Right-Wing Pundits Confess Bush ‘Has No Agenda’
Right-Wing Pundits Confess Bush ‘Has No Agenda’
With the departure of Karl Rove, the media is speculating as to how that will affect Bush’s domestic agenda. White House deputy chief of staff Joel Kaplan argued that Bush will pursue an “ambitious agenda” despite Rove’s departure:
The tank is full. The president’s priorities haven’t changed, nor has his ambitious agenda. When we come back in the Fall, the Congress is going to have a full plate in front of it. [Fox News, 8/14/07]
Similarly, spokeswoman Dana Perino claimed, “We have a lot of things that we can get done.” In reality, Bush’s domestic agenda “has largely shrunk to veto threats of bills passed by the Democratic-led Congress.”
Even the White House’s faithful conservative allies aren’t buying the spin. Last night on Fox, right-wing pundits Charles Krauthammer and Fred Barnes disputed the White House’s contention that it has an agenda:
KRAUTHAMMER: When Kaplan talks about an ambitious agenda, he is really taking one for the team. That is absurd, there is no agenda.
BARNES: Charles is right, Bush has no agenda.
Watch it:
In an interview with the Politico, Rove said, “If there’s a decision to shut down the government, it’s going to be coming from Capitol Hill, not from us.” The White House is attempting to set up the upcoming budget battles with Congress as a campaign issue heading into ‘08. Even the right-wing now acknowledges that the what the administration is asking the public to do is rally behind a President who has nothing to offer.
Transcript:
KRAUTHAMMER: None. It’s over. When Kaplan talks about an ambitiousagenda, he is really taking one for the team.
That is absurd, there is no agenda. The only agenda on domestic issues is to stop the spending bills with the veto and create a crisis over that, and create an issue for the November election.
And even the Democrats are not going to be serious about having an agenda. Everything between now and next year is about forcing a vote on an issue, not as a way to get it enacted, but as a way to embarrass the other side.
The only agenda of this administration is Iraq and related terror issues, like the FISA law. And the title of the most important person in this administration long ago left Karl Rove and attached to David Petraeus. […]
BARNES: Charles is right, Bush has no agenda. I am all for free trade–it’s gone. Democrats are rejecting all four of those free trade treaties. They didn’t extend–so you can’t amend what a treatise does.
Look, here is what the Bush administration wants to do, and it is what they would do if Karl Rove were there. They are going to hammer away at certain issues. One is they want Republicans to get back their reputation for restraining spending. You do that by vetoing all those bills.
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August 15th, 2007 at 2:11 pm.
Why would Bush tell the liberal media about his “agenda.”
Right wing…. come TP, give us a break. We’re not buying your crap today.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:12 pmNo different than the first day he took office.
The man’s a grade A moron.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:12 pmJust look at the rats jumping ship. They are paving the way for any republican contender.
Win at all cost. Stand for nothing.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:13 pmWhy would Bush tell the liberal media about his “agenda.â€
Cause the majority of the Nation would prefer a true leader to the dog and pony show of this Admin.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:13 pmThis is all such bull…
August 15th, 2007 at 2:14 pmI am hearing a louder outcry for impeachment from the masses because of all the talk about Iran and the draft coming from these lying thugs.
no, there IS an agenda, as mentioned:
“…veto threats of bills passed by the Democratic-led Congress.â€
which is why congress needs to loudly proclaim that is the reason they must pursue the investigations and hearings that exppose these traitorous criminals.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:18 pm.
Without an agenda, why has impeachment been taken off the table? It make no sense for DNC to argue, “We have important things to do.” Even the President can’t be clear on what’s important.
Impeachment isn’t a diversion from anything — Bush’s own agenda is an illusion. Impeachment would be good: It would set the agenda, and force the President to pay attention to something. He’s been given many chances to “set the agenda” and has failed.
A failed President without an agenda need the Cognress to set the agenda. Impeachment is needed. It is not a distraction. Impeachment, where there is no Bush agenda, would not “distract” anyone from anything. It would compel the GOP to put the most important thing first on their agenda: The President’s illegal activity and violations of the law: The very things the GOP and WH refuse to put first on their agenda, despite their oath of office.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:19 pmGreat point Katy. Since there won’t be any serious legislation going, let’s get to the bottom of all these oversight issues that went dormant for 6 years.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:20 pmAt least the usual sycophants are admitting that the emperor has no clothes. Some people are Finally seeing the pig for the lipstick. Let’s just hope that this is the fall of pebbles that presage the avalanche.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:21 pmImpeach Bush, Cheney and Gonzales and Save the Constitution.
barnes: …what the Bush administration wants to do, and it is what they would do if Karl Rove were there…
does he actually think kkkarl cannot “advise” from afar?
August 15th, 2007 at 2:21 pm…or won’t?…
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hellinabucket — August 15, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
Great point: Without any legislation going, might as well impeach.
Even when the DNC could block funding, teh DNC pretends it is stuck. No it’s not. The DNC could agree — before the bill starts in either committee — to keep both bills the same in the House and Senate. This would make a Conference COmmittee unneeded, making the GOP threat to “block a Conferece committee” meaningless drivel.
Again, when the DNC has been given power of subpoena, they assent to non-sense threats to support illegal activity. Either the DNC puts impeachment first — and sets teh agenda, which the President refuses — or the DNC need to be targeted for prosecution as well. Can’t have it both ways.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:22 pmRestraining spending? What a joke!
August 15th, 2007 at 2:25 pmmake impeachment the agenda. All other legislatoin isn’t moving. The only legislation this Congress is approving is Unconstitutional.
Either you impeach the President; or the Members of Congress need to be prosecuted by your state officials. Without leadership from Congres on impeachment, time for the States to exercise lieadership and — well before the 2008 election — proseucte these members of Congress for violating their oath of office.
The agenda is defending the Constitution with impeachment and prosecutors. The common element: The defense of the Constitution. This Congress has failed.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:25 pmThe agenda is clear passage to Paraguay when this whole Neocon scam on America is finally all over with.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:26 pmActually, there is an agenda.
Obstructionism and fear-mongering.
Objective is to put on a dog and pony show for the media and make out that the Democrats are big gubmint, terrorist-hugging, flag-burning, gay, communist immigrants, and only Republicans can save real Americans from being over-run by funny-looking, funny-speaking, funny-worshipping people.
That’s an agenda, the outcome they hope is to catapult a Rudi or a Romney into the White House to rebury Dick’s dirty secrets.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:27 pmBush’s agenda of saving Social Security and resolving the problems of Illegal Immigration were brought to a halt when the Dems won control of Congress in 2006. Bush’s remaining agenda of fighting the War on Terror is, by itself, sufficient to drive the Democratic Congress’s poll numbers down to 14%, as he wins funding for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and wins validation for his surveillance practices.
The failure to save Social Security and resolve the problem of Illegal Immigration lies squarely on the impotent shoulders of Bill Frist and Denny Hastart, and not on George Bush. Once John Boehner assumed leadership of the House Republicans and Mitch McConnel assumed leadership of the Senate Republicans, with Trent Lott as Senate Minority Whip, Republicans regained control of their voting block, and have effectively stymied the Dems.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:28 pmThe Joker-in-Chief should just resign like his brain just did.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:28 pmTax Cuts for the Rich!!!
August 15th, 2007 at 2:29 pmBigger TAX Cuts for Corporate America!!!!
“When we (Bush administration) come back in the Fall, the Congress is going to have a full plate in front of it. [Fox News, 8/14/07]”
A great big plate full of steaming Bushit!
Seconds, anyone?
August 15th, 2007 at 2:29 pmSave room for desert!
Oh come on! This is no different than waiting for Patraeus to give his report in September. We just have to wait until the next SOTU to find out! Be patient!
August 15th, 2007 at 2:30 pmRepublicans regained control of their voting block, and have effectively stymied the Dems.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Yes, the Repukes were equal players in killing the horrible amnesty bill.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:30 pmThe agenda is clear passage to Paraguay when this whole Neocon scam on America is finally all over with.
Comment by Chuck Cabbagemallet — August 15, 2007 @ 2:26 pm
I think Bush is going to go down to Panama instead. He apparently had a lot of fun times (coke and hooker binges) there during his father’s administration.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:33 pmThe only agenda Bush ever had was given to him by Daddy & the Carlysle Group…
-Keep the war machine active & spending
-Divert attention with Flag Burning & GWOT
-Tax cuts for the Uber-wealthy
To do this, appoint officials to politicize every arm of the government.
When misdeeds are noticed,…
-Lie
-Deny
-I don’t recall
-I never said that
-Liberal media
-You’re unpatriotic if you disagree
-Wiretap illegally
-Leak covert information
They have an agenda; it’s just not America’s
August 15th, 2007 at 2:34 pmMr. Hendler, then are the pundits wrong now or before?
August 15th, 2007 at 2:34 pmBush is going to veto the next few multi-hundred billion dollar emergency war spending bills?
August 15th, 2007 at 2:35 pmNo, just domestic spending bills.
“Permanent GOP majority” — get real. They’ll be lucky if they survive as a political entity. Time for the DNC to force the GOP to confront this issue in the SEnate: Will the GOP stand with the Constution; or rubbers stamp war crimes. Let the GOP Senators defend their votes to do nothing and not defend the Constitution from this reckless war criminal and his enabling legal counsel inside WH-EOP-OVP-DOJ. It is their recklessness which has made America less safe, and undermined American public and world support for the American model of governmance. Nobody made this reckless leadership do this. They freely chose to defy their oath, embark on illegal warfare, and them pretend it was everyone else’s fault. No. It is their fault. Tiem for a war crimes trial, impeachment, prosecution, and a full, lawful clean up of this DC cess pool. Lazy DOJ staff coussel!
August 15th, 2007 at 2:35 pm“Kevin Good — August 15, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
DNC needs to attach approprations bills to legislation compelling President to disclose evidence related to RNC e-mails, and DOJ Staff firings. Without money, the President is powerless. Force the President to veto the money he needs.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:37 pm#22, Not Canadian,
The Dems control the Congress, and the immigration bill is the one bill that the Dems could have passed that Bush would have signed, against the wishes of congressional Republicans and the Republican voter base.
The Dems only have themselves to blame, hoping to force Reps into “unpopular” positions, while Dems posture, as to their position, without actually casting a vote. This tactic is only affective when you aren’t in power, but when you are, voters absolutely hate it, hence the 14% approval rating for congress.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:37 pm“Restraining spending? What a joke!
Comment by shaker o salt ”
No kidding. Every time Bush or the Republicans start yelling about cutting spending because the budget is too big, all the Democrats need to do is to remind the Republicans and the American public about the 400+ billion “off the books” debt that Bush has run up for the fiasco that is Iraq. Just because it is off the books doesn’t mean that we don’t have to pay it back. Every time the Republicans and Bush start screaming about the money the Democrats want to spend to help veterans and other people who need help, they need to remind Congress and the American public about all the budget cuts Bush has made so he can afford the tax cuts for the rich.
The Democrats have all the ammunition they could possibly need on budget matters, hopefully they won’t be too timid to use it.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:37 pmListening to KPOJ 620 am the 3 hour local spot Portland has on AAR, this morning, I heard a very different tone.. the masses are upset and demand impeachment…because of the talk of Iran, draft, EO 51… from the angry comments and very angry discussion it was felt Congress is not doing its job.. impeaching the bastards.. because
August 15th, 2007 at 2:39 pm1. Wh has the goods on them because of spying, and/or
2. Corporate donors are threatening to pull funds from congress’s campagns…
had enough — August 15, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
See if we can get State offiicals to lead prosecution efforts against Members of Congress. Well before the 2008 election. They have defied their oath.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:40 pm#25, Hellin …
I like Fred and Charles, I just believe they are overlooking dubya’s agenda to fight the War on Terror. They are only focusing on the death of legislation intended to save Social Security and fix our current Immigration policy. I am sure if I pointed out this fact to them, then they would agree with me.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:42 pmBush / Honor
The Consumer Product Safety Commission that just announced the recall of 9,000,000 kids toys was under Bush’s budget axe. Nice, huh?
Jason Hendler played with a lot of lead as a kid, that’s quite apparent.
Jason, still shopping at China Mart? Good, suck on some more toys.
Bush thought ‘agenda’ described man or woman, by the way.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:42 pmHeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 15, 2007 @ 2:40 pm
DNC doen’t have to respond to the Preident or GOP: Conference committees are not needed if the bills are structured coorrection. DNC refuses to zero-out funds. “Control” isn’t real; its what the DNC is agreeing to: Illegal activity. They say one thing, but they continue funding what they could zero-out. The money speaks volumes. DNC is complicit with GOP-President on illegal FISA violations. Funding could be shut down. It’s not. Problem for Congress and President, not just one party. Prosecute Members of Congress.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:42 pm“hence the 14% approval rating for congress.”
-nothing makes me laugh harder than this reichwing talking point.
Americans are pissed-off because our Congress will not rid America of Bushco.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:44 pmSurge = AEI
Patreaus report = White House
Gates = Dumsfeld
Yeah, things sure have changed, but the agenda’s the same.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:45 pm“…the Congress is going to have a full plate in front of it.”
Bombing Iran???
This is about the only thing left on the neo-con Republican “agenda.”
Afterward, of course, Congress would then have a “full plate” of impeachment hearings and prosecutions, including impeachments of any Supreme Court justices who tried to block the impeachment of Cheney and Bush.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:46 pmRight-Wing Pundits Confess Bush ‘Has No Agenda’…or Brains, or Ethics, or Decency, or Clues, or Common Sense, or…
August 15th, 2007 at 2:50 pm“…sufficient to drive the Democratic Congress’s poll numbers down to 14%…”
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 15, 2007 @ 2:28 pm
Link, please.
Not only is this a very old number, it was never true. Every time I see somebody trot this out, I challenge for the link. I have yet to see it.
C’mon, surprise me this time.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:50 pmWell, the power to end the War on Terror IS in the Dems hands, but they choose to fund and validate, instead of defund and prosecute - that IS the agenda that Bush is winning.
I suspect that the Clintonistas are helping out dubya with his agenda. Hill’reh is now the apparent Dem Prez nominee, and she wants the tools she knows are required to win the War on Terror, because her greatest fear is winning the Presidency, only to lose the War on Terror.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:51 pmYes, there is an agenda. It’s call NSPD-51, or by another name, martial law.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:52 pmEven though he’s correct, something about Krauthammer just makes my hair stand up on end.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:54 pmHe’s the creepiest of the creepy neocons. He’s also one of the loudest of the ‘war is great’ drummers.
Bush has no real agenda, and hasn’t for awhile. His immigration bill was pretty much it.
Bush has put all his political legacy eggs into one basket — the conflict in Iraq. He is hoping for some success there, and as his hopes dim, perhaps successfully passing the mess onto the next president and hoping he/she will get blamed for it.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:54 pm#44, KKKarl,
The current Social Security system is NOT an insurance program. Insurance is something you directly pay for, which guarentees a specific payout based on what you’ve paid in.
Social Security is a Ponzi scheme, in which new payers fund the payments to previous payers. This system isn’t failing due to mismanagement of funds or corruption, etc. This system is failing because the system was set-up based on demographics that no longer exist. The payer to beneficiary ration used to be on the order of 80:1, when it was first established, but now it is closer to 4:1, and heading to 3:1, then 2:1. This Ponzi scheme cannot be maintained without reducing the payouts to beneficiaries to stay in line with monies coming in, or by reducing the number of beneficiaries by allowing people to opt into better systems that can ensure an increasing rate of return.
August 15th, 2007 at 2:57 pm#46, missmolly,
Gallup Poll from Time Magazine - I am sure you trust that source.
http://www.time.com/ time/ politics/ article/ 0,8599,1640263,00.html
Dems may have done some work to boost that number lately, but how telling it is that the Dems had to support Bush’s War on Terror to do it. It appears that the Dems have used up the “Republican angst” capital they had prior to the 2006 election after only a single year in Congress, and now have to act like Republicans to gain approval.
August 15th, 2007 at 3:04 pmJason, you are polite. Wrong but polite. The social security debate is something for other posters but your notion of the “War on Terror” is scary.
Answer me this Mr. Hendler, what is this “Terror” we are warring with?
August 15th, 2007 at 3:09 pm#57, KKK,
Call it whatever you want, but the government is currently drawing on SS reserves to maintain payments, because more money is going out than going in, due to a shift in demographics. As usual, you want the rich to pay the difference, but a more stable, longer term solution is to allow people a choice to opt into a better program with a higher rate of return.
You would need to study economics to understand why / how “tax and spend” policies eventually fail, since I don’t have the time to school you here.
August 15th, 2007 at 3:09 pmCongressional Republicans as a group currently have a lower approval rating than do Congressional Democrats, by a six-point margin.
I weep for the wingers.
August 15th, 2007 at 3:12 pmSocial Security is a Ponzi scheme. -JMH
It is a social insurance program. It will remain solvent for the next 40 years at the current rate. So far the Republicans have been fiscally irresponsible and people don’t trust them on social security. The medicare program supposedly fixed under the Republicans is another disaster. The fact is Jason under the Bush plan it would require trillions in loans for transitional costs.
http://www.epinet.org/ content.cfm/ issueguide_socialsecurity
What do you think of the Federal bailout of the ‘free markets’ bad financial investments?
August 15th, 2007 at 3:12 pmsince I don’t have the time to school you here.
Comment by Jason Misongynist Hendler — August 15, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
You’re alma mater, that “Ivy League” school, Stanford?
Or schooling us in the art of women hating?
August 15th, 2007 at 3:14 pmI don’t see where on the gallup poll congress was at 14%. Who’s poll had congress at 14%, or was this another lie spread by the right wing noise machine?
August 15th, 2007 at 3:18 pmI don’t see where on the gallup poll congress was at 14%. Who’s poll had congress at 14%, or was this another lie spread by the right wing noise machine?
Comment by Krazny — August 15, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
I think it was a Zogby poll from some time back, and it required a fair amount of spin to turn it into a significant number. For one thing, the wingnuts kept suggesting it was an indictment of the Democrats, even though the numbers were Congress as a whole. Second, it ignored the simple fact that the numbers for Congress always suck; Americans tend to have a good opinion of their own legislators and a terrible opinion of Congress, regardless of which party has the majority.
August 15th, 2007 at 3:23 pmHendler’s so blasted r’tarded he thinks SSI is running at a deficit!!!!
Well, when your as rich, and as successful, and as educated, and such a playa in Hendler’s little fantasy world, it does make sense.
August 15th, 2007 at 3:25 pmNo agenda!?!? Please. He still working on it. The federal deficit is only $8,972,694,791,992.94
Only a shade over a trillion to go!
August 15th, 2007 at 3:30 pmKKK,
ROTFLMAO - You condemn yourself by your own source -
OASDI tax receipts alone are NOT covering benefit payments and other expenditures, which means you are cutting into the surplus and the interest on the surplus, which is required to cover future benefits for those coming into the system now. 40 years out may not mean anything to you, but it does to those 16 year olds now getting jobs, who won’t have SS in the future.
The time to fix the system is now, when those 16 year olds can opt into a system that will have a return on investment they need for a good retirement.
August 15th, 2007 at 3:38 pmThat’s why you have no girlfriend, you’re a cowardly pansy that won’t admit how f’cking wrong you are!
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 15, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
Hendler doesn’t have a girlfriend, because he is afraid of women. It is apparent in his posts, that he either is fearful of women, or thinks them inferior to him, or both. Not sure which.
August 15th, 2007 at 3:39 pmJason M. Hendler,
“Call it whatever you want, but the government is currently drawing on SS reserves to maintain payments, because more money is going out than going in, due to a shift in demographics.”
It’s obviously you that needs the economics lesson. More is going out than is coming in because of the borrow and spend policies of the ‘fiscally conservative’ party. Tax cuts must be coupled with reductions in spending. It doesn’t work otherwise, and they know this.
August 15th, 2007 at 3:41 pm#78, KKKarl,
ROTFLMAO - You did it again!
How can you be running a surplus when the 16 year old paying in now will only get 2/3 what a current beneficiary is getting?
YOU ARE CURRENTLY PAYING OUT WHAT THAT 16 YEAR OLD IS EXPECTING WHEN HE/SHE RETIRES. THAT IS THE RESULT OF USING THE INTEREST ON THE SS SURPLUS. FOR SS TO REMAIN SOLVENT, THEN CURRENT RECEIPTS MUST EQUAL OR EXCEED PAYMENTS TO BENEFICIARIES.
That’s OK, stick with your talking points. You can only understand tax and spend policies, whereas Reps create systems that fund themselves.
August 15th, 2007 at 3:49 pmThe Republicans have been fiscally irresponsible Jason and the people just don’t trust them with Social Security. The reconstruction of Iraq, according to the ’schooled’ advisors, such as Wolfowitz, could be payed for by oil revenues, they have been way off the mark from troops needed to the time frame set.
August 15th, 2007 at 3:49 pmHendler’s so blasted r’tarded he thinks SSI is running at a deficit!!!!
What a buffoon!
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 15, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
It’s just that the gummint’s been looting the fund to pay for the carnage in Iraq..
August 15th, 2007 at 3:51 pmThat’s OK, stick with your talking points. You can only understand tax and spend policies, whereas Reps create systems that fund themselves.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 15, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
How is the funding for the Iraq war working out for ya?
August 15th, 2007 at 3:54 pmThat’s OK, stick with your talking points. You can only understand tax and spend policies, whereas Reps create systems that fund themselves.
Like the Iraq reconstruction?
The social security accounts created by the OBC2 plan would cut benefits by 45%, and the seperate accounts would not make up for that AND the trillions in loans to implement this plan would have to be paid back.
August 15th, 2007 at 3:55 pmClinton had no agenda in his second term either. The Christ-like Reagan did in 1987, but even he suffered a defeat when Bork was rejected by the Senate.
The best thing for the GOP right now is for Bush to have no agenda. He’ll fall over himself otherwise.
Republicans need a clear head to hone in on Hillary after the dumb-ass Democrats nominate her. At that point, the agenda will be to destroy her with her own words, votes and hatred. That will bring us to victory in 2008.
P.S. That Obama really f*cked up. Talk about slandering the troops. Osama, (opps, I mean Hussein Obama) almost had us fooled.
August 15th, 2007 at 3:56 pm#82, KKKarl,
ROTFLMAO - I guess we can call all Dems failed policies “insurance”, so that you don’t have to explain why you can’t cover your promises in the out years ….
Civil Rights - Dear Blacks, Dems haven’t done anything for you lately, but don’t worry, the 1960’s legislation is just “insurance” on your future - so ignore the man behind the curtain, as well as our high crime and incarceration rates, etc., because you’ve been “insured”.
August 15th, 2007 at 3:58 pmComment by Hillary is a Communist
Hillary is a baptist and is also a member of the same groups as many other presidents such as the CFR. Soros is Jewish and they will continue to see Israel as an ally. But what should one expect who spouts inane baseless Coulterish hate speak.
And, if you want to get technical, the US is borrowing money from a communist country, China, during this Republican Presidency.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:00 pm#88 - Dems have used blacks for votes. Plain and simple - they have done nothing for them. Case in point - New Orleans. Blanco and Nagin sat there and watched black people drown. They didn’t care. As long as they show up on election day.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:01 pm#90 - Borrowing $$ from the Chinese govt to fund debt is a little less negligent than using it to fund your campaign like the Clintons, Gore and the Torch have done in the past.
AND please do not accuse me of hate speech. TP is hate speech. I am just here to defend our President against the unAmerican attacks on this site.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:03 pm#90, KKKarl,
So what, you don’t have enough money in to cover your commitments - you’ve admitted it. Moreover, every year you ignore it means that those paying in now will receive less and less and less and less ……
Reps want to fix the problem by changing the structure so that it is “demographic shift” proof. Libs just want to tax and spend - tsk, tsk, tsk.
You’ve admitted that you are in a deficit for me, stating that you can only cover 2/3 of the current payouts, so you can stop waiting.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:05 pm#95 - Please address the issue - is it ok to take donations from a foreign govt???? I thought Dems cared about corruption. Oh - i forgot, they don’t. They just care about hating Republicans and praying for our troops to die in Iraq.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:06 pm#97 - I seem to be keeping you occupied. I guess this is better for you than forcing your neighbor to have an abortion.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:08 pmAND please do not accuse me of hate speech. TP is hate speech. I am just here to defend our President against the unAmerican attacks on this site.
Comment by Hillary is a Communist —
Oh please, drop the act, Mr Pee, your moniker is hate speech and IS unAmerican. You sound like one of those looney types that have read too much conspiracy theory on worldnutdaily.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:09 pmI thought Dems cared about corruption. Oh - i forgot, they don’t. -HIC
The culture of corruption is a ba*tard child of the GOP, that you cannot deny. And its they who sweep it under the rug hoping it’ll just go away.
In fact, the reason that Karl is probably resigning is because of the Hatch act.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:12 pmBorrowing from china to fund the debt is acceptable to republicans.
That fiscal responsibility is more of a guide line than a rule.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:13 pmI seem to be keeping you occupied. I guess this is better for you than forcing your neighbor to have an abortion -HIC
Well she was raped by a Republican, that said he was a Christian, but then he tied her [only 15] to the bumper of the van and drug her around hoping that would teach her a lesson and cause a miscarriage. BTW who was in that van with you? Your Pastor?
August 15th, 2007 at 4:17 pm#110 - if he was, he should get the death penalty. Oh, I am sorry, I am sure the liberals at TP are against the death penalty. Unless the murderer was a Republican.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:20 pm#112 - you seem interested in having this fight. Liberals have more sympathy for vicious murderers than they do the unborn. You are morally repugnant and bankrupt people.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:25 pm#114 - my god, you need help. You sound like a five year old girl on the playground. You should really get therapy.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:25 pmHIC, you got the wagons circled. You lie but that hasn’t stopped you throughout your posts.
Fear digs deep into you doesn’t it? Morally bankrupt? You haven’t been reading the papers lately about the republican scandels, infidelity and immoral behaivor then.
Your buttons are bright red and easily pushed.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:30 pmThis is not an argument. Even if true, it means nothing by way of an informed discussion:
Discuss the pionts. Or accept you’re not making a contribution to any solutions. Time to prosecute the President and Members of Congress. They defy their oath.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:31 pmBush has no more of your agenda, isn’t that what you’re really saying Dr. K?Divide, Conquer, repeat, right? Or is it Lie, Obfuscate, Marginalize?
August 15th, 2007 at 4:33 pmHendler is a bit retarded. He had his mother dye one foot red and the other green so he knows which color coded (green or red) sock will go on each foot. Since he has not bathed since he was three, the dye is all but indelible.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:41 pmThis appears to be highly misguided and bordering on reckless:
A super majority is not needed to attach funding/approprations bills to legal requirements for the President to turn over evidence of war crimes, FISA violations, and DoJ Staff counsel firings. If the President does nto want to agree to the legislation approving this data transfer, then the bill he needs — the one with the money — isn’t getting passed.
Super majority isn’t relevant. House and SEnate can both — in committee — pass like bills, making GOP “threat” to block a conference committee irrelevant: There’s no need for a Conference Committee when the bills match.
DNC can filibustyer and block funding. Indeed, teh problem is the GOP and DNC jointly pointing fingers at eachother. They choose to jointly fund illegal things. They say they want the war to end, but they refuse to end the funding. Yet, even if BUsh were to veto the appropriations, he still gets no money. Yet, the DNC and GOP agree to continue funding illegal warfare, war crimes, and illegal activity.
The President has no agenda. The GOP wants to block things, or work with the DNC to pass unconstitutional legislation. They could both be prosecuted. No need to wait until 2008. Impeach and prosecute in 2007. WE the Peole are not stuck with reckless DNC-GOP leadership. They can be prosecuted. The American government lack legitimacy. It moves without regard to written law. States have the powre to prosefcute directly the President, VP, and Members of Congress.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:50 pmIt is true that Bush has no agenda left to offer. Fortunately the democrats will block him at every turn. He is truly a lame duck president who is of no use to the American people. He is also the most inept and unpopular president ever. In his case impeachment would be highly appropriate for lying us into this war of choice.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:08 pm“The tank is full”
August 15th, 2007 at 5:09 pmThe tank is full of what?
A septic tank full of shit?
The DNC and GOP could block funding, without a super majority: You fail to comprehend your argument, and this misses your point. “It is if the president is willing to Veto. Otherwise it’s just a stalemate and a futile exercise.” A supermajority is not need to block funding. Duh.
As opposed having no agenda in the GOP, and non-sense claims that a “super majority” is needed — which it is not — this again misses the point:
“So your solution is to have the Congress keep passing riders that won’t pass Veto, so Bush can block things? Way to play into his agenda.
If the President wants money, he can either cooperate with fact finding; or he’s stuck with the bill he either vetos or doesn’t. He has to react. That’s not a Bush Agenda.
Comment by HeyKKKarl_ValiantVenusShotFromUranus — August 15, 2007 @ 4:54 pm
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Where is the GOP Agenda? There is none.
What is the DNC-GOP plan to force the President to comply with fact finding? None, they keep rubbers stamping bills.
We’ve shown that your claim to a “super majority requirement” is illusory. A super majority is not needed to zero-out accounts; rather, the GOP would be required to have a super-majority to add money back. The problem is the GOP and DNC both refuse to cut funding, but plan to continue funding for illegal FISA Acts, unlawful warfare, and other illegal activity.
Way to go at defeating your own argument. You failed to show that a SUper Majority was required. It’s not. The DNC could filibuster; and they could zero-out accounts to compel the President to provide information. You lose.
August 15th, 2007 at 5:26 pmHopefully, a Bush Holy War with Iran is not part of the remaining agenda.
August 15th, 2007 at 9:10 pmBush must seek Congressional authorization if he wants to invade Iran. If he doesn’t he could be impeached for it.
August 15th, 2007 at 9:17 pmBush loyalists and assorted trolls, always looking for someone to tell them what to think and what to do, unless it means abandoning the belief that their Glorious Leader is going to protect them.
It must be horrible for the Bush cultists to realise that their cult is disintegrating. Not even these conservative “pundits” endorse their Dear Leader any more.
Although the Bush cultists may be too busy denying reality to notice.
August 15th, 2007 at 9:30 pmBush has no agenda and his presidency is basically over. He’s a lame duck president.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:37 amBushCo has a domestic agenda…and it ain’t pretty.
It’s all about connecting the “dots.”
The other day, Blue Dog Democrats teamed up with the rubber-stamp Republicans to strip language from a funding bill that would have expressly required the Bush administration to get a war declaration from Congress before launching any war against IRAN.
Combine this with BushCo designating the Iranian Republican Guard a terrorist group, placing any future BushCo action against IRAN under AUMF, thus “legally” making it possible for BushCo to launch an attack against IRAN while bypassing any congressional pre-authorization, and I believe we have enough “dots” to connect.
Plus, after BushCo attacks IRAN, the likelihood will increase that Iranian agents will retaliate and a terrorist act will occur inside the United States.
Thus making BushCo’s recently exposed executive order regarding the declaration of martial law in America in case of a domestic terrorist attack that much more significant. Another dot.
Then, add this dot to BushCo trashing the 1878 Posse Comitas Act, suspending habeas corpus, building $385 million worth of secret detention centers, using U.S. spy satellites to monitor inside the United States (which used to be illegal), the secret telecommunications spying program and a report I just read awhile ago that BushCo is enlisting pastors to help “calm” citizens after martial law is declared.
Gee, so many dots, and so little time…to stop this neo-con Republican coup attempt.
Impeach Bush and Cheney NOW, or within two years I foresee America looking like the Bush-ravaged Iraq of today…and no amount of calming “loyal Bushie” pastors will be able to stop it.
August 17th, 2007 at 2:59 am