ThinkFast: August 9, 2007
ThinkFast: August 9, 2007
President Bush is “scheduled to arrive in Kennebunkport today, staying through the weekend for a wedding.” The White House says it is not a “vacation,” but rather a “recess.” The Bushes will host French President Nicolas Sarkozy and his wife, Cecilia, on Saturday.
“A soft-spoken teacher [who] posted the words ‘Impeach Bush’ in a public garden” has been “cast as an outlaw.” The Plain-Dealer reports “the case is emerging as a free-speech issue of interest well beyond the boundaries of placid Portage County.”
The New York Times notes that President Bush’s unpopularity is taking a toll on his father. “It wears on his heart…and his soul,” longtime aide Ron Kaufman said. Some “close to the former president say it is clear that the father has been dissatisfied with the performance of some of his son’s aides, notably Donald H. Rumsfeld, the former secretary of defense.”
Bush “said yesterday that he is considering a fresh plan to cut tax rates for U.S. corporations to make them more competitive around the world.” With most of his legislative agenda in tatters and “his strategy in Iraq under bipartisan fire, Bush appears eager to return to familiar issues that animated the beginning of his presidency and might rally disaffected Republicans behind him again.”
The effort to reduce the size of Guantanamo “has been hampered by a laundry list of diplomatic, legal and political challenges, including the unwillingness of some countries to accept detainees and concerns about human rights abuses in others.” The Pentagon has suggested a goal to release up to 150 of the 360 men, “which would leave about 210 who they say could be eligible for war crimes trials or should be held indefinitely.”
“The space shuttle Endeavour roared into orbit Wednesday carrying teacher-astronaut Barbara R. Morgan, who was finally fulfilling the dream of Christa McAuliffe” and the rest of the Challenger crew that befell tragedy in 1986.
“Migrants from Mexico and Central America are finding it harder to get jobs and are living under a dramatically increased sense of siege,” according to a new study. The study “demonstrates for the first time with hard numbers the impact that the immigration debate in Washington is having on America’s streets.”
And finally: Fighting terror with a flashlight. “The Department of Homeland Security is developing a new weapon to fight the bad guys: a flashlight that makes a person throw up. … The bright light pulses, which vary in color and duration, induce disorientation, vertigo and nausea.”
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The White House says it is not a “vacation,†but rather a “recess.â€
You can put lipstick and a tutu on a pig and it’s still a pig.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:09 am“A soft-spoken teacher [who] posted the words ‘Impeach Bush’ in a public garden†has been cast “as an outlaw.†The Plain-Dealer reports “the case is emerging as a free-speech issue of interest well beyond the boundaries of placid Portage County.â€
And why not? If you post the 10 Commandments in a public garden, you’re an outlaw also.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:12 amOur corporations don’t need tax cuts. What needs to be done is to stop giving them government money. Also, the government needs to aggressively regulate them so they can become competitive with foreign corporations since they are unwilling to change their practices and the quality of their products themselves. If he actually wanted to help businesses, he would pursue a nationalized form of health insurance which would not only help ever American, but would take the burden of providing health insurance for employees off of the companies.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:12 amSome “close to the former president say it is clear that the father has been dissatisfied with the performance of some of his son’s aides, notably Donald H. Rumsfeld, the former secretary of defense.â€
Well, now we know why Georgie always needs a fall guy around him to throw under a bus when he screws up. He inherited that tendency from his father.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:13 amO. Bigfoot
And why not? If you post the 10 Commandments in a public garden, you’re an outlaw also.
Wow, your logic is flawed.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:13 am“Migrants from Mexico and Central America are finding it harder to get jobs and are living under a dramatically increased sense of siege,†according to a new study. The study “demonstrates for the first time with hard numbers the impact that the immigration debate in Washington is having on America’s streets.â€
It would appear that our efforts to put pressure on the illegals in our country IS having some effect, then. Glad to hear it!
August 9th, 2007 at 9:14 amLast year, our Thief-in-Charge was treated for Lyme disease.
Lyme disease usually manifests itself similar to flu like symptoms, with malaise (extreme tiredness) being quite common.
Kind of explains why he looks tired all the time!
If left untreated, Lyme disease can cause serious neurological damage, such as short term memory loss.
Hey, that could possibly explain Alberto Gonzales’ inability to recall anything of importance.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:16 amJust an advanced stage of Lyme disease, eh ‘Berto???
Bush “said yesterday that he is considering a fresh plan to cut tax rates for U.S. corporations to make them more competitive around the world.â€
Yes, we certainly do need to ensure that these corporations earn 10 billion a year rather than 5 billion a year and so that they can pay their CEO’s 10,000 x the salary of the average worker.
What this country needs is a President who will do something to stop corporations from sending our jobs over seas and from bringing people from India here to do our jobs for us. We also need to rebuild our manufacturing ability and stop buying cheap goods from China. I would rather pay more for my goods if that is what it takes to bring up the standard of living of average Americans.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:16 am“O. Bigfoot
And why not? If you post the 10 Commandments in a public garden, you’re an outlaw also.
Wow, your logic is flawed.
Comment by squegeeboo — August 9, 2007 @ 9:13 am”
Not at all. My logic is dead on. Free speech is free speech, is it not? Or are only certain forms of “free speech” allowed in the “progressive” realm?
August 9th, 2007 at 9:17 am“including the unwillingness of some countries to accept detainees and concerns about human rights abuses in others.â€
We care about the human right abuses in countries where these people may live. Give me a break. We are abusing these people at Guantanamo, why would we care about the human rights policies of the countries who will take them?
August 9th, 2007 at 9:18 amBush is illegal. Stealing the White House gives him no authority. Trial for war crimes is a must, and he will easily be found guilty. One can only hope that he will be publicly executed.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:18 amAnd finally: Fighting terror in with a flashlight. “The Department of Homeland Security is developing a new weapon to fight the bad guys: a flashlight that makes a person throw up. … The bright light pulses, which vary in color and duration, induce disorientation, vertigo and nausea.â€
Gee there’s always country music, or watching Nascar!
August 9th, 2007 at 9:19 amBush “said yesterday that he is considering a fresh plan to cut tax rates for U.S. corporations to make them more competitive around the world.â€
More tax cuts should really help out on the national debt. Good thinking…idiot.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:20 amGee there’s always country music, or watching Nascar!
Comment by DittoHeads Suck — August 9, 2007 @ 9:19 am
or reading the antiAmerican lies of the likes of bigfoot and the other ratwing traitors here.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:20 amPlease do not allow Bigfoot to take over this thread. It’s very annoying and serves no purpose. I really don’t understand why you people like hitting your head against a stone wall. All you accomplish is go come away with a headache.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:21 amAnd finally: Fighting terror in with a flashlight. “The Department of Homeland Security is developing a new weapon to fight the bad guys: a flashlight that makes a person throw up. … The bright light pulses, which vary in color and duration, induce disorientation, vertigo and nausea.â€
Do they then die from choking on their own vomit?
I can see where this may be helpful to prevent tragedy in a home setting, where you don’t want to kill a friendly by mistake.
On the terror battlefield, however, it would seem to be of limited use.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:21 amPresident Bush’s unpopularity is taking a toll on his father. “It wears on his heart…and his soul,â€
Um….the soul part is disputable.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:22 amBush “said yesterday that he is considering a fresh plan to cut tax rates for U.S. corporations to make them more competitive around the world.â€
Q: Who governs multi-national corporations?
A: No one, they govern us.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:22 am“The Department of Homeland Security is developing a new weapon to fight the bad guys: a flashlight that makes a person throw up. … The bright light pulses, which vary in color and duration, induce disorientation, vertigo and nausea.â€
mmm…they could give me all that money for research and I would have given them 3 bottles of tequila. Same thing.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:23 amTerror battlefield? Wheres that?
August 9th, 2007 at 9:24 amOn MSNBC this morning, I saw that Pakistani Pres. Musharraf was insinuating that it was Obama’s comment that was destabilizing his country and might be the reason he’d have to declare a state of emergency. Even CNN didn’t pick up that little piece of Administration-planted disinfo because it was so laughable.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:24 amronjazz is illegal. Perverting the idea of Americanism gives him no authority. Trial for crimes against nature is a must, and he will easily be found guilty. One can only hope that he will be publicly executed.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:24 amUm….the soul part is disputable.
Comment by dlet — August 9, 2007 @ 9:22 am
No dispute; Bush’s are born without souls. Pure evil, look at that insane mother of W’s, she created a monster, with no resistance from the crybaby old man. What a wimp, no wonder W deserted in wartime.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:24 amSo if the detainees in Gitmo are to be released because there is no evidence against them to bring to trial and the countries they are from will not accept them back from us, does that mean they will be released into the US? I wonder how that will go over. Bush cried that these people are pure evil and then he could be forced to release them amongst us.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:25 amAlso posted this last night, and some of you may have seen on other sites, but AT&T is censoring music artists. (While they’re happily turning over your phone records to Shrubby).
http://www.pearljam.com/news/index.php?what=News#195
Make sure to cancel your AT&T.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:26 amYou can put lipstick and a tutu on a pig and it’s still a pig.
Comment by bilbobaggins
Yeah, but a really sexy pig
August 9th, 2007 at 9:26 amConservatism in inherently antiAmerican. America was founded as a liberal democracy. until the Republican party is destroyed and erased, America is not free. fortunately, the GOP is self-destructing rapidly and completely.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:27 amWingNutDaily poll:
Which information source is most reliable in your opinion?
WorldNetDaily 44.44% (1837)
Right-Wing Talk radio 20.80% (860)
Fox News 18.92% (782)
Drudge Report 7.40% (306)
Other 6.89% (285)
CNN 0.48% (20)
Major papers like the New York Times, Washington Post 0.41% (17)
Associated Press 0.34% (14)
MSNBC 0.17% (7)
Big 3 broadcast TV networks 0.15% (6)
Bvwahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
August 9th, 2007 at 9:27 amBush cried that these people are pure evil and then he could be forced to release them amongst us.
Comment by dlet — August 9, 2007 @ 9:25 am
As long as they live in Texas with him, dat’s cool by me!
August 9th, 2007 at 9:27 amBush cried that these people are pure evil and then he could be forced to release them amongst us.
Comment by dlet — August 9, 2007 @ 9:25 am
If they’re pure evil, he will appoint them to cabinet positions.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:28 amAnd why not? If you post the 10 Commandments in a public garden, you’re an outlaw also.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 9:12 am
O. Bigfoot, if you post the 10 Commandments in a public park, you are considered a conscious person. Also, the teacher must be reprimanded. He/She should respect the Office of the Potus.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:30 am“I saw that Pakistani Pres. Musharraf was insinuating that it was Obama’s comment that was destabilizing his country and might be the reason he’d have to declare a state of emergency.”
Gawd, Musharraf is is bad as Bush. What can anything Obama says have to do with his country. Is Obama, all by his little ole lonesome going to invade Pakistan? What Musharraf and Bush don’t like is the fact that the controversy over what Obama said is shining the spotlight on Pakistan and they don’t like it very much.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:30 amBut the Republican party owns the emasculated Democrats – so what does that say about our political system these days?
August 9th, 2007 at 9:30 amBush “said yesterday that he is considering a fresh plan to cut tax rates for U.S. corporations to make them more competitive around the world.†With most of his legislative agenda in tatters and “his strategy in Iraq under bipartisan fire, Bush appears eager to return to familiar issues that animated the beginning of his presidency and might rally disaffected Republicans behind him again.â€
Funny–the Times was reporting today that it is US corporations’ record Overseas profits that were giving them the boost this year. Sounds like they’re pretty competitive already…
August 9th, 2007 at 9:30 amThe Bushes will host French President Nicolas Sarkozy and his wife, Cecilia, on Saturday.
Jebus, I wonder if they will talk about how the progress is going for arming Islamic nations. Sarkozy made a deal with Libya, BUsh Saudia Arabia….remember…Libya blew up a plane full of people over Scotland and Saudis crashed planes into the WTC. These “leaders” are absolutely insane.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:30 amO. Bigfoot
Not at all. My logic is dead on. Free speech is free speech, is it not? Or are only certain forms of “free speech†allowed in the “progressive†realm?
No, your logic is more flawed than communism.
In the case TP cites, it’s a gov’t employee criticizing bush, which is allowed by the 1st Amendment, due to Freedom of Speech
In your example, you talk about putting the 10 commandments in a public park, which can, and has been, successfully argued as a direct violation of the First Amendment due to the Religion clause.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:32 am“Bush “said yesterday that he is considering a fresh plan to cut tax rates for U.S. corporations to make them more competitive around the world.â€
Since most of our manufacturing base is in a union stranglehold and cannot cut wages to Chinese, Indian, Malaysian, Mexican and Taiwanese levels, one way costs can be cut is to cut taxes.
It’s really pretty elementary stuff. Corporations don’t pay taxes anyways, we do when we buy their goods and services.
Or would you actually prefer to be paid at Chinese, Indian, Malaysian, Mexican and Taiwanese levels, and keep taxes high?
August 9th, 2007 at 9:32 amComment by bilbobaggins
Imagine Musharraf making a comment on how bad healthcare is in the US, how US have invaded dozens of countries fighting nobody knows what exactly, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, WP, etc… would you be happy? Well, it works both ways.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:33 amMigrants from Mexico and Central America are finding it harder to get jobs and are living under a dramatically increased sense of siege,†according to a new study. The study “demonstrates for the first time with hard numbers the impact that the immigration debate in Washington is having on America’s streets.â€
God’s will is being done. You cannot lie and cheat to accomplish goals in life. Illegal immigrants, go back to your home country and apply for a work visa in a legal manner.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:33 amRed alert! Stock up on all canned good and bottled water, Bush is on vacation!!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 9:35 amHmm, I didn’t know God had a position on American immigration policy.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:36 amThanks for the update!
God’s will has been done. An evil god has put evil men in charge of the world’s superpower, and they are destroying the USA. Bush and Cheney are Satanists and devil-worshippers, with only evil in their minds.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:36 am“But the Republican party owns the emasculated Democrats ”
- sure,…..hahhahaha…. keep thinking that while the Dems size the ropes, tie the knots, & set up the scaffolding to watch the Rightards hang themselves. No executioner needed.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:36 amGawd, Musharraf is is bad as Bush. What can anything Obama says have to do with his country. Is Obama, all by his little ole lonesome going to invade Pakistan? What Musharraf and Bush don’t like is the fact that the controversy over what Obama said is shining the spotlight on Pakistan and they don’t like it very much.
Obama is a young naive Senator who needs to cease talking and seek guidance from the Veteran Senators. He is currently making idiotic comments that could ruin our relationship with Pakistan. I thought you libs supported diplomacy. Just another one of your inconsistencies.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:37 am38… I don’t give a rat’s ass about what Musharraf says about this country… and I would laugh if someone thought one of the candidates running in the Pakistani election (not even the front-runner, at that) could say something that would destabilize the US.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:38 amGod’s will has been done. An evil god has put evil men in charge of the world’s superpower, and they are destroying the USA. Bush and Cheney are Satanists and devil-worshippers, with only evil in their minds.
Comment by ronjazz — August 9, 2007 @ 9:36 am
Ronjazz, I beg to differ. When was the last time that a massive terrorist attack occurred on our soil?
August 9th, 2007 at 9:39 amI wonder if Bush’s plan to “make U.S. corporations more competitive around the world” includes adopting the environmental regulations and workers rights regulations of those “more competitive” countries?
Bhopal here we come.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:39 amObama never said word one about invading Pakistan. This is the conservative news media’s spin at the orders of KKKarl Rove, the Nazi in charge of propaganda. that’s all it is; anything else is another ratwing lie. At least obama is interested in getting Bin Laden, unlike the
August 9th, 2007 at 9:39 amDeserter-In-Chief, Bin Laden’s best buddy.
Daryll
Ronjazz, I beg to differ. When was the last time that a massive terrorist attack occurred on our soil?
What does ronjazz thinking Bush is evil have to do with terrorist attacks? You just made quite the logic leap there champ.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:40 am42…exactly. In the Bible, isn’t it the anti-christ that supposedly triggers armaggeddon, anyhow? I wouldn’t think any of these so-called Christians would want anything to do with people who are obviously trying to enflame a global conflict. Can you still be raptured if you’ve been duped by the Anti-Christ?
August 9th, 2007 at 9:42 am“The Department of Homeland Security is developing a new weapon to fight the bad guys: a flashlight that makes a person throw up. …
I developed a similar flashlight for $15.99. It’s a regular flashlight with a filter that makes it shine the message “Rove/Delay 2008″ on the wall. So far, everyone who’s seen it has thrown up, at least a little bit.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:43 am“God’s will is being done”
sumthin’ tells me ‘Gawds Will’ is the same as whatever is best furr Daryul..duhhhhhAAAAAAAAAAA
August 9th, 2007 at 9:43 ama new weapon to fight the bad guys: a flashlight that makes a person throw up. … The bright light pulses, which vary in color and duration, induce disorientation, vertigo and nausea.â€
rachel was talking about this yesterday…
imagine if this thing hits the black market, or otherwise…
it can be used BY the bad guys on cops and anyone…
this is a stupid idea.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:43 am.
Daryll
Ronjazz, I beg to differ. When was the last time that a massive terrorist attack occurred on our soil?
What does ronjazz thinking Bush is evil have to do with terrorist attacks? You just made quite the logic leap there champ.
Comment by squegeeboo — August 9, 2007 @ 9:40 am
Evil only supports evil. I have never heard of President Bush supporting terrorists (evil). Squegeeboo, how can the President be considered an evil person? Please list specifics.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:43 amIt’s a recess for President Kindergartner.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:44 amComment by Menehune
Homeschooling is challenging. Good luck.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:44 amDaryll, last massive terrorist attack was under President Bush. There ya go.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:45 am42…exactly. In the Bible, isn’t it the anti-christ that supposedly triggers armaggeddon, anyhow? I wouldn’t think any of these so-called Christians would want anything to do with people who are obviously trying to enflame a global conflict. Can you still be raptured if you’ve been duped by the Anti-Christ?
Comment by Menehune — August 9, 2007 @ 9:42 am
Menehune, President Bush is not the Anti-Christ. He is one of God’s servants. He is not perfect, but he tries to be faithful to him.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:45 amSquegeeboo, how can the President be considered an evil person? Please list specifics.
Comment by Daryll
Has to do with carpet bombing civilians…or something like that.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:47 amDaryll, last massive terrorist attack was under President Bush. There ya go.
Comment by Juan C — August 9, 2007 @ 9:45 am
Prior the President, Clinton had numerous chances to kill off OBL, but he was never proactive about this issue. The blame is on Clinton.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:47 amDaryll
Evil only supports evil.
Wrong. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Evil only supports that which helps it. Not just other evil.
how can the President be considered an evil person? Please list specifics.
He’s curtailed civil liberties.
He’s mismanaged a war leading to pointless/unnecessary deaths of thousands of people (both American and Iraqi)
Maybe you’ve heard this before:
August 9th, 2007 at 9:47 amThe road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Bush supports terroists as a matter of course, holding hands with and kissing terrorist funders, letting terrorist leaders escape even after they’ve attacked the USA directly, and creating thousands more terrorists with an illegal occupation of a sovereign country that posed no threat to the USA, until Bush screwed it all up. We are in far more danger now then ever before, because of Bush’s greed and sociopathy.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:48 amThis stuff about Bush 41’s disappointment in his son makes me sick. The whole Bush family has amply demonstrated it’s recidivism over the years. Bush 41 is a major criminal in his own right, and has demonstrated ample contempt for the law time and again. It’s no wonder his entire family is a ethical train wreck. He should focus on his own abject failure as a parent.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:48 amDaryll
Prior the President, Clinton had numerous chances to kill off OBL, but he was never proactive about this issue.
Never? Ever? Not even once? An aspirin factory in the Sudan would tend to disagree.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:49 amThe New York Times notes that President Bush’s unpopularity is taking a toll on his father. “It wears on his heart…and his soul,†longtime aide Ron Kaufman said.
That’s what happens when your son is a f*cking moron!
August 9th, 2007 at 9:49 amSquegeeboo, how can the President be considered an evil person? Please list specifics.
Comment by Daryll
Has to do with carpet bombing civilians…or something like that.
Comment by Juan C — August 9, 2007 @ 9:47 am
It is a part of war. There are sacrifices in war. This is one of them.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:49 amObama is a young naive Senator who needs to cease talking and seek guidance from the Veteran Senators. He is currently making idiotic comments that could ruin our relationship with Pakistan. I thought you libs supported diplomacy. Just another one of your inconsistencies.
Comment by Daryll — August 9, 2007 @ 9:37 am
Like Bush who’s fired anyone who disagreed with their plan to steal the oil?
DuhRyll you’re a fool. Would Jesus like American invading a country and stealing 80% of their money?
August 9th, 2007 at 9:51 amDaryll
It is a part of war. There are sacrifices in war. This is one of them.
Wait a min, did you just admit that the US has carpet bombed civilians in this war?
August 9th, 2007 at 9:51 amEvil only supports evil. I have never heard of President Bush supporting terrorists (evil).
Comment by Daryll — August 9, 2007 @ 9:43 am
Torture is evil, and Bush supports torture. Surely you must know this. Therefore I conclude that you aren’t a true Christian at all, but instead are a massive hypocrite who picks and chooses what to believe and what not to believe.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:52 amSquegeeboo, how can the President be considered an evil person? Please list specifics.
Comment by Daryll
Using depleted uranium that will cause cancer for those in the area for years to come.
Condoning torture.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:52 amThe blame for Clinton’s failure to kill off OBL is squarely on the GOP, and always will be. You can’t tie a president’s hands with a bullsh*t impeachment and then blame him for Republican obstructionism, even in the dark recesses of the ratwing mind. Bush had 9 months and full warning of OBL’s plans, and did nothing. Bin Laden was well aware that Bush would do nothing, and waited until he was fully ensconced in office before putting the plan into action, with results that we all know about. the fact that Bush hasn’t bothered to capture or kill Bin laden is absolute proof f his complicity and treason.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:53 amIt is a part of war. There are sacrifices in war. This is one of them.
Comment by Daryll
Promulgating an illegal war on false pretenses is evil.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:53 amBearing false witness to his own electorate is evil.
Christianity has been corrupted into a tool of evil.
Daryll is more stupid than evil.
Daryll
Evil only supports evil.
Wrong. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Evil only supports that which helps it. Not just other evil.
how can the President be considered an evil person? Please list specifics.
He’s curtailed civil liberties.
He’s mismanaged a war leading to pointless/unnecessary deaths of thousands of people (both American and Iraqi)
Maybe you’ve heard this before:
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Comment by squegeeboo — August 9, 2007 @ 9:47 am
Wrong again my friend. Wiretapping is being used to protect citizens like you. Do you want to be attacked? Also, civilian casualties are a part of war. There have been civilian casualties during all wars. You are completely in denial. You just can’t believe that the Presidents surge is successfully providing security to Iraq. His plan is working
August 9th, 2007 at 9:54 amIt is a part of war. There are sacrifices in war. This is one of them.
Comment by Daryll
I hope we never meet. I wouldnt want to bring out the worst in me against you.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:54 amCondoning torture.
Comment by dlet — August 9, 2007 @ 9:52 am
Okay, Daryll, you asked a question, and you have received an answer. Now tell us what you are going to do about it, Christian.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:54 amWhy not? Because you’re a moron. That’s why not.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:55 amIt is a part of war. There are sacrifices in war. This is one of them.
Comment by Daryll — August 9, 2007 @ 9:49 am
Funny how it always seems to be the brown people making the sacrifices.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:55 amBush supports terroists as a matter of course, holding hands with and kissing terrorist funders, letting terrorist leaders escape even after they’ve attacked the USA directly, and creating thousands more terrorists with an illegal occupation of a sovereign country that posed no threat to the USA, until Bush screwed it all up. We are in far more danger now then ever before, because of Bush’s greed and sociopathy.
Comment by ronjazz — August 9, 2007 @ 9:48 am
Provide proof (do not include liberal news articles).
August 9th, 2007 at 9:55 amIt is a part of war. There are sacrifices in war. This is one of them.
Comment by Daryll
DO YOU NEED HELP FINDING THE RECRUITERS DARYLL?
August 9th, 2007 at 9:55 amChristian, I’m waiting for your answer. Why do you condone torture? Does this not make you evil?
August 9th, 2007 at 9:56 amDaryll is more stupid than evil.
Comment by Raven
Agreed.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:56 am58… No, he is the False Prophet. Anti-Christ skulks in the shadows. Who could that be, I wonder? The Lake of Fire awaits both of them. Anyone who claims to know the will of God is only listening to the wind blowing through his own empty head.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:56 amwatching the ‘faithful’, such as Daryll, gather ’round the lethal Kool-Aid filled drums, with cup in hand, is quite amusing….. keep going
August 9th, 2007 at 9:57 am“And finally: Fighting terrorism with a flashlight”
Is this the same flashlight (wiped off and disinfected) the trolls were using a few months ago trying to find weapons of mass destruction?
August 9th, 2007 at 9:57 amLike Bush who’s fired anyone who disagreed with their plan to steal the oil?
DuhRyll you’re a fool. Would Jesus like American invading a country and stealing 80% of their money?
Comment by DittoHeads Suck — August 9, 2007 @ 9:51 am
Please provide proof that the President and his cabinet have provided a ploy to steal oil.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:57 amwatching the ‘faithful’, such as Daryll, gather ’round the lethal Kool-Aid filled drums, with cup in hand, is quite amusing….. keep going
Comment by JC on a bicycle — August 9, 2007 @ 9:57 am
If only we could get the rest of the Republican al-Qa’ida to take a sip.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:58 amGood Morning Raven and all…….Good post’s….Still having TP problem’s….Testing to see if I make it through the F… filter….Blessings
August 9th, 2007 at 9:58 amPrior the President, Clinton had numerous chances to kill off OBL, but he was never proactive about this issue. The blame is on Clinton.
Comment by Daryll
more republican lies. Everytime Clinton tried to get bin laden, you republcan traitors howled “wag the dog” and “no war for Monica!” remember? you impeded national security work. you should be in Gitmo with your terrist buddies.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:58 amIn a home setting? Like, you might kill your wife and kids? They don’t need new tech to puke – they have you.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:58 amThat flashlight sounds great. Let’s get it to law enforcement too so they can have another non-lethal means.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:59 amWhy is Daryll asking for proofs? I thought his whole life is based on dogmas.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:00 amGod’s will is being done. You cannot lie and cheat to accomplish goals in life.
Comment by Daryll the Satiryll — August 9, 2007 @ 9:33 am
followed by this little gem
The blame is on Clinton.
which is, of course, a lie to accomplish the goal of not faulting Bush.
Hey, let’s play a fun game. Let’s see how often our parody Daryll (Parodaryll?) contradicts himself.
Because, seriously, that’s all he seems to do when posting here
August 9th, 2007 at 10:00 amPlease provide proof that the President and his cabinet have provided a ploy to steal oil.
Comment by Daryll — August 9, 2007 @ 9:57 am
Look at the profits, moron.Some sacrifice.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:00 amIt is a part of war. There are sacrifices in war. This is one of them.
Comment by Daryll
I hope we never meet. I wouldnt want to bring out the worst in me against you.
Comment by Juan C — August 9, 2007 @ 9:54 am
Most liberals are wimps who have no spine to stand up and make good decisions. This has been proven within the House and Senate. So you, being a liberal, have already brought out your worst to this country because of your views against the President, this war and the troops.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:01 amConservacommies want global domination via corporate control.
Tax cuts? Perhaps the stupidest remark yet by this mentally challenged chimp.
Daryll, will you support our next President, who will be a Democrat?
Daryll?
August 9th, 2007 at 10:02 amDaryll, I want to kiss you on the mouth. You are so damn hot, what with all of your cazy rhetoric. Love ya’, ya’ big ol’ stud muffin.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:02 amCondoning torture.
Comment by dlet — August 9, 2007 @ 9:52 am
Okay, Daryll, you asked a question, and you have received an answer. Now tell us what you are going to do about it, Christian.
Comment by VerbalKint — August 9, 2007 @ 9:54 am
We must use any method to protect our country. It is not like the prisoners are being murdered.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:03 amDaryll
Wrong again my friend. Wiretapping is being used to protect citizens like you. Do you want to be attacked? Also, civilian casualties are a part of war. There have been civilian casualties during all wars. You are completely in denial. You just can’t believe that the Presidents surge is successfully providing security to Iraq. His plan is working
“He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither”
Also, Civilian casualties will happen, however, we shouldn’t help the count along by carpet bombing civilians in a war were such a strategy is useless.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:03 amPlease provide proof that the President and his cabinet have provided a ploy to steal oil.
Comment by Daryll — August 9, 2007 @ 9:57 am
Umm the Iraqi Oil law that Bush is so desperately trying to get enacted. But the people of Iraq have woke up, and thus the insurgency, they realize now it was not about WMD, it was not about Saddam, it was about getting the rights for their oil.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,2140859,00.html
August 9th, 2007 at 10:03 amUh… going out on a very short limb, here…war crimes?
August 9th, 2007 at 10:03 am“In a home setting? Like, you might kill your wife and kids? They don’t need new tech to puke – they have you.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 9, 2007 @ 9:58 am”
Were you born yesterday, doofus? It’s happened before. Also, bullets travel. Sheetrock and plywood are thin. Do you care about your neighbors?
August 9th, 2007 at 10:04 amMore tax cuts for corporations? Supply-side strikes again. It didn’t work with Hoover, it didn’t work with Reagan, and it won’t work now. The American economy is driven by consumption, and only through the expansion of consumer purchasing power can this country be financially strenghtened.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:05 amSure, liberals are sending underequipped troops into 4 or 5 rotations in an illegal occupation with no end in sight. it’s very clear that the rightwing hates soldiers, because they are jealous of their courage. Nothing like chickenhawks, cowards and deserters to accomplish mass murder for profit by sending National Guard fathers and mothers to their deaths. America is the pariah of the civilized world, because conservatives have been allowed into power.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:05 amSo you, being a liberal, have already brought out your worst to this country because of your views against the President, this war and the troops.
Comment by Daryll
Huh? Yeah, Daryll, too much fondling by 60 y/o priests for you, I guess.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:05 amWe must use any method to protect our country. It is not like the prisoners are being murdered.
Comment by Daryll — August 9, 2007 @ 10:03 am
You are not a Christian.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:05 amIt is not like the prisoners are being murdered.
Comment by Daryll — August 9, 2007 @ 10:03 am
Wrong, Daryll. The prisoners are being murdered. Military medical examiners have reported dozens of homicides of prisoners in captivity.
How morally weak you really are.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:05 amDo you care about your neighbors?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 10:04 am
Not if they’re bigoted Nazi’s like you who only think of themselves.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:08 amThe rightwing thrives on conscious ignorance of fact. Put a fact up, they run away in horror, to return with a lie. it was always so, and why all rightwing empires fall. Bush=Hitler, and that’s a fact.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:08 amPresident Bush is not the Anti-Christ. He is one of God’s servants. He is not perfect, but he tries to be faithful to him.
Comment by Daryll — August 9, 2007 @ 9:45 am
Daryll, Bush has instituted an official policy of torture, yet you say he is “not perfect.” How much more can you lower the bar for Bush, Daryll? I don’t see how you can possibly square torture with your alleged Christian beliefs.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:09 amYeah–tax cuts! $10 billion a month fighting a war, billions needed for highway and bridge repair, health care in crises, Americans losing jobs to illegal immigrants and outsourcing, our borders still unsecured, too few Coast Guardsmen to patrol our shores, nuclear power plants still unsecured–the solution? More tax cuts for corporations! Of course! You’re doing a heck of a job, Georgie.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:09 amTigris Lilyl
Americans losing jobs to illegal immigrants and outsourcing
Is a valid reason to give corporations tax cuts.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:11 amThe Iraqi’s must use any method to protect their country. It is not like the prisoners are usually murdered.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:11 amComment by ParoDaryll — August 9, 2007 @ 10:03 am
Bush cares not for this country. he has his Paraguayan escape hatch all planned and ready, and he has socked away untold millions in foreign accounts, knowing full well that he will be hated and hunted for the rest of his life.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:12 amI am sick of the charade put on by hyper-moralizing, self-righteous, warm-mongering, violence-worshipping hypocrites who in one breath pretend to be Christian then in the next breath express support for torture.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:13 amIs a valid reason to give corporations tax cuts.
Comment by squegeeboo
and use slave work, too.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:13 am“Do you care about your neighbors?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 10:04 am
Not if they’re bigoted Nazi’s like you who only think of themselves.
Comment by DittoHeads Suck — August 9, 2007 @ 10:08 am”
That’s the major difference between conservatives and wild-eyed radical hate-spewing liberal kooks.
I wouldn’t want my neighber accidentally killed by a stray bullet, even if I disagreed with him/her politically.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:13 amWe must use any method to protect our country. It is not like the prisoners are being murdered.
Comment by Daryll
What about the use of depleted uranium killing citizens through cncer for generations? Or are you going to twist your faith once again to fit your sick thoughts?
August 9th, 2007 at 10:14 am“Bush cares not for this country. he has his Paraguayan escape hatch all planned and ready, and he has socked away untold millions in foreign accounts, knowing full well that he will be hated and hunted for the rest of his life.
Comment by ronjazz — August 9, 2007 @ 10:12 am”
I think that’s why the Clinton’s left Arkansas and moved to New York.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:15 amIs a valid reason to give corporations tax cuts.
Comment by squegeeboo — August 9, 2007 @ 10:11 am
Reaganomics didn’t work in the Reagan years – what makes you think they will work now?
August 9th, 2007 at 10:18 am“I am sick of the charade put on by hyper-moralizing, self-righteous, warm-mongering, violence-worshipping hypocrites who in one breath pretend to be Christian then in the next breath express support for torture.
Comment by VerbalKint — August 9, 2007 @ 10:13 am”
And I am sick of the self-loathing, sniveling, whining, venom-spewing, un-appreciative hypocrites who pretend to love their country, but hate everything it stands for.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:20 amI thought that Jesus’ kingdom was not of this world. Jesus is going to spank your hot little ass!
August 9th, 2007 at 10:20 amI am sick of the charade put on by hyper-moralizing, self-righteous, warm-mongering, violence-worshipping hypocrites who in one breath pretend to be Christian then in the next breath express support for torture.
Comment by VerbalKint — August 9, 2007 @ 10:13 am
I also! It’s time for the Republican al-Qa’ida to be sent to the margins of American politics, where they belong.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:20 amBut, do you like kittens?
August 9th, 2007 at 10:21 am#111–you think more tax cuts will encourage corporations to provide jobs for Americans? Haven’t they already been given sufficient tax cuts over the decades to provide ample encouragement? As long as they can get slave labor overseas or exploit immigrants here, they can make more big bucks for their CEO’s and their major stock holders. That’s the bottom line–whatever it takes to make more profit! Instead of giving them more tax cuts, we should levy a tax on every job they send overseas in the name of more profit. Maybe that would provide some incentive to hire Americans.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:22 am“A soft-spoken teacher [who] posted the words ‘Impeach Bush’ in a public garden†has been “cast as an outlaw.â€
August 9th, 2007 at 10:22 am——————————–
Wow, a stupid cop who doesn’t know the law. What a surprise.
I wouldn’t want my neighber accidentally killed by a stray bullet, even if I disagreed with him/her politically.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 10:13 am
#
ronjazz is illegal. Perverting the idea of Americanism gives him no authority. Trial for crimes against nature is a must, and he will easily be found guilty. One can only hope that he will be publicly executed.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 9:24 am
No you just call for their public execution.. haha what a twit you are.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:22 amAll balls, (but not enough to go fight over there), no brains.
We must use any method to protect our country. It is not like the prisoners are being murdered.
Comment by Daryll
“Whatsoever you do to the least of my people, that you do unto me.”
August 9th, 2007 at 10:24 amBigfoot is the American Taliban.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:25 amAnd I am sick of the self-loathing, sniveling, whining, venom-spewing, un-appreciative hypocrites who pretend to love their country, but hate everything it stands for.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
So, it is safe to assume you are not a true Christian, And of course, hate the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Seems pretty clear from your posts here.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:26 amTigris Lilyl
That’s the bottom line–whatever it takes to make more profit! Instead of giving them more tax cuts, we should levy a tax on every job they send overseas in the name of more profit. Maybe that would provide some incentive to hire Americans.
Wow, just wow.
So you would force them to stay here, with out giving them a break, and then wonder why they collapse when they can’t compete against the global market. Look at the US Car industry, thats what happens when a company isn’t allowed to compete against the global market. Short term it’s great for the employee’s, long term they all get laid off when the company starts to go under.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:26 am…..Instead of giving them more tax cuts, we should levy a tax on every job they send overseas in the name of more profit. Maybe that would provide some incentive to hire Americans.
Comment by Tigris Lilyl — August 9, 2007 @ 10:22 am”
Or put a tariff on every imported product made in a country which does not utilize fair trade practices, pay it’s workers fair wages, or conform to safety standards equal to the United States.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:27 amWow, a stupid cop who doesn’t know the law. What a surprise.
Yeah, those dumb pigs are always trying to protect the citizens and put their lives on the line and stupid shiit like that, bunch of pigs.
I bet they also took your dope, didnt they? Effin pigs!
August 9th, 2007 at 10:31 am“Bush is illegal. Stealing the White House gives him no authority. Trial for war crimes is a must, and he will easily be found guilty. One can only hope that he will be publicly executed.
Comment by ronjazz — August 9, 2007 @ 9:18 am”
“ronjazz is illegal. Perverting the idea of Americanism gives him no authority. Trial for crimes against nature is a must, and he will easily be found guilty. One can only hope that he will be publicly executed.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 9:24 am”
“No you just call for their public execution.. haha what a twit you are.
All balls, (but not enough to go fight over there), no brains.
Comment by DittoHeads Suck — August 9, 2007 @ 10:22 am”
Ever hear of parody, dimwit?
August 9th, 2007 at 10:31 among term they all get laid off when the company starts to go under.
Comment by squegeeboo — August 9, 2007 @ 10:26 am
Oh Squeegee, how do you feel that a CEO making 120 million dollars a year helps keep a company profitable?
See once again blame the workers, not those at the top, you know furnishing their offices with $60,000 desks. Making the decisions not to build cars that are euro/asian friendly, you know with the steering wheel on the right side, smaller, and more fuel efficient, since the Europeans pay 3x what we do for fuel, and their roads are generally smaller.
Wake up, you’ve been corporate whored.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:35 amwhat does this country stand for Mr. Bigfoot? You claim people here hate everything it stands for but don’t show what that is.
I’m curious to see what you know that the others here are missing.
Keep in mind there is a portion of posters here who have already served their country honorably so choose your words with care.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:35 amI think that’s why the Clinton’s left Arkansas and moved to New York.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 10:15 am
yes, that’s why they must hide and never appear in public. what morons the rightist freaks are! Bill Clinton travels the world, and can’t walk down the street in any country without hundreds of adoring fans wanting to shake his hand. Bush can’t go anywhere without 90 Secret Service agents and pre-programmed audiences. Bush, the most hated man on the planet. Deserving for a deserter in wartime.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:36 amAnd I am sick of the self-loathing, sniveling, whining, venom-spewing, un-appreciative hypocrites who pretend to love their country, but hate everything it stands for.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 10:20 am
We do love our country. We just have a problem with the people who think our country stands for:
- torture
- wars of aggression
- corporate greed
- corruption
- supporting brutal kleptocracies for profit
- xenophobia
- abandoning the poor
- allowing crucial infrastructure to decay
- racism and bigotry
- foreign imperialism
- unchecked executive powers
and a whole boatload of others that have gone on under this presidency. Did I miss anything?
August 9th, 2007 at 10:38 amWhy, yes – now that you mention it! My friend, Billy, had an uncle named Parody Dimwit.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:38 am“So, it is safe to assume you are not a true Christian, And of course, hate the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Seems pretty clear from your posts here.
Comment by upside00 — August 9, 2007 @ 10:26 am”
No.
But it IS safe to assume that I have little respect for people who pervert Christianity, the Constitution, and the rule of law.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:39 amMarcus Aurelius
Why, yes – now that you mention it! My friend, Billy, had an uncle named Parody Dimwit.
Poor form, you missed his comma. Are you sure your friends uncle wasn’t named Dimwit Parody.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:40 amNo.
But it IS safe to assume that I have little respect for people who pervert Christianity, the Constitution, and the rule of law.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 10:39 am
Is it safe to assume that you’ll stop voting Republican, then?
August 9th, 2007 at 10:41 amSqegeeboo:
August 9th, 2007 at 10:43 amThe problems with the U.S. car industry began when their leaders insisted on continuing to produce big gas guzzlers when buyers were looking for more gas efficient vehichles. By the time American car manufacturers caught on, it was too late to catch up.
Bush can’t go anywhere without 90 Secret Service agents and pre-programmed audiences. Bush, the most hated man on the planet. Deserving for a deserter in wartime.
Comment by ronjazz — August 9, 2007 @ 10:36 am
Hey hey hey – that is NOT true, and you KNOW IT!
They LOVED George Bin George in Albania, ok? They loved him so much they even kept his watch as a souvenier!
August 9th, 2007 at 10:43 amO. Bigfoot, if you post the 10 Commandments in a public park, you are considered a conscious person. Also, the teacher must be reprimanded. He/She should respect the Office of the Potus.
Comment by Daryll — August 9, 2007 @ 9:30 am
Darryl, you are confusing respect for the office with respect for Chimpy. One could argue that the teacher is showing great respect for the office by asking for Bush to be removed from it.
We must use any method to protect our country. It is not like the prisoners are being murdered.
Comment by Daryll
Au contraire mon capitan – http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2005/03/03_2005_Bazelon.html
Please provide proof that the President and his cabinet have provided a ploy to steal oil.
Comment by Daryll — August 9, 2007 @ 9:57 am
And finally – the Iraqi Oil Law guarantees privileged access to all Iraq’s oil to western oil companies and Bush made passing that law part of the ‘benchmarks’ for the Iraq government.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-juhasz8dec08,0,4717508.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail
August 9th, 2007 at 10:44 amBigfoot has little respect for Catholics (look throughout history how they have perverted christianity) and this current administration (the list is too long but I believe toasterhead pointed out several great cases).
What does this country stand for Mr. Bigfoot? I believe you are seeing great examples from others here but I only see what you are against.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:47 amBut it IS safe to assume that I have little respect for people who pervert Christianity, the Constitution, and the rule of law.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 10:39 am
Is this in order of priority?
August 9th, 2007 at 10:48 amThe New York Times notes that President Bush’s unpopularity is taking a toll on his father
Take some responsibility for the raising of your child Mr Bush.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:49 amRecess? This is proof that Bush has an elementary school mind.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:49 amTigris Lilyl
August 9th, 2007 at 10:49 amThe problems with the U.S. car industry began when their leaders insisted on continuing to produce big gas guzzlers when buyers were looking for more gas efficient vehichles. By the time American car manufacturers caught on, it was too late to catch up.
Thats part of the issue, although judging by Hummer sales, not a huge part of the issue. Another part of it was that the Unions were entrenched enough to fight any kind of wage adjustment to keep the companies competitive.
But it IS safe to assume that I have little respect for people who pervert Christianity, the Constitution, and the rule of law.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
So you must hate Bush, as he’s pulled a trifecta and perverted all three.
Remember his calling the war on terror a crusade?
Remember his ignoring habeaus corpus for detainees?
Remember his torturing of prisoners, and disregarding the Geneva conventions?
August 9th, 2007 at 10:50 amWhat did you miss TP? How about this piece I just waved at St Darryl:
All told, the Iraq Study Group has simply made the case for extending the war until foreign oil companies — presumably American ones — have guaranteed legal access to all of Iraq’s oil fields and until they are assured the best legal and financial terms possible.
We can thank the Iraq Study Group for making its case publicly. It is now our turn to decide if we wish to spill more blood for oil.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-juhasz8dec08,0,4717508.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail
TP, you need to sort your act out – the ridiculous antics of last night and the poor quality of the research. How many baseball stories? Like Greg Palast says, the US lives behind an ‘electronic Berlin Wall’ – TP is becoming another brick in the wall….. ‘Hey! George Bush, leave the world alone’ – thanks Pearl Jam
August 9th, 2007 at 10:53 amBut it IS safe to assume that I have little respect for people who pervert Christianity, the Constitution, and the rule of law.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 10:39 am
that makes you a liberal. congatulations on seeing the light!
August 9th, 2007 at 10:54 amThats part of the issue, although judging by Hummer sales, not a huge part of the issue. Another part of it was that the Unions were entrenched enough to fight any kind of wage adjustment to keep the companies competitive.
Comment by squegeeboo — August 9, 2007 @ 10:49 am
Why did you ignore my reply?
Listen I have many many friends from around the world, and they’ve told me many times that American car makers do not adjust their vehicles for them, as well foreign car makers have always made vehicles which are more fuel efficient.
How many Hummers are cruising the “global” market?
The ole blame the union thing, but never accepting that it was management that has caused the downfall of the industry that survived all these years with workers and management making a livable wage. Even competing in a global market. But instead of leading (you know management decisions), they all sat back and did not improve fuel economy, building bigger and bigger cars thinking American sales can keep the afloat in a global market.
Yup, you’ve been corporate whored.. Congrats!
August 9th, 2007 at 10:59 amAnother part of it was that the Unions were entrenched enough to fight any kind of wage adjustment to keep the companies competitive.
Comment by squegeeboo — August 9, 2007 @ 10:49 am
Shame on those unions – trying to keep their members employed with living wages and health coverage! Don’t they know it’s all about shareholder dividends???
August 9th, 2007 at 11:00 amI thought protestants perverted christianity by breaking with the church.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:01 amCatholic means “universal” so then the protestant faiths are all elitists bastards.
Bush “said yesterday that he is considering a fresh plan to cut tax rates for U.S. corporations to make them more competitive around the world.†With most of his legislative agenda in tatters and “his strategy in Iraq under bipartisan fire, Bush appears eager to return to familiar issues that animated the beginning of his presidency and might rally disaffected Republicans behind him again.â€
Doesn’t that plummeting dollar help exports? Keep running up that deficit Chimpy, that’s doing a great job of making American goods sell overseas. Oh wait a minute, American goods are made in China. Sorry, carry on. Oh 2/3 of top rank American companies don’t pay tax (Halliburton relocating to terror sponsoring UAE to dodge tax)? So what are you going to do then, give them money?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:03 amHow many Hummers are cruising the “global†market?
Comment by DittoHeads Suck — August 9, 2007 @ 10:59 am
What are you talking about? Humvees are all over the world!
Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Qatar, South Korea, Israel, the Philippines, Okinawa, Germany – just to name a few!
August 9th, 2007 at 11:04 amAnd just like bad gas, Bigfoot goes away
August 9th, 2007 at 11:07 amSqegeeboo:
August 9th, 2007 at 11:09 amI beg to differ. I speak of the first energy crises in the 1970’s–perhaps you’re too young to remember? And the union most certainly did make adjustments at that time. Auto workers, steel workers, airline workers, and other unions were all making concessions in wages and benefits during the 70’s and 80’s and into the 90’s. Tens of millions of union workers did not receive a raise for over a decade. They saw health coverage wittle away with each new contract that presented fewer and fewer benefits. Jobs were reclassified and evolved into new job descriptions with lower wage bases. And it all went to naught because all the while the employees were giving up wages and benefits, the corporate execs were getting big bonuses and more and more stock options and generous perks.
Wasn’t it American Airlines, that was trying to force its pilots to take a wage cut to stay competitive, while giving the executive board millions in bonuses?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:11 amDittoHeads Suck
Why did you ignore my reply?
Missed it, my bad.
But instead of leading (you know management decisions), they all sat back and did not improve fuel economy, building bigger and bigger cars thinking American sales can keep the afloat in a global market.
Sure, thats another reason for their collapse. But you can see the union effect in all sorts of industries, and they represent an additional strain put on American automakers, and that the Unions have learned from their mistakes in the auto-industry. Look at airlines, the unions were forced to take wage cuts because they knew that otherwise they’d end up like the American auto-industry.
toasterhead
August 9th, 2007 at 11:12 amShame on those unions – trying to keep their members employed with living wages and health coverage! Don’t they know it’s all about shareholder dividends???
Actually yes, because now their members are unemployed as opposed to employed at a lower rate. Fine work by them.
Migrants from Mexico and Central America are finding it harder to get jobs and are living under a dramatically increased sense of siege,†according to a new study. The study “demonstrates for the first time with hard numbers the impact that the immigration debate in Washington is having on America’s streets.â€
God’s will is being done. You cannot lie and cheat to accomplish goals in life. Illegal immigrants, go back to your home country and apply for a work visa in a legal manner.
Comment by Daryll — August 9, 2007 @ 9:33 am
Where in that article does it say the migrants interviewed were ILLEGAL? The article is discussing the impact of discrimination on LEGAL immigrants. I know it’s difficult for a racist al-Qa’ida member like yourself to distinguish one brown person from another, but there are actually Central Americans who do come to this country legally.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:14 amAnd how about this one too, TP? Hearts and Minds in Afghanistan:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/09/world/asia/09casualties.html?pagewanted=2&_r=2&hp
Altogether, he said, 20 people were killed in the airstrikes after Taliban fighters came through the village. He figured that the planes had bombed them mistakenly, because the Taliban were fighting United States forces well below the village at the time.
He said that he opposed the Taliban, but that after the bombing raid the villagers were so angered that most of the men who survived went off to join the insurgents.
“The Americans are killing and destroying a village just in pursuit of one person,†said Mahmadullah, 24, referring to Osama bin Laden. “So now we have understood that the Americans are a curse on us, and they are here just to destroy Afghanistan. They can tell the difference between men and women, children and animals, but they are just killing everyone.â€
All the gear and no idea.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:20 amSquegee,
See that’s where you’re wrong, the unions made concessions. Took pay cuts, paid more for their own insurance, and so on. Did the CEO’s and stock holders take one? BIG NEGATIVE!
And you know all those million unemployed auto workers now make less money to buy your service or product. Don’t you get it yet? First the break the unions, then the rest will decline with flooding the market with Illegal aliens, and importing college educated people to do white collar jobs. (Bill gates recently crying to congress there’s not enough technical Americans, so we need more work visas.) When in reality after the Y2K and Dot Com crash there are millions of unemployed technical workers, only they don’t want to work for $25,000 a year like that graduate from Inida.
You support turning America into a third world country? You know so the rich can get richer? that’s mighty un-American of you.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:26 am“Remember his calling the war on terror a crusade?
Remember his ignoring habeaus corpus for detainees?
Remember his torturing of prisoners, and disregarding the Geneva conventions?
Comment by barfly — August 9, 2007 @ 10:50 am”
I’ll take these point by point:
1. And the problem with that is?
2. Habeaus Corpus should not pertain to foreign enemies. Military combatants who fight in battles against the U.S. Military need to be handled by the military, not by civilian courts.
3. Bush tortured no one. The Geneva Convention does not apply to non-uniformed combatants who are not allied with any particular nation.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:27 am3. Bush tortured no one. The Geneva Convention does not apply to non-uniformed combatants who are not allied with any particular nation.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 11:27 am
It is still torture regardless of whether the person is a POW, or a enemy combatant. You are parsing wording. It is still torture. Where is your soul?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:31 am3. Bush tortured no one. The Geneva Convention does not apply to non-uniformed combatants who are not allied with any particular nation.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Just bc the GC doesn’t apply, doesn’t mean that torture is back ‘on the table’. When we torture POW’s and then insist that China do more in relation to human rights, we lose. “Do as I say, not as I do” is never an effective message.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:38 am“It is still torture regardless of whether the person is a POW, or a enemy combatant. You are parsing wording. It is still torture. Where is your soul?
Comment by Krazny — August 9, 2007 @ 11:31 am”
My soul is with the United States and with innocent United States citizens who were wounded and killed during radical muslim terrorist attacks around the world. My soul is with our military fighting overseas to make sure that never happens again. My soul is with the people saved from terrorist attacks which were learned of through our interrogation methods, which have caused no permanent harm, or physical injury, to our enemies.
My soul is NOT with the radical muslims who want us infidels dead, and our way of life destroyed.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:40 amAnd why not? If you post the 10 Commandments in a public garden, you’re an outlaw also.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 9:12 am
Dishonest comment. Figure out the difference between “levy” and “levee” yet?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:41 amour interrogation methods, which have caused no permanent harm, or physical injury, to our enemies.
Right the Spanish Inquisition wasn’t allowed to ’spill blood’. And Alberto ‘Torquemada’ Gonzales thinks as long as ‘major organ failure’ doesn’t result, then the ‘interrogation techniques’ are legal.
BTW, ‘24′ is just a show – it’s not real.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:43 amHey TP , where’s my post on habeas corpus? You tossers.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:44 amBigfoot, you’re delusional.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:45 amThere are numerous reported instances of violent torture, of deaths of interrogated people.
But you dismiss them all.
Wasn’t there a case a few months ago of an interrogator who received a cut in pay rate after killing an Iraqi general? I seem to remember he was yelling questions at the man while he was encased in a sleeping bag, the interrogator was sitting on his chest and covering his mouth and nose.
“And why not? If you post the 10 Commandments in a public garden, you’re an outlaw also.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 9:12 am
Dishonest comment. Figure out the difference between “levy†and “levee†yet?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 9, 2007 @ 11:41 am”
Nothing dishonest about it. Only “liberals” like yourself use the courts to selectively protect free speech you agree with, while denying the rest of us the right to free speech which we agree with.
Figure out the difference between “free speech” and “free speech” yet?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:47 amI’ll take these point by point:
1. And the problem with that is?
2. Habeaus Corpus should not pertain to foreign enemies. Military combatants who fight in battles against the U.S. Military need to be handled by the military, not by civilian courts.
3. Bush tortured no one. The Geneva Convention does not apply to non-uniformed combatants who are not allied with any particular nation.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 11:27 am
1. When a Christian nation is about to invade a Muslim one, it’s not a good idea, diplomatically, to evoke prior wars of aggression and terrorism conducted by Christian nations against Muslim ones. It just reinforces the terrorist propaganda that America is the enemy of Islam.
2. Only 15% of Guantanamo detainees were picked up on the battlefield. Most of these “foreign enemies” were people sold to the United States to collect the reward money or silence a political dissident.
If they must be handled by the U.S. military, then they should actually be handled by the U.S. military, not just left in a permanent state of limbo. Charge them, try them, and either find them guilty or let them go.
Finally, there is a matter of credibility. How can the United States possibly criticize nations such as Egypt and China and Sudan for human rights violations when we are indefinitely holding abducted foreign nationals who have not been proven to have committed any acts of aggression against the United States? Guantanamo is a symbol of U.S. exceptionalism and hypocrisy.
3. You’re right, the United States doesn’t torture. We just redefine torture so that anything short of disembowelment is “aggressive interrogation.” Or we ship our unconvicted alleged terror suspects to countries that do torture.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:48 am“BTW, ‘24′ is just a show – it’s not real.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 9, 2007 @ 11:43 am”
I’ve never seen an episode of “24″. Is it any good?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:49 amSo when’s Armagedon Mr. Bigfoot? That’s the logical conclusion isn’t it? Should we be ramping up our military because these unchristian muslims want us all dead so we better strap on the crosses and line up for the draft because the end of times is upon us.
At least that’s what I read in your fear ladden posts.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:52 am“Or we ship our unconvicted alleged terror suspects to countries that do torture.
Comment by toasterhead — August 9, 2007 @ 11:48 am”
You must mean those other muslim countries, where they do actually use torture.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:52 amI’ve never seen an episode of “24″. Is it any good?
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Dude? Do you live under a rock? (Don’t answer that)
August 9th, 2007 at 11:53 amYeah, it’s ‘any good’…it rocks!
Jack Bauer is da man!
Some “close to the former president say it is clear that the father has been dissatisfied with the performance of some of his son’s aides, notably Donald H. Rumsfeld, the former secretary of defense.â€
Note he’s not dissatisfied with lil Bush. No, the chymperor spawner suffers from the same, What! Blame Me? syndrome as his progeny.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:54 amOnly “liberals†like yourself use the courts to selectively protect free speech you agree with, while denying the rest of us the right to free speech which we agree with.
UUhhh – thanks for playing. 1. George W. Bush’s goons throws people out of tax-payer funded meetings with the President for having questionable bumper stickers – see The Denver Three.
Pity you are blinded by your own ideology. Or maybe just a liar. Which is it?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:55 amYou must mean those other muslim countries, where they do actually use torture.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 11:52 am
Yes, I do – though it’s more than just Muslim countries that use torture. If we really want to “spread democracy” and “improve governance” in the Middle East, perhaps we should lead by example by respecting the rule of law ourselves.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:57 amBack on thread, remember that the President wanted to hammer Hussein because ‘He tried to kill my daddy’. If we follow that logic and consider that daddy dearest is now suffering because of criticism of the chosen one, what logically happens to those critics? Given the President’s love of breaking things, this does not bode well, at all.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:57 am“So when’s Armagedon Mr. Bigfoot? That’s the logical conclusion isn’t it? Should we be ramping up our military because these unchristian muslims want us all dead so we better strap on the crosses and line up for the draft because the end of times is upon us.
At least that’s what I read in your fear ladden posts.
Comment by hellinabucket — August 9, 2007 @ 11:52 am”
I’m sorry if the truth scares you. But the truth is the truth, regardless.
I said nothing about the Battle of Armageddon. I don’t believe the war on terror has anything to do with Armageddon, or will culminate in it.
Either way, if you believe in the Holy Bible, the “good guys”, that is the Christians, win.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:59 am“UUhhh – thanks for playing. 1. George W. Bush’s goons throws people out of tax-payer funded meetings with the President for having questionable bumper stickers – see The Denver Three.
Pity you are blinded by your own ideology. Or maybe just a liar. Which is it?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 9, 2007 @ 11:55 am”
And what, again, does that have to do with the courts and free speech?
August 9th, 2007 at 12:02 pmif you believe in the Holy Bible
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 9, 2007 @ 11:59 am
And if you don’t? There are a hell of a lot of “good guys” on this planet who don’t believe in this particular book
August 9th, 2007 at 12:03 pmBigfoot,
August 9th, 2007 at 12:04 pmInterestingly, the Bible has the Christians losing until Jesus comes down.
“And if you don’t? There are a hell of a lot of “good guys†on this planet who don’t believe in this particular book
Comment by dbadass — August 9, 2007 @ 12:03 pm”
I happen to agree, but unfortunately, if you believe the Holy Bible, the “good guys” who don’t believe in it are pretty much left out of the final picture.
I don’t want to turn this discussion into a solely religious debate, however, certain religions, such as the one commonly referred to as “Mormonism”, have an answer for those who don’t “believe” during their time on earth.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:09 pmI happen to agree, but unfortunately, if you believe the Holy Bible, the “good guys†who don’t believe in it are pretty much left out of the final picture.
You can believe in the Easter Bunny for all I care, as long as you don’t impose your beliefs on the rest of us…. and slapping the Ten Commandments on a public spot implies government endorsement of those beliefs.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:16 pmO. Bigfoot
Either way, if you believe in the Holy Bible, the “good guysâ€, that is the Christians, win.
I think you mean if you ‘read’ the Bible, not ‘believe’ the Bible. If belief was enough to make something happen I’d have a date for this Friday.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:20 pmO. Bigfoot
And why not? If you post the 10 Commandments in a public garden, you’re an outlaw also.
Wow, your logic is flawed.
Comment by squegeeboo — August 9, 2007 @ 9:13 am
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How so?
August 9th, 2007 at 12:22 pmIf belief was enough to make something happen I’d have a date for this Friday.
Comment by squegeeboo
I’ll pick you up at 7. =)
August 9th, 2007 at 12:38 pmHabalaarz
How so?
I covered that earlier, I think it’s somewhere between comment 35-40
August 9th, 2007 at 12:38 pmSGT Higgins
I’ll pick you up at 7. =)
Ha, awesome, thanks, then we can go to the family pig roast on Saturday.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:39 pmHa, awesome, thanks, then we can go to the family pig roast on Saturday.
Comment by squegeeboo
Your family roasts pigs? Forget the date, wanna get married? (I loves me some bacon!)
August 9th, 2007 at 12:48 pmSGT Higgins
Your family roasts pigs? Forget the date, wanna get married? (I loves me some bacon!)
I don’t know, I’d hate to be a home wrecker, especially with that cute toddler you have, also we’d have to move to MA to do it legally.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:51 pmI’d hate to be a home wrecker, especially with that cute toddler you have, also we’d have to move to MA to do it legally.
Comment by squegeeboo
Tease!
Well, had you been a woman our only other option would have been Utah. Well, at any rate, I did get the opportunity to profess my love of bacon, so all was not lost.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:53 pmAnd I am sick of the self-loathing, sniveling, whining, venom-spewing, un-appreciative hypocrites who pretend to love their country, but hate everything it stands for. – O. Bigfoot
me too…
which is why i REALLY need to know what it is
that people like you think their country stands for…
respectfully, i do need to know…
August 9th, 2007 at 1:04 pm…
I asked that question awhile ago katy, with no answer from the large hoofed one.
August 9th, 2007 at 1:30 pmSGT Higgins
I did get the opportunity to profess my love of bacon, so all was not lost.
Sounds like a win even.
August 9th, 2007 at 1:31 pmThanks very much for more tax cuts that will boost wages and lower prices!
August 9th, 2007 at 1:39 pmSure, more tax cuts. Ignore the looming debt created by the Iraq conflict. that’s being fiscally responsible.
August 9th, 2007 at 1:45 pmhttp://www.ndn.org/advocacy/globalization/challengingtherepeconrec.html
Comment by m12 — August 9, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
Right on – your delusion is matched only by your stupidity.
August 9th, 2007 at 1:46 pmCry me a river. George Sr. all in a crying jag over dubya.
Sr., who prosecuted a 16-year-old honor student and had him jailed as an adult for participating as a witness to a boat dock torching. Yeah, he didn’t actually torch anything, but Senior’s boat was in the harbor . . . so of course, he was tried and convicted as a “terrorist.”
Horrible story. Kid went suicidal and was put into a mental hospital, serving time.
Yeah, the whole Bush clan has a clear understanding of terrorism and teenagers.
How many frogs did dubya blow up with dyne-o-mite! How many DUI arrests did he avoid because he’s a Bush? How ’bout those girls? Any of them served in Iraq? No.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:04 pmi saw that hellina… imagine that – no response…
it was worth reading through all this to get to the
courtship of sgt higgins and squeegee…
big laugh with that one… thanks guys!
August 9th, 2007 at 3:05 pm…
katy
it was worth reading through all this to get to the
courtship of sgt higgins and squeegee…
big laugh with that one… thanks guys!
Anything for you katy ;)
August 9th, 2007 at 3:14 pmbig laugh with that one… thanks guys!
…
Comment by katy
My Pleasure =)
August 9th, 2007 at 3:18 pmCindy Sheehan has announced that she is running in Nancy Pelosi’s district as an independent.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:03 pm“The New York Times notes that President Bush’s unpopularity is taking a toll on his father.”
-TP-
…Now if it could just break THEM…
…financially, politically, medically, and socially…
…you make sh*t…
…you should eat sh*t…
…that goes for the whole bloodline…
… their supporters , sycophants, co-conspirators, and worshippers…
August 9th, 2007 at 8:14 pmNice post. Comments are so relevant. Through these sample thoughts/comments you can easily point out who is pros and cons of our US government.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:25 pmI just love how you libs criticise everything the government does, however your solution to everything involves government
August 10th, 2007 at 12:44 amBush should be impeached for lying to Congress about the existence of WMDs that Saddam never had.
August 10th, 2007 at 3:42 am