Comments on: O’Hanlon/Pollack Rebuffed By Travel Companion Cordesman: ‘I Did Not See Any Dramatic Change’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:11:53 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4007004 rockyroad Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:11:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-4007004 KARL ROVE HAS SUBMITTED HIS RESIGNATION. KARL ROVE HAS SUBMITTED HIS RESIGNATION.

]]> By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4000856 rockyroad Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:12:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-4000856 If only Laura would divorce him and write a tell-all on the peanut. If only Laura would divorce him and write a tell-all on the peanut.

]]> By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4000839 rockyroad Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:08:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-4000839 Bush in his promdrss feels no need to court anyone. He's king and queen. . . .prefers to dance solo. 9-11 two-step. Bush in his promdrss feels no need to court anyone. He’s king and queen. . . .prefers to dance solo.

9-11 two-step.

]]> By: brizzle http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4000164 brizzle Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:34:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-4000164 Is our government ever planning to send diplomats to talk with other countries about Iraq? Are we going to ask the UN to jump in? Why aren't we talking to Turkey or Saudi Arabia or Kuwait? Does the Bush white house have any options beyond the use of force??? We're in Iraq to build a massive US Embassy and to construct a slick underground oil pipeline around Iran. Our government is being run by a Texas Oil Man...what did you expect would happen when we invaded? The USA will have armed forces in Iraq for the next 25 years... Is our government ever planning to send diplomats to talk with other countries about Iraq? Are we going to ask the UN to jump in? Why aren’t we talking to Turkey or Saudi Arabia or Kuwait? Does the Bush white house have any options beyond the use of force???

We’re in Iraq to build a massive US Embassy and to construct a slick underground oil pipeline around Iran. Our government is being run by a Texas Oil Man…what did you expect would happen when we invaded?

The USA will have armed forces in Iraq for the next 25 years…

]]> By: Gadianton http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3999830 Gadianton Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:31:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3999830 Fraud Thompson '08 "Another GOP Disaster" Fraud Thompson ‘08
“Another GOP Disaster”

]]> By: Probus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3999014 Probus Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:03:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3999014 We can no longer win militarily in Iraq. Maliki is incapable of making political progress in Iraq. The surge was supposed to give Maliki enough room to make political concessions. He has not done this. Thus the surge has failed. No number of troops can ensure that political progress will be made. The Joint Chiefs of Staff did not support this surge because they knew it would fail, it has. We can no longer win militarily in Iraq. Maliki is incapable of making political progress in Iraq. The surge was supposed to give Maliki enough room to make political concessions. He has not done this. Thus the surge has failed. No number of troops can ensure that political progress will be made. The Joint Chiefs of Staff did not support this surge because they knew it would fail, it has.

]]> By: The Chocolate asaNus of Christ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3999007 The Chocolate asaNus of Christ Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:12:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3999007 >All three say that the surge worked militarily quote for cordsmen please? ... please note... "signs it might possbly succeed" is not equal to sucess >All three say that the surge worked militarily

quote for cordsmen please? … please note… “signs it might possbly succeed” is not equal to sucess

]]> By: p http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3999003 p Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:43:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3999003 Probus, You make some of the dumbest assertions I have ever heard. Cordesman, O'Hanlon, and Pollack say the exact same thing! All three say that the surge worked militarily and that now it is up to the Iraqis to come through politically. Did you read any of the articles, or are you just skimming through the lies that TP puts in the headlines? Probus,

You make some of the dumbest assertions I have ever heard.

Cordesman, O’Hanlon, and Pollack say the exact same thing! All three say that the surge worked militarily and that now it is up to the Iraqis to come through politically.

Did you read any of the articles, or are you just skimming through the lies that TP puts in the headlines?

]]> By: Probus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3998999 Probus Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:50:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3998999 Cordesman gains credibility in his honest assessment while O'Hanlon and Pollack's assessments are nothing more than neo-conservative fabrications that have nothing to do with the reality on the ground. Cordesman gains credibility in his honest assessment while O’Hanlon and Pollack’s assessments are nothing more than neo-conservative fabrications that have nothing to do with the reality on the ground.

]]> By: daveinboca http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3998874 daveinboca Fri, 10 Aug 2007 04:58:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3998874 Cordesman is drawing a line between CSIS and Brookings. I wouldn't waste too much mental activity trying to conjugate the differences between O'Hanlon/Pollack & Cordesman. Cordesman is drawing a line between CSIS and Brookings. I wouldn’t waste too much mental activity trying to conjugate the differences between O’Hanlon/Pollack & Cordesman.

]]> By: The Shadow http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3998749 The Shadow Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:31:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3998749 It depends of what the meaning of "Progress" is! It depends of what the meaning of “Progress” is!

]]> By: Frank http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3998736 Frank Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:25:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3998736 O'Hanlon's "soft-partition" is really no different from the Gelb-Biden Plan. here's a link to the WSJ piece they wrote in the Fall proposing a federalized Iraq (http://tinyurl.com/2ygdpd). O’Hanlon’s “soft-partition” is really no different from the Gelb-Biden Plan. here’s a link to the WSJ piece they wrote in the Fall proposing a federalized Iraq (http://tinyurl.com/2ygdpd).

]]> By: Matthew Chamberlin http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3998521 Matthew Chamberlin Fri, 10 Aug 2007 02:08:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3998521 It was not an EDITORIAL they wrote, it was an Op-Ed piece, emphasis on the "op." Editorials are on the facing page and come from the Times' own editors. Kind of a critical difference. It was not an EDITORIAL they wrote, it was an Op-Ed piece, emphasis on the “op.” Editorials are on the facing page and come from the Times’ own editors. Kind of a critical difference.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3998328 bilbobaggins Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:53:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3998328 <em>"I like poking him with a stick! Comment by Marcus Aurelius "</em> Why, so you can muck up another thread to the point where it is not worth our time to try to weed through all the crap to find some honest discourse? What does it accomplish? Does it make you feel important? Does it make you feel witty and intelligent? All it does is take you down to their level. “I like poking him with a stick!
Comment by Marcus Aurelius “

Why, so you can muck up another thread to the point where it is not worth our time to try to weed through all the crap to find some honest discourse?

What does it accomplish? Does it make you feel important? Does it make you feel witty and intelligent? All it does is take you down to their level.

]]> By: Marcus Aurelius http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3998320 Marcus Aurelius Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:50:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3998320 <blockquote>Troll Score: Peter Abelard 20 everyone else 74. Looks like he is going to win again. Why do you keep feeding this troll. Do you really think that you are going to change his mind? He has no mind to change! Comment by bilbobaggins — August 9, 2007 @ 8:48 pm</blockquote> I like poking him with a stick!

Troll Score: Peter Abelard 20 everyone else 74. Looks like he is going to win again. Why do you keep feeding this troll. Do you really think that you are going to change his mind? He has no mind to change!

Comment by bilbobaggins — August 9, 2007 @ 8:48 pm

I like poking him with a stick!

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3998309 bilbobaggins Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:48:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3998309 Troll Score: Peter Abelard 20 everyone else 74. Looks like he is going to win again. Why do you keep feeding this troll. Do you really think that you are going to change his mind? He has no mind to change! Troll Score: Peter Abelard 20 everyone else 74. Looks like he is going to win again. Why do you keep feeding this troll. Do you really think that you are going to change his mind? He has no mind to change!

]]> By: L http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3998190 L Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:01:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3998190 <strong>Progress?</strong> We don't need no <em>stinkin' progress.</em>... Check out this <a href="http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Iraqi woman's blog</a> on the reality of day to day life in Baghdad/Iraq. Progress?

We don’t need no stinkin’ progress.…

Check out this Iraqi woman’s blog on the reality of day to day life in Baghdad/Iraq.

]]> By: CP KRUNT http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3998115 CP KRUNT Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:38:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3998115 TP Satyam didn't realize that Cordesman has also SLAMMED CAP/Larry Korb's Strategic Reset as being absurd and childish. Cordesman: The Tenuous Case for Strategic Patience in Iraq "The idea that the US can some how simply stand aside and deal with Al Qa’ida or the Sadr militia by relying largely on air power and Special Forces is equally absurd. The US could not target, it could not cover the country, it could not secure its bases, and it would lack the force numbers to act decisively without relying on Iraqi forces. Such concepts are little more than childish in practical military terms." Well, Larry Korb did have to admit in recent congressional testimony that he was "not a military expert". TP Satyam didn’t realize that Cordesman has also SLAMMED CAP/Larry Korb’s Strategic Reset as being absurd and childish.

Cordesman: The Tenuous Case for Strategic Patience in Iraq

“The idea that the US can some how simply stand aside and deal with Al Qa’ida or the Sadr militia by relying largely on air power and Special Forces is equally absurd. The US could not target, it could not cover the country, it could not secure its bases, and it would lack the force numbers to act decisively without relying on Iraqi forces. Such concepts are little more than childish in practical military terms.”

Well, Larry Korb did have to admit in recent congressional testimony that he was “not a military expert”.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3998113 big papa Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:38:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3998113 Guess who's LYING? Guess who’s LYING?

]]> By: Arthur C. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-3997888 Arthur C. Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:38:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/cordesman-iraq/#comment-3997888 <em>#66 - No there was not the marching that was done to end Vietnam. I have been through both.</em> So was I. And I also remember vividly how street protests subsided quickly after the draft was eliminated in 1972. No draft = no riots in the streets. It's that simple. If the US still had compulsory military service, Bush would've been impeached already. #66 – No there was not the marching that was done to end Vietnam. I have been through both.

So was I. And I also remember vividly how street protests subsided quickly after the draft was eliminated in 1972. No draft = no riots in the streets. It’s that simple. If the US still had compulsory military service, Bush would’ve been impeached already.

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