‘War Czar’: Military draft is on the table.
‘War Czar’: Military draft is on the table.
In an interview with NPR, the White House’s “war czar” Gen. Doug Lute said that “it makes sense to certainly consider” a military draft. “I can tell you, this has always been an option on the table, but ultimately, this is a policy matter between meeting the demands for the nation’s security by one means or another.” Listen to it:
Center for American Progress analysts Lawrence Korb and Max Bergmann wrote recently, “Considering the current state of the Army, if the president wants to sustain a substantial number of U.S. troops in Iraq beyond the next 18 months, he should call for reinstating the draft. … Yet the president will never call for the draft. He knows the country would never support the level of sacrifice for this war that implementing a draft would demand.”
Listen to the full interview of Lute here.
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August 10th, 2007 at 8:02 pmQuestions for the trolls:
a) Do you support a universal draft?
b) If you answered no to the first question, then how do you suggest we win what you regard to be WWIII against the terrorists?
August 10th, 2007 at 8:05 pm“Considering the current state of the Army, if the president wants to sustain a substantial number of U.S. troops in Iraq beyond the next 18 months, he should call for reinstating the draft. … Yet the president will never call for the draft.
Okay. So what's the point of this thread?
August 10th, 2007 at 8:08 pmSo what’s the point of this thread?
Comment by p — August 10, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
I'm sure that no amount of explaining will ever make you understand what this thread is about.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:09 pmthis aint no war for us republicans to fight. Let the mis-fortunate do it.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:11 pmOkay. So what’s the point of this thread?
Comment by p — August 10, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
P, what you going to do if Dick is dumb enough to bomb Iran? Bombing means nothing without ground troops, and to me it looks like our forces are a days drive from say an Iranian retaliation. Personally I think those of you of draft age better seriously consider the stuff you cheer for. Even a big escalation of violence in Iraq, and they're going to either have to withdraw, or start the draft.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:14 pmIn an interview with NPR, the White House’s “war czar†Gen. Doug Lute said....
Oh yeah, War Czar, I remember that episode. Something about hiring some sap to take over as C in C but not, like, actually say so. Took 'em a while to come up with anyone stupid enough to take the job. Boy he sure went from New Jesus to Nonentity fast didn't he.
Please dear Patreus in heaven, we beseech Thee, rescue us from the utter collapse of credibility we have wrought upon ourselves. Surely You will hear our cries and come unto us with yet more Friedmans unto the end of time. For you are truly our New Jesus. For the moment.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:15 pmIf the thugs in Washington go that route—instituting a draft to fight all the wars they need to fill their bloodlust—that would probably be the beginning of the end for them.
As long as most people can go about their daily lives, they can easily ignore the senseless blood and death. But PERSOANLIZE IT, and everything changes.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:15 pmThe American people support an all-volunteer military. That's how an educated, well-prepared military is sustained.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:18 pmIt's about time they backed up their mission appropriately.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:21 pmThis will, if presented seriously, end the Bush Gang control of the Whitehouse and most of the Republicans in Congress. There is no way even the Red States will support a Draft (unless only registered Democrats are drafted).
Bush is already radioactive to all the Republican Presidential candidates and this will just force them, and Republican members of Congress, to call for an end to the war.
Go for it....
August 10th, 2007 at 8:22 pmComment by p — August 10, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
Another good point. No amnesty, and citizenship is lost if you flee.
That wouldn't make the lefties happy. They would like specifically the children of Republicans to be drafted.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:22 pmThe American people support an all-volunteer military. That’s how an educated, well-prepared military is sustained.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 10, 2007 @ 8:18 pm
And when a country is at war, and serious about winning one, you have a draft, and even then sometimes as history shows, no matter how many of the enemy you kill, they keep coming.
An all volunteer army is great for small interventions, or part of a large multi-national force. Even many of the "Coalition" have left, or will be leaving soon. Now what ya gonna do? Recruitment is not even meeting it's goals.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:23 pmNow this will get the masses into the streets... if not start the revolution.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:24 pmBut but but but--wait a sec. Isn't this The Struggle of Our Generation? The War to End Evil? Yes, truly our very future hangs upon success in Iraq.
Institute a draft??? Whaddyou nuts??? That would blow the lid right off of this thing.
Criminy, the warmongers don't even get out there and urge kids to voluntarily enlist, as a matter of patriotic duty. The elephant--hell, the blue whale--in the living room. If they really believed any of their own belicose b.s., they wouldn't be just giving voice to lofty visions of 100 Years of Glorious War, they'd be out there urgently putting the case for enlistment and young men to join the Noble Enterprise. I've never heard anything remotely resembling such a call from the AWOL Codpiece or 5-Deferments Shotgun Boy. Let alone any of the warbloviators online. Christ, guys who turned up with 4-F deferments in WWII were subject to all kinds of (unfair, but real) ostracism. Being of age and not being in uniform was a matter of real, universal shame.
Should be the same now, if this really IS the Grand War To End All Badness that it's hyped as. But it ain't.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:24 pmTrue, but if we are needed to provide our expertise for the military, and they request our input, I am more than willing to help out.
Comment by p — August 10, 2007 @ 8:19 pm
Yah hiding & fear are two things you know a lot about! Somehow I think you'll end up on the front lines with an M16, and maybe body armor.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:26 pmToo many see through this profiteering over what the thugs want us to believe is war. No way are the masses going to take a draft from these liars... And Cheney is threatening Iran... INSANE.... It is the thugs and their children's turn to waste their blood over this nonsense.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:28 pmThey would like specifically the children of Republicans to be drafted.
Comment by CT_Version 2
YAWN. The troll "pin your idiotic imagination on others game" is so lame, so old, so childish and so not effective.
When are you trollips going to get serious?
August 10th, 2007 at 8:28 pmRestart the draft? There will be massive civil protest by day, and riots by night, as 70% of America unleashes its fury at Boy-in-a-bubble Bush, for lying to them, to trick them into backing his endless, insanely expensive war.
OK by me.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:29 pmI think that some of the commentors here see the instatement of a draft as a strategic move, secretly hoping that it will cause America to surrender. -P
I think your making a Freudian slip and are actually posting YOUR desire.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:29 pmComment by p — August 10, 2007 @ 8:19 pm
That's good, Mr. P.
On my part, I would never run off to hiding if called (e.g., Canada), and probably wouldn't care to sift throught the deferment system, either. Therefore, I'd be up and ready to serve in any branch and in any capacity (preferably the Marines).
August 10th, 2007 at 8:30 pmWhen are you trollips going to get serious?
Comment by Tau — August 10, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
Somehow I don't think until the bullets are flying over their heads, or they just watched their buddy bleed to death, or they just saw the results of some 500lb bomb maiming innocent people. Those being the ones theys keep telling us they're trying to free. Oh they like to act all tough behind their keyboards, when in reality we all know they're really the biggest cowards, and most un-Americans on the planet.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:32 pmComment by Tau — August 10, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
If you've been on previous threads, there's been plenty of talk of recruiting the Bush twins and other kids of rich of Republicans. Yet, lefties talk of an "apolitical government."
*YAWN* I'm tired of repeating myself to slow people.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:32 pmComment by CT_Version 2 — Yeah — Comment by p
Stop talking to yourself, you psycho.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:32 pmFrom another thread about WHY people who want to discuss TROLL-FREE are leaving TP:
Geez… the Dems want to escape from reality so much that they are starting a secret club!!!
No, they want INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION on topics of GREAT IMPORTANCE, such as Bush being a TRAITOR to the USA, which he IS
and they are tired of people like yourself who diddle themselves to mental images of AWOL coward TRAITOR Bush in his aircraft-carrier flight suit…
Comment by Arn Gunnutes
August 10th, 2007 at 8:35 pmThat wouldn’t make the lefties happy. They would like specifically the children of Republicans to be drafted.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 10, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
No, we'd like to see children of Republicans SERVE. Jenna and not Jenna for starters, maybe a couple of Romneys. Why must the blood of the poor be spilled for this administration to bathe in? Reinstate the draft, let Mr. Pee serve and then we can argue about "friendly fire," "murder," or "justifiable homicide," just like the Tillman case!
August 10th, 2007 at 8:36 pmRestart the draft? There will be massive civil protest by day, and riots by night, as 70% of America unleashes its fury at Boy-in-a-bubble Bush, for lying to them, to trick them into backing his endless, insanely expensive war.
OK by me.
Comment by Arthur C.
massive civil protest ???... we may see riots... people are pissed as it is and this may spark more than just protests... either way I am ready
August 10th, 2007 at 8:36 pm"CT_Version_2"
You would go, in your word - "honorably" (i.e, no exploiting the deferrement system) if drafted, but apparently no interest in volunteering right now ...
Why the distinction?
August 10th, 2007 at 8:37 pmGeez… the Dems want to escape from reality so much that they are starting a secret club!!!
Idiot wingnut troll thinks an online forum = reality? No wonder right wingers can't win wars!
August 10th, 2007 at 8:37 pm*YAWN* I’m tired of repeating myself to slow people.
Comment by CT_Version 2
The fact is many people dodge the draft thru college deferments putting the load of war on less fortunate persons shoulders.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:40 pm[Political idiotology aside]
Gen. Lute has NOT ruled out reinstating the draft. This is NOT because the military is easily meeting it's recruiting goals. This is a recognition that our troops are being s t r e t c h e d to the point where military options are no longer options. The generals know this....our enemies know this. Bush has squandered our greatest military asset....The THREAT of Military Action.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:42 pmSurrender is a Republican frame which casts the occupation of Iraq as a battle situation; it is not. The battle ended a long time ago - "Mission Accomplished". What we're in now is an occupation in the middle of a civil war. A occupation ends with withdrawal not surrender, and it cannot end soon enough.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:42 pmIf they reinstitute the draft, start with the five Romney boys. They can be this war's version of the "Fighting Sullivans".
August 10th, 2007 at 8:45 pmDoes p stand for a big p---y sounds like it
August 10th, 2007 at 8:46 pmAs I see it, the scenario is thus: goad Iran into war just as the Democrats take the White House, and voila -- a draft is born.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:47 pmCan we PLEASE draft the Romney 5 first?
August 10th, 2007 at 8:48 pmIf war profiteering was made illegal, and it should be, this so called war on terror would be over instantly.
How do these bastards get away with this?
How much profiteering will be enough for these greedy bastards?
August 10th, 2007 at 8:48 pmYeah, if I were called, I would want either the Army or the Marines.
Comment by p — August 10, 2007 @ 8:31 pm
oh my... see how yung'n'dum you are...
if you're "called", you WILL be in the army...
and you just broke your mom's heart...
August 10th, 2007 at 8:49 pmfool.
.
goad Iran into war just as the Democrats take the White House
I think that is a real danger. When has the Bush White House ever done anything for reasons that weren't purely political?
August 10th, 2007 at 8:50 pmOK by me.
Comment by Arthur C.
massive civil protest ???… [...] either way I am ready
Comment by had enough — August 10, 2007 @ 8:36 pm
see you at the barricades...
August 10th, 2007 at 8:50 pm...
#42 Peter C.,
You are right in your description and assessment of the situation.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:52 pm"Daddy, I won't have to go, will I?
August 10th, 2007 at 8:55 pmDaddy?
DAAAAAAADDY!"
Rangle has a draft plan:
All, each and every one, no loop holes, no deferments, EVERYBODY would be drafted. If this were the case including no exemptions for going into war - if it could really be enforced, then bring it on... then we would see no more f'ing bs war on terror.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:56 pmsee you at the barricades… Comment by katy
If it happens, it'll be a lot different this time around. This time, the war hawks are miniscule in number and intellectually irrelevant.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:57 pmbeing arrogant; no doubt they will exempt those enrolled in college
August 10th, 2007 at 8:59 pm#48
Hi Katy,
I am still waiting for "p" the "Patton wanna-be" and "CT" the "MacArthur wanna-be" to respond to my question in #38 (or thereabouts if someone gets deleted).
Why wait for the draft?
The trollies are remarkably quiet on this particular thread ...
August 10th, 2007 at 9:00 pm"I don't want to see a single war millionaire created in the United States as a result of this world disaster. "
President Franklin Roosevelt on war profiteers during world war II.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:01 pmInitiate the draft but make ALL CHICKENHAWKS TROLLS/ YOUNG RETHUGLIANS and ROMNEYS BOYS go FIRST.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:02 pmdon't hold your breath, beavis...
August 10th, 2007 at 9:02 pm.
Fastest way to end this illegal Clusterf@ck in Iraq! Maybe even get some of the Romney Boy Scout Mormon Tabernacle Choir into the fray. Afterall, he is the Senior Hawk in the Repug Chickenhawk Circle Jerk.
Go Selective Service!!!
August 10th, 2007 at 9:16 pm1) So Mr. Pee, the recruiter's office is down the street. They're waitin for ya. Take yer dumbass buddy ct with you. Oh wait! You're re-PUB-licans! You work for Romney instead of fighting the "great war" of our generation. Cowards.
2) I was marching in the 60's and I'll be there again. This agression will not stand, man.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:18 pmCT already explained, and I reposted...
Re-posting your own messages? How tiresome.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:27 pmLute is a scapegoat not someone who formulates policy. He's there to take the blame. He hasn't said anything new in this interview about the draft; he was just asked a question that was beyond his approved talking points and said that "it wasn't ruled out".
If he had introduced the subject of a draft, this might have been interesting. As it is, it really only shows that he's a toy dog with a very short leash.
The Republicans would never initiate a draft; they'd much prefer to swell the ranks of the military with the economically underpriveledged. They can achieve this more easily by continuing to destroy the middle class.
Once the permanent bases are finished, they will pull out the majority of the troops, leaving only those necessary to secure the oilfields. By then, the air war with Iran will have finished and the troops will be needed to protect Haliburton as they construct bases to protect the Iranian oil.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:29 pmsee you at the barricades… Comment by katy
The masses were in the streets over the so called war during the Nam years... I don't believe it was a known fact that event was over lies until later. As we all know Iraq is one profiteering event over lies can you imagine the outrage this time around?
August 10th, 2007 at 9:30 pm"p" / "CT"
Your philosphy / philosophies re: the virtues of an all volunteer army is one thing. That is a policy discussion.
But BOTH of you not only support this war - but have hurled insults at those who are against it. You have even given thought to which branch you would serve in - if drafted.
Your decision to support the war, yet not get involved until when and if there is a draft - is a personal decision on your part.
But, given all of your "rah rah" - it begs an extremely obvious question ...
Why wait.
I'm just looking for some clarity in that decision making process.
To try to shift it to a "policy" issue and then hide behind that is ... pretty weak, frankly.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:36 pmp, Len, yellow-cur, michael, & other trolls; Getting drafted isn't so bad. Me, been there, done that. Lookit at what u get. In addition to the pay, u get so travel at government expense around the world(Iraq/Afghanistan/Iran), expert training(on the use of hand grenades & M-16s), fullfilling your proclaimed patriotism, a chest full of medals, 30 days paid vacation/year, 3 meals a day-free, along with a free supply of clothes, government-paid health care. So sign up today.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:38 pmBring up the draft and all marketing illusions about this "war" being some kind of WWIII crucial to our survival are simply blown away, because almost no one in this country really believes that. If they did we would see some serious volunteerism and shared sacrifice as in WW II. Bush and his cowardly facist supporters are only okay with this war when someone else is fighting it.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:41 pmIve been calling our senators and representatives once a week demanding they restart the draft or withdraw.
how many of you do the same?
August 10th, 2007 at 9:48 pmp and CT are trolls; they are fictional characters, so they can't actually sign up to fight. Their author would never dream of being in the military. He, like Romney's sons, is working on a much more critical mission - politics, and is much more interested in battling the real enemy - Democrats and progressives.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:51 pmLet the poor kids enlist and go fight...the military seems to be working quite well for them
August 10th, 2007 at 9:55 pmVerbalKint
August 10th, 2007 at 9:56 pmI agree.. if we were truly attacked, attacked that is by another nation, most would not hesitate to go to war for our country. But after all the lies and sham, how can we ever trust what is the truth?
#75 I think there is a lot of truth in what you say. Some of these trolls no doubt work for political outfits, hired to simply disrupt and vandalize progressive blogs. I picture college Republican types, maybe doing a volunteer or low pay internship for the RNC or Karl's shop or whatever.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:58 pm#75 You're right Peter...these guys are paid to come in and fu(k up the conversation...piss a few of us off...then they run off like the pussy's they are. At 10 cents a word they make enough to keep them in weed and doritos.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:58 pmOld Hack
August 10th, 2007 at 9:59 pmI too call congress and I am always amazed how quickly I get in - which means there are not many of us calling.
The return of the draft would erase about 40 years of our nation's moral progress. All of our progress occured during the hiatus of years 1977-1981 and 1993-2001. The remainding 28 years have been pure disaster.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:59 pmComment by Uncle Ho — August 10, 2007 @ 9:38 pm
Doc,
We all know this bunch of trolls aren't up for that kind of commitment; they want more than what we had in Vietnam.
And besides, war is for the lower class to fight, they just want the spoils of war, no fuss no muss.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:01 pmI've been advocating for at least a few months to totally ignore these trolls. But that would be like asking everyone to quit smoking to run the tobacco companies out of business huh?
August 10th, 2007 at 10:03 pm#77 I see it as a major problem that Americans will now become gun shy and isolationist in the wake of the Bush/Iraq debacle. We need a strong military, and we need to project power to a certain extent (without being a imperial bully, of course). At some point in the future it might be strongly in our interest to make war against another nation, but the bad experience of Iraq will make it more difficult to achieve consensus to do so. This is just one of many forms of damage wreaked by Bush the Destroyer that will haunt this country for decades to come.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:04 pmBush said he was against nation-building. He still is.
Nation-destroying, that's his specialty.
The Iraqis, and ours.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:06 pmI see the megalomaniac Cheney's bloody hands in this--he needs a draft to invade Iran! The brown shirts are coming out of mothballs!
August 10th, 2007 at 10:07 pmTrolls are a very clever construction; they are designed to prevent discussion in the public arena. They are intentionally unpleasant and abusive because they are meant to convince you that it is unsafe to discuss politics with your neighbors. They are incredibly unshakeable in their beliefs because they are meant to make you believe that it is not worthwhile talking to other citizens who might also prove to be closed-minded, unpleasant, and irrational. They are meant to limit our comfort-zone so that we will limit the spread of our ideas. If they can make it so unpleasant to talk politics in an anonymous forum, we will be less inclined to speak to our neighbors and thus learn that we are not lone voices of reason, but members of a large and refreshingly sane majority. Then, we will also begin to disbelieve the myth of a huge evangelical voting block which votes on touch-screen voting machines in numbers just large enough to win. Real people are not this irrational and disgusting; they would dissolve in their own bile.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:08 pmI think we should have a draft... and the children of members of Congress and any Presidential Candidate and the President have to have a mandatory service first before anyone else's. And that includes Mitt Romney's kids... especially Mitt Romney's kids.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:09 pm#75 You’re right Peter…these guys are paid to come in and fu(k up the conversation…piss a few of us off…then they run off like the pussy’s they are. At 10 cents a word they make enough to keep them in weed and doritos.
Comment by Pat
You hear them calling in on talk radio.. lying to the public how great the so called war is going. The host usually trips them up, asks questions they should know but do not. And these trolls have the same demeanor...
August 10th, 2007 at 10:10 pmAt 10 cents a word they make enough to keep them in weed and doritos.
Comment by Pat — August 10, 2007 @ 9:58 pm
Pat, trust me when I say these idiots don't smoke weed. Were they to do so, they would realize that much of what they believe about the world doesn't actually make any sense. Most people have a mild reaction to this drug, but there is a small cohort that flips out, in some cases so badly they wind up in the emergency room. These trolls would fit into that cohort.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:13 pmOur beloved president should instate the draft in June of next year.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:15 pmThat way the Repukelikin candidate will have to agree or repudiate his party's leader. Bye Bye repukelikins...
It's time to turn the page on garbage politics.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0807/5326.html
It's time for Obama. Black, white, female, male, whatever. We just need someone who can lead with a good head on his or her shoulders. Hillary's too invested in this Iraq mess to the point where she's lying or in denial about her wrong vote for the war. Enough already. Iraq is a side show to the real war against bin Ladin and al Qaeda in Pakistan. We need a leader who can disengage in Iraq and focus us on Pakistan.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:16 pmWhat actually gets me is that I have visited more nations than W in my lifetime. What really amazes me is that my granddaughter learned Amerec (Did I get that right?) and was able to identify descrepancies in the audio vs. the creep-line rendition after one watch of "The Passion". She has her father's affinity for language.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:18 pmpossible draft?
Kucinich looks better all the time. He sees the war on terror for what it really is and has been very outspoken about bringing the troops home now.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:21 pmI think Trolls are here to sew doubt in the minds of the silent readers. Trolls are inconvincible by design; if we engage with them, we will never win them over. It is our job to use them to highlight the deceptions of Karl Rove and thus arm the silent readers with knowledge of how the Republican Party and the mainstream media will try to deceive them.
If we all do this, trolling will become counterproductive and they might all go away. As the King from Princess Bride says, “Won’t that be nice!â€
August 10th, 2007 at 10:21 pm#90 Peter, I agree. There has been a lot of loudmouthed intimidation on the right (think of Limbaugh, Coulter, and O'Reilly) that is crafted to embolden the dittoheads to act like loudmouth jerks in public discourse. I noticed that after Bush was elected some Republicans got a lot louder about their foul politics, and started swaggering and mouthing off in inappropriate social settings. On the other hand, I am seeing a lot of sheepishness from these same people more recently. This is what hurts so much for many Republicans: not just to have been wrong, but to have been loudly, obnoxiously, unbearably wrong. A lot of these people are struggling psychologically to confront being wrong, and many simply can't do it.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:22 pmWhat actually gets me is that I have visited more nations than W in my lifetime. What really amazes me is that my granddaughter learned Amerec (Did I get that right?)
Comment by WaltTheMan — August 10, 2007 @ 10:18 pm
Aramaic is the name of the language.
I read that Bush didn't even own a passport when he started campaigning for president. He doesn't have to work for a living, he has millions in inherited money, and he never, ever travels internationally? This just goes to show how incurious our president is about the world around him.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:28 pmI'll bet p-brain doesn't travel abroad, either.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:29 pmNo, the trolls aren't paid by Karl Rove or the RNC or Richard Mellon Scaife or some other rightwing a-hole. It's simpler than that, and in a way sadder.
The trolls are people who hate themselves and hate their lives. So they come here to try and make other people feel even worse than they themselves do. They're self-loathing socioipaths.
That's you, CT aka p aka Mr P... that "P" stands for "pathetic."
August 10th, 2007 at 10:30 pm"Oh, I forgot to mention that neoconservatives WANT hard-working parents to lose their children in the war."
Another HUGH conspiracy.
Comment by p
Nah, they just don't care, if it doesn't involve them personally.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:30 pmSounds GREAT to me. I'm all for a draft.
It's about time that some of those big mouthed chickenhawks had a chance to put their money where their stupid mouths are.
"Bring it on"!!!
August 10th, 2007 at 10:31 pmIt’s not just a Post-Modern Liberal buzz word.
Comment by p
It's been around far longer than I, and I'm twice your age...punk...
August 10th, 2007 at 10:33 pmComment by VerbalKint — August 10, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
Thanks for the correction. I got my first passport when I was about two months old and it was Diplomatic.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:34 pmNot that I'm for a draft, but I'm guessing that would be the thing that would finally wake the sleeping and/or uncaring masses up. I bet the ranks of the IMPEACH NOW crowd would suddenly swell to the point of forcing Congress to act.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:34 pmOn my part, I would never run off to hiding if called (e.g., Canada), and probably wouldn’t care to sift throught the deferment system, either. Therefore, I’d be up and ready to serve in any branch and in any capacity (preferably the Marine
Y'know. If there was like, a draft 'n' stuff. Otherwise, I'm happy to sit on my ass. But if there was a draft, the Marines. Definitely.
What impressive resolve. What astonishing courage. What manifest faith in the Glorious GWOT and Dear Leader's wisdom.
Dear christ do you really not have even a clue how utterly pathetic you sound?
August 10th, 2007 at 10:37 pm"William “The Bloody†Kristol WANTS working-class people to die in the war! I heard that one on a thread below!"
Comment by p
The big joke in conservative circles back in the 80's was to sneer at military enlistees as "fodder units."
August 10th, 2007 at 10:38 pmI'm all for a draft, as long as it comes from a tap.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:40 pmThe Draft?: Bring It On!!!!! lets bring this Sh!t to a head & pop this volcanic zit
August 10th, 2007 at 10:41 pmDraft horses.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:42 pmIt’s a HUGH conspiracy to trick the silent readers.
Comment by p
Your a detriment to your 'team' P and have not won anyone over to your HUGH [sic] conspiracy of idiotism. Your misinformation did not help your 'team' to win in 2006, it worked to help you lose.
But please, keep up your irrational bleating, pretty soon even you might believe it.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:42 pmI don’t get it. Is that satire?
Comment by p
I'm not surprised... It's not satire - it's toxically-cynical elitism.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:42 pm"I’m all for a draft, as long as it comes from a tap."
jeez, you had to, now I'm thirsty and the fridge is empty
August 10th, 2007 at 10:43 pmIs that satire?
Are you satire?
August 10th, 2007 at 10:44 pmmeeting the demands of security will definitely involved not just prior to draft demands but surely, it's all about prayers..
August 10th, 2007 at 10:45 pmWhat's the matter, P? Can't believe that conservatives actually regard soldiers as fodder for their wars of choice?
August 10th, 2007 at 10:46 pmmeeting the demands of security will definitely involved not just prior to draft demands but surely, it’s all about prayers..
Comment by ford rims — August 10, 2007
4 lug, or 5?
August 10th, 2007 at 10:46 pmp -- Comment by p
That's the most sensible thing you've said all day, CT. Good work! Coherence is just around the corner.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:48 pmis there a draft in here?
August 10th, 2007 at 10:48 pmif the draft gets re-instated, then not one person who approved it will get re-elected, because at this point, theres more support to get people OUT of iraq then to send more people INTO iraq. i wonder how hard it is to resist being drafted without hauling ass to another country? anyone know?
August 10th, 2007 at 10:49 pmHoly Christ, as a Vietnam veteran I haven't been this excited since I got discharged in 1970. We all may be witnessing history here, like Ali reclaiming the heavyweight crown for the 3rd time. Yellow-bellied, no nuts Ted Nugent who boasted of urinating and defecating in his pants for an entire week (Detroit Free Press July 15, 1990) to avoid the draft to serve his country during the Vietnam War. It is highly possible that he may blow chips into his cowardly jockeys again to show Americans his true colors - YELLOW. Although, I don't want to get my hopes up he'll probably wear PAMPERS this time around to cover up his cowardly stench.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:50 pmI think the closer one gets to the truth, the more the Republicans will insist that such a thing would involve a 'HUGH' (or perhaps just a huge) conspiracy.
But, why would hiring a few smarmy College Republican-types to create fictional personas on liberal blogs take so many conspirators?
August 10th, 2007 at 10:53 pmRaven ~ Draft Beer!
August 10th, 2007 at 10:53 pmwow, thats nasty. a week? id probably skip town/the country before i did that. i mean, really, common sense goes a long way, and crapping in your pants for a week is NOT common sense.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:54 pmComment by Peter C — August 10, 2007 @ 10:53 pm
because as long as it looks like theres a lot of people backing them, they'll scream and shout loud as they can, and hope people believe them. and if they can keep it up long enough, people WILL start to believe them, no matter how much bs they're screaming.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:57 pmhow hard it is to resist being drafted without hauling ass to another country
Ask Dick Cheney. He got five deferments.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:57 pm"Well, I need some proff first."
Comment by p
OFU = "One Fodder Unit." Attributed to George H. W. Bush Sr., by Al Martin in his article: "The Ambassador Wilson Affair: The End of Karl Rove -- And George Bush?" Published September 2, 2003, http://www.almartinraw.com/
August 10th, 2007 at 10:57 pmThat’s the most sensible thing you’ve said all day, CT. -- Comment by Arthur C
sometimes my info gets deleted, so I need to refresh it with a quick post -- Comment by p
So, Mr P. finally admits he's CT.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:59 pmComment by Arthur C. — August 10, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
i would, but i dont want him to suck the soul out of my body.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:59 pmsometimes my info gets deleted, so I need to refresh it with a quick post. Comment by P
Okey Dokey....
Am I supposed to care?
August 10th, 2007 at 11:00 pmI dare them to start drafting people to die for the oil consortiums. That will be the end of the Republicans, no doubt about it.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:00 pmIts clear the reason the White House hasn't reinstated the draf is because they know that no republican is going to get elected as long as there is a draft, and probably for sometime thereafter.
Bush is pushing soldiers to 3 and even 4 tours (I've heard of some doing 5) because he knows he'll be out of office soon, and since they know a democrat is going to win next year, they will simply start a war with Iran and hand the next president a no win scenario, where he'll be forced to reinstate the draft himself to meet with the military requirements necessitated by all the new enemies of America created by the Bush administration.
:|
Chances are, they most likely want a democrat to win, thus handing the new democratic President a massive global clusterf$#k and a no win scenario.
In other words we're screwed.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:02 pmyou put it into words, bartlebee...
ugh.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:09 pm.
We should definitely get a draft. It would mean soldiers wouldn't have to endure 5th and 6th deployments to Iraq.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:10 pmBut, why would hiring a few smarmy College Republican-types to create fictional personas on liberal blogs take so many conspirators?
Comment by Peter C
Mr P {Shirley Ardell Mason aka Sybil} here has multiple personalities and often converses with itself.
i would, but i dont want him to suck the soul out of my body.
Comment by astrocreep
That would require you to have a soul. I see nothing but darkness around you.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:10 pmComment by Tau — August 10, 2007 @ 11:10 pm
haha you know me so well already. howd you know im surrounded by darkness? is it because im in a dark room??
August 10th, 2007 at 11:13 pmThe 'conspiracy' theme comes out when they have to deride because they cannot discredit. It's a bullying tactic. You'll catch BillO, Coulter and Limbaugh using it all the time (if your stomach is strong enough). The assault on the public forum is a key strategy of Karl Rove and the Republicans. Their unpleasantness is strategic and aimed at suppressing discussion among citizens in general and participation in elections in particular. This is why our troll infestation characters should not be engaged directly. A vicious shouting match serves their purposes very well.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:14 pmyou put it into words, bartlebee…
ugh.
.
Comment by katy — August 10, 2007 @ 11:09 pm
It pretty much sucks huh?
The truth is the republicans know exactly where they're going with this. They screwed it up, and now are going to let Americans bleed and die in Iraq, sending them over and over again, until Bush is out of office, and then dump the whole kit and bamboozle into the democrats lap.
Suks a big one.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:16 pmPeter C, Amen.
Time to really pay attention and realize the corrosive power of cynicism that is fostered by the troll army.
Perhaps we should just get an enlsitment form and post it everytime a tickles the keys.
-GSD
August 10th, 2007 at 11:18 pmsorry lefties, you lose again!!!
Comment by pussee — August 10, 2007 @ 11:13 pm
Nope.
The American soliders dying in Iraq are the ones who lose.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:18 pmBush and Cheney are enacting a slow bleed policy to drag the war out until 2009.
Why are they slow bleeding the military?
-GSD
August 10th, 2007 at 11:19 pmBARTLEBEE @ 150,
I fear you might be right about Iran.
This is why impeachment is so important. We can't let the Administration have 18 more months to screw things up. We've got to get them out of office as quickly as possible.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:20 pmMr P. = CT = p is so ill-informed that he thought if he was drafted he'd get to pick which branch of the armed services he wanted to serve in. See posts 28 & 30.
Then he declined to state why, as a war hawk, he hasn't enlisted even in the absence of a draft.
What worthless bag of dog snot he is.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:21 pmThe truth is the republicans know exactly where they’re going with this. They screwed it up [...]
Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 10, 2007 @ 11:16 pm
yep... what i heard years ago on randi... "planned chaos"...
ugh.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:22 pm.
This is why our troll infestation characters should not be engaged directly. A vicious shouting match serves their purposes very well.
Comment by Peter C — August 10, 2007 @ 11:14 pm
Thank you, Peter C.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:23 pmBush, Cheney, Rove and your porgeny must be the first to enlist. Those who choose to wage wars must be the first to enlist.
Washington, Eisenhower . . . these were leaders who knew the repercussions of war. If you're not in for the fight, get out of the game.
What have we got? A bunch of drft dodgers calling for a draft to support an illegal war.
If we were to wage war on Iran in addition ot Iraq and Afghanastan, no doubt, we'd need more soldiers. Are the twins busy?
George W. Bush, you dishonor this country as well as the office of the Presidency.
Quit.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:23 pmI agree impeachment is critical, but what exactly can we do?
We have the votes in the House to impeach, but we don't have the votes in the Senate to ratify. We have a 1 vote majority in the Senate. And even IF Joe Lieberman doesn't live up to his promise to switch parties if impeachment comes before the Senate, and even IF we could convince 1 3rd of the republicans to vote to ratify it, we still have DEMOCRATS who aren't on board with it.
I believe impeachment has to occur, and I think it will. I'm just afraid its going to take an ephiphany event or revelation for the democrats and enough republicans in the Senate, figure it out.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:25 pmvery good thoughts and insight, peter c...
August 10th, 2007 at 11:25 pm...
The amazing shifting enemy in Iraq.
*Saddam and his WMDs.
*Saddams sons.
*Baathist elements and dead enders.(Remember the deck of cards)
*Sunni insurgents.
*Al Qaeda in Iraq.
*Shiite militias.
*Iranian backed Shiite militias.
We are at war with Oceania.
-GSD
August 10th, 2007 at 11:27 pmwe still have DEMOCRATS who aren’t on board with it.
thats why, as far as politicians are concerned, democrats and republicans are essentially the same. they have their shouting matches, feign shock and disgust, but when it comes down to it, they're all self serving materialistic bastards.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:28 pmI sometimes wonder if a unilateral (unprevoked or response to false flag attack) act of war on Iran WOULD be enough to get the chymp impeached.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:29 pmDems can't accomplish impeachment on their own. To impeach, Republicans in the Senate have to be convinced that their own futures depend on eliminating Bush. Remember, it wasn't the Dems who forced Nixon to resign: it was the GOP, desperately trying to save their own sorry asses.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:29 pmApparently, Laura has good aim with a car. Hook her up with a Humvee . . . hopefully, one with a little extra protection.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:31 pmMy pleasure, RoS,
It is difficult not responding, though; it is natural to see these comment forums as converations, because the regulars on the site do talk back and forth. But the troll personas are fiction. It helps to think of the author behind the character and see the reasons for their posts. That's where the deception lies.
Luckily, these are bad authors and their characters are very poorly drawn. Real people just aren't that pigheaded, as much as Rove would like us to think they are.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:35 pmis it now? then leave.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:35 pm#167
Doesn't any one have leverage on Lieberman? The guy's not golden. He's got interests, he's got flaws. He may even have a heart.
Surely dems are better policos than this.
He's played dems too well. Get a clue. Fight back.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:36 pmWOW Pee! I've had my comments censored on this site. Yikes. I really must have been tragically out of line.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:37 pmWell my comments are not appearing either.
So I don't think its censoring unless they're trying to shut down the whole site.
Most like a technical issue.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:39 pmI take it back. They let me post these comments, but my actual comment, which has NO profanity in it, and just talks about a related topic to the board, they won't let me post for some reason.
Somethings, or someone is really screwed up.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:41 pmIts the Iran thing. They don't want anyone talking about the administrations plans to invade Iran.
Thats PATHETIC.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:42 pmfound this on the SALI thread... check it out!
So p, and the other little trolls go to George Mason U in Northern Virginia. That’s all you need to know. Max Blumenthal did a great little film in July 2007 about a meeting of a group of college young republicans. You can find it on youtube and on Max’s website: http://maxblumenthal.com/archives/171.
Who knows maybe some of the small-minded trolls here have starring roles. Watch them squirm as they try to explain why they are not in the military. At the end is a sad scene in which a poor kid keeps trying to convince himself as to how gay he isn’t. Max has another great video about the christian right that is truly scary.
Comment by KayT — August 10, 2007 @ 6:03 pm
thanks KayT
August 10th, 2007 at 11:43 pm!
Doesn’t any one have leverage on Lieberman?
Nope. He's in office for 6 years, and afterwards will retire to a cushy rightwing "think" tank. Lieberman answers to nothing but his crippled soul.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:43 pmWhat has happened to Think Progress?
I've tried to post even very mild comments on the site, and for whatever reason, they don't seem survive the censors.
Did Rupert Murdoch buy TP in the WSJ deal?
August 10th, 2007 at 11:44 pmBartlebee, they have their lame ass filters up again?
August 10th, 2007 at 11:45 pmcurmudgeon. I tried to do something about it last night. Apparantly, I failed.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:45 pmHas TP been told by the Dark Side to tame down their sites to Faux Noose's standards or risk being shut down forever?
It sure seems that way.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:46 pmThey caved for 5 minutes...today they are back to their old ways. Attytood, here I come.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:46 pmComment by curmudgeon
Shaddap, Mr P.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:47 pmBartlebee, they have their lame ass filters up again?
Comment by JPark — August 10, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
I don't know J, but someones nuking almost ALL of my posts.
I just told the TP Censor to go F himself.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:49 pmAnybody that is totally sick of TP's arbitrary BS...go to Attytood. Will Bunch told me we are welcome there.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:49 pmWHats the URL J?
August 10th, 2007 at 11:49 pmMARIO, I went absolutely ballistic last night and they dropped their filters. Apparently they had a meeting today and decided they are not fans of their regulars.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:50 pmDraft Young Repukes!!
Draft Chickenhawks!!
August 10th, 2007 at 11:51 pmhttp://www.attytood.com. They are based in Philly and are Phillycentric but it is a great site.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:51 pmWHats the URL J? -- Comment by MARIO
Google it, dumbass.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:51 pmJ ,Its me, Bartlebee. I had to change handles to get anything through.
They are like blognazis or something.
I'm sick of it.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:52 pmGoogle it, dumbass.
Comment by Arthur C#nT. — August 10, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
Your mom already did google it for me.
Or was that gargle it for me?
:|
Oh well, whatever, she took care of it.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:53 pmTP dies not with a bang, but a wimper.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:54 pmArthur, gargle (or was it google) this, teabaggee.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:55 pmBARTLEBEE ,
My censored comments didn't include any profanity either, they were apparently just not fit for human consumption.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:55 pmThe truth is the republicans know exactly where they’re going with this. They screwed it up, and now are going to let Americans bleed and die in Iraq, sending them over and over again, until Bush is out of office, and then dump the whole kit and bamboozle into the democrats lap.
Suks a big one.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 10, 2007 @ 11:16 pm
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner! I believe you've summed it up in a nutshell.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:55 pmWell if there is a draft, then all 5 of Romneys' sons must be drafted.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:56 pmComment by MARIO — August 10, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
My mom's dead. You must have snot for brains, what kind of moron can't figure out to google "attytood"?
August 10th, 2007 at 11:56 pmComment by curmudgeon
Shaddap, Mr P.
Comment by Arthur C. — August 10, 2007 @ 11:47 pm
arthur - curmudgeon is a friendly... not mr.p...
...
all - i've had no troubles posting... just f.y.i. ...
time to unfold and watch olberman, late edition...
g'nite...
August 10th, 2007 at 11:57 pmWhat worthless bag of dog snot he is.
Comment by Arthur C. — August 10, 2007 @ 11:21 pm
Uh, Arthur, I don't think that's snot ....
August 10th, 2007 at 11:57 pmIts definately some little prick censoring.
I just tried to post my original comment that they kept deleting, under this handle, and they STILL nuked it, so they're clearly being wimps.
I think its time to stop supporting wimpy blogs.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:57 pmArthur C. Go Google yourself you little crap eater. Maybe not clever but appropriate.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:57 pmDisturbia, go to Attytood. He is going to have one popular blog.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:58 pmJPark? Blow me, doughbrain.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:59 pmThey just won't let me post this one comment.
All I am doing is predicting one possible scenario that may occur and its like they don't want it printed for some reason. No profanity. Its loosely related to the thread topic.
But they just keep deleting it. I've tried to post it now about 12 times and they just keep nuking it.
August 10th, 2007 at 11:59 pmThe very idea of a standing army is antiAmerican in the extreme. The founders didn't want it knowing full well that sociopaths like Bush would come along and use good, if misguided, young patriots to line the pockets of fatcat friends. They have been proven prescient and right over the years, much to America's shame. A draft is a perfectly good way to fight justifiable wars, and in real wartime, is hardly needed, as all patriots understand the urgency of the cause. On the other hand, attacking and occupying innocent sovereign nations for financial and political benefit can only be done with a standing volunteer force, which is why there shiould be only the barest force needed for maintenance. The idea that we are in a war is laughable. The 19 that attacked us are already dead, and the supposed ringleader was freed by Bush, after Bush surrendered to all of his desires. Bush immediately lost the first and only battle, and then proceeded to take out his anger and frustration on the weakest country he could find. It was illegal, it was immoral, it was unnecessary, and it amounts to mass murder, war-profiteering and treason. Impeachment is the only solution, and those who don't think there would be enough votes don't understand what a trial would reveal. Bush would be convicted virtually unanimously, as anyone who voted against conviction would find his or her political career dead forever. the trolls are simpletons, tricked into disrupting boards like this by appeals to their lizard brains, and their false patriotism, which is really Nazi nationalism. There isn't one among them who hasn't proven to be a racist, a homophobe (in spite of their closetted status), a misogynist and a hypocrite. They're playing a game, and most are not being paid for it, because they're willing dupes of their fascist masters. This has been seen before, only 80 years ago or so. it doesn't matter if we ignore or engage them, it's just a game. the real fight is in the voting booths and on the streets, where you wiull never encounter any of these cowards. p's meltdown earlier was easy to engineer, he melted down twice, just like a 2-year-old. i can accomplish it any time i want, but once done, it's hardly fun any more, so ignoring his lies and propaganda becomes the next move in the game.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:01 amI agree with Bartlebee at 181; I think it's just technical problems. Sure is fun to see Pee's author get so ticked off in his paranoia, though. Some people think the world revolves around them.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:01 amBartlbee -
Bizarre, I really was just joking when I mentioned TP censorship . . . yet my response wasn't posted.
Odd.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:01 amDraft Chickenhawks!!
August 11th, 2007 at 12:02 amArthur, I will pass. I don't go for pity f^cks.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:02 amarthur - curmudgeon is a friendly… not mr.p
I apologize, curmudgeon. Thanks katy.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:03 amPeter C. No, it has been too long too be a "technical problem".
August 11th, 2007 at 12:03 amAlright. Anyone who wants to see the comment that TP doesn't want you to read, follow this link.
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9102706&postID=2143270141519648442
If that link doesn't work just go to
http://www.lydiacornell.com/blog.html and click the latest blog. You'll see it posted at the bottom under my real handle, Bartlebee.
I'm gonna split for now, because this blog has become LAME.
Really, really LAME.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:03 ami need tp for my pee pee!!
tp!! pee pee!!
August 11th, 2007 at 12:04 amWe should only draft liberals to show them what it's like to finally serve in the military.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:04 amChrist, pee-pee is right for once.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:05 amYeah Peter C, perhaps it's my own paranoia, but I see no reason to believe that you are not the Pee, and now trying to sooth our soft dem psyches.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:05 amWe should only draft liberals to show them what it’s like to finally serve in the military.
Comment by Sonny Black — August 11, 2007 @ 12:04 am
You should take a count of how many Dem congressmen have served vs repuke chickenhawks, sonnyboy. conservatives are cowards.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:07 amtp!! pee pee!!
seriously, you're not going to actually take someone seriously when the ir nick is pee pee...and they'r e an obvious REPUKE troll.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:07 amI agree with Bartlebee at 181; I think it’s just technical problems. Sure is fun to see Pee’s author get so ticked off in his paranoia, though. Some people think the world revolves around them.
Comment by Peter C — August 11, 2007 @ 12:01 am
NO.
They ARE censoring.
I cannot post ONE PARTICULAR COMMENT.
I just posted a LINK to THAT COMMENT.
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9102706&postID=2143270141519648442
There it is again.
Go read the ONE COMMENT TP WON'T LET ME POST IN HERE, and see if you can figure out why they are so afraid of this ONE COMMENT
I sure can't.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:07 amNobody is going to Attytood. Nice job liberals. Maybe the right is right.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:08 amI thought the right were sheep.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:09 amWhat's going on with this wibsite? Is it TP or something else?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:10 amTP, we'd really like an answer.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:11 amdidn't eric foreman do the streak, screaming "TP...Pee Pee!!"
August 11th, 2007 at 12:11 amIt is no longer thinkprogress, rocky, it is thinkregress. They are banning and deleting long time posters.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:12 amHave I been banned, TP?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:12 amNot yet, I guess. Do you think you MIGHT want to change your ways? 80% of the liberals have serious questions for you. Do you really want to be KOS lite?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:14 amthis will make you put skidmarks in your shorts.
google "saddam dam"
the shit is about to hit the fan.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:14 amWhy don't liberals serve in the military?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:16 amJPark,
The blogosphere my only be inhabited by middle-aged white men, but take it from a young, well-educated white woman, I will kick your ass. Not in the parking lot, but I'm pretty good. A proven product. You just keep on yapping, I'll keep watching and . . . rodeo!
Pee is invited to the party.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:16 amMy son will be taken to Canada or anywhere else that this dick head can not get his hands on him!!!
August 11th, 2007 at 12:16 amIn fact you are arguing that TP isn’t censoring, when it clearly is!!!
Comment by pee-pee — August 11, 2007 @ 12:04 am
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rocky road, what the f^ck are you talking about? Are you defending TP's deleting and banning of liberals? If so, you are nothing but a worthless troll. Two, a woman? Kicking my ass?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:18 amOK, as an experiment I just tried to post Bartlebee's comment, and it failed to post. Go read it: I can't conceive of a legitimate reason to suppress it.
That really sucks.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:18 amThere should be a draft to give liberals the chance to finally serve in the military.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:19 amignoring his lies and propaganda becomes the next move in the game.
Comment by ronjazz — August 11, 2007 @ 12:01 am
It's the only thing that's going to work, guys.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:20 amWhy should liberals serve in the military? why should they put their lives on the line for Bush's oil profits? Why should anybody? Only the poor need to, and you conservative cowards count on that. We don't need a standing army, and whenever we have one, it gets abused by rich white trash.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:20 amMr. P., you have been deleted plenty.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:21 amThere should be a draft to give liberals the chance to finally serve in the military.
Comment by Sonny Black — August 11, 2007 @ 12:19 am
This is an irrational comment. Don't reply to it.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:21 ambartlebee... i did a copy/paste and tried to post your comment...
no go...
and now, i start having troubles...
and onother thing, guys ... jeesh! i leave for a few minutes
August 11th, 2007 at 12:22 amand come back to see you all at each other's throats!
what the h*ll happened?!
now be nice! -mom
.
TP is so done.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:22 amIt’s the only thing that’s going to work, guys.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 11, 2007 @ 12:20 am
not quite, TRoS, p melted down through a combination of ignoring and pissing him off. That worked very well, indeed. now, nobody takes him seriously except his sock puppets. He has been neutralized.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:22 amLiberals loath military service. That's why there should be a draft, so they will see what it's like to serve country.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:23 amSorry, eater. You aren't a dittohead? :)
August 11th, 2007 at 12:24 amThere are virtually no conservatives in Congress who have served in the military. Do they hate America, or are conservatives just born cowards?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:24 amSonny and his ilk will be the only ones posting when TP is done editing liberal comments.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:25 amconservatives loathe Americans. that's one reason they don't serve in Bush's military. The fact that they're cowards is another.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:25 amThings you can't talk about on TP...liberal things and Israel.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:26 amAnd some things Mr. P likes.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:26 amMr. P,
Ronjazz needs to learn some respect for the US. He needs to be drafted and shown what it's like to serve country.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:27 amAnd apparently, whatever Bartlebee said (which, unless he spelled the swear word out, I don't see why).
August 11th, 2007 at 12:27 amI know, P. They have become irrelevant over night. Ok, 3 nights.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:28 amDid Rupert buy out TP?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:29 amI've had posts which didn't go through, too. I just wrote a long response to RonJazz (214) about standing armies, declaring war, and the importance of reducing the power of the executive through impeachment. I don't think it is censorship from TP, though. There is plenty of technology in between and complex computer systems have plenty of benign bugs.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:29 amSorry, eater. You aren’t a dittohead? :)
Comment by JPark — August 11, 2007 @ 12:24 am
that would be mr.p... you missed the clue...
August 11th, 2007 at 12:30 am...
I reported Bartlebee to TP. They are taking corrective action against him.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:30 amNo, Petey, it is not censorship. All of a sudden, they are deleting posts by long time commenters with absolutely no explanation. Nope, not censorship.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:30 amTrolls who never served talking to each other about a draft. Too funny. i smell more sock puppets. Sonny is another of Sybil's imaginary friends. another coward.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:30 amLibs have their comments deleted because they are trolls.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:31 amkaty, I didn't miss anything. I know exactly who he is.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:31 amThe liberals here have become the trolls. I've been saying this for quite some time.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:32 amI don't think a debate by someone self-named shiteater would be very productive, so piss off. Lots of ignorant paranoia around here from the rightards tonight.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:32 amLes Claypool is god.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:32 amFunny A$$mask, I have never seen your name. FU AND TP.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:34 amShiteater,
Ronjazz is the propaganda unit for al qaeda.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:34 amronjazz, are you reflexively defending TP?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:35 amTP and I agree on everything.
I never get deleted.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:35 amSonny, you are kinda dumb, no?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:36 am262,
Trolls spew bile and get through, but liberals are censored??? That wouldn't explain pee's meltdown. Did he get censored for criticizing Israel?? Not so likely, I think.
I read too slowly to know the contents of the deleted posts whose holes I see occasionally. They seem to be especially vile, though, by the reactions that get posted.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:36 amI wonder why conservatives are such cowards? Is it because they are stupid, and prone to being manipulated? is it because they think that anyone values them in any way? that would be the height of egotism, to think that a conservative has any value in a liberal democracy. Perhaps it's just that they're born that way.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:36 amYou should have seen me around before, Jpunk. I've slapped around many of the liberal trolls here for fun.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:36 amLOL, Eggy. I used to only get deleted when I got out of line. No longer.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:37 amMr. P,
When the libtards say that you melted down, what are they talking about?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:37 amHas anyone here been slapped around?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:38 amA$$mark, I have been around for years and have never seen you. What are you smoking? Or is it a new name? I think you are just full of it since you don't claim to have "slapped me around".
August 11th, 2007 at 12:38 amI reported Bartlebee and a lot of the libs to TP for TOS violations. It looks like it is starting to work.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:38 amLOL I was busy surfing the news and then come back here to see a GOPer troll convention. You all need to go hang out on RedState.com.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:38 amSonny, they meant he started acting like a moron...like you.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:38 amFor what it's worth, I've saved comments before trying to post them on this site, and when they don't appear here, have then pasted the same exact comments on competing websites, where there has been no problem.
Could be that the extreme censorship issue is isolated to TP rather than the progressive blogosphere as a whole.
Any other thoughts?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:39 amjeesh... keith probably made a deal - you can run that segment
August 11th, 2007 at 12:39 amwhen i go on vacation...
countdown is running part of david gregory's interview
with tony snow... about 'living with cancer'...
touching...
Peter C, have you read Bartlebee's suppressed post? It's on this page:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9102706&postID=2143270141519648442
...near the end; find "bartlebee."
Why in heaven's name was that censored? Copy it and try posting it yourself.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:39 am"If the thugs in Washington go that route—instituting a draft to fight all the wars they need to fill their bloodlust—that would probably be the beginning of the end for them."
They are not really in it to fill their bloodlust, they are in it to fill their pocket books with cash, you know, cash from us taxpayers.
I think that there should be a requirement that every member of Congress must have at least one child in the military before they can vote on anything involving the military. And if they don't have any eligible children, then they will have to choose a niece or nephew.
Personally I think that at least one year of national service (i.e. the draft) should be mandatory for all citizens of this country. The service can be joining the military or working with non-profit groups to make life better for people. Maybe if our children learn to have a vested interest in their country, they might not be as willing to engage in vanity wars.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:39 amJPunk...it is BrassMASK. Not BrassmaRk. I have been posting here for months. I've never seen you on before. Are you a new little troll?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:40 amWell, I've not been censored. I'm not defending TP, I have no problem at this point. To answer your second question, JPark, yes, Sonny is really dumb. He doesn't even know that the liberals who have served outnumber the conservatives by a good 20 to 1 in Congress currently. He's not as dumb as shiteater, though, and I dont even need to point out why. Suffice it to say that neither of these morons has donned the uniform of anything but a McDonalds.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:40 amEggy, I have never been slapped around. I have not seen too much of the old troll slapping around the liberal thing.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:41 amThey are probably talking about some debate that they think I lost.
Comment by shiteater — August 11, 2007 @ 12:39 am
Safe bet.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:41 amA$$munch, I don't know you. And until recently only righty Rove-teabaggers were trolls (you).
August 11th, 2007 at 12:42 amI have been following your career for a while now, Mr. P, and I have never seen you "melt down." I've seen you deal a smack down, though. We need more like you.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:43 amronjazz, I and several long time posters have been deleted for nothing. Go read Bartlebee's post (on the link since it was deleted here).
August 11th, 2007 at 12:43 amMr. P, When the libtards say that you melted down, what are they talking about? -- Comment by Sonny Black
SB, I have no idea. They are probably talking about some debate that they think I lost. -- Comment by shiteater
Addressed to Mr. P, answered -- in the first person -- by shiteater. He/she's grown very careless with his/her multiple nicks. It must be confusing, juggling all those phony identities.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:44 amSonny, and you finally saw fit to post? Wait, I am not on your Buscemi list, am I???
August 11th, 2007 at 12:44 amIt's an all new ballgame now, JPunk. The liberals are now the trolls here. Look at all the bile they post. It's pure hate and their posts are getting deleted for it. We have won!
August 11th, 2007 at 12:44 amLOL, I have a rebuttal!!!! cons=stupid. This is awfully fulfilling!!!
August 11th, 2007 at 12:45 amSo, since TP has dumbed down the blog, it seems I can only say:
libs = stupid.
Do you have a rebuttal?
Comment by shiteater — August 11, 2007 @ 12:43 am
Bring on the stupid!
August 11th, 2007 at 12:45 amYou just might be right, Brassmask.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:46 amBrassmask > lol you have won nothing. Get over yourself already.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:47 amI know that many of us don't feel all that welcome here anymore. And who the hell would get rid of true and Zooey for f^cking A$$mask?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:47 amArthur you are a jackass if you don't know who Mr. P is. He's a legend here. His work is constantly praised on Redstate for going into the heart of the beast and sticking in his sword.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:49 amJPark > Zooey has been banned from TP or she just got fed up?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:49 amThe country whose name sounds like:
eye + past tense of the word “runâ€
is off limits (for me at least).
Pathetic, TP.
Comment by shiteater — August 11, 2007 @ 12:48 am
You can still go there, as soon as Cheney decides it's time.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:49 amI read too slowly to know the contents of the deleted posts whose holes I see occasionally. They seem to be especially vile, though, by the reactions that get posted.
Comment by Peter C — August 11, 2007 @ 12:36 am
If you want to see the content of the post they wouldn't let me post for some reason, go here.
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9102706&postID=2143270141519648442
Scroll down and read the next to last post by BARTLEBEE. Thats the comment I tried to post in here, but TP for some reason wouldn't permit it.
Maybe you can tell me whats wrong with it.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:50 amZooey has been banned from TP or she just got fed up?
Comment by Jay Randal — August 11, 2007 @ 12:49 am
Jay, I think Zooey is just on the road right now. She e-mailed me earlier and said nothing about being banned.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:50 am"I think there is a lot of truth in what you say. Some of these trolls no doubt work for political outfits, hired to simply disrupt and vandalize progressive blogs. I picture college Republican types, maybe doing a volunteer or low pay internship for the RNC or Karl’s shop or whatever.
Comment by VerbalKint"
You are probably right in your assessment. And yet you encourage them. You play "whack a troll" daily, with your troll whacking posts far outnumbering any posts you make regarding the subject at hand.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:50 amSonny, a legend? Are you stoned. I am one of the few (ok, maybe one) guy that likes him. Legend is WAY over the top.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:50 amMr. P is a legend on TP and praised on RedState blog???
August 11th, 2007 at 12:51 amI got Zooby banned. He made some horrible comments about my mother and I emailed them to TP. Zooby was taken care of.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:51 amWhen you say "libtards" it's like advertising that you have the mind of an 11 year old.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:51 amTP, if you're going to censure, censor these guys: JPark and Sonny Blacl/
Lord knows, they probably hail from an RNC website, block that one too.
Kisses boys.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:51 amJay, I think she was fed up because they were deleting her innocuous posts.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:51 amHis work is constantly praised on Redstate for going into the heart of the beast and sticking in his sword.
Comment by Sonny Black — August 11, 2007 @ 12:49 am
The beast is his puppy.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:52 amNo, Eggy, it is not just a matter of her being on the road. When she left she was pretty pissed at good old TP. And I don't blame her one bit.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:52 amMr. P is praised all the time on Redstate for coming in here and doing battle one against 10 liberal trolls. Some of the other conseravatives and I try to come and help him whenever we can. Mr. P really deserves a lot of respect.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:53 amDr. Dog, you eat your own feces. Your comments are not needed.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:53 am#258
Sonny is right.
This is why I look - with admiration - to the military service of Dick Cheney.
Dick Cheney ... 5 years in the Navy - Purple Heart ...
... uh... I mean 5 deferments, chickenhawk ...
August 11th, 2007 at 12:54 amFine rocky. Go right to the Republican way of censoring.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:54 amEgreggious it is comments like that that get deleted. It's trollish.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:54 amYou do realize I am a liberal, right rocky? And I am railing against TP for using right wing tactics?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:55 amBeavis, Bill Clinton dodged the draft and started 3 wars while he was president.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:56 amDr. Dog,
Bartlbee is a babe. Why the heck would you have a problem with a smooch?
Bad Dog.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:56 amNo, P!!!! Rocky and I are soul mates!!! I hear "You are so beautiful to me" every time he appears!!!
August 11th, 2007 at 12:57 amJpark, it is hard to tell who is liberal and who is conservative at TP anymore. There is something going on.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:57 amMr. P is a legend? -- Comment by Jay Randall
Indeed, Jay, indeed. -- Comment by shiteater
Too funny... since we know Mr P. and shiteater are one and the same person. Posting under multiple nicks, praising himself, for what, to boost his battered ego? That's... pathetic.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:57 amSo RedState people come onto TP just to cause trouble, and disrupt the threads, but if progressives go to that blog they get banned fast.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:58 amBartlebee @331,
I tried what you suggested twice and had no luck. I have no explanation. I don't see anything objectionable about your comment. I did notice that when I followed your link that my system had a message about secure and insecure items (or some such).
I can't think of an algorythm which would pick out any particular words in your comment, though.
I think I've had trouble posting copied text occasionally, though.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:58 amClinton was an ass but he was not a draft dodger, he was a conscientious objector. Bush dodged with the Champagne unit and Cheney dodged by going to school for 15 years.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:58 amHillary Clinton is a woman.
Too controversial?
Conservative or liberal comment?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:58 amArthur, I didn't see shiteater praise Mr. P.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:59 amPee has no time to visit RedState.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:00 amJay, I am not sure that is TP's biggest problem. They are hemorraghing liberal goodwill.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:00 amSigning off now. 'night.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:00 amJPark, no, really didn't get that from you.. . . I'm not real happy with TP's right wing ways but didn't quite see it in your posts. . . . show me the way. . . I'd like a map out of this morass.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:00 amHillary Clinton doesn't have much cleavage. She's not sexy.
Judith Giuliani and Jeri Thompson are knock outs.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:01 amI'm disturbed by this whole thing.
:|
Or maybe I'm just disturbed.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:02 amrocky, I have been here for years and I have never been anything close to a righty. You must have come on in the last couple of days. I have been really pissed at TP. They are DLC wimps now. I am surprised I haven't been banned for being to liberal...yet.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:03 amJPark > TP staff apparently want some trolls on here. For what purpose I have no idea, but perhaps to just to add more posts to each thread.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:03 amThe NY Daily News recently wrote an article about TP and included three blog comments from this site. Two of the three were from conservatives.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:03 am...
i love "heart puppy" too... and borat...
that's all...
well, it was a good conversation till around the 200 mark...
g'nite all...
August 11th, 2007 at 1:03 am...
Sonny, to sink to your level, Kuciniches wife would wipe the floor with Rudy and Fred's byatches.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:04 amBeavis, Bill Clinton dodged the draft and started 3 wars while he was president.
Comment by Sonny Black — August 11, 2007 @ 12:56 am
Finished them too, with not a single American death. that's what a president does. What Bush is doing is what an incompetent psycho does. Bush is losing three wars, simultaneously. And killing more Americans than Bin Laden. And deserted his unit in wartime. he's a real piece of work, but it's no wonder that rightards look up to him, he's still more accomplished than they are. Wearing a McDonalds uniform isn't quite the same, as you know.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:05 am"JPark > TP staff apparently want some trolls on here. For what purpose I have no idea, but perhaps to just to add more posts to each thread."
I am AOK with that. It adds some spice. But to delete liberal posts that are much less offensive is way over the top.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:05 amTP at its heart is a DLC outfit. They were set up to support Hillary Clinton by Jon Pedesta. This should not be a shock to any of you. What they are doing is slowly weeding out the liberal trolls to invite in the DLC types like Harold Ford, Jr. They are not going to get any votes for Hillary with the bile being posted by liberal trolls now. That's one of the reasons the deletions have begun.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:05 amDoes anyone here know why the NY Daily News finds my comments uninteresting?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:05 amRight on, ronjazz, imagine if a Republican could wage a war with no US deaths?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:06 amJudith Giuliani and Jeri Thompson are knock outs.
Comment by Sonny Black — August 11, 2007 @ 1:01 am
Too bad their husbands are such useless pieces of sh*t.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:06 amBack in the day, Ted Turner founded CNN . . . it was a good source of news. Today, the neo-cons have over taken that news outspost and, when when we tune in forCNN, we get a Fox-jaded version of reality. Unfortunately, for a considerable part of the population, they consume and digest what is broadcast to them as the truth.
For us news junkies, we are horrified.
Sorry to rant, but media consolidation is a problem that must be addressed. TP's censorship plays into that paradigm.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:07 amP, honestly I thought of Bush when I saw he goes so far right he touches left.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:07 amSonny, that sounds like a conspiracy theory. Banned.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:08 amDLC cannot force Hillary Clinton down our throats, not on here, nor on Daily Kos.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:08 amIs it OK if I start posting here now?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:08 amThe New York Daily news absorbs bird sh*t very well. Other than that, nothing but trash for the round file.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:08 amJpark, it's not sinking to any level. Kucinich's wife is a babe. He should be proud that he landed her. He also won the recent AFL debate too.
But the knockers on Judith Giulani and Jeri Thompson are insane.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:09 amJust to keep you all in the loop, Wayne has not sent me that fax yet.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:11 amBut the knockers on Judith Giulani and Jeri Thompson are insane.
Comment by Sonny Black — August 11, 2007 @ 1:09 am
anybody can buy them, even you. You werent properly weaned, were you? fixation on breasts is so mature. typical wingnut moron. valuing women for bags of fat.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:11 amSonny Black = The Eck
August 11th, 2007 at 1:11 amJust to keep you all in the loop, Wayne has not sent me that fax yet.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 11, 2007 @ 1:11 am
why don't you tattle on him, ball-licker? that's your strongest move, coward.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:12 amBut Judith and Jeri are having sex with old Republicans. That is just sick.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:12 amAIPAC
August 11th, 2007 at 1:13 amBut Judith and Jeri are having sex with old Republicans. That is just sick.
Comment by JPark — August 11, 2007 @ 1:12 amThey're in it for the money, just Republican whores. Look at the way they dress. Cheap whores.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:14 amBut Judith and Jeri are having sex with old Republicans. That is just sick.
Comment by JPark — August 11, 2007 @ 1:12 am
Are you saying Congressional pages are sick?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:14 am#
TP IS A PROPAGANDA MACHINE!!! IT WILL CENSOR ANYTHING THAT DOESN’T CONFORM TO THE OFFICIAL TP IDEOLOGY!!!
TP = STALINIST!!! TP = STALINIST!!! TP = STALINIST!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by pee-pee — August 11, 2007 @ 12:02 am
You might want to quit your meth habit Mr. Puss.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:14 amI also offered to box Wayne in any ring in the country and he cut and ran.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:14 amAre you saying Congressional pages are sick?
Comment by Egreggious — August 11, 2007 @ 1:14 am
sick of Republican homosexual rape, for sure.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:15 amJudith and Jeri are both well acomplished women.
But they are flat out hot. And it works to their advantage.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:16 amI also offered to box Wayne in any ring in the country and he cut and ran.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 11, 2007 @ 1:14 am
Liar. You cried about being out of shape and whined for 6 month's training.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:16 am"Judith Giuliani and Jeri Thompson are knock outs."
You have some low standards. Dennis Kucinich's wife, on the other hand, could be a swimsuit model. She is quite possibly the must attractive wife of a presidential hopeful ever.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:17 amjudith and Jeri are accomplished high-priced call girls. that works to their advantage.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:17 amYou cried about being out of shape and whined for 6 month’s training.
Comment by ronjazz — August 11, 2007 @ 1:16 am
What is it with Republicans always needing just another six months?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:17 amSonny, here we were thinking that you were the black-suited, red tied, exemplary Christian representative of the Republican Administration . . . OH, NO, you're a BOOB MAN. SONNY BLACK THE BOOB MAN! Who would of thunk? Who's payroll are you on? Well, Boob man, you too can get a pair of monoliths for a mere $13,000. Got a doc here who will give you a pair of beauts for a baker's dozen (times one thousand). You can have non stop fun for years.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:17 amTrollSUK, I agree with him. They DO censor anything that doesn't conform to their ideology. They seem to have lifted the AIPAC ban since I threw my fit but what about the next thing? And why was Bartlebee deleted 3 times (submitted 3 different people)?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:17 amSonny's just a boob.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:18 amChalk up another deleted post. Add to my hatred...please.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:18 amShe is quite possibly the must attractive wife of a presidential hopeful ever.
Comment by sam — August 11, 2007 @ 1:17 am
Aaron Burr's wife was hot.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:18 amHonestly, rocky, I thought he just liked breathing through his mouth.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:19 amObvioiusly you missed my 6 month joke.
I recently offered to box Wayne and so far he has refused to respond. I'll either box him or recieve his fax, either way ball is in his court.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:19 amWas shiteater a Greek philosopher?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:21 amI don't think so, P. She would probably have have seen me and not thought I was a troll.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:21 am"OH, NO, you’re a BOOB MAN. SONNY BLACK THE BOOB MAN!" -rockyroad
This is the quote of the day!
August 11th, 2007 at 1:23 am"What is it with Republicans always needing just another six months?"
and another six inches.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:24 amNo shiteater, I am just shamelesslly myself.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:24 amand another six Congressional pages.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:25 amOur military is over stretched. Bush will never ask for a draft because he knows it will be an unpopular decision. But if Bush thinks this war is a struggle to save civilization, then a draft would be the right step. The absence of a draft puts the burden on those serving in Iraq. If republicans feel strongly about the Iraq war, then serving should be mandatory so rich kids like Romney's don't get to sit out wars their fathers support. Though as a rich kid Bush managed to avoid combat service in Vietnam.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:25 amWhere the hell is McMetal? That liberal little flamer can flame back and forth for hours like a machine.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:25 amShiteater. hahaha
Great handle Mr. P. You are the man!
August 11th, 2007 at 1:27 am#412. I have to laugh. You must be so proud. God bless any women in your life.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:27 amLOL, P, you do get off on right wing talking points sometimes. That is a bit of a turn off to liberal women.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:27 amW**t th* h*ll a*e y** t**k*ng ab**t?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:28 amYo, what's up my brothers?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:28 amrocky, I don't get it. What is with the hostility? You are harder on me than you are Republicans.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:29 am6 months, 6 inches, 6 pages ... It's the sign of the devil!! Can I get a witness. Ramen.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:29 amditto
August 11th, 2007 at 1:29 amWhat is wrong with that comment, P? If someone feels so strongly about the Iraq war that they have to come and comment on a liberal (nominally and maybe not so nominally anymore) I think it is fair to ask them why the he!! they are not over there.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:30 amCue Brassmask and Afghanistan...
August 11th, 2007 at 1:31 amJPark and Sonny Black...Are these two still dating????
August 11th, 2007 at 1:32 amHippies smell.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:32 amAfghanistan is so '03. Those days are over. And now the Taliban is happy we pulled out so they can take over their country again. Opium rocks!!!
August 11th, 2007 at 1:33 amWe have a love-hate relationship.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:33 amRepublicans are odorless.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:34 amYes, because I am so like Sonny it makes you want to vomit. Dumbass.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:34 amSo Mr S**teater, you are Mr. Pee.
Nice.
I'm still watching.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:35 amSo, TP doesn't ACTUALLY want debate? Shocking.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:35 amecho
August 11th, 2007 at 1:35 amSonny, because the only ones fighting are the poor, you moron.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:35 am"Republicans are odorless."
In a Stepford kind of way.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:36 amThe only ones talking about imposing a draft are the Dems, like Charlie Rangle and John F. Kerry, III.
Comment by Sonny Red — August 11, 2007 @ 1:35 am
Did you read the article?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:36 amAs soon as Senator Busybody's kid has to go fight in this idiotic war...it is over.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:36 amRomper room wasn't quite as fascist.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:37 amAnn Coulter smells good? You can't look at that bolemic transexual without thinking Old-Spice and vomit.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:38 amJPark, here you post something about Afghanistan that makes me want to tlke you, then you go compare yourself to Sonny.
Work with me here.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:39 amWell, Mann smells like vomit and eaten away esophagi, that is a given.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:39 amThe only ones fighting are the truly brave.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:40 amrocky, you want to reread the posts?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:41 amYes, Ann Coultier is a beautiful woman. Sam, you would bed her if you had the chance.
Comment by Sonny Red — August 11, 2007 @ 1:40 am
sam, trust me, sex with transsexuals isn't that great.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:42 amI don't believe I ever compared myself to Sonny. I have a weak stomach.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:42 amSonny Red. That's sick.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:42 amECHO.
RUN, CINDY, RUN!!!
August 11th, 2007 at 1:42 amBush went to Texas AND Alabama. What a hero!!!!
August 11th, 2007 at 1:42 amOh, Buscemi is here. YAY!!!!
August 11th, 2007 at 1:43 amCreepy, don't know what TP's policy is acout posting prisoner's cemments (frankly don't even know my own), but "shiteater" is in the pen and he also goes by "mr. pee". Maybe its just me, but I really have no interest in conversing with the "shiteater" or with "mr. pee." If you're censoring your website, block these names.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:43 amI guess I would rather go to Vietnam than Alabama, too.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:43 amSonny, how about sticking to those who are pimping the war? Hmm?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:44 amhttp://www.cindyforcongress.org
August 11th, 2007 at 1:44 amLike you, chickenhawk.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:44 amCoulter is beautiful? What? If you are into necrophilia, sure!!!
August 11th, 2007 at 1:45 amIf a draft is what it takes to git 'er done . . .
August 11th, 2007 at 1:46 amUm, Bush claimed he didn't dodge the draft but EVERYBODY knows that was a lie.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:46 amNo, they are sending kids to die...just not their kids.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:47 amWow, I really don't deal well with felons. They creep me out and anxiety attacks. . . . my typing fails . . . . just time to take the dogs for a walk. If you've ever suffered a little PTSD, you'll understand.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:47 am"Coulter is a bit on the thin side, but she is still beautiful. "
Oh yeh I melt every time I see her Adam's apple and here crypt-keeper grin.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:47 amDLC don't like Cindy running against establishment candidates.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:47 amHonestly, P, your cameraderie with that f^ck, Jake, lowers my estimation of you by about 100.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:48 am"Coulter is beautiful? What? If you are into necrophilia, sure!!!"
I think it's also called intercorpse.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:48 amYeah, Sonny, he only sent them to die for nothing. Der.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:49 amPolitics, Sonny? I thought she was a comedienne?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:50 amAre you stupid, Sonny? He had a Buscemi list. That is making libs look foolish? Ignoring everybody that owns you?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:51 amJoin up, Sonny.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:51 am"Sam…you just don’t like her politics."
Oh thanks. I forgot to mention her polyps-n-ticks.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:52 amChrist, there are too many trolls around for me to rip on TP. That is harsh.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:52 amTime to call the FBI on the King.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:52 am#
Ann Coulter smells good? You can’t look at that bolemic transexual without thinking Old-Spice and vomit.
Comment by sam — August 11, 2007 @ 1:38 am
August 11th, 2007 at 1:52 amAnd she smells like smegma too.
Repeat. Time to call the FBI on the King.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:53 amNo, Sonny, you are the one who wants our kids to die for nothing.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:53 amI too call congress and I am always amazed how quickly I get in - which means there are not many of us calling.
Comment by had enough
You Have to make them repeat the message back to you. first few times i called and didnt do it then when I did she hadnt written it down. You have to open up with "please take this down" then make sure your message is very elaborate.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:54 amTP. Sonny Red is threatening Jpark. Problem? Time to call the FBI. Sonny Red is Sonny Black is Pee is a felon.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:55 amSonny, why exactly are you and Bush sending kids to die? Is it so they can fight them over there so you can go to the mall?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:56 amNow there are 3 “Sonnyâ€s
But I think one is a libtroll.
I was thinking the same thing.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:56 amA$$munch, do you think it was old hack that bumped you? Der.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:57 amOh, please. Sonny didn't threaten JPark. Stop whining!!!
August 11th, 2007 at 1:57 amSorry Jpark,
Play time's over.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:57 amSeriously now. The GOP is dead and all of you righty goose-stepping lemmings killed it. Congrats and good riddance.
August 11th, 2007 at 1:57 amIs my name a play on "Egg"?
August 11th, 2007 at 1:59 amSonny threatens the American way of life. I think it counts.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:00 amConservatives are too quick to send everyone else's kids to war but their own. They avoid combat service as much as they can. The list is long: Bush, Cheney, DeLay, Hastert, Rove, Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Libby, Boehner, Armey, Guiliani, Romney, and Chambliss etc. The list of those who have served in combat includes many democrats: Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Rangel, Cleland, Murtha, Skelton, Stolz, Patrick Murphy, Sestak and Rieckhoff.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:01 amI'm going to head down to the bar and see if I can find something to "earmarK".
August 11th, 2007 at 2:01 amSays Sonny, supporter of the Bridge to Nowhere.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:02 amI bet Sonny is one ugly SOB.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:02 amMy money is on Rangel.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:03 amSonny, I really don't think you get the concept of trollery.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:03 amMurtha is actually a bit conservative for me. Thanks.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:03 amYou demonize Murtha but he is really one of you.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:04 amLOL, ain't that the truth. 5 Sonny's.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:04 amActually, I think Sonny's doing a bang up job so far -- 540 posts and counting . . .
August 11th, 2007 at 2:05 amCongrats, Jake, he is almost coming up on your record for stupid comments. Great.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:05 amAll 5 of us are handsome, Jpark.
Comment by Sonny Red — August 11, 2007 @ 2:04 am
At least 3 of us are.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:05 amEvery post not about the draft is a good post.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:06 amDon't respond to me, by the way, Jake. The list, remember?
August 11th, 2007 at 2:06 amI have Buscemi-ed all of you.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:08 amWe get to post #666 and that's the signal . . .
August 11th, 2007 at 2:08 amLOL, Eggy.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:08 amIt doesn't work that way, A$$munch.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:08 amI'm going to make a comment in 37 seconds. Please don't post at the same time as me.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:10 amMurtha is actually a bit conservative for me. Thanks.
Comment by JPark — August 11, 2007 @ 2:03 am
Yes, Murtha is a conservative democrat. He is pro-life and supports gun owners' rights. Which is why he makes a great leader against this war. I admire his outspokenness on the Iraq war. He's been right about everything so far.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:10 amSonny Muslim is a lame handle.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:11 amHe is right on the war. That is it.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:11 am...says Dr. Dog, the gimpy little wimp.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:11 amWho was the jerk that posted at the time I reserved?
August 11th, 2007 at 2:12 amYeah, Murtha vs. Hoyer. Great choice. Conservative and Conservativerer. Pelosi has to go. Go Sheehan.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:13 amThe repukian troll scum will never support the war by signing up, what are you thinking, that they actually will support it if they personally have any investment, give me a break. They are the scum of the earth, lower than pond scum.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:13 amThe Democrats in Congress need to be used as kindling for the Republican pyre.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:14 amEggy, I think it was a Sonny. They posted at exactly the same time as you so obviously yours doesn't show up :)
August 11th, 2007 at 2:14 amWayne is afraid of a guy who sits by his fax machine all night.
(PS - My name is the coolest)
August 11th, 2007 at 2:15 amBrass, maybe you just had nothing to say.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:15 amEggy, I think it was a Sonny. They posted at exactly the same time as you so obviously yours doesn’t show up :)
Comment by JPark — August 11, 2007 @ 2:14 am
I'm going to kick some Sonny a$$!
August 11th, 2007 at 2:16 amWhich one, Eggy? The stupid one or the more stupid one?
August 11th, 2007 at 2:18 amHey King Shit head....guess I was right then.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:18 amWhich one, Eggy? The stupid one or the more stupid one?
Comment by JPark — August 11, 2007 @ 2:18 am
August 11th, 2007 at 2:19 amYes.
Dr. Dog, you are so tough. The girls on this blog could take your white, pasty a$$.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:19 amWho said these words?
"War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group who knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses."
August 11th, 2007 at 2:19 amThe girls on this blog could take your white, pasty a$$.
Comment by JPark — August 11, 2007 @ 2:19 am
Not if he snuck up behind them with his fax machine.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:20 amWho said these words?
“War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group who knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.â€
Comment by JTitor — August 11, 2007 @ 2:19 am
August 11th, 2007 at 2:21 amOne of the Teletubbies?
Let the five deferments Cheney wanabes start their paper work
August 11th, 2007 at 2:21 amBlack and ashy?
August 11th, 2007 at 2:22 amTP is fascist now.
Comment by THE KKKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — August 11, 2007 @ 2:21 am
They always were. It's just getting to be crunch time now.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:22 amShocking, Sonny, just freaking shocking.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:23 amJtitor is a liberal.
Comment by Sonny Black — August 11, 2007 @ 2:23 am
August 11th, 2007 at 2:24 amThose are fighting words. Get out your fax machine.
If Bush really cared for the troops he would bring them home. He doesn't.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:24 amDr. Dog's a$$ is like a misshapen pear.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:25 amKegel?
August 11th, 2007 at 2:26 amPost #666, here we come.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:27 amPetraeus wants to keep troops in Iraq for 9-10 years. Bush doesn't care about the troops if he did he would bring them home to their families. The mess at Walter Reed happened on his watch.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:27 amDr. Dog's a$$ can be seen on Tuesday afternoons at the schoolyard.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:27 amHow the admin can even consider a draft is laughable. The last draft dunk an admininistration and ultimately a war. Yeah, you go Bush go! Explain why your daughters, neices and nephews are not subject to you draft, and explain the body bags.
You're the champ.
Chimpie.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:29 amI have a really good idea for a comment. Please, everyone, don't post for a little bit so I can be sure my comment goes through.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:29 amBush won't add the draft. If he did Iraq would become Vietnam. We lost both wars. The surge has failed. Time to bring troops home.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:30 amThat would be "sunk" not "dunk".
August 11th, 2007 at 2:31 amDr. Dog got his a$$ caught in the fax machine while corresponding with KKKarl.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:32 amHey P' I mean KKKing, sand-monkey whatever your name is today? I see your being a pain in the ass again. Who the hell is Sonny Black — Some soul brotha from the 70's?
August 11th, 2007 at 2:32 amGreat! My comment made it through.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:33 amIraq is Bush's Vietnam. He seems hell bent on proving it. Is the man self destructive or does he have a box of rocks for a brain?
August 11th, 2007 at 2:33 amYah. The "The SURGE IS working!!!!!!!!!!!" up your ass P.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:34 amGeorge W. Bush has finally found his Vietnam in Iraq. A war of choice he lost.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:34 amThe SURGE IS working!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by THE KKKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — August 11, 2007 @ 2:32 am
August 11th, 2007 at 2:34 amThe Weekly Standard. You rock, Pee.
According to Chris Matthews, he has the most brilliant mind in the neo-con party . . . like a rock.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:34 amIs the man self destructive or does he have a box of rocks for a brain?
Comment by rockyroad — August 11, 2007 @ 2:33 am
I hate these either/or questions.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:36 amChris Matthews doesn't know about Pee.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:37 amIf Bush had bothered to serve in Vietnam in combat he would know what it actually means to be a soldier.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:37 amWho did you quote earlier? - Google it
August 11th, 2007 at 2:38 amYou kids will have to make it to #666 without me.
Good night.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:38 amTrolls are trying to hijack this site...
Like Chimpy and the Repukes are trying to hijack our country.
Screw the trolls. Keep the Internet FREE!!
August 11th, 2007 at 2:38 amWhy didn't Bush or Cheney serve in Vietnam? Scared.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:40 amYea no shit Sunny D'
August 11th, 2007 at 2:40 amSo P you gone to any good AiPAC meetings lately?
August 11th, 2007 at 2:41 amProbus is an idiotic parrot.
He repeats things over and over because he’s stupid.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:42 amBush chose to not give the troops a pay raise. Democrats fought for the troops. He sends them to Iraq over and over. He is responsible for the failures at Walter Reed Hospital.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:43 amEven when Hillary speaks at AiPAC?
August 11th, 2007 at 2:44 amDemocrats support the troops they want them out of Iraq's civil war. Bush wants them to stay.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:46 amI would flee this God-forsaken country if they reinstate the draft. This country isn't worth it.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:46 amComment by barfly — August 11, 2007 @ 2:46 am
You can rest easy. Bush will never do it. He will keep sending the same tired, worn out soldiers to fight his war of choice.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:47 amP you gave it away. damn you! Shit shes W's real dad.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:47 amI would flee this Allah-forsaken country if they reinstate the draft.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:48 amYes, I do.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:48 amYou can rest easy. Bush will never do it. He will keep sending the same tired, worn out soldiers to fight his war of choice.
Comment by Probus
Bite it, you know nothing about the tired, worn out soldiers.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:49 amDoes Bush have any medals from his service in Vietnam? Nope. He never went. He never served. Coward.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:49 amBite it, you know nothing about the tired, worn out soldiers.
Comment by barfly
Hey Probus, that wasn't me. There is a name-stealing troll lurking.
Watch this, okay, fake barfly, what is your stance on Social Security?
August 11th, 2007 at 2:50 amNo idea.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:51 amHey Probus, that wasn’t me. There is a name-stealing troll lurking.
Watch this, okay, fake barfly, what is your stance on Social Security?
Comment by barfly — August 11, 2007 @ 2:50 am
No problem, my friend. Every conservative/republican must serve. If you support the surge go to Iraq.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:52 amZooey's not going to like that.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:52 amDidn't Cheney get a purple heart for his combat service? Nope. A bronze star? Nope. He got 5 deferments. He never served. Coward.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:53 amI’m a gay man.
Comment by barfly — August 11, 2007 @ 2:55 am
No prob.
Signed,
August 11th, 2007 at 2:56 amTypical Defeatocrat
Did Rove ever serve in Vietnam? Nope. Spineless, gutless coward.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:57 amVietnam was not nearly as much fun as Iraq.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:58 amAlthough, sometimes I thought that it was just one dude using 20 names.
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I resemble that statement.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:59 amThe GOP is dead. The Christian Right killed it. Trade an undying support of a war criminal president for a chance to get a couple anti-choice supremes and what do you get? Nothing you hoped for. Suckers. Good riddance.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:59 amComment by sam — August 11, 2007 @ 2:59 am
The Iraq war killed the GOP.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:01 amThis is a duplicate post by sam. He posted this same thing an hour ago. Stupid liberal trolls.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:01 amComment by Probus — No Rove didn't serve in the military. He was too busy blowing cows down on the farm.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:01 amComment by JTitor — August 11, 2007 @ 3:01 am
lol. The turd blossom.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:03 amGo ahead, Chimpy.
Reinstitute the draft.
You will have riots all over the country.
And it will be the end of you, monkey butt.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:03 amThe Right is finished in the US. Thank you typical GOP supporter.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:03 amI had gay love with Tom3.
Comment by barfly — August 11, 2007 @ 3:04 am
No prob.
Signed,
August 11th, 2007 at 3:05 amTypical Defeatocrat
Libby is a felon.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:05 amImpeach Bush!
August 11th, 2007 at 3:07 amAnybody who says "Who the f*ck is Libby?...
...IS a troll. An inbred, redneck Repuke troll.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:10 amThe purposefully incompetent GOP looked the other way as a housing catastrophe built up over four years like a slow motion train wreck. The wreck could have been averted but BushCo loves train wrecks and chaos. It is just soooo easy to steal amognst chaos. The economy is going to take a huge freaking hit and who do you think will be rightfully blamed. An unneccesary invasion and the worse f'n economy in 70 years. GOP RIP.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:10 amComment by Brassmask from 3DHS — Like hell you win.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:10 amBush lied soldiers died.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:11 amI probe Jtitor nightly.
Comment by Probus — August 11, 2007 @ 3:10 am
No prob.
Signed,
August 11th, 2007 at 3:13 amTypical Defeatocrat
Sonny
Wasting your time by trying to be disruptive at Think Progress is going to accomplish what.? How deep are you going to dig your grave? Your mother must be soo proud.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:16 amBy 2008 there won't be a republican party.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:18 amHow long was Bush's deployment to Vietnam? 0 days. The coward never served.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:43 amYour punctuation-challenged self is showing, Mr. Pee.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:47 amThe unpopularity of Iraq's civil war will make sure no republican wins the White House in 2008.
August 11th, 2007 at 3:54 amThis war president never served his country in a war? That makes him a hypocrite.
August 11th, 2007 at 4:48 amBy golly! The US will fight this war against its inner demons until it unconditionally surrenders to itself!! You will all see! America never gives up!!1
August 11th, 2007 at 6:12 amJust saying the word "draft" has created 15 million new Democrats.
Thank you Republicans.
"Republicans in Congress currently have a lower approval rating than do Congressional Democrats, by a six-point margin."
August 11th, 2007 at 6:46 amhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-geiger/destroying-the-gops-cong_b_58382.html
Yeah, bring on the draft, there won't be a republican left standing. You idiots had it all and you screwed the pooch. The sooner you realize that KKKRove is more of a liability than an assest then you'll start to make up some ground.
August 11th, 2007 at 6:49 amIf there is going to be a draft, I hope they start by drafting Romney's 5 sons.
August 11th, 2007 at 7:49 amRomney's sissys will buy their way out, like the Bush boys did. The Deserter-In-Chief is their model.
August 11th, 2007 at 8:26 amAnybody need some white feathers I have plenty
looks like jail for me at least i come out alive
August 11th, 2007 at 9:37 amNOBODY CAN MAKE YOU DO ANYTHING YOU DONT WANT TO DO
August 11th, 2007 at 9:38 amLooks like the War Czar has had it with the kool-aid drinkers.
By mentioning D.R.A.F.T he has earned himself the "You're doin' a heck of a job brownie" award from Bush.
He must really want out of this admin bad.
August 11th, 2007 at 10:00 amAsk not what you can do for your country, but what your country is doing for you......... NOTHING
August 11th, 2007 at 10:28 amNot only does the draft make sense, no exceptions, no sons serving america by helping daddy become presiedent, no college deferments, everybody 18-40 years old is on their way to fight to eliminate the threat of terrorism across the globe, we shouldn't stop at Iraq, Iran, it's on tho Africa and rid the Al Queda ties there also!
We should also immediately institute a war tax of 10% for all income over $50,000 per year, no write offs, no exceptions, everybody pays for the right to use oil.
August 11th, 2007 at 11:48 amDoes anyone believe that the children of the rich, especially the Neo-Cons are going to be drafted? Its going to be the very poor and poor (formerly known as the middle class) that are going to feed the Neo-Cons lust for Power, Money and Blood with their dead bodies.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:16 pmDraft the College Republicans first. They campaigned for this damned war, they should have to die in it.
August 11th, 2007 at 12:52 pmFinally, the Nazi party's return to power is complete, but on the other side of the sea.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:18 pmDraft College Republicans
August 11th, 2007 at 3:39 pmWow! 778 posts . . this has got to be a good idea! Thank god I'm an old woman and can't be drafted (old, but very hot).
August 11th, 2007 at 10:30 pmCollege repuboicans" Although that sounds like a go start, why not start with the children of elected officials. You want this war ro end soon? Draft their children.
Why wouldn't they want to serve? That would be religious reasons (Mitt Romeny), we're just too dam busy going to college (Cheney, Rove et at), Dad's running for president, dubya and Mitt's kids. Hell, call me a Jehovah's Wiitness. This is a friggin" disadster and I ain't goin".
Now, I'm a poor black man in Newark . . . you gonna give me $20,000 to sign up? Don't care that I'm a Crip and have a couple of felony charges against me? Cool. Where do I sign?
Thanks dubya. I want my daughter serving right next to this Crrip.
PS Where the heck are the twins?
August 11th, 2007 at 10:45 pmChange of topic . . . just because the topic just arose.
Just yesterday, qestions were raised, on this website: Who is Karl Rove? What are his financial interests? What are his family’s financial interests? What are their criminal records? What are their holdings and liabilities?
24 Hours later, he announces his resignation.
ROVE RESIGNS>
Coincidence? Possibly. One way or another good news. But anyone with the time and the resources . . . .investigate. You’ve got Westlaw, look up leans and creditors, look up criminal convictions and anything else your creative mind can imagine. For him, his wife, his kids, parents, siblings, yardman. He would do no less for you.
Maybe he’s clean as a toothpick. No harm checking. Something stinks here.
August 13th, 2007 at 5:36 am