Iraqis united in opposition to foreign control over oil.
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Iraqis united in opposition to foreign control over oil.
Alternet reports, “Despite the ethnic bloodshed in Iraq, majorities of Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds are united in their disapproval of the proposed oil laws that Washington and Big Oil are pushing.” A recent poll of all Iraqi ethnic and sectarian groups across the political spectrum oppose the principles enshrined in the laws. “Considering the multiethnic bloodbath we’ve witnessed over the past four years, it’s an impressive display of Iraqi solidarity,” writes Joshua Holland.
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Wow, political unity! Go Iraqi gummint!!
August 9th, 2007 at 10:22 pmFcuk ‘em!
That’s our oil now!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 10:22 pmYep they’re united while our other party is a bunch of stoopied f**Ks.
Dumbass Republicans to “Purple Thumb” the Iowa Straw Poll.
Iowa on a Saturday afternoon just like Baghdad under fire.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:23 pmAnyone seen McCain’s newest poll numbers? He’s polling lower than dysentery…
August 9th, 2007 at 10:29 pmPoetic justice..
August 9th, 2007 at 10:29 pmOld News TP (You should read your comments more, this was brought up I think two days ago by Toby)
But anyway I never had any doubt, America can kiss that oil goodbye!
GOOD, now can we get off imported oil from terrorist nations, build solar, and wind, and other FREE power to power the nation and our future electric cars?
The Neocons are going down!
August 9th, 2007 at 10:31 pmI’m a raving lunatic!
August 9th, 2007 at 10:31 pmWould Alaskans suddenly give up their oil if they were occupied by a foreign power? I SAY….NO!!!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 10:42 pmWell who want want their OIL wealth stolen anyways? Iraqis know that Bush wants to steal their petroleum reserves.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:42 pmThe Iraqis are united…it’s the worst-case scenario for BushCo.
Prepare for another “terrorist” mosque-bombing in 3…2…1…
August 9th, 2007 at 10:43 pmPeter Abelard is gone. TITVS LIVIVS is Mr. P’s new name.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:45 pmThe c.a.f.e. standards need to be raised & a simple step towards non-electric gadgets wherever feasible would rapidly free us from dependency on oil & coal. There are tailgate-sized propane powered freezers available & full sized refrigerators that are kerosene or propane powered; I’m sure NYC restaurants-with that recent blackout, would have appreciated a leader who pressured them to have off-grid refrigerators & stoves. There is alot more….hand-cranked blenders & coffee grinders, large 18th Century style windows to let in more natural light. Small things do add up, if you’ve ever been without electricity you quickly realize how so much of modern life is electrified, it’s the same with water-dishwashers, clothes washers, washing your hands, your dog, your children.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:46 pmPost 9 should say : Who would want their Oil wealth stolen anyways? Not sure how ‘want want” got in there twice.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:46 pmThe fact of the matter is, oil is the only resource the Iraqis have, and if they are going to rebuild their economic infrastructure they have to get things moving. If they reject every law, they will just sit on the oil…
pennyless.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:47 pmHey Pee,
August 9th, 2007 at 10:48 pmDo you still think that there are certain Americans that are too inept to be allowed to have the right to vote? Or has that opinion changed?
“Iraqis united in opposition to foreign control over oil”
Define control. No where in the PSAs does Iraq agree to hand ownership of their oil fields to foreign companies or states.
The Iraq Oil Ministry supports the model just as it has been used since the 60’s. Obviously someone at TP doesn’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:48 pmDo you still think that there are certain Americans that are too inept to be allowed to have the right to vote?
——
Of course I do.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:49 pmMedusa > I just looked at a house for sale in North Carolina that had a propane generator. The house had full backup power supply and wood burning stoves for heat too. Had its own well water and emergency underground bunker too.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:49 pmComment by steed — August 9, 2007 @ 10:48 pm
Please link your accompanying facts….thanks a bunch.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:50 pmOf course I do.
Comment by Pee
Fascist.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:52 pmOf course I do.
Comment by Pee
Fascist.
Comment by dlet — August 9, 2007 @ 10:52 pm
Idiot.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:52 pmOf course I do.
Comment by Pee
Fascist.
Comment by dlet — August 9, 2007 @ 10:52 pm
Idiot.
Comment by Pee
Doo-doo head
August 9th, 2007 at 10:53 pmMy legions! Give me back my Legions!
Look it up.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:53 pmLook it up.
Comment by Ceasar Augustus — August 9, 2007 @ 10:53 pm
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Why? We all know the Gauls were wrong.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:55 pmWhy? We all know the Gauls were wrong.
Comment by GAIVS IVLIVS CAESAR OCTAVIANVS
About what?
August 9th, 2007 at 10:57 pmI am soooooooooooo gay – my ass hurst just thinking about it.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:57 pmOOPS!! Now we will have to invade Iraq and take OUR f@cking oil! That will show them! How dare them! The ingrates!
And we will knock out their electricity and their water while we are at it.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:59 pmDefine control. No where in the PSAs does Iraq agree to hand ownership of their oil fields to foreign companies or states.
The Iraq Oil Ministry supports the model just as it has been used since the 60’s. Obviously someone at TP doesn’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
Comment by steed — August 9, 2007 @ 10:48 pm
Control – Whoever gets to sell the oil!
As in your comment, Iraq will not give ownership to the fields, but it’s the oil under the fields that worth money. And do you think wants that money?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:01 pmAbout what?
Comment by dlet — August 9, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
For taking my legions, of course.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:01 pmIf they reject every law, they will just sit on the oil…
pennyless.
Comment by GAIVS IVLIVS CAESAR OCTAVIANVS — August 9, 2007 @ 10:47 pm
Ahh sorry dude, the oil is coming out regardless of what law is presiding. If they MAKE THEIR OWN LAW then they can control the selling of it. If they FOLLOW BUSH’S LAW then they won’t have control. Is as F*cking simple as that.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:04 pmAny youn gays in here – my nephew Caligula cut me off. That crazy little maniac.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:04 pmLook where the Romans are today.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:08 pmAll I have to say is thank Jebus that Bush made it to the bridge collapse after everyone that was missing was considered dead. I mean those in the mine collapse that are breating hard surely must appreciate that. What leadership. But the Frenchy Sarchozistzy takes full attention now. He’s a leaderist…type.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:09 pmLook where the Romans are today.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
AHHHH, making exploding candles, maybe?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:10 pmComment by Marcus Aurelius — August 9, 2007 @ 11:08 pm
If it wasn’t for pussy Emperors like YOU, the Romans wouldn’t have been infected with liberalism!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 11:10 pmIt’s more like 60 governments in 40 years.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:11 pmHas anyone been to Italy or Greece lately….lots of ruins and heat. Nice vacation.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:12 pmThe fact of the matter is, oil is the only resource the Iraqis have, and if they are going to rebuild their economic infrastructure they have to get things moving. If they reject every law, they will just sit on the oil…
pennyless.
Comment by GAIVS IVLIVS CAESAR OCTAVIANVS — August 9, 2007 @ 10:47 pm
What the Iraqis should do is open up a bidding process to all countries. The Iraqis can then choose the best deal for themselves. And the Iraqis should not be lockdown in any long term agreements.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:12 pmAnd the likes of you destroyed the Republic – just as you would like to see happen to this Republic. Plus, you visit the baths too often, and the people are talking about your trysts with young boys. Acting under the name Republican does not a defender of the Republic make.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:15 pmWhat the Iraqis should do is open up a bidding process to all countries. The Iraqis can then choose the best deal for themselves. And the Iraqis should not be lockdown in any long term agreements.
Comment by Nat — August 9, 2007 @ 11:12 pm
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ummm……..
The Iraqis have been given the chance to make some money for themselves. They have been to stupid to take the offer.
What makes you think that they can negotiate for themselves?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:15 pmMedusa > I just looked at a house for sale in North Carolina that had a propane generator. The house had full backup power supply and wood burning stoves for heat too. Had its own well water and emergency underground bunker too.
Comment by Jay Randal — August 9, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
Jay,
August 9th, 2007 at 11:16 pmDid the propane generator generate propane or electricity? If the former, I could be interested. I do know how to generate methane, just eat beans,
What the Iraqis should do is open up a bidding process to all countries. The Iraqis can then choose the best deal for themselves. And the Iraqis should not be lockdown in any long term agreements.
Comment by Nat
WTF!!! You mean we sent the US military into Iraq and they sold their oil to RUSSIA and CHINA!!!
How did that happen? Where was our leadership?
Exxon/Mobil and BP will be VERY pissed!
August 9th, 2007 at 11:17 pm“The Iraqis have been given the chance to make some money for themselves. They have been to stupid to take the offer.”
The Bush administration and American oil companies are trying to rip them off.
“What makes you think that they can negotiate for themselves?
Comment by OCTAVIANVS — August 9, 2007 @ 11:15 pm”
They’re united on this issue.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:17 pmComment by Marcus Aurelius — August 9, 2007 @ 11:15 pm
Look, mofo.
I’m the Princeps, got it.
The PRIMVS INTER PARES.
I don’t need no Christian toleratin’ chump lecturing me about nothing!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 11:17 pmThey’re united on this issue.
Comment by Nat — August 9, 2007 @ 11:17 pm
They’re united in squandering opportunities!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 11:19 pmThe Iraqis have been given the chance to make some money for themselves. They have been to stupid to take the offer.
What makes you think that they can negotiate for themselves?
Comment by OCTAVIANVS — August 9, 2007 @ 11:15 pm
The Iraqis are united on this issue.
And the Bush administration and American oil companies are trying to rip them off.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:19 pmYou are a closet homosexual.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:20 pmYou are a closet homosexual.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 9, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
closet?
Then how would you know?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:20 pmThey’re united in squandering opportunities!!!
Comment by OCTAVIANVS
No they’re not….they are killing many Americans.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:21 pmDaryll says that while he was punking you, you got wood.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:21 pmExxon/Mobil and BP will be VERY pissed!
Comment by upside00 — August 9, 2007 @ 11:17 pm
Tough. The Iraqis should get the best deal that maximizes their country’s wealth.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:22 pmThey’re united in squandering opportunities!!!
Comment by OCTAVIANVS — August 9, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
They’re trying to prevent themselves from getting ripped off.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:24 pmTough. The Iraqis should get the best deal that maximizes their country’s wealth.
Comment by Nat
I fully agree. I was being sarcastic. I hope the Iraqis do indeed get the best deal they can. They have earned that right, for sure.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:24 pmHonestly, Primus, when closet cases are still in the closet it is pretty obvious.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:25 pmMARCVS AVRELIVS,
How dare you steal my shit!!!
I was just a Greek slave, but you had to rip me off!!!
You are not a true Stoic!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 11:26 pmI fully agree. I was being sarcastic. I hope the Iraqis do indeed get the best deal they can. They have earned that right, for sure.
Comment by upside00 — August 9, 2007 @ 11:24 pm
I knew you were.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:26 pmI fully agree. I was being sarcastic. I hope the Iraqis do indeed get the best deal they can. They have earned that right, for sure.
Comment by upside00 — August 9, 2007 @ 11:24 pm
I knew you were.
Comment by Nat — August 9, 2007 @ 11:26 pm
————
Awww… isn’t it nice to all be friends.
MEANWHILE…
Reality CHECK!@!@#!@$
IT’S NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 11:27 pmBush is holding out for a deal to be signed by his puppet government. It won’t happen, for the same reason Robert E. Lee wouldn’t fire on Virginians, and went with the Confederacy. The Iraqi government should sign the contract, with an addendum that it was signed under duress, and at the demand of occupying forces. Spoils of war should be a thing of the past.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:28 pmComment by Nat — August 9, 2007 @ 11:26 pm
What scares me, is if they do hold out and not buckle under to BushCo and the Big Oil thugs, will Darth start having their lawmakers ‘offed’ by BlackWater or sent to CIA secret prisons and waterboarded?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:29 pmQuick quiz: Who said this?
“Freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.”
August 9th, 2007 at 11:30 pmGot that right. You, however, are, and always be, an asswipe.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:31 pmMr. P, can you stick with one name? I can tell in a second who you are but others might not know, Epictetus. Honestly, I don’t call myself Heironymous.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:31 pmIT’S NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Epictetus — August 9, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
You never know.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:31 pmColin Powell ASSURED the US that the oil was “Iraqi treasure”, NOT that of the USA.
Remember?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:33 pmYou never know.
Comment by Nat — August 9, 2007 @ 11:31 pm
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That’s true.
But come on, let’s be realistic…
August 9th, 2007 at 11:33 pmProbably. But the cost of the war will become unbearable to BushCo (it’s already becoming unbearable to the American people) when we reach a point of no ROI (money – not lives). Then, we’ll declare victory and pull out.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:34 pmI’m out…
Feel free to jack this name, libs.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:34 pmColin Powell ASSURED the US that the oil was “Iraqi treasureâ€, NOT that of the USA.
Comment by Arn Gunnutes
You mean the guy who isn’t part of the government anymore……ohhh.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:35 pmAnyone seen Colin Powell around, lately?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:36 pmWhat scares me, is if they do hold out and not buckle under to BushCo and the Big Oil thugs, will Darth start having their lawmakers ‘offed’ by BlackWater or sent to CIA secret prisons and waterboarded?
Comment by upside00 — August 9, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
He’d probably hire Iranians to do it and then point out that Iran is killing Iraqi politicians. The administration will then commence the invasion of Iran.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:37 pmWe’ll be jackin’ something, but it ain’t your name.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:37 pmNo thanks, Mr. P. I know you will have a new one tomorrow.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:37 pmComment by Marcus Aurelius
Actually, I think you should take Mr. Pee’s assimilation of Roman names as a compliment. He is a shape-shifting moron but he chose you to emulate…..maybe he desires to be as worthy as you…..he must carry many stones up steep mountains to be so…but still he desires.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:39 pmI am from Crete. Emulate me tomorrow MP!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 11:41 pmColin Powell ASSURED the US that the oil was “Iraqi treasureâ€, NOT that of the USA.
Comment by Arn Gunnutes
You mean the guy who isn’t part of the government anymore……ohhh.
Comment by dlet — August 9, 2007 @ 11:35 pm
#
Colin Powell ASSURED the US that the oil was “Iraqi treasureâ€, NOT that of the USA.
Remember?
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — August 9, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
Anyone seen Colin Powell around, lately?
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
I agree. Powell was just another LIAR and TRAITOR like Bush and Cheney, a FAR CRY from being an “honorable general”.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:41 pmAnd Minos is too easy.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:41 pmArn, very true. Colin Powell gave up any credibility with his UN speech.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:42 pmShiites, Sunnis and Kurds are united in their disapproval of the proposed oil laws that Washington and Big Oil are pushing
If they remain strong, continue to fight for what is right maybe we should take lessons.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:43 pmArn, very true. Colin Powell gave up any credibility with his UN speech.
Comment by JPark
Agreed.
P.S. If you want a good laugh, reverse the letters in my first name, and read my entire name again…
August 9th, 2007 at 11:44 pmAnd Minos is too easy.
Comment by JPark
F-that. I just got back from Greece…..104 in the shade…I carried a beer to my mouth and almost passed out…any stone carrying would kill a mortal man.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:44 pmHey Mr. Pee. Any answer to # 60?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:45 pmNRA!! I missed it!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 11:45 pmComment by dlet — August 9, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
Thanks (I think!). I’ve been raising hell in here for the past 3 days – it’s been a lot of fun. I do, however, like to post serious comments every now and then, and the troll baiting keeps me from doing much of that. I hope y’all don’t mind the antics, but a little of their own medicine seems to cure the problem (or at least the symptoms).
August 9th, 2007 at 11:45 pmdlet, there is a nice breeze on the island of Crete. I haven’t been there yet but the weather sounds like North Carolina.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:46 pmNRA!! I missed it!!!
Comment by JPark
NRA Gun Nutes!
August 9th, 2007 at 11:47 pmMaybe more like Maryland. I guess it can get pretty cold in the winter.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:47 pmPowell sold out his military in the most shameful fashion. He is the proximate cause of most of the american and Iraqi deaths. He is the reason many wingnuts point to Bush as having “never lied”, forgetting that the president bears the final responsibility. All of Powell’s Cheney’s, Rumsfeld’s, Rice’s and any other administration members’ lies are Bush’s lies. Hundreds of lies, repeated shamelessly, and eagerly parroted by the corporate flacks calling themselves journalists. There has been nothing positive accomplished by this administration for the American people, except the final destruction of the GOP, which is only a plus if it isn’t already too late to save this country from its fate. Fascism has arrived, wrapped in the flag and quoting scripture, just another capitalist cliché.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:48 pmMarcus,
August 9th, 2007 at 11:49 pmI am able to post now and then on TP. I have seen your kung-fu and it is good. I just wish TP would do something about trolls (those that add nothing to discussion) and let true opinions fly. I know every person here doesn’t have the same beliefs and hopes as everyone else but the trolls just…well….suck. TP needs to do something about them. If they don’t….they are as spineless as the Congress that let the new FISA act through.
I kind of feel sorry for Powell. He trusted BushCo, and got thrown under the bus. Has anyone noticed that the Repukes aren’t floating his name as a Presidential or VP candidate? I think he’s gone into self-imposed exile. He could be rehabilitated if he came out with the truth, and against the freekin’ nightmare that is the Republican party.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:53 pmBut I doubt that’ll happen. if he stumps for them, i think that the chickens will come home to roost.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:55 pmAww, crap, I went for a full paragraph and then I guess I didn’t fill in the name and email. Powell was a whore. The so called down to earth military guy sold the war like no other. The guy has a whole lot of blood on his hands.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:56 pmThat would be a fun VP debate. Throw in the Towell…I mean Powell against….um….whomever….hahahahaha.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:56 pmMA, he knew at the UN, that he was lying. No doubt about it. I would NEVER feel sorry for that asswipe.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:57 pmPowell is the Ollie North of this generation. Hmmm. Can someone name a high level military man that is carrying the water for this administration at this moment?…..seems repetitive doesn’t it?
August 10th, 2007 at 12:04 amBetrayus? :)
August 10th, 2007 at 12:04 ampennyless
Um, I don’t think “sitting” on a diminishing natural resource is a “pennyless” move, Mr. A$$hat.
Where’s your drool bucket, reject hillbilly?
August 10th, 2007 at 12:06 amComment by dlet — August 10, 2007 @ 12:04 am
They’ve promoted mid-level paper pushers to Field Marshall status (Petreaus). Once they run out of career-minded mid-level guys, they’ll start offering the rank of General to new recruits – provided they can read a script.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:07 amMA, they do seem to be running out of actual Generals.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:10 amI was just checking out PrisonPlanet.com site and has an opinion article up that owner of DailyKos works for the CIA and manipulates his progressive posters. I do not know if this charge has legs, or not, but if Kos owner is CIA the crap will hit the fan soon.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:11 amJay, I am all for ripping on Markos. He is a tool. A CIA tool? I doubt it, but a tool, nonetheless.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:12 amComment by Marcus Aurelius — August 10, 2007 @ 12:07 am
I just hope they know how to move large amounts of men and equipment out of a hot zone.
Bushie has kicked out the top-notches in the military to hear what he wants to hear. This is a fool’s quest. He is the Don Quixote of oil wells. Too bad the 300,000+(?) Sanchos’s won’t be around to see the end.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:13 amdlet, I saw an article about how tough it would be to withdraw. The right seems to think it would be Vietnam, part II. Maybe with all the ignorant, incompentent officers these days it would be.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:16 amComment by Jay Randal — August 10, 2007 @ 12:11 am
Seriously?
August 10th, 2007 at 12:17 amJPark the article claims that Markos actually did officially work for the CIA for 6 months prior to starting DailyKos in 2001. I do not know if article has documented facts to back up the charge, but the CIA does like to infiltrate groups. Controlling Kos would be on par for the CIA.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:19 amComment by JPark — August 10, 2007 @ 12:16 am
Moving 150,000 troops to Kuwait to await departure doesn’t seem too difficult to me. Constantly supplying troops throughout Iraq seems a lot tougher than that logistically speaking.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:19 amdlet > yes go to PrisonPlanet.com and scroll down to Commentary articles on the left side to see article about Kos.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:20 amJay, whether he worked for the CIA is irrelevant. If he did it does not make him a righty (he is actually a DLC drone).
August 10th, 2007 at 12:22 amJay, I agree, I don’t see withdrawal as being so difficult. Pretty stupid to think there would be some huge push like in Vietnam.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:23 amJPark > CIA since 2001 has become a right-wing group. Before 2001 it had some liberals in it like Ray McGovern. I have a friend who worked for the CIA and I asked him once if he is retired > he laughed because he said the agency never lets you go completely.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:27 amArticle at PrisonPlanet.com > “Daily Kos: CIA Engineered Controlled Opposition?” by Kurt Nimmo > 8-9-07.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:29 amThe NERVE of those recalcitrant scamps. After all we have done to, err, for them?
-GSD
August 10th, 2007 at 12:32 amAbout K-o-s,
August 10th, 2007 at 12:33 amI know that putting a label on someone can be damaging. If he worked there then maybe he saw the innards of the belly of the beast and wanted to do something about it. Who knows? Someone can say that I worked for the Stete Department…..I was in the Pearce Corns but hey I was inside the govt……….take a step back on this…….
Funny that a comment I tried to make about CIA just vanished.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:34 amsorry for the misspellings but the TP filter seems to running rough shot.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:34 amdlet I am just putting it out on here to be discussed. I have no concrete proof that owner of Kos is a CIA agent. Just saying if it becomes true, then it would damage the progressive blogs and cause rancor.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:36 amThe CIA is a joke. The Agency couldn’t forsee the fall of the USSR, for god’s sake.
BTW, It’s interesting to note that one year prior to the fall of the Soviet Union, if you had asked 1,000 Russians how long their government would last, none would have said one year. They were also bogged down in an unwinnable war in Afghanistan.
Our economic, constitutional, military, and internecine problems seem to tarck that of the USSR.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:36 am“Our economic, constitutional, military, and internecine problems seem to tarck that of the USSR.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius”
All of these problems and we have the poltical equivalent of Saddam Hussein at the helm in America.
-GSD
August 10th, 2007 at 12:37 amRemember, as Bush World collapses, they are going to try and destroy everything in their path.
Like the spoiled kid who can’t lose at chess and kicks over the whole board.
There will be many more attacks after they are done with Kos.
-GSD
August 10th, 2007 at 12:39 amComment by Jay Randal — August 10, 2007 @ 12:36 am
Oh..no. That’s cool. Glad to see that people are on the watch and still can dig questions out. I think there will be a time when secrets will rule. Then no one will be aware of who the person is next to them. Kinda like the Soviet style of rule. Fear speaking out because your neighbor might be an informant.
Kos will/has to answer this.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:39 amYes Markos at Kos needs to address the charge in PrisonPlanet.com.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:42 amThere will be many more attacks after they are done with Kos.
-GSD
That’s the biggest question in my mind…..why did this happen soon after the convention? Could it be because Kos was in the press….fresh in the minds of the stupid…..now a slander on him….what will be remembered by the sheeple? No matter the truth.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:42 amIn the article” “I applied to the CIA and I went all the way to the end, I mean it was to the point where I was going to sign papers to become Clandestine Services.” (Markos Alberto Moulitsas Zuniga)
August 10th, 2007 at 12:46 amdlet > article could be slander, but PrisonPlanet is very anti-Bush.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:47 amYes Markos at Kos needs to address the charge in PrisonPlanet.com.
Comment by Jay Randal
I suggest he ignores it Jay, Prison Planet is seen as a looney site.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:48 amIn fact I would highly suggest that Markos address the charge today. If he ignores it, then it can grow legs even if untrue.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:50 amTau > PrisonPlanet is no more looney than any other blog site. ConspiracyPlanet.com is one of the real lunatic sites on the web.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:52 amarticle could be slander, but PrisonPlanet is very anti-Bush.
Comment by Jay Randal
I am not saying PP put out slander…I am just questioning why this info suddenly came out now. With Kos in the news spotlight…all the sudden he is a CIA plant? Info that causes direct harm should always be questioned as to its motive for being released. I would like to know who got wind of this and why….
August 10th, 2007 at 12:53 amdlet > article could be slander, but PrisonPlanet is very anti-Bush.
Comment by Jay Randal
PrisonPlanet is pretty far out there, IMHO
They are like a far left Drudge Report.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:53 amLots of conspirisy using very flimsy proof. Not all articles, but alot are like that
We will see how Markos handles this charge. If phony then he can refute it with evidence. If true, then he will probably vanish to Greece.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:54 amIf he ignores it, then it can grow legs even if untrue.
Comment by Jay Randal
Are you kidding me. It has legs already even if untrue. Rush will babble about tomorrow….dittoheads will be everywhere spewing conjecture…..MSM will do a piece……..Couric is looking for a bump……
August 10th, 2007 at 12:56 amWayne > some articles on PrisonPlanet error on the side of unproven conspiracy. Some end up having legs. I am unsure about this one about Kos.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:56 amdlet > that could happen. Notice if Drudge goes with the story today.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:58 amIf the charge was planted, then the right-wing blogs and Rush Limbaugh will launch all out attack on Kos today.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:00 amMust sleep. g’night.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:02 amLook, O’Reilly has been launching a full frontal assault on Kos…..Fox News has piled on. I am sure Hannitard and the rest….Drudge…WorldNuts….
It is too fishy. It also helps to ruin Kos.
-GSD
August 10th, 2007 at 1:03 amAre you kidding me. It has legs already even if untrue.
Comment by dlet
This stinks like a Tricky Dick style tactic to destroy a powerful opponent. Nixon did crap like this.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:04 amReady to send that fax yet?
August 10th, 2007 at 1:09 amWith the troll gone, you can actually discuss things without having to step in troll droppings.
Too bad that won’t last.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:10 amWayne > article could be partly true and right-wing elements in CIA want to punish Markos. Will be interesting to see if this story gets hyped today.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:11 amSince Bush has been given authorization to eavesdrop, by Congress, then lots of dirt is going to be dug up on Democrats and bloggers over the next 6 months. Karl Rove loves to dish dirt.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:13 amReady to send that fax yet?
Comment by Dr. Dog
I offered to fly and meet you and show you.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:15 amYou want me to fax personal data to a stranger and you stated on this blog you would post it online.
You can rot in hell first.
Little green doctors are pounding at my back.
-GSD
August 10th, 2007 at 1:17 amWayne > watch out for Dr. Dog. The right-wing GOPers want to dig up dirt on all of us.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:18 amBush Regime believes that Daily Kos is the heart of the left-wing on the Net, so they might believe taking that out would be beneficial to them. If they succeed, then TP could be next.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:22 amTest.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:24 amIs Kos a plant by the CIA? To create a mass folowing to command and then command them to support Hillary and Obama.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:25 amHey Dr. Dog!
It’s me, M r (you know who)
August 10th, 2007 at 1:25 amWayne, I will box you in any ring in the country.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:26 amIs Kos a plant by the CIA?
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That’s what I have heard. It is pretty easy to control the minds of Dems.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:26 amHey man. Sure I know who you are. How did the threads look today? Were the libs rebutted?
August 10th, 2007 at 1:28 amThat’s what I have heard. It is pretty easy to control the minds of Dems.
Comment by Epictetus
It does make sense. It is a very professional operation set up by an amateur.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:29 amOh yeah.
The libs thought that a conservative was calling for another terrorist attack (in order to unite the country). However, I proved that it was, in fact, a Dem!!!
Why do the Dems hate America?
(Just kidding, Dr. Dog. We both know why!)
August 10th, 2007 at 1:30 amOff to bed and the trolls want this thread now. Bye all.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:31 amNight, Jay.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:31 amComment by GSD — August 10, 2007 @ 1:17 am
Hi, GSD, has Jim Bunning gone insane?
Hi, Wayne, I see you and Dr. Dog are still at it. Have fun!
Just stopped by to see what’s new. Looks like same trolls, some sporting different names. Just another night at TP!
See you tomorrow!
August 10th, 2007 at 1:32 amIt is a very professional operation set up by an amateur.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 10, 2007 @ 1:29 am
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I know. He had all the Dem presidential candidates
August 10th, 2007 at 1:33 amat the yearly-whatever. Something is not right.
‘Night, Jay!
August 10th, 2007 at 1:33 amIs Kos a plant by the CIA? To create a mass folowing to command and then command them to support Hillary and Obama.
I don’t know about kos being a plant, but it seems something or someone(?) continues to put Hilliary out there as if she is the favorite… no one I know or do I see any blogs really wanting Hilliary to win the primary. I do not trust this situation and feel the neocons may have the goods on her to kill the Dem win in ‘08.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:36 amHi, Wayne, I see you and Dr. Dog are still at it. Have fun!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
That troll asked me to send personal data and stated here on this blog he would post it online.
I am not even going to resond to it anymore.
night Jane.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:40 amHa…..Republicans have never held a separate thought from Bush, yet the Dems are easy to control.
Funny stuff.
-GSD
August 10th, 2007 at 1:41 amThe establishment is getting behind Hillary just like the establishment stabbed Howard Dean in the heart and moved John Kerry in to take a dive.
-GSD
August 10th, 2007 at 1:43 amHa…..Republicans have never held a separate thought from Bush, yet the Dems are easy to control.
Funny stuff.
-GSD
Comment by GSD — August 10, 2007 @ 1:41 am
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The fact that you would say that shows how much of a tool you are.
I think for myself, and to be honest, Bush is kind of a wuss.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:44 amrfresh
August 10th, 2007 at 1:45 amJim Bunny has lost his baseballs.
-GSD
August 10th, 2007 at 1:46 amChimpy comes in and tries to calm the stock markets and like the double-jinx of a Jonah that he is the markets collapse.
What a loser.
-GSD
August 10th, 2007 at 1:47 amWow. It looks like all GSD cares about is scoring a political win.
GSD has no concern for the welfare of the American people, so long as a stock market collapse makes “Chimpy” look bad.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:53 amPlease ignore me. I am a raving lunatic even when at my best, much less when at my worst, as now.
August 10th, 2007 at 1:59 amwhy does the left hate so?
August 10th, 2007 at 2:00 amMommy’s gonna show me what my special purpose is for!
August 10th, 2007 at 2:02 amHaha. The Clinton haters who launched a political war against a president just as Al Qaeda announced plans against the US are now carping about me pointing out facts about how screwed up the nation has become on Bush’s watch.
Funny stuff.
-GSD
August 10th, 2007 at 2:03 amSo, Lefty, what is your usual handle.
August 10th, 2007 at 2:03 amWhy does GSD hate so?
August 10th, 2007 at 2:04 amSo, Lefty, what is your usual handle.
Comment by Epictetus
If I wanted to talk to desperate pedophiles, I’d buy a CB radio.
August 10th, 2007 at 2:12 amok…
I don’t want to why you know that…
Anyway, it seems that you have been reduced to projection and personal attacks.
Your beloved Leftist masters are weak, and your plan for the pussification of America will surely fail.
Liberalism is self-defeating.
August 10th, 2007 at 2:17 amHey, I’m a the posterboy for pussification!
(cuz I thinks it means I’m finally gonna git me some!)
August 10th, 2007 at 2:20 amFinally something that they can unite on. Maybe they can even manage to force the US out at some point. The bases may be finished, but that doesn’t mean they are that permanent.
August 10th, 2007 at 2:22 amFcuk ‘em!
That’s our oil now!!!
Hey, let’s fcuk ‘em WITH our oil!!!
August 10th, 2007 at 2:24 amFinally something that they can unite on. Maybe they can even manage to force the US out at some point. The bases may be finished, but that doesn’t mean they are that permanent.
Comment by Alejandro — August 10, 2007 @ 2:22 am
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However, the reason that they are united in opposing the deal, is because each of the sects wants to control their own share. They are really “united” in the sense that, they do not want to cooperate, or come together as one Iraqi people. They would rather stay separated.
- p
August 10th, 2007 at 2:26 amThis could have been a headline 10 years ago and will be the same 10 years from now if there are still any citizens and a country there.
August 10th, 2007 at 2:26 amThis doesn’t take a whole lot of mental capacity to figure.
Why do you think the worse it gets and the more people who leave and/or die the better for the “liberators”?
The heist is on folks.
Don’t get distracted.
Liberalism is self-defeating.
Comment by p
If that were the case, your frilly panties wouldn’t be all up in a wad…
August 10th, 2007 at 2:26 amIf that were the case, your frilly panties wouldn’t be all up in a wad…
Comment by Rapists for Clinton — August 10, 2007 @ 2:26 am
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umm….
I don’t think I know you. But I will have you know, I am happy!
- p
August 10th, 2007 at 2:28 am“Rapists for Clinton”
Strange name. But fitting.
Studies have shown that felons would vote Dem, and in fact, most felons are smarter than other Libs.
August 10th, 2007 at 2:34 amHey, what happened to Arn Gunnutes, or whatever it’s name is?
August 10th, 2007 at 2:34 amStudies have shown that felons would vote Dem, and in fact, most felons are smarter than other Libs.
Comment by p
No you don’t know me, but I’ve been watching you, lurking.
You’re a 2-bit hack, and that link is 100% proof.
You nay-say hardcore partisonship, but drink from the trough of SH*T that is Mancoulter?
You need a full body enema…
August 10th, 2007 at 2:36 amRfC,
What’s with the name?
Seems kind of offensive, you do know that some people who post here have been the victims of sexual assault, right?
August 10th, 2007 at 2:39 amStrange name. But fitting.
Comment by p
You bag on Michael Moore, but from the above statement, you’ve never read a word of his. Hard to judge something you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT, obviously.
You’re a HACK. Also a petty name-shifter.
August 10th, 2007 at 2:40 amJust sayin’
- p
August 10th, 2007 at 2:40 amRapists for Clinton,
Hey, I want free Healthcare!
- p
August 10th, 2007 at 2:41 amMr P, since this site has media attention you have become a problem for your own team. Your loonyness has been noted. And your membership revoked.
August 10th, 2007 at 3:02 amTITVS, Abelard, etc. are trolling Konpervatives.
August 10th, 2007 at 3:04 amThe Iraqis should keep their oil. No US or European oil or energy company should be allowed to profit from it.
August 10th, 2007 at 3:31 amIf you think about it, this Kos.-CIA rumor just might be a slam against both Kos. AND the CIA..
There are plenty of career CIA. who detest Bush/Cheney/Rove, who still blame the CIA. for faulty intel..
This claim about Kos. is a slam against both of them.
And even if Kos. did work for, or apply to, the CIA.~ So what!!
August 10th, 2007 at 3:32 amThis is Rovian, no doubt.
Good to see the people united against the thieves who invaded them.
August 10th, 2007 at 3:34 amProbus and mikeh,
Y’all are some fools!
The only reason that they law was rejected is because separatists are putting their own people above the rest of the Iraqis. The Kurds want a fat piece of the action, so do the Sunnis. The Iraqis are not united, they are money grubbing imbecils and they are probably going to forfeit any chance of seeing some dough, because they can’t work together for the best interests of the Iraqi people as a whole.
August 10th, 2007 at 4:39 amThe United States has rarely lost any conventional military battle since at least 1950. Nor has it, at the same time, ever won a war. It has successfully overthrown governments through interventions or subversion but the political results of all its efforts – as in Afghanistan in the 1980s and Iran in 1953 – have often made its subsequent geopolitical position far, far more tenuous. In a word, in international affairs it bumbles very badly and it has made an already highly unstable world far more precarious than it otherwise would be if only the U.S. had left the world alone.
everyone in the world can see this except the 28% of mongrels in the US
August 10th, 2007 at 5:53 amIf the Iraqis are as “sovereign” as Bush claims them to be, then they and only they should decide what to do with their oil revenues and how they should be distributed. I am glad so see Iraqis come together on this one issue.
August 10th, 2007 at 6:12 am#’s 195 and 196
Probus, I agree.
Big oil will and always has had a dominating hand in dictating government policy in oil-rich nations. Washington’s role should only be to keep these power brokers in check. Instead, I’m afraid the only check will be a big-fat oil laden check to the DC power brokers.
Did anyone really believe for a moment that Iraq oil would pay for our invasion?
And Tobey. Yeah, it scares me that walking among us are thes 28 percenters.
August 10th, 2007 at 7:36 amThat George W Bush certainly is the great uniter. Now who would have ever thought that “W” could unite the Iraqis just by trying to steal their oil. George W Bush never ceases to amaze me./sarc off
Just 528 days until January 20, 2009. By the time Busholini comes back to work from one of his many vacations, it will be less than 500 days.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:02 amSO the cosmic justice would be, after all this, the Iraqis join OPEC? That maybe the best option…
August 10th, 2007 at 8:16 amBig oil has the financial resources to purchase all the oil they need.
Just Bring the Troops Home! Now!
August 10th, 2007 at 8:19 amGee — Iraqi citizens don’t want foreigners controlling their biggest trade commodity?
If the United States was sitting on a huge stockpile of something the rest of the world wanted, I can just imagine what our reaction would be if any foreign powers attempted to grab control of it.
This is a big DUH.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:33 amOfficial 1 million dead in Iraq
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html
We Killed One Million People – Yes, You and I Did
http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/
1,000,985 dead
August 10th, 2007 at 8:41 am___________
Alternet = Sponson of Feminism
Feminism = anti-male hate movement
Alternet = zero credibility
Renounce your support of Feminism and I’ll consider taking Alternet serious.
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August 10th, 2007 at 9:15 amI could only make it to post 44. This thread is dead. The trolls have won again. If it wasn’t so sad, it would be funny. I predict that this site will pretty much die when they get a registration system. People will leave because there are no trolls to play with. Playing with trolls makes them witty and wise and shows how intelligent they are. NOT!
August 10th, 2007 at 9:24 amComment by missmolly — August 10, 2007 @ 8:33 am
READ THE ARTICLE BEFORE YOU MAKE A STUPID COMMENT!!!
August 10th, 2007 at 1:21 pm