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	<title>Comments on: Giuliani &#8216;Clarifies&#8217; 9/11 Comments: &#8216;I Was Saying&#8230;I&#8217;m There With You&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: dale hoard</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/giuliani-there-with-firefighters/comment-page-4/#comment-4033321</link>
		<dc:creator>dale hoard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giuliani, Big on Terror, Not on Evidence

We Are Change
Thursday Aug 23, 2007

Rudy Giuliani attended a fund raiser in Brooklyn at a jewish community center. His speech was mainly focused on, you guessed it, the war on terror. He made fun of Michael Moore&#039;s new movie &quot;Sicko&quot; and denounced it with Pro-American HealthCare sentiments. However he failed to mention what he would do for the 1st Responders who are dieing by the thousands.

His speech was big on terror, but when it came time to discuss the evidence like the recent member of his own administration who has gone public, Michael Haas, he was deaf. Mr. Haas describes explosions in the lower level of WTC Building 7 before the towers collapse. He said he was told to get out of the command center in building 7 and he didn&#039;t make it down the stairwell soon enough when around the 8th floor the stairwell blew up. He witnessed the lobby area completely blown out and was told not to look at the dead bodies as he left.

Rudy also didn&#039;t want to answer questions about evidence provided by NY FireFighter John Schroeder which completely shatters the official story. Rudy wasn&#039;t the only politician who didn&#039;t want to hear about evidence, NY State Senator Marty Golden was also in attendance. He also fled when we asked him about the recent video by John and the statements taken by Fire Commissioner Thomas Von Essen from 503 firefighters and paramedics from the FDNY. In total there are 12,000 pages of evidence that the 9/11 Commission just flat out ignored.

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These politicians are saying to the people who risked their lives on 9/11, we don&#039;t care what you saw. We don&#039;t care about the truth constituents. We don&#039;t care about justice for the family members. Who cares if Osama Bin Laden is no longer wanted for the crimes of 9/11 (See his wanted poster on fbi.gov today).

History has now recorded these politicians and their staff for all time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giuliani, Big on Terror, Not on Evidence</p>
<p>We Are Change<br />
Thursday Aug 23, 2007</p>
<p>Rudy Giuliani attended a fund raiser in Brooklyn at a jewish community center. His speech was mainly focused on, you guessed it, the war on terror. He made fun of Michael Moore&#8217;s new movie &#8220;Sicko&#8221; and denounced it with Pro-American HealthCare sentiments. However he failed to mention what he would do for the 1st Responders who are dieing by the thousands.</p>
<p>His speech was big on terror, but when it came time to discuss the evidence like the recent member of his own administration who has gone public, Michael Haas, he was deaf. Mr. Haas describes explosions in the lower level of WTC Building 7 before the towers collapse. He said he was told to get out of the command center in building 7 and he didn&#8217;t make it down the stairwell soon enough when around the 8th floor the stairwell blew up. He witnessed the lobby area completely blown out and was told not to look at the dead bodies as he left.</p>
<p>Rudy also didn&#8217;t want to answer questions about evidence provided by NY FireFighter John Schroeder which completely shatters the official story. Rudy wasn&#8217;t the only politician who didn&#8217;t want to hear about evidence, NY State Senator Marty Golden was also in attendance. He also fled when we asked him about the recent video by John and the statements taken by Fire Commissioner Thomas Von Essen from 503 firefighters and paramedics from the FDNY. In total there are 12,000 pages of evidence that the 9/11 Commission just flat out ignored.</p>
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<p>These politicians are saying to the people who risked their lives on 9/11, we don&#8217;t care what you saw. We don&#8217;t care about the truth constituents. We don&#8217;t care about justice for the family members. Who cares if Osama Bin Laden is no longer wanted for the crimes of 9/11 (See his wanted poster on fbi.gov today).</p>
<p>History has now recorded these politicians and their staff for all time.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4033321', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Alejandro</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/giuliani-there-with-firefighters/comment-page-4/#comment-4001923</link>
		<dc:creator>Alejandro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Romney 2 months ago:



&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;Can you imagine Democrats in charge? John Edwards, saying there&#039;s no global war on terror?&quot; Romney says.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070809/NEWS01/708090322/1079
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/news_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_86_5590783,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romney 2 months ago:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Can you imagine Democrats in charge? John Edwards, saying there&#8217;s no global war on terror?&#8221; Romney says.</em></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070809/NEWS01/708090322/1079" rel="nofollow">http://www.press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070809/NEWS01/708090322/1079</a><br />
<a href="http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/news_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_86_5590783,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/news_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_86_5590783,00.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001923', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Alejandro</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/giuliani-there-with-firefighters/comment-page-4/#comment-4001917</link>
		<dc:creator>Alejandro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Romney gave his own little soundbyte for us all to exploit.


&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&quot;There&#039;s not a global war on terror,&quot; Romney said.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romney gave his own little soundbyte for us all to exploit.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;There&#8217;s not a global war on terror,&#8221; Romney said.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001917', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jotropro</title>
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		<dc:creator>jotropro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 03:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opportunist Scum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opportunist Scum.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001715', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: astrocreep</title>
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		<dc:creator>astrocreep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 02:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>god d@mn, what kind of unimaginable bs is this guy made of? i mean, really, saying he was there more then the workers?

and to #162, i totally agree. im all for going back to the high school methods of torture to beat sense into the reps heads. or just for fun, but then again, im a bit sadistic like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>god d@mn, what kind of unimaginable bs is this guy made of? i mean, really, saying he was there more then the workers?</p>
<p>and to #162, i totally agree. im all for going back to the high school methods of torture to beat sense into the reps heads. or just for fun, but then again, im a bit sadistic like that.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001560', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/giuliani-there-with-firefighters/comment-page-4/#comment-4001550</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 02:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#164: &lt;em&gt;People arnâ€™t as stupid as you, rudy.&lt;/em&gt;

I wish that were true.  Fact is, a lot of very stupid people think that Rudy Giuliani is a real man, and therefore would make a good President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#164: <em>People arnâ€™t as stupid as you, rudy.</em></p>
<p>I wish that were true.  Fact is, a lot of very stupid people think that Rudy Giuliani is a real man, and therefore would make a good President.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001550', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: theswan</title>
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		<dc:creator>theswan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d vote for a sanitation worker before I&#039;d vote for this phoney.  People arn&#039;t as stupid as you, rudy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d vote for a sanitation worker before I&#8217;d vote for this phoney.  People arn&#8217;t as stupid as you, rudy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001421', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#162: &lt;em&gt;Well I was speaking figuratively Jim, of course[.]&lt;/em&gt;

I know.  Sometimes, though, people pick up on a comment like that and assume progressives all want to kick Republicans&#039; heads in.  I mean, sometimes I get frustrated and angry with them, but I&#039;d never actually do that.  And I know you wouldn&#039;t, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#162: <em>Well I was speaking figuratively Jim, of course[.]</em></p>
<p>I know.  Sometimes, though, people pick up on a comment like that and assume progressives all want to kick Republicans&#8217; heads in.  I mean, sometimes I get frustrated and angry with them, but I&#8217;d never actually do that.  And I know you wouldn&#8217;t, either.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001400', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/giuliani-there-with-firefighters/comment-page-4/#comment-4001213</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I agree with all of that, except the part about kicking their heads in.

Maybe we could repeatedly dunk their heads in the toilet, to give them the impression of drowning? After all, that isnâ€™t torture, by their definition.&lt;/em&gt;

Comment by Jim â€” August 10, 2007 @ 7:01 pm


Well I was speaking figuratively Jim, of course, but I&#039;d be down for the toilet dunking thingy. 

It&#039;d make great reality tv.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I agree with all of that, except the part about kicking their heads in.</p>
<p>Maybe we could repeatedly dunk their heads in the toilet, to give them the impression of drowning? After all, that isnâ€™t torture, by their definition.</em></p>
<p>Comment by Jim â€” August 10, 2007 @ 7:01 pm</p>
<p>Well I was speaking figuratively Jim, of course, but I&#8217;d be down for the toilet dunking thingy. </p>
<p>It&#8217;d make great reality tv.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001213', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/giuliani-there-with-firefighters/comment-page-4/#comment-4001206</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who thinks that Bush won in 2000 should tie a rope around the highest beam in their garage, and HANG THEMSELVES, like the traitors to America that they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who thinks that Bush won in 2000 should tie a rope around the highest beam in their garage, and HANG THEMSELVES, like the traitors to America that they are.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001206', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/giuliani-there-with-firefighters/comment-page-4/#comment-4001204</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just to be clear, Bill O&#039;Reilly, I don&#039;t actually, literally, advocate dunking anyone&#039;s head in the toilet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just to be clear, Bill O&#8217;Reilly, I don&#8217;t actually, literally, advocate dunking anyone&#8217;s head in the toilet.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001204', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#157: I agree with all of that, except the part about kicking their heads in.

Maybe we could repeatedly dunk their heads in the toilet, to give them the impression of drowning?  After all, that isn&#039;t torture, by their definition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#157: I agree with all of that, except the part about kicking their heads in.</p>
<p>Maybe we could repeatedly dunk their heads in the toilet, to give them the impression of drowning?  After all, that isn&#8217;t torture, by their definition.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001197', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
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		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And lets not forget who CALLED the election for Bush.

What famous news figure called the election for Bush? Dan Rather? Peter Jennings? Nope.


HIS COUSIN.

BUSH&#039;S COUSIN called the election.

Worthy of a third world country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And lets not forget who CALLED the election for Bush.</p>
<p>What famous news figure called the election for Bush? Dan Rather? Peter Jennings? Nope.</p>
<p>HIS COUSIN.</p>
<p>BUSH&#8217;S COUSIN called the election.</p>
<p>Worthy of a third world country.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001196', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/giuliani-there-with-firefighters/comment-page-4/#comment-4001184</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;So, you would take the judgment of a Bush political appointee over the sworn testimony of literally thousands of African-American voters in Florida, as well as countless other observers? Just checking to be sure I understand your perspective.
&lt;/em&gt;
Comment by Jim â€” August 10, 2007 @ 6:49 pm

We don&#039;t need a judge for that. Its a matter of public record. Florida state police set up a road block outside of broward county Florida, stopping traffic for miles, keeping 16,000 DEMOCRATS from reaching the polls.

The State Police are commanded by the GOVENOR.

The Govenor is the BROTHER of the man running for President.

The night of his BROTHERS ELECTION, the State Police set up a road block on the only road leading out of an ALL DEMOCRAT district. 

16,000 DEMOCRAT VOTERS are KEPT FROM VOTING.

Then the Govenors brother wins the election by 537 VOTES!!!

FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN VOTES!!!!!

And the woman in charge of recount? 

Why, they appointed the woman who was the CHAIRMAN of the COMITTEE to ELECT THE GOVENORS BROTHER!!!

The election was a SHAM. Worthy of a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. 

Anyone who says otherwise needs his head kicked in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>So, you would take the judgment of a Bush political appointee over the sworn testimony of literally thousands of African-American voters in Florida, as well as countless other observers? Just checking to be sure I understand your perspective.<br />
</em><br />
Comment by Jim â€” August 10, 2007 @ 6:49 pm</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need a judge for that. Its a matter of public record. Florida state police set up a road block outside of broward county Florida, stopping traffic for miles, keeping 16,000 DEMOCRATS from reaching the polls.</p>
<p>The State Police are commanded by the GOVENOR.</p>
<p>The Govenor is the BROTHER of the man running for President.</p>
<p>The night of his BROTHERS ELECTION, the State Police set up a road block on the only road leading out of an ALL DEMOCRAT district. </p>
<p>16,000 DEMOCRAT VOTERS are KEPT FROM VOTING.</p>
<p>Then the Govenors brother wins the election by 537 VOTES!!!</p>
<p>FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN VOTES!!!!!</p>
<p>And the woman in charge of recount? </p>
<p>Why, they appointed the woman who was the CHAIRMAN of the COMITTEE to ELECT THE GOVENORS BROTHER!!!</p>
<p>The election was a SHAM. Worthy of a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. </p>
<p>Anyone who says otherwise needs his head kicked in.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001184', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: gorn by any other name</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorn by any other name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Thanks for coming.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; - CV v2

Not for you, or any other Republitard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;Thanks for coming.&#8221;</strong> &#8211; CV v2</p>
<p>Not for you, or any other Republitard.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001181', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ren</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/giuliani-there-with-firefighters/comment-page-4/#comment-4001177</link>
		<dc:creator>Ren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the reasons Rudy was so prepared for 911 is because homeland security set up shop on 9/9 or 9/10.  What&#039;s up with that coincidence, Rudy??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons Rudy was so prepared for 911 is because homeland security set up shop on 9/9 or 9/10.  What&#8217;s up with that coincidence, Rudy??<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001177', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: gorn by any other name</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorn by any other name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Youâ€™ve been posting for all this time, yet youâ€™ve said nothing whatsoever, just bursting out with cheap, unsubstantiated denial.&quot; &lt;/strong&gt;- CV v2

That&#039;s ok. I don&#039;t pretend to be deep, unlike know it all gassbag trollbots.

Time for that upgrade, and maybe a little WD-40 under the hood while you&#039;re at it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;Youâ€™ve been posting for all this time, yet youâ€™ve said nothing whatsoever, just bursting out with cheap, unsubstantiated denial.&#8221; </strong>- CV v2</p>
<p>That&#8217;s ok. I don&#8217;t pretend to be deep, unlike know it all gassbag trollbots.</p>
<p>Time for that upgrade, and maybe a little WD-40 under the hood while you&#8217;re at it&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001176', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/giuliani-there-with-firefighters/comment-page-4/#comment-4001166</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#151: &lt;em&gt;I would need that proof from a fair judge, whom we certainly have at least a number of on the federal bench.&lt;/em&gt;

So, you would take the judgment of a Bush political appointee over the sworn testimony of literally thousands of African-American voters in Florida, as well as countless other observers?  Just checking to be sure I understand your perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#151: <em>I would need that proof from a fair judge, whom we certainly have at least a number of on the federal bench.</em></p>
<p>So, you would take the judgment of a Bush political appointee over the sworn testimony of literally thousands of African-American voters in Florida, as well as countless other observers?  Just checking to be sure I understand your perspective.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001166', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/10/giuliani-there-with-firefighters/comment-page-4/#comment-4001161</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#148: &lt;em&gt;And hereâ€™s a newsflash: that â€œprogressive majorityâ€ report has been thoroughly debunked.&lt;/em&gt;

By whom?  The Heritage Foundation?  If so, I&#039;ll take my chances.

&lt;em&gt;Itâ€™s not groundbreaking, so I wouldnâ€™t rely on that by measure of any political leaning.&lt;/em&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t, either.  I rely on results, such as the 2006 election.  And I rely on my observations of the people around me.  My gut feeling is that a certain percentage of Republican voters--maybe 20% of the total electorate, including yourself--would stand by Bush and the Republican Party if they all ate live babies on national television at the RNC Convention, convinced that it was some sort of liberal conspiracy.  The rest of the country, however--slowly, surely, inextricably--is moving away from the Republican Party because they are coming to see how corrupt and morally bankrupt it is.  This gives me some hope, but I take nothing for granted.  The 2008 election is far from a sure thing at this point, especially since the electoral system has not yet been protected from tampering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#148: <em>And hereâ€™s a newsflash: that â€œprogressive majorityâ€ report has been thoroughly debunked.</em></p>
<p>By whom?  The Heritage Foundation?  If so, I&#8217;ll take my chances.</p>
<p><em>Itâ€™s not groundbreaking, so I wouldnâ€™t rely on that by measure of any political leaning.</em></p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t, either.  I rely on results, such as the 2006 election.  And I rely on my observations of the people around me.  My gut feeling is that a certain percentage of Republican voters&#8211;maybe 20% of the total electorate, including yourself&#8211;would stand by Bush and the Republican Party if they all ate live babies on national television at the RNC Convention, convinced that it was some sort of liberal conspiracy.  The rest of the country, however&#8211;slowly, surely, inextricably&#8211;is moving away from the Republican Party because they are coming to see how corrupt and morally bankrupt it is.  This gives me some hope, but I take nothing for granted.  The 2008 election is far from a sure thing at this point, especially since the electoral system has not yet been protected from tampering.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001161', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: CT_Version 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>CT_Version 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Jim â€” August 10, 2007 @ 6:37 pm

I would need that proof from a fair judge, whom we certainly have at least a number of on the federal bench.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Jim â€” August 10, 2007 @ 6:37 pm</p>
<p>I would need that proof from a fair judge, whom we certainly have at least a number of on the federal bench.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4001157', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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