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Rove: ‘I’m Moby Dick.’

By Faiz Shakir on Aug 13th, 2007 at 9:40 pm

Rove: ‘I’m Moby Dick.’

In an interview today, Karl Rove said, “I’m realistic enough to understand that the subpoenas are going to keep flying my way. I’m Moby Dick and we’ve got three or four members of Congress who are trying to cast themselves in the part of Captain Ahab — so they’re going to keep coming.”




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258 Responses to “Rove: ‘I’m Moby Dick.’”

  1. PeterW Says:

    This one's really too easy.


  2. thoughtcriminal Says:

    get the harpoon, Queequeg!


  3. bilbobaggins Says:

    They are going to keep coming because you are a criminal Karl. That's what happen when you do things like commit treason and perjury.

    Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. I just pray that his day of reckoning comes before I die.


  4. Zooey Says:

    What a dope.


  5. Jay Randal Says:

    LOL at least Karl Rove equates himself with a fat white whale.


  6. Sharon Says:

    My guess even the native american tribe's with whale permit's would like to harpoon that huge block of blubber.....Blessings


  7. WalterTheMan Says:

    Will a new ID work?


  8. Jay Randal Says:

    Maybe Rove is insinuating that Bush baby is Captain Ahab who will be pulled under water with the white whale to his political death.


  9. WalterTheMan Says:

    Boy that was simple!


  10. WalterTMan Says:

    But it only worked once!


  11. WalterTheMan Says:

    At least, I know my ID has been blocked.


  12. Zooey Says:

    At least, I know my ID has been blocked.
    Comment by WalterTheMan — August 13, 2007 @ 9:53 pm

    Isn't it weird, Walt? I wish TP would fiz their system.


  13. Lee Says:

    I'm not sure about the Moby part, but at least Rove's acknowledging he's a Dick.


  14. Zooey Says:

    Or at least FIX it. :-D


  15. katy Says:

    i think that's the problem, zooey...
    the system is fizzed...

    i'm outta here...

    g'nite...



  16. katy Says:

    oh, zooey... before i go...
    are you able to check email? fb?


  17. JPark Says:

    Zoo, I am not sure fixing it would help...if it is intentional. Then again I am not banned yet.


  18. WaltTheMan Says:

    We need registration. Where my Id was misused would require a Google search in about two days after the pages are randomly distributed.


  19. Zooey Says:

    Goodnight, katy. :)


  20. JPark Says:

    clipse, same reason you and your 18 aliases don't.


  21. Zooey Says:

    are you able to check email? fb?
    Comment by katy — August 13, 2007 @ 9:57 pm

    FB -- I should do that. :}


  22. Chaz Says:

    Well, Rove is 1/2 right...


  23. Sharon Says:

    Lady Z, I'm back to having problem's with the sight again..It was pretty good this morning and now back to nightmare status..Think the filter's and troll traffick has something to do with it...Oh well.! Hope they get it fixed.....Blessings


  24. WaltTheMan Says:

    Good night Zooey, Helyn-wheels thanks you for your birthday wishes.


  25. katy Says:

    well... it's a little dated now... still interesting...
    just thought you'd like to know...

    later...


  26. Zooey Says:

    Goodnight, Walt. Thanks for passing on the good wishes. :)


  27. r Says:

    I’m not sure about the Moby part, but at least Rove’s acknowledging he’s a Dick.
    Comment by Lee — August 13, 2007 @ 9:55 pm

    Wheeee. Lee, I haven’t seen you post here recently, but that’s wildly entertaining. You called Rove a Dick. Wow, you crazy guy!


  28. Jay Randal Says:

    AmericaBlog mentions that Rove said he is resigning to spend more time with his family? Could be code-words that Larry Flint has info on Rove getting with male hookers and is about to release it. Rove could be tied into the DC Madam scandal too, but she would have had to send Karl a male hooker not a female one.


  29. JPark Says:

    "Wheeee. Lee, I haven’t seen you post here recently, but that’s wildly entertaining. You called Rove a Dick. Wow, you crazy guy!"

    You just proved that this is not your first alias. What was the comment about Walt for? Was it hypocrisy?


  30. ronjazz Says:

    Wheeee. Lee, I haven’t seen you post here recently, but that’s wildly entertaining. You called Rove a Dick. Wow, you crazy guy!

    Comment by r — August 13, 2007 @ 10:06 pm

    Yeah, slimeball traitor deserving of life in prison would be far more fitting. Still, he is a dick.


  31. JPark Says:

    Or was it just another of your stupid questions, Mikey?


  32. BARTLEBEE Says:

    Moby Dick?

    More like just a dick.


  33. JPark Says:

    So, if he is Moby Dick, doesn't that make him the anti-hero?


  34. Zooey Says:

    AmericaBlog mentions that Rove said he is resigning to spend more time with his family?
    Comment by Jay Randal — August 13, 2007 @ 10:07 pm

    Poor family......


  35. michael Says:

    "What a dope.

    Comment by Zooey — August 13, 2007"

    Who? You?


  36. michael Says:

    "Isn’t it weird, Walt? I wish TP would fiz their system.

    Comment by Zooey — August 13, 2007"

    It's about time TP started blocking dumb liberal rhetoric!


  37. ronjazz Says:

    Who? You?

    Comment by michael — August 13, 2007 @ 10:13 pm

    well, no. You.


  38. michael Says:

    "oh, zooey… before i go…
    are you able to check email? fb?

    Comment by katy — August 13, 2007"

    Once she learns how to read!


  39. Homer S. Says:

    Mmmmmmm . . . Whale meat.


  40. ronjazz Says:

    It’s about time TP started blocking dumb liberal rhetoric!

    Comment by michael — August 13, 2007 @ 10:15 pm

    Sorry, no such thing. Now, dumb repig lies, there's something worth blocking.


  41. Zooey Says:

    Hope they get it fixed…..Blessings
    Comment by Sharon — August 13, 2007 @ 9:59 pm

    Hopefully soon, Great Lady. Good to see you here. :)


  42. JPark Says:

    Nice of you to make an appearance without your new identity, Mikey.


  43. Marie Says:

    Well, Rove, rumor has it that Abramoff is blabbing about your bribery connections. So Congress may not have to hold hearings, you may be seen in a federal courtroom - is that why Bushie has stacked the courts with his political hacks? To protect you? And him, after that. Will our suspicions be confirmed?


  44. JPark Says:

    Marie, no matter how much the media and the right are downplaying this...Rove wouldn't resign without a good reason (a damning reason). There is much more to this than we know.


  45. Admiral Bentbow Says:

    All hands on dick!
    We've got him now boys, don't let him slip under!


  46. Zooey Says:

    Nice of you to make an appearance without your new identity, Mikey.
    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007 @ 10:17 pm

    Hi, JPark. "r" is a whole different idiot -- yep, another one. :D


  47. ronjazz Says:

    Rhetorical questions, Marie. Yes to all. they've shown how little the respect the law, the Constitution and the American citizenry. there isn't a one of them in the madministration that shouldn't spend their lives behind bars or finish off at the end of a rope.


  48. JPark Says:

    I am not convinced yet, Zoo. It seems that all of our trolls are recycled. I will keep an open mind.


  49. r Says:

    Finally, recognition.

    BTW Zooey somebody on an earlier thread accused me of being the one stalking.

    I don't even know what that is.

    So, for what it's worth.

    The dems are still wrong, but I'm not stalking.


  50. JPark Says:

    If you don't know what stalking is how can you be sure you aren't doing it?


  51. michael Says:

    "dumb repig lies, there’s something worth blocking.

    Comment by ronjazz — August 13, 2007"

    Care to give us an example?


  52. JPark Says:

    Hehe, typical Mikey. He reminds me of the three monkeys.


  53. r Says:

    If you don’t know what stalking is how can you be sure you aren’t doing it?
    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007 @ 10:26 pm

    That’s kind of a good point. But like I said, I know what real stalking is, not that I've done it....

    And all I do is respond to posts. Isn’t that what everybody does?


  54. michael Says:

    "Nice of you to make an appearance without your new identity, Mikey.

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007"

    I only have one id. I don't need to hide from you dopes!


  55. BARTLEBEE Says:

    Rove likes Dick.


  56. michael Says:

    "there isn’t a one of them in the madministration that shouldn’t spend their lives behind bars or finish off at the end of a rope.

    Comment by ronjazz — August 13, 200"

    LOL! For what?


  57. JPark Says:

    Ok, r. Fair point. Mikey was seriously stalking her. Every post he had s question about. A stupid question but still...if Zooey posted, no matter how innocuous he was there with his erection. Zooey says he isn't you so I won't treat you like Mikey until you deserve it.


  58. Marie Says:

    JPark and ronjazz
    We may never learn the facts behind this sudden departure. Many excuses are being bandied about by the msm, but they don't know either. Even Bill Kristol didn't have a warning. (Of course, even his "best friends" think he's a jerk too.)
    The whole lot of them are crooks, liars, and weasels. If fate (or karma) is eventually fair, we will see them in prison.


  59. michael Says:

    "I will keep an open mind.

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007"

    You have a mind?


  60. JPark Says:

    Mikey, have you ever wondered why? Do you think that maybe you are a harmless, Corkylike, dolt?


  61. Raven Says:

    "stalking.
    I don’t even know what that is."
    Comment by r

    Stalking is endlessly chewing on celery which has gone to seed, and is better suited for making rope than eating.
    Kind of like your pointless gnawing on other posters comments, to no avail.


  62. JPark Says:

    "You have a mind?"

    Hilarious. I bet you keep Red State in stitches.


  63. michael Says:

    "BTW Zooey somebody on an earlier thread accused me of being the one stalking.

    I don’t even know what that is.

    Comment by r — August 13, 2007"

    Don't expect an intelligent explanation from zooey!


  64. r Says:

    Why would trolls need to diminish your high borough progressive intellect when you have these jewels:

    Rove likes Dick.
    Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 13, 2007 @ 10:30 pm

    Heh, you guys are great.


  65. michael Says:

    "Hehe, typical Mikey. He reminds me of the three monkeys.

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007"

    Does that mean you can't give us an example?


  66. NanBullen Says:

    With the exception of one small word (Moby) I would have to agree with Rove's comment about himself. He's a total Dick without the Moby.


  67. JPark Says:

    Marie, I think we will know within the next two weeks. I don't see him resigning if he wasn't in really hot water. He may even be saving his own ass by not being subject to Executive fiat. I may be being very optimistic, but I just don't see him leaving to "spend more time with his family" unless he is in some serious trouble.


  68. Zooey Says:

    Kind of like your pointless gnawing on other posters comments, to no avail.
    Comment by Raven — August 13, 2007 @ 10:32 pm

    I've never heard of such a touching simile involving celery. :-D


  69. r Says:

    I’m not sure about the Moby part, but at least Rove’s acknowledging he’s a Dick.

    Comment by Lee — August 13, 2007 @ 9:55 pm

    Needs to be repeated cause it's so good!!!!!



  70. michael Says:

    "The whole lot of them are crooks, liars, and weasels. If fate (or karma) is eventually fair, we will see them in prison.

    Comment by Marie — August 13, 2007"

    Care to back your rhetoric up. Don't be too embarrassed if you can't!


  71. JPark Says:

    r, if you want credibility (not saying you do, but IF you do) Mikey is not the guy to give it to you.


  72. michael Says:

    "Do you think that maybe you are a harmless, Corkylike, dolt?

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007"

    Do you ever realize what meaningless liberals you are?


  73. JPark Says:

    "Does that mean you can’t give us an example?"

    Well, you didn't ask me before but I will go out on a limb and say...do you remember when he said he would fire the guy that outed Plame? Hasn't happened. Kind of a lie.


  74. JPark Says:

    "Do you ever realize what meaningless liberals you are?"

    Sure I do. But then I think of what a tool I would be if I were a conservative. Makes me feel a lot better.


  75. r Says:

    “Wheeee. Lee, I haven’t seen you post here recently, but that’s wildly entertaining. You called Rove a Dick. Wow, you crazy guy!”

    You just proved that this is not your first alias. What was the comment about Walt for? Was it hypocrisy?

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007 @ 10:08 pm

    Sorry I didn't see this earlier. I don't really know what it means???

    You just proved that this is not your first alias. What was the comment about Walt for? Was it hypocrisy?

    If you were right, it may be true, but I don't get the references?


  76. Marie Says:

    Don't reply to michael; he is recently released from an institution where he was not allowed to read papers or hear the news, hence, his rididulously ignorant and uninformed questions and comments. He is clueless.


  77. michael Says:

    "r, if you want credibility (not saying you do, but IF you do) Mikey is not the guy to give it to you.

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007"

    There is NO credibility on this blog! That's why I enjoy coming here. I challenged her stupid statement, asked her to back it up, and she can't!


  78. JPark Says:

    r, you said a couple of things that lead me to believe r is not your first alias. One, you said you have taken Mikey to task. I haven't seen that from r. Two, you said you haven't seen Walt post recently. r is very recent.


  79. michael Says:

    "Don’t reply to michael; he is recently released from an institution where he was not allowed to read papers or hear the news, hence, his rididulously ignorant and uninformed questions and comments. He is clueless.

    Comment by Marie — August 13, 2007"

    Struggling with that response marie? You and zooey are so alike!


  80. r Says:

    Wheeee. Lee, I haven’t seen you post here recently, but that’s wildly entertaining. You called Rove a Dick. Wow, you crazy guy!
    Comment by r — August 13, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
    Yeah, slimeball traitor deserving of life in prison would be far more fitting. Still, he is a dick.
    Comment by ronjazz — August 13, 2007 @ 10:08 pm

    Not nearly as entertaining.


  81. JPark Says:

    So, you get off on going to irrelevent blogs and being a jerk? Not that I am insulting you but that sounds really pathetic? Are you not good enought to go to relevent liberal blogs?


  82. michael Says:

    "you said you have taken Mikey to task. I haven’t seen that from r. Two, you said you haven’t seen Walt post recently. r is very recent.

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007"

    Ha ha ha ha! Taken me to task? Tell us all about it?


  83. JPark Says:

    Mikey, everybody and their 4 year old niece has taken you to task. Don't start.


  84. Barfly Says:

    Rove is more Charlie the Tuna than Moby Dick.

    Permanent republican majority?

    Sorry, Charlie!


  85. michael Says:

    "So, you get off on going to irrelevent blogs and being a jerk?

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007"

    I get off on going to liberal blogs and challenging dopey liberal rhetoric and watching you HIDE!


  86. Raven Says:

    There is NO credibility on this blog! That’s why I enjoy coming here.
    Comment by michael — August 13, 2007

    Do you feel safe here michael?
    No one to see you, courageous in your anonyminity?


  87. michael Says:

    "Mikey, everybody and their 4 year old niece has taken you to task. Don’t start.

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007"

    Hey park? How about ONE example? Just ONE?


  88. thoughtcriminal Says:

    my posts have disappeared repeatedly... TP needs a new comment system.. badly.

    I wouldn't be surprised if our posts are all going into the DHS database after being tagged with keywords that the repugs find offensive: constitution, impeachment, free elections, 4th amendment, etc.

    Rove will continue in Bush's shadow government (albeit behind the scenes) while helping with the "transition of power" to Romney or Thompson or Uncle Rudy. He will also take a fat paying job with Halliburton or Exxon and he will never be prosecuted for his multitude of crimes.

    I read this earlier and I've been thinking about it for a while now. Don’t be surprised to see one of the following in 2008:
    - A stolen election for a Republican who will continue the war and the high crimes against America.
    - Suspension of the democratic process and the appointment of High Chancellor Cheney who promises to step down once the war on terror is won.

    Something's up and nobody seems to be talking about it yet. Maybe Rove is leaving to avoid suspicion for another crime which these fools will more than likely commit. Something big in the works, Darth?

    Rove ain't going anywhere, just changing his mask. Watch the commentary in MSM start to echo that "Bush doesn't want to be president anymore" and that he's "longing to be back in Crawford". Meanwhile KKKarl and Darth Cheney have their slimy fingers wrapping around the next "appointee".

    Something I learned raising kids - watch em closest when they tell you they're not doing anything.

    White whale, indeed. What a fool.


  89. JPark Says:

    "I get off on going to liberal blogs and challenging dopey liberal rhetoric and watching you HIDE!"

    Yep, everybody hides from you. Sure.


  90. Zep Tepi Says:

    I get off on going to liberal blogs and challenging dopey liberal rhetoric and watching you HIDE!

    Comment by michael

    Oh really? So why did the Repugs lose in 2006? Why does Karl let 4 dopey Ahab members of congress force him to go hide?


  91. michael Says:

    "Yep, everybody hides from you. Sure.

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007"

    Couldn't come up with even ONE example?


  92. Zep Tepi Says:


    During the campaign, an Observer reporter sat in Rove's office just after Bush had delivered a speech that was supposed to needle Ann Richards about her alleged misuse of state phones for political purposes.

    Yet Karl misused email for political purposes and now hes crying that he's being attacked! Wahhh.


  93. michael Says:

    "Oh really? So why did the Repugs lose in 2006?

    Comment by Zep Tepi — August 13, 2007"

    What does that have to do with my coming here and challenging you dopes?


  94. MCMetal Says:

    “r, if you want credibility (not saying you do, but IF you do) Mikey is not the guy to give it to you.

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007″

    There is NO credibility on this blog! That’s why I enjoy coming here. I challenged her stupid statement, asked her to back it up, and she can’t!

    Comment by michael — August 13, 2007 @ 10:41 pm

    You continue to back the worst president and administration in US history , without any facts , proof or reasoning , and you're trying to claim others lack credibility ?

    You sound like you're related to Scott Peterson and OJ , you ignorant twit.......


  95. JPark Says:

    Actually, Mikey, I got deleted twice. You get "girly slapped" by everybody anytime you come here. You are just too stupid to realize it. I bet every time you get your a$$ handed to you, you STILL think you won.


  96. thoughtcriminal Says:

    ignore! it's easy!


  97. MCMetal Says:

    “Oh really? So why did the Repugs lose in 2006?

    Comment by Zep Tepi — August 13, 2007″

    What does that have to do with my coming here and challenging you dopes?

    Comment by michael — August 13, 2007 @ 10:52 pm

    "Challenging" people with what ?
    Gop rhetorical bullshit ?
    Great ............


  98. Barfly Says:

    Couldn’t come up with even ONE example?

    Comment by michael

    I've played this game with Mike before. Give him an example, he'll disappear and later play dumb.


  99. thoughtcriminal Says:

    ignore!

    ignore!

    ignore!


  100. JPark Says:

    thoughtcriminal, you can ignore if you like. I choose not to.


  101. michael Says:

    "Actually, Mikey, I got deleted twice. You get “girly slapped” by everybody anytime you come here. You are just too stupid to realize it. I bet every time you get your a$$ handed to you, you STILL think you won.

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007"

    But yet you STILL can't provide ONE example? You have no credibility!


  102. Sharon Says:

    Thoughtcriminal, I must agree with you..It ain't over till the fat lady sing's and 2008 is not a sure thing...Blessings


  103. michael Says:

    "Give him an example, he’ll disappear and later play dumb.

    Comment by Barfly — August 13, 2007"

    He can't!


  104. tarazan Says:

    Rove:'I am Moby Dick'
    Cheney:' there is only one Dick here...and that's me..'


  105. Zep Tepi Says:

    Couldn’t come up with even ONE example?
    Comment by michael

    Oh put a sock in it already michael, you thought you chased off Zooey the other day, lo and behold, there she sits unafraid and unflustered of the little self elected wizard of Oz blowing thats trying to blow smoke outta some stage set.


  106. r Says:

    r, if you want credibility (not saying you do, but IF you do) Mikey is not the guy to give it to you.

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007 @ 10:37 pm

    Thanks JPark. Not wanting cred from Mikey - don't know his stuff. May be Right and right per usual.

    I've never been credibly rebutted on TP. Only shouted down.


  107. michael Says:

    "Gop rhetorical bullshit ?

    Comment by MCMetal — August 13, 2007"

    Give me an example?


  108. JPark Says:

    Zooey has eaten your lunch, I have eaten your lunch, True has eaten your lunch, I am certain Jay and Zep and Bartlebee have done the same. You are an extreme lightweight.


  109. thoughtcriminal Says:

    JPark, I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.


  110. JPark Says:

    And Barfly has certainly given you the business as well.


  111. Barfly Says:

    I’ve never been credibly rebutted on TP. Only shouted down.

    Comment by r

    Examples?


  112. michael Says:

    "there she sits unafraid and unflustered of the little self elected wizard of Oz blowing thats trying to blow smoke outta some stage set.

    Comment by Zep Tepi — August 13, 2007"

    Really? Where is she? The moment I show up she heads for her bedroom!


  113. michael Says:

    Time for din din.


  114. VerbalKint Says:

    Karl should stop worrying so much about the Democrats putting a harpoon in his fat ass, and start worrying about all the Republicans that will want to do it when they finally realize how much damage to the party he has caused.


  115. JPark Says:

    thought, sometimes I feel like it. I respect that you don't but late at night I don't feel I am really harming anybody. And it is fun.


  116. Barfly Says:

    Thanks JPark. Mike's a joke...


  117. Zep Tepi Says:

    Really? Where is she? The moment I show up she heads for her bedroom! Comment by michael

    You mean you don't know? Why not? You got a crystal ball?


  118. Barfly Says:

    "Time for din din."

    Comment by michael — August 13, 2007 @ 10:59 pm

    At 11 o'clock?

    Diving dumpsters?


  119. JPark Says:

    r, honestly, you haven't tried as far as I can tell. I haven't seen an honest attempt at debate from you tonight (and I haven't seen you otherwise). You would get my respect if you didn't come in here and spew Rove's talking points and Bush's bullsh!t. You haven't so far.


  120. Zep Tepi Says:

    Comment by michael — August 13, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
    Time for din din.

    As usual. Go little lemming, Daddy has got your bib and high chair ready.


  121. r Says:

    Ok, r. Fair point. Mikey was seriously stalking her. Every post he had s question about. A stupid question but still…if Zooey posted, no matter how innocuous he was there with his erection. Zooey says he isn’t you so I won’t treat you like Mikey until you deserve it.

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007 @ 10:31 pm

    I feel all warm and cozy. I still might not like you're politics, but JPark won't treat me like Mikey. We've found common ground.


  122. JPark Says:

    "Really? Where is she? The moment I show up she heads for her bedroom!"

    Fruedian? Pervert.


  123. JPark Says:

    "I feel all warm and cozy. I still might not like you’re politics, but JPark won’t treat me like Mikey. We’ve found common ground."

    Gee, I just FEEL the sarcasm emanating from that post.


  124. Barfly Says:

    Comment by r

    Still waiting...


  125. Jim Wolf359 Says:

    Yeah, Mikey reminds me of two Radio Clowns here in Denver. Peter Boyles, "Buzz" Patterson, and Don Caplis (three actually, but who's counting?).
    They do the same thing Michael does. Throw out a bald headed lie as "Fact", then when called on it lie through their teeth. Nothing different.


  126. thoughtcriminal Says:

    JPark, fair enough, they ARE idiots after all! HAHA!!

    Debate with them is futile, their sole reason for being here is to disrupt real conversation. I'm here to have a real discussion about things that I care deeply about. Every time we engage these dolts we encourage them further.

    "No one can persuade another to change. Each of us guards a gate of change that can only be opened from the inside. We cannot open the gate of another, either by argument or emotional appeal."


  127. JPark Says:

    thought, at 10pm my time the conversation is already over. If I work them for a couple of hours they are tired in the morning. :)


  128. Barfly Says:

    "Every time we engage these dolts we encourage them further."

    Not exactly.

    If you'll notice, "r" floated a shaky assertion, and when I called him/her on it, suddenly "r" wasn't so talkative.

    In fact, I'm still waiting for R to back up the assertion, and if r responds, it will be to a fully-prepared rebuttal.


  129. JPark Says:

    Barfly, I don't think r is fully committed to the neocon agenda. Be gentle :)


  130. r Says:

    r, you said a couple of things that lead me to believe r is not your first alias. One, you said you have taken Mikey to task. I haven’t seen that from r. Two, you said you haven’t seen Walt post recently. r is very recent.

    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007 @ 10:42 pm

    I don't follow all the threads. Sorry. I only like to post where there are kooks, or troothers or something. When I stumble accross a "progressive" saying:

    "That #2 is some kind of homo.
    Comment by Tom3 — August 13, 2007 @ 6:14 pm"

    I like to point that out.

    You think it's good for the other sides warts to be exposed. Don't be hypocritical.


  131. Jim Wolf359 Says:

    Oh C'mon JPark! And spoil his fun? LOL


  132. Barfly Says:

    You think it’s good for the other sides warts to be exposed. Don’t be hypocritical.

    Comment by r

    Still waiting...

    Or you could retract the assertion.


  133. JPark Says:

    r, I already responded to this by saying his comment was a total jack-a$$ comment. And you said ok. Now you bring it up again? What is the deal?


  134. JPark Says:

    I know you LIKE to point it out but it only proves you are pushing an agenda rather than actually wanting to talk.


  135. Barfly Says:

    Well, I think I'll take off before Michael returns from Chez Dumpsteur...

    G'night Jpark, and all non-trolls.


  136. Zep Tepi Says:

    "Look a kook!", said the kook.

    "Oh crap, here comes another Kook", said the other kook.


  137. JPark Says:

    Night, Fly.


  138. Zep Tepi Says:

    G’night Jpark, and all non-trolls.

    Comment by Barfly

    Adios Barfly!


  139. The Oracle Says:

    So, would Karl Rove be Moby Dick to Jeff Gannon's...what...mouth?

    Well, this is my theory why Rove is quitting on August 31st.

    No, no, not to spend more time with his family, but to spend more time with Jeff Gannon/Jim Guckert, the male prostitute white house correspondent, who visited "someone" in the white house several hundred times, who was trying to get "in-depth" news from people in the white house, while working deep, deep, deep undercover, on deep background, kind of a second Deep Throat.


  140. Zep Tepi Says:

    I think the internet is a truly wonderful creation. The kooks can find other kooks to argue without beating each other senseless as they would have done in the wilderness -Mark Twang


  141. Keith Says:

    Good short essay on Rove today by Matthew Rothschild:

    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/08/13/3148

    He left out calling Ann Richards a lesbian and saying John McCain fathered a black child.


  142. r Says:

    I realize I'm an hour late on these responses, but I’ve never been credibly rebutted on TP. Only shouted down.

    Comment by r

    Examples?

    Comment by Barfly — August 13, 2007 @ 10:59 pm

    Good call.
    That might have been bombast, if you can believe it. But I might follow you tomorrow with the examples you request.

    G'night.


  143. JPark Says:

    Hehe, r. Good luck with that.


  144. Wayne Says:

    I think the internet is a truly wonderful creation. The kooks can find other kooks to argue without beating each other senseless as they would have done in the wilderness -Mark Twang

    Comment by Zep Tepi

    Very good =D
    And sadly, so true.....


  145. greenie Says:

    Karl honey...............you got that wrong...........you are Moby's dick


  146. r Says:

    Zooey has eaten your lunch, I have eaten your lunch, True has eaten your lunch, I am certain Jay and Zep and Bartlebee have done the same. You are an extreme lightweight.
    Comment by JPark — August 13, 2007 @ 10:58 pm

    Certainly I don’t want to get in the gnashing cross hairs of all of you, but what post were you even referring to? Your point loses a lot of impact if you’ve eaten all the lunches from no one.


  147. muzz Says:

    well - he got the "Dick" part right anyway


  148. ptf Says:

    More like Fudgie the Whale. (Sorry, Jim Carvel, but if the shoe fits...)


  149. ronjazz Says:

    I’ve never been credibly rebutted on TP. Only shouted down.

    Comment by r — August 13, 2007 @ 10:57 pm

    You lie like a rug. you've never told the truth here once. Defeating your puerile lies is not shouting you down.


  150. Zep Tepi Says:

    Jpark was referring to michael, r. Although I really don't much care for Chez Dumpster =)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Very good =D
    And sadly, so true…..
    Comment by Wayne

    Thnx Wayne. Quite a leap from the telescreen in 1984 eh?


  151. Zep Tepi Says:

    George: Aye Thar He blows, Mocha Dick!!

    Jeff: Kap'n thats me job!


  152. Keith Says:

    For what it's worth, Thom Hartmann on Air America said that Rove's leaving was due to Cheney being mad at him for lying in a way that left Scooter to be the fall guy in the Plame investigation.

    [that might not be Hartmann's own assumption, but quoting someone else]

    His leaving could be due to all the subpoenas coming his way.


  153. Probus Says:

    It would be good to know why Rove actually resigned. Did he want to leave or did Bush fire him? Bush should have fired him when it became clear that he outed the covert status of Valerie Plame to get back at her husband a vocal war critic.


  154. Keith Says:

    Probus,
    Upcoming legal problems is usually the reason Republicans suddenly have the urge to "spend more time with their family".

    I didn't even know this guy had a family.


  155. Keith Says:

    Wilson had to be discredited and retaliated against for telling the truth about the major lie: "Saddam tried to aquire uranium from Africa".


  156. ronjazz Says:

    Moby to Rove: "I'm Moby, dick!".


  157. Keith Says:

    Did you know that Moby is a descendent of Herman Melville's family and his middle name is Melville?


  158. Zep Tepi Says:

    Rove to Moby: Im Dicked Moby!

    Now move your ass over Im jumping ship!


  159. Zooey Says:

    Did you guys scare off the trolls? :-D


  160. Zep Tepi Says:

    Did you know that Moby is a descendent of Herman Melville’s family and his middle name is Melville?

    Comment by Keith

    Dint know that. I read that the whale was also called Mocha Dick after Mocha island.


  161. Keith Says:

    Zooey, you're back!!!

    Heard all kind of rumours about your disappearance.


  162. Keith Says:

    the whale was also called Mocha Dick after Mocha island.

    You lost me there.


  163. Zep Tepi Says:

    Did you guys scare off the trolls? :-D

    Comment by Zooey

    Heh. Nought Aye.


  164. Keith Says:

    Don't see all the worst trolls today. Wonder if it was due to all the e-mails I sent TP?


  165. Zooey Says:

    Heard all kind of rumours about your disappearance.
    Comment by Keith — August 14, 2007 @ 12:18 am

    I be back -- on a limited basis.Won't be around much the next two days.

    Are you Keith G?


  166. Zep Tepi Says:

    The other event was the alleged killing in the 1830s of the albino sperm whale Mocha Dick, a name derived from his home in the waters off the Chilean island of Mocha

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moby_Dick

    Historical background section


  167. Keith Says:

    Are you Keith G?

    Comment by Zooey

    Yeah, that's right. Had a lot of trouble posting one night. Changed names and then I could post.


  168. Zep Tepi Says:

    I be back — on a limited basis.Won’t be around much the next two days.

    Por Que senorita Zoo?


  169. Zooey Says:

    Keith,

    Cool. :)


  170. chingebush Says:

    I would sell cookies to raise money for someone to sink a harpoon in that pus-gut's ass.


  171. Zooey Says:

    Por Que senorita Zoo?
    Comment by Zep Tepi — August 14, 2007 @ 12:26 am

    Tomorrow I'm traveling back home, and the next day I'm taking my dad's truck back to him. Lots o' drivin' :)


  172. Zooey Says:

    I would sell cookies to raise money for someone to sink a harpoon in that pus-gut’s ass.
    Comment by chingebush — August 14, 2007 @ 12:27 am

    Yum. What kind of cookies? :-D


  173. Zep Tepi Says:

    Tomorrow I’m traveling back home -Comment by Zooey

    Aye Sea! You take care now, ya hear?


  174. Keith Says:

    I think that because of TP's filter, if you say

    "Mr. P*esid*** said Isla***ascist"

    then you are nullified because those words are banned. That's the best I can figure, anyway.


  175. Zooey Says:

    I promise I will, Zep. :)

    I get to listen to Air America the whole way on my dad's XM radio. He'd disapprove, of course. Heh.


  176. tony Says:

    I feel sorry for you libs, you claim to be the most accepting party of different groups, however you are all so mean and nasty. You think the goverment can do everything better than free markets , lawsuits are the only hope for you to make any money, believe that killing unborn fetuses is ok yet drilling for oil in the fr0zen tundra is abhoric. taxing people at 50% is what your leaders say is fair (tom daschle). blah blah blah, i could go on and on, but why. I dont know how many of you were here when Carter was pres, but high taxes and mass unemployment were common which is what is coming if hillery gets in office.


  177. Keith Says:

    178

    What the %$#* was that?


  178. Zooey Says:

    Comment by Keith — August 14, 2007 @ 12:31 am

    That's been happening A LOT. If I even attempt to respond to one certain commenter (can't write his name), I'm nulled out and gone.

    Which is weird, because he's not a troll!


  179. Zooey Says:

    Comment by tony — August 14, 2007 @ 12:32 am

    Another one.....need a tissue?


  180. Keith Says:

    Tony,

    Check your almanac, job growth rate improved going from Ford to Carter and worsened going from Carter to Reagan. It's been like that for 87 years--as long as records have been kept. Unemployment greatly increased going from Carter to Reagan. Budget absolutely exploded going from Carter to Reagan. Slight improvement Carter versus Ford.


  181. chingebush Says:

    Zooey,

    Any kind you would like. Except the kind Gonzo puts on your computer to monitor your "international" conversations.

    How about Ranger cookies?


  182. joe cantweill Says:

    yeah, i feel sorry for you libs too!

    ha, ha, ha!


  183. Keith Says:

    Bill Clinton's presidency was greatest sustained economic expansion in history. 22 million jobs created. Stock market up 350%. Zero troops killed.
    Went from record budget deficits to record surpluses. Went from 8% unemployment to 3.9%

    Last six years, median wages down when adjusted for inflation. Only 5 million low wage jobs created.


  184. chingebush Says:

    Why feel sorry for us libs? We love life, love each other, give every person the freedom to be who they want to be and don't need to suck up to some authority figure to be somebody.

    Try it Tony, drop the hate little buddy.


  185. Zooey Says:

    How about Ranger cookies?
    Comment by chingebush — August 14, 2007 @ 12:41 am

    Anything without coconut is a go. :)


  186. Keith Says:

    They hate us for our freedom


  187. Mikey Says:

    Here's a theory I heard today: Rove resigned because something big is coming - criminal charge wise. If he stays he can be impeached and Bush can't pardon that. BUT, if he leaves, he can't be impeached, but he can be brought up on criminal charges and be convicted. And Bush CAN pardon him for that. Like he did for his little buddy Scooter. What do you think?


  188. Zooey Says:

    They hate us for our freedom
    Comment by Keith — August 14, 2007 @ 12:45 am

    Nuh uh! They hate us because we're beautiful!


  189. Zep Tepi Says:

    I feel sorry for you libs, you claim to be the most accepting party of different groups, however you are all so mean and nasty. You think the goverment can do everything better than free markets , lawsuits are the only hope for you to make any money, believe that killing unborn fetuses is ok yet drilling for oil in the fr0zen tundra is abhoric. -Tony.

    Well I guessed you missed, somehow, all the hateful remarks made by so called Republicans here.

    A: I have not been mean and nasty. I think Karl was being humorous when he used the Moby Dick remark and so its become wordplay.
    B: I believe in God and am secular.
    C:Have never aborted any fetus.
    D: I don't think the government can do everything better than business. I think that business has assumed too much control of Government [Corporate Welfare]
    E:The free market isn't very free when the FED takes your tax dollars to keep the market afloat. [Sub-prime mess]
    F:I have never sued anyone for anything.
    G: Any more pundit talking points you wish to project?


  190. Zooey Says:

    Comment by Mikey — August 14, 2007 @ 12:47 am

    I'm not sure a presidential aide is impeachable. Are you sure about that?


  191. chingebush Says:

    I would love to sell brownies at a RNC convention. Can you see all those buzz haircuts with a buzz?

    Jeffy Lube would be reeeally busy.


  192. ronjazz Says:

    Nuh uh! They hate us because we’re beautiful!

    Comment by Zooey — August 14, 2007 @ 12:48 am

    Maybe you; I rarely get that reaction.


  193. Keith Says:

    Nuh uh! They hate us because we’re beautiful!

    Comment by Zooey

    Speak for yourself!


  194. dbadass Says:

    What's a ranger cookie?


  195. Keith Says:

    A texas baseball player, cupcake.


  196. ronjazz Says:

    What’s a ranger cookie?

    Comment by dbadass — August 14, 2007 @ 12:51 am

    a ranger collects big bux for bush, and dont call me cookie.


  197. Keith Says:

    couldn't resist


  198. Keith Says:

    ronjazz,

    what's that about great minds and thinking alike?


  199. sam Says:

    The reason why Rove resign. Can you say Wen Ho Lee?

    By Carol D. Leonnig
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Tuesday, August 14, 2007; Page A02

    Five reporters must reveal their government sources for stories they wrote about Steven J. Hatfill and investigators' suspicions that the former Army scientist was behind the deadly anthrax attacks of 2001, a federal judge ruled yesterday.


  200. ronjazz Says:

    what’s that about great minds and thinking alike?

    Comment by Keith — August 14, 2007 @ 12:54 am

    nothing we're proving, I'd have to say. cue the homophobic trolls, though.


  201. chingebush Says:

    dbadass,

    No intuendos, no play on words. They are just good little crunchy cookies with nuts and corn flakes.

    If we can get 20 libs to sell two dozen apiece, I know a guy who will sink a harpoon in Moby Dick's ass.

    And if we can't, I will tap the 401k and have it done myself. Just thought y'all would want to help.


  202. Zooey Says:

    Maybe you; I rarely get that reaction.
    Comment by ronjazz — August 14, 2007 @ 12:51 am

    I don't get it either. I just thought it was funny. :}



  203. ronjazz Says:

    Five reporters must reveal their government sources for stories they wrote about Steven J. Hatfill and investigators’ suspicions that the former Army scientist was behind the deadly anthrax attacks of 2001, a federal judge ruled yesterday.

    Comment by sam — August 14, 2007 @ 12:55 am

    ooh, this is juicy. i've been wondering about this a lot lately.


  204. Keith Says:

    Wasn't one anthrax death at the Florida tabloid that had recently done a story trashing the Bush twins?


  205. Zooey Says:

    Just thought y’all would want to help.
    Comment by chingebush — August 14, 2007 @ 12:55 am

    I'll sell two dozen! Heh.


  206. dbadass Says:

    Comment by chingebush — August 14, 2007 @ 12:55 am

    Thanks. I'm a foodie but never heard of these. May I suggest the modern harpoon with explosive charge. If that's a problem I have a few swordfish harpoon tips laying around here somewhere


  207. Zooey Says:

    Wasn’t one anthrax death at the Florida tabloid that had recently done a story trashing the Bush twins?
    Comment by Keith — August 14, 2007 @ 12:59 am

    Wouldn't tabloid repoters be dropping on a more regular basis, if that were the reason?


  208. sam Says:

    Who do you think was hyping the small pox and bird flu scare? Yep.


  209. Keith Says:

    Zooey,
    I didn't say direct cause and effect, but wasn't it true---just for conspiracy's sake?


  210. ronjazz Says:

    B: I believe in God and am secular.

    See, now, this is key. Religion is a personal situation, and our Constitution is written to protect the religious from the state, and the state from the religious. Zep has written a very wise and important 8-word sentence. This is a true enlightened liberal. I am sure that Zep has no problem with my atheism, as long as it isn't made policy, and I feel that way about his beliefs. This is the way America works best.


  211. Keith Says:

    There has to be SOME reason anthrax was sent to that tabloid. And Daschle. And Leahy.

    Tony has a strange hatred for Daschle.


  212. chingebush Says:

    Thanks dbadass,

    I was thinking of a shark dart. It's a big hypodermic syringe with a huge C02 cartridge that screws on the end of the spear gun shaft. For when KKKarl accepts his medal of honor.

    Zooey,

    Bless your heart, I have you down for two dozen.

    Poor girl scouts, they never saw this coming.


  213. ronjazz Says:

    The anthrax attacks were the purest form of direct terrorism, like the Russian plutonium poisoner. If the anthrax attacks have any connection with the Bush cabal, they must be tried and imprisoned, or even executed, as an object lesson. And there is no reason to think that it was anything but a Cheney operation, considering all of the fact and targets.


  214. chingebush Says:

    Night all, I had better get to baking. My country needs me.


  215. Zooey Says:

    Zooey,
    I didn’t say direct cause and effect, but wasn’t it true—just for conspiracy’s sake?
    Comment by Keith — August 14, 2007 @ 1:03 am

    Oh.... Wll, in that case -- absolutely! :)


  216. Zooey Says:

    Poor girl scouts, they never saw this coming.
    Comment by chingebush — August 14, 2007 @ 1:05 am

    You got that right. :-D

    Bake away!


  217. Buck Fush Says:

    Who's this new Michael, he is a total idiot, not like the "flog himself in the closet full of gay porn" Michael we have grown to laugh at.


  218. Zooey Says:

    Comment by Buck Fush — August 14, 2007 @ 1:13 am

    That's "nighttime michael." Oy...

    "Daytime michael" has a brain and uses it.


  219. dbadass Says:

    Bake away!

    Comment by Zooey — August 14, 2007 @ 1:12 am

    Indeed


  220. Zooey Says:

    Indeed
    Comment by dbadass — August 14, 2007 @ 1:14 am

    How's it going, Mr dbadass?


  221. dbadass Says:

    Moderately neato. Glad to see you back.


  222. Buck Fush Says:

    Ah, thanks Zooey, was wondering, it was not like his usual intelligent but laughable stuff....this night time one is....well, very lame.
    Just catching up on some reading before bed, have been staying away because of the trolls just spamming the site so bad.


  223. Zooey Says:

    Good to be back, dbadass & Buck Fush.

    I've got a beer in me - time to play Scrabble.

    Watch out world, that's fair warning. :-D

    Goodnight, guys.


  224. Zep Tepi Says:

    Okay, third and last try.

    I don't have a problem with atheism ronjazz. The filter fairy wont let me go into details as to why.


  225. Zep Tepi Says:

    GN ZOO, been trying to post last ten minutes. Heh.


  226. Zep Tepi Says:

    PATRIOT WILLIAM KRISTOL MADE JON STEWERT LOOK LIKE A FOOL.
    DID YOU SEE? Comment by i

    No. I dont watch TV. I also dont listen to Bill Kristol.


  227. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Is Rove trying to say he is the target of an unhealthy obsession?

    Or that he is an evil being? Or good? Or a victim?

    Or that he is an out-of-control, big fat clump of blubber?

    All of the above?

    Or maybe he is really saying he hasn't read the book but he likes to sound oh so well-read....


  228. laura Says:

    Think you all missed it - Rove is steeling himself against what's coming his way. Something's cookin'


  229. Shirley Says:

    DOES BUSH STILL EVER REFER TO ROVE AS "Turd Blossom"?


  230. JPV Says:

    T E S T


  231. JPV Says:

    Siegelman's railroading draws national attention

    Pat I

    Sunday, Jul 01, 2007

    By William Perkins

    In a June 10 column, I questioned the integrity of the trial and conviction of former Gov. Don Siegelman and former HealthSouth CEO Richard Scrushy, who were found guilty on corruption charges in a federal case that reeks of partisan political assassination.


  232. JPV Says:

    Why is it impossible to post anything here today?


  233. pitythepoortrolls Says:

    What'cha on about, "i"? And what happened to "Mr. P"? Stewart pwned Kristol. And, by extension, yourself.

    Move along, now. Nothing here for you.


  234. JPV Says:

    I'm trying to post some info, on Roves association with the Don Siegelman case, but the site won't let me do it.

    What gives?


  235. Trumbo Says:

    ===================

    I've read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moby_Dick just now and and thinking that perchance he thinks of himself not as the whale, but as the book. If that is so, his identification would be that of Ishmael who's the only survivor of Ahab's failed expedition.

    Ahab then becomes neo-conservatism and the 'Spirit of America' the whale. Our Decider then is shown to be Queequeg, the son of the chief of his tribe. He was a cannibal of course.

    To my mind, all the Rove news of the day pales when seen in the light of this one seemingly authentic statement.

    I have not thought of Moby Dick in decades but to see the so called 'Epitome of American Romanticism' invoked by a shade at the end of empire has been startling. We'll see if he manages to get away/pardoned in his coffin.

    ===================


  236. JPV Says:

    Well, anyway... this whole Rove shake-up is very likely about the Don Siegelman case, which is starting to heat up right now.

    An Alabama attorney by the name of Dana Jill Simpson (a long time Republican BTW), blew the whistle on Rove being the one behind Siegelman unjust prosecution using crony attorneys.

    Simpson's house mysteriously burned down, and here car was run off the road, after she snitched on Rove.



  237. Breaded---Moon Hath Waxed Magnifique Says:

    Already been proven false.

    She left a propane heater on in her house which ended up burning the house down, and she herself admits she may have fallen asleep at the wheel the night of her car accident.

    Go back to Dipshat High and get your facts straight you conspiracist 'bat.


  238. Breaded---Moon Hath Waxed Magnifique Says:

    What gives?

    Youre stupid and the site doesnt like you. Go fig.


  239. ronjazz Says:

    Jon Stewart exposed Kristol's lies and outright lunacy last night. Kristol is done.


  240. Pretty Pretty Bird Says:

    Get back under your sink and STFU, rondork, no one wants to listen to you anymore.


  241. Tom3 Says:

    Billy Krystol is another Repuke closet case, a prety-boy who spews talking points because he is brain dead.


  242. Tom3 Says:

    PrettyPrettyBoy, YOU can shut the fµck up. Go get a room with your log cabin pals. You Repukes are all a$sholes and traitors.


  243. Pretty Pretty Bird Says:

    PrettyPrettyBoy, YOU can shut the fµck up. Go get a room with your log cabin pals. You Repukes are all a$sholes and traitors.

    Why so nasty today, ya prostitute? Im just trying to point out that liberals are fools and pedophiles who spend most of their time lurking around elementary schools.

    Now, put your pants back on, kick your mom out of your room and get back under the sink! Ya buckethead.


  244. Bruce Gorton Says:

    Pretty Pretty Bird

    Projecting much Foley bird?


  245. ronjazz Says:

    Pretty pretty birdbrain, your projector is acting up again. Republicans are the perverts, by teh dozen. Rightards like you keep the kiddie porn biz alive. Your perversions then spill over into treason, because you have no morals and no character. it's obvious, plain and proven. You have no worth in the USA, except as a tool of the Deserter-In-Chief, a coward like yourself, and a moron who has lost all 3 wars he's attempted with the blood of patriots. Your hatred and envy of real americans is the fuel for your pathetic whimperings from the sidelines. Go run off and run away, like Bush and Rove, or show us your bravery by enlisting.

    As if, you pansy-ass sissy. You're stinking up this site with 8your turd-breath. Get lost.


  246. ronjazz Says:

    How pathitically weak is the right when a comedian like Stewart can destroy their arguments and make them look patently ridiculous in a 5-minute segment on his show? His destruction of Kristol took about 30 seconds before Kristol started stuttering, fuming, admitting how wrong he had been, how incompetent Bush and Rumsfeld were, how terrible mistakes had been made, but still, in his pathological desire to kill as many people as possible, lied through his fake teeth that "progress is being made". What a jerkoff and traitor. A noose around his neck would make more sense than anything he has ever said in his miserble waste of a life.


  247. Pete Bogs Says:

    nah, just dick...


  248. Tobey Tall Says:

    please please please no more rove


  249. toasterhead Says:

    Hey has someone made a joke about Karl Rove being the White Whale yet? Cause that'd be really surprising if someone didn't do that already.


  250. JT Says:

    Huge, white and blubbery?

    Or more like an dangerous, amoral beast, a true Leviathan of apostasy, with no thought in its head but a cunning, ruthless hatred?

    That Moby Dick?

    (oh, and Zep Tepi is a whiny little wimp)


  251. tony Says:

    Bill Clinton’s presidency was greatest sustained economic expansion in history. 22 million jobs created. Stock market up 350%. Zero troops killed.
    Went from record budget deficits to record surpluses. Went from 8% unemployment to 3.9%

    Last six years, median wages down when adjusted for inflation. Only 5 million low wage jobs created.

    UMM DURING THE CLINTON ADM there were troops killed by terrorists, there were terrorist bombs that killed many americans, the internet and startup internet companys drove the economic expansion, (republicans were in charge of congress)when people realized all these internet stock were way overpriced, they fell like a rock, the same situation has happened with the overpriced real estate market- some people made a lot of money, some lost a lot. If you really believe that high taxes on people produce economic expansion, then go ahead and vote for the leftist choice, but what ever happened to the fact that we live in a free country and choose to make our own choices when it comes to healthcare, schools, the right to speak freely (unlike political correctness). I can list all kinds of government run organizations that are wrought with mismanagement and waste. (ever try to ship something by fedex vs the usps- fedex beats them every time) blah blah blah


  252. Bruce Gorton Says:

    tony

    While leftwingers believe in paying their way (IE: Paying taxes for government provided services) you just want a free lunch.

    As to government waste? Is this like the huge sums spent by major oil companies, fast food companies, gambling companies etc... on lobyists? Or how about the vast sums spent on advertising? Or how about the good old Enron example of corporate governance?


  253. JSIB Says:

    Actually Karl, your not "Moby Dick", your just a dick. Buh-bye a-hole.


  254. TomIII Says:

    These Repuke trolls are dumber than the old ones.

    And they've learned to talk trash. Must be going to troll night school after their mcjobs.



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