White House worried about Powell’s Iraq skepticism.
By on Aug 9th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
White House worried about Powell’s Iraq skepticism.
Syndey Blumenthal reports that Steven Hadley and other White House officials “are taking Powell’s early skepticism toward the surge and willingness to express it as a potential sign that he will swoop down on them” just after Gen. Petraeus “asks for more forbearance for the president’s policy” in September. Blumenthal adds that the “release of a documentary on the administration’s failures in Iraq, ‘No End in Sight‘… has the White House spooked” because “it might augur to upset their September rollout.”
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August 9th, 2007 at 3:04 pmColin Powell speak out against something in ADVANCE?? HA!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 3:04 pmAugust 9th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
The Surge is their last roll of the dice. When it fails as it will, then they’ll have nothing left.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:06 pmThe Surge is their last roll of the dice. When it fails as it will, then they’ll have nothing left.
Comment by Jim Wolf359 — August 9, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
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Why do want America to lose?
August 9th, 2007 at 3:07 pmThe Surge is their last roll of the dice. When it fails as it will, then they’ll have nothing left.
Comment by Jim Wolf359 — August 9, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
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Why do you want America to lose?
August 9th, 2007 at 3:07 pmAnything the dems can do to upset any chance of success in Iraq, they will do.
The dem pols have to answer to the buckethead lefty fringe who are demanding action and none too happy about things like FISA.
If anyone is spooked its the dems, they created a monster with the fringe kooks and the kooks want blood.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:07 pmGuess when BushCo threw Powell under the bus, they forgot to back up and make sure they finished the job. Heh Heh
August 9th, 2007 at 3:08 pmHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Whooooo, that was funny!
August 9th, 2007 at 3:09 pmIf anyone is spooked its the dems, they created a monster with the fringe kooks and the kooks want blood.
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird
Sorry tweety bird, but the fringe are the minority, like the 30% who still support this illegal Clusterf@ck. Get a clue.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:10 pm#7 – “Anything the dems can do to upset any chance of success in Iraq, they will do.” Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird — August 9, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
We on the left need do nothing at all. Pres. Bush has done everything to ensure that success in iraq is impossible.
The “right” isn’t.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:10 pmBuses are actually a Filipino invention, first created by Aguiliara using horse-wagons with seats bolted to the decking.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:10 pmWe already lost Habalaarz. It’s a matter of cutting our losses and getting the hell out of there with what ever dignity we have left.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:11 pmMalilki thinks he can handle it? Fine, let him.
Why do you want America to lose?
Comment by Habalaarz — August 9, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
This doesn’t make sense. Irrational comment.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:11 pmBuses are actually a Filipino invention, first created by Aguiliara using horse-wagons with seats bolted to the decking.
Comment by Bishop
And backing up a team iof horses is a bi-otch!
August 9th, 2007 at 3:12 pmWe already lost Habalaarz.
Comment by Jim Wolf359 — August 9, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
DON’T reply to irrational comments! Now you’ve given validity to nonsense by trying to rebutt it. The troll in point will now try to get you to argue all day over this nonsnes.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:12 pmSince this occupation isn’t “winnable” in providing security, political stability, electricity, public services, restoring the shattered infrastructure, providing jobs, etc, why do the trolls want us to continue wasting American and Iraqi lives?
August 9th, 2007 at 3:13 pm#
Buses are actually a Filipino invention, first created by Aguiliara using horse-wagons with seats bolted to the decking.
Comment by Bishop — August 9, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
Fascinating non-sequitur. DON’T FEED THIS TROLL!
August 9th, 2007 at 3:13 pmWe on the left need do nothing at all. Pres. Bush has done everything to ensure that success in iraq is impossible.
Then you might think the left would have enough sense to shut the hell up.
But nope, you equate the POTUS to Hitler, malign the troops as hired killers, dismiss the knowledge and experience of the generals actually on the ground, proclaim the terrorists as winners and generally get hysterical about everything related to Iraq.
If only you WOULD do nothing at all, we would be farther along.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:13 pmWhy do you want to be a dumb fu*k?
August 9th, 2007 at 3:14 pmwhy do the trolls want us to continue wasting American and Iraqi lives?
Comment by RUCerious — August 9, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
WHY ARE YOU TAKING THE BAIT? It’s a nonsense statement and s/b treated as such. Don’t let a troll sucker you!
August 9th, 2007 at 3:14 pmWhy do want America to lose?
Comment by Habalaarz — August 9, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
So that we learn our lesson about arrogantly invading a country that posed no threat to us in order to secure their natural resources. We don’t deserve to win. If we lose, maybe we’ll learn from the mistake and never do it again.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:14 pmThe Republic of Stupdity
r u a libtroll?
August 9th, 2007 at 3:15 pmDON’T FEED THIS TROLL!
Trolls as monsters first appeared in popular mythology in the Assyrian Empire about 3000 B.C.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:15 pmYeah, I know RS. Keep forgetting who and what we’re dealing with here.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:15 pm#7 – “Anything the dems can do to upset any chance of success in Iraq, they will do.†Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird — August 9, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
Any chance of success is long gone. What us on the left are trying to do is get out of that hopeless situation(that we seem to mostly be making worse by being there), and stop throwing american lives away.
We can leave a small amount of troops there to root out terror cells and make they don’t set up any major camps, but running Iraq needs to finally be left to iraqis.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:16 pmTRoS ~ I wasn’t responding to any troll comment.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:16 pmI know there isn’t a reasoned response available, just baiting them.
Why do you want to be a dumb fu*k?
Comment by Spudge_Boy — August 9, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
What are you not getting here? This thread is going to go right into the toilet, AGAIN. YOU ACCOMPLISH NOTHING BY ATTACKING THE TROLLS PERSONALLY. That is EXACTLY what the trolls want. You guys are SO F-ING easy to manipulate.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:17 pmTRoS ~ Stop yelling.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:18 pmSyndey Blumenthal is about as accurate as Jon Stewart.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:19 pmTRoS, you are feeding the trolls. Please stop.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:19 pmI think Habalaarz means why do we want America to be humilated.
Tucker Carlson said it and cleared up why so many conservatives want all our soldiers blood to be shed in Iraq and Iran. It isn’t to save lives it is so we can pretend to be winners. How is ruining a country and killing their people winning ?
Again, read my lips, 15 of the 19 hijackers were SAUDIS not from Iraq or Afganistan.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:19 pmr u a libtroll?
Comment by Habalaarz — August 9, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
See, guys? It works. It freezes the troll out of the conversation. This one is now reduced to attacking me personally, and I’m not going to reply to the troll. That’s what this troll wants, and it’s not gonna get it.
Trolls as monsters first appeared in popular mythology in the Assyrian Empire about 3000 B.C.
Pure silliness.
Comment by Bishop — August 9, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
August 9th, 2007 at 3:19 pmSo that we learn our lesson about arrogantly invading a country that posed no threat to us in order to secure their natural resources.
Comment by toasterhead
Maybe you are upset because your hero was hanged?
August 9th, 2007 at 3:20 pmr u a libtroll?
Comment by Habalaarz — August 9, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
See, guys? It works. It freezes the troll out of the conversation. This one is now reduced to attacking me personally, and I’m not going to reply to the troll. That’s what this troll wants, and it’s not gonna get it.
Trolls as monsters first appeared in popular mythology in the Assyrian Empire about 3000 B.C.
Pure silliness.
Comment by Bishop — August 9, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 9, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
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ok
August 9th, 2007 at 3:21 pmSee, guys? It works. It freezes the troll out of the conversation.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
This is so funny it hurts. Habalaarz, do you feel “frozen” out of the conversation? The libtrolls here can’t stop responding. They are like those dolls that yap when you pull their strings.
Libtrolls are so much fun!
August 9th, 2007 at 3:22 pmThis is so funny it hurts. Habalaarz, do you feel “frozen†out of the conversation?…
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 9, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
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I feel that Mr. Stupidity’s comment was cold. But I do not feel frozen, because I am not going to let his negativity affect me.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:24 pmCue the troll attacks on General Colin Powell in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1………………………………..
-GSD
August 9th, 2007 at 3:24 pmAgain, read my lips, 15 of the 19 hijackers were SAUDIS not from Iraq or Afganistan.
Comment by texaslady
But Afghanistan was sheltering OBL and Iraq was sheltering Saddam and his sons.
Nice try, texaslady.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:25 pmNo End in Sight‘…
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Sorry to say it but this war – the war against militant and political Islam – will last for decades and in the end we, the West, still may not succeed.
Much of western Europe is already doomed.
Retreating from Iraq will only make things worse in the long run.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:26 pmCue the troll attacks on General Colin Powell in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1………………………………..
-GSD
Comment by GSD
The only ones who attacked Powell were the libs here who called him a liar at the UN.
Syndney Bloomenthal is the one who needs to be attacked. He’s about an accurate a journist as Jon Stewart or Colbert.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:26 pm#
TRoS ~ Stop yelling.
Comment by RUCerious — August 9, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
It’s really painful to come here and see how easily trolls disrupt threads and take over. I just want you guys to beat the trolls correctly. Stop the f-ing little creeps in their tracks. When you start exchanging ad hominems w/ them, they win. that’s waht tye want.
The trolls know alot of what they post is sheer nonsense. They took over a thread late last night and were bragging about how dump TP posterw were for letting them do it.
Bishop is pulling nonsense out of his ears w/ comments about buses being invented in the Phillipines. He’s desperately hoping someone goes to Wiki and proves him wrong. He’ll then just go, HA HA, got you to do what I wanted! He’ll probably post a comment like that about what I’m saying right here.
If you DON’T want the trolls to take over here, ya gotta do a better job of fighting them. This is free speech, right here. ya want a REAl democracy? It starts right here. You’re going to win or lose right now. Don’t let rolls take this away from you w/ cheap tricks!
(Funny the way words in CAPS come across as shouting… sorry, but w/ all the ruckus, I’m not sure I’m gettin’ heard. I actually like TP and alot of you guys. I HATE seein’ what the trolls git away w/ here!)
August 9th, 2007 at 3:26 pmThe trolls on this site always appear to be having so much fun. It makes me want to troll. Does anyone know of a right-wing site that allows free speech? I have already been politely refused (BANNED) from redstate and coulter. Are there any right-wing sites that allow left-wingers to troll?
August 9th, 2007 at 3:26 pmThey had a segement on CNN this morning about how Powell has given the maximum campaign donation to….wait for it…McCain! I don’t think Bush needs to worry too much about Powell. He has become very good at marginalizing himeself.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:27 pmRetreating from Iraq will only make things worse in the long run.
Comment by Ringo — August 9, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
Irrational comment. Don’t argue w/ him. It will only validate the statement as being worthy of debate.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:27 pmhimeself? yeesh. must go back to typing school.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:27 pmWhite House has nothing to worry about, they have the Netroots canidates in Washington.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:29 pmTros = Gorn.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:29 pmI love the smell of troll piss and sweat. These pathetic losers get so afraid when their Dear Leader is going down. Look at the frantic and fearful rants they post, they are in their last throes. When Bush and the Boyz are behind bars, who will these weak little shits go to then? Who will they bow down before? I am betting they will all find a strong religious leader who will tell them pretty stories to make them feel safe.
Maybe even promise them a reach around. Next time, little guy, next time. I promise.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:29 pmDoes anyone know of a right-wing site that allows free speech?
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Try: http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/
or: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/
You can be a troll, just try to hold off on the profanity.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:31 pmDon’t argue w/ him. It will only validate the statement as being worthy of debate.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Tros only wants to debate other liberals so his views aren’t challenged. He can’t back up his comments with facts.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:31 pmThese pathetic losers get so afraid when their Dear Leader is going down.
Comment by nanlichi
Actually, Bush’s poll numbers are going up. But don’t let facts get in the way of a good rant.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:32 pmDoes anyone know of a right-wing site that allows free speech?
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Try: http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/
or: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/
You can be a troll, just try to hold off on the profanity.
Comment by Ringo — August 9, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
Never heard of either of them.
The big right-wing blog sites like RedState and Little green Footballs do not.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:34 pmThis is so funny it hurts. Habalaarz, do you feel “frozen†out of the conversation? The libtrolls here can’t stop responding. They are like those dolls that yap when you pull their strings.
Libtrolls are so much fun!
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 9, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
See??? They’re laughing at you, because you’re dumb enough to let them do it. You guys have no discipline. All a troll has to do is show up and wave a little red hankie and you guys lose it in an instant.
You’re losing control of this site to talking dogs. Congrats all the way around!
August 9th, 2007 at 3:35 pmDon’t worry BushCo, Powell’s spine is as weak as overdone spaghetti. I will never forgive him for his sellout of America at the United Nations – that’s when he became a traitor to his country, and I expect more of the same in September.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:36 pmUh oh, Dr. Dog.
TRoS is trying to freeze you.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:36 pm“But Afghanistan was sheltering OBL and Iraq was sheltering Saddam and his sons.
Nice try, texaslady.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 9, 2007 @ 3:25 pm”
WHY IS TP CENSORING MY POSTS????
1) so where is OBL???
2) what does that matter???
If Bush was going to DO AS HE SAID, he should have attacked Saudi Arabia…… There were no Afgan’s or Iraqi’s involved with the attack against the US.
Bush is NOTHING but a PU$$IE!!! He attacks the WEAKEST countries he can find that has nothing to do with the attack in 2001…… Afganistan is questionable as to whether it was a valid conflict!!!
Considering that there were ORDERS sitting on Bush’s desk days before the Tragic False Flag attack of America to attack Afganistan waiting for his signature becuase they REFUSED to negotiate a pipeline through the country…….
August 9th, 2007 at 3:36 pmYou are right as usual TRoS, the pathetic losers are beyond contempt. It’s like getting in an argument with the smelly shit on the corner yelling scripture at the world just to provoke a response.
It’s not worth it. Just ignore the tick infested losers and hope the next bus around the corner loses control and takes them out.
It is fun to poke fun at them though to watch how riled up and frenetic they get. Like a supernova in its last throes, going apeshit before it burns out forever.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:37 pm“But Afghanistan was sheltering OBL and Iraq was sheltering Saddam and his sons.
Nice try, texaslady.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 9, 2007 @ 3:25 pm”
WHY IS TP CENSORING MY POSTS????
1) so where is OBL???
2) what does that matter???
If Bush was going to DO AS HE SAID, he should have attacked Saudi Arabia…… There were no Afgan’s or Iraqi’s involved with the attack against the US.
Bush is NOTHING but a P-U-$-$-I-E!!! He attacks the WEAKEST countries he can find that has nothing to do with the attack in 2001…… Afganistan is questionable as to whether it was a valid conflict!!!
Considering that there were ORDERS sitting on Bush’s desk days before the Tragic False Flag attack of America to attack Afganistan waiting for his signature becuase they REFUSED to negotiate a pipeline through the country…….
August 9th, 2007 at 3:38 pmSorry for the mulitple posts……
Finally they made it throug.
It looked like TP was deleting them!
August 9th, 2007 at 3:38 pmAll the BA will do is label Powell “irrelevant”, conveniently disregarding the fact that Powell still has enough people who respect him and will listen to what he has to say.
They said the same thing about Jimmy Carter, and will say the same thing about anyone else who disagrees with them, even when what they say is extremely “relevant” to the current situation.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:47 pmTRoS ~ point well taken.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:50 pmTroll Piss is nast shit. I might get some on me.
Ignoring these clowns is the best way to frustrate their thread jacking.
I do however, reserve the right to counter bait when I am feeling mischievous. I’ve never seen them offer a rebuttal (other than their normal nonsensical horseshit).
But see…Powell is just a disgruntled employee so disregard whatever he says. How many disgruntled employees does that make now are we in the 100’s ?
August 9th, 2007 at 3:50 pmI’ll be happy when the trolls go away. They have no ability to think for themselves and do nothing to help discourse. Inability to think and espousing thoughts from some pundit is ignorant…as is their entire being.
I still read everything but I don’t bother posting too often. It’s too much like slamming my forehead into a brick wall, over and over and over and over and over and over again.
How can people be so stupid and still be breathing???
August 9th, 2007 at 3:51 pm“How can people be so stupid and still be breathing???
Comment by MsJ — August 9, 2007 @ 3:51 pm”
It’s not that they are stupid, it’s that they suffer from beaten wife syndrom……
Even though Bush is beating them to death as well, they simply stand by him despite the damage Bush is doing to them. They are affraid to speak out, as they have seen what happens to people who do speak out.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:54 pmSince this occupation isn’t “winnable†in providing security, political stability, electricity, public services, restoring the shattered infrastructure, providing jobs, etc, why do the trolls want us to continue wasting American and Iraqi lives?
Comment by RUCerious — August 9, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
The trolls and the wingnuts don’t care if they never win, they just don’t want to lose. They don’t care if we lose money (billions of dollars of it), if we lose American lives (over 3,600 so far), if we lose our standing with the rest of the world (they are pretty much isolationists, anyway), or lose our security (Al Qaeda is getting stronger, not weaker) — just so long as we don’t “LOSE THIS WAR”!
Either that, or they equate Iraq with a sex act — pulling out before the job is done is “unmanly” so they feel they must keep pumping away.
Either way — it’s pretty stupid reasoning.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:59 pmI hope Powell does come to the forefront and expose this administration as the lying bastards that have driven this country far off course.
He knows where the skeletons are buried.
August 9th, 2007 at 4:00 pmColin Powell was the closest thing to a competent, decent human being that the Bush administration had or has. His appointment was obviously a mistake because he opts for integrity rather than blind, stupid loyalty.
August 9th, 2007 at 4:01 pmPowell was respected by GW’s dad and the mastermind of the Gulf War. Remember the successful military operation in the middle east. Clear objectives and overwhelming military force to quickly conquer the enemy.
August 9th, 2007 at 4:05 pmPowell is sucking up to Senator Obama right now. He has to try and clean up his reputation as a knowing liar. Yes he just might turn on his former Boss. But the World Leaders and those who trusted Powell know he’s is a proven liar just like Bush/Cheney. So in some ways who really cares what Powell says. Bush/Cheney can always say he’s lying because he lied for them when they needed the World and Americans to think Iraq had WMDs and the famous mustard gas that would kill all Americans in 15 minutes. Connie did her job well with the mustard gas lie and it worked Americans trusted her words too.
August 9th, 2007 at 4:11 pmNow we know the mustard gas was really mustard for hamburgers and hot dogs, how stupid do we look now.
But Afghanistan was sheltering OBL and Iraq was sheltering Saddam and his sons.
Nice try, texaslady.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 9, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
Neither were the Saudis that attacked us.
Nice try – b!tch.
August 9th, 2007 at 4:12 pmDigDug,
LGF opens registration up on Saturday afternoons. You can sign up and be a troll so long as you don’t make threats, go easy on the foul language and stay somewhat on topic. Most troll eventually get banned though, because thay just can’t controll their hysteria and start spewing profanity.
August 9th, 2007 at 4:14 pmBush approval ratings are going up to……what?
Yea “the left” wants out of Iraq……All 68% of it.
The 29%ers support unending war and contractor profiteering…….”the troops” are expendable or as field marshall rumsfeld said “fungible”.
f B
August 9th, 2007 at 4:17 pmYes I know, I spelled ‘controll’ with two L’s….
August 9th, 2007 at 4:18 pmSaddam was not a threat. We let Osama go in Afganistan when the military had him cornered, kinda defeated the reason we went in and lost American blood wouldn’t you say?
Try arguing issues without profanity might show intelligence.
August 9th, 2007 at 4:19 pmYou know there are many nasty dictators out there, who bankrupt their government, keep their people in low wages with no healthcare, jail whistleblowers, gag the ones who have information, leak CIA names, ignore the needs of their military, on the field and wounded. Wow sound familiar ?
August 9th, 2007 at 4:25 pmAs much as I want to say “better late than never”, this is more a case of “too little, too late”.
Sorry Colin, you sold your soul and for a rather cheap price. It’s going to take a bit more than “skepticism” to win redemption after you assisted these maniacs.
August 9th, 2007 at 4:27 pm#77 TOTALLY AGREE !
August 9th, 2007 at 4:36 pmUh… spelling guys.
It’s Sidney Blumenthal, not Syndey.
August 9th, 2007 at 4:42 pmI welcome Mr. Powells comments. There are larger problems that may be down the road. He won’t ever be forgiven for his lies in front of the UN but his voice still holds weight around the world.
I don’t think he would be doing this for redemption. He understands his lot.
August 9th, 2007 at 5:06 pmUnfortunately Powell’s candor has come too late for our troops who have died or have been seriously injured in Iraq. It is obvious that the surge has failed. Petraeus will only ask for more time in September. It is pointless to give more time to a policy that is flawed. Instead of worrying about a film they should instead focus on changing this failed policy.
August 9th, 2007 at 5:25 pm“Why do want America to lose?
Comment by Habalaarz”
We have nothing left to lose in Iraq except for more American lives. We won the war when we took out Saddam Hussein. We have lost the occupation because there is no way that an occupation is winnable. It is time for us to turn over Iraq to the people who live there and have a vested interest in their country. Iraq is NOT going to give us their oil, so there is no reason to stay one day longer.
And please don’t give me any crap about how Iraq will descend into chaos if we leave. It’s already chaos and could hardly get any worse.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:46 pm>Maybe you are upset because your hero was hanged?
- Dicktor GodDog
Care to discuss what concerns let us consider him our hero as well when Ronnie was president? Rumsfeld must have thought he was pretty cool too because he spend some time planning strategy with him and shook his hand in the end…
August 9th, 2007 at 8:42 pmPowell had opportunities to speak out in the past – and he has let them pass. Why does anyone think he will speak now? In defense of Petraeus? In defense of McCain (to whom he just donated $2300?) Why did he let himself become an example of Bush administration mendacity, thereby tarnishing his own reputation; if he were planning to blast the administration, I don’t see why he would do so now.
August 9th, 2007 at 8:44 pmPowell had some hills to climb in restoring his reputation after his involvement in My Lai – then in Desert Storm, he seemed to have overcome his past – then he laid down in front of the Bush W. bus, and now W is afraid he will suddenly tell the truth?
At this point, it seems to be too late.
I’m not confidence this WH “concern” is real: Powell hasn’t been asked to testify.
This appears to be irrelevant, even if true. Parsing: WH “concern” doesn’t mean the WH is “concerned” or doing anything responsible.
August 10th, 2007 at 5:26 pm