After Propagating False Iraq Intel, NYT’s Michael Gordon Now Echoing Bush Claims On Iran
After Propagating False Iraq Intel, NYT’s Michael Gordon Now Echoing Bush Claims On Iran
In today’s New York Times, reporter Michael Gordon uncritically reports that the increase in “attacks on American forces” is the result of “a lethal type of roadside bomb said to be supplied by Iran.” Gordon’s piece relies primarily on a single military source, fails to challenge the source’s information, and casually dismisses contrary opinions as the complaints of “some critics of Bush.”
In February and July, Gordon similarly promoted Bush administration charges with a “one-sided array of anonymous sources charging the Iranian government with providing a particularly deadly variety of roadside bomb to Shia militias in Iraq.” Gordon’s reports were disputed by high-profile officials including Gen. Peter Pace.
Gordon engaged in similar exaggerated misreporting in the lead-up to war with Iraq. Along with disgraced New York Times reporter Judith Miller, Gordon relied on anonymous sources to propagate the administration’s case for war in a series of front-page exclusives.
In September 2002, for instance, the duo reported:
Iraq has stepped up its quest for nuclear weapons and has embarked on a worldwide hunt for materials to make an atomic bomb…Iraq has sought to buy thousands of specially designed aluminum tubes.
On the same day it was published, Vice President Dick Cheney cited the Times piece during his appearance on Meet the Press, and the White House featured its lead on its website.
Five days later, when Miller and Gordon “learned that the tubes were in fact a subject of debate among intelligence agencies” they buried their reservations “deep in an article on Page A13.”
During a discussion about Bush’s escalation strategy on the Charlie Rose Show, Gordon disclosed his personal agenda, saying: “I think it’s worth it one last effort for sure to try to get this right.” He was rebuked by the public editor of the New York Times for stepping “over the line.”
Like the administration’s architects of the Iraq war, Gordon’s past failures have not prevented him playing a leading role in shaping U.S. national security issues.
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Iraq...Iran...Ireland...whatever. They are all dangerous.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:10 pmCaption Contest:
And now a man with a tape recorder up his nose.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:13 pmFacts! we don't need no stinkin' facts!!
August 8th, 2007 at 5:13 pmIf they are furriners - then they are bad folks.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:14 pmThe world's scariest Proctologist.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:15 pmSo this is the guy Franken was talking about with his book Lies and the Lying Bastards who tell them...
August 8th, 2007 at 5:15 pmCaption Contest:
Our two mortal enemies are Iraq, Iran and North Korea
August 8th, 2007 at 5:16 pmOur three mortal enemies are Iraq, Iran, North Korea and the Taleban
Our four mortal enemies are Iraq, Iran, North Korea, the Taleban and our fanatical dedication to the Pope.....
As Bush once famously said "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice... you can't get fooled again" or something like that. Nice to know they are consistent with the message, even if it is false.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:16 pmCaption:
And furthermore, this toupee is not made of monkey fur!
August 8th, 2007 at 5:17 pmI guess Gilbert Gottfried can buy better drugs since he got the Aflac money.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:22 pmFu*king lying sack of crap.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:26 pmHe's a tool. He's no more a journalist than Dill Do'reilly.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:26 pmI remember hearing months ago that the shaped charges supposedly made in Iran are pretty low tech and could easily be manufactured in Iraq. The media tries to make it out like its some kind of diabolical super weapon that only the diabolical minds in Iran could concieve.
Now that Bush has decided to cide with the Sunni insurgency (the ones who kill Americans) by arming them, Shia Iran must be pumped up as the enemy.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:27 pm"said to be supplied by Iran"
I'll believe it when I see some hard evidence from an independent source. I no longer believe anything this government says without hard proof to back it up. You will notice that the article doesn't cite any proof, just says that they are "said to be" supplied by Iran. That's about the level of truth the kool-aid drinkers need. They'll be here in a couple of minutes and you can turn this thread over to them.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:28 pmBush Critics = Alkaida
August 8th, 2007 at 5:30 pm“said to be supplied by Iranâ€
Comment by bilbobaggins — August 8, 2007 @ 5:28 pm
Right on, you know he's lying when he won't attribute any responsibility for the quote. The man is scum.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:30 pmWhen oh when will these talking heads just explode? The public has to be getting tired of these "send your children to die in wars" Republicans.
The last two days, I worked at a Democratic booth at a local fair and several Republicans came over and requested voter registration forms. They wanted to switch parties... they no longer wanted to be Republicans. There was a great deal of activity around the Democratic booth and the Republican booth was quite... very little interest by the public in the Republican booth.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:31 pmBush Critics = Alkaida
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
The 'with or us against us' rhetoric is the refuge of a moral imbecile or a fascist. Which is it?
August 8th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
August 8th, 2007 at 5:32 pmThey LIED to get us into IRAQ. They are LYING to get us into IRAN.
.They LIED to get us into IRAQ. They are LYING to get us into IRAN.
..They LIED to get us into IRAQ. They are LYING to get us into IRAN.
...They LIED to get us into IRAQ. They are LYING to get us into IRAN.
....They LIED to get us into IRAQ. They are LYING to get us into IRAN.
The ‘with or us against us’ rhetoric is the refuge of a moral imbecile or a fascist. Which is it?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 8, 2007 @ 5:32 pm
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Neither.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:33 pmWill Michael Gordon lead the charge into Iran? Nah, he doesn't have the balls to go off to war. Maybe Mitt Romney's boys can sign up? Nah, they don't have the balls either.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:33 pmGregory: I don't get it... Are good Americans expected to blindly follow the Commander in Chief at all times?
If so, please tell me you were a loyal supporter of Bill Clinton before, during, and after his BJ scandal.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:34 pmComment by Vet — August 8, 2007 @ 5:34 pm
Let me rephrase.
alkaida = Bush critics
August 8th, 2007 at 5:35 pmLet me rephrase.
alkaida = Bush critics
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus
Why didn't you answer my question? Let me repeat: Are good Americans expected to blindly follow the Commander in Chief at all times? If so, please tell me you were a loyal supporter of Bill Clinton before, during, and after his BJ scandal.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:39 pmNeither.
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 5:33 pm
Then what are you? Explain how the world is divided into purely good guys and purely bad guys. How can you tell? Do I need to buy a white hat?
If so, please tell me you were a loyal supporter of Bill Clinton before, during, and after his BJ scandal.
Comment by Vet — August 8, 2007 @ 5:34 pm
Since Bin Laden declared war on the US in 1996, the US has been at war since then - no criticism of the 'commander-in-chief' should have been allowed..... /sarcasm off
August 8th, 2007 at 5:41 pmAre good Americans expected to blindly follow the Commander in Chief at all times?
August 8th, 2007 at 5:41 pm---------
No.
The ‘with or us against us’ rhetoric is the refuge of a moral imbecile or a fascist. Which is it?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 8, 2007 @ 5:32 pm
It's Mr PeePee. Do you really need to ask?
BOTH!
August 8th, 2007 at 5:43 pmNow that Bush has decided to cide with the Sunni insurgency (the ones who kill Americans) by arming them, Shia Iran must be pumped up as the enemy.
Is this the same Sunni's that have recently left Iraq's Parliament and that no longer participate in governing Iraq? Guess they didn't want to be seen as "puppets for the Bush" so they just packed up and left and took the weapons that we provided with them. And whatever happened to the millions and billions of missing American money that was sent to Iraq? Besides Halliburton and Blackwater and a few other loyal supporters of Busholini, the Iraq war is providing big bucks to American arms dealers.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:43 pmSo what? Even Chomsky claims that Iran is supplying Shia groups.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:44 pmThat does not mean the U.S. will attack Iran. All it will create is a pro-longed cold war between the U.S. and Iran. BTW, I wonder in whose hands received the recent unaccounted many U.S. weapons?
#26. So...YOU are the decider? You get to decide when supporting the President is a requirement of being a patriot?
I guess it only applies when a traitorous bimbo like Bush is in charge?
August 8th, 2007 at 5:44 pmAnd let me guess,
August 8th, 2007 at 5:44 pmThey have nuclear WMD's
Iran will greet us as liberators and,
Iranian oil will pay for the preemptive war.
*in whose hands are
August 8th, 2007 at 5:44 pmYay! We can make the Rapture happen and get rich doing it and blow shit up! Yay! Jeebus is shor gonna be proud of us! We figgurd out what he wanted us to do! Set the whole world on fire! Isn't Armaggeddon fun?
August 8th, 2007 at 5:45 pmComment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
Yeah...answer up, white boy!
Do their dirty work!
August 8th, 2007 at 5:45 pmIs this Bush's 'false flag'? Pretty Damn pathetic If I do say so.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:46 pmComment by Extremely Irate CompTroller_Version 2 — August 8, 2007 @ 5:45 pm
=
racist.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:47 pmI find it ironic in the extreme that the one country on earth to have used nuclear weapons on an entirely civilian target, not once, but TWICE, has the audacity to tell other countries that cannot have these weapons.
Iran is building a power plant. The US is propagating lies again.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:47 pmApparently pure terrorism is only for the US to perpetrate.
If you're white, get out there and fight!
August 8th, 2007 at 5:47 pmComment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 5:47 pm
There is no such thing as racism against whites. You are dreaming, gringo.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:49 pmseriously, anyone think Gordon could be a CIA agent? It's known that there are reporters at many newspapers who work for the agency and their editors have no idea.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:50 pmHere's a serious question, which might have been posed here before:
Now that the executive branch can pretty much spy on anyone at anytime, how long before they tap into the TP database, identify all us "enemies", and track us down by our e-mail and IP addresses?
And I'm not even a conspiracy nut!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 5:50 pm#26. So…YOU are the decider? You get to decide when supporting the President is a requirement of being a patriot?
I guess it only applies when a traitorous bimbo like Bush is in charge?
Comment by Vet — August 8, 2007 @ 5:44 pm
Sorry, but you will never get a straight answer out of this troll.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:54 pmHe lives for the attention.
#41...Bring 'em on. I love a good rendition.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:54 pmThat gosh darn librul media is at it again!
August 8th, 2007 at 5:55 pmNow that the executive branch can pretty much spy on anyone at anytime, how long before they tap into the TP database, identify all us “enemiesâ€, and track us down by our e-mail and IP addresses?
And I’m not even a conspiracy nut!!!
Comment by Vet — August 8, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
Me neither, but it's certainly conceivable, isn't it?
Hello, government spies!! **waving**
August 8th, 2007 at 5:57 pmAnd I’m not even a conspiracy nut!!!
Comment by Vet — August 8, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
What do you mean how long? Mr Poindexter, bring me that list again, please.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:57 pmThere is no such thing as racism against whites. You are dreaming, gringo.
Comment by Extremely Irate CompTroller_Version 2 — August 8, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
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Stop it.
Stop it, now!
August 8th, 2007 at 5:59 pm“said to be supplied by Iranâ€
Journamalism at it's best!
August 8th, 2007 at 6:00 pmThere most certainly is racism for whites, AND for colored people!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 6:00 pmThey're doing all the same stuff over again--getting all the same media shills to hype their "surge is working" and "Iran is attacking our troops" bullshit. Then, after Cheney and Rove feed this propaganda to the Times reporters, Cheney will go on Meet the Press and quote those same reporters to back up his story.
The right-wing pundits are also back to their time-tested maneuver of shouting over the 'liberal' that they're paired with on the talk shows. They let the other guy get his first two words out and then start a non-stop barrage of verbiage to make sure nobody can hear what he's saying.
I guess they're getting nostalgic in the White House. Is it time to trot out the phony WMD stories again?
August 8th, 2007 at 6:04 pmThere were no WMDs in Iraq. The intelligence was cherry picked to fit this wrong policy of nation building and spreading democracy unilaterally by force. The policy should have been made to fit the intelligence. Then they outed a patriotic covert CIA agent just to get back at her husband a vocal critic of the war who was right in his criticisms of the war. Contrary to what Bush and Cheney said there was no connection between 9-11 and Saddam.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:04 pmSome of the editors at the NYT are CIA, too. The NYT has been a big part of the CIA's Mighty Wurlitzer since the earliest days of the Cold War. The Washington Post too. I can't tell if the Sulzberger family are blackmailed, dupes, or fascists.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:06 pmIt's worth pointing out that U.S.-directed disinformation has been the largest part of the CIA's budget for decades.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:09 pmBush Critics = Alkaida
Comment by Gregory, a Nazi's anus — August 8, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
Wrong again, Gregory.
Bush Critics = Informed
August 8th, 2007 at 6:09 pmWith the Bush Administration and the Journalist giving out lies, every country in the World big/small should do what ever they can to protect their country. This White House is the real AXIS OF EVIL. Bush/Cheney will bomb any country at will and say Americans support them.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:12 pmWhat's really strange is how American stood up to stop the impeachment of President Clinton, but no one will step up to stop this Bush/Cheney Administration from letting our troops die everyday in the Iraq Civil War, not even when they destroyed the United States of America. Now every country knows Bush/Cheney are liars and steal oil. Yes we lost our Justice System once the role model to the world.
Oh goodie. Let's bomb Iran. WTF is wrong with this man? There's no money and no troops to bomb Iran.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:12 pmOh goodie. Let’s bomb Iran...
August 8th, 2007 at 6:13 pmComment by Jeannie See — August 8, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
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Agreed!
If there are CIA agents working at the NYT, then they better hope that they don't get "outed" by the Busholini followers otherwise they may get attacked on the streets of NY by angry citizens.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:13 pmI gotta say - this is some pretty silly, knee-jerk, if-I-don't-want-to-hear-it-then-it-must-be-wrong, hyper-reactionary stuff. Michael Gordon is hardly a pro-Bushy nor is he in league with the Administrations manifest f*ck-ups since the beginning of this illegal war. Mr. Volsky should read Gordon's book taht came out last year, "Cobra II," in order to truly understand Gordon's uniquely qualified opinions and views on war in Iraq and the - and to understand why he above most would have reasons to believe reports on specialty IEDs manufactured either in Iran or with Iran's money and observation. Gordon was indeed peripherally caught up with that whack-job Judith Miller in the past, but his writing and ethical standards have always been above reproach.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:16 pmComment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 6:13 pm
STFU Mr. Pee Pee.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:17 pmTerry the Turtle; moral imbecile = fascist.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:20 pmI love the smell of neocons being waterboarded in the morning.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:24 pmWonder how the families of the dead Palestinians feel when they look at the rockets that Isreal uses to bomb and kill them that have USA on them. But it's okay to supply weapons to Isreal and to Saudi Arabia. After all, they are protecting our oil and right now Iran is sitting on top of more of our oil and the Busholinis need to do something about that. You see, it's justification and it works for the Busholinis.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:24 pmWe will only have enough troops to fight a battle with Iran if we bring back the DRAFT. After all, Bush is also considering dropping bombs on Pakistan.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:26 pmThis guy is Judith in drag.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:28 pmWhat is interesting these days is that the media seems to be sold on pundits opinions (the ones that are well dressed and never put on a military uniform,never fought in any war ).
While we are in the sixth year in this war,media and television stations have no interest in the opinions of people who fought in this war; no opinions also of the people of Iraq,or people of the Middle East as a whole.
The media now only listens to these well dressed, well paid journalists and pundits who can tell us where we stand on this war...by simply make a trip to the Middle East or talk to someone,whom they call a 'source',but they will never reveal his or her's identitiy to us.
These pundits never were right on anything they have said so far about Iraq,before or after the war.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:36 pmSo why should we then believe a word of what they say?!!
Why do people think the Times is a liberal paper? This, O'Hanlon, Judy Miller...
August 8th, 2007 at 6:39 pmtarazan; these pundits should not be believed if any of them said "day is light and night is dark". Better look out the window for yourself. I am, however, more than willing to put on my old combat boots and put my foot up this fool's ass sideways.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:43 pmThe post should say that he was rebuked by the public editor ... four months later! Nowadays, the lie gets a hundred day headstart before the truth puts on its pants.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:45 pmIt is no surprise to anyone that our president and his administration have, yet again, hid the truth from the American public. Similar to the dealings with the war in Iraq, this administration has been feeding lies to the public. Now the war has proven to be a failure and is causing more violence, terror and poverty in this world. According to the Borgen Project, it only takes $19 billion dollars annually to eradicate world hunger and poverty. However, our government has already spent more than $450 billion dollars over this fruitless war in Iraq. It is time for the Bush Administration to take a real interest in the lives of the American people as well as people who are in desperate needs around the world. Stop the lies and stop poverty now.
August 8th, 2007 at 7:12 pmThank you for this good and quick work.
The question this raises for me is this: who is providing guiding editorial judgement at the NYT? Whoever it is seems to favor the neocons' mideast agenda.
August 8th, 2007 at 7:18 pmAnyone with a Bridgeport machine, or a cheap Chinese knock off of one could easily make hundreds of EFPs a day.
August 8th, 2007 at 7:27 pmJust a few short years ago Iraq was supposedly the world’s foremost manufacturer of every kind of WMD imaginable. But now we are supposed to believe that Iraq is so ass backwards that they do not have the capability to rudimentally mill a billet into a lid.
Slightly OT (A repost from the other day. Need to be aware of info)
Read this whole article. Unbelievable... er well not really. Just more of the same.
Weapons Given to Iraq Are Missing
GAO Estimates 30% of Arms Are Unaccounted For
By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, August 6, 2007; A01
"The Pentagon has lost track of about 190,000 AK-47 assault rifles and pistols given to Iraqi security forces in 2004 and 2005, according to a new government report, raising fears that some of those weapons have fallen into the hands of insurgents fighting U.S. forces in Iraq. Iraqi security forces were virtually nonexistent in early 2004, and in June of that year Petraeus was brought in to build them up."
Could this be the same General Patraeus that is going to report to us about the surge in September? Noooo! You're joking! BushCo put him in charge of the surge. That incompetent Patraeus of 2004 couldn't be the same guy as our competent General Patraeus that is in charge of the surge that is working so well now.
August 8th, 2007 at 7:29 pmWhy is it that the media thinks we should believe someone who has a track record of being incredibly wrong. We already know that the military believes 45 to 50% of the foreign insurgents in Iraq come through or from Saudi Arabia.
And why even respond to a poster who refers to the world's most formidable organization of terrorists as "Alkaida?" Come on, people. This guy's not here to argue a point - just to get on your nerves. He's got nothin'! Zilch! Nobody home!
August 8th, 2007 at 7:35 pmGordon = the NYT's new Judith Miller...
...in male drag...
August 8th, 2007 at 7:37 pmI thought the home made weapons were "said to be supplied by the Republican National Committee", or was it "by Venezuela"...yes, I heard it said down at my corner bar...where psudojournalists hang out, get drunk and make up stories for you to read in the morning Times.
August 8th, 2007 at 7:44 pmpeople still believe this putz?
August 8th, 2007 at 7:52 pmThe big military story in Iraq is that THE WAR HAS SERVED AS A PROVING GROUND FOR ENEMIES OF THE US, who have developed CHEAP POWERFUL MEANS OF KILLING US SOLDIERS and defeating our tactics. We saw some of the fruit of this effort in the deafeat of the Israli army in Lebanon 2006 -- a catastrophe Bush hailed as a "great victory", but which set chills through reality-oriented Israeli's.
Whether Gordon is a Bush aparatchnik or merely a tool, he serves to direct our attention away from the central problem. This kind of coverage was routine during the Vietnam war, when there were stories every week about a new kind of bomb, or a new operation with a sexy code name to clamp down on the VC -- and failure to report on the fundamental political failures that led to the war and our inevitable defeat.
The US army cannot stay in Iraq. The readiness of the Army is deteriorating, and we have serious problems elsewhere in the world. Furthermore, we are incurring a staggering debt that will cripple efforts in the defense dept and out of it.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:48 pmBill Keller executive editor of the NY TIMES is the scion of the (past) CEO of Chevron Oil. He is married to the heiress to the Gilby gin fortune. Before Keller was apointed editor he wrote a extremely glowing profile of W in the Times Sunday magazine comparing W in greatness (in his opinion) to Ronald Reagan. Keller admits he was a pro Iraq invasion hawk. He is a neo-con and has probably spent more time at the white house in private meetings with the president than has been previously reported.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:11 pmLETTER TO THE EDITOR
I might consider reading your paper if you didn't insist on employing clowns and shills like this guy.
Have a nice day.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:11 pmDo you suppose that it's just a coincidence that this article came out on a day when Maliki was on a diplomatic visit to Iran?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:41 pmWe look downright silly complaining about Iran's prowess as a weapon maker. Iran is a second or third rate power. Our European allies as well as China and Russia have much more sophisticated technology and if Iran's IED's using technology that dates back 50 years can destroy our best tanks, imagine what a real technological power could do to our armored vehicles. We not spotlighting their strength, we are spotlighting our weakness. That's never a good idea in hostile world environment.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:50 pmThe last figure published for Americans killed by Iranian made IEDs was 170 in February 2007. Last month CNN’s Barbara Starr reported that 80% of the American’s killed in Iraq are killed by IEDs.
This month they tried a new statistic saying that 1/3 of the 79 Americans killed in July were killed by Iranian IEDs. Let's call that number 27. Add that to 170 and that's 197.
If IEDs have killed 80% of Americans killed in Iraq, and less than 200 were killed by Iranian made IEDs, that means that over 2700 Americans were killed by IEDs of other origins. Statistically the treat from Iranian IEDs is being well overplayed. If all Iranian IEDs were eliminated, IEDs from other sources would still pose the most serious threat to American armor.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:10 amComment by Carmikl — August 9, 2007 @ 12:10 am
They will say anything to justify another preemptive invasion. Cheney and Bush know Congress will not give authorization so they will try to use the 2002 IWR to start a war with Iran. That would be an impeachable offense. They have even tried to tie Iran with the Taliban. The Iranians are Persians the Taliban are Sunnis. Also when the Afghanistan war started the Iranians were instrumental in helping us set up the Karzai government they were key to negotiations. Why would they align themselves with the Taliban now? It doesn't make any sense. Also the Iranian government is still about 10 years away from nuclear capability.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:31 amThis ass bastard has always sounded to me as a male version of Judy Miller.
August 9th, 2007 at 1:25 amThe Bush cabal, on the wishes of their masters, the Federal Reserve Board, will do whatever necessary to false flag, lie, cheat, and deceive to find a pretext to attack Iran. The Iranian government wants nuclear power for energy, not weaponry. But of course Bush and the baddies say they're lying, and that a nuclear Iran is a threat to Israel and the other nations in the Middle East. The Iranians are allowed to enrich fuel rods for nuclear energy under the agreement they and 189 other countries signed on to, the Nuclear Non- Proliferation Treaty. If I were running things in Iran I would want nuclear weapons so the mass murder disguised as war happening in non-nuclear Iraq, would no way happen in Iran. As Smedley Butler said, "War is a racket. Always has been."
August 9th, 2007 at 1:33 amExplosively Formed Projectiles aka Shaped Charges are at least 50 year old technology that is used extensively in what industry? That's right the oil industry.
Iraq is awash with shaped charges and people that know how to use them. Iraq needs
no help at all from Iran with this technology.
Just another aluminum-tube-and-WMD fabricated piece of war mongering propaganda.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:07 amWhat a dufus.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:34 amWhy is Michael Gordon still at the times?
August 9th, 2007 at 8:44 amTo stop bush, the treasonous media must be removed. Its always been the sold out media.
The problem we have, the media is not A FREE MEDIA. We are suppose to have a free press.
I have suggested many times that protesting at all news headquarters would be more effective.
Expose the traitors one name at a time.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:39 amAnyone hear about the 190,000 ak-47s the US military "lost" in Iraq a few years back??????
They're who is arming the anti-occupation "insurgents" in Iraq, not Iran.
Are you sorry for the lies you wrote about Iraq, Michael Gordon?
August 9th, 2007 at 12:44 pmHe's Judith Miller with a dick.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:38 pm