“People using CIA and FBI computers have edited entries in the online encyclopedia Wikipedia on topics including the Iraq war and the Guantanamo prison, according to a new tracing program.” It was not known whether changes were made by an official representative of an agency or company, a CIA spokesman said, but it was certain the change was made by someone with access to the organization’s network.
UPDATE: Steve Benen notes Fox News has been editing Wikipedia entries too. And now that they’ve been caught, Fox News is turning its guns on Wikipedia.
Our tax dollars hard at work posting propaganda.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:16 pmThat’s because the truth has a liberal slant. They can’t handle the truth.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:22 pmThe Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight… shoots itself in the foot, AGAIN.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…
August 16th, 2007 at 8:22 pmIndeed, Shane… why does “the truth” hate America so?
And “the facts” and “logic” too… why do “the facts” and “logic” hate America so?
Anybody up for some Freedom Fries? They’re pipin’ hot!
August 16th, 2007 at 8:24 pmFBI, CIA employees editing Wikipedia entries…
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And so is the NY Times, the BBC even Hamas….Here’s a list: http://wired.reddit.com/wikidgame
August 16th, 2007 at 8:24 pmWikipedia won’t ever be a trustworthy source… for anything.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:25 pmand the BBC has been caught to
August 16th, 2007 at 8:26 pm#
Wikipedia won’t ever be a trustworthy source… for anything.
Comment by “peaches” from peaches n’ cream — August 16, 2007 @ 8:25 pm
Siiiigh… I guess we’ll all be stuck w/ Faux Noise and Conservapedia.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:26 pmMorons. You know that anyone even remotely tech-savvy would have taken steps to disguise their IP addy before engaging in such questionable behavior.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:27 pmNot now that your ilk has learned how to type without breaking their keyboards with a hammer. Stop flinging poo.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:27 pmEmpire Burlesque sez:
Well, there’s one thing you can say about those sources…you can trust them to be wrong.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:29 pmYeah, but it’s just Wikipedia, so who cares?
August 16th, 2007 at 8:29 pmComment by Spudge_Boy — August 16, 2007 @ 8:27 pm
Rather seems to be the point, doesn’t Spudge.
Misinformation… how, how “Stalinist”…
August 16th, 2007 at 8:29 pmYeah, but it’s just Wikipedia, so who cares?
Comment by “peaches” from peaches n’ cream — August 16, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
Probably a worthwhile question to ask… anyone but you, that is.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:30 pmWell, there’s one thing you can say about those sources…you can trust them to be wrong.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 16, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
So if we just take what they say, and reverse it, we’ll have the right answers?
August 16th, 2007 at 8:31 pmEmpire Burlesque sez:
Just like everything this administration says, yes.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:33 pm*
that’s not all… heard on rachel:
Vatican ‘edited Adams web page’
Researchers allege the Vatican edited the Adams page
A new internet tool shows how a Vatican computer was used to edit a web entry about Sinn Fein President Gerry Adams, American researchers have claimed.
[…]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/ 2/ hi/ uk_news/ northern_ireland/ 6949153.stm
also - OT, but interesting :
Syria’s envoy to the US has a blog
August 16th, 2007 at 8:35 pm…
And if you believed wikipedia before…shame on you! It has proven over and over prior to this GREAT discovery to contain several falsehoods and could be rewritten by a 5 year old.
Nothing to get excited about. Just more fodder.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:36 pmpeople just edited slant views by one side to make themselves sound better and vice versa.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:37 pmWikipedia says 2+2=4. Now I need Bushco, God, Jesus and the GOP to teach me how to “really”add. You know, so I get the RIGHT answers.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:37 pmif you go to wikipedia for factual information and not just a research tool to get assess to facual information…well, now you know!
August 16th, 2007 at 8:38 pmK.O. is reporting on this now!!! Watch it!!
August 16th, 2007 at 8:38 pmIs wkiipedia where mizuno is searching for his corrupt dems?
August 16th, 2007 at 8:38 pmSo if we just take what they say, and reverse it, we’ll have the right answers?
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 16, 2007 @ 8:31 pm
Every day is opposite day at Fox News. And the people who would believe Conservapedia don’t own computers. Except for our trolls, who probably put the delusional entries they make up on there and then a week later can’t remember it’s a lie they made up.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:39 pmWatching it right now, dixie.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:39 pmK.O. is reporting on this now!!! Watch it!!
Comment by dixie blood — August 16, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
August 16th, 2007 at 8:40 pm-
Who?
oh, what makes the syrian ambassador having a blog interesting…
the US has no ambassador to syria… huh…
August 16th, 2007 at 8:40 pm…
nope bobwurst
I am sure you have though. Because since it is such a reliable source you will not find any there.
If I have to do your homework for you bobwurst…then you are truly a sheep to the politicians…happy hunting.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:42 pmWikipedia says 2+2=4. Now I need Bushco, God, Jesus and the GOP to teach me how to “reallyâ€add. You know, so I get the RIGHT answers.
Comment by pete — August 16, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
Right Bushco edits Wikipedia so it tells its lies then the neocons run their mouths about how its not reliable. Fortunately our side is so used to reading Bushco’s lies it’s pretty easy for us to spot them now.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:42 pmIt’s not “guns” that Fox “News” is turning on anybody.
It’s the people’s airwaves.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:43 pmComment by shane — August 16, 2007 @ 8:42 pm
Wikipedia = Islamo-Libtard organization
August 16th, 2007 at 8:45 pmthe people’s airwaves…what?
August 16th, 2007 at 8:45 pm“If I have to do your homework for you bobwurst…”
mizuno
I did my homework idiot. I provided a list of corrupt republicans. You ran and hid, like a good repbulican troll.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:46 pmmizuno sez:
Sounds like someone needs to do their homework…
August 16th, 2007 at 8:47 pmpeaches sez:
Thanks for letting us know that you need not be taken seriously.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:49 pmQuite considerate of you.
No problemo, Mr. Monkey.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:50 pmre # 32
mizuno, Faux news uses the people’s air to distribute their signals. It’s pretty basic info, I check out this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Federal_Communications_Commission
ironic, huh.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:52 pm“if you go to wikipedia for factual information and not just a research tool to get assess to facual information…well, now you know!”
Says th guy that gets his “factual information” from Conservapedia. By the way, what is the over/under before that wonderful website goes under? Fox’s pathetic TDS ripoff lasted 15 weeks (for not being funny) just for reference.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:52 pmWikipedia = Islamo-Libtard organization
Comment by “peaches” from peaches ‘n’ cream — August 16, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
That’s what you call TP too. Here’s an idea, why don’t you ignore both of them. Don’t call us, we’ll call you.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:53 pmWikipedia = Islamo-Libtard organization
Comment by “peaches” from peaches ‘n’ cream — August 16, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
The entire internet is composed of “Islamo-Libtards”.
PEACHES HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE A ISLAMO-LIBTARD!!!!!!
NEVER PAY ANY ATTENTION TO PEACHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PAYING ATTENTION TO PEACHES WILL BLOW UP YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR PETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KILL PEACHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 16th, 2007 at 8:54 pmpeaches sez:
Wikipedia = Islamo-Libtard organization
Thanks for letting us know that you need not be taken seriously.
Quite considerate of you.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 16, 2007 @ 8:49 pm
No problemo, Mr. Monkey.
Comment by “peaches” from peaches ‘n’ cream — August 16, 2007 @ 8:50 pm
Trip,
That was a magnificent, quick take down!!
August 16th, 2007 at 8:54 pmHey, leave my best bud peaches alone. He is harmless.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:55 pmand before i forget… also from rachel…
and pass this one around:
Diebold has announced it can’t sell off its discredited voting machines business. In obviously related news, Diebold has changed its name.
‘Premier Election Solutions’
August 16th, 2007 at 8:55 pm…
like a good repbulican troll.
Comment by Bobwurst — August 16, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
**Oxymoron Alert**
August 16th, 2007 at 8:56 pm… now they’re gonna try and PES on us…
August 16th, 2007 at 8:56 pm…
mizuno = mizmoron?
You decide! Vote!
August 16th, 2007 at 8:57 pmOk, it’s Wikipedia, so who really cares?
Apparently the FBI and CIA care — WHY?
August 16th, 2007 at 8:57 pm“peaches”, like all insensate beings, has discredited itself by trying to argue with rational beings. “peaches” is done. Next alias please.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:57 pmmizuno, are you doing your homework or are you running off to another thread to avoid further embarrasment?
August 16th, 2007 at 8:58 pm“… and could be rewritten by a 5 year old.”
Comment by mizuno — August 16, 2007 @ 8:36 pm
Sounds like you have actual, hands-on experience here…
August 16th, 2007 at 8:58 pm“peachesâ€, like all insensate beings, has discredited itself by trying to argue with rational beings. “peaches†is done. Next alias please.
Comment by pete — August 16, 2007 @ 8:57 pm
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I told you to leave my pal peaches alone!
August 16th, 2007 at 8:58 pmBobwurst
A list. I can write a list too.
Ted Kennedy
Hillary Clinton
William Jefferson
Bill Clinton
Jesse Jackson
Al Sharpton
Lee Alexander
Gary Condit
Sowande Ajumoke Omokunde
Daniel David Rostenkowski
Don Siegelman
Frederick Richmond
John Murtha, Jr.
would u like me to continue?
August 16th, 2007 at 8:58 pmI do empire. Thanks…My daughter is pretty good at typing.
I hope that was not a slight because that would have been awfully cruel!
August 16th, 2007 at 9:00 pm‘Premier Election Solutions’
…
Comment by katy — August 16, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
And their tag line … “We steal elections for you.”
Disclaimer … “This offer applies to Republicans only.”
August 16th, 2007 at 9:01 pmnice try mizuno, other than william jefferson, none of these are politcans who have commited current crimes. idiot. try again, or go hide on another thread. have you tried using wikidpedia for your search?
August 16th, 2007 at 9:02 pmShane
Damn, hopefully the dems can steal this one back.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:03 pmmizuno hides behind his daughter.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:04 pmpeaches! peaches!
Are you in here?
Has anyone seen my bestest friend, peaches?
PEACHES! PEACHES!
August 16th, 2007 at 9:04 pmHey, leave my best bud peaches alone. He is harmless.
Comment by “cream” from peaches ‘n’ cream — August 16, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
If ‘peaches…’ is a guy then I can completely forgive and >b>pray for divine relief his stupidity…git’r dun…
August 16th, 2007 at 9:04 pmHi again Zooey. We seem to keep missing each other of late.
The trolls, as annoying as they can be, have been tripping on their forked tongues. It’s become so easy, I hesitate to participate. It’s like denigrating Bushco. All we really have to do is allow them to express themselves. The denigration is already done. Poor little trolls. They are having to turn on each other in order to find someone to blame.
God I love the first amendment!
August 16th, 2007 at 9:04 pmIdiot!
Who said anything about current crimes? I will wait till the dems are in the white house when the start their reign of terror and never leave Iraq and probably invade Iran too.
BOth sides are liars and thieves and cheats. Get off your fairy tale cloud about the current crop of political crops.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:05 pmHey, leave my best bud peaches alone. He is harmless.
Comment by “cream†from peaches ‘n’ cream — August 16, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
If ‘peaches…’ is a guy then I can completely forgive and >b>pray for divine relief his stupidity…git’r dun…
Comment by dixie blood — August 16, 2007 @ 9:04 pm
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That sounds sexist, cigar butt.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:06 pmCall ur cable company. Tell them u dont want to pay for fox news. They will tell u it is a package deal. Ask for the basic package deal excluding fox news. It will hurt for a while but this will be the end of fox.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:06 pmgive me a time frame and I will get right on it. just like a politician..changing the standards at you go.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:06 pmDamn, hopefully the dems can steal this one back.
Comment by mizuno — August 16, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
We don’t need to steal elections. We win legitimately. It’s your side that cages and steals votes. Since we can’t get the last two presidential elections back maybe you should just say you’re sorry and slink back into the whole from whence you came.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:07 pmFox, like CNN are not going anywhere…Fox is watched more than any new outlet. So that theory will not work…good try though.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:07 pmHi everybody!
What’s going on tonight?
August 16th, 2007 at 9:08 pmshane
what side it that. I dont side with either one. I think both sides are funny and crooks.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:08 pmBy it’s own logic; anything associated with peaches, cream, or ‘n’, has discredited itself.
NEXT ALIAS PLEASE!!!
August 16th, 2007 at 9:09 pmThat sounds sexist, cigar butt.
Comment by “cream” from peaches ‘n’ cream — August 16, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
It is!! I AGRRE!! I think MEN are STUPID IN GENERAL!!
“cigar butt?” YOU NEED HELP!!!
August 16th, 2007 at 9:09 pmIdiot!
Who said anything about current crimes? I will wait till the dems are in the white house when the start their reign of terror and never leave Iraq and probably invade Iran too.
BOth sides are liars and thieves and cheats. Get off your fairy tale cloud about the current crop of political crops.
Comment by mizuno —
I gave you a short, incomplete list of corrupt republican politicans and challenged you to match it with a dem list. you obviously can’t do it, so you return to your tired lie about “ll pols” are corrupt. You’re the one living on a fairy tale cloud. When confronted with facts, you lie, insult and run away.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:10 pmBOth sides are liars and thieves and cheats. Get off your fairy tale cloud about the current crop of political crops.
Comment by mizuno — August 16, 2007 @ 9:05 pm
You forgot to say Clinton did it too. Are you slipping. By the way, what crime did Hillary Clinton commit? Outside of the Fox News works of fiction.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:10 pm“what side it that. I dont side with either one
mizuno”
another lie.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:11 pmFox is watched during the most time. CNN has more viewers. The mouthbreathers that watch FOX can’t seem to turn the channel after the News, they have to watch the opinionated BS that comes out of the ignorant talking heads.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:11 pmIt is!! I AGRRE!! I think MEN are STUPID IN GENERAL!!
“cigar butt?†YOU NEED HELP!!!
Comment by dixie blood — August 16, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
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Oh, don’t mind my friends, they are really harmless. In fact, I am sure you will love them when you get to know them.
- ‘
August 16th, 2007 at 9:11 pm#
Call ur cable company. Tell them u dont want to pay for fox news. They will tell u it is a package deal. Ask for the basic package deal excluding fox news. It will hurt for a while but this will be the end of fox.
Comment by jack — August 16, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
I’m way ahead of you. I simply don’t subscibe to pay TV service.
DON’T FEED THE BEAST!!
August 16th, 2007 at 9:12 pmFox, like CNN are not going anywhere…Fox is watched more than any new outlet. So that theory will not work…good try though.
Comment by mizuno — August 16, 2007 @ 9:07 pm
what side it that. I dont side with either one. I think both sides are funny and crooks.
Comment by mizuno — August 16, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
It took you one whole minute to contradict yourself, idiot. Or are you so dumb that you think anybody besides neocons watch Fox News. Don’t bother to answer, we already know.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:13 pmComment by ‘ from peaches ‘n’ cream — August 16, 2007 @ 9:11 pm
DISCREDITED!!!!!!
NEXT ALIAS PLEASE!!!!!
August 16th, 2007 at 9:15 pmDISCREDITED!!!!!!
NEXT ALIAS PLEASE!!!!!
Comment by pete — August 16, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
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How did ‘ discredit itself?
August 16th, 2007 at 9:16 pmFederal agency rules prohibit employees from doing this…get the IP addresses and let’s have a hearing!
August 16th, 2007 at 9:18 pm#
DISCREDITED!!!!!!
NEXT ALIAS PLEASE!!!!!
Comment by pete — August 16, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
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How did ‘ discredit itself?
Comment by the other ‘ from peaches ‘n’ cream — August 16, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
GUILT BY ASSOCIATION!!!
August 16th, 2007 at 9:19 pmFOR US OR AGAINST US!!!
NEXT ALIAS PLEASE!!!
1984
Here we go.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:21 pmbobwurst
you lie…u change standards just a politician.
I have no party affiliation. Prove that I do! I want current proof!
August 16th, 2007 at 9:21 pmCIA has been editing things on the net for past 6+ years, so why all the fuss about it now?
August 16th, 2007 at 9:22 pmFox is watched more than any new outlet.
Comment by mizuno — August 16, 2007 @ 9:07 pm
Uh, they may be the most watched CABLE outfit, but their numbers don’t come close to regular broadcast news shows.
Try again. You’ll get there yet.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:24 pmFederal agency rules prohibit employees from doing this…get the IP addresses and let’s have a hearing!
Comment by Pete — August 16, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
Hi Pete. I’m pete, nice to meet you. It seems that great minds are named alike. Welcome to the conversation. Perhaps we can convince “the trolls” that they continually discredit themselves. What with their dishonesty, mean-spiritedness, and self contradiction; it shouldn’t be too difficult.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:24 pmGod I love the first amendment!
Comment by pete — August 16, 2007 @ 9:04 pm
Yes, it is quite the lovely amendment. :)
August 16th, 2007 at 9:24 pmI have no party affiliation. Prove that I do! I want current proof!
Comment by mizuno — August 16, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
The bad grammar, the shrillness… this must be the Joker, AGAIN.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:24 pmI gave you current proof, idiot! I gave you a list of current republican pols who are corrupt. you can’t do the same for dems so you weasel around.
could you explain this a little better, it makes no sense at all.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:25 pm“you lie…u change standards just a politician.”
Psst… Zooey… care for a slice of cheese?
August 16th, 2007 at 9:25 pmIt’s not lib vs conserv. Is it? Did they say it was slanted in one direction? f–a–c–e
August 16th, 2007 at 9:26 pmIt’s not lib vs conserv. Is it? Did they say it was slanted in one direction? f–a–c–e
Comment by r — August 16, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
What are you referring to?
August 16th, 2007 at 9:26 pmIt’s not lib vs conserv. Is it? Did they say it was slanted in one direction? f–a–c–e
Comment by r — August 16, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
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It’s slanted toward lies.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:28 pmbobwurst
follow the bouncing ball. I said somethng like both sides do it.
simple statement. You claim dems don’t and gave me a list of reps. I gave you a list of dems. Then you changed to current dems. I said, how current do you want it.
Simple…both sides are corrupt….
Now was that so hard…
August 16th, 2007 at 9:28 pmIt’s slanted toward lies.
Comment by | — August 16, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
Proof, please, and Conservapedia doesn’t count.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:29 pmshane
just like an emotional child you jump to the conclusion that I watch Fox new because I know it is the most watched new cable channel in the country. And if I watch it makes me a neocon.
I eat vegetables doesnt make me just a vegetarian.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:31 pmPsst… Zooey… care for a slice of cheese?
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 16, 2007 @ 9:25 pm
Heh. I thought that might be you. :)
What type of cheese are you offering this fine evening?
August 16th, 2007 at 9:31 pmCall ur cable company. Tell them u dont want to pay for fox news. They will tell u it is a package deal. Ask for the basic package deal excluding fox news. It will hurt for a while but this will be the end of fox.
Comment by jack —
cancel cable altogether…I did… life is much better, get more done, better health….
August 16th, 2007 at 9:32 pmMost of the news from mainstream media is bull anyway and with an agenda…can get better more reliant news from internet - international news.
CIA employees editing Wikipedia entries
Ok, so some goobe in a thin necktie types something. That doesn’t make his entry unfactural, and it doen’t make anti- “your opinion or mine”.
Right.
I agree they shouldn’t post at work. None of you should.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:32 pmThe bad grammar, the shrillness… this must be the Joker, AGAIN.
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 16, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
Ah, I don’t think so. More michael-ish and just not psychotic enough to be the Joker. Not amusing at all, really.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:32 pmNow was that so hard…
Comment by mizuno — August 16, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
Both sides can be corrupt, AND, this current crop of Repubes looks like a prize winner. There’s corrupt, and then there’s CORRUPT.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:33 pm“It’s slanted toward lies.
Comment by | — August 16, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
Proof, please, and Conservapedia doesn’t count.
Comment by Empire Burlesque”
Wrong target.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:33 pm“just like an emotional child you jump to the conclusion that I watch Fox new because I know it is the most watched new cable channel”
It is not the actions of a child when you say something that is blatantly false to prop up a Republican mouthpiece.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:34 pmHeh. I thought that might be you. :)
What type of cheese are you offering this fine evening?
Comment by Zooey — August 16, 2007 @ 9:31 pm
What? Huh? me?
Cheddar, Camenbert, some fine Stilson…
August 16th, 2007 at 9:34 pm“Ah, I don’t think so. More michael-ish and just not psychotic enough to be the Joker. Not amusing at all, really”
Where are the question marks?
August 16th, 2007 at 9:35 pmcancel cable altogether…I did… life is much better, get more done, better health….
Most of the news from mainstream media is bull anyway and with an agenda…can get better more reliant news from internet - international news.
Comment by had enough — August 16, 2007 @ 9:32 pm
Give up the scifi channel? Are you insane?
August 16th, 2007 at 9:35 pmWrong target.
Comment by JPark — August 16, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
Huh? Original comment directed at Fox? I thought “|” was talking about Wiki. Maybe we score cards here, or jerseys w/ numbers, or something.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:36 pm“Give up the scifi channel? Are you insane?”
Yeah, if I could buy 33-36 on my cable instead of all of them I would but I don’t have a choice. I like my TBS, TNT, Spike and whatever that other one is.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:37 pmDoesn’t seem like michael. He usually only asks questions and won’t make statements to save his life.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:37 pmEmpire, he was talking about the skew of the FBI/CIA edits.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:37 pmProof, please, and Conservapedia doesn’t count.
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 16, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
August 16th, 2007 at 9:38 pm——
Ok, click here.
Call ur cable company. Tell them u dont want to pay for fox news. They will tell u it is a package deal. Ask for the basic package deal excluding fox news. It will hurt for a while but this will be the end of fox.
Comment by jack —
cancel cable altogether…I did… life is much better, get more done, better health….
Most of the news from mainstream media is bull anyway and with an agenda…can get better more reliant news from internet - international news.
Im with u bud pull the cable end of fox noise
August 16th, 2007 at 9:39 pmjpark
Fox News beat CNN in viewers despite the latter’s distribution advantage
August 16th, 2007 at 9:40 pmEmpire, the trolls change their numbers faster than JD Drew.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:40 pmmizuno, no, CNN has more viewers and has more sponsorship.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:41 pmgreat idea jack…just make sure you get multiple sources…today both sides are trying to woo you.
GOOD NIGHT ALL….
August 16th, 2007 at 9:41 pmFox News beat CNN in viewers despite the latter’s distribution advantage
Comment by mizuno — August 16, 2007 @ 9:40 pm
Fox may have more viewers, but it’s still crap.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:42 pmAnd the sponsorship is directly related to the different sets of eyes watching their channel. Corporations aren’t stupid.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:42 pmZooey, they don’t.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:43 pmcancel cable altogether…I did… life is much better, get more done, better health….
Most of the news from mainstream media is bull anyway and with an agenda…can get better more reliant news from internet - international news.
ur right just let them know ur leaving cause u aint paying for fox news anymore i did.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:44 pmNot to mention demographics show Fox viewers are ancient and will likely die soon.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:44 pmfollow the bouncing ball. I said somethng like both sides do it.
simple statement. You claim dems don’t and gave me a list of reps. I gave you a list of dems. Then you changed to current dems. I said, how current do you want it.
Simple…both sides are corrupt….
Wrong. you said both sides do it (do, present tense) I said repupbs are much worse and gave you a list of current criminals. you ran away. I tracked you down here on this thread and you gave a list that was mostly lies, with one current dem crook. this even when the republcan justice dept was doing it’s best to find and prosecute dems for political reasons. you’re wrong, you’re dumb, you’re a republican.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:44 pmWhat? Huh? me?
Cheddar, Camenbert, some fine Stilson…
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 16, 2007 @ 9:34 pm
Don’t trust him, Zooey. Them are all furrin cheeses (even when they’re misspelled). Tell him it’s American cheese or nuthin. Or maybe Monterey Jack.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:45 pm“Everybody” watched Fonzie jump the shark.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:46 pmFox may have more viewers, but it’s still crap.
Comment by Zooey — August 16, 2007 @ 9:42 pm
At least when the wingnuts are in watching FoxSnooze the farm animals get a few hours break. Sheep are big fans of O’Reilly. “Baaaa. Make the show longer!”
August 16th, 2007 at 9:48 pmZoo, interesting reading on the Fox vs. CNN debate. Trolls lie (in this case mislead because they COULD make a case that Fox is the most watched…by the same skeletons every day). I don’t watch either. They both suck. Fox is just worse.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2005
August 16th, 2007 at 9:49 pmbobwurst
saw u finally returned…here is your current lists…have a great night…nice debating with you…take care
Current office holders:
August 16th, 2007 at 9:49 pmHarry Reid: unidicted bribe taker
Jack Murtha: unidicted bribe taker
William Jefferson: has he been indicted yet?
Hillary Clinton: unidicted bribe taker
Ed Rendell: unidicted bribe solicitor
Ted Kennedy: unindicted murderer
Pat Kennedy: unindicted (censored) drunk
Robert Menendez: unindicted bribe taker
Sharpe James: unindicted you name it
Alcee Hastings: impeached and convicted judge/representative
Ray Nagin: say, Ray, what really happened to that $250,000,000 ya got from the Corps of Engineers to fix the dike? Didja think they meant dyke?
The entire government of the City of Chicago
What? Huh? me?
Cheddar, Camenbert, some fine Stilson…
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 16, 2007 @ 9:34 pm
Don’t trust him, Zooey. Them are all furrin cheeses (even when they’re misspelled). Tell him it’s American cheese or nuthin. Or maybe Monterey Jack.
Comment by gummitch — August 16, 2007 @ 9:45 pm
I don’t care for furry cheese, I’m afraid. American cheese? Does that even count as cheese? Ew.
Pepperjack is nice. :D
August 16th, 2007 at 9:49 pmHeh, just don’t call him bleu cheese, that is rude.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:50 pmEmpire, the trolls change their numbers faster than JD Drew.
Comment by JPark — August 16, 2007 @ 9:40 pm
Perhaps we could knock them out w/ tranqillizers and band them. Has anyone tried a catch and release program, drive them way out in the country so they can’t find their way back? It’s worth a try.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:50 pmTell him it’s American cheese or nuthin. Or maybe Monterey Jack.
Comment by gummitch — August 16, 2007 @ 9:45 pm
Havarti and grape jelly on RyeCrisp. Chase it with a, slightly chilled, red wine.
NUMMERS!!!
August 16th, 2007 at 9:50 pmWow, mizuno, look at all those unindicted Dems.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:51 pmDon’t trust him, Zooey. Them are all furrin cheeses (even when they’re misspelled). Tell him it’s American cheese or nuthin. Or maybe Monterey Jack.
Comment by gummitch — August 16, 2007 @ 9:45 pm
EXCUSE me??? Are you discriminating against these fine immigrant cheeses?
August 16th, 2007 at 9:52 pmComment by JPark — August 16, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
It was an assumption on my part that Fox has more viewers, how else to explain the 25%?
Oy, cancel cable completely. It’s a waste of money and brain cells. :P
August 16th, 2007 at 9:52 pmOops! I think Havarti is Danish.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:52 pmPepperjack is nice. :D
Comment by Zooey — August 16, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
Siiigh… you are so difficult to please… pepperjack it is…
August 16th, 2007 at 9:52 pm“Perhaps we could knock them out w/ tranqillizers and band them. Has anyone tried a catch and release program, drive them way out in the country so they can’t find their way back? It’s worth a try.”
You know that dog you had that would pee and poop on everything you own? The one that you had to have put down? Yup, those are the trolls. I don’t want to get sprayed by one of them so you are going to have to get someone else to band them.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:53 pmWow, mizuno, look at all those unindicted Dems.
Comment by JPark — August 16, 2007 @ 9:51 pm
You could make up a list of Democrats and call them unindicted pederasts just as easily. “Argggh! I know they’re perverts! I read it on Ralph’s blog!”
What a maroon.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:53 pmEXCUSE me??? Are you discriminating against these fine immigrant cheeses?
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 16, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
You can’t trust ‘em. They’re all Islamocheeses.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:55 pmMizuno,
of your list, two are current crooks, the rest is just smear and inuendo.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:55 pmChicago is actually pretty clean these days. The governor on the other hand…(he is a dem) you show your neocontroll stripes with the hillary/kennedy inclusions. If we’re going to include “unindited”s iit’s pointless, you’re just making crap up.
EXCUSE me??? Are you discriminating against these fine immigrant cheeses?
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 16, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
As long as they’re documented cheeses, they’re fine. :D
August 16th, 2007 at 9:55 pmgummitch sez:
“American cheese” is an oxymoron.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:55 pmHavarti and grape jelly on RyeCrisp. Chase it with a, slightly chilled, red wine.
NUMMERS!!!
Comment by pete — August 16, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
Oh lordy, I’ll take your word for it. Grape jelly!?
August 16th, 2007 at 9:56 pmYou can’t trust ‘em. They’re all Islamocheeses.
Comment by gummitch — August 16, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
NO!!! Havarti is Danish.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:57 pm‘You could make up a list of Democrats and call them unindicted pederasts just as easily. “Argggh! I know they’re perverts! I read it on Ralph’s blog!‒
I wonder how many indicted Republican pederasts we could find. I can think of several recent ones. Those righties are sick. I wouldn’t let those scumbags around my little guy.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:57 pmbobwurst
saw u finally returned…here is your current lists…have a great night…nice debating with you…take care
Current office holders:
Harry Reid: unidicted bribe taker
Jack Murtha: unidicted bribe taker
William Jefferson: has he been indicted yet?
Hillary Clinton: unidicted bribe taker
Ed Rendell: unidicted bribe solicitor
Ted Kennedy: unindicted murderer
Pat Kennedy: unindicted (censored) drunk
Robert Menendez: unindicted bribe taker
Sharpe James: unindicted you name it
Alcee Hastings: impeached and convicted judge/representative
Ray Nagin: say, Ray, what really happened to that $250,000,000 ya got from the Corps of Engineers to fix the dike? Didja think they meant dyke?
The entire government of the City of Chicago
Ah yes and Oreilly and Weil will look here and call this as an example of hate speech on kos.
Go back to free republic troller
August 16th, 2007 at 9:58 pmSiiigh… you are so difficult to please… pepperjack it is…
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 16, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
Nuh uh!!
You just have something against the hot & spicy cheeses.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:58 pmYou can’t trust ‘em. They’re all Islamocheeses.
Comment by gummitch — August 16, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
Sir, that “allegation” has been disproved. I am an ardent Salamo-Marxist, for the record. For those who don’t know, Salamo-Marxism is a fabulous new political philosophy sweeping the country - the righteous tang of salted, preserved beef products coupled w/ the irresistable humor of the Marx Brothers…
Hmmm… salami… cheese… anybody got some bread, mustard, mayo, and lettuce? And beer, ice cold beer??? Anyone???
August 16th, 2007 at 9:59 pmAs long as they’re documented cheeses, they’re fine. :D
Comment by Zooey — August 16, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
All my cheeses are documented. What do I look like, some sort of amoral cheese smuggler?
August 16th, 2007 at 10:02 pmHmmm… salami… cheese… anybody got some bread, mustard, mayo, and lettuce? And beer, ice cold beer??? Anyone???
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 16, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
Gummitch would know the best beer.
Jeebus, now I’m hungry….
August 16th, 2007 at 10:03 pmGummitch would know the best beer.
Jeebus, now I’m hungry….
Comment by Zooey — August 16, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
Probably a dark beer, perhaps something German.
My goodness, we’re a veritable UN of taste sensations here.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:04 pmOh lordy, I’ll take your word for it. Grape jelly!?
Comment by Zooey — August 16, 2007 @ 9:56 pm
Absolutly! I don’t mean to be crude but. it’s like a “flavor orgasm”.
I once managed a French restaurant. You would not believe some of the concoctions our chef came up with. “Strawberry soup”, “Apple crisp with sharp Cheddar”, and 5 ways to serve snails were just a few.
ANY sharp, or “aromatic” cheese will go with grape jelly. Even Swiss.
“Try it, You’ll like it”!
August 16th, 2007 at 10:05 pmI’ll have the dried cherry and pecan crusted baked brie,
August 16th, 2007 at 10:06 pmif you please.
And a side of onion rings.
To go.
Maybe a few crawdads drowned in butter? Just to get some protein? OK you can have shrimp, if you prefer, but they aren’t quite the same.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:10 pmAnd a side of onion rings.
To go.
Comment by Raven — August 16, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
Oh no… onion rings… the dreaded onion rings… someone had to bring them up… no way that genie is going back in the bottle.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:10 pmAh yes lets see how many more cheese recipies we get lol free republic
August 16th, 2007 at 10:11 pmno way that genie is going back in the bottle.
Comment by Empire Burlesque
Do I know you?
August 16th, 2007 at 10:13 pmFiguratively speaking, of course…;)
Ah yes lets see how many more cheese recipies we get lol free republic
Comment by jack — August 16, 2007 @ 10:11 pm
Nothing to do with FR but, you can hollow out a jalapeno, stuff it with cheese, dunk it in beer-batter, and deep fry it. I worked in a Mexican restaurant for awhile too.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:16 pmAll my cheeses are documented. What do I look like, some sort of amoral cheese smuggler?
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 16, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
From here? Um, yeah. :D
August 16th, 2007 at 10:16 pmDo I know you?
Figuratively speaking, of course…;)
Comment by Raven — August 16, 2007 @ 10:13 pm
There was a night several weeks ago that ended up all about onion rings. It was quite funny. You couldn’t mention them on TP for quite a while without folks groaning, or snickering, depending on your sense of humor.
Yes, we have crossed paths before, amicably. You were talking one night about the jail in the Capitol basement and the many interesting uses of newly forged iron. Then you got called to a fire.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:17 pmANY sharp, or “aromatic†cheese will go with grape jelly. Even Swiss.
“Try it, You’ll like itâ€!
Comment by pete — August 16, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
I’ll try it — once. :)
August 16th, 2007 at 10:18 pmAnd a side of onion rings.
To go.
Comment by Raven — August 16, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
**snort**
Don’t forget the dippin’ sauce!
August 16th, 2007 at 10:19 pmFrom here? Um, yeah. :D
Comment by Zooey — August 16, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
Well… I never… so I look to be some sort of criminal to you - the Head Gongonzola in a smuggling operation… Le Gran Fromage, El Caiso Grande…
August 16th, 2007 at 10:19 pm**snort**
Don’t forget the dippin’ sauce!
Comment by Zooey — August 16, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
See, Raven… Zooey remembers “The Night of the Onion Rings”…
August 16th, 2007 at 10:20 pmWell… I never… so I look to be some sort of criminal to you - the Head Gongonzola in a smuggling operation… Le Gran Fromage, El Caiso Grande…
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 16, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
Well, I find cheese smuggling to be quite the turn-on, but you seem a bit…..sensitive.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:21 pmSee, Raven… Zooey remembers “The Night of the Onion Ringsâ€â€¦
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 16, 2007 @ 10:20 pm
How could I ever forget something so…….disgusting? :D
August 16th, 2007 at 10:26 pmTrue cheese smuggling story: A friend’s daughter brought her a whole Stilton back from a trip to England. This was a nice, ripe Stilton, a small wheel about 1′ in diameter. Very, uh, ripe. So ripe that the center had fallen in. The daughter had it in her backpack, right on top. The customs guy opened the pack, looked in and got a good sniff. “Lady, I don’t know what that is, but please get it outta here!”
She could have been bringing in a few kilos of China White for all he cared.
Mmmmmm, got to love that stinky cheese.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:30 pmNothing to do with FR but, you can hollow out a jalapeno, stuff it with cheese, dunk it in beer-batter, and deep fry it. I worked in a Mexican restaurant for awhile too.
Comment by pete — August 16, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
Them are good. Of course, in Wisconsin they leave out the jalapeño. Just fry up the cheese. Mmmmm, ick.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:31 pm“the many interesting uses of newly forged iron. Then you got called to a fire.”
Comment by Empire Burlesque
Dude!
August 16th, 2007 at 10:35 pmCheese recipe!
3 lbs. squid, cleaned and whole
1/2 lb Monterey Jack
1 large can whole mild chiles
1 cup canned tomatoes, halved
Juice from 2 lemons
Slice the chiles lengthwise into strips. Stuff squid with cheese and chile, close with a toothpick. Lay them in a baking dish, salt & pepper them, chunk in the tomatoes and lemon juice. Bake at 350°F for 20 minutes.
Squid San Jose, courtesy Isaac Cronin
August 16th, 2007 at 10:35 pmI forgot to say: throw the tentacles in there, too. Yum.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:36 pmHmmm… salami… cheese… anybody got some bread, mustard, mayo, and lettuce? And beer, ice cold beer??? Anyone???
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 16, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
Gummitch would know the best beer.
Jeebus, now I’m hungry….
Comment by Zooey — August 16, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
With a sammich like that, you want something with guts. I’d recommend a really over-the-top Northern pilsner kind of thing like Jever or, closer to home, Prima Pils from Victory in Pennsylvania.
Or a good crisp IPA with lots of hops.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:41 pmSquid San Jose, courtesy Isaac Cronin
Comment by gummitch — August 16, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
I had, essentially, the same thing except; the squid was diced and stuffed in a large chili. Awesome!
August 16th, 2007 at 10:47 pm“ANY sharp, or “aromatic†cheese will go with grape jelly. Even Swiss”
Honestly, as a Wisconsinite, I can say any cheese except for Limburgher) goes with EVERY food. Swiss and ketchup? Yup. Swiss and Bologna, you bet. As long as it has cheese.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:56 pmOh, no cheese makes me want to eat squid though!!! Oh, also, I will never eat fig newtons again. They aren’t supposed to be crunchy!!!!! The crunchiness is wasps caught in the process!!!
August 16th, 2007 at 10:58 pmWith a sammich like that, you want something with guts.
…
Comment by gummitch — August 16, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
After your squid recipe, I thought you meant actual guts…. :-D
August 16th, 2007 at 11:04 pmThe crunchiness is wasps caught in the process!!!
Comment by JPark — August 16, 2007 @ 10:58 pm
Extra protein!
August 16th, 2007 at 11:05 pmHi JPark. I don’t think we’ve been introduced. I’m just across the river in Mn. Geography and palette have little to do with each other. If you can’t make yourself try squid, you should at least try deepfried clams or oyster stew.
However, if you can find it, my favorite mollusk is “bay scallops”. Good ones aren’t chewy and have a sweet taste like yellow perch. If you like any fish you would like them.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:10 pmOh, no cheese makes me want to eat squid though!!! Oh, also, I will never eat fig newtons again. They aren’t supposed to be crunchy!!!!! The crunchiness is wasps caught in the process!!!
Comment by JPark — August 16, 2007 @ 10:58 pm
MMmmmmmmm, squid!
Eh, we’ll just call it Calamari and you won’t know what you’re eating. Except for the tentacles, I guess. Hard to disguise them.
Blanched squid in a cold Thai salad!
Deep-fried squid with tzatziki!
Stir-fried squid!
Oil exploded double squid! (with dried squid and fresh squid)
August 16th, 2007 at 11:12 pmThe crunchiness is wasps caught in the process!!!
Comment by JPark — August 16, 2007 @ 10:58 pm
Shrimp, crab, and lobsters are basically bugs. For that matter, I’ve had a few ant, and locust, dishes that were quite good.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:13 pmThere you go, gummitch, now we’re talking good eats! How about “Drunken Crawdads”? What you do is:
Obtain live (or really fresh) crawdads, shrimp, crab or lobster.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:18 pmBring a gallon of cheap white wine to a boil.
Drop in the critter of the day.
Cook till tender.
Serve with drawn butter and lemon
pete, I don’t like any seafood. They all taste like fish. Damn my uncultured palette!!! Lobster in butter is supposed to be good but it just makes me ill (though it is the least objectionable to me of all of the watery foods.)
August 16th, 2007 at 11:27 pmWho doesn’t love Mudvein? :)
August 16th, 2007 at 11:28 pm“Hi JPark. I don’t think we’ve been introduced. I’m just across the river in Mn. Geography and palette have little to do with each other. If you can’t make yourself try squid, you should at least try deepfried clams or oyster stew.”
I am a longtime poster and probably the crabbiest poster. I hate the Vikings but I like Minnesotans :)
August 16th, 2007 at 11:30 pmI have conditioned myself to root for the Packers, as soon as the Vikes are out of it. Yay NFC North! I figure on being a Packer fan by week six.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:33 pmAw carap! Duty calls.
G’night all.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:35 pmLOL. I haven’t been able to root for the Vikes since Corey Fuller.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:37 pmObtain live (or really fresh) crawdads, shrimp, crab or lobster.
Bring a gallon of cheap white wine to a boil.
Drop in the critter of the day.
Cook till tender.
Serve with drawn butter and lemon
Comment by pete — August 16, 2007 @ 11:18 pm
Ew, sick. Boiled alive….
August 16th, 2007 at 11:39 pmGoodnight, pete.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:39 pm“Them are good. Of course, in Wisconsin they leave out the jalapeño. Just fry up the cheese. Mmmmm, ick.”
LOL, gum, that is true. We don’t like jalapeno (we are really far from Mexico, except for the Mexicans, here.) There is nothing better than breaded cheese curds to go with your triple cheeseburgers!!!
August 16th, 2007 at 11:51 pmThere is nothing better than breaded cheese curds to go with your triple cheeseburgers!!!
Comment by JPark — August 16, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
Ouch! My aorta!
August 16th, 2007 at 11:59 pmShhhhh, Zoo, soon they will be taxing us me for being a Wisconsinite!!!
August 17th, 2007 at 12:03 amYou don’t smoke, do you JPark?
:-)
August 17th, 2007 at 12:17 amLOL, unfortunately, I do. Still wondering when red meat gets the treatment.
August 17th, 2007 at 12:26 amYou don’t smoke, do you JPark?
:-)
Comment by Zooey — August 17, 2007 @ 12:17 am
————
Whatchu need, Z?
I got that hydro, I got that Bobby Brown, I got that Thai….
August 17th, 2007 at 12:26 amI love red meat too. I am going to be hurting.
August 17th, 2007 at 12:28 amI am waiting for tanning beds. They would finally be taxing a vice I DON’T have.
August 17th, 2007 at 12:29 am1984 - new speak - new thought - believe what we believe or be reprogramed - is that a book we don’t approve of? - is that a thought we don’t approve of? Resistance is futile.
August 17th, 2007 at 12:30 am