Fox’s Right-Wing Alternative To Daily Show Fails
In January, Fox announced that it would begin airing the “Half Hour News Hour” on Sunday nights, the so-called “right-wing answer to ‘The Daily Show With Jon Stewart.‘” “You can turn on any show and see Bush being bashed,” said creator Joel Surnow, producer of Fox’s 24. “There really is nothing out there for those who want satire that tilts right.” As Fox has learned, that’s because no one wants to watch that kind of satire.
TVNewser reports today that the HHNH has been canceled. In a memo to senior producers today, Fox News Corp.’s senior vice president Bill Shine announced:
Joel Surnow and I have mutually decided that we will not continue the Half Hour News Hour beyond its current 15 episode run. The last show will be presented on September 16th.
Shine claimed the reason for the shelving of the show was that Fox is “considering ways to retool the show for future scheduling needs.” He held out the chance that the show would air again: “There is still a chance you will see the program at some point in the future.”
The first show guest-starred right-wing all-stars Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter as President and Vice President. Watch a clip from a preview of the first show:
The reviews for the program were consistently dismal. Its very first review, from the Orlando Sentinel, decried the “[l]aughter, of an awfully canned variety, greets all the gags. Nothing happening on screen justifies these outbursts. … If we’re lucky, we’ll never hear of this dreadful show again.” “Sometimes the humor is so heavy-handed that it seems almost like self-parody,” said the New York Times. “The 1/2 Hour News Hour is slow torture all by itself,” said the Philadelpha Inquirer.
What the right-wing failed to grasp is Jon Stewart is funny not because he spins falsehoods but because he tells the truth.
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After all of the blathering about Air America from the wingnuts - what IRONY!!!
August 14th, 2007 at 6:20 pmThey are rescheduling it back into their prime time “news” … rightwing humor… rightwing news… very little difference…BS … BS …. BS….
August 14th, 2007 at 6:21 pmHAH!!!
August 14th, 2007 at 6:21 pmMy guess is you won’t see much more of this reported on that liberal media.
the irony is rich.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:22 pmOddly enough, HBO took the “You may be offended if…” scroller and used it with Bill Maher’s comedy special (with different names, of course). I know that thing has been done way before HHNH, but to see it used for a Bill Maher comedy special was a surprise.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:22 pmThis show failed because it was unable to distinguish itself from Fox’s supposed real news programs, which have been unintentionally self-parodying for years now.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:22 pmI always thought the shows ending would be more funny.
Oh well like everything else about the show it’s ending has failed to make me laugh.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:23 pmConservatives are anti-American losers.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:24 pmOMG! I wonder how the 4 people that watched it will survive without their dose of Faux Entertainment? Oh yea, they will watch billo and hanniteehee.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:26 pmAfter all of the blathering about Air America from the wingnuts - what IRONY!!!
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 14, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
Your shirts must be very crisp. You’re just full of irony today.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:26 pmTelling lies and then making fun of the lies. Who thought that would work?
August 14th, 2007 at 6:27 pm“Your shirts must be very crisp. You’re just full of irony today.”
Comment by r
Careful r, you’re beginning to show signs of punnery and a sardonic sense of humor… these are well known to be creative liberal characteristics…
August 14th, 2007 at 6:29 pmYou ask us to watch a clip from one of the shows. No thank you. Just had lunch.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:30 pmTelling lies and then making fun of the lies. Who thought that would work?
Comment by shane
Has worked well for the rover and his minions for about 6 1/2 years. Not counting the time he did the same for Dubya to get him elected to the Texas Governorship, (maybe the least important job in the state).
August 14th, 2007 at 6:31 pm“What the right-wing failed to grasp is Jon Stewart is funny not because he spins falsehoods, but rather because he tells the truth.”
I’m genuinely not sure the hard right knows the difference between truth and falsehood. When you get to the point where the ends are more important than the means, it seems you lose touch with things like laws, ethics, Constitutions, truth, and all that useless junk. “Truthiness” was a wonderfully funny acknowledgement of that.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:31 pmCareful r, you’re beginning to show signs of punnery and a sardonic sense of humor… these are well known to be creative liberal characteristics…
Comment by Raven — August 14, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhhhh, snivel, snivel, is this all you libs do, sit around and whine like a bunch of little babies, but what do you expect look at your politicians i’d would whine too. how about this put down the bong, cut your greasy hair and get a freaking job….
better?
August 14th, 2007 at 6:32 pmNow THAT is funny…
August 14th, 2007 at 6:33 pmJust had lunch.
Comment by michael
At 3:30 in the afternoon?
August 14th, 2007 at 6:33 pmOh, wait, you mean “just had lunch” like you
“just took a drive in the Sierras……”
rush really talked this thing up on his radio program… i wonder if he’ll have a response to this sad bit o’ news.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:33 pmThe HHNH’s been cancelled? I’d never even heard of it till now.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:33 pmAnd Jon Stewart makes fun of everybody, but mostly the right wing because they are funny.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:36 pmbetter?
Comment by r
(You forgot to credit “james” for that blurb, plagiarism is an automatic disqualifier)
August 14th, 2007 at 6:37 pmCareful r, you’re beginning to show signs of punnery and a sardonic sense of humor… these are well known to be creative liberal characteristics…
Comment by Raven — August 14, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
Raven,
Notice how that scared him back into his normal repug double-digit IQ feces flinging behavior?
August 14th, 2007 at 6:37 pmI HAVE TO TELL YOU ALL ABOTUT ONE OF THE EPISODES I SAW…
Man, I was flipping channels, and past FoxNews, and there was “1/2 Hour News Hour”, which I hadn’t seen since… well, since clips were posted online. So, I wanted to see what a full show would actually look like. And this was the one and only skit I could get through… you won’t BELIEVE it….
The skit is about 3 new authors who have written books against the belief of God, much like the real-life book “The God Delusion” by Richard Dawkins, and “God Is Not Great.” There are two hosts of the show who begin interviewing the guests.
Two of the guests are via satellite, the third is in studio. The first guest via satellite begins talking about his book. When they move on to the second guest via satellite, the first one begins choking and then dies. The second guest says she knows people will think this was an act from God, but they are crazy to think so - but then this second guest dies as well.
The third guest, who is in studio is in a total panic. He doesn’t want to talk about his book. When they ask him about it, he frantically says the book is a work of fiction…. and I don’t remember the rest.
What I do remember, is how EXCITED the audience was to see the non-beleivers killed. They cheered, they clapped, and laughed.
That was the skit. There was no joke, there was no punch-line. There was no commentary. There was no one who spoke a line which sort of encapsulated everything into a smart commentary on… anything (commentary on religion, non-beleif, nothing).
No wonder this show is gone. It has no humor. The show is simply there to create an imaginary world in which conservative, racist, bigoted, sexist, religious, hateful people could love to live in.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:37 pm….and FoxNews can’t blame the bad ratings on anyone but their own conservative idiot viewers.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:38 pmJon Stewart’s show is funny because, well, because he has creative funny writers and actors. It’s funny because poking fun at the people in power is almost always good for a laugh. If it makes fun of people on the Right, it’s because (a) they’ve been in power and (b) they’ve been ridiculous in their pomposity and hypocricy.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:38 pmThe wingnuts just don’t get it. The Daily Show isn’t a lefty show. It satirizes everybody and everything worth satire. It just turns out that’s usually the right wing. Same can be said of Stephen Colbert. Same can be said of Bill Mahre.
Furthermore, anybody who watches the above shows know that it’s not all about bashing Bush. That would get boring after awhile. These guys make fun of politicos, but they also make fun of pop culture and society in general.
When you vow to only “bash” a particular group or a particular ideology, you lose the humor and it gets old fast. And it can look more mean and petty than funny, especially if your flag-bearers are Limbaugh and Coulter. For the show to be successful, you want to tweak the other side in such a way that a lefty could tune in and at least laugh at himself.
I understand Don Imus was looking for a job — why didn’t Fox snap him up?
August 14th, 2007 at 6:40 pmbetter?
Comment by r — August 14, 2007 @ 6:32 pm
More in character, you had us worried for a minute.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:40 pm#21 but mostly the right wing because they are funny.
Comment by Aimee — August 14, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
In a sad, disgusting sort of way, I guess.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:40 pmsatire that tilts right.
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There’s always South Park.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:40 pmIt isn’t really funny when your humor is based on worshipping the powerful and humiliating those who are weak, different or in minority status.
-GSD
August 14th, 2007 at 6:41 pm(You forgot to credit “james†for that blurb, plagiarism is an automatic disqualifier)
Comment by Raven — August 14, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
Careful r, you’re beginning to show signs of punnery and a sardonic sense of humor… these are well known to be creative liberal characteristics…
Comment by Raven — August 14, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
Raven,
Notice how that scared him back into his normal repug double-digit IQ feces flinging behavior?
Comment by upside00 — August 14, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
Dang Raven, you caught me. I had to steal a good righty rant. But poor upside00 is convinced I’m back to my old self.
Oh well…
August 14th, 2007 at 6:41 pmDon’t that just figure…I missed the first few episodes. Now it appears I’ve missed the entire season.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:41 pmKarl Rove once said that the press is “less liberal than it is oppositional.â€
Heh.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:41 pmCareful r, you’re beginning to show signs of punnery and a sardonic sense of humor… these are well known to be creative liberal characteristics…
Comment by Raven — August 14, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
Raven,
Notice how that scared him back into his normal repug double-digit IQ feces flinging behavior?
Comment by upside00 — August 14, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
Good job guys. We don’t need Thing r or any of his kind on our team.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:43 pm“Oh well…”
Comment by r
Hey, don’t sweat the load man,
August 14th, 2007 at 6:43 pmit’s not like we’re keeping score or anything…..;)
Comment by r — August 14, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
Sigh!
August 14th, 2007 at 6:43 pmsatire that tilts right.
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There’s always South Park.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Except that the boys tilt libertarian, not “Right”. And they tend to find targets all over the spectrum. And they’re not afraid to satirize anyone, even Jesus Christ. I have my doubts that South Park is a big hit among the Religious Right.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:44 pmNow…. if any of youi want to see REAL humor, watch Lil. Bush on Comedy Central. That is one of the funniest and dead-on shows on the tube.
Even the Righties would have to honestly agree that it nails reality right between the eyes.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:46 pmMore in character, you had us worried for a minute.
Comment by shane — August 14, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Notice how that scared him back into his normal repug double-digit IQ feces flinging behavior?
Comment by upside00 — August 14, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
Good job guys. We don’t need Thing r or any of his kind on our team.
Comment by shane — August 14, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
Sheesh, I can’t get this fish off the hook.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:48 pmJon Stewart’s show is funny because, well, because he has creative funny writers and actors. It’s funny because poking fun at the people in power is almost always good for a laugh. If it makes fun of people on the Right, it’s because (a) they’ve been in power and (b) they’ve been ridiculous in their pomposity and hypocricy.
Comment by gummitch — August 14, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
Two observations:
1) Think of the average IQ of the audience for The Daily Show. To understand the wry humor and satire of this show, one needs intelligence higher than that of eggplant. The “creative writers and actors” would have a much tougher time if they had to dumb down to the audience.
2) Molly Ivins had a personal rule never to go after the weak — only attack the powerful. The Daily Show, the Colbert Report, etc. have followed this rule, and it’s a big part of their success.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:48 pmPerfect example of capitalism which the Fairness Doctrine needs to recognize.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:48 pmaw… even george stephanopolis gave it a plug
putting one of the jokes on the sunday funnies…
i remember a chuckle, but not the joke…
August 14th, 2007 at 6:48 pmanyone?
…
Sheesh, I can’t get this fish off the hook.
Comment by r — August 14, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
You could always stop posting.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:49 pmSheesh, I can’t get this fish off the hook.
Comment by r
Score:
Raven won
August 14th, 2007 at 6:50 pmand you, r, nothing
There’s always South Park.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
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You got that right, Ringo!
(We… we didn’t listen!!! *rolls down window*
WE DIDN’T LISTEN!!!!!!!!!)
August 14th, 2007 at 6:50 pmRaven won
and you, r, nothing
Comment by heyzeus — August 14, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
—
Wait a tick………………………………………
August 14th, 2007 at 6:50 pmExcept that the boys tilt libertarian, not “Rightâ€. And they tend to find targets all over the spectrum. And they’re not afraid to satirize anyone, even Jesus Christ. I have my doubts that South Park is a big hit among the Religious Right.
Comment by gummitch
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I like it…..but then I’m not part of the religious right, I’m an evil neo-con.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:51 pmThe thing is, it’s not that the satire failed. It’s that it wasn’t satire. The best satire is hilarious because it is strongly grounded in reality and so it cuts very close to the bone on its targets and perhaps on its viewers as well. The one on that stupid channel simply re-hashed and aired all the same tired talking points that usually have no basis in fact or at least extremely misconstrued to put Dems in a bad light. Additionally, knowing how fair and balanced FAUX was, I bet that that stupid show never hit a Repub, regardless of how supposedly disloyal (cough cough Chuck Hagel, George Voinovich) they were. The Daily Show has hit Dems when they have rolled over like the soft toys that they too often are. So a partisan outlook is anathema to satire. They’re incompatible.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:51 pmWait a tick………………………………………
Comment by Malicious
Uh oh, Lymes disease…..
August 14th, 2007 at 6:52 pmI like it…..but then I’m not part of the religious right, I’m an evil neo-con.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
Then you probably identify with Cartman and his authoritay.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:53 pmThere’s always South Park. Comment by Ringo
Funny thing about FOX, they call themselves conservative yet there programming is some of the most anti-religious of any according to the Parents Television Council.
Which, of course, makes Oreillys ‘War on Christmas’ all the more Orwellian.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:53 pmHey!!!
Oh, Raven, I thought you were someone else, but it seems I was mistaken……………..
August 14th, 2007 at 6:53 pmtruth and hate. Repugl(-ic)ants are always baffled that hate doesn’t get a laugh. Right wing comedy fails (thank God) because the punchline is always hateful. And if you can’t make it funny, what does that say about being a republican?
“What the right-wing failed to grasp is Jon Stewart is funny not because he spins falsehoods but because he tells the truth.”
August 14th, 2007 at 6:54 pmI heard that that show was paying people $15 to come in so they would have a live audience. Funny, how the Daily Show is booked solid 5 months in advance.
Mostly what the Daily Show does is point out the truth and show how absurd people are from Rush to Bush to Hillary, it does not matter. One thing the Daily Show does that the MSM fails to do is to show clips of Bush and Cheney saying the opposite of what they just said. Famous example is a recent interview where Cheney said ‘I never said that’, and then Jon shows the clip where he says it.
Why the MSM does not point this out I do not know!!!!! This is true lying and you must find out from a comedian.
Last night Jon had a memory expert on and showed a clip of Rumsfeld saying ‘30 years ago….’ and he had a detailed memory of what happened. Compare to the hearings a little while ago, where Rummy could not recall anyting.
I am constantly amazed how comedy shows have more truth than the ‘real’ news, truly amazed.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:55 pmAnd “gay penguins” is so funny it had to be scrolled twice because…?
August 14th, 2007 at 6:55 pmI like it…..but then I’m not part of the religious right, I’m an evil neo-con.
Comment by Ringo
WOW! You openly admit that? Not many people do, it’s like admitting to being a member of the KKK or that you actually voted for Bush/Cheney in 04.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:55 pm“Fox’s Right-Wing Alternative To Daily Show Fails”
Updated for Congress: “DNC
August 14th, 2007 at 6:56 pmFox’s Right-WingAlternative ToDailyGOP Show Fails”All I can say is YAY!!!!! Now, cue the canned laughter.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:56 pmit’s not like we’re keeping score or anything…..;)
Comment by Raven — August 14, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
Score:
Raven won
and you, r, nothing
Comment by heyzeus — August 14, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
I’ll no longer believe that ya’ll don’t keep score. Especially if it’s the progressive scoring system, [won] to nothing.
Sounds like soccer.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:57 pmUpdated for Congress: “DNC Fox’s Right-Wing Alternative To Daily GOP Show Fails†Comment by Anon — August 14, 2007 @ 6:56 pm
Yet both the Democrats and the Democratically controlled congress still has a higher rating than Republicans in polls this week. That must make you the DOUBLE DOG LOSERS!!!
August 14th, 2007 at 6:58 pmAs Fox has learned, that’s because no one wants to watch that kind of satire.
Filed under: Media Posted by Satyam at 6:18 pm
Great article however I have to disagree with you on WHY it failed.
Its not that no one wants that kind of satire. The right wing is craving it.
The reason it didn’t work is because for satire to work, it has to be TRUE.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:59 pmSounds like soccer.
Comment by r
No, in soccer, it would be one to nil.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:59 pmI’ll no longer believe that ya’ll don’t keep score. Especially if it’s the progressive scoring system, [won] to nothing.
Sounds like soccer.
Comment by r — August 14, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
The party of ‘caging’, whining about the scoring system of others. Typical boring PROJECTION… You’re a real dummie there ‘r’.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:59 pmSatire just doesn’t work when you’re making it up.
August 14th, 2007 at 6:59 pmI *might* consider studying this as a potential research in the use of humor in civic discourse if I can force myself to do it. My guess is that no dvd set will be forthcoming anytime soon. Does anyone have any suggestions where i’d be able to find back episodes if I decide to go this (admittedly unpleasant) route?
August 14th, 2007 at 7:00 pmSounds like soccer.
Comment by r
Is that like futbol?
August 14th, 2007 at 7:00 pmSpeaking TO power can be funny. Stewart, Colbert and Mahr prove this on a nightly basis. Speaking FOR power is never funny; never has been, never will be. The great Molly Ivins used to point out that trying to use satire in service of power was often like “kicking a cripple.” Not funny.
Dennis Miller used to be kind of funny when he was taking shots at power. Now that he’s been a mouthpiece for power, he’s just not funny. When is the right wing going to learn something American comedians have known for over 100 years?
August 14th, 2007 at 7:00 pmWOW! You openly admit that? Not many people do, it’s like admitting to being a member of the KKK or that you actually voted for Bush/Cheney in 04.
Comment by upside00
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No, it’s nothing like being in the KKK. Most Klansmen have been Democrats and isolationists.
I did vote for Bush though, twice.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:01 pmDoes anyone have any suggestions where i’d be able to find back episodes if I decide to go this (admittedly unpleasant) route?
Comment by johno — August 14, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
I doubt it John. As usual Fox will copyright the crap out of it, and bury it, to hide their shame.
You may find some bootlegs on Youtube or something.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:02 pmThere’s always South Park.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Yeah, they’re so conservative they never make fun of religion or you wingnut fanatics!!! WAHAHAHA!!! Southpark pisses off everyone, because you will watch them because they do. Those greedy little boys don’t really care about anything other than making money…
August 14th, 2007 at 7:03 pmWhen is the right wing going to learn something American comedians have known for over 100 years?
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper
Never happen GI!
The right wing has never had a real funny person in the past 50 years. It isn’t in their DNA (or their IQ, as several others have pointed out earlier.)
August 14th, 2007 at 7:03 pmIF a Democrat is elected President in ‘08, they will have about a 15 minute honeymoon on TDS and Colbert, and then they’ll be getting it upside the head just like any politician gets it there. There’s no politician or party that can’t be lampooned or satirized, and that’s why TDS and Colbert will continue on just fine.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:05 pmNo, it’s nothing like being in the KKK. Most Klansmen have been Democrats and isolationists. Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
So have most southern republicans - I mean Klansmen… They’re your problem now - neocon! You and KKKarl wanted them - we didn’t! And it was worth losing some elections in the south so they’d be your problem!
Besides, the KKK never liked democratic values, they were just sore over the GOP taking away their slavery. When KKKarl informed them that you modern GOPists agreed with them, they moved to your party in drove! Like good old Strom Thurmond! He was one of the best examples of the beloved GOP KKKers you had!
I did vote for Bush though, twice.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
Ignorance tends to breed ignorance…
August 14th, 2007 at 7:05 pmjohno: It’s the canned laughter.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:06 pmSpeaking TO power can be funny. Stewart, Colbert and Mahr prove this on a nightly basis. Speaking FOR power is never funny; never has been, never will be.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 14, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
How true.
But I also think it plays on the idea of satire. Satire works when you are satyrizing something that is TRUE.
These guys just made up crap. Theres no satire there, just a couple of 3rd rate comedians trying to mimic Jon Stewart techniques while turning them on us. It didn’t work, because for statire to really work, it HAS to be TRUE.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:06 pmI did vote for Bush though, twice.
Comment by Ringo
Now, don’t you feel better getting that off your chest and admitting the folly of your uninformed ways?
They are forming a “I Can’t Quit You, Dubya” chapter near you. Help is on the way, we promise!
August 14th, 2007 at 7:06 pmI did vote for Bush though, twice.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
Yea, we know.
In the same election.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:07 pmNot a total loss for FOX. They may be able to sell syndication rights to Justice and Defense for closed-circuit broadcasts @ Gitmo.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:07 pmHere’s one, john. Laura Ingraham is no Samantha Bee.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:07 pmdo the math:
funny ≠conservatives.
eh?
August 14th, 2007 at 7:10 pmHeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus,
Well, the KKK wouldn’t like me, I’m in an inter-racial marriage and I’m a big supporter of Israel.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:11 pmNow, don’t you feel better getting that off your chest and admitting the folly of your uninformed ways?
Comment by upside00
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How can I be uninformed, I read ThinkProgress everyday?
August 14th, 2007 at 7:12 pmGee, the jokes about invading muslim countries, killing their leaders and converting everyone to christianity weren’t selling, huh? Go figure.
Clinton jokes about stained blue dresses not considered that timely? Who’d a thunkit?
This was a show born out of the rovian mentality that repeating what you want to be the truth often enough will cause that truth to burst into being; i.e., “Let’s keep repeating these republican talking points with laugh track! It’s *bound* to win ‘em over eventually!”
August 14th, 2007 at 7:14 pmHow can I be uninformed, I read ThinkProgress everyday?
Comment by Ringo
But you STILL are riding around in Dubya’s jock strap! Didn’t anything we have said to you all this time wake you up????
August 14th, 2007 at 7:14 pmThe reason it didn’t work is because for satire to work, it has to be TRUE.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 14, 2007 @ 6:59 pm
Satire just doesn’t work when you’re making it up.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 14, 2007 @ 6:59 pm
So when Zooey called the troops BAIT, and then said it was satire, was that true BARTLEBEE?
Thank you for your support of the BAIT.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:19 pmRun on down to the recruiter’s office, they’re looking for more BAIT.
Comment by Zooey — July 23, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
What the right-wing failed to grasp…
…is that they haven’t slightest idea what humor is.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:21 pm.
The best conservative satarist by far, is Tom Wolfe. Radical Chic is as good today as the day it was written.
And the best conservative humorist these days is Mark Steyn.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:21 pmComment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper
Never happen GI!
The right wing has never had a real funny person in the past 50 years. It isn’t in their DNA (or their IQ, as several others have pointed out earlier.)
Comment by upside00 — August 14, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
If they were funny they’d be progressive. When you walk around with a stick up your arse all day you don’t want to laugh.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:22 pmComment by Zooey — July 23, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
Comment by r — August 14, 2007 @ 7:19 pm
Holy Crap! Look at that date! He has saved something from Zooey from July 23rd.
Must have a BIG thing for the Z lady, huh?
CREEPY!
August 14th, 2007 at 7:23 pmIf they were funny they’d be progressive. When you walk around with a stick up your arse all day you don’t want to laugh.
Comment by shane — August 14, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
Heh, I’ll take your word for it, heh.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:24 pmComment by upside00 — August 14, 2007 @ 7:23 pm
All of the cruel, unAmerican, comments on this blog should be saved for the time that TP is brought to trial on charges of treason and conspiring with the enemy.
The enemy, in this case, being, namely, the democrat party.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:26 pmHeh, I’ll take your word for it, heh.
Comment by r — August 14, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
If you didn’t have the stick up your arse, you’d be able to share your own experiences more clearly…
August 14th, 2007 at 7:26 pmI’ve found PJ O’Rourke funny in the past (well, before I knew his politics). He’s a very clever writer. However, as time goes on and he will not renounce such unconscionable beliefs, even when his comedy isn’t explicitly political (for ex, just in writing about travel) I know the lens through which I read him and it takes a bit of the veneer of humor away from his writing at times. Not much, but certainly if he becomes political, it’s just sickening now because the Cheney regime is so evil (BTW, if you’re reading this NSA, I hope you’re enjoying our inconsistent attempts at humor. We try and work a wide audience here……from eavesdroppers to other libs…it’s tough to keep everyone happy)
August 14th, 2007 at 7:27 pmI think Zooey was referring to vietnam r. as she was a military brat*
[*raised on base]
Ground troops [Vietnam] became the live bait for the ambush and firefight. GIs referred to search and destroy as “humping the boonies by dangling the *bait.”
So there is truth to the *bait remark she made r. It was a term used by the GI’s.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:28 pmMust have a BIG thing for the Z lady, huh?
CREEPY!
Comment by upside00 — August 14, 2007 @ 7:23 pm
Thing r must be Troll michael. Good catch.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:28 pmThe best conservative satarist by far, is Tom Wolfe. Radical Chic is as good today as the day it was written.
And the best conservative humorist these days is Mark Steyn.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 7:21 pm
Neither of whom are smart enough or funny enough to get more than an admonishing glare from people of conscience and intelligence…
Your tastes in humor reflects your constrained view of the world. Especially when your best humorist is a ‘Canadian’ hack. Sad, very sad…
If you want a funny canadian, Mike Myers is your man!
August 14th, 2007 at 7:30 pmIf you didn’t have the stick up your arse, you’d be able to share your own experiences more clearly…
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 14, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
When you walk around with a stick up your arse all day you don’t want to laugh.
Comment by shane — August 14, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
Shane is the one giving us his views, not me.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:30 pmI’ve found PJ O’Rourke funny in the past (well, before I knew his politics). He’s a very clever writer. Comment by TC — August 14, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
He’s funny to LAUGH AT! The stupid sh’t that man says is humor only because you can’t believe someone would be stupid enough to believe it!
August 14th, 2007 at 7:31 pmThe enemy, in this case, being, namely, the democrat party.
Comment by Malicious — August 14, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
As should all the Reichwing Nazi posts from Sunday talking about giving libs badges and tattoos so they’ll be easier to round up and take away.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:31 pmThe funniest conservative satire is Keith Olbermann.
….Oh, wait. Olbermann’s not parody, he’s real!
Oh well, he as funny as a parody.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:33 pmThing r must be Troll michael. Good catch.
Comment by shane
Now that you mention it, the rants do sound familiar. And he DID stalk her for a bit, as I recall.
As I said: CREEPY!!
August 14th, 2007 at 7:33 pmNo surprise - the right was making the same mistake as the left - you can’t simply take a format that the other side succeeds with. Their best bet was to just have Dennis Miller resurrect his show from HBO, develop / test skits, etc., then spin off additional shows, just as The Daily Show spun off The Colbert Report.
If there is any irony, it is that The Colbert Report is much funnier by being far more affective at lampooning the left while “acting” like the right.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:34 pmYour tastes in humor reflects your constrained view of the world.
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus
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Yes, I do have a constrained view of the world, or at least, of human nature.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:35 pmHeh, I’ll take your word for it, heh.
Comment by r — August 14, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
If you didn’t have the stick up your arse, you’d be able to share your own experiences more clearly…
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 14, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
Shane is the one giving us his views, not me.
Comment by r — August 14, 2007 @ 7:30 pm
You’re the one who can’t keep up. VVSFU was responding to your comment to me. Try to focus grasshopper.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:36 pmobviously a liberal conspiracy.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:36 pmThe funniest conservative satire is Keith Olbermann.
….Oh, wait. Olbermann’s not parody, he’s real!
Oh well, he as funny as a parody.
Comment by Ringo
Actually, Keith O WAS a conservative until Dubya opened his eyes. Now he is just trying to make up for his foolish ways.
And he may be one of the most courageous people on TV, as well as having a sense of humor!
August 14th, 2007 at 7:37 pmHere’s some great conservative satire:
http://blamebush.typepad.com/
Very funny stuff. It almost reads as if it were written by TP posters ronjazz or HellenBucket.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:37 pm….Oh, wait. Olbermann’s not parody, he’s real! - Ringo
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Zing!
August 14th, 2007 at 7:37 pmMalicious, why don’t you just crawl back into your stinking hole and pull wings off flies or whatever it is that jackasses like you do in your spare time. I know cowards like you would like government to arrest those of us with whom you don’t agree, but that’s just not the way our system works. 230 years ago, you would have just been another one of the pathetic, cowardly royalists - just as unamerican as you are today.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:39 pmComment by TC — August 14, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
Sorry to give you bad company here, but I think PJ was great. I say was, because he’s getting old and crotchety. But “The high speed performance characteristics of the pickup truck” or whatever that was. Great.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:40 pmPJ O’Rourke is still good. I just read his latest book on Adam Smith’s The Wealth of Nations….Informative and quite funny.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:43 pmSorry to give you bad company here, but I think PJ was great. I say was, because he’s getting old and crotchety. Comment by r — August 14, 2007 @ 7:40 pm
Getting old and crotchety? You wingnuts come out of the womb that way!
But “The high speed performance characteristics of the pickup truck†or whatever that was. Great. Comment by r — August 14, 2007 @ 7:40 pm
As opposed to the low speed performance of your wingnut brain?
August 14th, 2007 at 7:43 pmIf there is any irony, it is that The Colbert Report is much funnier by being far more affective at lampooning the left while “acting†like the right.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 14, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
Sure Jason, he’s lampooning the left. You’ve got a real grasp on the intricacies there, just you don’t worry about what everybody else is laughing at that you don’t understand.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:43 pmBottom line: the fools at FOX thought they could compete with Stewart and failed miserably. Their network is for stupid people. Stewart speaks to those of us who are better informed. Their network is for political propaganda. Stewart is about political humor and satire. Stewart wins. Ailes loses. Perfect! The tide started turning a couple of years ago and most of these pathetic losers on the right haven’t figured it out yet.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:44 pmYes, I do have a constrained view of the world, or at least, of human nature. Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 7:35 pm
A constrained mind will find a constrained world. That explains why you always act like your constipated!
As for the Olbermann joke - you clearly meant O’Reilly. And while he does come off as a parody of you stupid wingnuts - Colbert’s O’Reilly is FUNNIER!
August 14th, 2007 at 7:45 pmOh, wait. Olbermann’s not parody, he’s real! - Ringo
Most of the GOP deferment patriots are real.
Oh wait they are real parody patriot chickenhawks!!
=====>>>ZING!!!
August 14th, 2007 at 7:45 pm===========>>>AAAAAooooooOOooO!!!!
No surprise - the right was making the same mistake as the left - you can’t simply take a format that the other side succeeds with. Their best bet was to just have Dennis Miller resurrect his show from HBO, develop / test skits, etc., then spin off additional shows, just as The Daily Show spun off The Colbert Report. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 14, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
Miller s’cked, as did his ratings. You would like him? You’re devoid of normal human emotions - what does a brain damaged loonie like you know of humor?
If there is any irony, it is that The Colbert Report is much funnier by being far more affective at lampooning the left while “acting†like the right. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 14, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
They’re lampooning the right. You’re just too brain damaged to get the humor! I’m not sure what’s funnier! That you don’t get that, or that you actually communicated to the world how f’d up you are? BAHAHAHAHA, HUMOR INDEED!!!
August 14th, 2007 at 7:47 pmI think “Republican” and “parody” in the same sentence is redundant.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:47 pmHendler, you’ve just proven with your remark about the Colbert show that you are too stupid to get sophisticated political satire. But, as Al Franken points out, satire is still satire even if the object of the satire doesn’t know it’s satire.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:47 pmIf there is any irony, it is that The Colbert Report is much funnier by being far more affective at lampooning the left while “acting†like the right.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Must be why George didn’t think he was funny when he said “Reality has a liberal bias”
August 14th, 2007 at 7:47 pmWhy are Lefties so mean and humorless?
August 14th, 2007 at 7:48 pmI think “Republican†and “parody†in the same sentence is redundant. Comment by loretta — August 14, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
Much like “Republican Thought” is contradictory :)
August 14th, 2007 at 7:48 pm99-like I said, when I knew his politics, and certainly over the last few years, about politics, he is atrocious. But his travel writing was really good back in the day.
Kurt Andersen’s done a good book-End of the Century, or something like that, but when I learned of his cynical views about the war on turrrrrr, I sold that book in a quick minute.
Martin Amis seems to have bought some of the hype, though he’s not in the tank like Miller, Andersen, O’Rourke to the same degree. At least a couple years ago he wrote about good Islam and bad Islam as though there’s a copyright mark on all Muslims identifying them as such……but he was a bit more thoughtful than those other mo’fuggas. Not sure what his views are now.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:49 pmI think Zooey was referring to vietnam r. as she was a military brat*
[*raised on base]
Ground troops [Vietnam] became the live bait for the ambush and firefight. GIs referred to search and destroy as “humping the boonies by dangling the *bait.â€
So there is truth to the *bait remark she made r. It was a term used by the GI’s.
Comment by Zep Tepi — August 14, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
Nope, Zooey said it was satire.
It is satire. Cruel satire. That’s how paul is talking about the troops or “coalition,†if you will — as if they are bait, keeping the evil terrorists over there by being available for the slaughter. He’s a moron.
No offense meant.
Comment by Zooey — July 23, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
And now BARTLEBEE says it has to be true.
The reason it didn’t work is because for satire to work, it has to be TRUE.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 14, 2007 @ 6:59 pm
Satire just doesn’t work when you’re making it up.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 14, 2007 @ 6:59 pm
August 14th, 2007 at 7:50 pmI think “Republican†and “parody†in the same sentence is redundant. Comment by loretta — August 14, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
Much like “Republican Thought†is contradictory :)
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus
Wait Wait! I have one! Or like Republican Family Values!
August 14th, 2007 at 7:50 pmRingo says “here’s some great conservative satire,” and when I go there, the first thing I see is a “joke” about Matthew Shepard. See, that’s what’s wrong with conservatives. They don’t seem to get that the brutal torture and slaying of an innocent young man is just not something from which one can glean humor. As sociopaths often do, conservatives laugh about the most horrible things. John Stewart would never, ever fashion a “joke” out of a horrible murder. He is not a sociopath.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:52 pmRingo: “Why are Lefties so mean and humorless?”
Hey stupid, did you forget the point of this thread. Your humor doesn’t work and you don’t “get” our humor. We’re the ones laughing with Stewart. You guys are the ones getting angry.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:54 pmThe reason it didn’t work is because for satire to work, it has to be TRUE
I pointed out the truth of the BAIT remark r.
Zooey said it was cruel satire but Satire nonetheless. She was also replying to another posters remark about ‘BAIT’: Paul.
That’s how paul is talking about the troops or “coalition,†if you will — as if they are bait, keeping the evil terrorists over there by being available for the slaughter.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:55 pmAh, more projection from the homophobic closet case…
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus
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Why do you keep calling me homophobic?
I’ve said many times that I have no problem with homosexuals. I also believe that they should be allowed to serve openly in the miltary. My daughter’s baby sitter is a lesbian and she and her lover are frequent guests in my home.
I am in favor of same sex civil unions as well.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:55 pmYou guys are the ones getting angry.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper
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I’m not angry….I come here for a laugh.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:56 pmSo they cancelled John Gibson’s lil’ show, did they? Oh wait, my mistake.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:56 pmPaul is a right leaning poster r.
Thanks for helping deflate your argument.
Ringo: “Why are Lefties so mean and humorless?â€
Hey, I didn’t write the failed [and obviously humorless] show this post is about!
August 14th, 2007 at 7:57 pmSo none of you found this site funny?….http://blamebush.typepad.com/
August 14th, 2007 at 7:58 pm#94 - (BTW, if you’re reading this NSA, I hope you’re enjoying our inconsistent attempts at humor. …)
Don’t flatter yourself - try as you might, you’re pretty far down on “the list”.
August 14th, 2007 at 7:58 pmI’m not angry….I come here for a laugh. Comment by Ringo
But you just claimed that were mean and humorless!!
LMAO!!!!
August 14th, 2007 at 7:59 pmHeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus,
BIGOT
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Now, how exactly am I a bigot?…Just wondering.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:01 pmDon’t flatter yourself - try as you might, you’re pretty far down on “the listâ€. Comment by valiant venus
Okay, I’ll bite. Now your claiming to know about secret lists?
August 14th, 2007 at 8:02 pmBut you just claimed that were mean and humorless!!
Comment by Zep Tepi
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No I didn’t.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:02 pm“Why are Lefties so mean and humorless?â€
I’m not angry….I come here for a laugh.
Comment by Ringo
Huh?
August 14th, 2007 at 8:03 pmFaiz,
What happened to my post at #115?
It keeps going on and off here.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:04 pmI see Jaun Cole jr has shown up.
Hi Little C.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:04 pmShit, they ought to hire all these idiot trolls, line them up and have them spout off the crap they bring here. I’d watch that 24/7, laughing my ass off as the audience gets to pelt them with spoiled cottage cheese pies.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:04 pmYeah, the unintentional humor of these self-destructive wingnuts as they twist themselves in a knot is very funny!
Its like watching fish on hot concrete trying to evade hungry seagulls!!
August 14th, 2007 at 8:04 pmwrongo, one peak at that POS site showed who you really are, a sick, patheric, humorless sociopath. Republican, for short. The premises were psycho, the writing turgid, the “satire” braindead, like the intended audience. Republicans do humor as well as karl Rove does hip-hop. Ridiculous, but not surprising. You own the bottom third of the brain trust.
But thanks for ‘06, and we’re looking forward to a Democratic unitary executive.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:05 pmRingo comes here while he plays with IT
August 14th, 2007 at 8:07 pmronjazz,
“The premises were psycho, the writing turgid, the “satire†braindead, like the intended audience.”
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Really?…The writing style kind of reminded me of one of your TP posts.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:09 pmOnly when you’re on the thread Raven.
Night.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:09 pmWhy are Lefties so mean and humorless?
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
Oh, you BELIEVE they are mean and humorless?
Believe Claim Imagine Project Insinuate
August 14th, 2007 at 8:09 pmWhy are Lefties so mean and humorless?
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
Step away from the mirror dittohead.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:10 pmSo none of you found this site funny?….http://blamebush.typepad.com/
Comment by Ringo
Very similar to the HHNH.
Just sleazy character attacks.
What makes the Daily Show FUNNY is that Stewart simply has to present the people like Bush, etc., LYING and saying things that show them to be HYPOCRITES.
i.e. Leakers should be PUNISHED if it shows that Bush committed CRIMES, but Libby, Rove, Armitage are PATRIOTS who deserve PARDONS when they
SABOTAGE NATIONAL SECURITY by exposing our WMD SPY.
DOUBLE STANDARDS.
Now, if the HHNH could actually use FACTS in order to show that the DEMS are being hypocritcal,
THAT would be funny.
But HHNH is Karl Rove-specialty CHARACTER ASSASSINATION.
NOT “humor”.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:12 pmRUC, Im with you.
Hell, lets just put some posts of Ringo trying to explain how he adores his immigrants workers but wants to keep killing Iraqis. Oh, no, better, why doesnt he explain us nuclear power, he seemed to know a lot some months ago.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:13 pmIf there is any irony, it is that The Colbert Report is much funnier by being far more affective at lampooning the left while “acting†like the right.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 14, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
Yah like when he had that Republican Congressman that wanted the 10 Commandments posted, and he didn’t even know but maybe one of them were, yah the left sure was lampooned then.
JMH I’ve been trying to avoid personal attacks, but you’re as stupid today, as you were 6 months ago when I saw your posts here.
You really believe the crap that comes out of your mouth?
August 14th, 2007 at 8:16 pmSays the stupidest troll around, that wouldn’t know humor if it blew her skinny white ’ss off of her coke strewn coffee table…
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 14, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
Don’t give the tramp so much credit. She’s too white trashy for coke, she’s definitely a crystal meth girl. And that’s the drug of choice for skinny trailer park girls, she doesn’t have to barf so much on meth.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:16 pmSo when Zooey called the troops BAIT, and then said it was satire, was that true BARTLEBEE?
Comment by r — August 14, 2007 @ 7:19 pm
The troops are being used for bait. Where have you been living, on Mars?
The troops are simply bait for the Iraqi insurgency. The plan is leave the troops there, driving around in unprotected humvees as bait for insurgent attacks. Then, when a humvee full of troops gets blown up or comes under fire, we can catch insurgents.
The troops are being used to draw out the enemy, and not in a safe way. They’re dangling on the end of Bush’s fish hook, and getting killed for it.
Get a clue “r”. (r u stupid?)
August 14th, 2007 at 8:18 pmAnd before you get on your inbred neocon high horse and declare “how can you say such a thing”, I will advise you know, to take it up with the guy who is USING them as bait.
Not the person who just happened to notice.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:20 pmOh, no, better, why doesnt he explain us nuclear power, he seemed to know a lot some months ago.
Comment by Juan C
Speaking of nuclear power the Thorium reactors look promising. Run for 30 years, are modular, dont produce fissile material, are sealed.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:25 pmSatyam - Allow me to applaud open-minded libruls….your censorship skills would make Stalin proud!! Keep up the good work!!!
August 14th, 2007 at 8:33 pmComment by valiant venus — August 14, 2007 @ 8:33 pm
Are you into the Oxycontin or something? You’re making less sense than usual, and you have previously set a very low bar.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:38 pmSatyam - Allow me to applaud open-minded libruls….your censorship skills would make Stalin proud!! Keep up the good work!!!
Comment by valiant venus
HOW is it “censorship”?
Now, AT&T censoring Pearl Jam IS censorship.
So is stopping the Surgeon General from telling the TRUTH.
So is Bush and Cheney making rally attendeed sign LOYALTY OATHS.
Or keeping Sibel Edmonds from telling the TRUTH to Congress.
Or keeping Rove and Miers from testifying before Congress.
Or claiming “executive privilege” in the MURDER of Pat Tillman.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:41 pmValiant Venus,
You are posting here now, what;t your beef?
August 14th, 2007 at 8:47 pmOlberman quote: “Fox’s first attempt at a comedy show. I mean, first attempt at an intentional comedy show.”
August 14th, 2007 at 8:50 pm#169- You’re such a convenient “useful idiot”. Sadly, many progs criticized Pat Tillman’s enlistment….until he was “conveniently” dead….I honour him and all who have volunteered to fight our nations enemies.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:51 pmI honour him and all who have volunteered to fight our nations enemies.
Comment by valiant venus — August 14, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
Yea by tossing more bodies onto the fire.
The only way you have to honor the troops is to sacrifice more troops.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:52 pmActually, when my retinas suffered the misfortune of seeing a segment of this… thing, I just thought it was Fox News. Then I noticed it had a laughter track.
Oh, and Valiant Venus, what on earth are you blathering on about?
August 14th, 2007 at 8:53 pmI honour him and all who have volunteered to fight our nations enemies.
Comment by valiant venus — August 14, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
I almost took over the world, with a bunch of nuts, I mean Patriots just like that!
August 14th, 2007 at 8:54 pmWhen you’re ready to sacrifice yourself, then come talk to us about your “honour”.
And by the way BeHighJane.
Unless you live in England, its spelled “Honor”.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:54 pmI almost took over the world, with a bunch of nuts, I mean Patriots just like that!
Comment by Hitler — August 14, 2007 @ 8:54 pm
Hey look. Its Adolf.
How are they “hangin” Dolf?
August 14th, 2007 at 8:56 pmSadly, many progs criticized Pat Tillman’s enlistment….until he was “conveniently†dead….I honour him and all who have volunteered to fight our nations enemies.
Comment by valiant venus
“Conveniently” dead? WTF does that mean? That it was “convenient” for BushCo to tout his death? Then cover up what happened? Then using EP to keep it covered up?
Not some of your best work here, Venus!
August 14th, 2007 at 8:57 pmThen I noticed it had a laughter track.
Comment by Loonie — August 14, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
What the hell was with the laughtrack? Couldn’t they get a real audience?
August 14th, 2007 at 8:57 pmUpside - MANY of my posts are censored. I do not curse and I generally refrain from addressing many of the personal attacks. I’m still waiting for a prog site that will inform us what Dem candidates are for …..besides picking other peoples’ pockets and creating more “entitlement” programs…TP would be a barren site if negativity were banned.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:57 pmTherein lies the ultimate tragedy. They couldn’t even put a live audience together who would laugh at the thing.
August 14th, 2007 at 8:59 pmUpside - Do you try to convince others of your dyslexia? Conservatives praised Pat Tillman for his unselfish sacrifice of the “good life” when he enlisted. Pat Tillman was NOT a hero to the Left until he was DEAD. Period.
August 14th, 2007 at 9:00 pmI’m still waiting for a prog site that will inform us what Dem candidates are for …..besides picking other peoples’ pockets and creating more “entitlement†programs…TP would be a barren site if negativity were banned.
Comment by valiant venus
Like maybe getting us out of this illegal war and continuing occupation, balancing the budget from the damage done by the wild spending repubs, restoring the US Constitution and the Rule of Law? That kind of information?
August 14th, 2007 at 9:01 pmDidn’t that show get better ratings than Olby did?
August 14th, 2007 at 9:02 pmfor a prog site that will inform us what Dem candidates are for …..besides picking other peoples’ pockets and creating more “entitlement†programs…TP would be a barren site if negativity were banned.
Comment by valiant venus — August 14, 2007 @ 8:57 pm
Yah nothing like Dick Cheney making 8 million off his no-bid Haliburton stock eh? Lots of ethics there?
Or those oil companies making record profits, while we give them huge tax breaks, and hell even give them money for research, exploration, and so on. What are they gonna do if the govt stops? Leave America and give up all their income from the largest consumers of gas in the world? Raise their prices? Fine we drive less and then our govt uses the money we save to invest in America.
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