Comments on: AT&T censors Pearl Jam’s criticism of Bush. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:29:39 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Disgusted By Ignorance http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-4001809 Disgusted By Ignorance Sat, 11 Aug 2007 04:28:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-4001809 I think it is tragic when bands like Pearl Jam choose to make comments on world issues of which they are clearly ignorant. Pearl Jam can takes its egotistical, self-absorbed rantings elsewhere, maybe they could re-locate to war-torn Iraq - maybe that might provide them with a little bit of humility. As a former fan of their music (before they got preachy and repulsive), I happily will never support them again! I think it is tragic when bands like Pearl Jam choose to make comments on world issues of which they are clearly ignorant. Pearl Jam can takes its egotistical, self-absorbed rantings elsewhere, maybe they could re-locate to war-torn Iraq – maybe that might provide them with a little bit of humility. As a former fan of their music (before they got preachy and repulsive), I happily will never support them again!

]]> By: RixStar http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-4001518 RixStar Sat, 11 Aug 2007 01:38:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-4001518 Speaking of what "at&t" is really up to, the company left off the last part of their slogan, which I'll supply here: "Your world delivered... to the NSA" Speaking of what “at&t” is really up to, the company left off the last part of their slogan, which I’ll supply here:
“Your world delivered… to the NSA”

]]> By: Rob Dubinski http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3999251 Rob Dubinski Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:55:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3999251 The media consolidation epidemic is out of control. "We The People" can't allow AT&T to step into a totalitarian role as the gatekeeper of the Internet. This issue strikes at the very heart of the 1st Amendment. Join the fight w/ SaveTheInternet.com and check out my blog for more: http://robdubinski.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/att-censors-pearl-jam-aka-%e2%80%9ca-free-market-of-ideas%e2%80%9d/ RD http://robdubinski.wordpress.com The media consolidation epidemic is out of control. “We The People” can’t allow AT&T to step into a totalitarian role as the gatekeeper of the Internet. This issue strikes at the very heart of the 1st Amendment. Join the fight w/ SaveTheInternet.com and check out my blog for more:

http://robdubinski.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/att-censors-pearl-jam-aka-%e2%80%9ca-free-market-of-ideas%e2%80%9d/

RD
http://robdubinski.wordpress.com

]]> By: Probus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3999000 Probus Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:53:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3999000 The issue here is free speech. Obviously someone doesn't like criticism of Bush. This is a violation of our First Amendment. The issue here is free speech. Obviously someone doesn’t like criticism of Bush. This is a violation of our First Amendment.

]]> By: WC http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997601 WC Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:11:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997601 AT&T sponsored the webcast, they can do whatever they want. Comment by Ringo — August 9, 2007 @ 12:05 pm ----------- AT&T disagrees. Check their Blue Room web site now, dude. AT&T sponsored the webcast, they can do whatever they want.

Comment by Ringo — August 9, 2007 @ 12:05 pm

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AT&T disagrees. Check their Blue Room web site now, dude.

]]> By: Probus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997552 Probus Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:00:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997552 AT & T should not have engaged in censorship. To do so goes against everything America stands for. AT & T should not have engaged in censorship. To do so goes against everything America stands for.

]]> By: SGT Higgins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997448 SGT Higgins Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:37:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997448 And yes, my access to documents from the FOIA have been denied, one document took two years to get with NO explanation. --- Leagal help is available. (that question was a c & p from your link, p.s. legal help is available) I totally know government in my small town and in Washington will never be utopia, but sure as hell it has to be better than what we got going on now. ----- People have been saying that for years, "Can't get any worse".... wanna bet? So, why not a 3rd party, you would be surprised how many of us in taxpayer land are thirsting for a new voice. --- Nah, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Now getting a 3rd party woth enough $$ and clout to actually give the other 2 a run fortheir money, that'll take some doing. Comment by texaslady And yes, my access to documents from the FOIA have been denied, one document took two years to get with NO explanation. — Leagal help is available. (that question was a c & p from your link, p.s. legal help is available)

I totally know government in my small town and in Washington will never be utopia, but sure as hell it has to be better than what we got going on now. —– People have been saying that for years, “Can’t get any worse”…. wanna bet?

So, why not a 3rd party, you would be surprised how many of us in taxpayer land are thirsting for a new voice. — Nah, I wouldn’t be surprised at all. Now getting a 3rd party woth enough $$ and clout to actually give the other 2 a run fortheir money, that’ll take some doing.

Comment by texaslady

]]> By: texaslady http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997363 texaslady Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:14:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997363 No Higgins I am dead serious I want a new party. I think we need term limits before our politicians get entrenched with the "I take care of you, you take care of me attitude." And yes, my access to documents from the FOIA have been denied, one document took two years to get with NO explanation. Civil rights, well I am female and was a Yankee many years ago, and boy did I learn really fast "if you ain't from around here, you ain't gonna get the job." So I built my own business and hired over 40 year old females. I totally know government in my small town and in Washington will never be utopia, but sure as hell it has to be better than what we got going on now. So, why not a 3rd party, you would be surprised how many of us in taxpayer land are thirsting for a new voice. No Higgins I am dead serious I want a new party. I think we need term limits before our politicians get entrenched with the “I take care of you, you take care of me attitude.”

And yes, my access to documents from the FOIA have been denied, one document took two years to get with NO explanation.

Civil rights, well I am female and was a Yankee many years ago, and boy did I learn really fast “if you ain’t from around here, you ain’t gonna get the job.” So I built my own business and hired over 40 year old females.

I totally know government in my small town and in Washington will never be utopia, but sure as hell it has to be better than what we got going on now.

So, why not a 3rd party, you would be surprised how many of us in taxpayer land are thirsting for a new voice.

]]> By: texaslady http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997347 texaslady Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:06:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997347 118 - I wonder if you have suffered any loss of doing something you were good at and love doing. This cannot be measured but is just as important. This comment was a 1 day news hit but our wonderful conservatives went on and on to shape public opinion. Do I think opinion can be shaded ? Of course, when so many people hear only what is on while driving to and from work. And did they get the whole story, who knows. My point is there are many ways to censor people and is that what America is about? I sure don't agree with alot that is going on now but I want to hear it so I can make up my own mind. 118 – I wonder if you have suffered any loss of doing something you were good at and love doing. This cannot be measured but is just as important. This comment was a 1 day news hit but our wonderful conservatives went on and on to shape public opinion.

Do I think opinion can be shaded ? Of course, when so many people hear only what is on while driving to and from work. And did they get the whole story, who knows.

My point is there are many ways to censor people and is that what America is about? I sure don’t agree with alot that is going on now but I want to hear it so I can make up my own mind.

]]> By: SGT Higgins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997346 SGT Higgins Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:06:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997346 but I guess that would be difficult for you. --- what? Why would that be difficult? Have my library privileges been revoked under FISA? But Higgins you are just unhappy with both parties as your comments show…----- True enough, more unhappy with politicians in general though. Buthey, what do I know, I'm just a spewer of rhetoric. so start a new one let me know your policy plan who knows I might vote for you. ---- that would Rule! vote for me, huh? How's about bein; my runnin' mate? I sure wish we had a 3rd party to choose from. -- sarcasm? hard to tell. Comment by texaslady Has your acccess to public records been denied? Have your civil rights been denied? but I guess that would be difficult for you. — what? Why would that be difficult? Have my library privileges been revoked under FISA?

But Higgins you are just unhappy with both parties as your comments show…—– True enough, more unhappy with politicians in general though. Buthey, what do I know, I’m just a spewer of rhetoric.
so start a new one let me know your policy plan who knows I might vote for you. —- that would Rule! vote for me, huh? How’s about bein; my runnin’ mate?
I sure wish we had a 3rd party to choose from. — sarcasm? hard to tell.

Comment by texaslady
Has your acccess to public records been denied?

Have your civil rights been denied?

]]> By: crocchoda http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997311 crocchoda Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:57:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997311 #118: besides income, what did the dixie chicks lose? and don't you think free speech includes the right for consumers to not purchase what they don't agree with? #118:

besides income, what did the dixie chicks lose?

and don’t you think free speech includes the right for consumers to not purchase what they don’t agree with?

]]> By: texaslady http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997297 texaslady Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:53:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997297 Higgins start with www.opengovernment.org and gee you need a library card for reading material but I guess that would be difficult for you. But Higgins you are just unhappy with both parties as your comments show...so start a new one let me know your policy plan who knows I might vote for you. I sure wish we had a 3rd party to choose from. Higgins start with http://www.opengovernment.org and gee you need a library card for reading material but I guess that would be difficult for you.

But Higgins you are just unhappy with both parties as your comments show…so start a new one let me know your policy plan who knows I might vote for you. I sure wish we had a 3rd party to choose from.

]]> By: SGT Higgins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997267 SGT Higgins Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:43:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997267 I can provide names and dates. Comment by texaslady You offered. Go ahead....names and dates. A simple link will suffice. Oh and make it from a reputable news source, not your little brother's blog. K? I can provide names and dates.

Comment by texaslady

You offered. Go ahead….names and dates. A simple link will suffice. Oh and make it from a reputable news source, not your little brother’s blog. K?

]]> By: texaslady http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997239 texaslady Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:38:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997239 Higgins - wow still waiting to be fed information...do your own research just as I did. Higgins – wow still waiting to be fed information…do your own research just as I did.

]]> By: Uroboros http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997203 Uroboros Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:32:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997203 Here's me take: http://eatandchew.blogspot.com/ Here’s me take:

http://eatandchew.blogspot.com/

]]> By: SGT Higgins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997178 SGT Higgins Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:29:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997178 Higgins Censorship begats total control of government to those in power. ---- and right now it's a republican, 2 more years it'll be a dem. Censorship means you had better agree with me or you will not get those NO BID contracts in Iraq or New Orleans. --- and pray tell, who will the no-bid contracts be given to when Hillary is in office? Censorship is keeping the honeymoon deals away from public knowledge. ---- Hasn't worked so well, you managed to find out. Censorship is not letting the general public know how much of America’s roads, business’s are owned by foreign corporations. -------- Gosh, what's the percentage? Censorship is keeping the public in the dark when your Ports are being bought by Dubai, ---- Again, you managed to find out, so that kinda argues against that info being unavailable....or are you into espionage of some sort? Can’t you see the connection? ---- between your synapses? I don't see any, no. Comment by texaslady Higgins Censorship begats total control of government to those in power. —- and right now it’s a republican, 2 more years it’ll be a dem.
Censorship means you had better agree with me or you will not get those NO BID contracts in Iraq or New Orleans. — and pray tell, who will the no-bid contracts be given to when Hillary is in office?

Censorship is keeping the honeymoon deals away from public knowledge. —- Hasn’t worked so well, you managed to find out.

Censorship is not letting the general public know how much of America’s roads, business’s are owned by foreign corporations. ——– Gosh, what’s the percentage?

Censorship is keeping the public in the dark when your Ports are being bought by Dubai, —- Again, you managed to find out, so that kinda argues against that info being unavailable….or are you into espionage of some sort?

Can’t you see the connection? —- between your synapses? I don’t see any, no.

Comment by texaslady

]]> By: texaslady http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997060 texaslady Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:08:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997060 115 - Uhmmmm not quite, DC lost more than a little income for several years, not even yet have they gotten their momentum back. And I am not a country music fan, just a fan of free speech. 115 – Uhmmmm not quite, DC lost more than a little income for several years, not even yet have they gotten their momentum back.
And I am not a country music fan, just a fan of free speech.

]]> By: Habalaarz http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997036 Habalaarz Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:03:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997036 <blockquote>When Natalie Maines leaves this world, maybe she won’t be a star, and maybe her career won’t be as stellar as if she hadn’t spoken up. But when she leaves, she’ll leave with something intact that those who burned her CD’s and threatened those who dared to play them, will never have. Her soul, her humanity, and a good, clean conscience. Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 9, 2007 @ 2:24 pm</blockquote> HEyOO!!! +!-!+!-!+ Too funny, bartles!

When Natalie Maines leaves this world, maybe she won’t be a star, and maybe her career won’t be as stellar as if she hadn’t spoken up.

But when she leaves, she’ll leave with something intact that those who burned her CD’s and threatened those who dared to play them, will never have.

Her soul, her humanity, and a good, clean conscience.

Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 9, 2007 @ 2:24 pm

HEyOO!!!
+!-!+!-!+

Too funny, bartles!

]]> By: texaslady http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997027 texaslady Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:01:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997027 Higgins - don't believe what I say just use your google and check my comments. Higgins – don’t believe what I say just use your google and check my comments.

]]> By: crocchoda http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/comment-page-3/#comment-3997011 crocchoda Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:59:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/att-censors-pearl-jams-criticism-of-bush/#comment-3997011 #108: ain't the free market grand? #107: if i recall correctly, when she made her statements in the UK, we were on the verge of the iraq invasion. <em>at that time</em>, the impending invasion enjoyed a good deal of popular support. saying she was embarrassed of her (<em>at that time</em>) popular president alienated the DC from their core audience (who tended to support the president and the invasion at even higher rates than the national average). as a result, their popularity naturally declined. fast forward 3 years and the circumstances have changed dramatically. the war is wildly unpopular as is the president. combine that with the short memory of consumers (and an excellent musical effort, i might add) and the Dixie Chicks once again enjoyed financial success. what's great about the story, for me at least, is that at no time were any of the dixie chicks haled before an official to answer for their criticism. at no time were they whisked away to a gulag. their right to express their criticism was protected. i love america. #108:

ain’t the free market grand?

#107:

if i recall correctly, when she made her statements in the UK, we were on the verge of the iraq invasion. at that time, the impending invasion enjoyed a good deal of popular support. saying she was embarrassed of her (at that time) popular president alienated the DC from their core audience (who tended to support the president and the invasion at even higher rates than the national average). as a result, their popularity naturally declined.

fast forward 3 years and the circumstances have changed dramatically. the war is wildly unpopular as is the president. combine that with the short memory of consumers (and an excellent musical effort, i might add) and the Dixie Chicks once again enjoyed financial success.

what’s great about the story, for me at least, is that at no time were any of the dixie chicks haled before an official to answer for their criticism. at no time were they whisked away to a gulag. their right to express their criticism was protected.

i love america.

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