Rove: Bush’s critics are ’snobs’ who hate his ‘common sense.’
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Rove: Bush’s critics are ’snobs’ who hate his ‘common sense.’
In his interview with Rush Limbaugh this afternoon, Karl Rove claimed that the people criticizing Bush are “sort of elite, effete snobs who can’t hold a candle to this guy. What they don’t like about him is that he is common sense, that he is Middle America.” Limbaugh suggest that Bush critics are frustrated the the President “outsmarts ‘em.” Rove argued Bush is far more intelligent than people give him credit for, and is “one of the best-read people I’ve ever met” whose “passion is history.” Listen to a portion of the interview:
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Bush ain't got the brains God gave geese.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:01 pmAs usual, Rush's logic suffers from the fact that he isn't using any.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:02 pmWell, jeeze, if Rove says it, it must be true.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:03 pm“one of the best-read people I’ve ever metâ€
More out-right lies.......
Bush HIMSELF has said that he does not read newspapers..... If he does not read newspapers, the odds are pretty good that he does not read anything else....
Just go back a few days ago when he was asked if he read one of the recently released documents from his department......
He said no he has not......
PLEASE, this man could not read his pet goat let alone anything beyond a 2nd grade level........
And HE DOES NOT REPRESENT MIDDLE AMERICA!!!!!!
August 15th, 2007 at 4:05 pmIf Bush is the most well read person Rove has met, what does that say about the people Rove hangs with?
August 15th, 2007 at 4:06 pmSo "Middle Americans" are fake Texans who grew up as rich New Englanders and deserted the National Guard. Hmm, never knew that.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:06 pmRove is the one who invented the curren administration speak. Whatever I say, it's really the opposite. My personal prayer is that Congress continues to pursue justice in regards to all the dirty politics Rove has done. We need to tell the world that this is not who we really are. Also, we need to make sure that all these Presidential powers are not left for the next President to use and abuse, be it Democrat or Republican.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:07 pmI Love This! Carl Rove is just a plain, ordinary, common sense guy. Yes, and a swastika is just a Tibetan good luck charm. And now Mr. Rove's quoting Spiro Agnew! Maybe this president will walk in Mr. Nixon's shoes after all.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:08 pmImpeach Bush, Cheney and Gonzales and Save the Constitution!
So a guy who was beat up by girls calls someone else "effete?"
And Bush has such a passion for history he didn't even know there were different Muslim sects?
Well, I guess when the audience in question would believe Karl if he told them water is no longer wet and the sun actually appears first in the West, then I guess it's okay to flat out lie.
.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:08 pmHis passion is history. hmmm. His presidency is history and his standing in the world is history.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:08 pmW has the best smelling F@rts I have ever had the pleasure to sample. Roses!--now to plant my twolips
August 15th, 2007 at 4:09 pmRove argued Bush is far more intelligent than people give him credit for, and is “one of the best-read people I’ve ever metâ€
Poor Turd Blossom. Sounds like GWB got further in My Pet Goat than he did.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:10 pmSnobs? Good Heavans,what the hell does one call Barbara Comstock or Peggy Noonan?
August 15th, 2007 at 4:10 pmI have a beautiful thick head of hair
August 15th, 2007 at 4:11 pmRove argued Bush is far more intelligent than people give him credit for, and is “one of the best-read people I’ve ever metâ€
Wasn't bush struggling to read that 1st grade book on 9-11 to the kids ?
August 15th, 2007 at 4:11 pmI'm sure most in Middle America have read their Shakespears this week.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:12 pmThis is known as spin
Rove spins out of habit
the founding fathers spin in their graves out of disgust
August 15th, 2007 at 4:14 pmcommon sense-----> failing to find oil in Texas oilfields
August 15th, 2007 at 4:14 pm... and I can leg-press more than Pat Robertson.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:14 pmIf Bush had no brains, why did he beat (or even come close to beating) a sitting VP in the "greatest economic expansion ever." If he's so dumb, why did he trounce Kerry in the domestic debate. If he is so dumb, why did he fool Hillary and Joe Biden into voting for the war???
The truth is Bush is Brilliant. AND that is why you hate him. AND what you really want - impeachment - you will NEVER get. Because deep down, the spineless, cowardly Dems know Bush will outsmart them.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:15 pmROVE + Alabama Scandal(s) = August Abrupt Resignation + Jail Time for TURD Blossom
When is the Press gonna start asking Karl about the unfolding scandal in Alabama? He up to his neck in this one. Bush's Brain is just plain evil and corrupt.
READ THIS FOLKS >
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/06/hbc-90000351
August 15th, 2007 at 4:16 pmI'll give Rove credit. He got of lot of gullible people to believe that "Bush is Middle America." But since he isn't running for president any more, Karl can drop the act.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:16 pmIf you listen to the audio KKKarl says that GW read 94 books last year. Does anyone honestly believe that Bush read 94 full length books last year? Or even in his life?
August 15th, 2007 at 4:17 pmI read a lot and maybe that comes to 12-15 books a year plus whatever I read in newspapers and on the internets.
94 books? I just do not believe it. Not even 94 'My Pet Goats'
Rush and Karl could have and traded armpit farts for the duration.
did they change any minds? do any of Rush's loyal cabbage rolls feel any stronger about anything than they already did?
preaching to the converted, man. don't mean diddly.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:17 pmSnobs are one of the names BushCo calls "us folk". The rover also calls us the Mob.
We just seem to be so much extra baggage holding back their agendas.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:18 pmBush critics "hate" him because he's immoral, unethical, corrupt, arrogant and stupid.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:18 pm"Limbaugh suggest that Bush critics are frustrated that the President “outsmarts ‘em.†Rove argued Bush is far more intelligent than people give him credit for"
-just tryn' to make the rightTards feel good about themselves, someone has got to.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:21 pm"Best-read"....KKKarl have you ever heard him speak? You have got to be kidding me. Bush couldn't outsmart a rock, well with an IQ of 91 guess he could outsmart a rock, but not much else.
And Hillary is a Com...he did not win either election, they were stolen by repukian criminals. He did not outsmart anyone, KKKarl and shotgun Cheney pulled a fast one there with their anthrax mailing. No Bush is anything but brilliant, we hate him because he is a criminal and a war criminal to boot. Spew your stupid repukian talking points somewhere else, idiot.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:21 pmRove categorizes Bush's critics as "ELITE"??? I thought they were Bush's Base.
"This is an impressive crowd - the haves and the have-mores," quipped the GOP standard-bearer. "Some people call you the elites; I call you my base."
-- W. on Oct 20, 2000. Speaking at an $800-a-plate fundraiser.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/10/18/politics/main242210.shtml
August 15th, 2007 at 4:21 pmI think maybe Karl meant 94 pages.
Bush is brilliant? Brilliant as a lump of anthracite.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:21 pmDon't give Bush credit for all the victories, unless you are willing to assign him the blame for all the screw ups.
We can all see Mr. Pee has wet his pants again on the way to stalking and murdering his next girlfriend…
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 15, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
This must be name stealing. There's no homophobic reference from HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:22 pm> Rove argued Bush is far more intelligent than people give him credit for, and is “one of the best-read people I’ve ever metâ€
Yes books like My Pet Goatas the Twin Towers were collapsing.
Rove perhaps 10-15% of dumbass or kool aid drinking Americans buy the bullshit your spewing.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:22 pmBreaking News:
Karl Rove calls 74% of America "elite, effete snobs"
-GSD
August 15th, 2007 at 4:22 pmI can testify that Rove really does worship GW.
It's so sticky in here I can hardly breathe!
Of course, he also worships Gannon, Thompson & Foley.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:23 pmOMG, here he cums again!
#27 - That is slander. You hate Bush because he's a Republican trying to do his job. You hate Bush because he believes in God.
You hate Bush because you're a selfish, self-hating American who cheers for death in Iraq for cheap political points. YOU ARE EVIL.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:23 pmBush has no sense, common or otherwise...
August 15th, 2007 at 4:23 pmYet when Bush said "Shouldn't we give the middle class money?" [when they wanted more tax cuts for wealthy]
Karl said "Principle...Stick to principle"
Huh. [Seems, to me, Karl had no common sense and is not for middle America =]
Way to go Karl!!
August 15th, 2007 at 4:23 pmGood God man...when I read this latest item I choked on my Budweiser! Sigh. Another trip to the laundry.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:24 pmCommon sense...that is frickin rich...LOL! I should have bought Kool-Aid shares back when it was three bucks a share.
what apathetic website- 300 milllion americans and maybe 100 libs who have nothing to say thats progressive- its all derisive and mean
August 15th, 2007 at 4:24 pm[Bush] did not win either election,
Comment by Buck Fush — August 15, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
Yes he did. It was in all the papers.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:25 pmr; mr. pee wears pants? I just saw him the other day-wearing Rudi Giuliani's dress.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:25 pmHelp, I'm drowning in here!
August 15th, 2007 at 4:26 pmYou hate Bush because you’re a selfish, self-hating American who cheers for death in Iraq for cheap political points. YOU ARE EVIL.
Comment by Hillary is a Communist
So says the name-jumpin' Neocon who visits a PROGRESSIVE site and promotes racism/hatred?
Nah, scorin' political points is the Republicants forte, hence your presence HERE.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:26 pmComment by Hillary is a Communist — August 15, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
The unimaginative projectionism never stops from this one.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:27 pmBuck Fush - I hope you're right. That means in 2008, the GOP will win again. Thank you for calming me - I was getting nervous that we would lose. But by your own admission, we'll just rig it to win. Cool - we can pack the Supreme Court then and make fun of your conspiracy theories after we steal the election.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:27 pmWhy don't you just go ahead and blow him Karl and get it over with.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:27 pmFACT
Iran Hasn't Started a War in Over 1,000 Years
August 15th, 2007 at 4:28 pm#49 - another oral obsessed liberal.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:28 pmRove is distracting attentin from war crimes and unlawful violations of Geneva. Rove was there during the plannig. He could be a war crimes defendant.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:28 pm"what apathetic website- 300 milllion americans and maybe 100 libs who have nothing to say thats progressive- its all derisive and mean
Comment by tony — August 15, 2007 @ 4:24 pm"
PSSSST.....
You posted on the wrong tab.......
You did not post on RedState, you posted on Think Progress.....
Next time pay attention to what tab you are on and what website you are posting on.....
August 15th, 2007 at 4:29 pmIf you notice Mr Pee is using the same tired schtick Karl is still using.
Projecting his opinion, his imagination, on others then regarding his imagination as some kind of truth.
Crazy isn't it?
August 15th, 2007 at 4:29 pmRemoveBush - shouldn't you be killing babies or something?
August 15th, 2007 at 4:29 pmHe ain't smarter than me...& and it took Mr. Bush to show all you elites that it's pronounced 'NewQler'.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:30 pmmr. pee wears pants? I just saw him the other day-wearing Rudi Giuliani’s dress.
Comment by Uncle Ho — August 15, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
So what are you saying, that Hillary is more manish than Rudy?
August 15th, 2007 at 4:30 pmNow that Bush's cancerous brain has been removed, please throw that putrid thing in the incinerator.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:30 pm#49 - another oral obsessed liberal.
Comment by Hillary is a Communist
I'm not the one salivating over Bush's "Brilliance" as you claim him to be.
HIC k
August 15th, 2007 at 4:31 pmThat is slander. You hate Bush because he’s a Republican trying to do his job. You hate Bush because he believes in God.
You hate Bush because you’re a selfish, self-hating American who cheers for death in Iraq for cheap political points. YOU ARE EVIL.
Comment by Hillary is a Communist — August 15, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
Dream on loser. If Bush hadn't broke so many laws he wouldn't be crying executive privilege every 5 minutes. Are you going to pay the price for all the crap Bushco has gotten us mired in. I didn't think so.
Chickenhawk supporters of this war criminal should get some humility and STFU. The progressives here, the real Americans, will work on getting this countries reputation back. You people can just apologize and say thank you. Then sit back and reflect on all the trouble your stupidity has caused us all.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:32 pm#49 - another oral obsessed liberal.
Comment by Hillary is a Communist
LOL, thank you for using the same tired method or projecting insanity as reality, and proving my point. Now call me a bunch of names and make up some untrue stories in rebuttal to this comment.
Thanks for playing!
August 15th, 2007 at 4:33 pmIt's like these guys take the truth, then flip it 180 degrees and spit out the lie. They don't even try to smudge or spin the truth, they just flat out lie.
I mean really, come on.. "well read" , "passion is history"! Give me a f'ing break!! Marble mouth Bush jr. is clearly only a notch or two above functionally retarded. You don't have to be 'sort of elite' or a 'snob' to recognize that, just listen to him everytime he opens his mouth.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:33 pmr; if the stiletto heels fits, wear it.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:34 pmStealing the election is all you’ve had for decades. That’s why Rove was caught Caging!
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 15, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
At least his cage didn’t contain gerbils.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:34 pmSo what are you saying, that Hillary is more manish than Rudy?
Hillary is more authoritative than Rudy.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:34 pmBush's "passion is history"?? and the moron can't even explain what a "sovereign nation" is?
Hahahahahah!!!
August 15th, 2007 at 4:35 pmThat is slander. You hate Bush because he’s a Republican trying to do his job. You hate Bush because he believes in God.
You hate Bush because you’re a selfish, self-hating American who cheers for death in Iraq for cheap political points. YOU ARE EVIL.
Comment by Hillary is a Communist — August 15, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
You obviously LOVE what Bush has done to this country so by your own admission, you are the "selfish, self-hating American who cheers for death in Iraq for cheap political points."
August 15th, 2007 at 4:35 pmwhat apathetic website- 300 milllion americans and maybe 100 libs who have nothing to say thats progressive- its all derisive and mean
Comment by tony — August 15, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
That's right tony, your leader's destruction of our country has pissed us off. You would be angry too if our leader has f*cked things us. But you guys were angry at Clinton for his sex life and were too stupid to notice all the great things he did for this country. Yeah, we're pissed. So why don't you say you're sorry and get the hell out of here.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:35 pmEVERYthing he said was bullshite...
but this is the most laughable: "... he is Middle America.â€
good lord... still trying to pass THAT one off?
August 15th, 2007 at 4:36 pmyeesh...
.
-tony #41
I don't like apathetic websites either.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:36 pmDoes "common sense" include:
(1) allowing al Qaeda to fly 2 planes into the World Trade Center and a third into The Pentagon
(2) allowing Osama bin Laden to remain free 6 years later??
August 15th, 2007 at 4:37 pmHIAC; we hate Bush. Is job is to faithfully uphold and execute the Constitution. He has disregarded it, underminded it, and subverted ....just like Hitler.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:37 pmThe "books" Bush and Rove read are comic books.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:37 pmHow in the world can I hate something that doesn't exist? If Bush actually HAD any common sense, I could form an opinion on it.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:37 pmwhat apathetic website- 300 milllion americans and maybe 100 libs who have nothing to say thats progressive- its all derisive and mean
Comment by tony
I love you tony, want to see my watch?
August 15th, 2007 at 4:38 pmBuck Fush - I hope you’re right. That means in 2008, the GOP will win again. Thank you for calming me - I was getting nervous that we would lose. But by your own admission, we’ll just rig it to win. Cool - we can pack the Supreme Court then and make fun of your conspiracy theories after we steal the election.
Comment by Hillary is a Communist — August 15, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
We're all worried that you fascist will steal ONE MORE ELECTION. That isn't winning and it isn't patriotic. All you neocons who think your party winning is more important that this country should be arrested for treason. Hope they can link this back to you.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:38 pmAfter all, the GOP is now known as the party of Perverts!
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 15, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
More projection from you - BORING!!
August 15th, 2007 at 4:39 pmComment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 15, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
They read all right,,ALL FICTION,,oh yea. That's learning. No matter what Bush's his education was it sure doesn't show in his appearence. He's retained nothing and had a lot of help with his homework I'm sure. Bush brain Rove's probably going to have to phone in all Bush's instructions from Texas now. He's never been without him politically before.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:39 pmLike most middle Americans, George Bush's grandfather was a Connecticut Senator and his father was President, he went to elite Eastern prep schools and was a legacy admission to Yale. And like most of us, his family connections ensured that his professional and scholastic failings did not prevent him from admission to Harvard Business School and a lucrative career propped up by investments from wealthy friends. When Bush decided to dabble in politics, of course he did what any middle American would do - purchase a multi-million dollar "ranch" with no livestock or crops to authenticate his down home credentials.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:39 pmHe's smarter than the average 'Bear',,,right Gannon?
August 15th, 2007 at 4:40 pmSo what are you saying, that Hillary is more manish than Rudy?
Comment by r — August 15, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
Who isn't? Rudy even exhibits PMS symptoms with his anger issues.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:40 pmwhat apathetic website- 300 milllion americans and maybe 100 libs who have nothing to say thats progressive- its all derisive and mean
Comment by tony — August 15, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
The truth hurts eh Tony?
August 15th, 2007 at 4:40 pmLimbaugh suggest that Bush critics are frustrated that the President “outsmarts ‘em.â€
It's easy to understand how Dumbaugh came up with this one.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:40 pmSay what?
-
August 15th, 2007 at 4:41 pmRepublicans would LOVE to pack the Supreme Court and make all abortion illegal. Then, the United States would join the other esteemed countries where abortion is illegal in all circumstances:
El Salvador
Malta
Vatican City
... that's it.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:41 pmAfter all, the GOP is now known as the party of Perverts!
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 15, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
The unimaginative projectionism never stops from this one.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:41 pmComment by ZPE — August 15, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
3. Ur-Fascism relies on action for action's sake.
Action is taken without reflection or critical attitudes. Thinking is a form of emasculation. Distrust of the intellectual world has always been a symptom of Ur-Fascism, from Hermann Goering's fondness for frequent use of such expressions as "degenerate intellectuals," "eggheads," "effete snobs," and "universities are nests of reds."
The official Fascist intellectuals were mainly engaged in attacking modern culture and the liberal intelligentsia for having betrayed traditional values.
Fourteen Warning Signs of a Fascist State
August 15th, 2007 at 4:42 pm-by Umberto Eco
The fascist liars on the right just don't know when the shut up. They haven't learned that they are no longer just slandering Democrats, but most independents and even some Republicans who recognize that Bush is a failure.
Keep it up, wingnuts. Keep calling middle-American centrists names like traitor, hater, and terrorist. See where that gets your party in 2008. The dustbin of history.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:42 pmTypical of the Bush Assministration and their apologists...anyone who isn't fool enough to swallow their rhetoric and wash it down with a huge gulp of the proverbial Koolaid (and anyone with some modicum of critical thinking and a functional vocabulary) gets branded as an "elitist"...by that logic, if being somewhat more than semi-literate and having a broader grasp on reality than Rush's target audience of mouth-breathers makes me an elitist, than so be it.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:42 pmAt least his cage didn’t contain gerbils.
Comment by r — August 15, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
No his cage contained the votes of soldiers that voted for Kerry. Way to support the troops, way to support the US, way to support the constitution.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:43 pm"(1) allowing al Qaeda to fly 2 planes into the World Trade Center and a third into The Pentagon
(2) allowing Osama bin Laden to remain free 6 years later??
Comment by Republicans Can't Govern. — August 15, 2007 @ 4:37 pm"
I must protest item (1)......
It has NOT been proven that al Qaeda did this..... The evidence points more to an inside job than to al Qaeda.......
Not trying to change the toppic, but I want to try and keep the information as honest and factual as possible.....
August 15th, 2007 at 4:43 pmThis whole line Rove is peddling (which has been spread by others as well) that Bush is really way smarter than we think, is well-read, and in general NOT what he appears to be is, frankly- a line of complete bullshit.
Aside from the obvious, overwhelming EVIDENCE of Bush's semi-literate, mentally lazy, incoherence, think about this:
If this line of horseshit is true, that means that the President of the UNited States has for YEARS, deliberately adopted a public persona (complete with numerous admittances by him -"I can barely speak English" only the most recent- about his being "misunderestimated", etc. that in reality is the opposite of what he supposedly is.
Are we really supposed to believe that the bumbling, incoherent, barely able to speak complete sentences boob we 've seen for years, ISN'T the real Bush?????
August 15th, 2007 at 4:44 pmYeah, why don’t you just as Glenn Murphy and the host of GOP perverts that sexually molest others about that?
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 15, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
This guy must be a reel to reel projector. He's full of it.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:44 pmWhat happened to the "nattering nabobs of negativism"?
Ahhh...those were the days!
August 15th, 2007 at 4:44 pmAfter all, the GOP is now known as the party of Perverts!
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 15, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
The unimaginative projectionism never stops from this one.
Comment by ZPE — August 15, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
Comment by r — August 15, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
Haggart
Gannon
Foley
Decamp
Murphy Jr
Should I continue? There's more.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:45 pmRove failed to mention that a majority of Americans now disapprove of Bush. Rove arguments are childish and immature. Bush has always ignored common sense. He ignored it when it came to Iraq, the Dubai Ports deal, stem cell research, global warming and corruption in the GOP. As for Bush's intelligence the less said the better.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:46 pmNo his cage contained the votes of soldiers that voted for Kerry.
Comment by shane — August 15, 2007 @ 4:43 pm
I thought Kerry kept those votes in his magic hat.
As if there were any.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:46 pmA lot of spelling and grammatical errors in there, TP. The errors are i bold.
In his interview with Rush Limbaugh this afternoon, Karl Rove claimed that the people criticizing Bush are “sort of elite, effete snobs who can’t hold a candle to this guy. What they don’t like about him is that he is common sense, that he is Middle America.†Limbaugh suggest that Bush critics are frustrated the the President “outsmarts ‘em.†Rove argued Bush is far more intelligent than people give him credit for, and is “one of the best-read people I’ve ever met†whose “passion is history.†Listen to a portion of the interview:
August 15th, 2007 at 4:47 pmBush has common sense? When did that happen??
August 15th, 2007 at 4:47 pmI smell sheer desperation in the Bush crime family. They are focused solely on keeping their diminishing base together, knowing that if Bush loses much more support their little cabal will come completely unglued, meaning long prison sentences for the lot of them.
I suspect that Rove is going to the wall with his patented strategy of securing the base and dividing the opposition. One possibility is that he will go underground to orchestrate a faux-centrist third party campaign meant to draw off and divide the 70% of Americans now opposed to Bush.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:47 pmComment by r — August 15, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
This loser's definitely paid by the post. If you have not comment Idiot R why are you wasting our time pasting others posts? If that's your effort at whinings why don't you go somewhere and cry alone, nobody here gives two shits what you trolls think.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:48 pmThe last straw for the American people was the Foley scandal, where the GOP leadership and the White Bush went to great lengths to protect a pedophile. It was only when the story broke that Foley resigned. This scandal and the Iraq war allowed democrats to sweep into Congress.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:50 pm"Hillary is a communist"....
Hey lemming...mommy has finished your franks and beans...don't you think it's time to go wash up for lunch...and change your pull-up.
If you ever visit the world of reality-based reality, look us up. Till then, keep dreaming...
What a dumb ass.
Why do neo-cons hate America.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:50 pmWhat happened to the “nattering nabobs of negativism�
Ahhh…those were the days!
Comment by alagator — August 15, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
Agnew's Amazing Alliteration. Hey, the guy was a crook, but at least his speech was colorful.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:51 pmYeah, why don’t you just as Glenn Murphy and the host of GOP perverts that sexually molest others about that?
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 15, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
This guy must be a reel to reel projector. He’s full of it.
Comment by r — August 15, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
So you support child molestors as long as they're Republican. You people are more twisted than even we can believe.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:52 pmby "elite", I mean 'those who think for themselves'(how dare you!), not the Republican Corporate elite who run this whole show
August 15th, 2007 at 4:53 pmWhat is it with Republicans and molesting children.
Will somebody think of the children!!!!!
August 15th, 2007 at 4:54 pmComment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 15, 2007 @ 4:46 pm
That's kind of odd. You make all kinds of homophobic references and call others perverts talk about projection all the time. Then you rattle off the names and acts of more deviants than I've ever heard.
I guess you're the biggest projector of all.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:54 pmGlenn Murphy? So what. I walk around with bedhead all the time
August 15th, 2007 at 4:56 pmHA HA HA HA HA HA LOL LOL LOL
August 15th, 2007 at 4:57 pmKeep getting angry and let the two party system divide us.
Then they will have America all to themselves.
Do not believe either one truly has the best interest for all of us.
Republicans with unprecedented spending and mismanagement of the war in the beginning.
Democrats with voting for the war and then backing out and now reconsidering and oh yeah, passing all types of unbinding resolutions.
Time to look elsewhere.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:57 pmI think it's sad that President Bush's friends, after seven years, still need to put forward the idea that "he's smarter than he looks".
Meanwhile the President often claims that he enjoys the lowered expectations that comes with being "misunderestimated". Sure, it's great when you're running for office but it's a rather pathetic way to govern once you get there.
I think the sad truth is that he is exactly as smart as he seems.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:58 pm#125
"Heh...Heh...It's easy, 'cause they like cheeseburger pizza...Heh. And when we're done, we can play Shoots and Ladders....well, so long as I can be the commander-guy and The Decider...Heh"....Franks and Beans!!!
Signed,
August 15th, 2007 at 4:58 pmM.....heh, oops...I meant W...heh.
Bush ain’t got the brains God gave cheese.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:58 pmSome would call that supporting evidence r.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:58 pmActually Rove's comments make a sort of sick kind of sense. If your base is tabacky chewin, English manglin', NASCAR mesmerized neanterthals and you are pretending to be part of that base...then anyone with the slightest education and penchant for critical thought must necessarily be an intellectual snob.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:58 pmAnd now it's time to puke.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:59 pmIf brains was lard, "W" couldn't grease a pan.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:59 pmNow, thanks to Karl Rove, we finally have a precise definition of that mythical "Middle America". It's that odd collection of 29% of Americans who fall into one of these categories: war-mongering nationalists, hateful xenophobes, racist bigots, corrupt crony corporatists, fanatical religious fundamentalists, and those poor saps who are mentally unstable and hold a tenuous relationship with reality. These categories often overlap.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:00 pmAugust 15th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
All of those books that W read had cloth covers and were made in China.They also contained lead dyes... is there an explanation here?
August 15th, 2007 at 5:00 pmThe number of Bushisms that we have seen in the 6 years he has been president contradict Rove's ridiculous statement that Bush is intelligent. Bush will never be able to shake the perception that he is dumb.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:01 pmCannot wait for dems in office....
the same things will be going on...
Will the sentiment be the same?
August 15th, 2007 at 5:02 pmBill Clinton has an IQ of about 180.
George W. Bush has an IQ of 90 at most (not counting the effect of drugs and brain damage).
That's why the White House imploded when George W. Bush took office.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:03 pmI don't hate his common sense.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:04 pmHe doesn't have any to hate.
I hate his guts.
"Listen to a portion of the interview:"
No thank you.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:04 pmWhen you Neocons finally admit it's a civil war, well,
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
A U.S. general said the attacks were "trademark al Qaeda" adding it was "an act of ethnic cleansing."
Thanks a million Bushco for finally bringing Al Qeada to Iraq.
You Cons want resolution, then solve the main crisis which is and will be,
CIVIL WAR.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:05 pmBush has a "passion for history," but somehow, before invading a middle-eastern country, he didn't know that there were two main types of muslims, Sunnis and Shiites.
He has a "passion for history," but somehow couldn't explain to a group of Native Americans what the term soverign meant.
Bush was the 17th legacy from his family honorarily admitted to Yale, a string of legacies which dates back to the 1840's. Before that he went to Andover Prep and after, he attended Harvard Business School. Yep, he's just a regular guy and, as an elitist snob, that just pisses me off!
August 15th, 2007 at 5:06 pmBill Clinton has an IQ of about 180.
George W. Bush had an IQ of 90 at most (not counting the effect of drugs and brain damage).
That’s why the White House imploded when George W. Bush took office.
Comment by Perry Logan — August 15, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
Perry L.,
August 15th, 2007 at 5:06 pmI fixed your post.
Cannot wait for dems in office….
the same things will be going on…
Will the sentiment be the same?
Comment by wattstheproblem — August 15, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
Funny...
August 15th, 2007 at 5:07 pmI said almost the same thing about the reps when Clinton was in office.
"Best read" and is hated for his "common sense" ?
How many well-read individuals refer to a literary giant as "ShakespeareS" ?
Or to the present-day phenomenon as "the Google" and the "internetS" ?
And is his "common sense" revealed when he prattles on between the words "dissembling" and "dissassembling" ; neither of which he understands nor can pronounce correctly ?
August 15th, 2007 at 5:08 pmCommon sense? No.
Middle America? Only if middle America means very rich and elite.
Outsmarts his critics? This guy must be off his rocker.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:10 pmRove: Bush's critics are 'snobs’' who hate his 'common sense.'
No Rove.... all We the People want back is the Constitution, our jobs, a moral health care system, justice for all... you bastard thugs stole this from us while distracting the masses with you fake lying manipulative terror. You freaks do not want to stop until it is all gone ... gone to the One world Order Corporate evil doers.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:10 pmAnd to the trolls here... How can you NOT see this for what it really is? You will go down too.
Quoted from Times
Bush is in the same league as John F. Kennedy, who graduated 65th in his high-school class of 110 and, in the words of one biographer, "stumbled through Latin, French, mathematics, and English but made respectable marks in physics and history."
Clintons IQ is more like Al Gore at 134
August 15th, 2007 at 5:11 pmComment by MCMetal — August 15, 2007 @ 5:08 pm
He has that book ("Common Sense") by Thomas Paine. It's still in the plastic wrap from Amazon. God is reading it for him.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:12 pmThen you rattle off the names and acts of more deviants than I’ve ever heard -r
Oh, their are plenty of them...Like (R) Mayor Kyle Randall
August 15th, 2007 at 5:12 pmGRANITE FALLS, Minn. A former mayor of Clarkfield has been sentenced on charges that he molested two boys from 1997 to 2003.
He was mayor of Clarkfield from 1998 to the fall of 2004. In 2002, he ran as a Republican in an unsuccessful bid for state representative. [thank God]
http://www.wkbt.com/global/story.asp?s=4075665&ClientType=Print
http://www.americanprogress.org/
If you want to read on progressive items related to TP.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:14 pmIt is true Art....Dimes worth of Difference...as soon as we realize that the better we can improve this country.
Actually sit down and have civil debate to help solve our problems.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:14 pmFor Rove, there is little effort, if any, to convince Rush with what he is talking about.
Rush plays,as usual , the cheerleader part.
I see no problem to any of the two convincing each others on this issue of Bush presidency.
The problem is for Rove to convince others in different forum,and the American people now.
Rove choosing Rush Limbuagh radio after he resigned is not a surprise at all.
He wants to talk freely and get support also from his cheerleader Rush.
Rove never explained why Bush has been struggling to convince no more than 34% of Americans for sometime about his policies.
The dreamland that Rove still lives in blinded him from seeing reality.
In last November's elections,Rove still was convinced and believed that Americans will keep Republicans as majority in the House and Senate,even after all the mishandling of the war.
If Rove continue to hang around Rush Limbaugh, they both will continue dreaming that they are right,and the majority of Americans are wrong.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:15 pmComment by wattstheproblem — August 15, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
There's a difference between 'civil' debate and 'civilized' debate. I prefer the latter.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:18 pmBush is smarter than you believe. He won the most coveted job in the free world, and that makes you wimpies really angry. He beat retarded Al ( He really needs to wear earth tones) Gore, and cowardice John ( How do I look wind sailing?) Kerry. Bush was elected twice because the candidates sucked. Bill Clinton knew what he was doing, therefore getting votes from republican soccer moms. The democratic party better nominate a better canidate than Hillary. No presidential hopeful has ever won the presidency with below fifty percent positive numbers, EVER!
If the republican party wants Hillary to be the candidate, that says a lot. Their not scared of her. You however should be if you hope for a progressive win.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:18 pmBush is "middle America." Yeah, right. He comes from generations of extreme wealth, privilege, exclusion, political power, and elite education. The Bushes are as close as it gets to royalty in this country. Rove is just doing his usual myth-mongering. This particular meme about Bush certainly seems to have caught on, though -- "guy you'd like to have a beer with"; etc.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:20 pm#159
August 15th, 2007 at 5:23 pmWhen you listen to Rush, it is obvious he is still using....and for his listeners to follow this druggie like sheep says volumes about them.
If Bush is middle American, then I'm Paris Hilton's brother.-NOT
August 15th, 2007 at 5:23 pmComment by MCMetal — August 15, 2007 @ 5:08 pm
He has that book (â€Common Senseâ€) by Thomas Paine. It’s still in the plastic wrap from Amazon. God is reading it for him.
Comment by WaltTheMan — August 15, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
And "God" was overheard commenting :
August 15th, 2007 at 5:24 pm"Jesus Christ , you're goddamn stupid" ..........
Former Rep. Fred Richmond. This New York Democrat was arrested in 1978 for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old. He remained in Congress and won re-election—before eventually resigning in 1982 after pleading guilty to tax evasion and drug possession.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:24 pmBush is “middle America.†Yeah, right. He comes from generations of extreme wealth, privilege, exclusion, political power, and elite education. The Bushes are as close as it gets to royalty in this country. Rove is just doing his usual myth-mongering. This particular meme about Bush certainly seems to have caught on, though — “guy you’d like to have a beer withâ€; etc.
Comment by huh — August 15, 2007 @ 5:20 pm
I bet you say that about the Kennedy's and Kerry's too? When are you going to come up with something original?
Huh is a perfect for you by the way.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:24 pmFormer Sen. Brock Adams. The late Washington Democrat was forced to stop campaigning after numerous accusations of drugging, assault and rape, the first surfacing in 1988.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:26 pm1978, hehehhehe
August 15th, 2007 at 5:26 pmFormer Rep. John Young. The late Texas Democrat increased the salary of a staffer after she gave in to his sexual advances. The congressman won re-election in 1976 but lost two years later.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:26 pmFormer Rep. Wayne Hays. The late Ohio Democrat hired an unqualified secretary reportedly for sexual acts. Although he resigned from Congress, the Democratic House leadership stalled in removing him from the Administration Committee in 1976.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:27 pmBush Junior never had an once of common sense his entire elite life. He was born into a wealthy family, with political connections, so for Rove and Dubya to call those who oppose them "snobs" is utterly ridiculous.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:27 pm#83 -- Could not have said it better myself.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:27 pmFormer Rep. Gerry Studds. He was censured for sexual relationship with underage male page in 1983. Massachusetts voters returned him to office for six more terms.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:27 pmFormer Rep. Mel Reynolds. The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16-year-old. President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:28 pm1976,hehehehe
August 15th, 2007 at 5:29 pmSen. Teddy Kennedy. The liberal Massachusetts senator testified in defense of nephew accused of rape, invoking his family history to win over the jury in 1991.
Nevermind murder in the river.
Again, both sides are dividing us till we fracture and sink.
Time to change ALL our leaders.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:29 pmJohnny Swank: "If the republican party wants Hillary to be the candidate, that says a lot. Their not scared of her. You however should be if you hope for a progressive win."
Swank, we know from your past posts that critical thinking is not your strong suit, but please tell us why Rove would be looking for any opportunity to slam Hillary and Repubs keep telling anyone who will listen that she can't possibly be elected if they actually want her to be the candidate. If they wanted her to be the candidate, wouldn't they shut up about her negatives? I don't want to give you a headache, but try to think this through. And keep in mind that Hillary has beaten Rudy and all other Repub frontrunners in head-to-head polls 12 out of the last 14 times. And, you should know that 58% of Americans say they will vote for the Dem no matter who they nominate against only 26% who say they will vote for the Repub.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:29 pmounce not once in post 172.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:30 pmN.A.M.B.L.A. votes democratic in every election and advises their members to do so as well. Why? Because liberal judges feel sorry for the perp, not the innocent victims. State laws are posted to show where you get in the least trouble for raping young boys!! Their web site endorses democrats. Go check for yourself: you should feel proud.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:30 pm"If the republican party wants Hillary to be the candidate, that says a lot. Their not scared of her. You however should be if you hope for a progressive win."
Comment by Johnny Swank — August 15, 2007 @ 5:18 pm
I figure our chances for a Democratic win will be excellent no matter who we nominate, if the Republicans insist on Giuliani being their standard-bearer. Even the people in his own city can't stand him and aren't afraid to say so.
But I agree with you that if we want a progressive win, we need to nominate somebody other than Hillary. She's far more status quo than progressive.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:30 pmRep. Barney Frank. The outspoken Massachusetts Democrat hired a male prostitute who ran a prostitution service from Frank’s residence in the 1980s. Only two Democrats in the House of Representatives voted to censure him in 1990.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:31 pmWell, he _was_ seen with a book by Camus once (it was "l'Etranger" which is a bit tough to get into at the best of times: http://www.slate.com/id/2147662/). He was also seen with at least one revisionist history book: http://www.slate.com/id/2162837/
Way to go...
August 15th, 2007 at 5:31 pmOK Karl, whatever you say. What UTTER NONSENSE.
The only thing Georgie cares about is his speedboat at Kennebunkport and a sneaked tipple of JD after the wife's asleep.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:32 pmtest
August 15th, 2007 at 5:32 pmgot anything from this century whattstheproblem? hahahhahahahaaa
August 15th, 2007 at 5:32 pmBush's common sense?
You mean like fighting the war on terror by pulling the troops out of Afghanistan, where bin Laden was, and sending them to invade Iraq, where the terrorists weren't? That kind of common sense?
I'm so elite I just can't see the common sense in that maneuver.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:33 pmGW Bush doesn't read newspapers and not much else either...although his dad did. GW does rest a lot though. (maybe the Lyme disease)
But GW did read Dick the Goat...remember when he stared dumbfounded into the camera for however many minutes? ..being the man of action that he is. Cheney gave the orders then...and is probably still doing so.
Bush is probably not as dumb as he appears and sounds...but that does not qualify him as presidential material.
OTOH Bush does make a good grinning, head bobbing figurine for the Darth Cheney Dashboard.
Hey...do you recall that shot Michael Moore or someone had of him making his golf shot immediately after that so serious taping ? Yup...he really showed us how much he cared/the quarter inch depth of his feelings, when he thought he was off camera.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:35 pmI give up........
TP YOU SUCK!!!!
FIX YOU GOD DANM SERVERS, or what ever the issue is with posts on posting......
August 15th, 2007 at 5:35 pmwattstheproblem, do you really want to get into a numbers game with perverts? I don't think you really do. It's not a good game for repubs these days. Ask John McCain's Florida election co-chairman.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:36 pmJohn ( How do I look wind sailing?) Kerry -John Swank
You seem to be more interested in photo ops and smear than a candidates qualifications. In Texas the Lt. Governor does the work, not the Governor.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:37 pm#180 Johnny Wank
N.A.M.B.L.A. votes democratic in every election and advises their members to do so as well.
Really? How would you know? You spend a lot of time at their website?
Oh, by the way, who was it again that covered for Mark Foley when he was hitting on the male pages? Oh yeah, that's right. The hypocritical pedophile Republicans.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:37 pmThis country deserves a fresh start. Going with Hillary isn't the answer. Justified or not, Mrs. Clinton will be a target for everyone that hated Mr. Clinton.
Take that ammo out of the republican hands. Edwards, Obama and/ or Richardson can be rallied around.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:38 pmBush reads books! LMAO!
August 15th, 2007 at 5:39 pmLet us not forget about Governor Goldschmidit of Oregon with his own children's 14 year old babysitter.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:39 pmObama or Biden but no Edwards...too much spending in his agenda.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:40 pmHere's a long list of Republican child molesters...
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
August 15th, 2007 at 5:40 pmThis guy is a class act.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:41 pmHe is very ...well crazy he goes on this racist bimbo's
show to defend his best buds.Bimbo is the perfect example of a propargandist.He should be locked up with the rest of the skins heads.
Good find...bill....
May the all get their just desserts.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:44 pmwattstheproblem, you asked for it. Your list has arived in #197 with thanks to Bill. Read it wattstheproblem. It's fascinating. But make sure you have a lot of time on your hands. It's a very long list. Much longer than yours.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:44 pmGood find...bill
May they all get their just desserts.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:44 pmYou snobs are just mad because Bush outsmarted you in 2006. Now we have victory in Iraq and a permanent Republican majority. Yay!
Also everyone gets a tax break and a sports car.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:45 pmwho cares who has longer list....
August 15th, 2007 at 5:45 pmIt doesnt matter they all deserve the hell they caused
August 15th, 2007 at 5:47 pmRove's comment is proof libs are driving him crazy. He knows Bush is going down in history as a total buffoon, along with the people who voted for him, and needs to puff-up Bush's "intellect" in a failed attempt to salvage an embarrassing and humiliated legacy.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:49 pm"Part of being a secure America is to encourage homeownership." -GWB [The Rhetoric]
Today we see the sub-prime mortgage bubble imploding.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:50 pm[The Reality]
You snobs are just mad because Bush outsmarted you in 2006
Darn, and I thought it was Rove that outsmarted the Democrats in 2006!
August 15th, 2007 at 5:52 pmBush, like any normal American, wanted to start an oil drilling corporation when he left Harvard Business School. As is the case with most working people, he needed millions in financing and got it from the bin Laden family. Isn't that the way everybody does it?
Every normal American gets a chance to sit on the Carlile Group's corporate board and Bush is no different. He brought his folksy ways to the board and told jokes at meetings. And, like most Americans, he was asked to resign from the board because the CEO couldn't figure out what he was doing to help the company.
Any normal American with a C-average can get into Harvard Business School. Don't believe me? Just try to get in.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:54 pmAlso everyone gets a tax break and a sports car.
Comment by American Idiot
But I can't afford the gas!!!
August 15th, 2007 at 5:54 pmMost normal Americans who go to an elite prep school like Andover know that it's easy to get into Yale. I told my children over and over: don't flunk out, get at least a C average, and the Ivy League is there just waiting for you!
August 15th, 2007 at 5:57 pmChrist. Now I have to wipe the vomit off my keyboard.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:58 pmBush - a history major? A regular guy? Mister Middle America?
1. No one with a sense of history would have screwed up the Middle East.
2. Oh, to be sure, having the Prescott Bush money, owing the Texas Rangers - sure - he lives right down from me in the trailer park.
3. He wouldn't know middle America if it came up a bit him on the butt.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:59 pmMost elitist snobs with their fancy 60 hours a week jobs just don't get the folksy, down-home, normal American values of Kennebunkport.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:59 pmHis pet goat has more common sense than he does.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:03 pmKarl Rove's example of Bush's encouraging, optimistic downhome rhetoric: "Don't worry. History will get it right and we'll both be dead."
Brilliant! Just brilliant!
August 15th, 2007 at 6:06 pmFunny, Rove used to speak English. I guess Bush had an influence on him, too.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:06 pmMy prediction: after the 2008 election, Rove's name will be mud and Bush's will be Hoover.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:07 pm...because Rush's audience will, very literally, believe anything they hear, I'm going to start advertising on Rush's show my patented, revolutionary medicine that is 100% guaranteed to make anyone every bit as smart as geo. w bush!!!!!!
(that's funny that turdboy basically said dubbie is all the things that those effete intellectuals are - makes them bad, makes him smarter than anyone - old turdy really understood how few cars in the logic train most righties are able to keep track of)
now turdy can get back to his original passion - selling lemon used cars to old people for twice their book value.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:08 pmHarvard MBA + Degree from Yale= Middle America
August 15th, 2007 at 6:08 pmBush has about as much in common with middle america as Andy Warhol.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:09 pmPete #205, you are right on. Rove is selling the same old bs, how many times have they said that Boy George is just a good old guy, someone you would like to have a beer with?
I would like to have a beer with the Chimp and Rove. Shove a long neck bud bottle in their propoganda chutes and bust it with a 9 iron. Then serve them both a big glass of syrup of Epicac.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:10 pm"You hate Bush because you’re a selfish, self-hating American who cheers for death in Iraq for cheap political points. YOU ARE EVIL.
Comment by Hillary is a Communist"
How old are you? You write like you are 12. Maybe you are mommy12 back in a new incarnation. You write at the same level he did.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:13 pmComment by Bill — August 15, 2007 @ 5:40 pm
That's the short list.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:14 pmfunny how everyone damns oil yet majority of you drive and complain about the gas prices.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:20 pmI find it funny how no matter what is fact. It becomes a contests of who has more numbers or a longer lists or did the worst.
I have to repeat myself. I do not like either party. The two party system is the sinking ship of this country. It divides us and will eventually sink us.
When disagree why cannot it not be shame and facts instead of hate and anger.
I just try to point out that how bad you slam the Reps., the Dems have done the same.
A DIMES WORTH A DIFFERENCE.
Stop following so blindly.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:26 pmNewt Gingrich said “none of you should believe we are winning this war. There is no evidence that we're winning. ... This is a phony war.â€
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/8/3/122320.shtml?s=ic
Conservative columnist William F. Buckley said, “One can't doubt that the American objective in Iraq has failed.â€
http://www.nationalreview.com/buckley/buckley200602241451.asp
Republican Senator Chuck Hagel said “The reality is that we're losing in Iraq.â€
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/050627/27bush.htm
August 15th, 2007 at 6:26 pm"Rove’s comment is proof libs are driving him crazy. He knows Bush is going down in history as a total buffoon, along with the people who voted for him, and needs to puff-up Bush’s “intellect†in a failed attempt to salvage an embarrassing and humiliated legacy.
Comment by Pete — August 15, 2007"
Bingo! Rove knows people think Bush is a shallow buffoon so Rover is now jettisoning the "good old boy who don't read the papers" talking point and is trying to appeal to the historians who will write Bush's legacy by claiming and I do mean claim that Bush is an intellect and a well read man.
Funny as hell.
-GSD
August 15th, 2007 at 6:27 pmWhat they don’t like about him is that he is common sense, that he is Middle America.†Limbaugh suggest that Bush critics are frustrated the the President “outsmarts ‘em.â€
What an understatement :)
August 15th, 2007 at 6:28 pmCenter right is what American leans to, not looney left.
Libtards would love to see Rove do jail time.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:30 pmIt's only a dream.
Common sense would say you should cover up the murder of Pat Tillman.
No wait, is that common sense or a sick obscene political play?
Oh, I am so confused. Help me out little Bobby? What would a center right leaning American do with evidence of murder? Shit on it and cover your tracks with Executive Privelege?
Go blow the dog again, he's lonely.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:35 pmIt’s only a dream.
Comment by Bob — August 15, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
And you have inside knowledge on this?
BTW, what's a "libtard"?
August 15th, 2007 at 6:42 pmhey bob - I've got some awesome medicine that is guaranteed to make you 100% as smart as GWB - it's only $79.95 a bottle, shipped right to your door, and I do take credit cards, so you might want to get an order in while supplies last - all of my last shipment went directly to the American Enterprise Institute, and they're about to re-order, so act now, while supplies last!
praise jesus!
August 15th, 2007 at 6:42 pmHaving listened to KKKar's reamrks, I think he's gonna do stand up. This stuff is hysterical.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:42 pmLooks like TP has been deleting again. Sweeet. It's actually kind of fun to see the crap and watch it disappear. Too bad about the time, effort, and expense of fighting off vandals though. I hope they get things straightened out soon.
Back on topic; I still think people have to pay close attention to "Herr Rove". I'm gravely concerned about what he will do next, how he intends to do it, and who he's planning on doing it to.
Unless he's dying, or certain of being prosecuted resulting in being "fired", I can't imagine him "retiring".
August 15th, 2007 at 6:43 pm"Rove argued Bush is far more intelligent than people give him credit for, and is 'one of the best-read people I’ve ever met' whose “passion is history."
If Bush is all that and bag of chips, how come the clown gets all the latest information about this country from the newspapers? More important, if Bush was that intelligent as Tubby McTreason says, why was he given a NBC tape of the Katrina catastophe to view and waited for days to help the victim with help? With brains like that, who needs enemies? Oh and, Karl, we should be so proud of our intelligent-in-chief for our country being the hoppin town of a "booming economy". The banks are so glad for the overwhelming amount of foreclosured homes in this "hoppin" country.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:44 pmwattstheproblem: "funny how everyone damns oil yet majority of you drive and complain about the gas prices."
Funny how at a time when we are held hostage by terrorist-supporting middle-eastern oil producers, congressional republicans gave tax breaks to people for buying huge gas guzzlers and took away tax breaks for buying fuel-efficient vehicles.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:56 pmkarl, pass the dutchie on the left hand side. It works better this way.
August 15th, 2007 at 6:58 pmLike most normal, folksy Americans, Bush, when told by his corporate attorneys that since he was a corporate board member, he shouldn't sell off his Harken stock or he'd be guilty of insider trading, sold his stock anyway.
He had the down-home common sense to know that his Dad would derail any investigation by the SEC. Snobbish elitists just don't understand this.
August 15th, 2007 at 7:04 pmBack in the 60's and 70's, snobbish, elitist draftees slogging through the mud in Viet Nam just didn't understand the danger members of the Texas Air National Guard subjected themselves to on a daily basis. If these snobs just had the common sense to have their Dads use political influence to secure Air National Guard positions for them, they could have distinguished themselves as the President did.
August 15th, 2007 at 7:08 pmBush is smarter than you believe. He won the most coveted job in the free world, and that makes you wimpies really angry. He beat retarded Al ( He really needs to wear earth tones) Gore, and cowardice John ( How do I look wind sailing?) Kerry. Bush was elected twice because the candidates sucked. Bill Clinton knew what he was doing, therefore getting votes from republican soccer moms. The democratic party better nominate a better canidate than Hillary. No presidential hopeful has ever won the presidency with below fifty percent positive numbers, EVER!
If the republican party wants Hillary to be the candidate, that says a lot. Their not scared of her. You however should be if you hope for a progressive win.
Comment by Johnny Swank — August 15, 2007 @ 5:18 pm
When will you repukes catch up to the rest of America? So what about the percents of the past, this election is unique for many ways. It is time for a woman in the White House and you can't handle that.
August 15th, 2007 at 7:10 pmComment by corsair — August 15, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
Thanks for the link at
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/nmares.html
You might find the program at the link below of interest as well:
http://911blogger.com/node/10025
August 15th, 2007 at 7:16 pm"When will you repukes catch up to the rest of America?"
If you think republicans need to catch up, maybe you should ask this question amongst yourselves. "Why do we devote 95% of our energy in a futile effort to defame a man that isn't even on the ballot next year?"
Isn't there an opportunity cost of giving the '08 republican candidates a free pass because you solely focus on Bush?
I hope you keep after Bush. His a bad man. And he deserves all your attention. You'll probably get the impeachment you so badly want, if you just keep the pressure on him. Fight the good fight. I support you 100%.
August 15th, 2007 at 7:18 pmThis guy must be a reel to reel projector. He’s full of it.
Comment by r — August 15, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
I think you mean real projector troll.
August 15th, 2007 at 7:19 pmThis guy must be a reel to reel projector. He’s full of it.
Comment by r — August 15, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
R stands for rupuke right troll?
August 15th, 2007 at 7:20 pm"karl, pass the dutchie on the left hand side. It works better this way."
LMAO! Oh, that was funny.
August 15th, 2007 at 7:23 pmCol, Jack; snark! for the Teas ANG post. :-D
August 15th, 2007 at 7:24 pmDon't worry, Paul. There's lots of time left. We'll get to your nominee soon enough. You've got a guy who was personally responsible for the deaths of over 300 firefighters and policemen, a b-level actor who divorced his wife of 25 years to marry a woman 3 years younger than his daughter, a guy who equates his sons working on his political campaign with the sacrifice of going to fight in Iraq, and a bunch of religious fanatics who don't believe in the science of evolution.
This thread is about how elitist snobs don't understand the down-home folksy charm and regular-guy persona of a Andover-Yale-Harvard guy who's part of a family of legacies dating back to the 1840's, and who likes to dress in cowboy costumes but is afraid of horses.
August 15th, 2007 at 7:32 pmHow dumb do you have to be to have someone else called your brain??? "And you are not ashame??? Carl "The Bush Brain" Rove"...
August 15th, 2007 at 7:33 pmare we sure rove is talking about the right bush? - maybe rush asked him about jeb by mistake......but,can jeb read?.....now i'm confused
August 15th, 2007 at 7:49 pmCol Jack is kicking ass on this thread. :D
August 15th, 2007 at 8:23 pm@swank # 144:
I bet you say that about the Kennedy’s and Kerry’s too? When are you going to come up with something original?
Nobody's trying to pass the Kennedys or Kerrys off as "middle America," you feeble-minded buffoon. But: hell yes, they are elites too. Why don't you admit the same about Bush?
Huh is a perfect for you by the way.
Whoa, cutting point there, whatever it is. I wonder if you have any inkling how stupid you appear.
August 15th, 2007 at 8:23 pmGotta love Rove's use of "effete snobs" there. Yo Karl, channeling Spiro Agnew is probably not the wisest course at this point.
August 15th, 2007 at 8:27 pmRove: 70% of Americans are ‘snobs’ who hate Bush's ‘common sense.’
Why does Rove hate America?
August 15th, 2007 at 8:47 pmPresident Dinkledorf's is more common that sense. For example, I continue to live by his nonsensical proclamation when gas prices were at their highest, "Don't buy gas if you don't need it."
Brilliant!
August 15th, 2007 at 8:53 pm"Oh, sorry. Did I just say the president was one of the best read people I ever met? I should have been more specific. I meant President CLINTON.
August 15th, 2007 at 9:05 pmSure, of course, George is an idiot."
Sheesh! And I thought Bush kissed Rove's ass!
August 15th, 2007 at 9:15 pmNot only has Bush been channeling the crazy paranoia of Tricky Dick, but his chief architect Karl Rove is now channeling Spiro T. Agnew.
August 15th, 2007 at 9:16 pm"...people criticizing Bush are “sort of elite, effete snobs who can’t hold a candle to this guy. What they don’t like about him is that he is common sense, that he is Middle America.â€
Whereas, on the other hand, people supporting Bush are
August 15th, 2007 at 9:30 pm"sort of depleted, effluous slobs who hold guys candles.
What they like about him is that he is uncommonly dense, and thinks he lives in Middle Earth.
Hah! We have an illiterate, ignorant, uncouth oaf in the White House but Rove claims that people who make that observation are effete snobs.
August 15th, 2007 at 9:52 pmGWB was actually born with a silver spoon in his mouth (perhaps that accounts for his mangling of the language) his family is wealthy beyond belief, he was born in Connecticut, he went to Ivy League schools, and yet they believe the people who work for a living, but criticize Bush, are the elite ones.
The love fest that must go on in the White House by those in the inner circle must be something to behold. All hail the king, all agree that he is omnipotent and omniscient, all hail our great leader. Rove has been spreading the bulls**t so long, it doesn't even stink to him any more.
Rove's talking out of his a**, as usual.
August 15th, 2007 at 10:14 pmHey, Zooey, thanks. You are kind.
I almost forgot earlier. Bush had the simple common sense to get rid of Sammy Sosa. Most elite snobs don't understand what a drag Sosa was on the Rangers.
August 15th, 2007 at 10:16 pmKarl Rove claimed that the people criticizing Bush are “sort of elite, effete snobs
High school graduates who didn't marry their cousins.
KKKarl is a guy you'd cross the street to avoid, he is so tough and intimidating presence. What are you up to in the bench press kkkarl?
Boy George is what 5'10" and 180 pounds? What a scary sight that must be. I guess we'll see them both in tough man competitions and WWF soon. Boy george doesn't flex his muscles, he doesn't want to rip his suits to shreds.
August 15th, 2007 at 10:27 pmBush isn't middle America. I am middle America.
And Bush may be intelligent, but he is very, very shallow. Common Sense? Ha. All for show. He may be politically savy on what it takes to win elections, or at least steal them correctly, but he has no clue on how to govern... even his own party members are finding that out.
Rove is rewriting history just so George can read it.
August 15th, 2007 at 10:31 pmYou people are all pathetic conspiracy theorists who believe whatever the media feeds you. Snobby does not mean rich. Rich does not mean evil. Snobby is what all of the people who call this president illiterate and ignorant are and really it should just be called lies since it would be pretty unlikely that a guy that graduated from Yale and Harvard business school would be illiterate. Oh wait though, he probably only made it out of those schools because some rich greedy oil barons bribed someone to get him through school. Ever consider that a guy who’s not getting head from an intern might have that timeslot in the day opened up to read a few pages? What’s a kid to do if he's born rich? Should he just blow his brains out since he’s already a bad person? Can you not gain any credit for being honorable just because you were born rich? Pull your heads out of your asses. The guy successfully governed Texas he’s the best candidate for the job running any country out there. You snobby elitist liberals don’t like that about him. You don’t like the fact that he is real and isn’t putting on a show. Go on though, keep being conspiracy theorists, and believe the crap the media spits out. Keep following a political party that requires America to lose in Iraq for their political campaigns to be successful.
August 15th, 2007 at 10:33 pmRegan, are you aware, that in Texas, that the governorship is really just a figurehead postion, like what Bush is trying to make out of the Presidency? The Real power in Texas government is in the Lt. Governor's office. Anyone who grew up in Texas and had to study Texas politics knows that except Bush.
August 15th, 2007 at 10:39 pmBush has ceded the Presidency to Cheney.
Regan, have you ever actually listened to the words that come out of his mouth?
From the first time I heard him speak, I was unimpressed. And my impression of his intellect has suffered, immensely, ever since. Those are his own words.
Unless the "librul Media" is doing a whale of a dubbing job; it should be apparent that intellect is not his strength.
August 15th, 2007 at 10:50 pmComment by Regan — August 15, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
Funniest post of the week.
August 15th, 2007 at 11:04 pmNo, Liberty, I was not aware of that. Kind of makes me wonder why the current Governor (former Lt. Governor (who I strongly dislike)) has been able to influence so much legislation. I grew up in Texas and don't recall having to take any class on Texas politics but I "had" to learn Texas history and I'm glad I did. Really, like most things that spew out of Bush haters' mouths this is just a distraction. The guy cares as much or more about the wellbeing of our country as any president ever has. I mean if he is so rich and privileged why would he want to put up with this crappy job, why would he want to deal with the lies and propaganda that gets said about him on a daily basis? Do you think he's that stupid? If all he cared about was his own interests he'd be sitting on the beach of some island somewhere living it up (actually he'd probably be in Texas). Get a grasp on reality, this guy is president because he loves American and wants us to prosper.
August 15th, 2007 at 11:04 pmComment by Regan — August 15, 2007 @ 11:04 pm
Second funniest.
August 15th, 2007 at 11:07 pmYou don’t like the fact that he is real and isn’t putting on a show. Go on though, keep being conspiracy theorists, and believe the crap the media spits out.
Comment by Regan
Such predictable tripe from the Neocon talking-points memo.
Do A LITTLE research TROLL and you find that Dumbya was such a lousy public speaker when TRYING to sound educated that Rove suggested he play up the redneck angle, WHICH HE AIN'T, and it shows. He still comes off like a little spoiled child who can't BELIEVE anybody would contradict him.
F*CK HIM, AND YOU.
August 15th, 2007 at 11:08 pmGet a grasp on reality, this guy is president because he loves American and wants us to prosper.
Nope. He's an unamerican TRAITOR who wants his OIL BUDDIES to prosper from the DEATHS of US soldiers and innocent Iraqis.
August 15th, 2007 at 11:08 pmRegan
Too bad you couldn't even be promoted to "fluffer" on your last job...
August 15th, 2007 at 11:10 pmRove's first gig: speak at a black tie oil industry affair in Houston for a hundy. Right at home where he a hero forever (oil at 75 and no real energy policy to reverse it). Yeee haaa. Now that's Texas pride.
Ya right, ya fat ____in pig.
August 15th, 2007 at 11:12 pmmy favorite line has to be: "he went to harvard, yale, he's middle america."
are you f*cking kidding me?! harvard and yale?! that's middle america?
and his family is hard core f*cking new england, to the core. bush is everything BUT middle america. and rove is the biggest liar on the planet....
August 15th, 2007 at 11:13 pmhow can rove get away with saying something so plainly false, so patently absurdly false--that george bush is 'middle america'--?
answer: telling rush limbaugh's audience, who are, ironically, middle america.
one of single greatest ironies in this generation of politics.....characterizing republicans, who come from extraordinary new england wealth and privilege, as somehow 'middle' american.
karl rove is one of the most awful people i have ever known. only an awful person would out-and-out lie to 'middle america' like that. taking advantage of people's stupidity is simply sickening. it's, seriously, like manipulating retarded people for personal gain. trickery of the highest order.
August 15th, 2007 at 11:43 pmOne word: nuke-u-lar
August 15th, 2007 at 11:45 pmHas bush finished reading My Pet Goat?
No really, has he?
;-)
August 15th, 2007 at 11:52 pmBush has failed at every endeavor in his life, and if he didn't have his daddy's buddies to bail him out, he would still be under investigation for Securities Fraud for Harkins Petroleum.
Is he stupid? Probably not, but I think that there is pathology there in regards to that Daddy dynamic. I can't understand what you see in him.
But then again, some of my best friends have spouses that ... well, ya just gotta wonder what the attraction is. Do I think that Bush loves the country? Sure. Just like everyone on this thread does, and wants the best for America. But Just because you love something doesn't necessarily mean that you will always do the right thing by her or him.
I think that Bush is Bad for this country. Just as I thought Reagan was. (and even though I voted for him once too.) He is putting us more at risk than he knows. In my gut. That's where I feel Bush's Presidency. It gives me knots.
AS for the Governor of TX. Yep. He has a grand ol' bully pulpit, but then again The Lege only meets every couple of years, no?
August 15th, 2007 at 11:56 pmRegan, you are a breath of fresh air in this hallitosis like website. All I ever get on here is name calling and no real thought or open ideas. I wish people could write their opinions without calling me names etc just because I may not agree with them. I am interested in finding why liberal think the way they do, but never get anyone on here who wants to hold a real conversation.
August 16th, 2007 at 12:05 amBorn in Connecticut to rich, long-time politically powerful family. Summer home in Kennebunkport, Maine. Son of President. Grandson of Senator. Legacy to Massachusetts prep school. Legacy to Yale. Said his base was "the haves and the have-mores".
Tries to get people in poor neighborhoods knocked off the voter rolls because he knows they vote for his opponent.
When asked what his favorite books (plural) were as a child, he could only come up with The Very Hungry Caterpillar. The Very Hungry Caterpillar was not published until 1969, a year after W. had graduated from Yale.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:17 amSTEP 1: "Karl Rove claimed that the people criticizing Bush are “sort of elite, effete snobs who can’t hold a candle to this guy."
STEP 2: "U.S. President George W Bush said he felt "great" on Monday, despite having fainted and fallen from a couch after choking on a pretzel over the weekend..."
August 16th, 2007 at 1:25 amnews.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1758848.stm
Does Laura reading him a bed-time story count, if he's following along (ala My Pet Goat)?
There are hundreds of Little Golden Books available, so it would be easy to knock off at least one a day, just before being tucked in for the night. And during those rare evenings that he decides to stay up a little later, maybe Laura would agree to a double feature.
Curiously (or not), Rove made no mention of what Bubble Boy was purportedly reading. Why didn't Rush ask?
August 16th, 2007 at 2:21 amWhat a great coverup for being stupid and too lazy to use the brain cells that have survived repeated assaults with alcohol and drugs!
Have your number one shill go out, telling the world how absolutely brilliant you are, adding that your playing dumb is just part of an act.
Many others who are similarly afflicted must be wishing they'd thought of this strategy a long time ago.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:55 amWasn't this the same Bush who once said "I don't read history, I make it !!" ??
August 16th, 2007 at 8:30 amComment by Dr Smirithiason — August 16, 2007 @ 12:05 am
So you have been here before? Under a different name, I presume, as I have never seen your current ID.
As for real conversation, you apparently haven't spent enough time here. You can find it from Wayne or Jane Schneider (sp?), Zooey, GSD, Democratic Soldier, Briseadh na Faire (sp?), Marie, Sharon, Bruce Gorton, and many others whose names I cannot think of right off hand. Oh, and your post at 12:05am looks like the first one in this thread of 261 posts. Not trying much to have a conversation, are ye?
August 16th, 2007 at 9:03 amDoes that mean that 75 percent of American citizens are "elite, effete snobs"? Doesn't "elite" imply a minority? After all, everyone can't be elite, or elite would be "normal."
So maybe criticizing Bush is normal.
By the way, who else but a snob uses the word "effete"?
August 16th, 2007 at 9:37 amIf criticizing Bush-Cheney makes one a snob, then YES I want to be one. I am one! I'll go on being one until hell freezes over. Join me all you freedom loving snobs out there. Let's make those geezers our punching bag and say tomaato. I don't mind being a snob for the Constitution.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:17 amThe only thing "common" about Bush is his love of fecal and flatulence references, which he shares with Karl. Bush is not a common man; he's a stupid and undeserving multi-millionaire who in a pure meritocracy would be emptying garbage cans.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:39 amThat he's saying all this on fascist central talk radio is a little like BV$H giving speeches at military bases. This guy is scum sucking bastard and anyone who believes a word he utters is a fool or worse a knave.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:41 amMiddle America, huh? Most middle Americans I know don't have compunds in Kennebunkport and never owned a baseball team or an oil well. Geesh.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:42 amCarl Rove is a jerk. He has manipulated a nation and he has the blood of tens of thousands of people on his hands. To bad there isn't a hell... he'd be going!
August 16th, 2007 at 10:43 amMiddle America? Oh please, this git has more money than all of "middle America" combined, so what the heck if Rove going on about?
August 16th, 2007 at 10:44 amHe wouldn't know "middle America" if it hit him in the gut!
And anyone with rich parents can get into Yale and Harvard and have their daddy buy them a degree. It happens all of the time!
Why is Rove insulting people from middle America?
August 16th, 2007 at 10:50 amdoesn't matter. Rove is gone. Bush will be soon. No one is listening anymore.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:54 amSince when is the richest 1% "middle America?"
August 16th, 2007 at 11:07 amBush is taking the lessons he larned from redin'
August 16th, 2007 at 11:09 am"The Fall of The Roman Empire" and "The Fall of The Third Reich " and applying them to the downfall of the US.
"There's an old saying in Tennessee..."
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/youtube/bushfoolme.htm
August 16th, 2007 at 11:10 amSo the guy who chugs Budweisers at my local bar and wears a Denver Broncos cap is an elite, effete snob? So Bush -- who grew up a rich preppy -- is Middle America?
August 16th, 2007 at 11:21 amThese idiots continue to believe the Chimperor has New Clothes. Rove will be spitting out this garbage til the day he dies, he's become brainwashed with his own crap.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:23 amOh, and if they're both so well-read, it's too bad one of them didn't read the next chapter of American history called the PROGRESSIVE era, that period when the American people and liberal politicians rebelled against the Robber Barons, brought them under control and ended the Gilded Age.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:25 amtell rove to get a degree, then tell me who is smart.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:34 amThe book of ABC's and 123's doesn't count.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:34 amI don't know why Bush, Cheney, Rove and their ilk hate Americans so much. They may say otherwise, but their record shows that disdain on everything they have done in the last seven years from weakening our rights to killing our finest with his war of choice to selling our economy off to China to letting our cities crumble and stacking the rest of the game in favor of their buddies . And when we object, they call us names. Who elected creeps?
August 16th, 2007 at 11:42 amHey Karl, if Bush is so damn smart, as you claim, how come this country has so many serious unsolved problems, be it Iraq, Katrina, immigration, health care --- you name it.
It seems to me that the more apt description is worst President ever.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:44 am#280: Who elected these creeps? The same people who not only hate others but hate themselves. The same people who would shoot you in the back for being a liberal before they would drop their Jack Daniels bottle.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:44 ami'd rather be a libtard than a bobtard -
August 16th, 2007 at 11:48 amApparently, Rove is moving on to stand-up comedy. Good for him. He's quite funny.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:48 amAndover, Yale, Skull and Bones, yup... just an ordinary guy. The only thing ordinary is his mediocre mind. Karl is delusional but that's not news to anyone.
August 16th, 2007 at 12:04 pmI hope that when Rove mentions "middle America"...he really means the middle of the top 1 percent wage earners in America. Because that might be true.
August 16th, 2007 at 12:09 pmCorrect Karl!! And up is down, left is right, 2+2=7, black is white and thank you for smoking!!
August 16th, 2007 at 12:10 pmI think we just heard the thesis of Rove's book on Bush he is planing to write. Yawn.
August 16th, 2007 at 12:12 pmThis creep(ROVE) should be in prison,,local,,state,,federal .No one has done more damage to this country than this CREATURE..NO ONE....I blame the person that brought him into the fold and that is BUSH 1...Proud of yourself,,,BUSH 1??..........................Charles Belenchia
August 16th, 2007 at 12:21 pmKarl needs to give it a rest. The only thing Bush knows about middle America is that those are the people he wants fighting his war. Clinton is right, he is a Republican, and as such America the national entity means more to him than any "invisible" living here--excluding his family and cronies. His policy has been to lead by division, i.e. divide and conquer. They polarize the middle class over homosexuality and religion, and this allows them cover for their economic policies that enrich the aristocracy. I do agree however that Bush does effectively use the "village idiot" persona.
Republicans argue that support for the state will "trickle down" to the people, and Democrats argue that support for the people will uplift the state. In short Republicans want a trough and Democrats want free grazing. The trough leads to social Darwinsim because only the fittest can elbow the room necessary to feed. Rove would have you believe everyone gets to eat at the trough, but the trough is the very buffer that allows the aristocracy. And even though they are pigs there is still a "dress code" at the trough; in other words you must look and act a certain way to be given access to feed.
August 16th, 2007 at 12:26 pm"He keeps sayin', 'hey, I'm the leader of the Free World'!!"
Like it's a joke. Like he's in 8th grade and his parents let him stay home alone. What a tragedy this whole administration is.
August 16th, 2007 at 12:26 pmI see rove is revving up the smear machine, what a piece of crap.
August 16th, 2007 at 12:27 pmSounds like Rove and Bush are Olympic Bookworms! What exactly did Bush read ? Can Bush give us a book report ? Bet He Can't RECALL what he read!Too bad Bush put aside the documents "Binladden determined to attack" And the U.S. Constitution. I would sooner believe Bush read My Pet Goat 94 times, in an effort to finally understand what he had read.Than believe Bush read a single book in his entire life!
August 16th, 2007 at 12:30 pmIt has been said over and over again: when we have leadership by heredity not ability we get an ass instead of a lion. Rove, for all of his Machiavellian genius, is just another mule pulling with the team.
The public wants what the public gets.
OBoy
August 16th, 2007 at 12:36 pmUp is down. Black is white. Rove's favorite psychological insight - repeat a lie often enough and people begin to assume it must be true.
August 16th, 2007 at 12:44 pmObviously leaving the White House is allowing Rove to be Rove. Spending more time with his family, my foot! Dems should be on the alert. This is just the beginning, and it's not going to get better. He's going to be the Repub attack dog from now until 2008. Dems had better get their response machine going. Let's hope they don't make Kerry's mistake allowing his comments to go unchallenged.
August 16th, 2007 at 12:55 pmIt's this administration's willingness to peddle nonsense like this as "truth" that causes me to wonder why they don't legalize marijuana. Because we'd all have to be high to believe stuff and nonsense like this.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:02 pmI see that the perennial right-wing smear of (D)Rep. Barney Frank, who just happens to be gay, has made its way here. A few facts - I know, facts have a well-known liberal bias - Frank tried to help a young gay man living on the streets by taking him in. He took advantage of Frank's hospitality by using his residence to prostitute himself. Frank asked him to leave. End of the scandalous story. No good deed shall go unpunished. Anyway, doesn't quite compare to (R) Rep. Foley's sleazy e-mails, does it?.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:12 pm"He has a passion for history"???
That must be Nazi history relating to his family. He learned it from his grandfather and his father. The rest, as he said before, is only a coma.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:13 pm"Common sense"???
Yeah, I guess if your objective is to destroy America's reputation in the world, decimate the strength of our armed forces, precipitate massive bloodshed in a foreign civil war, unify and embolden our enemies, destroy the environment, hobble the middle class and create more poor people, yes, I guess Bush has a lot of common sense.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:14 pm"That...you know...can't hold a candle to this guy..because, you know..I helped fill him so full of shit that he would easily take fire and indiscriminately burn up towards oblivion come."
Well, we gave these clowns a whole lot of credits to a humongous amount of doubts, handed Bush and Rove so much slack of rope that in the end...they hung all of us with it
August 16th, 2007 at 1:25 pmI'm not an effete "Upper East Side" snob. I think George Bush is a moron. So does everyone else in my "middle America", middle-class neighborhood. There goes Karl's theory.
George Bush also brags about being a C student. So whose fault is it that everyone thinks the guy is less than average in intelligence?
August 16th, 2007 at 1:44 pmRemoveBush - shouldn’t you be killing babies or something?
Comment by Hillary is a Communist — August 15, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
Hillary,
Shouldn't you be in Iraq supporting your boyfriend George's war?
August 16th, 2007 at 1:50 pmIf Bush is such a smart guy...how come he never once, never ONCE, sounded anything other than an idiot in public. Where is the evidence of intelligence?
August 16th, 2007 at 2:22 pmThe talk of Nazis and Rove's ancestry only brings things down to a junior high-school level. Like it or not, for all his odiousness, Rove is an American. One of his teachers is certainly Goebbels but two others are Machiavelli and Orwell.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:33 pmThis is just part of the dividing and splintering tactics Rove has always used, and will continue to use, sadly.
He's playing class warfare, pitting 'them' versus 'us.' Yes, smart, educated, opinionated people who actually care about the direction this nation has gone in the last 6+ years are unpatriotic, stupid, misguided and snobbish.
It's actually his part of the political world that thumbs their noses at the rest of the country--trampling the Constitution, lying to Congress and the American people, wreaking havoc in the Middle East. He has long taken advantage of the fear-prone, uneducated, jingoistic masses. This is just more of the same, and some prepwork for '08.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:45 pmRove plays stupidly into the cliche about the Midwest that they're slow, at least 10 years behind the times, and gullible. Indeed Bush is the perfect candidate for such a mindset, but I'd like to give the people of the center of our country more credit. Now it's up to them to prove me wrong. Maybe next time a war mongering draft dodger with bad hair shows up in a private jet they'll turn their backs and say "It's my country, not yours" and run him out of town on a rail. There's nothing more elitist than saying to a large segment of the population "See, we've got this little war we want to fight. We're not going to tell you the truth because we don't think you're smart enough to understand. Just give us your warm bodies to do with as we like and when we're done with them don't bother calling. We'll already be partying with the rest of wealthy white folks we work for at some corporate glut fest. And excuse me? You think any of our kids should be put in harms way? I don't think so? That's why we give each other tax breaks. We're wealthy and we got that way by fooling schmucks like you."
August 16th, 2007 at 2:48 pmWhat's so middle America about arrogance, ignorance and lying?
If Bush is well read why does he not know anything? Why does he fail to speak native English? Why is his vocabulary that of a 3rd grader?
August 16th, 2007 at 3:03 pmI never understood why people waste their time engaging shit eaters like Hillary is a communist. Heshe is a troll who love to touch little girls/boys. Just ignore herhim. They know the democrats will retain the congress and Hillary will be president and they're going ape shit about it. It's not just Hillary they hate it's the fact that she's a she. The only thing they would hate more is if a black man became president.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:06 pmAustinSF:
ROVE + Alabama Scandal(s) = August Abrupt Resignation + Jail Time for TURD Blossom
READ THIS FOLKS >
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/06/hbc-90000351
Thanks for the great read! One of the best articles I've read in a long time. And, I like your "math!"
August 16th, 2007 at 4:10 pmHas a "passion for history" ...really, now...then why is GWB always intent on rewriting or twisting it to fit his needs? Rove did not graduate from college nor has he aquired any true wisdon/knowledge along his "career path" ...he has only gathered more cunning, conniving, and cruelty along the way.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:39 pmRight. Bush reads.
Right. He's middle American. That's why he was born to a wealthy Republican, East Coast WASP family who bought his way into Yale and Harvard.
If Bush is so middle American, Rove, why does he have a phony Texas drawl? Where did that come from anyway? Certainly not the private schools he went to on the East Coast.
And what books did he read? Golden Books? Go, Dick go. Go. Go. Go.
Rove, you are over. You're a fool and you're dreaming if you think we believe anything that comes out of your fat, doughy mouth. Go Karl Go. You're done. Done. Done.
August 16th, 2007 at 5:31 pmThis has been around awhile...
During the 1988 vice-presidential debates, Dan Quayle told how his grandmother (a multimillionaress) once told him he could grow up to become anything he wanted to be. There was much laughter in the studio audeince, and Quayle paused and said (and I parapharse) "Democrats laugh at that because it's common sense, common American sense."
August 16th, 2007 at 6:08 pmRush and Karl, two peas in a pod. Both are total losers who never got over the formative years when they had no friends and never got laid.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:41 pmDo you see it? Rove is a master at ruthlessly playing on the multitude of unconscious reactive patterns in Americans in ways that no Democrat would ever consider, because most every Democrat is more conscious (enlightened). This is a cyclical pattern that has played out for thousands of years, but one which seems to be intensifying in our world now.
The only way to actually address this is to become more awake and to help wake up our fellow Americans out of the excessive mind patterns to which they are enslaved. This is the causal level. Attempts at all other levels will simply add to the reactive cycles.
Suggestion: Start by listening to The Power of Now and see where you are and who you are.
-Good luck, my friends.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:22 pmIf Chimpy exemplifies what Middle America is all about, if there are any terrorists out there who wish for the demise of this country, all they need is a little patience. They can just sit back, enjoy some popcorn and watch this once-great country collapse into a huge pile of toxic waste.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:14 pmGeorgie couldn't outsmart the rocks I have in my yard. The only people he's managed to outsmart are those who live under those rocks.
Middle America? Give me a break, no trust fund baby ever grows up to be "Middle" anything except maybe the middle child. George W Bush is a spoiled, pampered rich kid who never had to clean up after himself. He won't be cleaning up the mess he made of this country either, he's determined to leave it for the next president.
Jealous? I thank God every day that I'm not him.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:56 pmGWB is no great orator. Still, I have a feeling we underestimate this guy an awful lot. He's done a lot in his life, not to mention getting elected President twice. If you look at all the negative comments posted herein, you just know there is more animosity than thoughtful judgement going on.
August 17th, 2007 at 12:45 amRove is his bud, so he will say good things no matter what. We attribute GWB's success to daddy B all the time, but JFK would never have become President were it not for his dad. Anyways, enough of the reality check, we're free to pan him even if it gets unreal at times.
GWB has a history of drinking maybe.
Reading comic books doesn't count
August 17th, 2007 at 10:42 amWow --
Rove doesn't sound like he's such a happy guy!
Something seems to be bothering him --
maybe he got a little push out the door re the Plame scandal?
Claims that it was Rove/Gannon in the White House also seem to be nagging at him?
And the hatred for 75% of America is clear -- because we know!
The Bush's aren't "Middle Americans," they are criminals wherever they live.
August 17th, 2007 at 11:02 amROVE ISN'T AS BULLETPROOF AS HE THINKS HE IS. HE'S NOW THE SNIPER WHO MAY GET SNIPED....BIG TIME,
August 17th, 2007 at 5:52 pm“sort of elite, effete snobs who can’t hold a candle to this guy. What they don’t like about him is that he is common sense, that he is Middle America.â€
Anyone watching the corporate welfare and tax cut distribution in this country knows exactly who is elite and effete and who is definitely NOT Middle America. Classic Rove BS
August 18th, 2007 at 5:24 amwow, I see that King Karl Rove stepped on many toes. I like the guy myself. He's a cool dude...Every since Karl Rove threw a few grenades hilliary clinton way, the clinton campaign went into silence...I know what, the cat got ya tounge, right hilliary clinton. the clinton camp is very quite now...shut ya mouth then
August 18th, 2007 at 3:06 pmKarl Rove is a genius. He walks out of his office and instantly devalues the most useless sources of news and values the primary news-opinion show in America. It was a sign that the main liberal mass media is now secondary to news (and they always reported news as if they were third rate). Then Rove makes this statement and knows precisely what he is doing; telling the truth and poking a hornets nest.
Liberals are like hornets - small, ineffectual, scattered, and only worrisome in mass. He stirred them up so bad it was hilarious. That guy knows how to entertain real people.
August 19th, 2007 at 9:21 am