The Reviews Are In: Major Papers Cast Rove’s Record As Failure
The Reviews Are In: Major Papers Cast Rove’s Record As Failure
In the wake of Karl Rove’s resignation yesterday, television talking heads were quick to heap praise on the political strategist, lauding him as a “superstar,” “the mastermind,” and “Boy Genius.”
But this morning, major print outlets exhibited a more careful analysis of Rove’s record of false predictions, scandal, and his failed attempts to engineer a “permanent Republican majority.” In both analysis and editorial pieces today, major papers slammed Rove’s legacy:
Analysis
[Rove] is quitting his White House job with little likelihood that the political agenda he set will be fulfilled…more recent attempts at major changes in the law — overhauling the Social Security and immigration systems — failed. … Rove’s vision of an enduring Republican majority was dealt a blow by defeats in congressional elections last November. [Bloomberg]
[F]ew people — including his Republican allies — believe Rove succeeded in what he set as his ultimate goal: creating a long-lasting GOP majority in the country. [Washington Post]
Mr. Rove leaves the White House anything but victorious. His legendary reputation…was seriously diminished by the Republican defeats of 2006. He is blamed in Republican circles for many of the political problems President Bush has suffered in a difficult second term. [New York Times]
Strategist Karl Rove’s departure from the White House may signal the official end of an era of ambition. … US political realignment, if it’s happening, appears to favor Democrats. And today, the administration’s domestic agenda is at best stalled — and at worst gone with the wind. [Christian Science-Monitor]
Karl Rove leaves the White House unbowed and unindicted, but also under investigation and unsuccessful in meeting a goal even more ambitious than navigating his friend to the Oval Office. For Rove, the even-bigger picture has been establishing a durable Republican majority. [Austin American-Statesman]
Editorials
The GOP’s wipeout in 2006 would suggest that Mr. Rove did not achieve this goal, notwithstanding his brave parting words about Republican victory in 2008. And if the manufactured polarization of the Bush-Rove years did not even serve its ostensible purpose, then what was the good of it? [Washington Post]
Mr. Rove has stonewalled Congress’s legitimate efforts to investigate. … Rove failed his own party, as well as the American people, when he counseled President Bush to turn every serious policy debate — Social Security, the war in Iraq, even terrorism — into one more political dogfight. [New York Times]
[I]t’s hard to believe he’d be going home if his grand vision of Republicans forever had held together instead of imploding. [Chicago Sun-Times]
[T]he politics of polarization that once served President Bush so well eventually undermined his quest for a legacy of achievement in office, while deflating Rove’s own dream of a Republican ascendancy at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue. On Monday, Rove quit while he was behind. [Los Angeles Times]
Fortunately, reality finally is catching up with Karl Rove. Lincoln famously said that you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all the people all the time. Rove has pushed those boundaries, but ultimately, he could not escape them. [Salt Lake Tribune]
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I refuse to applaud pundits for reporting reality.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:04 pmPoor Karl. Don’t malign him too much.
1. GDumbya is the one who demonstrated such poor judgement in giving him a policy role and keeping him around too long.
2. Remember, Karl was only an advisor — he could only do so much with the material he was given. Even a wizard could not make a silk purse out of the sow’s ear that is GDumbya.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:06 pmMajor liberal papers. I would worry if they said he was a success. You may get a second opinion from Algore or John F’n Kerry.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:06 pmRove help defeat Gore and Kerry. He won the White House for Bush twice!!! His only loss was the ‘06 House and Senate. Which all second term Presidents lose a number of members on their side. He kicked democrat butt all over Washington.
Who are you progressives going after next???
August 14th, 2007 at 2:07 pmOh sure, start complaining about toxic sludge Rove now.
Buncha Johnny-come-lately Bushbots.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:08 pmI think it is a mistake to think Rove is going to be gone. I think he is a visible drag with too big a cloud over his head that is giving too much negative attention to this administration. I think he is just putting on a show of leaving so he can go ‘underground’ where he will still be directing things and working his nasty magic out of the view of the public and MSM and without any accountability whatsoever (not that he has had any accountablilty up to this point). He will be invisible and untouchable. He is the king of slime and he isn’t going away. Not really.. He will just be free to do even worse from behind the scenes. There will be no records left behind and he will be out of the reach of Congress.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:11 pmMy 2 cents..
Rove leaves the White House as a successful Republican operative. The vision was always petty, never grand, and it has been realized in many ways.
The welfare state is shattered and bankrupt.
The wealth of the country has been dramatically concentrated into the hands of ruthless parasites.
The Democrats and working people will have to bear international and domestic costs, while the benefits have been safely salted away.
Basically (and we’ve seen this before), every easy Republican destructive act will require painful, expensive, laborious reconstruction. Rove did his job well, and Halliburton says thank you very much.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:12 pmHe will be Karl the Covert.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:12 pmRove cut and ran before the mission was accomplished.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:13 pmHe’s a defeatist who wants America to fail by quitting before the job was done.
That’s funny. How could all of those papers be reporting such terrible things about Rove when Fox News says that he will be missed and his departure might hurt the stock market?
Fox News wouldn’t lie, would they?
See Starve The Beast for a practical plan to sap Fox News of its power.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:13 pmMajor liberal papers. I would worry if they said he was a success. You may get a second opinion from Algore or John F’n Kerry. Comment by Frank J — August 14, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
What a stupid statement - a Major Liberal Paper!!! BAHAHAAHA
And the editorials are liberal in any Major Paper? Since when?
You’re a fringe lunatic - no wonder your political party is so unpopular!
You’re exactly the kind of failure these papers are talking about.
Rude, divisive, corrosive, hateful and ignorant.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:14 pmThe Reviews Are In: Major Papers Cast Rove’s Record As Failure - - Oh, that’s because all media has a liberal bias. Uh huh, that includes the Salt Lake (UT) Tribune.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:14 pmComment by Arctic Surfer August 14, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
Excellent.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:14 pmThank you.
When your overall world view is based on falsehoods, eventually reality (with its well known liberal bias) has a way of coming back to bite you in the butt.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:14 pmKarl Rove: The man who won elections and lost America.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:15 pmComment by Frank J ,
August 14th, 2007 at 2:15 pmIt isn’t all just about winning, its how you win. The Swift Boating of Kerry for example, was a rove like thing to do. We, as a country end up paying a huge price by getting a shoddy product sold with perfidy. Rove, will fade away a bitter, mean, old man.
Comment by JG — August 14, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
I was always surprised to see him inside the White House, taking a public paycheck. It always seemed that he would be more effective operating as you described.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:19 pmComment by MayAllahSmiteLibs.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:21 pmCute, another right wing hate speech troll wishing his fellow Americans be killed by terrorists, who gives a phony email address, that of AirAmerica.
Major liberal papers. I would worry if they said he was a success. You may get a second opinion from Algore or John F’n Kerry.
Comment by Frank J
I can’t believe people are still buying into the liberal media conspiracy myth. Then again Rush claims to have a truth detector in his cranium.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:22 pm17. MayAllahSmiteLibs
August 14th, 2007 at 2:22 pm* * *
Proof that it’s possible to type from the fetal position.
#4-
August 14th, 2007 at 2:24 pmWe’ll still be holding his traitorous feet to the flames along with the Administration that helped him to illegally politicize practically every branch of government. If you can’t see that this power hungry egoist has done long term damage to your party then I can only conclude that you’ve had a little too much of the kool-ade yourself. Boy Genius? BWAHAHAHA!!
Try neocon chickenhawk scumbag and you’d be starting to get a little warmer.
I listened to Thom Hartmann’s show this morning. He was covering all the totally sleazy things Karl Rove has done surrounding every election going back to a couple of elections in Texas prior to the 2000 election. It was an impressive list of sleaze. And, that is all that is just what is known. I have to wonder about all that has not yet been proven or is still unknown. This man doesn’t seem to have a shred of decency or honor in his body. There doesn’t seem to be any depths to which he will not sink in order ‘to win’. Today was a very good show for Hartmann. He also had an interview with Dan Rather about his investigative special on elections and with Max Blumenthal.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:24 pmEvil collapses under it’s own weight, thank God!
August 14th, 2007 at 2:24 pmThe only way a loser like T-Blossom can have even a smell of self respect is to continually out-do his last horrible set of actions with another set that is even worse.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:25 pmThat way he feels as if he must have had some sort of self respect at some point in the past ’cause he could have done something much worse, but didn’t.
He’s just not sure exactly when that might have been, or where it went.
(singing) — “What a difference a day makes…twenty-four little hours…”
Yesterday’s reaction was the kind of reaction one has when one dies suddenly. I suspect that because Rove announced his resignation with virtually no warning, the papers were a bit hesitant to “pile on” — you know, just in case something had happened to flatten him.
By today, they see he is still Rove as usual.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:25 pmThis PROVES 100% that the media is…duh, LIBERAL! No fanatical liberal (even those who are trained to lie pathologically) can dispute this fact if ALL major newspapers in their headlines as well as editorials damn Rove. Comment by MayAllahSmiteLibs — August 14, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
WTF? No ‘fanatical liberal’ can dispute this? That’s an idiotic sentence!
You’re on a progressive website - if you want a ‘fanatical liberal’, go to the communist party website - idiot!
As for this proving? What does it prove? That despite the major parties being complete republican wh’res (it helps most are now owned by republican partisan wh’res), they still recognize the complete failure of the new GOP MAJORITY!
Yet here you are 23% proving exactly how stupid you are!
Actually, here’s what Rove did for Bush and the US:
-two-terms for GW Bush in TX
Comment by MayAllahSmiteLibs — August 14, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
And nearly bankrupted it.
-two-terms for him in the WH Comment by MayAllahSmiteLibs — August 14, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
First one stolen by electioneering, second one by immoral swiftboating and screaming about terrorists gonna kill us. All of which has now so alienated the american public that Republicans are the least popular they’ve been in almost 100 years!
-helped move Supreme Court to the center-right, protecting it from liberals who legislate from the bench Comment by MayAllahSmiteLibs — August 14, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
The Supreme Court was center right before Bush, now they’re FAR-RIGHT just like you - LUNATIC!
-tax cuts which saved the US from the CLINTON-GORE RECESSION Comment by MayAllahSmiteLibs — August 14, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT AN IDIOT!!!!! The recession didn’t start until after Bush was in office - FOOL!!!! And IT WAS THE SECOND WORST RECESSION IN A CENTURY AND THE SECOND WORST RECOVERY THANKS TO THOSE STUPID TAX CUTS!!!
-successful liberation of Iraq/Afghanistan which resulted in ZERO attacks domestically Comment by MayAllahSmiteLibs — August 14, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
BHAAHAHAHA, you call either country SUCCESSFUL!!!
ZERO ATTACKS? What about the anthrax?
You’re really STUPID Unicorn boy!
August 14th, 2007 at 2:25 pm“Librul” media my @ss.
David Frum is slamming Rove today, and if you know anything, you’d know Frum is no “Librul”.
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2007/ 08/ 14/ opinion/ 14frum.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
August 14th, 2007 at 2:28 pmRove blew it on the immigration issue and devived the Republican party.
My guess is that Bush asked him to leave because of it.
Rove is smart, but like most big-wigs, not as smart as he thinks.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:29 pmdevived = divided
oy
August 14th, 2007 at 2:29 pm“protecting it from liberals who legislate from the bench”
Comment by MayAllahSmiteLibs — August 14, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
By installing conservatives who legislate from the bench. Alito and Roberts have shown everybody how in favor they are of expanding presidential power and shutting down everybody else. Wonder if they will still feel that way when a Democrat enters the White House a year from January?
August 14th, 2007 at 2:31 pmRove blew it on the immigration issue and devived the Republican party.
My guess is that Bush asked him to leave because of it.
Rove is smart, but like most big-wigs, not as smart as he thinks.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
Rove BLEW IT ON EVERY ISSUE!!!! You’re just too partisan and stupid to notice most of his failures!
He’s not smart, he’s just more malicious and has fewer morals than most people. He was just willing to be illegal and unethical beyond what most Republicans would do - WHICH SAYS A LOT!
August 14th, 2007 at 2:31 pmmayallahsmitelibs is of course Mr P.
-two-terms for GW Bush in TX [The governor in TX does little actual work, its the LT. governor that does. Rove knew that]
-two-terms for him in the WH [Rove was involved in caging votes]
-helped move Supreme Court to the center-right, protecting it from liberals who legislate from the bench [federalists are not conservative]
-tax cuts which saved the US from the CLINTON-GORE RECESSION [The boom years for business was 1996-200o which 2/3 of business paid no taxes, the deficit has mushroomed under Roves genius. The sub-prime mess occured under Roves genius]
-successful liberation of Iraq/Afghanistan which resulted in ZERO attacks domestically [There were no attacks for years before Bush. The attack on America occured during Roves genius]
August 14th, 2007 at 2:32 pmComment by MayAllahloveMrPee
“protecting it from liberals who legislate from the benchâ€
Comment by MayAllahSmiteLibs — August 14, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
Republican Judges are almost twice as likely as Democratic ones to legislate from the bench (YES IT IS A COMPILED STATISTIC).
More classic republican PROJECTIONS!!! BORING!!!
August 14th, 2007 at 2:32 pm(YES IT IS A COMPILED STATISTIC).
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus
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Yes, I’m sure it is.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:34 pmI figured out the glitch in ThinkProgress’s software. The more work you put into a post; the more likely it is not to be posted.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:35 pm“I figured out the glitch in ThinkProgress’s software. The more work you put into a post; the more likely it is not to be posted.
Comment by paul — August 14, 2007 @ 2:35 pm”
Sounds about right!!!
August 14th, 2007 at 2:37 pmNo. 28, OxyCon:
Thanks for the link.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:38 pmThe politics of division and the politics of smear-and-fear always have a short shelf life. People eventually do come to their senses. KKKarl has outlived his usefulness.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:38 pmRove’s ultimate goal was to create a permanent Republican majority, and permanent Republican power. He failed to understand the first rule of power — use it wisely, or it will bite you in the butt.
Unfortunately, Rove and his army were so consumed by hubris that they began operating in full “ha ha can’t touch us!” mode. Chinks in the armor started appearing when a critic of the regime had his CIA agent wife outed, when U.S. Attorneys started losing their jobs because of their unwillingness to go along with unethical voter fraud accusations, when voter caging started rearing its ugly head, and when they thumbed their collective noses at Congress. The smoke and mirrors started fading as their little war got ugly.
Hopefully this will be a valuable history lesson for Americans for generations to come.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:39 pmComment by paul — August 14, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
I hear ya man.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:39 pmRove is allowed to run free. Bush doesn’t hold his own cabinet to the same standard that he wants to hold the US Military to.
Rove runs away. Our soldiers have to stay.
Ringo loves Rove.
Grow a spine Ringo and show how letting Rove leave is the right thing to do when keeping soldiers in Iraq is also the right thing to do.
Grow a pair Ringo.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:40 pmI figured out the glitch in ThinkProgress’s software. The more work you put into a post; the more likely it is not to be posted.
Comment by paul — August 14, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
So that’s it! I suspected that was the case. Obviously, I need to do less research, less thinking, and more posting of simple-minded brain f*rts.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:41 pmCaption:
“How could I have been soooo stupid?”
August 14th, 2007 at 2:42 pmComment by MayAllahSmiteLibs — August 14, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
You are fantastically delusional, aren’t you?
-two-terms for GW Bush in TX
-two-terms for him in the WH
These are terrible outcomes for the country, as time will tell.
-helped move Supreme Court to the center-right, protecting it from liberals who legislate from the bench
I’m sure you don’t know what a “strict constructionist judge” is. Although widely hailed as one who obeys the original construction of the Constitution (thereby refusing to legislate from the bench), if the term has anything to do with legislating from the bench, it is that such a judge is more likely to write law that is harsher than that enacted by the legislature. According to William Rehnquist, who replied to a query from Richard Nixon, a strict constructionist is a judge that is more likely to rule against criminal defendants and civil rights plaintiffs.
-successful liberation of Iraq/Afghanistan which resulted in ZERO attacks domestically
Aren’t you forgetting the anthrax attacks? They targeted newspapers and Congressmen, and resulted in 5(?) deaths. Those were all domestic attacks. And, I must say, there is no evidence that either Iraq or Afghanistan currently enjoy such a thing as “successful liberation.”
August 14th, 2007 at 2:43 pmNothing like slinking away from you job in tears while the very thing, Bush success and Republican political dominance are but pipe dreams.
He’s back to being the loser he was before he was ripped from a life of obscurity by the vile and repellent Poppy Bush.
Congrats Poppy, your choice of viper early on has ruined your family name and destroyed your sons legacy.
-GSD
August 14th, 2007 at 2:43 pmI figured out the glitch in ThinkProgress’s software. The more work you put into a post; the more likely it is not to be posted.
Comment by paul — August 14, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
so my well thought out, researched, multiple paragraph posts don’t make it, but schizo Mr.P’s HeyOOOoooOOOooo does?
Huh.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:45 pmYes, I’m sure it is.
Comment by Ringo — August 14, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
A Snarky remark from you - how surprising…
August 14th, 2007 at 2:45 pmAren’t you forgetting the anthrax attacks? They targeted newspapers and Congressmen, and resulted in 5(?) deaths. Those were all domestic attacks. And, I must say, there is no evidence that either Iraq or Afghanistan currently enjoy such a thing as “successful liberation.â€
Comment by pete — August 14, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
Let’s not forget about the Virginia/Maryland/Washington DC sniper attacks of innocent people by two guys and a car trunk. Those were terrorist attacks in every sense of the word — mindless killing of people at random, clearly intended to inspire terror and fear. We don’t call them “terrorist attacks” for the same reason that we have quit calling Timothy McVeigh’s exploding the Murrah Building in OK City a “terrorist attack”. The propaganda machine has decreed that it’s only a terrorist attack if Muslims do it.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:50 pmThese writers first shoot from the hip, then on second or third though, think better. Why not await writing until your perceptions have clarity and the momentary rush to say something passes. It is getting to the point where we can all be journalists and columnists. Take that!
August 14th, 2007 at 2:53 pmRingo??Ringo? you haven’t found your spine yet. C’mon, all your rants show you support letting this weasel run while the jobs not done. But yet you can’t find the words.
You lack real conviction. You lack real insight.
Ringo loves Rove.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:54 pm“We don’t call them “terrorist attacks†for the same reason that we have quit calling Timothy McVeigh’s exploding the Murrah Building in OK City a “terrorist attackâ€. The propaganda machine has decreed that it’s only a terrorist attack if Muslims do it.
Comment by missmolly — August 14, 2007 @ 2:50 pm”
OK….. I know what you meant, but I really need to correct your statement..
Tim McVeigh was a patsy, like Oswald……
- Could Tim plant explosives on columns in the building, which the bomb squad had to remove after the explossion of the van?
- Could Tim call all the federal agents that morning and tell them not to come to work?
- Could Tim have the Bomb squad running similar exorcises just down the road, so they could launch into action (Just like on 9*11)????
August 14th, 2007 at 2:56 pmSorry for the double post….
August 14th, 2007 at 2:56 pmI laugh at comments like 3 and 4. These Republican loyalists are standing on the tracks with a train barrelling down on them, horn screaming, and they still don’t see it coming.
August 14th, 2007 at 2:57 pm*****BREAKING NEWS****
August 14th, 2007 at 2:57 pm“The Reviews Are In: Major Papers Cast Rove’s Record As Failure”
Satyam - WOW!!!! Who would have thought the NYT, et al. would be critical of Karl Rove?? I AM shocked!! What would be news is IF Progs didn’t rely on leftard liberal print media….but that would be like asking you to give up tofu or latte….
Valiant Venus, long time no see. So do you believe that Rove can be justified in deserting the Bush administration while we are in the fight of our generation with Terrrorism? Doesn’t it seem like a flip flop to allow Rove to Cut and Run while our soldiers are doing a 4th tour of duty against dead enders?
Freedom is messy but it should be cleaned up by the ones who made the mess. Or that doesn’t apply to this group.
I’m looking forward to your answer.
Ringo can’t be found.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:01 pmIt’s OK to unload on Karly now, cause when he’s gone, they’ll be nobody to orchestrate the retaliations against the critics.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:01 pmOh crap. Forgot about Darth.
Oh well, unload anyhooo,, damn the darths, full speed ahead!
Satyam - WOW!!!! Who would have thought the NYT, et al. would be critical of Karl Rove?? I AM shocked!! Comment by valiant venus — August 14, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
You SHOULD BE!!! They carry so much water for Bush, that Murdoch wants to BUY THEM!!!
What would be news is IF Progs didn’t rely on leftard liberal print media….but that would be like asking you to give up tofu or latte….
Comment by valiant venus — August 14, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Why do you hate latte and tofu so much? You can’t be lactose intolerant - you’re a cow?
August 14th, 2007 at 3:02 pmDon’t count Rove out. Twit Romney needs a tactician for his upcoming run against the first serious woman candidate for president. Just think…all the groundwork is already done…Whitewater, TravelGate, Vice Foster’s death, is she a Lesbian?, does she show too much cleavage, did she snub the Gold Star Mothers… It’s all perfect Rove fodder for yet another example that, as Don Henley said (”Dirty Laundry,” 1981 or 82), “we all know that cwap is king…we need dirty laundry!”
August 14th, 2007 at 3:02 pmComment by valiant venus — August 14, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
MA: blah blah blah - librul media tired old lie - blah blah blah - attack the messenger blah blah blah. *yawn*.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:06 pmWhy do you hate latte and tofu so much? You can’t be lactose intolerant - you’re a cow?
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 14, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
Nahhh, not a cow. Might Aphrodite is more like a nervous, anorexic chihuahua than a heffer.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:07 pmNYT, LAT, WAPO….wow, quite the lineup of historically non-partisan papers. A real eye-opener.
How about another bombshell thread entitled: ‘Leading Liberal Politicians Cast Rove’s Record as Failure.’
August 14th, 2007 at 3:08 pmDear helen - I predict Rove will join the Thompson campaign - - thus continuing a strong National Security stance. Re: National Security - Which side of the flip are Barack and Hillary on this week??
August 14th, 2007 at 3:09 pmwe need dirty laundry!â€
Its going to be mighty tough to get Hillary’s records, considering she just decided to seal them until after the election. What does she have to hide?
August 14th, 2007 at 3:10 pmWhat would be news is IF Progs didn’t rely on leftard liberal print media….but that would be like asking you to give up tofu or latte….
Comment by valiant venus
Valiant you admitted coming here and arguing just for arguments sake. Thus your posts have no real meaning. You are still using the same tired method or projecting your baseless opinion on others.
The same tired schtick Karl used. At least he realized it was time to give up the blame game ghost.
May I suggest you do the same?
August 14th, 2007 at 3:10 pmAuntie Valiant Venus is back! YAY!
You tell ‘em, Auntie Valiant Venus! All liberals eat tofu! All liberals drink lattes!
Please tell us some more made-up stories, Auntie Valiant Venus! Like the Mena Mafia made-up story, or the Max Cleland blew himself up made-up story.
Your made-up stories are the best, Auntie Valiant Venus!
August 14th, 2007 at 3:10 pmFred Thompson - “dumb but friendly” as Nixon put it, fed information back to Nixon on the Watergate investigation.
Why not run Thompson and Ollie North on the “the Constitution is just a piece of paper” ticket?
Oh and the Hunt for Red October was just a story - not something that a national security candidacy can be built on.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:14 pmDear helen - I predict Rove will join the Thompson campaign - - thus continuing a strong National Security stance.
Please. Politicians don’t secure the Nation. The working man does. The working man is the Police, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, The Border Patrol.
V V seems to think some politician is gonna don a cape and fly to her rescue.
Good luck with that.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:16 pmChicago Tribune’s editorial on Mr. Rove titled “Cut and Run Karl has had enough” “Bush strategist leaving a mess to be cleaned up”
The Tribune leans more right than Rush Limbaugh.
Ringo runs just like Rove.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:17 pmValiant, you didn’t answer the question either. I don’t care where Karl is going, I’m wanting to know if you accept that he’s running away from the fight of our generation?
I hope he attaches himself in some way to the Thompson campaign. After the dirty laundry is aired on what mr. rove is all about he’ll bring the correct spotlight on the next republican trying to fear us into a direction that isn’t in the country’s best interest.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:20 pmI want to say What are they up to? As the fascist right media have turned everything into a fabricated fairytale what can we believe?
August 14th, 2007 at 3:22 pmWill continue to look at international news.
but that would be like asking you to give up tofu or latte….
Comment by valiant venus — August 14, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Withdrawal from that crystal meth has really made you cranky. Attacking tofu and lattes … I suppose your kicking puppies and kittens too. Maybe you should have stayed in rehab. Oh but I guess you were gaining too much weight and made a break for it. Poor haggie.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:22 pmLeave it to Turdle to quote Richard “You won’t have me to kick around anymore” Nixon! While you’re at it, did you dig up that quote from JFK regarding tax cuts being good for the economy (that was in one of his lucid “non-Keynesian-Galbraith” moments…..Maybe Barack should utilize his knowledge to solve the Chicago South Side murder rate before opining about Pakistan….
Seriously, I think a fun run would be Thompson v. Hillary……
August 14th, 2007 at 3:24 pmHow about another bombshell thread entitled: ‘Leading Liberal Politicians Cast Rove’s Record as Failure.’
Comment by Quint — August 14, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
Appearing on Fox Snooze at any moment.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:25 pmAnother example of winning by giving the appearance of losing. True, Karl’s vision of a permanent Republican majority (a.k.a. ONE-PARTY RULE)fell apart but that never had a real chance with the extreme pro-big business, Christian diminionists that dominate the party today. Bushco still managed to stack the courts and loot the Treasury while the going was good and continue to flout the law with near total impugnity and no apparent end in sight.
It is sad that Rove was allowed to leave the White House more or less on his own terms (allegations that he was forced out by Cheney notwithstanding); in a just world he would have been carried out in a body bag, proverbially speaking, given the damage Rove enabled Bush to wreak on the country and the world.
It is heartening that the press does not seem to be spinning Rove’s resignation as his early but triumphant exit from the maladministration but how differently might have things turned out had there been this level of scrutiny before the damage was done.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:25 pmIf Rove runs Fred’s campaign, are we going to be subjected to more of the phony red pickup truck? Or does Rove have more imagination than that?
August 14th, 2007 at 3:26 pmDirty little secrets, dirty little lies,
We’ve got our dirty little fingers in everybody’s pies…
We love to cut you down to size , give us dirty laundry!
August 14th, 2007 at 3:28 pmV V: “Hello, Operator, This is an emergency, Patch me thru to the White House, there is a terrorist under my bed!”
Operator: “Ma’am I can call the Police.”
V V: “No, only a Politician can help me!”
Operator: “As you wish”
V V: “Hello Whitehouse?”
WH: “Yes Ma’am”
V V: “Get me a Politician, there is a terrorist under my bed, have them fly to my home immediately!”
WH: “I’m sorry ma’am, they are at an undisclosed location”
V V: “What!?! They are supposed to come save me!!”
WH: “Sorry Ma’am, who gave you that idea?”
V V: “Me!! The TeeVee, Pundits!!”
August 14th, 2007 at 3:28 pmRove, boy genius? Mm-kay. He doesn’t look like a boy to me. IMHO he ain’t no genius either. He may be smart but he has no common sense, which has a tendency to cancel each other out. Either the guys a chicken shit quitter or he’s hiding something. Perhaps a subpoena for something entirely new and different is on the way. Something like outing a covert CIA agent perhaps. Hey, what can I say? I’m an optimist.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:28 pmDear helen - I predict he’s joining a new fight….Of course, THAT did answer your question but you were a little slow on the uptake….I did not miss your mundacity…..but thanks for playing.
Tooodles…….
August 14th, 2007 at 3:29 pmThe Reviews Are In: Major Papers Cast Rove’s Record As Failure
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Yeah. What else would you expect from the liberal media?
Oh… and it is too funny that the liberal media is being covered by a liberal blog and all of you brain-dead liberals think that this some how represents reality.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:30 pmDear helen - I predict Rove will join the Thompson campaign - - thus continuing a strong National Security stance. Re: National Security - Which side of the flip are Barack and Hillary on this week??
Comment by valiant venus — August 14, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
Fred Thompson can figure dirty tricks and deceptions out all by himself, what does he need Rove for. And you’d vote for a picture of Hitler before you’d vote for a Democrat so what do you care about Hillary or Barack.
And that National Security stance isn’t looking so good with a decimated military with Islamics sneaking across the Mexico border and changing their getting fake IDs that indicate they’re hispanic.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:30 pmDon’t go, Auntie Valiant Venus!
More made-up stories from your head!
PLEEEZE?!
August 14th, 2007 at 3:32 pmIts going to be mighty tough to get Hillary’s records, considering she just decided to seal them until after the election. What does she have to hide?
Comment by Quint — August 14, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
We’ll show you her’s if you show us the White House visitors log, the missing RNC emails, Bush’s missing military record and his drunk driving rap sheet, the complete DC madames phone list including calls made by Cheney, etc. etc. etc.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:33 pmRove help defeat Gore and Kerry. He won the White House for Bush twice!!! His only loss was the ‘06 House and Senate. Which all second term Presidents lose a number of members on their side. He kicked democrat butt all over Washington.
Comment by Johnny Swank — August 14, 2007 @ 2:07 pm
I think we have truly reached a point in our culture where “winning” is the only thing that matters. It doesn’t matter if victories come honorably, it only matters that they come at all. Rove is being lauded by his fans winning the White House — twice. Never mind that voter caging was used, that people were stopped from coming to the polls, etc. All that matters is that he “won” and how much “butt” he kicked.
I hope that when the Democrats win the White House in 2008 that they will be there to serve the country, not the party. And they will be there to do an actual job, not just to revel in their “victory” or grab as much political power as they can. We’ve had quite enough of that for the past seven years. And if the Dems put on the same show, we will have no improvement.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:34 pmOh… and it is too funny that the liberal media is being covered by a liberal blog and all of you brain-dead liberals think that this some how represents reality -A
The picture, above, says it all.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:34 pmComment by valiant venus — August 14, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
You brought up Thompson, JFK and Obama, I could give a crap since none of that is on topic at all. I guess Fred’s ‘man-smell’ is worth your vote, eh?
August 14th, 2007 at 3:35 pmThe Vile and Venereal MA is more like a Shitzu on crystal meth.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:37 pmGeorge: But haven’t we already given money to the rich? Shouldn’t we give some to the middle?
Karl: Principle, stick to Principle.
And then the sub-prime mortgage bust and the FED taxpayer bailout of the ‘free market’.
Pure Genius!!
August 14th, 2007 at 3:40 pmWhat else would you expect from the liberal media?
Comment by American — August 14, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
Funny how the “liberal media” battle cry comes out whenever your narrow far right ideology is questioned, or your heroes mocked as the crooks and/or failures they are.
Where was the “liberal media” battle cry yesterday when all the media were fawning over Rove, the Boy Genius?
Where was the “liberal media” battle cry when O’Hanlon and Pollack made their famous “back from Iraq” report?
And where was the “liberal media” battle cry when all the media were obediently spoon-feeding the White House generated lies to the American public justifying our invasion of Iraq?
When the conservatives have a REAL case for calling the media “liberal”, I’ll pay attention.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:42 pmGlad to see the snark in Valiant’s response. That’s steady even if her monicker changes. So it’s perfectly ok for Rove to jump ship while the rest have to stay the course. Embolding the terrorist with that type of cut and running Valiant.
Rove is a turd blossom. Mostly turd and your support of this turd is evident in your ability to accept his sh!t.
You don’t dissapoint me Valiant. You’re just accepting so much less than what this country deserves.
Watch for the request for the RNC emails to escalate and Rove to be in front of a Congressional Panel.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:42 pmMaybe Barack should utilize his knowledge to solve the Chicago South Side murder rate before opining about Pakistan….
Seriously, I think a fun run would be Thompson v. Hillary……
Comment by valiant venus — August 14, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
Chicago has a mayor and it isn’t Obama.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:44 pmRove doesn’t have the same convictions that he sold the country on. Those who accept Rove’s departure are accepting a double standard.
Rove runs away while our soldiers have to stay.
ringo loves Rove while valiant watches from the bush.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:47 pmOh… and it is too funny that the liberal media is being covered by a liberal blog and all of you brain-dead liberals think that this some how represents reality -A
The picture, above, says it all.
Comment by Zep Tepi — August 14, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
August 14th, 2007 at 3:51 pmhey slappy were would debate you in any conservative forum yet somehow those forums ban you for having and facts that are different from theirs. yet you come to the progressive forum to debate things.
Rightards are cowards, Rove’s a traitor, major newspapers are all corporate-owned, rightwing flacks, and the wingnuts spewing here are all completely wrong about everything. Tha’s it in a nutshell, all the facts you need to know. No opinions there, just the facts as laid out in the public record. there is not a major newspaper that leans even slightly left in this country any more, else Bushco could not have stolen two elections. An unelected dictator with the brains of a common garden snake, a puppet for the oilmen and traitors on the hard right, and some people still defend him. I’m glad we’re getting our ass kicked in the ME, bullies need to be taken down. I feel extraordinarily sorry for the troops and their families, but nobody should join a volunteer standing army under a Republican administration, nobody. It’s not patriotism, it’s suicide for oil profits, has been for 100 years. Those lefties that didn’t serve in Viet Nam and that are and were against Gulf 1 and this clusterf*ck are the heroes, not the poor suckers like Tillman who was killed in vain for oil profits. Mass murder is not an American value, it’s a chickenhawk republican value. Fortunately, the GOP is done; even Clinton will clean their clocks. Thompson? Please, we had enough of lousy second-rate actors depleting America’s resources with Ronnie Rouge. I hope Rove is his campaign guy, that will ensure success in all of 3 states in the deep South, and that’s it. Bin Laden has done much less damage to the USA than Bush Laden has. i hope to see Bush hang, beside Cheney, Rove and Kristol.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:51 pmAnd if the Dems put on the same show, we will have no improvement.
Comment by missmolly — August 14, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
Agreed. That’s my problem with Hillary. Her campaign strategy seems to be the same as Bushco’s, “It isn’t how you play the game it’s whether you win or lose.” I think the US needs somebody of honor now.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:55 pmHillary isn’t the answer and, sadly, I don’t see the answer anywhere as of yet. Kucinich has the strongest convictions but image means too much in this country and he’s perceived as not electable.
August 14th, 2007 at 3:59 pmhelen - “Image means too much” to progressives???? I’m shocked that politically pure progressives would NOT nominate Dennis Kucinich….The media could be counted on to carry his water, George Soros could be counted on for zillions of dollars and the Hollywood elite could give him an extreme makeover…..I think a Barack/Kucinich ticket will be the Dems best hope!!
August 14th, 2007 at 4:09 pmhelen - “Image means too much†to progressives???? I’m shocked that politically pure progressives would NOT nominate Dennis Kucinich….Comment by valiant venus — August 14, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
So then your claims about how liberal progressives and republicans are - is a LIE? SHOCK, DISMAY, SADNESS that the wingnut unicorn doesn’t realize what a little liar she is…
The media could be counted on to carry his water, George Soros could be counted on for zillions of dollars and the Hollywood elite could give him an extreme makeover…..I think a Barack/Kucinich ticket will be the Dems best hope!! Comment by valiant venus — August 14, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Says the lunatic that thinks an ‘actor’ that made his money lobbying for abortion groups while touting his pro-life credentials is someone that ANYONE should listen to?
BAHAHAHA, you’re as crazy as bush is stupid!
August 14th, 2007 at 4:16 pmYou tell ‘em, Auntie Valiant Venus!
Dennis Kucinich eats tofu! George Soros drinks lattes!
August 14th, 2007 at 4:17 pmImage is everything to the republicans. Just look at the manicured campaigning Cut and Run Rove orchestrated for Bush. You have confused your arrogance with your ignorance once again Valiant.
You should be shocked that we pay over 100,000 hired guns to conduct operations inside Iraq without any secured way to pay for this. The fiscal irresponsibility this administration has pushed for 6 years is deplorable and that is the legacy of Bush and Rove.
One of many blots that won’t be rubbed clean for generations to come.
August 14th, 2007 at 4:18 pmDennis Kucinich eats tofu! George Soros drinks lattes!
Comment by Con Junior — August 14, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
And valiant venus transmits VD.
August 14th, 2007 at 4:23 pmKarl, don’t let the door hit you in the a$$ on your way out….
August 14th, 2007 at 4:25 pmAnd valiant venus transmits VD.
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus
I could care less about my Auntie Valiant Venus’ hygiene, because my Auntie Valiant Venus tells the best made-up stories ever.
Like the made-up story about how Valerie Plame wasn’t a covert operative, and the made-up story about how Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and Jimmy Carter and George Soros and Michael Moore and Sean Penn and Barbra Streisand and Rosie O’Donnell murdered Vince Foster.
August 14th, 2007 at 4:33 pmGood riddance to very bad rubbish.
Why Now? There is a hidden agenda at play in this sudden
August 14th, 2007 at 4:52 pmresignation/termination. I mean really, these people don’t
break wind, without an ulterior motive. There is something
very fishy with Shizer Blossom being handed his hat, during
Congressional August recess. No 2 ways about it, there
are unknown factors at play here. Its the timing Stupid.
From what I have witnessed during the last 6 years from
Rove and his Brownshirts , we can be sure innocent people
are going to suffer. Just look at how many innocent people
have been slaughtered in Iraq. All for the sake of elections,
and money, and self serving policy. Lock the US Treasury
doors friends, its no doubt about to raided yet again.
Con Junior, That’s funny. You wrap up several BS points in one little straw package.
You make me laugh. You also should recheck your med levels. Seriously, they aren’t right. And neither are you.
August 14th, 2007 at 5:06 pmRove is a slime ball just like Cheney and Bush.He will be back somwere . This man is a piece of garbage.
August 14th, 2007 at 5:07 pmWell, what did the Washington Times have to say???
Moonies stand 100% behind Rove. Rove the finest political brain since Ronald Reagan!!!
See, I can write the article without even seeing the Moonie rag…now the republicons don’t have to buy the fish wrapper.
August 14th, 2007 at 5:54 pmJohnny Swank: “He kicked democrat butt all over Washington.”
That must be why Dems are looking at a generation of dominance in congress and the presidency. How’s that “100-year 1-party rule” working out for you, Swank?
And, please cons - the Salt Lake Tribune is liberal???!!! You guys are a frickin hoot!
August 14th, 2007 at 7:21 pmMajor Liberal Papers Cast Rove’s Record As Failure
WOW im shocked
August 14th, 2007 at 9:04 pmIncredible! After years of Official denial, regarding a permanent
republican majority policy of the GOP, and their Swift boating,
Anthrax Coulter/Limbaugh/Hannity Axis, now its common script
in the Press. After being told for 6 years, that the very idea was
a mere Conspiracy Theory, we are told that it was the Official
Rove Brown Shirt policy after all. Again, incredible!!!!
Rove’s departure is pure Theater, and it will be quite entertaining to
watch the hysterical Reich Wing Pundits attempt to spin it to the
level of pure trivium, at all cost. A litteral scorched earth policy of denial
of any failure by Dr Rove Goebbels. Rove has been a total liability
for the President. And no doubt will continue to be so. Rove has been
immensely successful at dividing the Republic into well entrenched
factions, all for the sake of winning, by any and all means. Exactly
what our Nation did not need in a Post 9-11 environment. His actions
have indeed ensured a 1 Party majority for at least 20 years. But
that majority will be Democratic.
Its the timing Stupid.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:24 amRove failed in his attempts to create a permanent republican majority. Now it will never happen. Rove’s inability to see reality has damaged his credibility. His special math failed miserably. Democrats won both the House which was predicted by many pundits and the Senate which many thought would never happen. Democrats swept into power thanks to people like Rove and Bush and their extremist foreign and domestic agenda.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:57 pmosudfsadfasdfasdfasdf
August 16th, 2007 at 6:43 amJust following up now with a longer comment!
August 16th, 2007 at 6:45 am