Comments on: Gitmo Lawyers File Constitutional Challenge Of Recently-Passed FISA Bill http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:02:42 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: m12 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4004695 m12 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:06:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4004695 <i>Are you saying that they will only be listening to the the person outside of the United States and not know who the person is inside the United States? If you think that, you are seriously stupid.</i> No, but if the person's voice happens to appear on the wiretap, it is mere coincidence! It's not your person, house, paper, or effect, when its on somebody else's phone! Are you saying that they will only be listening to the the person outside of the United States and not know who the person is inside the United States? If you think that, you are seriously stupid.

No, but if the person’s voice happens to appear on the wiretap, it is mere coincidence! It’s not your person, house, paper, or effect, when its on somebody else’s phone!

]]> By: Martin Gifford http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4001529 Martin Gifford Sat, 11 Aug 2007 01:55:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4001529 <blockquote>#4: These are sad times when lawyers carry the torch for Democracy where Congressman have willingly failed to do so. Comment by J Lewd — August 10, 2007 @ 12:35 pm</blockquote> Great comment!

#4: These are sad times when lawyers carry the torch for Democracy where Congressman have willingly failed to do so.

Comment by J Lewd — August 10, 2007 @ 12:35 pm

Great comment!

]]> By: Briseadh na Faire http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4001522 Briseadh na Faire Sat, 11 Aug 2007 01:46:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4001522 <blockquote> <em>When did the 4th amendment extend to foreigners and international communication? Comment by m12 — August 10, 2007 @ 2:09 pm </em></blockquote> <strong> December 15, 1791</strong>

When did the 4th amendment extend to foreigners and international communication?

Comment by m12 — August 10, 2007 @ 2:09 pm

December 15, 1791

]]> By: Anon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000894 Anon Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:22:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000894 America's Constitution defended by the only people who have standing: Prisoners of war. What a mess this Congress is. America’s Constitution defended by the only people who have standing: Prisoners of war.

What a mess this Congress is.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000760 bilbobaggins Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:53:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000760 I give up on this thread. It's like being in the middle of an echo chamber on a funny farm. I give up on this thread. It’s like being in the middle of an echo chamber on a funny farm.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000756 bilbobaggins Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:52:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000756 "If brains were dollar bills, you’d be bankrupt. Comment by M12IsAntiAmerican" Bravo, that's a good one! “If brains were dollar bills, you’d be bankrupt.
Comment by M12IsAntiAmerican”

Bravo, that’s a good one!

]]> By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000751 rockyroad Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:51:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000751 m12 - What if I'm negotiating a multi-million contract with a foreign country that competes with a bid from Halliburton. Yeah, I'll sleep well knowing that my client isn't somehow deemed a "terrorist" and call tapped and client screwed. Cheney/Gonzo wouldn't do that. It just wouldn't be right. m12 – What if I’m negotiating a multi-million contract with a foreign country that competes with a bid from Halliburton. Yeah, I’ll sleep well knowing that my client isn’t somehow deemed a “terrorist” and call tapped and client screwed.

Cheney/Gonzo wouldn’t do that. It just wouldn’t be right.

]]> By: WC http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000741 WC Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:49:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000741 Wow, he’ll have to keep good notes to remember what all 300 million of us are up to. Comment by r — August 10, 2007 @ 12:59 pm -------- Either you're an idiot by choice, or one by accident. Wow, he’ll have to keep good notes to remember what all 300 million of us are up to.

Comment by r — August 10, 2007 @ 12:59 pm

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Either you’re an idiot by choice, or one by accident.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000727 bilbobaggins Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:47:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000727 <em>"Even if the call happens to originate from the United States, the American is merely talking to someone who is being wiretapped. Comment by m12 "</em> Are you saying that they will only be listening to the the person outside of the United States and not know who the person is inside the United States? If you think that, you are seriously stupid. “Even if the call happens to originate from the United States, the American is merely talking to someone who is being wiretapped.
Comment by m12 “

Are you saying that they will only be listening to the the person outside of the United States and not know who the person is inside the United States? If you think that, you are seriously stupid.

]]> By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000723 rockyroad Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:47:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000723 And m12, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to be afraid of. With Gonzo as the designated decider. Be afraid. And m12, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to be afraid of.

With Gonzo as the designated decider. Be afraid.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000682 bilbobaggins Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:39:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000682 <em>"Nobody is spying on you, bilbo, unless you are posting from Pakistan! Comment by m12"</em> And you know this how? I have several friends over seas that I talk to a couple of times a month. I have no idea if anyone is spying on me because it's top secret and they don't let you know when they are doing it. The issue is not whether or not they are spying on me. The issue is that they are spying on any Americans. The issue is the shredding of our Constitution. “Nobody is spying on you, bilbo, unless you are posting from Pakistan!
Comment by m12″

And you know this how? I have several friends over seas that I talk to a couple of times a month. I have no idea if anyone is spying on me because it’s top secret and they don’t let you know when they are doing it.

The issue is not whether or not they are spying on me. The issue is that they are spying on any Americans. The issue is the shredding of our Constitution.

]]> By: Snake Oil Sales http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000661 Snake Oil Sales Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:34:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000661 #207 I have some defunct Silverado stock, a vile or 'roids and a bridge in Michigan that needs a little rebuilding. We could form an LP and ,provided you got no probs with that little 4th am stumbling block (never stopped anyone anyway), I got some contractor ties to Iraq. I think we could form a beautiful partnership. Bring it on $$$ #207 I have some defunct Silverado stock, a vile or ‘roids and a bridge in Michigan that needs a little rebuilding. We could form an LP and ,provided you got no probs with that little 4th am stumbling block (never stopped anyone anyway), I got some contractor ties to Iraq.

I think we could form a beautiful partnership. Bring it on $$$

]]> By: M12IsAntiAmerican http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000626 M12IsAntiAmerican Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:25:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000626 Poor stupid m12 thinks FISA is for domestic terrorists only!!! What an idiot! Poor stupid m12 thinks FISA is for domestic terrorists only!!!

What an idiot!

]]> By: M12IsAntiAmerican http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000622 M12IsAntiAmerican Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:24:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000622 <em>Stupid’s position is that any call entering the US from Al Qaeda needs a warrant…yes, he is indeed trying to shield our enemies from our intelligence officials! Comment by m12 — August 10, 2007 @ 3:55 pm</em> Since you're stupid - you're saying that's your opinion? Stupid’s position is that any call entering the US from Al Qaeda needs a warrant…yes, he is indeed trying to shield our enemies from our intelligence officials! Comment by m12 — August 10, 2007 @ 3:55 pm

Since you’re stupid – you’re saying that’s your opinion?

]]> By: M12IsAntiAmerican http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000619 M12IsAntiAmerican Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:23:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000619 <em>Not only have you not read the statute, you haven’t read your own post. If you did, you would realize the new bipartisan law is targeted at suspected foreign intelligence agents outside the US. Comment by m12 — August 10, 2007 @ 3:56 pm</em> Says the wingnut that hasn't read the statute! You're really stupid. Not only have you not read the statute, you haven’t read your own post. If you did, you would realize the new bipartisan law is targeted at suspected foreign intelligence agents outside the US. Comment by m12 — August 10, 2007 @ 3:56 pm

Says the wingnut that hasn’t read the statute! You’re really stupid.

]]> By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000618 rockyroad Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:23:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000618 #207 Give it up. No one's buying. #207 Give it up. No one’s buying.

]]> By: p http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000554 p Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:05:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000554 <i>p</i> p

]]> By: counterfeitingSUPERDOLLARS http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000538 counterfeitingSUPERDOLLARS Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:02:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000538 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/6/81143/73736 ______ <em>The Canary in the Coalmine is available for purchase at patriotictruthteller.net </em> ________ <strong>Another Justice Department Leaker Persecuted: Don't Let It Happen Again</strong> by Jesselyn Radack <strong> RE: FBI raid against possible NSA program leaker</strong> If this happened last week, why are we learning about it two days after the unconstitutional FISA law passed the house and the Senate? Did Newsweek sit on this story? Did FBI use yet more unwarranted wiretaps to secure a warrant for this guy's personal effects? Whatever happened to whistleblower protection? this guy is a perfect candidate for protection under past "whistleblower laws" __ It takes courage to be a whistleblower. And thank God there are more and more of them. I only wish Congress had the same courage as those lonely federal employees who, for some reason, insist on retaining their codes of ethics no matter which way the wind blows. The fact that most papers are covering this story on their front pages leads me to believe that somebody is taking notice and finds the whole thing despicable. Frankly, I'm wondering if this man is the anon from last week who was advising how we can beat them at their game. He/she was definitely an insider with legal expertise. I'm a little worried about Kossacks getting in on that. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/6/81143/73736

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The Canary in the Coalmine is available for purchase at patriotictruthteller.net

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Another Justice Department Leaker Persecuted: Don’t Let It Happen Again
by Jesselyn Radack

RE: FBI raid against possible NSA program leaker

If this happened last week, why are we learning about it two days after the unconstitutional FISA law passed the house and the Senate? Did Newsweek sit on this story? Did FBI use yet more unwarranted wiretaps to secure a warrant for this guy’s personal effects?

Whatever happened to whistleblower protection? this guy is a perfect candidate for protection under past “whistleblower laws”

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It takes courage to be a whistleblower. And thank God there are more and more of them. I only wish Congress had the same courage as those lonely federal employees who, for some reason, insist on retaining their codes of ethics no matter which way the wind blows.

The fact that most papers are covering this story on their front pages leads me to believe that somebody is taking notice and finds the whole thing despicable.

Frankly, I’m wondering if this man is the anon from last week who was advising how we can beat them at their game. He/she was definitely an insider with legal expertise. I’m a little worried about Kossacks getting in on that.

]]> By: m12 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000513 m12 Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:56:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000513 <i>Yes, and that someone is YOU! Comment by M12IsAntiAmerican — August 10, 2007 @ 3:54 pm </i> Not only have you not read the statute, you haven't read your own post. If you did, you would realize the new bipartisan law is targeted at suspected foreign intelligence agents outside the US. Yes, and that someone is YOU!

Comment by M12IsAntiAmerican — August 10, 2007 @ 3:54 pm

Not only have you not read the statute, you haven’t read your own post. If you did, you would realize the new bipartisan law is targeted at suspected foreign intelligence agents outside the US.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/comment-page-5/#comment-4000509 RUCerious Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:56:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/fisa-bill-unconstitutional/#comment-4000509 I'm also concerned about the "other" domestic spying programs Alberto hinted at to the committee. You know, the ones you don't know about, because they'd have to kill you if you found out about... Yeah, those. I’m also concerned about the “other” domestic spying programs Alberto hinted at to the committee. You know, the ones you don’t know about, because they’d have to kill you if you found out about…
Yeah, those.

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