Roadside bomb kills Iraqi governor.
By on Aug 12th, 2007 at 9:48 am
Roadside bomb kills Iraqi governor.
A powerful roadside bomb on Saturday killed Khalil Jalil Hamza, the governor of the Qadisiyah province in southern Iraq, a province “that has seen fierce internal fighting between Shiite factions. … The area also has seen a rise in internal rivalries between rival militia forces, including the Mahdi Army that is loyal to radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.”
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It’s time for the insurgents to clean up their act. It’s time for all of the Iraqi people to clean up their act. It’s time for Iraq to honor our noble commitments. If they had done all of this years ago, we would have been able to leave years ago, and they’d be enjoying their newfound freedom.
But they had to take it the wrong way.
August 12th, 2007 at 9:54 amgeez CT! I guess you don’t have to eat or sleep, thanks to the tubes you have had inserted-brings new meaning to “surfing the tubes…”
August 12th, 2007 at 10:04 amBTW-”years ago”?
as in, 500? 1000?
August 12th, 2007 at 10:05 amhow many years ago you talkin ’bout?
CT_Version 2
Iraq didn’t choose this. America did when it invaded.
You took their country, which you knew NOTHING about, and with the barest forethought and on the flimsiest pretext, invaded, deposed their leader and plunged them into a civil war.
And you have the cheek to blame the people of Iraq for it.
Iraq didn’t choose this. You did. Iraq is not, ultimately, to blame. You are.
August 12th, 2007 at 10:05 amIs there a “right” way to take it when:
1. A country invades you, drops bombs and kills your people, when you have made no hostile act towrds that country.
2. They pollute you with radioactive waste lasting for millions years.
3. They destroy all law and order.
4. And so on..
OBVIOUSLY the CT in the name does not satnd for “critical thinking”!
August 12th, 2007 at 10:07 amBG-well, even the Dems are now jumping on board(a little) with the whole “Well, we did what we could, but it’s the Iraqis’ fault that they can’t sort out a millenia-old difference of opinios in 4 years” line of bullcrap…
:(
August 12th, 2007 at 10:07 amre#5
Sorry about the typos, but that first comment just so pissed me off!
August 12th, 2007 at 10:09 amThat’s right, ladies and gentlemen, try new “OpiniOs!! Good for the mind, helps improve critical thinking and rational thought. That’s right, OpiniOs! High in fiber, high in flavor, easy on your mind.”
**derp**
August 12th, 2007 at 10:09 amCritital-It’s typo Sunday, didn’t you get the memo?
August 12th, 2007 at 10:10 amComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 10:05 am
Comment by whiteyfresh — August 12, 2007 @ 10:04 am
I am not considering any talking points/personal attacks at this time. Thank you.
Especially Bruce — your contentions are simply wrong and lopsided, sir. America has been the victim of terror. The are fighting to overthrow it, even extending the benefit to another country — this time being Iraq.
And eliminate the use of the word “you” in your talking-points buffet. Thank you.
August 12th, 2007 at 10:12 amTime to take a look at some definations:
Insurgent:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgency
Partisan:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partisan_(military)
August 12th, 2007 at 10:14 amcriticalthinker sez:
That’s why he’s here, criticalthinker. All he’s looking for is to provoke an emotional response in yet another attempt to derail the thread.
Ignore CT. He brings nothing of value to the discussion.
August 12th, 2007 at 10:14 amDid anyone else see “Meet the Press” this morning with that Daily KOS idiot?
August 12th, 2007 at 10:17 amBeat this story
Democrats Say Leaving Iraq May Take Years
John Edwards, the former North Carolina senator, would keep troops in the region to intervene in an Iraqi genocide and be prepared for military action if violence spills into other countries. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York would leave residual forces to fight terrorism and to stabilize the Kurdish region in the north. And Senator Barack Obama of Illinois would leave a military presence of as-yet unspecified size in Iraq to provide security for American personnel, fight terrorism and train Iraqis.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/us/politics/12dems.html?ex=1344571200&en=ad4324c44c78bf95&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
August 12th, 2007 at 10:18 amHey, whiteyfresh, how’s it hanging?
August 12th, 2007 at 10:18 amFatigue cripples US army in Iraq
PS 5 more troops killed today
Exhaustion and combat stress are besieging US troops in Iraq as they battle with a new type of warfare. Some even rely on Red Bull to get through the day. As desertions and absences increase, the military is struggling to cope with the crisis
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2147052,00.html
August 12th, 2007 at 10:19 amComment by criticalthinker — August 12, 2007 @ 10:07 am
Naturally, it would be of discomfort to you because of your possession of anti-American qualities. Why act as if I would be surprised? At every simple “mistake,” you’ll jump at the chance to blame the country that accommodates your every waking day of life.
To you, critical thinking is probably defined as “thinking up complex ways for America to lose, then steadfastly denying responsibility once/if they do.”
I guess it’s time to change your handle…
August 12th, 2007 at 10:20 amJake!! You’re back! Or maybe that’s me…
little to the left as usual…
Was it the guy who started the website(Kos)? can’t remember his name…
August 12th, 2007 at 10:22 amAnti-American, or Anti-Imperialist? I think the Germans called it defeatism, as did the Imperial Japanese. To contradict, or disagree with the war against the Allies was anti-Faderland, or anti-Emperor. And they shot em too.
Yes, let’s all support mob rule in our little democracy.
August 12th, 2007 at 10:24 amThat’s why he’s here, criticalthinker. All he’s looking for is to provoke an emotional response in yet another attempt to derail the thread.
Ignore CT. He brings nothing of value to the discussion.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 12, 2007 @ 10:14 am
Again, Mr. Monkey. You repeat the same criticism over and over and over and over, just attempting to appear to be an intellectual, yet you resemble nothing close to one.
You possess no credentials to evaluate anyone’s worthiness or intelligence. For one, you’re too far to the left and anti-American in anyone’s book.
And here’s another reminder: You’ve been banned. Comply with the intent of TP and exit the discussion area. To do this, point your cursor to the upper-right-hand area of your brower, and click [x].
You’ve been banned, which means that you carry no precedence over those who haven’t been — even the trolls. Get out.
August 12th, 2007 at 10:27 amI thought it was “MRS.” Monkey?
August 12th, 2007 at 10:28 amVideo Dick Cheney : Invading Baghdad Would Create Quagmire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I
just in case the trolls never saw this video of little Dick Cheney Admitting Iraq would be a quagmire – he knew he said it
the only truth Cheney has ever said
August 12th, 2007 at 10:29 amYes, whiteyfresh, that’s the guy. What time zone are you in — try to catch NBC at 8:00 a.m. — he kept whining about people badmouthing DailyKos — what a wimp!!!
August 12th, 2007 at 10:29 amnobody is Anti-American, we are Anti American Foreign policies that dont do any good
AND WE ARE
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ANTI BUSH GOVERMENT
August 12th, 2007 at 10:31 amCT_Version 2
There were no links between Iraq and the two towers. Nor were there links between Osama and Saddam. Of course, don’t let little things like the truth get in the way of your propaganda, or your holy war against brown people.
August 12th, 2007 at 10:31 amActually, Jose Padilla WAS “anti-American”. For the record, I think some of the more strident Bush-haters are WORSE than Padilla and should be shipped to Gitmo as well.
August 12th, 2007 at 10:33 amCASUALTIES STARTING AUGUST 1st
Wednesday: 6 GIs, 1 Brit, 178 Iraqis Killed; 188 Iraqis Wounded
August 12th, 2007 at 10:33 amThursday: 3 GIs, 116 Iraqis Killed; 76 Iraqis Wounded
Friday: 3 GIs, 22 Iraqis Killed; 13 Iraqis Wounded
Saturday: 1 Marine, 38 Iraqis Killed; 26 Iraqis Wounded
Sunday: 4 GIs, 116 Iraqis Killed; 49 Iraqis Wounded
Monday: 8 GIs, 123 Iraqis Killed; 131 Iraqis Wounded
Tuesday: 3 GIs, 1 Briton, 63 Iraqis Killed; 50 Iraqis Wounded
Wednesday: 93 Iraqis, 1 Briton Killed; 63 Iraqis Wounded
Thursday: 3 GIs, 2 Britons, 46 Iraqis Killed; 21 Iraqis Wounded
Friday: 81 Iraqis Killed, 89 Wounded
Saturday: 1 GI, 81 Iraqis Killed; 34 Iraqis Wounded
Comment by Go FREEDUMBTHINKER?To Iraq! — August 12, 2007 @
You can have your own opinion. I know a good military veteran – my own paps. He is a 26-year retiree of the U.S. Marines, participating in numerous deployments, training exercises, and even making the cut to attain the highest enlisted rank, directing high-level training for enlisted marines in his final years of service.
Did you enjoy your stateside service? Do you enjoy reducing the honor of real veterans?
August 12th, 2007 at 10:34 am“Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it.”
Mark Twain
August 12th, 2007 at 10:35 amDon’t trust me, whiteyfresh; here are some comments on his performance over at DailyKOS already:
Watching MTP, I’m quickly losing respect for kos.
n/t
by buzzermaster on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 07:19:30 AM PDT
A quick explanation: (0 / 0)
Markos seemed arrogant through his claims of non-arrogance. Both sides of this debate need to be heard, and I think that Ford presents a much more tempered demeanor in addressing the issues confronting progressives.
by buzzermaster on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 07:25:10 AM PDT
August 12th, 2007 at 10:35 amComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 10:31 am
Since you want to go off-topic, keep in mind that “brown people” make up the majority of illegal immigrants, a status they brought to themselves. So when the subject of illegal immigration is brought up, will you continue your scapegoating like an idiot lefty?
August 12th, 2007 at 10:36 amComment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 10:36 am
Continuing…
And when “brown people” are too busy strapping bombs to their belt and being religious kooks, splattering American and Iraqi blood everywhere, you can always get right back to blaming America.
Of course, the people who are charged with fighting terror always have to be the ones to explain everything to a hoard of tugging lefties. These lefties always have their way of saying “you lose.”
August 12th, 2007 at 10:44 amWell it is after all the fault of the righwing-nuts that nothing has been done about illegal immigration. They held the majority of government power for over a decade. Were so blinded by their attempts to retain power for power’s sake they even legalized citizenship for Cuban’s who swam ashore in Florida. And after those decades of power what do we have? A well guarded border? No, in point of fact little to no border security with Mexico, and none what-so-ever with Canada. Do we have a well regulated enforcement of illegal aliens in our society. No. Hard to blame the left for what the right didn’t do.
August 12th, 2007 at 10:44 amSince you want to go off-topic, keep in mind that “brown people†make up the majority of illegal immigrants, a status they brought to themselves. So when the subject of illegal immigration is brought up, will you continue your scapegoating like an idiot lefty?
That is all you righties ever do with illegal immigrants. You turn them into scapegoats. You blame for everything from asseholes on the road, to drug abuse, to unemployment, to you losing elections, to Xenophobia in your neighbourhood. All you ever do is blame illegal immigrants, and the legal ones you think support them.
August 12th, 2007 at 10:59 amDid you enjoy your stateside service? Do you enjoy reducing the honor of real veterans?
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 10:34 am
My dad was a Marine and so was I. No doubt you brag to your ‘paps’ about your service as a keyboard commando, storming the threads here, taking no prisoners…
August 12th, 2007 at 10:59 amAnd when “brown people†are too busy strapping bombs to their belt and being religious kooks, splattering American and Iraqi blood everywhere, you can always get right back to blaming America.
And when America goes an invades a country that was opposed to those brown people doing that?
You take an attack by a member of a racial group as being an excuse to invade a country which happened to be opposed to that member of that racial group. That makes you a racist.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:03 amWhenever I hear the term “Bush-haters†I think of all the “Clinton-hatersâ€.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:04 amIt’s surprising that the term is still being thrown about.
No one should be in Guantanamo. It should be a ghost town.
He got something right after all
August 12th, 2007 at 11:04 amComment by Ex Jarhead — August 12, 2007 @ 10:59 am
According to your own logic…
Comment by Go FREEDUMBTHINKER?To Iraq! — August 12, 2007 @ 10:25 — KEYBOARD COMMANDO, certified bragger.
And what did you or your father ever do as a Marine? Protest conflicts while hiding stateside and freeloading on the GI Bill?
August 12th, 2007 at 11:06 amOf course, the people who are charged with fighting terror always have to be the ones to explain everything to a hoard of tugging lefties. These lefties always have their way of saying “you lose.â€
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 10:44 am
Oh, and finally the appeal to groupthink, you know where showing dissent on things which are bloody stupid ideas, is seen as wrong? Maybe if you guys actually paid attention to the guys who said “This is a stupid idea” you wouldn’t have landed America in an war in Iraq. Maybe Afghanistan, you know that war which was actually justified, wouldn’t look like turning the world’s biggest opium den.
Maybe you would have finished what you set out to do, and Osama Bin Laden would no longer be at large.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:07 amComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 11:03 am
No, nothing racist. I quoted your take on “brown people.”
You can only try to set up cheap traps.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:08 amAnd what did you or your father ever do as a Marine? Protest conflicts while hiding stateside and freeloading on the GI Bill?
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:06 am
Who is devaluing the marines now?
August 12th, 2007 at 11:08 amLMAF,
August 12th, 2007 at 11:09 amKeyboard Commando.
CT_Version 2
August 12th, 2007 at 11:09 amIran, Iraq sign oil pipeline deal
TEHRAN (AFP) – Iran and Iraq signed an agreement to build pipelines for the transfer of Iraqi crude oil and oil products, the state-run Iran news network Saturday quoted the oil ministry as announcing.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070811/wl_mideast_afp/iraniraqeconomyoil
YYYYYYEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
August 12th, 2007 at 11:10 amEspecially Bruce — your contentions are simply wrong and lopsided, sir. America has been the victim of terror.
You sir, are a racist. You justify the Iraq war based on the fact that America was attacked – by a totally different enemy that just happened to have the same skin colour.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:10 amU.S. needs “wise” leaders to regain its lost global image – - TRUE
August 12th, 2007 at 11:11 amComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 11:08 am
Naturally, you don’t understand the military, idiot.
One can get in the uniform and take all those benefits. But what kind of service are they providing in return for all of those pay and benefits.
You’re pretty eager, aren’t you?
I know the Marines. You never will.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:12 amWho is devaluing the marines now?
Comment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 11:08 am
Explain, how did I “devalue” the Marines.
You have no opinion on the military. Shut it, you are a lefty.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:14 amAnd what did you or your father ever do as a Marine? Protest conflicts while hiding stateside and freeloading on the GI Bill?
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:06 am
Yeah I used some GI bill… they said I’d earned it… You’re freeloading on your paps pension no doubt…
August 12th, 2007 at 11:14 amCT_Version 2
You have no knowledge of the marines. Your father might, if he really served, but you? I sincerely doubt it.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:14 amComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 11:10 am
You’ve far outlived your usefulness, resorting to the _____ist card.
Goodbye.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:15 amIran, Iraq sign oil pipeline deal
TEHRAN (AFP) – Iran and Iraq signed an agreement to build pipelines for the transfer of Iraqi crude oil and oil products, the state-run Iran news network Saturday quoted the oil ministry as announcing.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070811/wl_mideast_afp/iraniraqeconomyoil
Under the deal, Iran would buy 100,000 barrels of Iraqi crude to be refined in the southern port of Bandar Abbas, then sell the product back to Iraq. The accord would have no upper limit on quantities.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:17 amComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 11:14 am
Note to lefty: don’t you dare describe the dynamics of my family. We were a military family, and there are sacrifices that every member of a military family takes during that period.
Run along…shut up.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:18 amI know the Marines. You never will.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:12 am
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like you heard enough about “The Crotch” (ask your paps what that means) to know not to join…
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 12th, 2007 at 11:18 amComment by Ex Jarhead — August 12, 2007 @ 11:14 am
Sorry, I don’t live with my parents anymore.
No wonder you lefties suck…you’re so good at projection.
You, sir, are absolutely not a Marine, regardless of what you claim.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:19 amComment by Ex Jarhead — August 12, 2007 @ 11:18 am
You’re not a Marine, sir, as I’ve said. Stop attempting to make that false claim. Your cover is blown.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:20 amthere’s going to be a serious bloodbath in Iraq when we finally leave. and itl be our fault for LYNCHING saddam
August 12th, 2007 at 11:20 am“Iran, Iraq sign oil pipeline deal”
No wonder Dead Eye Dick is so anxious to Bomb Iran now!
August 12th, 2007 at 11:20 amComment by Ex Jarhead — August 12, 2007 @ 11:18 am
Why do you hate America? And no, you’ve still provided no evidence that you’ve “earned” your GI benefits.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:21 amNote to lefty: don’t you dare describe the dynamics of my family. We were a military family, and there are sacrifices that every member of a military family takes during that period.
Run along…shut up.
Comment by CT_Version 2
Yeah, and that’s why your father, who is not here to speak for himself or to defend himself from your possible lies, served and you did not.
Oh, and having a parent go off to war? Not exactly unusual or particularly noble. You parent, your father, him I could respect because if he served he put his money where his mouth was and actually did it. You? You’re a chickenhawk.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:23 amSorry, I don’t live with my parents anymore.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:19 am
Of course not, they sent you away to school… or so you claim. You begrudge a vet the GI bill but you let daddy pay your tuition…
August 12th, 2007 at 11:25 amGreat. They blew up the govenor.
Its a rousing success.
At least to a republican.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:25 am“It’s time for the insurgents to clean up their act. It’s time for all of the Iraqi people to clean up their act. “
Yeppers, it’s all the Iraqi people’s fault. We invade their country, destroy their infrastructure and set off long-standing religious rivalries, and it’s the people in Iraq’s fault that they don’t make things right.
CT – please tell me what you would do if China or Russia invaded the United States, destroyed our infrastructure and then occupied us, telling us how we should run our government? Just answer the question, don’t throw in a straw man like “it would never happen”.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:26 amComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 11:23 am
Really, you are a pure idiot.
Not here to defend himself? He’s a clear conservative, plain and simple. He knows the military and is against the anti-war crowd.
There goes another lefty, thinking he speaks for others…
And no, doesn’t care for the respect of a posturing lefty, doesn’t “need your respect.” He knows people like you are only pretending to be one of us.
You really have no higher ground here, sir. Again, stop insulting military families.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:27 amComment by Ex Jarhead
How sad his life must be, to have to look at pappy’s DD214 and play Marine in the old man’s uniform.
You should have seen his rants last night on another thread. It may be the funniest thing that has ever shown up on TP.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:28 amAgain, stop insulting military families.
I’ll take care of that.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:29 amCT – please tell me what you would do if China or Russia invaded the United States, destroyed our infrastructure and then occupied us, telling us how we should run our government? Just answer the question, don’t throw in a straw man like “it would never happenâ€.
Comment by bilbobaggins — August 12, 2007 @ 11:26 am
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!!!!!!
He’d say, “Go get ‘em pappy, I’ll be under the bed…”
August 12th, 2007 at 11:29 amCT – please tell me what you would do if China or Russia invaded the United States, destroyed our infrastructure and then occupied us, telling us how we should run our government? Just answer the question, don’t throw in a straw man like “it would never happenâ€.
Comment by bilbobaggins — August 12, 2007 @ 11:26 am
I would fight them anyway I could.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:30 amActually I don’t expect he will answer the question. He’d have to use too much brain power to do that. Plus, he is not intellectually honest enough to answer that question.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:31 amAgain, stop insulting military families.
I’ll take care of that.
Comment by CT_Version 2
You already do that, on a regular basis. O get some sleep.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:31 amI and the good people like me, would never, ever yield to their will, no matter how benevolant.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:31 amThe lefty doctrine of personal attacks, name-jacking and insults to military personnel and their families is in full-swing.
Looks like your credibility is in the clear negative, lefties.
No wonder America hates the left…
August 12th, 2007 at 11:31 amCT_Version 2
How about this CT, if he is such a bastian of the right: Call him up, give him the website’s URL and lets see what he really thinks. Because, right now you are making judgements on the validity of what other people are posting, based off of knowledge you possibly gleaned third hand off of your father.
Indeed, you father might actually have something constructive to add to the argument while you have clearly failed in that regard, resorting, to put it bluntly to the old schoolyard taunt of “My daddy can beat up your daddy.”
He might not agree with you on everything and he might have better counterargument then you. So please, call him up and let him speak for himself.
Or, are you chicken?
August 12th, 2007 at 11:32 amComment by upside00 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:31 am
Links?
August 12th, 2007 at 11:32 amActually I don’t expect he will answer the question. He’d have to use too much brain power to do that. Plus, he is not intellectually honest enough to answer that question.
Comment by bilbobaggins — August 12, 2007 @ 11:31 am
I just DID answer the question. You apparently can’t read. I said I’d fight them with whatever means available, and for as long as it takes to drive them out.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:32 amMy courage, your blood.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:32 amGood Morning Bilbo and Upside, good to read you here……Not many around lately….Most seem absent, like me, by choice…..Blessings to you…
August 12th, 2007 at 11:33 amIf China, Russia or any other country dared to invade the US, for whatever reason, whether they thought they were helping us or not, I’d fight them with everything at my disposal. We would win, because we’d never give up, and we’d never stop fighting them until they left.
Why, whats your point?
August 12th, 2007 at 11:34 amBruce Gorton,
Thank you for taking on CT this morning. I would like to do it myself more often, but it is an unpleasant task.
I strongly agree with your conclusion that CT is racist. The racism and xenophobia seeps out of people like CT when they make it clear that our only excuse for attacking Iraq is the fact that its citizens are vaguely related to terrorists through religion and skin color, and also make clear that they are perfectly comfortable with it. I think their simple racist calculus is this: “if we torture, maim, kill, and obliterate enough citizens of Islamistan, the rest of them will get the message and subjugate themselves to perpetual U.S. dominance, something to which we are naturally entitled through Manifest Destiny and Christian moral superiority.”
August 12th, 2007 at 11:34 amComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 11:32 am
Illiterate,
Did you even bother to read comment #66?
Only one problem for you: He does agree with everything I’m saying. Lefties, for certain, hate the United States Military.
Again, take your projection and posturing elsewhere?
August 12th, 2007 at 11:35 amComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 11:32 am
Mr. Gorton actually believes that he speaks for actual military veterans.
It’s sort of funny, really.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:36 amI just DID answer the question. You apparently can’t read. I said I’d fight them with whatever means available, and for as long as my broadband link was open and my fingers could press the keys…
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:32 am
Fixed it!
August 12th, 2007 at 11:36 amOr, are you chicken?
Comment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 11:32 am
That’s nice. And who has to answer to a lefty with a hollow premise?
August 12th, 2007 at 11:38 amComment by Ex Jarhead — August 12, 2007 @ 11:36 am
I actually didn’t write that comment, fake marine.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:38 amStop with the wild, unsubstantiated claims, CT, like saying that lefties hate military families and that namejacking here is common among lefties. You don’t have a shred of evidence that either of these absolute statements are true. Whatever tiny little message of value you might share here is constantly undercut by these sorts of patently false slanders.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:39 amOnly one problem for you: He does agree with everything I’m saying. Lefties, for certain, hate the United States Military.
Again, take your projection and posturing elsewhere?
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:35 am
So YOU say. Lets see him come on here and argue for himself. Or, are you too afraid of what he might say reading your posts putting words in his mouth?
If he really agrees with you, give him a call, give him the URL, it doesn’t take much to argue on here.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:39 amComment by upside00 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:28 am
And what “funny” rants were those?
August 12th, 2007 at 11:40 amFixed it!
Comment by Ex Jarhead — August 12, 2007 @ 11:36 am
No. You just changed it. I said I would fight with whatever means available to me, as would most Americans. No one in America would ever let a foreign country come in and occupy us and tell us what to do. Its unAmerican, and we just would not let it happen. Period.
We’d fight to the last dying man.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:41 amOnly one problem for you: He does agree with everything I’m saying. Lefties, for certain, hate the United States Military.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:35 am
Get your daddy in on this, I like shootin’ it with those salty old gunnies…
August 12th, 2007 at 11:41 amComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 11:39 am
You really don’t believe that an actual veteran of the U.S. military would disagree with lefty doctrine, do you?
It happens every day, much to your dismay.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:41 amComment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:41 am
Not me.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:42 amComment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:38 am
Didn’t say that.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:43 amComment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:36 am
Not mine either.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:44 amComment by Ex Jarhead — August 12, 2007 @ 11:41 am
For sure, you’re a fake marine. No doubt there. Posing is a prosecutable offense, did you know that?
Insulting superiors, that makes for a “Marine.”
(FYI, it’s Master Gunny)
August 12th, 2007 at 11:44 amAlright, someone is clearly screwing around. What you libs turn to whenever we beat you with our superior tactics.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:45 am“I would fight them anyway I could.
Comment by CT_Version 2 “
Ok, then please tell me why it is OK for you to fight the people invading your country but it is not OK for the Iraqi’s to fight the people who have invaded and are now occupying their country.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:45 amComment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:43 am
Look at this idiot name-jacker.
Well, looks as if you’ll need to be dissolved with the “Report” feature.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:46 amComment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:44 am
Jarhead. I did not write this. I’d never, ever, insult someones service to our country. Just ignore this fool.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:46 amMr. Gorton actually believes that he speaks for actual military veterans.
It’s sort of funny, really.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:36 am
I don’t speak for anybody but myself. I don’t claim to speak for a single veteran, though I advocate treating veterans well, I do not speak for them because, mostly, they have their own vocal cords and enough fingers to post their own thoughts.
I call upon you, a guy who by his own words has never served, to extend that same courtesy to your father. You are putting words in people’s mouths and that to me, is a mark of disrespect, contempt even.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:46 amGood Morning Bilbo and Upside, good to read you here……Not many around lately….Most seem absent, like me, by choice…..Blessings to you…
Comment by Sharon
After reading the rants last night by our friend here, I had to come back to see if he survived the meth-induced night. Was quite funny.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:46 amComment by bilbobaggins — August 12, 2007 @ 11:45 am
I didn’t post the comment you are referencing, sir.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:46 amComment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:46 am
Name-jacker,
I’m insulting someone’s service, how?
August 12th, 2007 at 11:47 amOk, then please tell me why it is OK for you to fight the people invading your country but it is not OK for the Iraqi’s to fight the people who have invaded and are now occupying their country.
Comment by bilbobaggins — August 12, 2007 @ 11:45 am
Its not the same thing. They need our help.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:48 amComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 11:46 am
EVERY member military family sacrifices, but as a lefty, you wouldn’t know that.
And please, quit with the posturing and “morals.” You’re not fooling anybody. You have no claim here.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:49 am“No. You just changed it. I said I would fight with whatever means available to me, as would most Americans. No one in America would ever let a foreign country come in and occupy us and tell us what to do. Its unAmerican, and we just would not let it happen. Period.
We’d fight to the last dying man.
Comment by CT_Version 2″
Oh yeah. Well this is what we did to Iraq and you seem to think it is OK.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:49 amComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 11:46 am
And where am I putting words in peoples mouth?
Think I wouldn’t know the exact views of my own father?
Not much of a family man, are you?
August 12th, 2007 at 11:50 amYou really don’t believe that an actual veteran of the U.S. military would disagree with lefty doctrine, do you?
It happens every day, much to your dismay.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:41 am
Actually, you are wrong. I fully believe that my views on any given subject would be totally different to your fathers. He may well be a staunch rightwinger with beliefs every bit as repugnant to me as yours, however, I do not believe that you speak for him, or that you are qualified to speak for him.
Give him the respect he is due as your parent, and let him argue in his own voice.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:50 am“Its not the same thing. They need our help.
Comment by CT_Version 2″
According to us they need our help. According to them, they don’t. They want us gone. You really are an intellectual midget. You say that any patriotic American would stand up to invaders, but the Iraqis who are standing up to their invaders are terrorists. What a double standard you have.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:51 amComment by bilbobaggins — August 12, 2007 @ 11:49 am
You’re having a serious conversation with a name-jacker?
August 12th, 2007 at 11:51 amThe arab people are not prepared to make decisions for themselves. We need to make them more like us and then they’ll appreciate our help. It worked for the American Indian, and it will work for them.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:51 amIts not the same thing. They need our help.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:48 am
The arrogance of this statement is breathtaking. Most of them say they don’t want our help, they want us to leave. But you know better, because you are white, American, Christian, and superior. This paternalism is further proof of your racism.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:52 amBilbo I didn’t say that. I honestly don’t know what I’d do if China or Russia invaded us. I really don’t. What should we do? What are you suggesting?
August 12th, 2007 at 11:53 amComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 11:50 am
Like father, like son.
Again, not much of a family man, are you, lefty?
Lefties would never understand the military or the family dynamic.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:53 amComment by VerbalKint — August 12, 2007 @ 11:52 am
I didn’t write that, sir.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:54 am“The arab people are not prepared to make decisions for themselves. We need to make them more like us and then they’ll appreciate our help. It worked for the American Indian, and it will work for them.
Comment by CT_Version 2 “
God you are stupid and racist. Yeah it worked out real well for the American Indians, we virtually wiped them out and then confined them to poverty. How about you ask the American Indians how well they think it worked for them.
You are too stupid to hold an intellectual argument with. Actually, you possess very little intelligence so it’s no wonder trying to talk to you is like talking to a brick wall. I’m done.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:55 amI didn’t write that, sir.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:54 am
Thank you for clarifying.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:55 amYou’re having a serious conversation with a name-jacker?
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:51 am
Maybe that’s superior to a inane conversation with the real thing
August 12th, 2007 at 11:55 amInsulting superiors, that makes for a “Marine.â€
(FYI, it’s Master Gunny)
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:44 am
I think you’re insulting your ‘paps’ putting words in his mouth. Let him come here and say the troops who use GI bill are freeloaders. He’d probably say. “I wish my freeloader son would find a job, or even better, join up!”
To make E9 is quite an accomplishment, but your daddy isn’t my “superior” BTW, and the only one insulting him is you…
August 12th, 2007 at 11:55 am“Bilbo I didn’t say that. I honestly don’t know what I’d do if China or Russia invaded us. I really don’t. What should we do? What are you suggesting?
Comment by CT_Version 2″
I am suggesting that we would do the same thing that the Iraqi’s are doing. We would fight to our last person to expel the people who have invaded and are occupying our land. Just like the Iraqi’s are trying to do.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:56 amThis paternalism is further proof of your racism.
Comment by VerbalKint — August 12, 2007 @ 11:52 am
I am not a racist. Can I help it if the arab nations are stuck in the 19th century? We’re here to help them. Did God give us that calling? Perhaps. Perhaps not. But one things for sure, without us they’d be nothing. We are the new world order and if you’re not on the train, then you’re going to get run over by it.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:56 amam suggesting that we would do the same thing that the Iraqi’s are doing. We would fight to our last person to expel the people who have invaded and are occupying our land. Just like the Iraqi’s are trying to do.
Comment by bilbobaggins — August 12, 2007 @ 11:56 am
The Iraiq people don’t have a right to fight us. We made Iraq. We can destroy it if we so choose. Americans have a right to fight for their land and freedom because we fought for it to create it. The Iraqi’s are just sort of like our children. Our wayward children.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:57 amComment by Ex Jarhead — August 12, 2007 @ 11:55 am
Explain your lame contentions. Explain how I’m insulting my own father’s actual military service. Quite desperate, are you?
There’s no freeloading in my life.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:58 amNot that I advocate defending the trolls and their logic (or lack thereof), but it is obivious that CT_Version 2 is being name jacked.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:58 amIn a nutshell Bilbo, Americans have a right to fight any country that invades them, but the Iraqi people do not have a right to fight against us. Thats like biting the hand that feeds you.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:59 amAnd where am I putting words in peoples mouth?
Think I wouldn’t know the exact views of my own father?
Not much of a family man, are you?
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:50 am
Are you so sure about that? Then let your father argue his own knowledge. Lets see him, not a pale reflection presented by a son who, in his zeal might not have all the facts.
And yes, military families make sacrifices. However, that sacrifice is not something special you cling to all of your life – and you cannot claim it as a higher mark nobility.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:00 pmComment by Ex Jarhead — August 12, 2007 @ 11:55 am
Military freeloader: one who puts on a uniform only to remain stateside and collect GI benefits, all without giving much in return (i.e, freedom) to the public that provides those benefits.
Hope that clears that up, fake Marine.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:00 pmYea I know Jeannie. Its what you libs do when you can’t beat my logic.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:00 pmJust because I insult someones service doesn’t give anyone the right to use my handle. I don’t believe he was a marine,and thats that. I could care less if he lost an arm in Iraq, or stepped on a bouncing betty in Viet Nam.
If he’s a liberal, then he can never really be a Marine. Marines are like me. Patriots.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pmComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 12:00 pm
I’m done bouncing a braindead lefty off the wall.I think I can speak for my father, you idiot. LOL.
Conservative is as conservative does, and my father a real conservative, fully hates lefties.
You two have nothing in common, trust me. I’m representing everything correctly. I think I would know. What makes you believe your projection to come first? He knows and states that the Iraq effort is worth it.
I’m done, hypocrite lefty.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:04 pmCT_Version 2
You haven’t presented any logic for us to refute. All you have done is made claims about your father in a manner which speaks, to me, of contempt.
Call your father up. Ask him to look on these forums and argue, lets see what HE has to say.
Or, is it possible, that your representation of his views, is not 100% accurate?
August 12th, 2007 at 12:04 pmIn fact, I don’t think they let liberals in the Marines. I guess one or two might sneak in if no one asks and they don’t tell, but other than that liberals are just not the stuff Marines are made of.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:04 pmExplain how I’m insulting my own father’s actual military service.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:58 am
I met more than a few lifers who were goodhearted people, but there were a few who “couldn’t make it on the outside” and just hung in to suck on the government’s teat to get a pension and didn’t have a heart at all. I think you’re insulting your daddy by putting words in his mouth and making him out to be a sycophant with no respect for his own troops…
August 12th, 2007 at 12:05 pmThe only true patriots are those who shut up, get in line, and do exactly what the president says. Anyone daring to voice dissent, is a traitor and an enemy to America.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:06 pmComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 12:04 pm
No, Bruce. You’re only desperate to hear what you want to hear, and that’s a military veteran touting your lefty line. Ain’t gonna happen.
Stop wasting your time. Stop acting like a know-it-all.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:06 pmComment by Ex Jarhead — August 12, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
A lefty would say that, and that’s why you couldn’t possibly be a Marine.
Get out before the government prosecutes you for impersonating a member of the military.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:07 pmIt’s official: Lefties lose
August 12th, 2007 at 12:09 pmNever mind that more democrats in congress served in the military than republicans. They didn’t really serve, because in their hearts, they’re democrats.
Guys like Scott Ritter and Paul Hackett don’t deserve their medals because they are too cowardly to be republicans.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:09 pmComment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 12:04 pm
If you are so sure that you can speak so accurately for him, phone him. He will be delighted to hear from you, give him the URL and ask him to argue with us.
If you were right, about his views, then he will confirm what you have to say. If you were wrong, he will correct your error, because you see, he has actually served and might well have definite views on service that are quite different to yours.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:09 pmLefties who serve in the military nullify their service because they are tauting lefty ideals. The only way they should ever be honored is if they join the conservative movement.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:10 pmThere’s no freeloading in my life.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:58 am
Oh, your daddy isn’t sending you to school… I bet he’s real proud of you basking in the glory of his service to the country. There are actually military folk who believe in upholding their oath to the constitution, and you seem to be saying that you ‘paps’ isn’t one of those…
August 12th, 2007 at 12:12 pmLook at that lowlife Max Clelland. Got his pathetic liberal body blown to bits, and thinks that makes him a war hero. If he was a real war hero, he’d be supporting President Bush.
There is no room for dissent in America. The founding fathers said so, and we’re here to make sure you all tow the line. Our line. Step out of it, and you’re with the terrorists.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:12 pmComment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 12:09 pm
He’d give you the same chewing, so that wouldn’t exactly matter.
Exactly, what gives you the confidence that it’ll make a difference?
Stop trying speaking for military veterans. Don’t put words in their mouth. You want the man to tout your lefty line, and that’s not going to happen.
Clear?
August 12th, 2007 at 12:13 pmOnce we’ve killed all the Iraqi’s who won’t submit to us, then the rest of them will get in line. You see. The remaining Iraqi’s will be more loyal Patriots than any liberal ever could be. And if they don’t then they won’t be breathing oxygen.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:16 pmWhen we get an American flag flying over every Muslim country in the middle east, then they’ll be happy, because they’ll be like us. Everyone wants to be like us. We’re the new world order. Get used to it, or get the hell out of the way.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:17 pmCT_Version 2
I am not entirely sure he would. After all, you seem terribly afraid to contact him, are you ashamed of your posts here? Do you think that he will think less of you for your posts here?
Are there things here which you have posted, which you do not stand by? Come on, let him state his own views in his own words. Lets hear what he has to say.
Because somehow, I don’t think it will be that leftwing combat veterans invalidate their service by being leftwing.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:18 pmPeople don’t like Hitler because he went about it the wrong way. Gassing the Jews was a dumb move. Not because it was so evil or anything, but because it put the German people in a bad light. Doing it all at once like that, to a passive group of people, well, no ones going to get on board with a deal like that.
But suppose they went about it like we’re doing in Iraq? Get the people all stirred up, fighting us, fighting themselves. Then its not genocide, its just war. And everyone knows war is hell. If the Germans had went about it like that, then they would not have caught all the crap afterwords, much of it undeserved mind you.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:20 pmComment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 12:20 pm
I will treat this post as being a namejacker. Please, whoever is doing that, stop it. It isn’t funny.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:22 pmNo one in America would ever let a foreign country come in and occupy us and tell us what to do. Its unAmerican, and we just would not let it happen. Period.
We’d fight to the last dying man.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 11:41 am
Why do you have a problem with the Iraqis fighting us? You don’t see that you’re being hypocritiacal here?
August 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmStop trying speaking for military veterans. Don’t put words in their mouth.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 12:13 pm
You’re the guy doing that, civilian
August 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmBruce Gorton @ 149
After all the insanity this troll has posted, it’s rather hard to tell, isn’t it?
August 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmWhy do you have a problem with the Iraqis fighting us? You don’t see that you’re being hypocritiacal here?
Comment by Rose Tyler — August 12, 2007 @ 12:23 pm
No, of course not. We are there to help the Iraqi people, because inside of every Iraqi, is an American, trying to get out.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:24 pmNo, of course not. We are there to help the Iraqi people, because inside of every Iraqi, is an American, trying to get out.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 12:24 pm
So the US military is over there killing Americans…
August 12th, 2007 at 12:29 pmIf the Germans had went about it like that, then they would not have caught all the crap afterwords, much of it undeserved mind you.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 12:20 pm
All the “crap” afterwords was the Marshall Plan which catapulted Germany to a democratic economic powerhouse in Europe. And to claim that the genocide commited by the NAZIs was not “so evil”, but a poor PR move??? I don’t normally favor name calling but you ARE a pro- Nazi Idiot.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:29 pmRose Tyler
Sometimes, but that one went just a bit far.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:31 pmCT_Version 2 @ 153,
You are ridiculous, whether you’re being hijacked or not. Please gro up, get an education and learn to be a human being.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:31 pmThank you.
So the US military is over there killing Americans…
Comment by Ex Jarhead — August 12, 2007 @ 12:29 pm
No. If they won’t submit, then they’re not Americans, and deserve to get killed.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:33 pmYou people don’t get it do you? You just don’t get it.
911 CHANGED EVERYTHING!
Arabs attacked us on 911. Muslim Arabs. So its our right, hell our duty, to either convert or kill the rest of them. We can’t let that happen again.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:36 pmCT_Version 2
So, um, what makes an American, is defined by a willingness to submit to a foreign power ruled by a guy named George?
August 12th, 2007 at 12:37 pmNo. If they won’t submit, then they’re not Americans, and deserve to get killed.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 12:33 pm
Spoken like a true Nazi.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:39 pmLike I said, if we tried to round them all up and gas em, then that wouldn’t work. We need to first offer them a chance to accept democracy as we give it to them, and then, if they don’t take our generous offer, then we need to position them in a warlike situation, where we can wipe them out.
Don’t worry. We’re well on the way. According to Johns Hopkins we’ve managed to kill, or help kill a million of them already and we’re just getting started.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:39 pmArabs attacked us on 911. Muslim Arabs. So its our right, hell our duty, to either convert or kill the rest of them. We can’t let that happen again.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
Uh, CT…
http://911blogger.com/node/10025
August 12th, 2007 at 12:39 pmSo, um, what makes an American, is defined by a willingness to submit to a foreign power ruled by a guy named George?
Comment by Bruce Gorton — August 12, 2007 @ 12:37 pm
If you mean what makes an American is defined by a willingess to submit to a greater nation that is helping you crawl out of the dirt and into the light, then yes. Loyalty to the President is the first duty of every real American.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:40 pmDon’t you get it. They’re arabs! They hate us for our freedoms. We need to show them the way to truly be free like us, and those who won’t go along are enemies to that freedom and need to be eradicated. Personally I don’t care if we have to slaughter a billion of them if it means the rest will get in line.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:43 pmLoyalty to the President is the first duty of every real American.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
You are insane.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:43 pmEventually the Iraqi insurgents might assassinate Maliki too. Bush has destroyed Iraq to steal its OIL wealth.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:43 pmArabs attacked us on 911. Muslim Arabs. So its our right, hell our duty, to either convert or kill the rest of them. We can’t let that happen again.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
What’s up with all this Nazi-like rhetoric?
August 12th, 2007 at 12:44 pmComment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
Um, okaaayyy, you do realise that you just called America’s revolutionary leaders un-American don’t you? Particularly given that America, at the time was a colony while England, was a superpower.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:44 pmLoyalty to the President is the first duty of every real American.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
Actually, the oaths taken by military and elected officials are to uphold the Constitution…
August 12th, 2007 at 12:44 pmYou are insane.
Comment by Rose Tyler — August 12, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
Why? Because I am man enough to support my commander in chief?
You’re insane if you don’t. You think those arabs like you? They don’t. They have to first be taught to fear, and thus respect you. Then they might like you. And the only way to teach them respect is to kill the ones who won’t submit. Who cares how many of them die? Its American lives that matter here.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:45 pmActually, the oaths taken by military and elected officials are to uphold the Constitution…
Comment by Ex Jarhead — August 12, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
The Constitution is just a peice of paper written by dead men. President Bush is a living breathing human being, who can lead us out of the darkness created by the arabs. If you would just trust him, and follow him then everythign would work out fine.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:46 pmCT > you would have been a proud Nazi who died with Hitler in his Berlin bunker. We are not going to follow Bush anywhere, but you can march to Hell with him.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:50 pmYou are insane.
Comment by Rose Tyler — August 12, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
Insane probably not. Grossly starved for attention definately. If child is ruled out then their is a whole lot of weirdeness going on. Like the photo my kids found of me in Sex Pistols T and spiked hair. CT will someday have to come to terms with this nonsense.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:50 pmBest-
People compare us to Hitler and Germany and maybe our tactics are similar. Just because Hitler was a bad guy doesn’t mean his methods were necessarily bad. The difference between us and them, is that we mean well. Our intentions are good, therefore our actions cannot be judged as bad.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:50 pm“You’re insane if you don’t. You think those arabs like you? They don’t.”
I don’t really care if they like us. There are people who don’t like me and I don’t give a sh*t.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:51 pmWe are not going to follow Bush anywhere, but you can march to Hell with him.
Comment by Jay Randal — August 12, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
No, you will follow Bush, or you’ll find yourselves in the same position as the Iraqis. Get it Randal? Get on board or get runover. Your call.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:52 pmDick Cheney ‘94: Invading Baghdad Would Create Quagmire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I
August 12th, 2007 at 12:54 pmAnd if war starts with Iran or some other country, then Bush isn’t going anywhere so you better get used to it. Martial law will be imposed if this war gets any bigger and when that happens you can kiss your silly elections goodbye. Get used to listening to the wisdom of our leader because he’s not going anywhere.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:55 pmOur intentions are good, therefore our actions cannot be judged as bad.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
You’re giving a new depth to the expression ‘military brat’… With all of the problems the country is having, I had no idea that education for military dependents is so deficient as give rise to the statement above…
August 12th, 2007 at 12:57 pmWhat you are describing right now is a fascist dictatorship, and if that is what you aim for, CT, then it is the duty of every man, woman and child in America to stop you. And your father, if this really posting this, will be forced to fight his own son.
America is a country of laws, not of men. It is a nation whose blueprint is written into frail paper, yet blessed with a strength no atomic bomb can grant. It is a country whose glory is not contained simply in its borders, or its military might, but in the might of that document.
It is a country which can be wrong, which can learn and correct itself over time to prevent repeating that wrong. It is a nation whose strength is not in god, and not in men, but in its laws.
It is a country whose greatness is not in its power, but in its strength. Power can destroy anything, but it takes strength to create anything, and America, for all of its power, can be a strong nation.
August 12th, 2007 at 12:58 pm“Not that I advocate defending the trolls and their logic (or lack thereof), but it is obivious that CT_Version 2 is being name jacked.
Comment by Jeannie See”
The problem is, which is the real CT_Version 2?
August 12th, 2007 at 1:03 pmCT is either a parady troll or a Nazi skinhead who has lost his mind.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:07 pmOnly the completely brain-dead would follow Bush anywhere. Dubya is becoming nuttier than Hitler and that is very disturbing thing.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:13 pmSo back on topic. The governor was murdered. The Brits are set to pull their remaining troops out of Basra. Rival Shiite militias are fighting and jockeying for power. Shiites have been ethnically cleansing Baghdad Neighborhoods, replacing Sunni families with Shiite families , all under the watchfull eyes of the Iraqi police and army. The sunnis have left the Goverment, which is on vacation anyhow. General petraeus has ordered pig lipstick…..
August 12th, 2007 at 1:14 pmOnly the completely brain-dead would follow Bush anywhere. Dubya is becoming nuttier than Hitler and that is very disturbing thing.
Comment by Jay Randal — August 12, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Weak.
As I said Bush is not like Hitler. People compare them because their methods are similar. The containment of Al Anbar for instance, could be likened to the Warsaw Ghetto in Poland. Similar tactics to be sure, from both sides. Thats why lefties are always comparing Bush to Hitler.
But the fact is Bush’s intentions are good, and Hitlers were bad. Bush is trying to save the world. Hitler was trying to destroy it.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:22 pmGood men sometimes have to adopt the tactics of bad ones to get the job done. Dick Cheney tried to explain that to you 4 years ago on Meet the Press, but you’re all to stupid to listen.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:23 pmThe problem is, which is the real CT_Version 2?
Comment by bilbobaggins — August 12, 2007 @ 1:03 pm
Yes, that is the question. CT has painted himself into quite a corner, when people can’t tell where he leaves off and a possible hijacker begins.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:24 pmNo CT sorry to burst your bubble of love for Bush, but he is a bad person and is trying to ignite global WWIII.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:25 pm-test-
August 12th, 2007 at 1:34 pmINo CT sorry to burst your bubble of love for Bush, but he is a bad person and is trying to ignite global WWIII.
Comment by Jay Randal — August 12, 2007 @ 1:25 pm
No Jay if WWIII comes it will be because of liberals who are afraid to kill the bad guys and protect America. If we don’t stop the Iraqis from all joining Al Quaida, like they want to, then they’ll all be coming over here to kill us in our sleep.
President Bush is a good man because he knows this and is not afraid of making the tough choices. If you want to make an omlet you’ve got to break a few heads. Or as in this case, a few million.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:36 pmThis Iraqi Govenor got killed by a roadside bomb. So? Our soldiers get killed by them all the time. About time one of the rotten Iraqis got taken out by one. Theres a million more of them who look and talk just like this so called Govenor, so we’ll just pick another name out of a hat and keep gettin on.
Thats what it means to be tough. Republican tough.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:38 pmHe’s not really the Govenor of anything anyway. We are the Govenors.
We just put Iraqi’s in those offices for photo ops.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:39 pmCT_Version 2
Could the troll clone please go away now. Putting words in other people’s mouths is just plain dishonest – and besides, trolls are much more amusing when they are fed enough rope to hang themselves.
All you are doing is making it look like the left can’t win a fair argument, and thus far I see us as winning.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:41 pmIf we don’t stop the Iraqis from all joining Al Quaida, like they want to….
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
This comment demonstrates an ignorance of the situation in Iraq.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:45 pmThe Iraqi Shiites are getting blown up by Al Qaeda Car bombs. Their HOLY sites were blown up by Al Qaeda. Shiites will not be joining Al Qaeda.
Same for the Kurds and the al Anbar Shieks.
To conflate Al Qaeda with the insurgency is a mistake both you and the Bush Administration are making.
Comment by CT_Version 2 — August 12, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
This comment demonstrates an ignorance of the situation in Iraq.
The Iraqi Shiites are getting blown up by Al Qaeda Car bombs. Their HOLY sites were blown up by Al Qaeda. Shiites will not be joining Al Qaeda.
Same for the Kurds and the al Anbar Shieks.
Comment by Badger — August 12, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
Wrong Badger. That shiite thing is just that. Shiite. Something invented by self important liberals to keep us from liberating Iraq. I’m not even sure there was such a word before we went in.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:48 pmThey all want to join Al Queda. Its something in the turbans I think.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:53 pmLike I said, toss another name in a hat and pick another “govenor” lol.
We’ve to millions of them ready to go. Just pick another, and when he gets killed, pick another. We’re the bosses. Not the Iraqis. They have no say so in this matter, and they have absolutely no right to complain.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:55 pmNot a good idea to call a death Governor a good Think
August 12th, 2007 at 1:57 pmNot a good idea to call a death Governor a good Think
Comment by HPG — August 12, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
You mean its not a good idea to call a DEAD Govenor a good THING?
I didn’t call it a good thing I said its about time an Iraqi got a taste of their own IEDs. Now maybe they’ll stop planting them. But who cares anyway? He’s not really a Govenor. He’s just someone we put their so the Iraqis think they’re in charge. We’re in charge, and nothings going to change that. Iraq will one day be a US State.
August 12th, 2007 at 2:14 pmAnd if most of the Iraqi’s have to die so a few of them can live like good Americans do, then so be it.
After all, it worked for the American Indian.
August 12th, 2007 at 4:18 pmWe decide what happens in this world. The US. (the republican US that is).
WE DECIDE.
We’re the deciders.
And everyone else can just shut up and get in line.
August 12th, 2007 at 4:19 pmBush’s Iraq venture is a failure. Surge has failed. This is his legacy. Worst president in history.
August 12th, 2007 at 4:22 pmWe attacked the wrong country. Iraq had no WMDs. No yellow cake uranium. But they did have oil.
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All of the above are name-jacked postings — and those are just the ones posted since I left around 12:00.
Credit is given to the native posters (progressives) who detected them, especially Bruce Gorton.
August 12th, 2007 at 6:16 pmBush’s Iraq venture is a failure. Surge has failed. This is his legacy. Worst president in history.
Comment by Probus — August 12, 2007 @ 4:22 pm
yep – and osama still hasn’t been caught – along with al-sadr – and now they’re going to give bush’s oil to iran!!!
August 12th, 2007 at 11:45 pmtest
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