Comments on: Gen. Casey: ‘Iraq Will Be A Remarkable Country In A Decade’ If We Stick With Occupation http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:04:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: dano http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4019196 dano Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:23:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4019196 Heck Iraq could be the next vacation hotspot! .... well in ten years anyways.. Heck Iraq could be the next vacation hotspot! …. well in ten years anyways..

]]> By: Pete http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4015261 Pete Thu, 16 Aug 2007 05:13:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4015261 Heck, it could be another Chile in a couple of years! Heck, it could be another Chile in a couple of years!

]]> By: ageunspecified http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4012488 ageunspecified Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:35:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4012488 Ten years? Gee, just in time for a Republican president to declare Victory! But I'm sure that is just a coincidence... <em>What strikes me as idiotic is; no one is apparently exploring the option of engaging the “world community”</em> We did. They came, they saw we didn't know what the hell we were doing, they started to leave. It will have to be the UN and they're a bit stretched right now because some military genius decided to remove soldiers from Afghanistan and whined at the UN to help out. I think that's what you'll see at some point (before 10 years I hope), the UN will go into Iraq, they'll be greeted as liberators, get flowers & candies etc, the country will start to settle down. The war profiteers will already have their cash, the soldiers will have ... their memories? Hopefully all of their limbs? We'll have a parade in DC and then we will be expected to forget who did what when and why. And some whore will write a biography of GWB that claims he vanquished Saddam Hussein in a duel and single-handedly re-built Iraq. Ten years? Gee, just in time for a Republican president to declare Victory!

But I’m sure that is just a coincidence…

What strikes me as idiotic is; no one is apparently exploring the option of engaging the “world community”

We did. They came, they saw we didn’t know what the hell we were doing, they started to leave. It will have to be the UN and they’re a bit stretched right now because some military genius decided to remove soldiers from Afghanistan and whined at the UN to help out.

I think that’s what you’ll see at some point (before 10 years I hope), the UN will go into Iraq, they’ll be greeted as liberators, get flowers & candies etc, the country will start to settle down. The war profiteers will already have their cash, the soldiers will have … their memories? Hopefully all of their limbs? We’ll have a parade in DC and then we will be expected to forget who did what when and why.

And some whore will write a biography of GWB that claims he vanquished Saddam Hussein in a duel and single-handedly re-built Iraq.

]]> By: Martin Gifford http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4012468 Martin Gifford Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:19:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4012468 From "Mission Accomplished" to now = 4 years i.e. a factor of 4. It is now claimed "Remarkable Country" will take 10 years. Doing the math, we would still be blogging about this war in... 10 x 4 = 40 years from now. From “Mission Accomplished” to now = 4 years i.e. a factor of 4.

It is now claimed “Remarkable Country” will take 10 years.

Doing the math, we would still be blogging about this war in…

10 x 4 = 40 years from now.

]]> By: Jericho http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4012467 Jericho Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:58:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4012467 If it's imminently doable in a decade or so, after 4 years of war or so, 5 years of lies or so, 2 trillion dollars of US treasury or so, 3666 Americans dead or so and 600 000 Iraqis dead or so, I don't think I have what it takes to "stick with it" to make Iraq a "remarkable country", General Stupid, Sir. If it’s imminently doable in a decade or so, after 4 years of war or so, 5 years of lies or so, 2 trillion dollars of US treasury or so, 3666 Americans dead or so and 600 000 Iraqis dead or so, I don’t think I have what it takes to “stick with it” to make Iraq a “remarkable country”, General Stupid, Sir.

]]> By: jill http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4012463 jill Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:39:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4012463 <strong>3,699</strong> 3,699

]]> By: tony http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4012045 tony Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:33:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4012045 Hey, someone tell me why we should have troops in S Korea? We can protect any country via air support-- look at the highway of death during the 1st gulf war. S Korea has industrialized and had over 50 yrs and can protect themselves. If you are going to use the argument that we should leave Iraq, Then it should also apply to other areas of the world. Hey, someone tell me why we should have troops in S Korea? We can protect any country via air support– look at the highway of death during the 1st gulf war. S Korea has industrialized and had over 50 yrs and can protect themselves. If you are going to use the argument that we should leave Iraq, Then it should also apply to other areas of the world.

]]> By: George http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4012014 George Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:22:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4012014 The sun'll come out Tomorrow Bet your bottom dollar That tomorrow There'll be sun! Just thinkin' about Tomorrow Clears away the cobwebs, And the sorrow 'Til there's none! When I'm stuck a day That's gray, And lonely, I just stick out my chin And Grin, And Say, Oh The sun'll come out Tomorrow So ya gotta hang on 'Til tomorrow Come what may Tomorrow! Tomorrow! I love ya Tomorrow! You're always A day A way! http://www.jansjoyousjungle.com/sunout.html The sun’ll come out
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]]> By: The Oracle http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4011835 The Oracle Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:49:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4011835 In listening to the Bush administration's Iraq War propagandists, I cannot help but think that the Kremlin, Soviet generals and Pravda/Tass probably used the same words back in the 1980s to rationalize why Soviet forces should remain in Afghanistan. I know I'm right. If somone went back to quotes coming out of the Kremlin and Soviet military in the 1980s while the Soviet Union was bogged down in Afghanistan, I just bet that many things said back then by the Soviets would match almost verbatim what the Bush administration and their "loyal Bushie" generals are saying about Iraq. War hawks always follow the same script, you see...no matter what nation, no matter what period of time, no matter what war is being waged or contemplated. And just as the Soviet Union was severely strained by it's occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s, which ultimately led to it's collapse, the Bush administration has done equal damage to our democracy through it's war hawk driven invasion and occupation of Iraq. Hopefully, though, our great democratic nation will survive this neo-con Republican almost-Communistic assault on our nation's resources and freedoms in pursuit of their mad war hawk delusiions. I have faith that our nation has the strength to overcome the utter stupidity of the Bush administration...in time. In listening to the Bush administration’s Iraq War propagandists, I cannot help but think that the Kremlin, Soviet generals and Pravda/Tass probably used the same words back in the 1980s to rationalize why Soviet forces should remain in Afghanistan.

I know I’m right.

If somone went back to quotes coming out of the Kremlin and Soviet military in the 1980s while the Soviet Union was bogged down in Afghanistan, I just bet that many things said back then by the Soviets would match almost verbatim what the Bush administration and their “loyal Bushie” generals are saying about Iraq.

War hawks always follow the same script, you see…no matter what nation, no matter what period of time, no matter what war is being waged or contemplated.

And just as the Soviet Union was severely strained by it’s occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s, which ultimately led to it’s collapse, the Bush administration has done equal damage to our democracy through it’s war hawk driven invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Hopefully, though, our great democratic nation will survive this neo-con Republican almost-Communistic assault on our nation’s resources and freedoms in pursuit of their mad war hawk delusiions. I have faith that our nation has the strength to overcome the utter stupidity of the Bush administration…in time.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4011827 Gregor Samsa Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:45:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4011827 <i>"Iraq Will Be A Remarkable Country In A Decade"</i> This statement is the extended version of a Friedman Unit. 1 Friedman Unit = 6 months. 1 Casey Unit = 10 years. Friedman's prediction powers have been proven wrong time and again. I see no reason to give Gen. Casey the benefit of the doubt. Just like in Vietnam, the longer the US military presence remains in Iraq, the higher the number of casualties will be, with the locals doing most of the dying. “Iraq Will Be A Remarkable Country In A Decade”

This statement is the extended version of a Friedman Unit.

1 Friedman Unit = 6 months.
1 Casey Unit = 10 years.

Friedman’s prediction powers have been proven wrong time and again. I see no reason to give Gen. Casey the benefit of the doubt.

Just like in Vietnam, the longer the US military presence remains in Iraq, the higher the number of casualties will be, with the locals doing most of the dying.

]]> By: celtic cynic http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4011606 celtic cynic Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:14:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4011606 So, did the reporter challenge his assertions???????????????? So, are we to accept them as fact, or reasonable????????????????????? So, what is the responsibility of the press other than to report favorably what their handlers decree?????????????????? So, did the reporter challenge his assertions????????????????
So, are we to accept them as fact, or reasonable?????????????????????
So, what is the responsibility of the press other than to report favorably what their handlers decree??????????????????

]]> By: paul http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4011456 paul Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:16:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4011456 This country is 36th in quality of health care and 41st in longevity. As bad as it is, are you planning to move somewhere better? This country is 36th in quality of health care and 41st in longevity.

As bad as it is, are you planning to move somewhere better?

]]> By: timeisart http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4011447 timeisart Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:11:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4011447 Iraq will be remarkable, but America will be third world at best. This country is 36th in quality of health care and 41st in longevity. This is no longer a "great country." So what do we do, immigrate to Iraq so we can enjoy the country that contributed to America's downfall? More idiocy for popular consumption. Iraq will be remarkable, but America will be third world at best. This country is 36th in quality of health care and 41st in longevity. This is no longer a “great country.” So what do we do, immigrate to Iraq so we can enjoy the country that contributed to America’s downfall? More idiocy for popular consumption.

]]> By: BuckarooBanzai http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4011392 BuckarooBanzai Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:52:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4011392 Gotta love Casey reminding us that the Iraqi people lived under Saddam for 3 1/2 decades. Yeah, Casey? Who helped keep him in power? Who supported him? Who sold him WMD, that he then used on his own people? Yup, the good 'ol US of A. Wonder why they might resent us now? Here's a great photo: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/ We loved Saddam right up until he didn't want to be our boy anymore... Gotta love Casey reminding us that the Iraqi people lived under Saddam for 3 1/2 decades. Yeah, Casey? Who helped keep him in power? Who supported him? Who sold him WMD, that he then used on his own people? Yup, the good ‘ol US of A. Wonder why they might resent us now? Here’s a great photo:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

We loved Saddam right up until he didn’t want to be our boy anymore…

]]> By: BuckarooBanzai http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4011377 BuckarooBanzai Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:46:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4011377 For the 1 Trillion Dollars and 10 years(it will probably end up more like 3 Trillion+), I'd wager we would have hydrogen powered cars readily available. Does that make more sense? Oh, but the oil there is SO important. Right. An Appolo program for alternative energy development would be so much better for America and the world. But no, 10 more years in Iraq is so much more important. For the 1 Trillion Dollars and 10 years(it will probably end up more like 3 Trillion+), I’d wager we would have hydrogen powered cars readily available. Does that make more sense? Oh, but the oil there is SO important. Right. An Appolo program for alternative energy development would be so much better for America and the world. But no, 10 more years in Iraq is so much more important.

]]> By: FunnyGuy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4011351 FunnyGuy Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:40:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4011351 In Ten years?! Hey, that will only be 1.5 trillion dollars extra! Bend over tax payers! In Ten years?! Hey, that will only be 1.5 trillion dollars extra! Bend over tax payers!

]]> By: no name http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4011325 no name Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:30:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4011325 And the "front runners" for the Democrats? They want to stay in Iraq. They want all that stuff. None of them, except for Kuchinic have recommended getting out. They hem and they haw and the killing goes on. They suffer no regrets and are out to set the US on it's fascist imperialistic goals. They WANT IT. Hillary, Obama, Edwards--THEY WANT IT. Jessus, how many have to die? Jeesus, these people did not choose to be born where they were born. Jessus--they are being murdered while the building of the largest embassy in the world goes on. And we kill them without hesitancy on the COMPLICITY of the "front runners" two of whom voted for it, and the congress and all the "D" wimps who will not dare to take a stupid man , along with the votes of Democrats, who caused it all out of power. THEY MUST WANT IT. And the “front runners” for the Democrats? They want to stay in Iraq. They want all that stuff. None of them, except for Kuchinic have recommended getting out. They hem and they haw and the killing goes on. They suffer no regrets and are out to set the US on it’s fascist imperialistic goals. They WANT IT. Hillary, Obama, Edwards–THEY WANT IT.

Jessus, how many have to die? Jeesus, these people did not choose to be born where they were born. Jessus–they are being murdered while the building of the largest embassy in the world goes on.

And we kill them without hesitancy on the COMPLICITY of the “front runners” two of whom voted for it, and the congress and all the “D” wimps who will not dare to take a stupid man , along with the votes of Democrats, who caused it all out of power.

THEY MUST WANT IT.

]]> By: HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4011238 HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:11:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4011238 <em>Oh, you were dealing in nuance. How ironic. Comment by r — August 14, 2007 @ 4:53 pm</em> Ironic that you didn't get the nuance? Nope, that's not irony - that's just you being you. Hopeless and pathetic... Oh, you were dealing in nuance. How ironic.
Comment by r — August 14, 2007 @ 4:53 pm

Ironic that you didn’t get the nuance? Nope, that’s not irony – that’s just you being you. Hopeless and pathetic…

]]> By: osage http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4011200 osage Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:01:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4011200 Any country that American's invest ONE TRILLION taxpayer DOLLARS into SHOULD become a REMARKABLE COUNTRY! The states of OHIO, MICHIGAN and INDIANA represent about the same population as Iraq (approx. 27.5 million people). What would a ONE TRILLION DOLLAR investment do for the economies of those STATES? Would those three AMERICAN STATES become REMARKABLE ONES if their economies received an investment of ONE TRILLION DOLLARS? Would AMERICA and AMERICANS receive a greater return on their ONE TRILLION DOLLAR INVENSTMENT in IRAQ or in OHIO, MICHIGAN and INDIANA? Any country that American’s invest ONE TRILLION taxpayer DOLLARS into SHOULD become a REMARKABLE COUNTRY! The states of OHIO, MICHIGAN and INDIANA represent about the same population as Iraq (approx. 27.5 million people). What would a ONE TRILLION DOLLAR investment do for the economies of those STATES? Would those three AMERICAN STATES become REMARKABLE ONES if their economies received an investment of ONE TRILLION DOLLARS? Would AMERICA and AMERICANS receive a greater return on their ONE TRILLION DOLLAR INVENSTMENT in IRAQ or in OHIO, MICHIGAN and INDIANA?

]]> By: Coffins Draped with Flags http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/comment-page-4/#comment-4011198 Coffins Draped with Flags Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:01:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/14/casey-10-yr-plan/#comment-4011198 Oops... correction: <strong>Just suppose… China invades the US (because we stopped buying their tainted products) etc...</strong> Oops…
correction:
Just suppose… China invades the US (because we stopped buying their tainted products) etc…

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