In A Three Minute Monologue, Matthews Gushes Over Bush’s ‘Great Neo-Conservative Mind’
In A Three Minute Monologue, Matthews Gushes Over Bush’s ‘Great Neo-Conservative Mind’
Immediately following President Bush’s press conference today, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews spent three unbroken minutes fawning over the president’s “powerful rendition” of his “philosophy” without uttering a single critical word. “I thought in listening to the president, I was listening to one of the great neoconservative minds,” gushed Matthews.
Calling Bush “powerful” on three separate occasions, Matthews marveled at the president’s defense of his foreign policy:
We were given a rare opportunity to hear the real philosophy of this administration with regard to the war in Iraq. A powerful rendition by the president of why we’re there. When he talked about the fact that we can support emerging democracies in the Middle East, and that’s the only way we can prevent future 9/11’s, you’re getting to the heart of why this administration is fighting that war in Iraq.
“This president is ready to fight like a rock through the rest of his term,” Matthews proclaimed. “He made it clear that he’s going to fight as long as it takes to develop a democracy in Iraq. There’s not going to be any change come September.” Watch it:
Bush’s comments today, which contained at least one untrue assertion, were nothing more than a rehashing of his tired old rhetoric. Yet somehow, Matthews, who is labeled a liberal by partisan conservatives, only saw it through rose-colored glasses.
Matthews’ monologue is unsurprising, however, given his long record of hero worship for Bush and his supposedly “powerful” presidency:
– “We’re proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who’s physical.” [5/1/03]
– “Sometimes it glimmers with this man, our president, that kind of sunny nobility.” [10/25/05]
– “I like him. Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs, maybe on the left.” [11/28/05]
– “A little bit of Lincoln there, I think,” referring to Bush finally admitting that telling Iraqi insurgents to “bring it on” in 2003 “sent the wrong signal to people.” [5/25/06]
Given the president’s track record with the truth on Iraq, Matthews should check his uncritical awe at the door.
UPDATE: Media Matters catches Matthews lamenting over the lack of “big, beefy” and “every-way big” guys in the Democratic presidential race.
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Bush is a true political genius.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:52 pmBush is also a brilliant strategist.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:52 pmThe power of Bush’s Pro-America philosophy, will never fail.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:53 pmBUSH IS MATTHEWS NEW AQUA VELVA MAN!
August 9th, 2007 at 6:54 pmThe chimp is certified IDIOT.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:54 pmHe’s obviously sucking up to get some more honorary PhDs.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:54 pmIn A Three Minute Monologue, Matthews Gushes Over Bush’s ‘Great Neo-Conservative Mind’
Only three minutes?
It is also important to realize that President Bush is building off of the great neo-conservative philosophers. So, while Bush does indeed deserve more credit for saving our Motherland, he could not have been as successful if it were not for all of the great neo-conservative philosophers before him.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:55 pmDid Matthews have his flaccid weenie in his hand while he fantasized about his dreamboat?
-GSD
August 9th, 2007 at 6:55 pmIt is comforting to know that future Presidents will look back to Bush and Cheney for guidance.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:56 pmAnd would that be that Bush will don military gear and lead the troops?
Oh wait a minute that would mean maybe getting shot at.
The soldiers are actually offering their pay for 15 months if Bush will come join them. Is Bush on the phone now calling ?
August 9th, 2007 at 6:57 pm“This president is ready to fight like a rock through the rest of his term,â€
I think this is a transcription error. It should read “This president is ready to fight like Iraq through the rest of his term,â€
August 9th, 2007 at 6:57 pmYah more democracy spreading, I mean bomb dropping in Afghanistan, winning those hearts and minds I tell ya, that dubya is a friggen genious, compared to my goldfish that is.
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2007/ 08/ 09/ world/ asia/ 09casualties.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
August 9th, 2007 at 6:57 pmGod Matthews is so sad. Do you think that he has any concept of what he sounds like? He has been pandering to Bush for so long it is pathetic. I really wish that MSNBC would can his ass and bring back David Schuster.
But, I guess having on “liberal” (Keith Olbermann) is all that the corporate owners of MSNBC can stand.
It’s going to be very interesting to see what happens with our MSM once the Democrats control the government. I wonder who they will be pandering to then? Since it’s all about money to them, once the money is on the side of the Democrats, the MSM will have a very hard time staying on the side of the humiliated and defeated conservatives. The corporations are already preparing by donating heavily to Democratic candidates.
The tide is turning. I only hope it isn’t too late.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:58 pmMatthews just signed his Hardball death warrant. As Jan. 09 comes and goes, so will Chris and his overbearing mannerisms. In fact anyone who has politically aligned themselves with the chimpster… is no longer taken seriously.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:59 pmAnd now we know that Sir Tweety has finally gone ’round the bend. What a patronizing slimebag.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:59 pmThe msm have painted themselves into a corner.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:59 pmI’m shocked that Slimeball Tweety failed to note that the president’s bags under his eyes now look like suitcases and his breath was foul.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:00 pm“This president is ready to fight like a rock through the rest of his term,â€
I’d have put it, rather, that President Bush has governed like a rock for his two terms.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:00 pm“one of the great neoconservative minds,…”
Warning, danger! Fatal oxymoron alert! Warning, danger!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:00 pmSo, while Bush does indeed deserve more credit for saving our Motherland, he could not have been as successful if it were not for all of the great neo-conservative philosophers before him.
Comment by Peter Abelard — August 9, 2007 @ 6:55 pm
Bus saved the Motherland? Bush is successful? There are “great neo-conservative philosophers? I HOPE you’re paid to be this out of touch with reality P.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:02 pmAbelard: “Bush is building off of the great neo-conservative philosophers…”
Yes, Peter, and he’s borrowed quite a bit from Leo Strauss - especially the part about “noble lies” and never being honest with the people about your true intentions.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:02 pmThe more that I have heard from Matthews, the more that I understand that he is enamored with the process and form of politics rather than with the substance. Matthews has been consistently critical of the president’s Iraq War in the past. However, Matthews has always been impressed with the gamesmanship of politics over all else. Read his book, it is all about positioning, gaming and image. Matthews does not seem to understand that politics involves real people with real consequences to the lives of many. He would better serve as a casting agent for television than as a political pundit.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:02 pmYeah guidance on how to run a country into the ground.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:03 pmMatthews is becoming more and more irrelevant. Who watches his show anymore?
He’s just the guy who comes on before Keith Olbermann.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:03 pmTweetster should look into getting a voice transplant. About an octave lower than his grating whiney screech should work.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:03 pm“This president is ready to fight like a rock through the rest of his term,â€
It should have been:
“This president is dumb as a rock and has to fight to remeber to breathe.”
August 9th, 2007 at 7:03 pmwtf is wrong with that guy?
August 9th, 2007 at 7:03 pmAbelard: “It is comforting to know that future Presidents will look back to Bush and Cheney for guidance.”
Yeah, kind of like how presidents always try to emulate Herbert Hoover.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:03 pmBush saved the Motherland? Bush is successful?
There hasn’t been a terrorist attack on US soil since 2001.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:03 pm– “I like him. Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs, maybe on the left.†[11/28/05]
I’m proud to be a “whack job on the left”. What a really stupid thing to say.
He was heard to report later: “in other news, the chimps approval rating is 29%”.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:04 pmTimmy Glenn Murphy’s Bush Again.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:04 pmOkay, ain’t no way to do this one clean, guys. Go ahead, let ‘er fly.
Expect trolls en masse any minute now.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:04 pmHe does work for the MSM, isn’t their job PR for the RNC?
August 9th, 2007 at 7:04 pmSee libs, more people are beginning to understand that we have a President that has a brilliant mind. Hasn’t the surge proven that he knew what he was doing all along? I personally believe that he should be ranked as one of the top five Presidents.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:05 pmThese furbearers are the smallest members of the family Mustelidae. Other species of mustelids in Alaska include mink, marten, river otter, sea otter, and wolverine. Weasels are more common than most people realize.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:05 pmYes, Peter, and he’s borrowed quite a bit from Leo Strauss
Yes. Plato and Aristotle, to Machiavelli and Hobbes, to Strauss!
All of the greatest philosophers!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:05 pmMSM/RNC, what the hell’s the difference these days???
August 9th, 2007 at 7:06 pmJMOHR: “Matthews does not seem to understand that politics involves real people with real consequences to the lives of many.”
That may be because he’s a multimillionaire who lives on Nantucket. As Bob Somerby keeps pointing out, when you have a millionaire pundit class trying to speak for and to a middle-class democracy, strange things tend to happen.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:06 pmExpect trolls en masse any minute now.
Comment by The Republic of Stuipdity
Just one, Mr. Pee-Brain with all his alts.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:06 pmoops…
my last comment should say “all of the greatest neoconservative philsophers”
August 9th, 2007 at 7:06 pmPeter - take time off your posting and check just what Bush is saving.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:06 pmFDA hasn’t enough inspectors for the food coming in, our water supplies are unguarded, airports are a joke, take your shoes off but forget that the cargo is unguarded and very easy to access, refiniries can be walked up to, Ports are not being guarded.
Peter, I hope you are being paid very well for your misguided efforts. They really need more of you to combat all the truth coming out.
I personally believe that he should be ranked as one of the top five Presidents.
Comment by Daryll — August 9, 2007 @ 7:05 pm
Of course, your personal opinion means nothing to sane human beings.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:06 pmThe weasel declares a temporary truce with other weasels during the summer mating season. Courtship by the male includes dragging the female around by the scruff of her neck.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:07 pmFight like a rock?
Hmm.
Maybe he’ll think like a rock or act like a rock.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:07 pmIt’s all method. Be the rock, man.
What Peter is not a comic? Oh he must be. He’s doing a parody of a neocon. Hey, he makes me laugh.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:07 pmAbelard: “There hasn’t been a terrorist attack on US soil since 2001.”
OK, that’s 6 years. The first WTC attack occurred 30 days into Clinton’s administration and there wasn’t another Islamic attack on American soil for the next 8 years, so by your thinking, Clinton was even MORE successful.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:08 pm43 - I just got it, you are joking and we thought you were serious !
August 9th, 2007 at 7:08 pmHey, he makes me laugh.
Comment by RagingGurrl — August 9, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
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Good, I’m glad that you are happy!
All Americans should be.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:08 pmDuring a power failure, cooking and eating habits must change to fit the situation.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:09 pmDEBKAfile Exclusive: New Al Qaeda threat of radioactive truck attacks naming New York, Los Angeles, Miami
August 10, 2007, 1:11 AM (GMT+02:00)
The threat was picked up by DEBKAfile’s monitors from a rush of electronic chatter on al Qaeda sites Thursday, Aug. 8.
The al Qaeda communications accuse the Americans of the grave error of failing to take seriously the videotape released by the American al Qaeda spokesman Adam Gaddahn last week. “They will soon realize their mistake when American cities are hit by quality operations,†said one message
Eyes Wide Shut
August 9th, 2007 at 7:10 pmjezus, he is crazy. I’ll tell you what though. I bet he has an awesome selection in his liquor cabinet.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:10 pmBearing Capacity of Shallow Foundations on Sand: A Relative Density Approach.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:10 pmChris Matthews Gushes Over Bush’s ‘Great Neo-Conservative Mind’
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Heh!….This is funny.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:11 pmAll Americans should be.
Comment by Peter Abelard
Happy about what?
August 9th, 2007 at 7:11 pmi don’t think so, that only takes two minutes.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:11 pmIt is comforting to know that future Presidents will look back to Bush and Cheney for guidance.
Comment by Peter Abelard — August 9, 2007 @ 6:56 pm
Of course, a bad example is a valuable resource in determining what not to do.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:11 pm46 - yeah and we are fighting over there so we don’t have to fight them over here. Maybe you think they are not here. Talk to the Law in El Paso and Arizona see what they say.
Peter, Peter find a real dad.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:12 pmLinks to TIME magazine are pathetic! LOL
August 9th, 2007 at 7:13 pmThat’s even funnier, Peter!
There are all types of theories that try to explain how an illiterate and untrainable idiot can have access to unlimited accurate information in a certain field.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:13 pmSee libs, more people are beginning to understand that we have a President that has a brilliant mind. Hasn’t the surge proven that he knew what he was doing all along? I personally believe that he should be ranked as one of the top five Presidents.
Comment by Daryll — August 9, 2007 @ 7:05 pm
Oh DuhRyll, you cut and run when you were provided a link from a credible source that this war is about the oil, and no response? Would Jesus be happy that America invaded a country, and refuses to leave until they sign away the rights to their oil? Is this how Jesus told you to behave?
August 9th, 2007 at 7:15 pmHey maybe Peter is really supporting our troops by supporting Bush just like Mitt’s kids.
Gee, I think the guys on the ground would appreciate you being beside them instead of sitting in your comfy a/c room.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:15 pmComment by texaslady — August 9, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
My number 46 shows:
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 9, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
I guess the numbering is off on my screen or on yours, but it would be helpful to include the time stamp when referring to a comment.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:15 pmcall any vegetable and the chances are good
August 9th, 2007 at 7:15 pmthat the vegetable will respond to you
(Frank Zappa)
Maybe we should send some US soil to the middle east. They can attack it there, so they don’t have to attack it here.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:16 pm60 - More people ? Chris Mathews, that’s your example? First establish that he is human and not one of the Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, Beck clan.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:16 pmIt’s Official: Cindy Sheehan Announces Run Against Pelosi
Momma moonbat here she comes!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:17 pmThere hasn’t been a terrorist attack on US soil since 2001.
Comment by Peter Abelard — August 9, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
There’s been no Continental Army attack on English soil in seven years. Thanks Lord Cornwallis!
King George III - 19th October 1781
August 9th, 2007 at 7:17 pmComment by RagingGurrl — August 9, 2007 @ 7:13 pm
Well, there is more good news from Iraq, both Dems and Reps agree!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:17 pmPlease…PLEASE! let me sex you up.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:18 pm“…he talked about the fact that we can support emerging democracies in the Middle East,…” and dumbing down democracy at home.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:19 pmPlease…PLEASE! let me sex you up.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 9, 2007 @ 7:18 pm
Inappropriate.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:19 pmYou forgot Hitler.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:19 pmWell, there is more good news from Iraq, both Dems and Reps agree!
Comment by Peter Abelard — August 9, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
This simply goes to a Bill Kristol editorial at the Weekly Standard.
Got milk???
August 9th, 2007 at 7:20 pmAbelard: “Bush is also a brilliant strategist.”
Sure he is. That must be why Dems enjoyed the biggest congressional shift in their direction since 1933. Bush has also strategized his party into a great political position for 2008, wouldn’t you agree? And, the strategy of bringing democracy to the middle east - how’s that working out for you, Abelard?
August 9th, 2007 at 7:20 pmBush saved the Motherland? Bush is successful?
There hasn’t been a terrorist attack on US soil since 2001.
Comment by Peter Abelard — August 9, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
Except for that unsolved anthrax attack. And you troop hating neocons don’t care about dead soldiers in Iraq. Those deaths don’t matter to you people because you’re not going to Iraq so you’re safe. Only attacks that can affect you matter, isn’t that right?
August 9th, 2007 at 7:20 pmMomma moonbat here she comes!
Comment by ConservativeWhiteRepublicanMaleEvangelicalChristian — August 9, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
Ad hominem attack. No reply necessary.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:20 pmDumb sh!t Daryll is back.
Hey you fu*king moron. This isn’t “more people” this is the same fu*king idiot that has been wanting to suck Bush off for the past 7 years. Tool.
You are so against homosexuality, but your gaydar is as broken as your brain is. Tweety wants to do Bush and not in the female kind of way.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:20 pmI think all these armchair warriors need to go straight to Baghdad. Bush isn’t doing any fighting, the soldiers are. His policy is an utter failure and he’s too stupid and stubborn to fix it.
Chris Matthews missed his calling as a cheerleader. He has no credibility as a journalist.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:21 pmChris Matthews, the man I see for 30 seconds before Countdown starts.
That Chris Matthews?
-GSD
August 9th, 2007 at 7:22 pmWell, there is more good news from Iraq, both Dems and Reps agree!
Comment by Peter Abelard
What’s so good about that?
August 9th, 2007 at 7:22 pmDon’t worry, we haven’t been atacked in 6 years, and our borders and ports are secure. You’d better head for the basement (don’t forget the duct tape).
August 9th, 2007 at 7:23 pmDaryll would Nixon be in that top five ?
I feel so much better that Tweety is in love with Bush, lets see that makes Rove, Snow, Tweety, oh yes, Peter ! P.S. almost forgot Barney the jury is out on Laura, think she is hanging around for the settlement.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:23 pmagain, class:
pundit = PAID PROFESSIONAL PROPAGANDIST
August 9th, 2007 at 7:23 pmChrissy has a crush on Chimpy. LOL!!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:23 pmThese Bush Cultists also don’t consider anyone in the coalition as having any meaning whatsover.
If so they would be upset by the attacks in Madrid, London, Bali and Jordan.
But they don’t care about anyone but themselves.
-GSD
August 9th, 2007 at 7:24 pmAbelard: “Yes. Plato and Aristotle, to Machiavelli and Hobbes, to Strauss!
All of the greatest philosophers!”
Silly me. When I’m thinking of what philosophy informs the American experiment in representative democracy, I’m thinking of philosophers like Jefferson, Madison, Paine, Adams, etc. Peter Abelard can’t be bothered by thinking like theirs.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:24 pmWhat’s so good about that?
Comment by dlet — August 9, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
His link goes to an editorial by Bill Kristol at the Weekly Standard, dlet.
There is no news there, just Kristol’s personal opinion.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:24 pmChimpy and Tweety should just get a room, already.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:26 pmTypical conspiracy theororist rant.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:26 pmThe way Chris slipped right in to his deep praise right after they broke to him is a sure sign that he had this commentary prepared. This was not an observation…this was a planned and deliberate reach around by Chris. For shame…..pitiful.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:26 pmA little off thread - now why is it that so many Repubs are coming out of the closet lately ? Aren’t they violently against gays?
We have Foley, Haggard, Bob Allen and oh yes, the RNFC chairman Glen Murphy who likes to sneak up in the dark on guys.
Poor repressed people, come out of the closet it is so dark in there.
Now back to Bush, did anyone say he was on a plane to Iraq to lead our guys?
August 9th, 2007 at 7:26 pm. “He made it clear that he’s going to fight as long as it takes to develop a democracy in Iraq. There’s not going to be any change come September.â€
A shocking revelation from Mr. Matthews.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:27 pmWho knew we would be staying after September?
There is no news there, just Kristol’s personal opinion.
Comment by The Republic of Stuipdity
Thanks for taking one for the team…I wouldn’t follow a link by that tard if it smelled of elderberries.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:27 pmrefresh!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:27 pmPlease…PLEASE! let me sex you up.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 9, 2007 @ 7:18 pm
You don’t want him, DuhRyll is a Two-Pump-Chump, which explains why so many of them evangelicals have so many children. They never get to enjoy sex. Mr P is another Two-Pump chump, thus his frustration, and pathetic life hanging out on a progressive site posting his drivel, women don’t want him, he doesn’t have any friends other than micheal, who has the hots for a hermaphrodite mAnn Coulter.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:27 pmWhat kind of an idiot elevates Leo Strauss to the level of Aristotle?
The same kind of brilliant mind that believes killing 60,000 Iraqi civilians will make them favor US-style Democracy.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:28 pmOkay. You sex him up.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:29 pmWe have Foley, Haggard, Bob Allen and oh yes, the RNFC chairman Glen Murphy who likes to sneak up in the dark on guys.
Poor repressed people, come out of the closet it is so dark in there.
Comment by texaslady — August 9, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
Getting busted and facing charges isn’t exactly “coming out”.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:29 pmComment by dlet — August 9, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
Funny!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:30 pmThanks for taking one for the team…I wouldn’t follow a link by that tard if it smelled of elderberries.
Comment by dlet — August 9, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
That’s all right. Just wanted to see waht he was referring to and then discredit it, which was WAAAAY easy to do. Absolutely no NEWS there!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:31 pmcall any vegetable and the chances are good
that the vegetable will respond to you
(Frank Zappa)
Comment by oldtree — August 9, 2007 @ 7:15 pm
Good one.
Now ho you jivin with that cosmic debris?
August 9th, 2007 at 7:31 pmThe same kind of brilliant mind that believes killing 60,000 Iraqi civilians will make them favor US-style Democracy.
Comment by Arthur C. — August 9, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
Did you accidentally leave a zero out of taht figure? Isn’t more like 600,000 Iraqis, or even more, by now?
August 9th, 2007 at 7:32 pmMan, Chris Mathews has to be the biggest fag on the planet — not that I have anything against fags (I live in San Francisco, after all); just against the faggot-hating fags who seem to infest the Republican Party like crab lice in a Bush daughter’s panties. What is it about authoritarians that makes them so gay-hating gay? J. Edgar Hoover (nice name there), Mark Foley, Ted Haggard (no doubt he was), Bob Allen — the list goes on like the train in a Bush daughters’ gangbang.
But Chris Mathews: be careful, next time you stop to squirt at a public restroom anywhere along the interstate. Chris Mathews may be attracted to your cologne/man odor/ignorant political policy and may try to climb over the stall to get at your goodies. When that happens, just tell him you have a wallet full of twenties from Republican blowjobs and don’t need any more. Or just tell him George W. Bush has fu*ked you and the rest of the American public in the a*s so much that you’ll never have want to be fu*ked there again. No doubt he’ll understand, though he’ll later claim he was frightened into solicitation by your overt manliness.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:32 pmChris Matthews is mind linked to Bushiva…
…both are a*swipe…
August 9th, 2007 at 7:32 pmLet’s be clear about something here: when a Bush cultist like Peter Abelard sings the praises of Leo Strauss’ philosophy, he is talking about a profoundly undemocratic vision - Strauss believed society should be run by a small group of elites known as “Special Gentlemen,” and that these elites should tell “noble lies” to the public to achieve their special goals. Strauss did not believe in democracy. We need to understand that modern neocon philosophy is NOT an American value. It is the opposite of what our Framers had in mind.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:33 pmNow back to Bush, did anyone say he was on a plane to Iraq to lead our guys?
Comment by texaslady — August 9, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
No he doesn’t even have the guts to visit those who are sacrificing for his war for oil, I did a quick google of bush goes to iraq, and bush visits iraq came up with several links to 2003. Is this really the last time he went there? So not only AWOL in Nam, the coward is AWOL in his losing wars. (lets all not forget Afghanistan, where I think soon the UK will leave, as well).
August 9th, 2007 at 7:33 pm… oh wow… so now he’s reciting rove’s love letters?
ew…
August 9th, 2007 at 7:33 pm.
Mr. Peeter Abelard,
How many Iraqis have to die before they start to love us?………you can round it off to the thousandenths(is that right?) if you want……
August 9th, 2007 at 7:33 pmWe need to understand that modern neocon philosophy is NOT an American value. It is the opposite of what our Framers had in mind.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 9, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
Thank you Col.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:35 pmIsn’t more like 600,000 Iraqis, or even more, by now?
At least one estimate says so. If true, that means the Bush killed more Iraqis than Saddam.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:36 pmWhy isn’t Matthews on Fox? He’d fit right in there.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:37 pmComment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 9, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
Well the reason “Peter” loves Bush, is that he really loves “Peter”, wink wink. And “Peter” really wants to play with Bushs’ “Peter” in the Bushes.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:37 pmAt least one estimate says so. If true, that means the Bush killed more Iraqis than Saddam.
Comment by Arthur C. — August 9, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
He certainly would appear to be catching up as fast as he can, and in far less time.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:37 pm7:29 - Out of the closet is out no matter how it gets out. What a burden to have to hide and sneak around. If they wouldn’t be so damn uptight and point fingers nobody would care what they like in bed. Or in the park bathroom.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:38 pmBush’ policy of spreading democracy unilaterally by force in the Middle East has been a colossal failure. The surge has also been a resounding failure. Matthews repeated a GOP talking point by invoking 9-11. Saddam had nothing do to with bin Laden or the tragic attacks of 9-11. This president is stubbornly refusing to admit his mistakes. That makes him a very weak individual. In September Bush and Petraeus will say that the surge needs more time knowing that Maliki is incapable of making political progress in Iraq. Matthews is a neo-conservative and thus has no credibility when it comes to telling the truth.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:40 pmStudy: War blamed for 655,000 Iraqi deaths
http://www.cnn.com/ 2006/ WORLD/ meast/ 10/ 11/ iraq.deaths/
Iraqi Deaths under Saddam Hussein: 600,000, which includes 500,000 casualties during the war with Iran.
http://wais.stanford.edu/ Iraq/ iraq_deathsundersaddamhussein42503.html
August 9th, 2007 at 7:40 pmComment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 9, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
Look, the Founders knew that people that come together to deliberate are often erroneous in their opinions. In fact, unless the idiot masses are directed by a superior mind, their decisions usually contradict all reason!!!
Usually, the masses will follow whoever is more desirous of pleasing them. Bush does not want to merely “please” the masses. He is concerned with truly protecting America from all enemies!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:40 pmIf they wouldn’t be so damn uptight and point fingers nobody would care what they like in bed. Or in the park bathroom.
Comment by texaslady — August 9, 2007 @ 7:38 pm
I agree, but there is a difference between voluntarily coming out, which means one is accepting oneself, and getting busted.
Getting busted serves a purpose too. Perhaps its the only way they can acknowldege it. There must be some reason so many GOOPers choose to engage in high-risk behavior.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:40 pmChrissy loves his men “big, beefy and every-way big”.
Is Tweety coming out on network TV?
Sure looks like it.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:41 pm#46–Score one for you, Ripper! And wasn’t it more like 2 weeks into his term–like Feb. 3, 1993? Bush will never be able to match Clinton’s record for length of time without an attack on the homeland. He will always be 8 months short. Unless, God forbid! he concocts a way to serve a third term.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:41 pmUsually, the masses will follow whoever is more desirous of pleasing them. Bush does not want to merely “please†the masses. He is concerned with truly protecting America from all enemies!!!
Comment by Peter Abelard — August 9, 2007 @ 7:40 pm
Whoa… don’t hold back, fellas. Peter’s begging for it w/ this one.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:41 pmHe is concerned with truly protecting America from all enemies!!!
Then he’s failed. Terrorism is way up, not down.
U.S. Figures Show Sharp Global Rise In Terrorism
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2005/ 04/ 26/ AR2005042601623.html
August 9th, 2007 at 7:42 pmThey see no political value in live and let live. Plus, their conservative “base” of sexually repressed hypocrites would turn on them and kill them (based on a mis-reading of the Bible).
August 9th, 2007 at 7:42 pmI’m offended that Chris Matthews would call those here on TP “whack-jobs“. We trolls have earned that right because we’re always here in the stinking trenches and have paid the dues.
Hey Chris, they are our whack-jobs, not yours…..you keep to reporting the news…
August 9th, 2007 at 7:43 pmfirst cokehead in the White House
August 9th, 2007 at 7:43 pmfirst National Guard deserter
first convicted criminal in the White House (Cheney too!)
lost more jobs in his first year than any President in history
broke more international treaties than any in history
lowest job growth in American history
more debt than all previous President’s combined
first administration to out a CIA agent for partisan reasons
largest worldwide protests against the Iraq War
presided over the worst terror attack in world history
first President since the Civil War to lose an American city
spying on his people more than any administration since Stalin
first President to use a wire
first President on antidepressants (& God know what else)
more vacation time than any other Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history. Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.
Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history.
Presided over the biggest energy crises in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
The most secretive and un-accountable of any administration in U.S. history.
Presided over the biggest corporate stock market frauds of any market in any country in the history of the world.
Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in U.S. history.
Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history.
All-time U.S. (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack.
Etc.
Hey Chris, they are our whack-jobs, not yours…..you keep to reporting the news…
Comment by Eric — August 9, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
Again, if we really were the “whack-jobs” Matthews etal keep saying we are ,there’d be no need to attack us endlessly. Sorry, that just validates us.
TP WINS AGAIN!!!! WOO-HOO!!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:44 pmFirst President to start and lose two wars.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:44 pmWhen other ME countries look at what a supposed democracy has done for Iraq, they shudder. They treat Nuri al Maliki like their puppet. Just the other day, while he was out of town, they took advantage of his absence to attack Sadr City and killed some more civilians. Matthew’s can’t help it, he’s just one more well paid hack for the corporations.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:45 pmBush’s Thanksgiving tour of Iraq with the phoney turkey - great photo op. When was he there the next time? Way too much shooting for George. Even for a photo op.
He only visits Walter Reed when the guys are ready to leave, seriously wounded are hidden.
The young man that rescued the kids from the school bus in MN has more brains than Tweety, Bush people wanted to do a photo op with him and he said, “NOPE”. Wow !
August 9th, 2007 at 7:45 pmComment by gnawer of the moon — August 9, 2007 @ 7:45 pm
Good. They know not to fuk around, like Saddam did.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:46 pmI hate to tell you that I told you so, but …..
I TOLD YOU SO!
The MSM is backing Hill’reh, and insofar as supporting Bush and the Iraq War hurts Obama and helps Hill’reh, then that is what the MSM will do.
Barack “let’s get out of Iraq and into Pakistan and Sudan” Obama has lost his followers by trying to look dovish and hawkish at the same time.
When
August 9th, 2007 at 7:46 pmare
you
netrooters
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learn?
In fact, unless the idiot masses are directed by a superior mind, their decisions usually contradict all reason!!!
Usually, the masses will follow whoever is more desirous of pleasing them. Bush does not want to merely “please†the masses. He is concerned with truly protecting America from all enemies!!!
Rather! Providing the mind is mine and not some low-born scum. And make sure you either lock up or ship out the Puritans, the Catholics, Jews and anyone who fails the ‘with you or against you’ litmus test.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:47 pm“I like him. Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs, maybe on the left.†[11/28/05]
Go to hell, Tweety. Go straight to hell.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:47 pmI don’t want to defend CM in any way, but listen carefully to that clip again. The “great neo-conservative mind” he refers to is Paul Wolfowitz. (You can go ahead and laugh about “great” applied in any way to Wolfie, but I think that’s the reading.)
To me, the crudest, least-perceptive and most gushy comment of Matthews is at the end, where he praises Da Boosh for “sticking it” to Congress, for its failure to build safe bridges….
NOLA, anybody?
You’re doing a hekkuva job, Chrissie.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:48 pmSo long crazy people.
I’ll be back tomorrow to poke you with a sharp stick, until then, keep on raging against the machine!
Adios
August 9th, 2007 at 7:48 pm7:43 Perry please add Bush vowed to veto childrens healthbill that really should be a top. Just all heart, a man of the people, thats’ our George. May all that he sows comes back twice to him.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:48 pmSee ya, Ringo!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:49 pmThis Petey Asslard is ally funny.
He actually BELIEFS Chimpy’s bull$hit.
What a maroon.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:49 pmAbelard: “Look, the Founders knew that people that come together to deliberate are often erroneous in their opinions. In fact, unless the idiot masses are directed by a superior mind, their decisions usually contradict all reason!!! ”
That’s quite a sweeping statement. Can you provide any documentation for this or did you simply pull it out of your ass. And, even if you were able to find a Framer’s words to support this statement (I don’t think you can,) their system of checks and balances were designed to mitigate poor governance and bad ideas.
You know what, Abelard. I don’t think you know thing one about what the Framers thought it meant to be an American.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:50 pmMatthews is a grovelling gasbag whose sole concern is with the DC media/pol party curcuit. He has a soul of dog snot.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:50 pmHey Jason,
Long time no see, how come, tired of having your ass handed to you? How did that 2006 Election go? Would it really piss you off if the D ticket was Clinton and Obama, would you still kill yourself as promised? You know a woman and black man running America, hahahahaha!
As for your topic, I don’t think anyone on here would not think Clinton would get the the MSN nod, she’s a whore too, just not as bad as the gay male whore running the country now.
Still doing your mom?
August 9th, 2007 at 7:50 pmNewsflash: Americans love sex. Pleasing the electorate can make you and them much happier. Since this is such an important aspect to a relationship the government and the governed, it is important that you know how to please them. I offer these two words to help Bush please the American public: Oral sex.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:50 pmChris Matthews is irrelevant. TP shouldn’t give him the time of day.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:51 pmComment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 9, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
They created a Constitutional Republic, rather than a strict democracy…
Need I say more?
August 9th, 2007 at 7:51 pmYou know what, Abelard. I don’t think you know thing one about what the Framers thought it meant to be an American.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 9, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
He could always look in the Federalist papers… but there are no pictures to color or fold out…
August 9th, 2007 at 7:52 pmChris just tried to redeem himself by pointing out the Romneys’…
…(chickenhawks’)…
…hypocrisy on Iraq…
…5 sons = none serve…
August 9th, 2007 at 7:52 pm#
Chris Matthews is irrelevant. TP shouldn’t give him the time of day.
Comment by dloberk — August 9, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
It actually serves a purpsoe to drag this nonsense out into the light of day.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:53 pmJ.R. 7:45 - I agree with you but we need to add a few others that like cavorting with the elite. How about Dick Gregory and Tim Russett to name a few. How can anyone be objective if you finished off a BBQ with George or friends. Look how much fun Rove is when he does a rapper skit. These guys are just party animals. Who wouldn’t want to be their best buds? So what if they are killing our young and bankrupting our economy and borders. Hey, it is just all in good fun, lighten up people !
August 9th, 2007 at 7:53 pmComment by Peter Abelard — August 9, 2007 @ 7:46 pm
The Sadr community is one of Maliki’s backer in his election to parliament. Attacking them, behind Maliki’s back, only shows the world he’s a puppet, that the US isn’t serious about democracy, and, since Maliki was in Iran working out security issues, just fu*k things up in general.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:53 pmNeed I say more?
Comment by Peter Abelard — August 9, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
I’d suggest reading more, myself.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:54 pmPoor Tweety,
August 9th, 2007 at 7:55 pmHe has become so irrelevant that he has to talk loudly enough for the geriatric, O’Reilly fans who tune into him to see how the ‘liberals’ are thinking. Think about how divided our country has become since the Uniter and Decider has ascended his throne. Tweety is so indicative of that divide, a bloviating psychophant against all those crazy liberals who hate America.
No.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:55 pmComment by gnawer of the moon — August 9, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
Right, it showed the international community who’s really in charge!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:55 pmAbelard, I’m still wondering where our forefathers said “unless the idiot masses are directed by a superior mind, their decisions usually contradict all reason.”
If George Washington was here, he’d kick your ignorant cowardly ass all the way across the Potomac, Goober.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:55 pm#
Chris just tried to redeem himself by pointing out the Romneys’…
…(chickenhawks’)…
…hypocrisy on Iraq…
…5 sons = none serve…
Comment by big papa — August 9, 2007 @ 7:52 pm
Indeed!!! The Croix de Poulet-Mohet!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:55 pmCongress appropriated $5 Billion for bridges this year and Chimpy threatened to veto it, he wanted only $3 billion.
We actually need $9 Billion a year for 25 years to fix all the bad bridges.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:55 pmArthur C……give it up.
This is a war against terrorism and it will be going on long after Iraq. It started way before Iraq. If you would read some history, it’s very normal for an enemy to escalate the fighting when they are first confronted or cornered. If we had put the majority of our forces in Afghanistan like you stupid libs wanted, the fighting would be there instead of Iraq —- in extremely difficult terrain that beat the Russians. The location is irrelevant, the fight has started and will continue until moderate Arab countries (Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon) who already support us against muslim extremists and their safe havens (Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Taliban, etc.) gain the upper hand and enter the 21st century. Moderate Muslims still have the numbers, just not the loudest voices and media coverage. Sort of like the moral majority here in the US far outnumber liberal extremists. We are doing the right thing. Your side is wrong once again.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:56 pmIf George Washington was here, he’d kick your ignorant cowardly ass all the way across the Potomac, Goober.
Comment by Arthur C. — August 9, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
Careful, keep replying to him directly, you’ll help him take over the thread, again!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:56 pmAbelard, I’m still wondering where our forefathers said “unless the idiot masses are directed by a superior mind, their decisions usually contradict all reason.â€
…
Comment by Arthur C. — August 9, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
It’s implied.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:57 pmRomeny will have a tough time with this flip-flop; I am a white rich male and love the war, because I make lots of money, but PULEEZE don’t ask me to have MY sons serve.
After all, it is their decision to be chickenhawk,…. just like their Daddy! (Mormon, and NeoCon) apples don;t fall too far from the tree!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:57 pmWe are doing the right thing. Your side is wrong once again.
Comment by Eric — August 9, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
Irrational, dishonest position. Don’t debate this troll. There is nothing of value in what he says. DON’T FEED THIS TROLL!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:58 pmThere goes Chris Matthews again, with more of that liberal propaganda.
That was a joke.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:58 pmIt’s implied.
Comment by Peter Abelard — August 9, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
Ah yes, no argument.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:58 pm#
Chris just tried to redeem himself by pointing out the Romneys’…
…(chickenhawks’)…
…hypocrisy on Iraq…
…5 sons = none serve…
Comment by big papa — August 9, 2007 @ 7:52 pm
That’s only ‘cuz Rommey’s a Mormon, you know a cult weirder than his Christian cult.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:58 pmComment by Eric — August 9, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
100% Correct!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 7:58 pmRight, it showed the international community who’s really in charge!!!
Comment by Peter Abelard — August 9, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
No. It showed that Bush was as callous as the terrorists.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:59 pmPetey Asslard has a crush on Chimpy too.
What a surprise. Another gay-hating closet case Repuke troll.
August 9th, 2007 at 8:00 pmAbelard: “They created a Constitutional Republic, rather than a strict democracy…
Need I say more?”
No need. You’ve already proven that your grasp of the Framers’ political philosophies is just deep enough to get the soles of your feet wet.
“The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation for any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.” (Jefferson’s letter to Benjamin Waring, March 1801)
August 9th, 2007 at 8:00 pm#142, Dittohead,
Obama will NOT be on the ticket with Hill’reh. She will choose someone like Evan Bayh of Indiana. Obama killed his candidacy with the “unilateral attack on Pakistan” comment.
Regardless, Pelosi and Reid have seriously hurt the Dems chances in ‘08, so I am expecting the Republicans to retake the Congress and hold the Presidency.
August 9th, 2007 at 8:00 pmGee and I was just starting to have fun and suddenly we are discussing something George Washington said ?
Hey we are discussing Tweety’s love affair remember ? And Dubya’s longing to go to Iraq and fight along with our troops just as soon as this weekend is over…he has a wedding to attend to.
August 9th, 2007 at 8:02 pm“The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation for any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.†(Jefferson’s letter to Benjamin Waring, March 1801)
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 9, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
——-
Exactly. Jefferson said “our” not their.
Jefferson didn’t trust the idiot masses to make their own decisions, because he KNEW that they would fuk sh!t up!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 8:02 pmI’d suggest reading more, myself.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Mr.P needs books with pictures and small words.
August 9th, 2007 at 8:02 pmSee Spot.
See Spot run.
Run, Spot run…………
“We are doing the right thing”
Yeah…far, FAR right.
August 9th, 2007 at 8:02 pmRight, it showed the international community who’s really in charge!!!
Comment by Peter Abelard — August 9, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
So, the whole democracy thing is just a ruse, eh? Exactly what is it that all our soldier’s blood has given us?
August 9th, 2007 at 8:02 pmArthur C……give it up………..that is such an old sound bite
This is a war against terrorism and it will be going on long after Iraq. It started way before Iraq. If you would read some history, it’s very normal for an enemy to escalate the fighting when they are first confronted or cornered. If we had put the majority of our forces in Afghanistan like you stupid libs wanted, the fighting would be there instead of Iraq —- in extremely difficult terrain that beat the Russians. The location is irrelevant, the fight has started and will continue until moderate Arab countries (Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon) who already support us against muslim extremists and their safe havens (Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Taliban, etc.) gain the upper hand and enter the 21st century. Moderate Muslims still have the numbers, just not the loudest voices and media coverage. Sort of like the moral majority here in the US far outnumber liberal extremists. We are doing the right thing. Your side is wrong once again.
August 9th, 2007 at 8:03 pmRegardles