Rep. Bill Sali: Religious Diversity In Congress ‘Was Not Envisioned By The Founding Fathers’
Rep. Bill Sali: Religious Diversity In Congress ‘Was Not Envisioned By The Founding Fathers’
When Idaho State Rep. Bill Sali was running for Congress in 2006, Vice President Cheney visited his state and said, “Bill is ready to make a difference in Washington, and he’s going to be the kind of Congressman who will make you proud.” Now-Congressman Bill Sali (R-ID) is demonstrating his worth by criticizing the new religious diversity embodied in the 110th Congress:
We have not only a Hindu prayer being offered in the Senate, we have a Muslim member of the House of Representatives now, Keith Ellison from Minnesota. Those are changes — and they are not what was envisioned by the Founding Fathers.
Really? Sali may want to take a peek at Article VI of the Constitution, which notes that there is no religious test for public office:
Sali’s not alone in his bigotry. In Dec. 2006, shortly after Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) was elected as the first Muslim congressman, Rep. Virgil Goode (R-VA) warned that “American citizens” need to “wake up” or “there will likely be many more Muslims elected to office.”
Last month, protestors belonging to the Christian Right anti-abortion group Operation Save America loudly interrupted the first Hindu prayer delivered in the Senate. Sali said that when a Hindu prayer is offered, it “creates problems for the longevity of this country.”
UPDATE: MahaBlog notes that Thomas Jefferson argued strongly for religious freedom.
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F**KING MORON
August 10th, 2007 at 10:02 amWow, like DC had a shortage of nut-jobs before this guy crawled out from under his rock.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:03 amHe’s elected folks. Now we know the neighborhood.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:05 amAhhhh, the tolerance of the religous right.
Ignore the constitution, ignore the teachings of Jesus.
Can I get an A-MEN!!!
August 10th, 2007 at 10:05 amPity that Thinkprogress has driven some posters away by their lack of policing their site. If Zooey wasn’t being stalked, she might have been around to comment on this dirtbag.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:07 amAmen, Terry. BTW, Sali is an idiot.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:08 amHere is a link from TPM
August 10th, 2007 at 10:08 amhttp://www.onenewsnow.com/ 2007/ 08/ idaho_congressman_disturbed_by.php
Maybe the founding fathers couldn’t have fathomed such a diverse society or the reflection of that society in the halls of Congress (I personally doubt it). More importantly in that statement is the overwhelming fear that the neo/theocons have in losing a white majority.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:10 amLOL! wait……… R O T F L M G D A O !
August 10th, 2007 at 10:10 amWho among us is surprised that a Republican would be an ignorant, hateful, antiAmerican bigot? Who among us doesn’t want to see the GOP destroyed and outlawed? this guy is just the tip of the iceberg, and should be targeted for total defeat and humiliation. He should run for president of North Korea, although they might find him a bit extreme.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:12 amAnother dimwitted rightwinger wiping his backside with the Constitution…what else is new?
August 10th, 2007 at 10:13 amSali is a card-carrying member of the American Taliban.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:13 amThe day can’t arrive soon enough when white men are in the minority, and I say that as a white man, albeit with a touch of Native American blood from way back.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:13 amBen Franklin was one of the main Founding Fathers.
Ben Franklin helped build a house of worship in PA…
This is what he had to say about that building and its purpose…
“Both house and ground were vested in trustees, expressly for the use of any preacher of any religious persuasion who might desire to say something to the people at Philadelphia; the design in building not being to accommodate any particular sect, but the inhabitants in general; so that even if the Mufti of Constantinople were to send a missionary to preach Mohammedanism to us, he would find a pulpit at his service. ”
-Ben Franklin
http://www.pioneernet.net/ rbrannan/ whitefield/ bfongw.htm
The great thinkers of early America were not rightwing nut jobs… they were theists and unitarians … they were not far removed from the times of christianity being violent and deadly and abusive much more so than today…
August 10th, 2007 at 10:16 amEurope did not start its Renaissance and acceleration in all fields of science until it was able to put limits on church’s involvement in Europeans political life.
Only after the power of church in Europe was reduced,Europe was able to flourish in all fields of science,art and general knowledge.
United States decided also not to let the church run the political life in America.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:16 amBut the church is getting stronger and richer now and the church again started to meddle in political life in America.
The future of this country will not be bright if church people gradually are allowed to rule again.
History speaks volumes about mixing religion and ploitics.
A country as diverse as hours ,must not let this happen.
Currently our main problem is a minority of white men, they occupy the Executive branch.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:17 amThank you Idaho for another potato head in Congress. Keep praying for the Rapture. Look over there! There it is! My bad it was Pastor Hagee.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:18 amWho among us doesn’t want to see the GOP destroyed and outlawed?
Outlawed? So much for free speech in America, compliments of ronjazz(D).
Even the nazis and the communists have a say here, even if their constituencies are miniscule.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:19 amPro-Muslim domination in the U.S., endorsed by the left.
While you lefties claim to rail against Nazis, you sure are good at employing many of their tactics to scapegoat a current generation.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:20 amWhy did Ben Franklin hate America so?
Hey everybody, the Freedom Fries are on me!
August 10th, 2007 at 10:20 amOh my, it’s a republican saying this. I simply can’t believe it!
August 10th, 2007 at 10:21 amHe, but for the luck of the draw, is the “Devil’s Advocate”. Satan will have him standing on his head in the shitroom.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:21 amPro-Muslim domination in the U.S., endorsed by the left.
While you lefties claim to rail against Nazis, you sure are good at employing many of their tactics to scapegoat a current generation.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 10, 2007 @ 10:20 am
Not true. This is a dishonest, irrational comment.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:21 amComment by CT_Version 2
No scapegoating needed. You brought it on yourselves… you murdered Iraqis just because they are muslims and your bigoted views show your ugly sould everyday. I grew up on the evangelical church … they think they are mini-israelis first and Americans second… dont trust them… they may not want to kill you… but they will look the other way while the more violent among them do…
August 10th, 2007 at 10:22 amGreat post’s all…Blessings
August 10th, 2007 at 10:22 amPro-Muslim domination in the U.S., endorsed by the left.
What the hell are you talking about, pant-load? What pro-Muslim domination? What are you so afraid of that you have to scapegoat all Muslims and/or all liberals?
August 10th, 2007 at 10:23 amLeave it to the left to mingle with what their minority ass*s don’t like. But if others don’t like what they bring to the table, they can “take it or leave it,” or “leave the country.”
Typical lefty: “Hey, we’re in the Minority! Since we’re self-hating baiters, we should tinker with the demographics to create our own communist utopia!!”
August 10th, 2007 at 10:24 amAny idiot with a public school education knows that a key priniciple this country was founded on, and that was a prominent focus of the founding fathers, was FREEDOM FROM RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION.
Still smarting from the penal mother church of englands harsh and punative dogma, the founding fathers were careful to include laws prohibiting a state religion.
Now, 200 years later, and after generations of inbreeding, the right wing has produced this festering carbunkle on the ass of democracy, who like so many of his brethern, think THEIR religion, is the STATE religion.
The RNC is as far from the framers as they can be.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:24 amHow can the left possibly be in favor of a religion that supresses women’s rights? I say that’s a little more pentacostal and evangelical parallel endorsed by the right, sans the burka.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:25 amHe’s a Pharisee. His is a vision of a divided, broken America. Wow what a loon.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:27 amComment by Gerald Gibson — August 10, 2007 @ 10:22 am
The use of the word “you” makes your argument fall apart in its first sentence.
May want to try again. Clearly, you lefties are scapegoating. There’s plenty of dirt on you idiots waiting to be uncovered, I’m sure of it.
For the record, Iraqis are mostly killing innocent Iraqis. Those roadside bombs haven’t been in short supply, huh lefty? Get your story straight. Stop blaming U.S. forces.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:28 amOnly after the power of church in Europe was reduced,Europe was able to flourish in all fields of science,art and general knowledge.
Uhh, not quite. The Ren was more a shift away from medieval religious practice but it certainly didnt abandon religion nor seek its diminuation.
Many of the Ren’s greatest works of art were dedicated to Christianity; the papacy and the church patronized many of them. One only needs to take a look at the spectacular ceiling of the Sistine Chapel to understand.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:28 amThese types are always the first to scream that the “secular left” is trying to force religion out of the public sphere. Of course, what they want is religious uniformity, under their religion.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:29 amFrom the link:http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment01/01.html
[Footnote 5] During House debate, Madison told his fellow Members that ”he apprehended the meaning of the words to be, that Congress should not establish a religion, and enforce the legal observation of it by law, nor compel men to worship God in any Manner contrary to their conscience.” 1 Annals of Congress 730 (August 15, 1789). That his conception of ”establishment” was quite broad is revealed in his veto as President in 1811 of a bill which in granting land reserved a parcel for a Baptist Church in Salem, Mississippi; the action, explained President Madison, ”comprises a principle and precedent for the appropriation of funds of the United States for the use and support of religious societies, contrary to the article of the Constitution which declares that ‘Congress shall make no law respecting a religious establishment.”’ 8 The Writings of James Madison (G. Hunt. ed.) 132-33 (1904). Madison’s views were no doubt influenced by the fight in the Virginia legislature in 1784-1785 in which he successfully led the opposition to a tax to support teachers of religion in Virginia and in the course of which he drafted his ”Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments” setting forth his thoughts. Id. at 183-91; I. Brant, James Madison–The Nationalist 1780-1787, 343-55 (1948). Acting on the momentum of this effort, Madison secured passage of Jefferson’s ”Bill for Religious Liberty”. Id. at 354; D. Malone, Jefferson the Virginian 274-280 (1948). The theme of the writings of both was that it was wrong to offer public support of any religion in particular or of religion in general.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:29 amPity that Thinkprogress has driven some posters away by their lack of policing their site. If Zooey wasn’t being stalked, she might have been around to comment on this dirtbag.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 10, 2007 @ 10:07 am
?!?!?!??!?!!?!?
That’s awful!!
WTF?
It’s been a couple of days since i’ve been on last.what’s going on?
Oh, and Bill Sali is a douchebag.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:30 amDrink up the kool aid. Breath in the stench of ignorance. Fear courses thru the veins of the small minded. The republic may already be lost.
I guess the quote “I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it” no longer pertains to this country.
This is the road the fear mongers are driving down. It’s a dark, one way road that doesn’t lead to prosperity or the promise land. It leads to the destruction of this country.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:30 amComment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 10, 2007 @ 10:21 am
Yours was a baseless, hollow claim. A typical lefty-in-denial stance.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:30 amComment by the fly-man
I am not in favor of ANY religion. They all have bad points and good points, but none are logical or reasoned. The bible praises ethnic cleansing and mass murder but I dont hold that against them any MORE than I hold the views of muslims about women against them… it is THEIR religion and they have the “unalienable right” to believe that crazy crap if they so choose EQUALLY as much as do the christians in their crazy crap… ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL… real simple… would I suppress women? No… but that doesnt give me the right to force others to be just like me… some people just dont understand the American Way.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:30 amHow can the left possibly be in favor of a religion that supresses women’s rights? I say that’s a little more pentacostal and evangelical parallel endorsed by the right, sans the burka.
Comment by the Lie-man — August 10, 2007 @ 10:25 am
Ahh, another result of decades of inbreeding.
This moron, like so many of the nazi-like right wing, can’t get his tiny, inbred brain, around the concept of religious diversity.
To him, tolerating opposing beliefs means endorsing them.
He is a prime example of why brothers and sisters shouldn’t make babies.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:31 amIn any manner contrary to their conscience… how unequivocal is that?
August 10th, 2007 at 10:32 amI’m sure of it.
Comment by CT_Version 2
That your problem… you are not a reasoned thinker like the Founding Fathers.. you are SURE of things without proof… just like Iraq.
For the record, Iraqis are mostly killing innocent Iraqis. Those roadside bombs haven’t been in short supply, huh lefty? Get your story straight. Stop blaming U.S. forces.
Comment by CT_Version 2
Whos blaming the soldiers? They didnt buy plane tickets over there… you asses sent them there… it is YOUR fault … it is YOU who murdered.. you simply used the loyalty of the soldiers to our Flag and Constitution to do it… they are the gun and you are the trigger puller that sent them there.. I blame YOU.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:33 amHe is a prime example of why brothers and sisters shouldn’t make babies.
As are you.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:34 amMany of the Ren’s greatest works of art were dedicated to Christianity; the papacy and the church patronized many of them. One only needs to take a look at the spectacular ceiling of the Sistine Chapel to understand.
Comment by StarHopper
You dont know much about history do you? Back then you had 2 choices… your art was christian.. or you die… pretty simple aye? You make non-christian art you die… you say that the world is not flat and spins around the sun and you die… see christianity was all about freedom… do what we say or die… you get choice…
August 10th, 2007 at 10:35 amStop blaming U.S. forces.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 10, 2007 @ 10:28 am
Another moron who can’t tell the difference between condeming him and the rubes in power, from condeming US forces.
Or who doesn’t WANT to tell the difference.
Either way, he’s just another turd in the tank. Wipe your bum of the residue, then flush him, with the rest of the floaters.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:35 amCT…are you the POTUS? I had no idea! Congrats!
Ignore Gerald, he hates himself and the troops.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:36 amFor the record, Iraqis are mostly killing innocent Iraqis. Those roadside bombs haven’t been in short supply, huh lefty? Get your story straight. Stop blaming U.S. forces.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 10, 2007 @ 10:28 am
For the record, none of that was happening until the Bush illegal, hateful, stupid invasion and occupation of a country that was no threat to us. You are one stupid troll.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:36 amFirst entry — “Anyone one up for a mustache ride?”
August 10th, 2007 at 10:36 amCaption:
“I just ate a wolf burger with fries.”
August 10th, 2007 at 10:37 ama religion that surpresses women’s rights? what do you have against christianity, fly-man?
August 10th, 2007 at 10:38 amYou dont know much about history do you? Back then you had 2 choices… your art was christian.. or you die… pretty simple aye? You make non-christian art you die… you say that the world is not flat and spins around the sun and you die… see christianity was all about freedom… do what we say or die… you get choice…
Hehehehehe…which would then prove my point about the Rennaissance NOT being completely secular in nature, as the poster Tarazan tried to imply.
Youre not very good at this are you?
August 10th, 2007 at 10:40 amFor 200 years inbred nazi-like scum like these have been trying to overturn the democracy of America, and institute theocratic martial law.
For 200 years inbred nazi-like scum like these, have sought to invade foriegn nations, remove rights and liberties established in our constitution, and turn America into an inbred totalitarian hell, making all Americans, as miserable as themselves.
Fortunately, only a small percentage of the country endorses sibling copulation, and they still represent a small, albeit vocal minority in our country. How one got elected, is beyond me, but one things for sure. It’ll be a cold day in hell before it happens again.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:40 amComment by Gerald Gibson — August 10, 2007 @ 10:33 am
Dear Lefty,
You tend to be a little slow.
You are a demographic-obsessed crazed lefty who cares a little too much about the welfare of terrorist nations over this nation’s domestic priorities.
You are claiming that our ethical and brave military forces kill innocent Iraqis. I’m not the one with the gun in my hand, nor am I the one in the aviator’s seat, so you couldn’t be referring to me. Your accusations are therefore fundamentally baseless and are disrespectful towards our forces. Don’t slander the troops.
Second notice: Drop the use of the word “you”. And don’t insult the forces, either.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:40 amCaption Contest:
“I’ll paint any car for $99.95!”
:D
August 10th, 2007 at 10:41 amHehehehehe…which would then prove my point about the Rennaissance NOT being completely secular in nature, as the poster Tarazan tried to imply.
Youre not very good at this are you?
Comment by StarHopper — August 10, 2007 @ 10:40 am
Your conflation of art and politics shows that you are not very good at this. Typical of you to move the goalposts, though, and entirely predictable.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:42 amWhat the hell are you talking about, pant-load? What pro-Muslim domination? What are you so afraid of that you have to scapegoat all Muslims and/or all liberals?
Comment by Tom — August 10, 2007 @ 10:23 am
He’s a bigot. Sure, it’s harder to recognize him without the white robe and the burning cross, but he’s just an old-school bigot finding a new minority to pick on. They got tired of bashing blacks and gays, so they moved on to Muslims. After they’re done with Muslims, they’ll move on to Hindus.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:42 amWho among us is surprised that a Republican would be an ignorant, hateful, antiAmerican bigot? Who among us doesn’t want to see the GOP destroyed and outlawed? this guy is just the tip of the iceberg, and should be targeted for total defeat and humiliation. He should run for president of North Korea, although they might find him a bit extreme.
Comment by ronjazz — August 10, 2007 @ 10:12 am
I’m not surprised that a Republican would be an ignorant, hateful, anti-American bigot. We seem to have our share of those, and sadly many of them are Republicans.
But please don’t count me among those who would want to see the Republican Party destroyed. Having only two major parties is bad enough — a one-party system in this country would be a step closer to fascism, no matter which party it is.
I would like to see the Republican Party go back to the fiscal conservative values it once had. I would like to see it return to cherishing personal freedoms. I would like to see it step away from evangelicals who want to tell Americans what they can do in their bedrooms. And I would like to see it step away from “borrow and spend” economics.
If the GOP can return to the party of Barry Goldwater, it could be a balanced Yin to the Democratic Yang. Each party could check the other, allowing the best ideas of both to flourish.
(time for my reality medication now)
August 10th, 2007 at 10:43 amTypical lefty: “Hey, we’re in the Minority! Since we’re self-hating baiters, we should tinker with the demographics to create our own communist utopia!!â€
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 10, 2007 @ 10:24 am
Typical Republican: “Hey, we can only hold exploit people if everyone hates each other, we should tinker with the constitution to create our own Balkan Hell!!!”
August 10th, 2007 at 10:43 amFor the record, none of that was happening until the Bush illegal, hateful, stupid invasion and occupation of a country that was no threat to us. You are one stupid troll.
Guess we could say the same for Afghanistan, a war the left loves to parade as proof of their willingness to use military force.
Of course we need to remember that the libs just love the Iraqis today, a few years back….not so much. Dead Iraqis werent useful as a political tool when Saddam was busy digging his mass graves.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:44 amThis guy is way off the mark.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:47 amCT_Version_2 needs remedial reading courses. Our “ethical and moral” troops murdered whole villages of women and children in Viet Nam, and have murdered wedding parties in Iraq. You and your treasonous GOP have sent those troops into a hell on earth, and the troops’ AND the insurgents’ murderous behavior falls on you falls on YOU. None of this was happening before YOU, in your ignorance, let Bushco lie YOU into losing three wars.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:47 amDead Iraqis werent useful as a political tool when Saddam was busy digging his mass graves.
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird — August 10, 2007 @ 10:44 am
Nor was it a concern of Reagan administration, since they were too busy giving Saddam money to kill them, and the Iranians.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:47 amWhat ever happened to separation of church and state?
That was put there by the founding fathers and is being ignored by the religious right today.
My religion is my business, just as yours is yours.
It’s sick how these dirtbags are taking over the country and aren’t slammed for making these kinds of comments. That proves the state our country is in. And it’s not a good state to be in, either, IMHO.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:47 amAll elected government officials should have to take a test on the constitution.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:48 amAmerican Wahabbism.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:49 amWhatever religion Sali belongs to is the wrong one and he’s going to burn in Hell for it.
And Daryll along with him.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:51 amMy religion is my business, just as yours is yours.
Comment by MsJ — August 10, 2007 @ 10:47 am
Which any school kid knows was a founding prinicple of our constitution.
Its a simple concept, and anyone, and I do mean ANYONE with a normal brain gets it.
But then theres the neocon.
Inbred. Illiterate. Lovers of blood, murder and all manner of abomination performed in the name of their god.
To them, that phrase is as foriegn and obscure as their own paternity.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:51 amYou are a demographic-obsessed crazed lefty who cares a little too much about the welfare of terrorist nations over this nation’s domestic priorities.
Second notice: Drop the use of the word “youâ€. And don’t insult the forces, either.
Comment by CT_Boredom 2 — August 10, 2007 @ 10:40 am
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Of course we need to remember that the libs just love the Iraqis today, a few years back….not so much. Dead Iraqis werent useful as a political tool when Saddam was busy digging his mass graves.
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird — August 10, 2007 @ 10:44 am
More goalpost moving from the ignorant wingnuts. Republicans armed and funded Saddam, and looked away when he predictably went haywire. And the Republicans have lied on a daily basis about freeing Iraqis while they bomb and shoot them. “Shock And Awe” is one of the most embarrassing and revealing phrases ever invented by a sick, perverted, power-mad group of fascists, and they will live in infamy for it. Those who support them have abandoned American principles and ideals, and are ignorant hypocrites at best, and seditious traitors at worst. Take your pick, those are the options for chickenhawk enablers of mass murder.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:51 amThe marriage of the republican party to the evangelicals of America had nothing to do with Christianity or morals. They knowingly used each other, mostly for greed and power. The leaders of the fake churches like PTL have dozens of houses and millions of dollars and dine on $200.00 meals while others die of hunger.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:52 amNor was it a concern of Reagan administration, since they were too busy giving Saddam money to kill them, and the Iranians.
Comment by Krazny — August 10, 2007 @ 10:47 am
They were pretty useful when George Abu George called on the Shi’ites to rise up and overthrow Saddam when our troops were retreating from Iraq in 1991.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:52 amAmerican Wahabbism.
Comment by Juan C — August 10, 2007 @ 10:49 am
Yup. It’s the heart and soul of the Republican al-Qa’ida.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:53 am#29 fly-man
[ how can the left possibly be in favor of a religion that supresses women’s rights?]
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you are uninformed and lacks the necessary knoweldge,with Hollywood molded brains and mentality.
Pakistan, a Moslem country (220 millions)elected a woman as a prime minister and her party is the largest party in Pakistan Parliament.
Indonesia,the most populous Moslem country also (250 MILLIONS) also elected a woman as president. In fact she visited the White House 2 years ago.
Bangladesh a large Moslem populated country also elected a woman to be their prime minister…
Moslems women participate in all aspects of life in Moslem countries,from teaching to nursing,to politics….and business.
Did you ever travel outside USA?
You just rely on Fox network,Coulter,Hannity and Rush Limbaugh…To feed you with garbage news and in the process you surredered your brains.
Yes, there is Burka…but only in Afghanstan and some backward poor societies,but that’s not the majority..these people do not even represent 5% of total Moslem population.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:54 amGo and read before you make such statements..
“Pro-Muslim domination in the U.S., endorsed by the left.
While you lefties claim to rail against Nazis, you sure are good at employing many of their tactics to scapegoat a current generation.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 10, 2007 @ 10:20 am”
Right on the money. Liberals preach diversity, but the diversity is only acceptable if it is in total agreement with them.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:55 amGuess we could say the same for Afghanistan, a war the left loves to parade as proof of their willingness to use military force.
Comment by Petty Petty Bird — August 10, 2007 @ 10:44 am
No. World War II covered that bridge hayseed.
We don’t need to “prove” our willingness to use force to goosestepping bootlickers like you and your scum. Using force is easy. Its the first refuge of the fool and the criminal, which explains why writhing demonic worms like yourself, are always tauting it. You worship pain, blood and death, and serve your father the devil, as he carefully leads you, and those dumb enough to follow you, down to hell.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:56 amTo them, that phrase is as foriegn and obscure as their own paternity.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
ROTFL!!!
August 10th, 2007 at 10:56 amRep. Sali is a true holy man and based on his votes in the house has proven that he is a huge political asset to the state of Ohio and our country. George Washington and other did not want hindu, muslim, or any other prayers practiced within the House and Senate except for prayers to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Libs, emulate Rep. Sali
August 10th, 2007 at 10:57 amPoor Zooey, this clown is her representative.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:57 amNo representation without understanding the Constitution!
Rep. Sali is a true holy man and based on his votes in the house has proven that he is a huge political asset to the state of Ohio
Uhhhh, Idaho, dumbshit.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:57 amMost of the North African countries are Muslim, and have a relaxed view of women’s rights. Egypt is constantly fighting the extremists who wish to impose the fundamentalist views. similar to the middle of the road US citizens who don’t wish to see an evangelical Christian theology in the US.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:58 amArgue with CT and get a headache. CT has a pogo stick for debate tactics and doesn’t stick to any one subject longer than the avg. ADD sufferer.
The subject content is religion and the fear of different religions being projected from Mr. Sali.
Care to comment on this subject CT?
August 10th, 2007 at 10:58 amUhhhh, Idaho, dumbshit.
Comment by RUCerious — August 10, 2007 @ 10:57 am
Don’t he is on a roll
August 10th, 2007 at 10:59 amGeorge Washington and other …?
Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting “Jesus Christ,” so that it would read “A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;” the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.
-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom
So, Daryll darling, would the other include Jefferson, or not???
August 10th, 2007 at 10:59 amComment by ronjazz — August 10, 2007 @ 10:47 am
That’s nice, a lefty in need of propaganda-reduction surgery.
CT_Version_2 needs remedial reading courses. Our “ethical and moral†troops murdered whole villages of women and children in Viet Nam, and have murdered wedding parties in Iraq. You and your treasonous GOP have sent those troops into a hell on earth, and the troops’ AND the insurgents’ murderous behavior falls on you falls on YOU. None of this was happening before YOU, in your ignorance, let Bushco lie YOU into losing three wars.
Another “argument” that falls apart in its first sentence. Really, this idiot’s irrational comments is like the grease tray after grilling up six hamburgers.
Can you justify “YOU”? Links?
Are you quoting the Hippie Propaganda Regiment from Vietnam? What relation does Vietnam bear, precisely?
Do you know what treason stands for? Can you justify the lefty overuse of that word?
Would “Bushco” belong in a term paper?
Thanks for your troop bashing. Hey, I can only quote you.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:00 amHow are women doing in the islamic heartland, tarazan?
You would think that all those forward-thinking muslims might want the land of Mecca to be a little more lenient towards their females, guess not.
I wonder if Gwen Stefani will get arrested in Malaysia if she dares to show more than an ankle or a wrist during her concert?
August 10th, 2007 at 11:00 amSince this idiot rep has sworn to uphold the constitution, someone needs to send him a copy. I hope someone on his staff can read.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:00 amRight on the money. Liberals preach diversity, but the diversity is only acceptable if it is in total agreement with them.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 10, 2007 @ 10:55 am
Wrong, moron. It’s only acceptable if it’s DIVERSE. Unlike you bigots, we don’t define diversity of religion as “all the flavors of Protestant Christianity.”
August 10th, 2007 at 11:00 amSorry Kraz, came in late, just astounded by the hypocrite’s lack of fundamental reading and comprehension skills.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:00 amtest
August 10th, 2007 at 11:00 amLooks like Sali’s been hanging out with Rep. Goode from VA. Both of them are as ignorant as the day is long.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:01 amThank you Idaho for another potato head in Congress. Keep praying for the Rapture. Look over there! There it is! My bad it was Pastor Hagee.
Comment by michael — August 10, 2007 @ 10:18 am
Be careful about making negative comments about Pastor Hagee. He is a man of God.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:01 amMr. Bigfoot. you couldn’t be more wrong. This thread is about the ignorance of Mr. Sali and his religious intolerance. The “left” is pointing it out.
You woke up on the wrong side of the argument again.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:01 amWORD PRESS SUCKS
August 10th, 2007 at 11:02 amYou are claiming that our ethical and brave military forces kill innocent Iraqis.
But they are and have been: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ news/ main.jhtml?xml=/ news/ 2006/ 03/ 12/ nsas12.xml
And in Afghanistan too: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/article2331981.ece
So much so, the other coalition forces threw the US out of the area recently; http://www.iht.com/ articles/ 2007/ 08/ 08/ news/ casualties.php
All the gear and no idea.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:03 amRight on the money. Liberals preach diversity, but the diversity is only acceptable if it is in total agreement with them.
Comment by O. Bigfootfetish — August 10, 2007 @ 10:55 am
Restless sleep?
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Common side effects are headache, and dry mouth.
Rep. Sali is a true holy man and based on his votes in the house has proven that he is a huge political asset to the state of Ohio and our country. George Washington and other did not want hindu, muslim, or any other prayers practiced within the House and Senate except for prayers to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Comment by Carroll — August 10, 2007 @ 10:57 am
Sali is a pussfilled sack of filth who’s mouth releases an endless flow of festering fecal matter that you, and the pathetic bootlicking goosestepping worms like you, gobble up as fast as he can puke it up.
Lick it up worm.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:03 amComment by DRxJ — August 10, 2007 @ 11:03 am
Not any kind of effective response, sir.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:04 amRUC, these clowns quote the bible when it suits them, they quote the founding fathers when it suits them, they quote the constitution when it suits them (usually out of context and incompletely).
It’s a great way to make your case with absolute bull$#it. Oh, but what a sound bite!
August 10th, 2007 at 11:04 amGeorge Washington and other did not want hindu, muslim, or any other prayers practiced within the House and Senate except for prayers to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Libs, emulate Rep. Sali
Comment by ParoDaryll — August 10, 2007 @ 10:57 am
Link please.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:04 am…and whose this “other” you speak of???
CAPTION CONTEST
“Are YOU paying too much for car insurance?”
August 10th, 2007 at 11:04 amOne more time.
Caption Contest: “I’ll paint any car for $99.95!”
August 10th, 2007 at 11:04 amComment by CT_Version 2
YOU murdered our soldiers by sending them to fight and die not for defense of America but for the Iraqi PNAC plan from the 1990s.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:05 amComment by CT_Version 2
YOU murdered the Iraqis by sending our military into their country and busting up the society they had. Maybe it was not a society as good as America but that wasnt any of our business.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:05 amSt Darryl - you mean this Pastor Hagee?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ max-blumenthal/ aipac-cheers-an-antisemi_b_43377.html
If blaming the Jews for their own holocaust makes you a man of God, well that’s just dandy, eh?
August 10th, 2007 at 11:05 amCAPTION CONTEST
“Are YOU paying too much for car insurance?â€
Comment by whiteyfresh — August 10, 2007 @ 11:04 am
One more time.
Caption Contest: “I’ll paint any car for $99.95!â€
Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 10, 2007 @ 11:04 am
what can I say..
August 10th, 2007 at 11:06 amThis guy looks like he would be involved in cars ONE way or another…
Comment by CT_Version 2
YOU voted in people that did this. YOU pulled the trigger personally and caused all these deaths. Soldiers are not the trigger pullers. They are not in the position to make those decisions in America the civilians are… that means YOU. YOU pulled the trigger and then soldiers are the executors of that action not the deciders… THE DECIDER … who you elected… is to be blamed.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:06 amI agree with Sali. We should not allow Mormons in Congress, as the founding fathers obviously never envisioned that.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:06 am/snark
Rep. Sali is a true holy man and based on his votes in the house has proven that he is a huge political asset to the state of Ohio
Uhhhh, Idaho, dumbshit.
Comment by RUCerious — August 10, 2007 @ 10:57 am
I apologize. I was thinking of my friend, Rep. Kevin Bacon (R). He’s another Representative who has proven his loyalty to his state and country.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:07 amurg….
day off from work….
mustn’t..
hit…
bong…
must..
be…
PRODUCTIVE!!!
August 10th, 2007 at 11:07 amAh, looks like the troll has shifted personalities again, into the form of Daryll.
Men of God are still men, subjected to the moral failings of men. How quick does Daryll forget Reverend Haggard, the man who was caught with some gay prostitute and a bunch of meth. He is a “Man of God” too…a flawed man who exposed the hypocracy of Daryll’s group. If people like him exist, I feel free to criticize any so-called ‘Man of God’. Daryll focuses on the ‘of God’ part, and we realists focus on the ‘Man’ part.
Do as I say, not as I do. Sex with gay prostitutes is wrong unless I’m doing it, then it’s a private matter. You’re all going to hell, but I can do no wrong. And I should have a monopoly of the Religious discourse in American Society.
No thanks. Sali can go spend a quality afternoon with Haggard and Foley and check out tight butts of 17 year old boys for all I care. His opinion, much like Daryll’s, ain’t worth a pile of cat dung.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:07 amComment by CT_Version 2
YOU.
Be a man and take responsibility for YOUR actions. You dont see soldiers squirming away from it… they were given orders and they carried them out just as they swore on the Constitution to do…
YOU did this.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:07 amOur “ethical and moral†troops murdered whole villages of women and children in Viet Nam, and have murdered wedding parties in Iraq.
Slanderous, hyperbole and you know it. Yes there were some “murders” committed by our troops in Vietnam and Iraq, also in every other country our troops have been with perhaps the exception of the smaller operations, but thats it. Emphasis on the word “some”.
No nation can claim moral superiority on this point and trying to pin a broad-brush accusation of murder on the entire military is baseless.
The United States has the most powerful military ever to walk the earth, if we REALLY wanted to ‘intentionally’ murder civilians there arent enough backhoes in the world to dig the mass graves fast enough.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:08 amwell,maybe once..
:D
August 10th, 2007 at 11:08 amAnother “argument†that falls apart in its first sentence. Really, this idiot’s irrational comments is like the grease tray after grilling up six hamburgers.
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August 10th, 2007 at 11:08 amI wonder what religion Sali is hiding behind? What fake-based ministry does he support, or supports him? Could he show up on a D.C. madam’s call list?
August 10th, 2007 at 11:08 amCaption Contest: “we slow roast our chicken and hand shuck every ear of corn.”
August 10th, 2007 at 11:09 amCaption Contest: “Do you have what it takes to join our Wal-Mart family?“
August 10th, 2007 at 11:10 amI agree with Sali. We should not allow Mormons in Congress, as the founding fathers obviously never envisioned that.
Or the senate. Harry Reid, clean out your office.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:10 amI had dinner with Jesus last night, and I tell you he is pretty pissed at the abuse of his name by the intolerant rednecks. He was especially pissed at Bush’s blaming Iraq on Him. “I never told that dumb f*ck to invade Iraq! Bush is flat out lying to you people. I am going to rip his eyes out and skull f*ck that idiot.”
I know what you are thinking, and it surprised me too, but Jesus hogged the second bottle of wine and was three sheets to the wind.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:11 amCaption Contest:”I’m getting a blow job right now, and I’m Loving it!”
August 10th, 2007 at 11:12 amComment by toasterhead — August 10, 2007 @ 11:00 am
Wrong. The obsession with lefties is that it’s only diverse if whites/christians are in the minority. This is evident with the left’s constant berating of christianity and openness to the dominance of muslim religions in the U.S., even after we suffered a brutal terrorist attack at the hands of them.
Tell me, why the sudden obsession with “religious diversity” and “Muslim immigration” after we were attacked? Timing is a little bad and makes you look weak, don’t you think?
The left seems to be the Nazis of our time. They rail against the Nazis of the past, while being the current ones.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:12 amCaption Contest: “Im guaranteed to make liberals start frothing about ‘The American Taliban’.”
August 10th, 2007 at 11:12 am***snerk***
August 10th, 2007 at 11:13 amThe left seems to be the Nazis of our time. They rail against the Nazis of the past, while being the current ones.
Comment by CT_Vertigo 2 — August 10, 2007 @ 11:12 am
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No nation can claim moral superiority on this point and trying to pin a broad-brush accusation of murder on the entire military is baseless.
The United States has the most powerful military ever to walk the earth, if we REALLY wanted to ‘intentionally’ murder civilians there arent enough backhoes in the world to dig the mass graves fast enough.
Comment by NameHopper — August 10, 2007 @ 11:08 am
Notice the right wing wimps can’t defeat any argument we actually make, so they are left with inventing words for us, and positions, and then debating themselves on the things THEY said, attributing them to us.
No one blames the military, and anyone other than this inbred (means your mom and dad were brother and sister) wimp knows its the President, and the PIGS who support him, that we blame.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:14 amThe left seems to be the Nazis of our time. They rail against the Nazis of the past, while being the current ones.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 10, 2007 @ 11:12 am
The only people I see who seem to be enjoying bombing the $hit out of brown people are the people in the White House….
August 10th, 2007 at 11:15 amNanlichi is enjoying his new job as the inspiration for: “This is your brain on drugs”.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:15 amNanlichi is enjoying his new job as the inspiration for: “This is your brain on drugsâ€.
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird — August 10, 2007 @ 11:15 am
Nanlichi is an egg?
who knew…
August 10th, 2007 at 11:16 amCaption Contest; “Stay regular with Exlax”
August 10th, 2007 at 11:17 amwe REALLY wanted to ‘intentionally’ murder civilians there arent enough backhoes in the world to dig the mass graves fast enough.
Comment by StarHopper — August 10, 2007 @ 11:08 am
Actually there was an ‘EternalMarine’ a few days ago who showed up pon a thread who was up for it. He said that we should take the TV crews away and give them six weeks to ‘win the war’. He said we wouldn’t ‘like how we did it’.
He is probably one of the 50% or so of GIs/Marines who raised their hands in this discussion a regular Army LTC had on Alterman a while ago: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12915283/
That’s a lot of US soldiers (if this example is representative) who think shooting prisoners is OK to get information from the others.
The moral compass of your young men and women is not as straight as you think - put young people in stress like that, and eventually they become desensitized and join in. Its inevitable. And couple that with rules of engagement like the SAS man talks about and well, no wonder the Iraqis think that attacks on the US soldiers are justified.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:17 amI had dinner with Jesus last night, and I tell you he is pretty pissed at the abuse of his name by the intolerant rednecks. He was especially pissed at Bush’s blaming Iraq on Him. “I never told that dumb f*ck to invade Iraq! Bush is flat out lying to you people. I am going to rip his eyes out and skull f*ck that idiot.â€
I know what you are thinking, and it surprised me too, but Jesus hogged the second bottle of wine and was three sheets to the wind.
Comment by nanlichi — August 10, 2007 @ 11:11 am
BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!
August 10th, 2007 at 11:18 amSorry, SAS man discusses US rule-of-engagement here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ news/ main.jhtml?xml=/ news/ 2006/ 03/ 12/ nsas12.xml
August 10th, 2007 at 11:19 am“Both house and ground were vested in trustees, expressly for the use of any preacher of any religious persuasion who might desire to say something to the people at Philadelphia; the design in building not being to accommodate any particular sect, but the inhabitants in general; so that even if the Mufti of Constantinople were to send a missionary to preach Mohammedanism to us, he would find a pulpit at his service. â€
-Ben Franklin
http://www.pioneernet.net/ rbrannan/ whitefield/ bfongw.htm
August 10th, 2007 at 11:19 amThat’s it TP. My last post has gone into the ether. I’ll not post or visit here again. C&L, HP, and FDL are far more reliable. Good luck to my fellow liberal posters. Keep the faith.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:19 am“No nation can claim moral superiority on this point and trying to pin a broad-brush accusation of murder on the entire military is baseless.
The United States has the most powerful military ever to walk the earth, if we REALLY wanted to ‘intentionally’ murder civilians there arent enough backhoes in the world to dig the mass graves fast enough.”
Comment by StarHopper — August 10, 2007 @ 11:08 am
“No nation can claim moral superiority on this point…” Baloney. That’s what you get when you start a war of choice, with no real moral imperative. We don’t need to actively commit genocide - a few instances of killed innocents referred to as “collateral damage” is all it takes to cement the image of US soldiers as remorseless murderers. That’s why wars of choice do so much damage to our soldiers’ credibility, and to their ability to win “hearts and minds.”
August 10th, 2007 at 11:20 amCaption Contest:
Meet Bill. Bill is enjoying the extra lift he gets from male enhancement supplements.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:20 amApparently, the boys at QC should have kept the version 2 firmware for CompuTROLLer for more testing and revision, because it’s as flawed as Version 1. Kind of like the Apple iPhone’s flawed firmware, they should have kept it in R&D, yaknow?
I’ve not heard a single thing saying that Leftists want Christianity in the minority, nor have I heard a single thing that Leftists want Muslim as the national religion of the USA. In fact, I was under the impression that Leftists wanted there to be freedom of religion, as well as freedom FROM religion…you know, to be able to worship as I please, to whom I please, and if I so please, to nobody at all? If I want to worship God through his son Jesus, I should be allowed to. If I want to worship Allah through his prophet Mohammed, I should be allowed to. If I want to worship Yahweh (I guess that’s how that’s spelled) through his prophet Moses and the others spoken of in the Torah, I should be allowed to. If I believe that I am a fragment of a sentient Universe, imbued with an aspect of the divine, I should be allowed to. If I wish to believe that I am part of the Living Planet, born of the Lifestream, living, then when I die, my soul returning to the Lifestream, then let me walk around with my soft glowing green eyes, hearing the Voice of the Planet, and doing my best to protect that Planet. The only requirement? That you be allowed to believe as you wish, and neither of our beliefs take away rights belonging to others. Freedom of religion, b!tch.
But with his flawed firmware, CT_V2 still can’t understand this. It sucks when the people who are doing your development are Indians payed $2 bucks an hour…
August 10th, 2007 at 11:20 amIf this is such a problem with Hindu prayers and Muslim prayers and Wika Eartmother Goddess prayers, maybe the Senate should just eliminate this ritual entirely.
We sent these guys to Washington to do the business of the people, not the business of Jesus, Ganesh, Allah, Satan, Zeus and company.
As long as the First Amendment protects the free exercise of religion, the job of congress concerning religion is done.
Multicultural prayers before Senate Sessions sounds about as spiritual as throwing the first pitch at a ball game.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:21 amMARCUS!!!
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo………
*poof*
August 10th, 2007 at 11:22 amBLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!
Comment by Daryll
Exactly what used to be screamed by the christians whenever someone made non christian art or science or politics or anything else…
August 10th, 2007 at 11:22 amwe REALLY wanted to ‘intentionally’ murder civilians there arent enough backhoes in the world to dig the mass graves fast enough.
Comment by TurdHopper — August 10, 2007 @ 11:08 am
And there isn’t enough backhoes in the world to dig a hole big enough for us to crawl in and hide in once we’re done.
While I realize you’ve never strayed too far from the trailer park, theres whole other nations out there, with massive firepower and million man armies. Firepower that combined, dwarfs ours in comparison.
I said this last night, and I’ll say it again. The funny thing about being a bully, is when the rest of the kids have had enough of a bully, they all gang up, and whoop the bejesus out of him.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:23 amNo one blames the military, and anyone other than this inbred (means your mom and dad were brother and sister) wimp knows its the President, and the PIGS who support him, that we blame.
You have a curious fascination with inbreeding as it appears on every post you add.
Gerald is blaming the military, he seems to think they are automatons who know nothing other than murder. He also seems to ignore the humanitarian work our troops do every day in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Gerald’s words: Our “ethical and moral†troops murdered whole villages of women and children in Viet Nam, and have murdered wedding parties in Iraq.
Not “some” troops, not a “few” troops, OUR troops, as if all our soldiers were hitting the streets just looking for someone to shoot. You will notice also he highlighted “ethical and moral”, as if they lack such personal qualities whatsoever.
Sending troops to war doesnt transform them into murderers and rapists, if it did the europeans would still be burying their dead from WWII.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:23 amWe don’t need to actively commit genocide - a few instances of killed innocents referred to as “collateral damage†is all it takes to cement the image of US soldiers as remorseless murderers.
That’s exactly it. All it takes is the perception that US soldiers are casual with Iraqi lives. There’s this older discussion on ICH that covers some of it, but there was a more recent general discussion on the breakdown in discipline of an occupying force. Can’t find it yet.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8479.htm
August 10th, 2007 at 11:24 am“di·ver·si·ty (dÄ-vûr’sÄ-tÄ“, dÄ«-) Pronunciation Key
n. pl. di·ver·si·ties
The fact or quality of being diverse; difference.
A point or respect in which things differ.
Variety or multiformity: “Charles Darwin saw in the diversity of species the principles of evolution that operated to generate the species: variation, competition and selection” (Scientific American).”
-American Hertage Dictionary”
Hmm, you folks own a dictionary? I see no reference to adherence to any particular political ideology in there.
Indeed, I see no reference to ideology at all.
It would appear that the radical liberals who inhabit sites such as these are among the most intolerant oponents of diversity there are.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:24 amComment by StarHopper — August 10, 2007 @ 11:08 am
Good Point.
That being said and to stay on topic and thus avoid being “trollish”.
Prayer should not be said officialy in congress at all and sali is nuts.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:25 amCaption Contest: “I’m not only president of the hairclub, I’m a customer”
August 10th, 2007 at 11:25 amComment by nanlichi — August 10, 2007 @ 11:11 am
Dude, that wasn’t me - it was probably that imposter CNN is talking about this morning.
I was at a strip club in Atlanta last night - ask Candy at the Cheetah Club she’ll confirm it.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:26 amRUCerious
was trying import a little humor, just watched Animal House and was thinking of the scene where Belushi talks of the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor. Anyway Daryll is too fun, I like to let him rant about his cult, and his belief that an omnipotent creator being really gives a sh!t about who is in the white house.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:26 amGerald’s words: Our “ethical and moral†troops murdered whole villages of women and children in Viet Nam, and have murdered wedding parties in Iraq.
Comment by StarHopper
This is why you people have NO CREDIBILITY…
You cant get ANYTHING right…
Did I say the above statement? Scroll Up… no I didnt.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:27 amBLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!
Comment by ParoDaryll — August 10, 2007 @ 11:18 am
Oh the irony!
…and on top of that, he cut and pasted the exact wording to which he felt was blasphemous.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:28 amNow that is funny!
TP, you REALLY need to either thread the comments or start deleting the troll posts and start banning their IPs. I don’t mean kicking your critics or dissenters, but just the idiots.
This goes for Left and right. Do we really need to know that “George Bush is a f*ing fascist?” Come on. You’ve got a great forum and audience for discussion, but most are silent because of the mob….
August 10th, 2007 at 11:28 amIt would appear that the radical liberals who inhabit sites such as these are among the most intolerant oponents of diversity there are.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 10, 2007 @ 11:24 am
Project much, Bogfoot? Got your clock cleaned two days ago, back for more?
August 10th, 2007 at 11:29 amWhile I realize you’ve never strayed too far from the trailer park, theres whole other nations out there, with massive firepower and million man armies. Firepower that combined, dwarfs ours in comparison.
So? And? You used the word “combined” which leads me to believe you understand that the U.S. has the most powerful military ever.
That being said, your point is irrelevant to the statement, which is if we proscribed a military operation whole sole intent was the murder of civilians the pile of corpses would reach the stratosphere. Obviously it hasnt, therefore a person with any sense would realize that the murder of civilians by our troops is an anomoly.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:29 am#83 CT_Version_2
Re: “CT_Version_2 needs remedial reading courses. Our ‘ethical and moral’ troops murdered whole villages of women and children in Viet Nam”
Links? Are you quoting the Hippie Propaganda Regiment from Vietnam?
I live for stuff like this. Here you go. Read the whole story and find out what a real hero is:
My Lai Pilot Hugh Thompson
Early in the morning of March 16, 1968, Thompson, door-gunner Lawrence Colburn and crew chief Glenn Andreotta came upon U.S. ground troops killing Vietnamese civilians in and around the village of My Lai.
They landed the helicopter in the line of fire between American troops and fleeing Vietnamese civilians and pointed their own guns at the U.S. soldiers to prevent more killings.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:29 am“The only people I see who seem to be enjoying bombing the $hit out of brown people are the people in the White House….
Comment by whiteyfresh — August 10, 2007 @ 11:15 am”
And their fellow “brown people”. I don’t know if you catch any news, but most of the violence in Iraq is Iraqis killing Iraqis….or Iranians killing Iraqis.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:29 amCAPTION CONTEST: “Who wants a foot rub?”
August 10th, 2007 at 11:30 amIt would appear that the radical liberals who inhabit sites such as these are among the most intolerant oponents of diversity there are.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Person A: “All religions are equal”
Retard NeoCon: “So you are saying you love Islam and hate Christianity?”
Person A: “No I said all religions are equal”
Retard NeoCon: “So you are saying you love Islam and hate Christianity?”
Person A: “Didnt we just cover this? Are you crazy or something?”
August 10th, 2007 at 11:30 amAh, CT_V2’s imaginary friend, aka his other personality O.Bigfoot, shows up and defends his position. Aren’t trolls so cute.
While quoting the line ‘A point or respect in which things differ’, I point at the three real religions and the two fictional religions above. Diversity is having at least one of each religion possible (I’ll grant you that the Mimbari religion and the Cetra religion don’t really need to have members in congress who believe them, but it would be cool!). Respect for diversity is encouraging people to believe as they wish, wether it be real, fake, or not existent period, as long as those people do not harm others with their beliefs. A Muslim should be allowed to be Muslim. A Muslim who kills in the name of his religion can be handled the same way that a regular murder who kills for money is handled — as a criminal. But you right wing hacks don’t see it that way. That’s why you’ve already lost the Left and are losing the Center too…
August 10th, 2007 at 11:30 amIt would appear that the radical liberals who inhabit sites such as these are among the most intolerant oponents of diversity there are.
Comment by O. Bigfooted — August 10, 2007 @ 11:24 am
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Common sense in Congress WAS envisioned by the FF, so I guess Sali, according to them, you should resign.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:31 amGerald Gibson is a supporter of Islam.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:31 amIt’s funny how the Left hates Christians but supports Muslims.
Strange.
Gerald why don’t you just convert?
So Mr. Bigfoot, why should we have our soldiers (of all colors, religions and creeds) police these people who are killing each other?
August 10th, 2007 at 11:31 amI agree with this guy. What of this “diversity†– a Muslim congressman and Hindu prayer in congress – is going to keep the “united†in United States?
That the constitution is a “secular document†is a description with which I agree. That the constitution is a document devoid of the influence of Christianity is a statement with which I disagree.
The constitution, and its first amendment, was written at a time when the predominant religious view was, and was assumed to always be, Christianity.
The writings of the founders and of those close to the founding indicate that the first amendment’s purpose was to prevent any “Christian sect†from dominating the government. This is what Jefferson is making clear in his letter to the Danbury Baptists when he use the phrase: “…wall of separation.â€
Jefferson’s phrase in this letter is not a suggestion that any religion is as good or desirable as any other religion, neither is the first amendment a suggestion that any religion is as good as any other religion. (For those of “non-belief†I believe the Supreme Court has declared atheism – the belief that there is no God – a religion.)
As best as I can tell the modern view of this amendment is nothing like the original view of this amendment.
The constitution also notes that Sundays – the Christian day of worship – is not to be considered a business day.
Further, the document uses the date as “…the year of our Lord.†I have to assume that A..D. was available to them.
I believe the following questions should always be asked when considering the influences that brought about the USA.
Would there be a United States without the influence of Christianity and the Bible?
Without the influence of this belief, what is going to keep the united in United States of America?
Will there continue to be a USA without the influence of Christianity and the Bible?
I don’t believe the founders were trying to create a Christian nation. I believe they were creating a government for a Christian people.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:32 amThe only people I see who seem to be enjoying bombing the $hit out of brown people are the people in the White House….
Comment by whiteyfresh — August 10, 2007 @ 11:15 amâ€
And their fellow “brown peopleâ€. I don’t know if you catch any news, but most of the violence in Iraq is Iraqis killing Iraqis….or Iranians killing Iraqis.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 10, 2007 @ 11:29 am
Um, a helluva lot more news than you get in the forest, I’m sure.
Everyone KNOWS that Iraqis are killing Iraqis-because they HATE each other. I guess Barney still has the President’s back..
August 10th, 2007 at 11:33 amGerald Gibson is a supporter of Islam.
It’s funny how the Left hates Christians but supports Muslims.
Strange.
Gerald why don’t you just convert?
Comment by Sam — August 10, 2007 @ 11:31 am
Don’t know about the “Left”, but I hate religion. All of them!
August 10th, 2007 at 11:33 am“Each generation responds to war as innocents. Each generation discovers its own disillusionment — often after a terrible price. The myth of war and the drug of war wait to be tasted…. Those who can tell us the truth are silenced or prefer to forget. The state needs the myth, as much as it needs its soldiers and its machines of war to survive.” Chris Hedges
August 10th, 2007 at 11:33 amIt’s funny how the Left hates Christians but supports Muslims.
Strange.
Comment by Sam I am — August 10, 2007 @ 11:31 am
Vitamin B complex may help increase your libido. Also, try a product containing Ginseng and Ginko Bilboa. And a handful of oysters never hurts, either!
August 10th, 2007 at 11:34 amGerald Gibson is a supporter of Islam.
It’s funny how the Left hates Christians but supports Muslims.
Strange.
Gerald why don’t you just convert?
Comment by Sam
Sam == RetardNeoCon?
Person A: “All religions are equalâ€
Retard NeoCon: “So you are saying you love Islam and hate Christianity?â€
Person A: “No I said all religions are equalâ€
Retard NeoCon: “So you are saying you love Islam and hate Christianity?â€
Person A: “Didnt we just cover this? Are you crazy or something?â€
August 10th, 2007 at 11:34 am