Markos on Rove’s pre-war Iraq legacy.
By on Aug 14th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
Markos on Rove’s pre-war Iraq legacy.
Last night on the Charlie Rose show, DailyKos found Markos Moulitsas Zuniga discussed Karl Rove’s role in leading up the Iraq war. “I think he saw this is a great way to win some elections, let’s go with it,” Markos said. “He definitely was a chief architect in selling the war. I don’t know if he thought it was the best idea. … I just think he saw it as a great political tool to use to defeat Democrats.” Watch it:
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“He definitely was a chief architect in selling the war. I don’t know if he thought it was the best idea. … I just think he saw it as a great political tool to use to defeat Democrats.â€
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And Democrats see defeat in Iraq as a great political tool to beat Republicans.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:19 pmKilling men, women and children to win an election should be a crime no different than stuffing a ballot box.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:20 pmThe ratio of troll comments to story seems to indicate the extent of Republican fear.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:21 pmRove is an accomplice in the Bush Regime war crimes in Iraq. Therefore he can be prosecuted by the world court at the Hague.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:22 pmIt’s very ironic how many WAR VETERANS, like myself, on this site are anti-war (when the war is based on lies), and how many supporters of the war are chicken hawks who never served in anything beyond the Boy Scouts.
Here’s my new idea: if you’re not a veteran, your pro-war opinions don’t count for SH*T!!!
August 14th, 2007 at 1:23 pmKKKarl Rove IS A CRIMINAL AND A TRAITOR.
DO YOU AGREE?
Comment by i — August 14, 2007 @ 1:18 pm
Yes!!
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August 14th, 2007 at 1:23 pmAdding no offense doesn’t take away the offense
August 14th, 2007 at 1:23 pmGOPer trolls lurk on TP to snag the first comments for every thread now. That is an attempt to destroy any rational opinions being posted and to discourage visitors to TP from reading the comments.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:24 pmMarkos looked effeminate on MTP on Sunday. He was limpwristed. He pursed his lips. He looked like a woman, no offense.
Comment by Sonny Black
You sound like it made you horny.
Are you sure you weren’t watching Rove on some other show?
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August 14th, 2007 at 1:30 pmIs Rove eligible for a government pension?
August 14th, 2007 at 1:31 pmyep… EVERYthing about rove was political…
thousands dead, for a political party…
August 14th, 2007 at 1:33 pm.
Kut and run Karl. Bush let Karl bug out but is making our soldiers stay. Bush couldn’t lead an ant to sugar. Bush has failed our troops and is allowing one of the chief architects to cut and run while our military is stranded.
Ignorant pigs follow Bush but the rats are running away.
Wake up and call for Bush’s resignation!
August 14th, 2007 at 1:35 pmKarl Rove was the consummate political operative. To him, there was no other goal except political victory. It did not matter to him what the cost was in the ‘real’ world, as long as in the political arena, he (or his ‘champion’) came out victorious.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:36 pmBush is not holding himself and his administration accountable for this disaster in Iraq. But Bush and Rove ran on a platform of accountability. Bush is a liar and like pigs to swine the ignorant still eat up his slop.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:38 pmMARKOS MOULITSAS ZUNIGA IS A CRIMINAL AND A TRAITOR.
DO YOU AGREE?
Comment by i
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No…..He’s a twit, an ass and a clown; but not a criminal or a traitor.
….although his remarks regarding the contractors burned alive and hung from a bridge in Fallujah were exceptionally disgusting.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:38 pmWait on Rove pension. He still has more to do for this Administration, like go deep into an undisclosed location in order to lead a flalse flag thrust which will result in more war – nuke Iran, for example.
Already I feel great sadness for all the thousands of sailors who will perish when “Iran” takes out one of our carriers.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:39 pm#15 – The downside of the “bar no holds” approach is that it only works for so long before the backlash. Rove and his imitators have fouled the Republican nest badly. All that’s left are paranoid sexually damaged dead-enders, desperately trying to prove their manliness by their vehemence of their advocacy of the torture, humiliation, and killing of others.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:39 pmBush let Rove run while our soldiers die under the Iraqi sun.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:41 pmAnd Democrats see defeat in Iraq as a great political tool to beat Republicans.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 1:19 pmJustifiably. the Republicans are the ones losing the “war”. How stupid are you?
Markos looked effeminate on MTP on Sunday. He was limpwristed. He pursed his lips. He looked like a woman, no offense.
Comment by Sonny Black — August 14, 2007 @ 1:20 pm
Now you expose yourself to us, although we knew all along. You like ‘em pretty, p? He’s way too old for you, by the way. Single digits is the age range for you chickenhawks.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:41 pmRational American > Iran has the ability to sink our entire Navy, but Bush seems to be totally oblivious to it. Dubya will meet his Waterloo upon bombing Iran.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:42 pmThe ratio of troll comments to story seems to indicate the extent of Republican fear.
Comment by david — August 14, 2007 @ 1:21 pm
It is sweaty, clammy fear.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:42 pmRove is let to escape while the coffins are draped.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:43 pmRove is an accomplice in the Bush Regime war crimes in Iraq. Therefore he can be prosecuted by the world court at the Hague.
Comment by Jay Randal — August 14, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
And he will be, And, like those contractors in Iraq getting exactly what they deserved, Rove’s corpse will swing as well. Joined by many other Repig traitors, no doubt.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:44 pmI hate to say it, but yeah, we do need someone who is a better public speaker. He has a great blog, but that does not mean he belongs in front of the camera. Look, when the Repugs/NeoCons say Libs/Dems are weak on security, then they show a Lib/Dem who acts effeminate, how do you think most Americans are gonna react? I’m not trying to offend, I’m just trying to think like the other side. I wouldn’t want Markos to be anything, or anyone but himself, but I’m not sure he is the right one to speak for our side right now.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:45 pmRemember, this is America, most of the time, it’s not what you say, but how you say it. I know it’s sad…look, I like Kucinich, but I’m afraid of how the people of this country perceive him…no matter how right he is, all people can do is say, “he’s short”, “he’s meek” , “he has big ears”…
This is our country and this is what we have to work with. Unfortunately, we have to play by their rules now or we’ll get beat again.
THIS GUY IS A PARTISAN HACK. HE DOESNT CARE ABOUT REAL CHANGE
August 14th, 2007 at 1:46 pmAnd Democrats see defeat in Iraq as a great political tool to beat Republicans.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 1:19 pm
Yeah — who would have thought we’d be handed such a great political tool that allows us the lazy way to beat Republicans? And we didn’t even do anything — the Repubs shot themselves on this one.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:47 pmMORE PARTISAN HACKS. this does nothing to change the system
ANyone who supports Hillary Clinton is making a deal with the devil and deserves to be called an Idiot.
I’m not just spouting off insults. I’m trying to wake you people from your come like slumber. If we don’t pull together and fight for real change then nothing will change.
Hillary is not fighting for you.
She is auctioning off the whitehouse just like Bush did.. Nothing will change
Gravel08.us
August 14th, 2007 at 1:49 pmDID YOU SEE?
Comment by i
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Please tap your “caps lock” key.
Thanks.
….and yes, Markos is a bastard.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:50 pmSteve > it’s sad that many Americans fall for looks, instead of intelligence, so creeps like Bush Junior get into the presidency. GOPers are falling for Romney now, even though he is a wealthy Mormon creep. Kucinich is very intelligent, but many think he looks goofy.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:50 pm….although his remarks regarding the contractors burned alive and hung from a bridge in Fallujah were exceptionally disgusting.
Comment by Ringo
People who kill for money SHOULD be hung from bridges, Dope!
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August 14th, 2007 at 1:51 pm“Here’s my new idea: if you’re not a veteran, your pro-war opinions don’t count for SH*T!!!
Comment by Vet — August 14, 2007 @ 1:23 pm”
Amen Brother…..
August 14th, 2007 at 1:51 pmKos a traitor? limpwristed? Because he did not swallow? At least the garbage that a few Religious reichist, neocon morons tend to spew, and for that I am grateful.
This administration politicized every single issue in government. Every one. From the EPA, to the DOJ, from the DOD to Agriculture, from the CIA to FEMA, from Homeland scrutiny to social security, from immigration to faith based initiatives. OF COURSE Rove treated IraqNam as a political opportunity, no different from every other decision he had a finger in.
To attack the message and messenger is typical of your standard, uneducated, unread, christian, auto-lobotomized right winger that supports the military by buying stickers for his SUV and enjoying the fact that minorities populate the military instead of him, or his family. They are amusing, in that you begin to wonder how they manage to make it through any day without soiling their pants (Zippers constitute pretty complex technology they have problems mastering) or causing a fatal accident.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:52 pmKucinich is politics as usual. why if he is fighting for change did he support the ousting of Gravel from the debates?
THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY!
August 14th, 2007 at 1:52 pm“Here’s my new idea: if you’re not a veteran, your pro-war opinions don’t count for SH*T!!!
Comment by Vet
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Um….Yes they do.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:53 pmWith a nod to hellinabucket:
I’m looking over a four-leaf Rover
August 14th, 2007 at 1:55 pmThat I overlooked before.
One leaf is misinformation, the second is being wrong,
Third is the noses that grow too long.
No need explaining, the one remaining
Is somebody I abhor.
I’m looking over a four-leaf Rover
That I overlooked before.
for that I am grateful. pastor Agnostic
grateful… grateful for what? more of the same. more talking heads spinning the issues in circles? THIS IS MEANINGLESS
Right now you have a once in a lifetime oppurtunity to fight for real change and to stand behind a man that has done more as a senator then any of the other candidates on either side.
He saved your ass from getting drafted!!!
He saved your ass by creating the alaskan pipeline!!!
and how do you repay him? by questioning his economic judgement by questioning his abilities? by questioning his nobility? by questioning his run for presidency because hes not a billioniare?
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? I’m the only true progressive in here at ALL!!!!
You’re all posers! You don’t believe in the stuff you preach because you’re not willing to fight for it!!!
August 14th, 2007 at 1:55 pmPeople who kill for money SHOULD be hung from bridges, Dope!
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Comment by ∞Ω
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If you were here I’d smack you hard.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:55 pmfounder*
August 14th, 2007 at 1:57 pm“Um….Yes they do.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 1:53 pm”
If your not willing to pick up a M16, or put on fatigues then why should it???
If your gonna whoop and hollar about going to war, but are UNWILLING to put on the uniform for that war that you support what makes your voice mean a damn thing?????
If your not willing to die for your country, and you want to support the war, then YOU should be forced to visit the hospitals where the soldiers are laying in bed, and you should be forced to attend every local funeral.
This way YOU will see just what it means to DIE for your country, because you are unwilling to do what these brave men/woman are.
August 14th, 2007 at 1:58 pmUm….Yes they do.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
Why??? Uncle Sam needs you, Ringo. I’m pretty sure the Army is still hiring. Put your ass where your mouth is and enlist, tough guy.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:01 pm“If your not willing to pick up a M16, or put on fatigues then why should it???
If your gonna whoop and hollar about going to war, but are UNWILLING to put on the uniform for that war that you support what makes your voice mean a damn thing?????”
I guess some folks are born made to wave the flag…
August 14th, 2007 at 2:01 pmComment by RemoveBush,
You are aware that Republicans get a majority of the military vote, are you not?….So why then are only anti-war opinions acceptable from non-vets?
Makes no sense.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:02 pmUm….Yes they do.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
I guess I sometimes forget that guys like Ringo actually look UP to Dubya.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:03 pmRingo, you are aware that Bush is allowing Rove to cut and run while our soldiers burn under the Iraqi sun?
Makes no sense to let one of the architects to run free while the job isn’t done.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:04 pm“You are aware that Republicans get a majority of the military vote, are you not?….So why then are only anti-war opinions acceptable from non-vets?
Makes no sense.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 2:02 pm”
That is really a falsehood……
http://www.leanleft.com/archives/2004/02/13/2323/
“According to Peter Feaver, a Duke University political scientist, veterans constitute 19 percent of the American public. A 4-year-old study by Feaver concluded that 37 percent of them were Republicans, 31 percent were Democrats and the rest were divided among independents, minor parties and political nonparticipants.
In the 2000 election, veterans leaned solidly Republican, unhappy with President Bill Clinton’s sex scandal and his handling of foreign affairs. Now, however, “that appeal has receded a little bit,†Feaver said. “Veterans are not as prone to be Republicans as four years ago.—
August 14th, 2007 at 2:05 pmKOS is a Nazi. He should be holding Hillary and company to task for letting Rove ever defeat them over the war. But conspiracy theories are such a better sell in the ignorant, left-wing blog community.
One thing Rove said is spot on – Hillary is a fatally flawed candidate. AND after the fawning and gushing by the MSM, the right-wing will go for the throat, exploit the war (again) and win the 2008 election.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:06 pmWhat should be the merc/soldier ratio? Why should we be paying private companies when we should be fighting the war of our generation (according to Bush).
Rove flies and doesn’t account for his lies.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:07 pmOld Hack, you said
for the life of me, I cannot figure out your point. I ws talking about Kos being called a traitor and limpwristed. I was grateful that he did not swallow the crap coming from the right. What did you think I was referring to?
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as for Ringo, low IQs are not something to be proud of in the game of Life, try as you might. The same goes for a total lack of knowledge.
Currently, there are more US mercenaries fighting in IraqNam than US soldiers. The problem is that they are out of control, not led by civilian DOD or military leaders. They kill indecriminently, they rape, they attack innocent Iraqis and they appear to be involved in the loss of billions of dollars in US currency and worse.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:07 pmBlackwater is an evil institution, supported by Rummie and Bush. My real fear is that they are using IraqNam as a practice, training ground. For more domestic locations.
Ringo loves Rove.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:08 pmbet he eats beans around the campfire, too.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:10 pm#43, I dont really get the logic you’re going for with that post, but basically the pro-war sect gets off on calling people that want out of this desert clusterf@ck “weak”, “cut and runners”, etc.
If you think this is truly a necessary global war, that this is a clash between Western Civilization vs. the “Islamofascists” who will come to this country and murder our families if we pull out of Iraq, then you are an enormous pussy for standing on the sidelines.
You’re kind of like the little friend at the bar that goads on the fight, but then stands way back holding someone’s jacket.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:10 pmComment by Hillary is a Communist — August 14, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
I’m a little shaky on this issue. Based on most textbook definitions of communism how Does Hillary Clinton fit in?
August 14th, 2007 at 2:11 pmRingo loves Rove.
Comment by hellinabucket
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C’mon Helen, you can do better than that can’t you?
August 14th, 2007 at 2:11 pmIf you were here I’d smack you hard.
Comment by Ringo
And if you were here, I’d hang YOUR Neocon ass from a bridge!
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August 14th, 2007 at 2:11 pmI’m talking about you being aligned with “the left”
did you not see the democrats line up with Bush to create havod here giving immigrants here a free pass and letting them persist in criminal activity?
they’re instituting slave labor in America the NAU
there is nothing democratic about how the democrats or “the left” has done since they were given power.
they’re still trying to brag about the minimum wage! why did they raise the wage? because of INFLATION created by the republicans which basically just puts us further in the whole. rather then raise the wage why not fight for lower drug costs? lower gas prices? lower home mortgages?
They’re not fighting for you and you’re not seeing the truth.
All thinkprogress.org does is tell you how bad “the right” is.
THERE IS NO LEFT AND RIGHT! WE are all AMERICANS
we have no chance if we continue to let them divide and conquer us
THATS MY POINT
gravel08.us
August 14th, 2007 at 2:12 pmIf you were here I’d smack you hard.
Comment by Ringo
Another empty neocon chickenhawk threat…
You’re a pansy coward ringo.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:14 pm“Here’s my new idea: if you’re not a veteran, your pro-war opinions don’t count for SH*T!!!
Comment by Vet
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My father is also a vet and he supports the war and voted for Bush.
Which vet should I listen to, you or my father?
August 14th, 2007 at 2:15 pmeasily better. What say you Ringo. You standing behind GW’s decision to let Rove flee? You think that all the hype that spewed thru this groups megaphone was true? Then shouldn’t the chief architect see it through?
Stand up Ringo and proclaim your love.
Ringo love Rove. Rove loves to run. Ringo accepts that. Soldiers have to stay. Ringo doesn’t care. Ringo flip flops.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:16 pmHow old are you Hellen?
August 14th, 2007 at 2:17 pmall of you people are cowards. I’m providing real questions here and rather then having an honest debate you go after the idiot cause he’s an easy target.
STAND UP AND BE COUNTED OR SHUT UP!
SAY SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY MEANS SOMETHING!
August 14th, 2007 at 2:18 pm“My father is also a vet and he supports the war and voted for Bush.
Which vet should I listen to, you or my father?
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 2:15 pm”
You can LISTEN, but you can’t SPEAK!!!!
Not all vets are that smart……
Some will blindly follow their (Heir) leader off the cliff without asking questions…..
I don’t know your father, but this may be the case…..
After all…… A soldier knows that HE cannot build a nation……. That is what Bush is asking our soldiers to do……
August 14th, 2007 at 2:18 pmSAY SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY MEANS SOMETHING!
Comment by old hack
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Sod off Swampy!
August 14th, 2007 at 2:19 pmWhich vet should I listen to, you or my father?
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 2:15 pm
You listen to both of them. You do your own research. You make your own decision.
You don’t blindly follow whoever scares you the most.
Easy as that.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:19 pmBy the way Ringo…..
I am NOT attacking your father……
Simply pointing out FACTS!!!
August 14th, 2007 at 2:19 pmMy father is also a vet and he supports the war and voted for Bush.
Which vet should I listen to, you or my father?
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 2:15 pm
Your dad is entitled to his opinion and I consider it valid, despite my own stance against the war.
My problem is with chickenhawks who don’t serve our nation if they truly believe we’re in this biblical war of good vs. evil.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:21 pmstill going after the little guy eh? just completly avoid my confronting you with your own hypocrisy?
truly you are the problem not them because you refuse to put up any kind of genuine fight. Just prisoners talking in the yard about the guards. Fine! DO Nothing. YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU GET!
I’m going to haight street today to cause a scene. what are you doing to fight for a real democracy?
thats what I thought. Just trolls sitting under the bridge.
pathetic.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:26 pmCan’t actually answer a question Ringo. Do you support Bush when he allows one of the architects of the quagmire in Iraq to run when our soldiers have to stay?
Can you man up and make a stand? So far you are deserving of the sophmoric phrase “Ringo loves Rove” and until you locate your spine and stand for or against this act I see no reason to alter it.
Why can Rove say Bon jour when our soldiers are doing a 4th tour?
August 14th, 2007 at 2:27 pmMy father is also a vet and he supports the war and voted for Bush. Which vet should I listen to, you or my father?
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 2:15 pm
When you go to Iraq, then your chickenhawk opinion won’t be such hypocrisy. Till then, your father is entitled to his opinion, as are you. The difference is that your opinion makes you a hypocrite!
August 14th, 2007 at 2:27 pmAnd Democrats see defeat in Iraq as a great political tool to beat Republicans.
Comment by Ringo
No, the Repugs beat themselves by STARTING the illegal war and continuing occupation!
And they are the ones who hate the troops as well as the rest of us vets in their blatant disregard for our benefits, the covder-up of Tillman and the stop-loss backdoor draft and the extended tours.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:27 pmRingo? you haven’t found your spine yet. C’mon, all your rants show you support letting this weasel run while the jobs not done. But yet you can’t find the words.
You lack real conviction. You lack real insight.
Ringo loves Rove.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:37 pmThis is our country and this is what we have to work with. Unfortunately, we have to play by their rules now or we’ll get beat again.
Comment by Steve — August 14, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
that’s only if you give up. they have all but destroyed themselves, dont’ buy into their neandertal bull.
If you were here I’d smack you hard.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
Yes, you’d use both lips, wouldn’t you, sissy?
“Here’s my new idea: if you’re not a veteran, your pro-war opinions don’t count for SH*T!!!
Comment by Vet
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Um….Yes they do.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
Your ideas certainly count for shit.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:53 pm“Screw you” Markos!
August 14th, 2007 at 3:22 pmMarkos is the idiot who wished death for Pat Tillman and all his mercenary buddies
August 14th, 2007 at 3:24 pmBob, your a little hurt about this aren’t you. It can all be corrected with calling for Rove to stay.
C’mon don’t you think he should have the same convictions he’s been asking our country to have?
August 14th, 2007 at 3:44 pmNo he’s not.
He’s the guy who actually served in the military and found it repulsive that private mercenaries … who get paid six figures … who have to answer to no one … who have been responsible for rapes and murders … who have stolen millions from American taxpayers … and who have no concern about anything other than killing for money … were held up as “heroes” when they were killed.
They’re not heroes.
The heroes are the families who find a way to make it through never-ending deployments that are continually extended … the ones who only earn $20K a year for serving their country … who have been used as props by Bush and Co. for the past five years … whose pay increases were opposed by Bush and the GOP … whose funerals Bush doesn’t bother to attend …
THOSE are the heroes.
It’s not too surprising that wingnuts like you are too stupid to understand that fact.
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August 14th, 2007 at 3:52 pmwell said MD. How can Bush supporters ignore this is beyond me.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:57 pmThanks.
Because reality never gets in the way of their stupidity.
It’s the same reason they think criticism of Bush = criticism of America.
It’s the same reason they think Islamic radicalism is evil, but their own Christian radicalism is great.
It’s the same reason they ignore every single fact that shows Iraq is a complete mess, and latch on to a comment by a guy like Bill Kristol (who never served and has never talked to your average Iraqi citizen) that says everything is just peachy.
It’s the same reason they keep wanting to “give it six months” even though they made the same “give it six months” plea 18 months ago.
For them, what’s good for the party is much, much more important than doing what is good for the country.
**sigh**
August 14th, 2007 at 4:09 pmThe republican party is a shell of it’s former self and will nothing more than a bad memory if the radical elements keep pushing us toward the abyss.
August 14th, 2007 at 4:14 pmHere’s my new idea: if you’re not a veteran, your pro-war opinions don’t count for SH*T!!!
LOL! But the anti-war opinions still count, right? What a load of bollocks.
“If you’re not a cop, your opinions regarding police brutality don’t count for SH*T!!!”
“If you’re not a politician, your opinions regarding our country’s foreign and domestic policies don’t count for SH*T!!!”
“If you’re not a congressman, your opinions regarding our system of laws don’t count for SH*T!!!”
See how flawed this “if you aren’t or have never been in the military, your opinions regarding the war don’t count” argument is?
I have not served and I will not serve, but my arguments for or against the war are still as good as yours.
August 14th, 2007 at 5:04 pmOnly if you base your arguments on fact Bob. Otherwise it’s just an opinion that holds nothing more than your emotions.
August 14th, 2007 at 5:18 pm“I think [ROVE] saw [THE "WAR" IN IRAQ] as a great way to win some elections, let’s go with it,”
Markos said. “He definitely was a chief architect in selling the war…”
THANK YOU! ROVE’S ROLE WAS IN THE TIMING OF THE IRAQ-INVASION…
1) THE “RESOLUTION,” REMEMBER MAX CLELAND; SLANDERED… AMERICAN HERO! –2002 MIDTERMS–
2) THE “MISSION,” STAYIN’-THE-COURSE, ET. AL., CALLED JOHN KERRY “FLIP-FLOPPER…” –2004 ELECTIONS–
THE “WAR,” OR PERMANENT-OCCUPATION OF IRAQ WAS DICK CHENEY & THE NEOCONS WET-DREAM, BUSH WAS UP-FOR-IT, BUT,
THE WHOLE IRAQ WAR WAS POLITICALLY-TIMED BY KARL ROVE — TO WIN ELECTIONS!
August 14th, 2007 at 9:23 pm“Markos said. “He definitely was a chief architect in selling the war.”
All I can say is good riddance to this dark “architect”, may justice come to call for you swiftly.
August 15th, 2007 at 1:07 am“That is really a falsehood……
http://www.leanleft.com/archives/2004/02/13/2323/
“According to Peter Feaver, a Duke University political scientist, veterans constitute 19 percent of the American public. A 4-year-old study by Feaver concluded that 37 percent of them were Republicans, 31 percent were Democrats and the rest were divided among independents, minor parties and political nonparticipants.
In the 2000 election, veterans leaned solidly Republican, unhappy with President Bill Clinton’s sex scandal and his handling of foreign affairs. Now, however, “that appeal has receded a little bit,†Feaver said. “Veterans are not as prone to be Republicans as four years ago.â€â€
Comment by RemoveBush — August 14, 2007 @ 2:05 pm”
OK, Ringo states that the military votes more Republican than Democratic, and you say that is a falsehood. Then you go on to quote studies which support Ringo’s statement.
No wonder they call you the “kook fringe”. When the statistics don’t support your arguments, you just pretend that they do.
August 15th, 2007 at 1:45 amComment by MD — August 14, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Good stuff, MD!
August 15th, 2007 at 1:56 am