Comments on: O’Hanlon: Iraq Trip Relied On ‘The Itinerary The Defense Department Developed’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:29:39 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: BK http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4009659 BK Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:08:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4009659 My oh My, Yet another John McCain style walk in the park in Iraq. Its incredible, that these propagandists are so self absorbed, they can't get it through their pointed little heads, that only the willfully and terminally brain dead believe 1 word of their 2 bit propaganda. As has been normal since the rape of Iraq began back in the 90's, No honest person has ever believed a single word of any of the lies and excuses for occupying a almost totally defenseless country. From the outright lies regarding WMD, to the incredible bullshit we had to endure about "spreading democracy" at the end of a gun, to the now threadbare excuse of, fight them there, rather than fight them here, the bullcacca is near chin deep. Is it too late to come clean, and just admit it has always been about securing the Iraqi Oilfields for the Western Nations, and Oil Oligarchs? The truth will set us all free. There is just damned little truth to go around now days. Had the Iraq Invasion been handled properly, the 15 years of propaganda and military preparation would have paid off quite nicely. Had the US done the right thing vis a vis the Iraqi people, they really would have welcomed us with flowers and candies. Sheer greed destroyed the entire project, that took near 2 decades to formulate and execute. Of course now this mouthpiece comes out and admits he was always escorted by the military, and only saw what they wanted to see. But then 75% of the American people already knew that. Only the willfully blind, and accomplishes to the farce still want to hear these sort of lies. I guess if it helps them sleep better, then his "fact finding" trip was a huge success. The truth is, we could have purchased every drop of oil in Iraq, and still come out ahead. The Iraq occupation will cost a cool Trillion Dollars by the time its over. And the perpaTraitors will have made themselves monstrously rich. The damage the war has done to our political well being, and our standing with the rest of the World is in the toilet. Dr Goebbels had a name for people like this creature. He referred to them as "rear area swine". A rather fitting jacket. He indeed supports the rape of Iraq, but isn't willing to do the raping. He leaves that for others. The Surge is a huge success. The number of dead Iraqis has gone up by at least 30 to 40%. So how can one imply its a failure? The Surge has indeed reached its objective of more and more dead Iraqis. Isn't that what it was suppose to do? To think otherwise is pure vanity, and self deception. My oh My, Yet another John McCain style walk in the park in Iraq.
Its incredible, that these propagandists are so self absorbed, they can’t get it through their pointed little heads, that only the willfully and
terminally brain dead believe 1 word of their 2 bit propaganda. As
has been normal since the rape of Iraq began back in the 90’s, No
honest person has ever believed a single word of any of the lies and
excuses for occupying a almost totally defenseless country. From
the outright lies regarding WMD, to the incredible bullshit we had
to endure about “spreading democracy” at the end of a gun, to the
now threadbare excuse of, fight them there, rather than fight them
here, the bullcacca is near chin deep. Is it too late to come clean, and
just admit it has always been about securing the Iraqi Oilfields for
the Western Nations, and Oil Oligarchs? The truth will set us all free.
There is just damned little truth to go around now days. Had the Iraq
Invasion been handled properly, the 15 years of propaganda and
military preparation would have paid off quite nicely. Had the US done
the right thing vis a vis the Iraqi people, they really would have
welcomed us with flowers and candies. Sheer greed destroyed the
entire project, that took near 2 decades to formulate and execute.
Of course now this mouthpiece comes out and admits he was always
escorted by the military, and only saw what they wanted to see. But
then 75% of the American people already knew that. Only the willfully
blind, and accomplishes to the farce still want to hear these sort of lies.
I guess if it helps them sleep better, then his “fact finding” trip was a
huge success. The truth is, we could have purchased every drop of oil
in Iraq, and still come out ahead. The Iraq occupation will cost a cool
Trillion Dollars by the time its over. And the perpaTraitors will have
made themselves monstrously rich. The damage the war has done to
our political well being, and our standing with the rest of the World is
in the toilet. Dr Goebbels had a name for people like this creature. He
referred to them as “rear area swine”. A rather fitting jacket. He indeed
supports the rape of Iraq, but isn’t willing to do the raping. He leaves
that for others. The Surge is a huge success. The number of dead
Iraqis has gone up by at least 30 to 40%. So how can one imply its
a failure? The Surge has indeed reached its objective of more and more
dead Iraqis. Isn’t that what it was suppose to do? To think otherwise
is pure vanity, and self deception.

]]> By: jon b http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4009446 jon b Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:49:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4009446 I have given up NYT years ago. It is a paper of propaganda, distortion and manipulation. It is DEFINITELY worse than Goebbles. I have given up NYT years ago. It is a paper of propaganda, distortion and manipulation. It is DEFINITELY worse than Goebbles.

]]> By: Allen http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4008664 Allen Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:50:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4008664 <strong>He's a healthy young guy -- let him sign up! :0</strong> He’s a healthy young guy — let him sign up! :0

]]> By: pontified http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4008202 pontified Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:15:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4008202 The republicans feel Hilary, Barak, and Edwards are the best people they'd want to see as president if they can't get a republican. That's why they're dream opponents. MSM is just looking for those who they can corrupt through lobby money and extra airtime. Uncorruptable candidates that are against the war will get little airtime. The exception is Ron Paul, but he is for uncontrolled, raging profit mongers, no taxes for the rich, and no benefits for the poor. It wouldn't take long for the profit mongers to turn him around to the benefits of endless wars. Ron Paul is the ideal candidate for the rich. Take away benefits from the poor and make them dependent on a military salary while giving the rich a free ride on our backs and let the contractors suck the wealth of this nation without any oversight. The republicans feel Hilary, Barak, and Edwards are the best people they’d want to see as president if they can’t get a republican. That’s why they’re dream opponents. MSM is just looking for those who they can corrupt through lobby money and extra airtime. Uncorruptable candidates that are against the war will get little airtime. The exception is Ron Paul, but he is for uncontrolled, raging profit mongers, no taxes for the rich, and no benefits for the poor. It wouldn’t take long for the profit mongers to turn him around to the benefits of endless wars. Ron Paul is the ideal candidate for the rich. Take away benefits from the poor and make them dependent on a military salary while giving the rich a free ride on our backs and let the contractors suck the wealth of this nation without any oversight.

]]> By: Bruno Hauptmann http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4007025 Bruno Hauptmann Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:50:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4007025 We don't want Rove to cut and run, we want his lard butt in a jail cell. We don’t want Rove to cut and run, we want his lard butt in a jail cell.

]]> By: Energy Pimps http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4007023 Energy Pimps Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:58:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4007023 Ok, we need at least one more post with clapture including his witty "cut and run" comment, just in case there are some out there who didnt notice how insightfully funny he can be. Ok, we need at least one more post with clapture including his witty “cut and run” comment, just in case there are some out there who didnt notice how insightfully funny he can be.

]]> By: Energy Pimp http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4007022 Energy Pimp Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:56:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4007022 <i>This Administration and its new General Lackey (Petraeus)</i> When you say "administration" you of course mean the POTUS and the democrats who praised and then confirmed Petraeus with glowing accolades? You are a dumbass, you KNOW you are a dumbass and now, so do we. This Administration and its new General Lackey (Petraeus)

When you say “administration” you of course mean the POTUS and the democrats who praised and then confirmed Petraeus with glowing accolades?

You are a dumbass, you KNOW you are a dumbass and now, so do we.

]]> By: Rapture http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4007021 Rapture Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:54:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4007021 "Rove Cuts and Runs" should be the header for this mornings first story. “Rove Cuts and Runs” should be the header for this mornings first story.

]]> By: blogbob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4007020 blogbob Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:50:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4007020 Why should we the American people expect ANYTHING different than a "choreographed" visit by "a vocal war critic [NOT!]" from the Pentagon brass? Doesn't anyone remember the taged "spontaneous" discussion between Shrub and troops in Iraq, where a DepAsstSecDef first told the troops what questions were to be put to them, and who should anwer each question and how? Doesn't anyone remember "Five Rugs for Five Bucks" under the cover of a company of Rangers and two attack helicopters? This Administration and its new General Lackey (Petraeus) can be counted on to give us a glowing report of overwhelming "surge" success in September. The fact that the evidence for said success will be staged is a given from the man who stuffed a sock in his flight suit and stood in front of a banner (later blamed on the sailors) saying "mission accomplished"...before the IED campaign began. As to Rove, I just heard that he has resigned. Is it because the heat is rising too high from Congress, or did "Twit" Romeny's victory in the Iowa Straw Poll, the only election event in America where the winner is the one who buys the most votes, mean that Satan's spawn is moving to help Twit be our new George Bush? Why should we the American people expect ANYTHING different than a “choreographed” visit by “a vocal war critic [NOT!]” from the Pentagon brass? Doesn’t anyone remember the taged “spontaneous” discussion between Shrub and troops in Iraq, where a DepAsstSecDef first told the troops what questions were to be put to them, and who should anwer each question and how? Doesn’t anyone remember “Five Rugs for Five Bucks” under the cover of a company of Rangers and two attack helicopters?

This Administration and its new General Lackey (Petraeus) can be counted on to give us a glowing report of overwhelming “surge” success in September. The fact that the evidence for said success will be staged is a given from the man who stuffed a sock in his flight suit and stood in front of a banner (later blamed on the sailors) saying “mission accomplished”…before the IED campaign began.

As to Rove, I just heard that he has resigned. Is it because the heat is rising too high from Congress, or did “Twit” Romeny’s victory in the Iowa Straw Poll, the only election event in America where the winner is the one who buys the most votes, mean that Satan’s spawn is moving to help Twit be our new George Bush?

]]> By: Rapture http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4007019 Rapture Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:50:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4007019 Rove is cutting and running from a war he helped sell the American people and his excuse is because he wants to be with his family. Does this mean our soldiers get to go be with their families as well? Cutting and Running should be used over and over to describe what this coward is doing. Rove is cutting and running from a war he helped sell the American people and his excuse is because he wants to be with his family. Does this mean our soldiers get to go be with their families as well?
Cutting and Running should be used over and over to describe what this coward is doing.

]]> By: Martin Gifford http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4007018 Martin Gifford Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:49:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4007018 <blockquote>"But in a recent interview, Glenn Greenwald elicits the inner details of the trip from O’Hanlon"</blockquote> I presume we'll get a thorough retraction from the NYT and improved standards from now on.

“But in a recent interview, Glenn Greenwald elicits the inner details of the trip from O’Hanlon”

I presume we’ll get a thorough retraction from the NYT and improved standards from now on.

]]> By: mparker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4007014 mparker Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:41:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4007014 Rove should have been dragged out in Shackles. That's ok. Treason charges don't go away. Just like War Crimes. He has his whole life (avoiding prosecution) to look foreword to. Rove should have been dragged out in Shackles.

That’s ok.

Treason charges don’t go away.

Just like War Crimes.

He has his whole life (avoiding prosecution) to look foreword to.

]]> By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4007008 rockyroad Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:31:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4007008 Change of topic . . . just because the topic just arose. Just yesterday, qestions were raised, on this website: Who is Karl Rove? What are his financial interests? What are his family's financial interests? What are their criminal records? What are their holdings and liabilities? 24 Hours later, he announces his resignation. Coincidence? Possibly. One way or another good news. But anyone with the time and the resources . . . .investigate. You've got Westlaw, look up leans and creditors, look up criminal convictions and anything else your creative mind can imagine. For him, his wife, his kids, parents, siblings, yardman. He would do no less for you. Maybe he's clean as a toothpick. No harm checking. Something stinks here. Change of topic . . . just because the topic just arose.

Just yesterday, qestions were raised, on this website: Who is Karl Rove? What are his financial interests? What are his family’s financial interests? What are their criminal records? What are their holdings and liabilities?

24 Hours later, he announces his resignation.

Coincidence? Possibly. One way or another good news. But anyone with the time and the resources . . . .investigate. You’ve got Westlaw, look up leans and creditors, look up criminal convictions and anything else your creative mind can imagine. For him, his wife, his kids, parents, siblings, yardman. He would do no less for you.

Maybe he’s clean as a toothpick. No harm checking. Something stinks here.

]]> By: doro http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4007007 doro Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:15:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4007007 Sharon was right with the new moon. Exit Karl. Can he be indicted now? Sharon was right with the new moon. Exit Karl. Can he be indicted now?

]]> By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4007000 rockyroad Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:05:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4007000 KARL ROVE HAS SENT IN HIS RESIGNATION! Said its for family reasons. Effective August 31st. KARL ROVE HAS SENT IN HIS RESIGNATION!

Said its for family reasons. Effective August 31st.

]]> By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4006994 rockyroad Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:25:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4006994 Gonzo just looks like he would look better in a burka . . . and it just makes me laugh to picture him running down the streets of Baghdad in a burka. hee . . . Gonzo just looks like he would look better in a burka . . . and it just makes me laugh to picture him running down the streets of Baghdad in a burka.

hee . . .

]]> By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4006992 rockyroad Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:19:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4006992 Gonzo's been in Iraq. Why can't he just take a casual stroll down Main Street, sans body armor and security? Yeah, Gonzo. Sheets to the wind! Take a jog! Gonzo’s been in Iraq. Why can’t he just take a casual stroll down Main Street, sans body armor and security?

Yeah, Gonzo. Sheets to the wind! Take a jog!

]]> By: Ken Hall http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4006990 Ken Hall Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:11:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4006990 I knew this was all BS from the start. They where touring a tiny, temporarily cleansed location with paid Iraqis saying what they were told to say. even then, these sorry excuses for journalists, these presstitutes had to be completely surrounded by heavily armed troops and wear flack jackets. If they really wanted to show progress in this propaganda fashion, why did they not film this on a lot in Burbank? Then they could have shown journalists walking freely, sans-flack jacket in stars and stripes T shirts walking on a carpet of rose petals, being feted by grateful Iraqis. I will believe that things are improving in Iraq the day that Bill O Reilly walks down any main road in Baghdad in a stars and stripes T shirt and doesn't get shot! I knew this was all BS from the start. They where touring a tiny, temporarily cleansed location with paid Iraqis saying what they were told to say. even then, these sorry excuses for journalists, these presstitutes had to be completely surrounded by heavily armed troops and wear flack jackets.

If they really wanted to show progress in this propaganda fashion, why did they not film this on a lot in Burbank? Then they could have shown journalists walking freely, sans-flack jacket in stars and stripes T shirts walking on a carpet of rose petals, being feted by grateful Iraqis.

I will believe that things are improving in Iraq the day that Bill O Reilly walks down any main road in Baghdad in a stars and stripes T shirt and doesn’t get shot!

]]> By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4006984 rockyroad Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:53:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4006984 Can anyone explain the O’Hanlon and Pollack op ed. I thought these guys were objective journalists. Turns out they've supported the war all along. To come out as anti-war guys supporting the surge puts me in an alternate universe where I Just Hate To Be. Can anyone explain the O’Hanlon and Pollack op ed. I thought these guys were objective journalists. Turns out they’ve supported the war all along.

To come out as anti-war guys supporting the surge puts me in an alternate universe where I Just Hate To Be.

]]> By: Probus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/comment-page-9/#comment-4006847 Probus Mon, 13 Aug 2007 05:49:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/12/ohanlon-greenwald/#comment-4006847 O'Hanlon and Pollack in writing this op-ed have seriously damaged their credibility. Bush and Cheney are naive if they think one op-ed based in fantasy can change the minds of a majority of Americans who want to get out of Iraq. O’Hanlon and Pollack in writing this op-ed have seriously damaged their credibility. Bush and Cheney are naive if they think one op-ed based in fantasy can change the minds of a majority of Americans who want to get out of Iraq.

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