Tony Snow Signals His Resignation, Plus ‘A Couple’ More ‘Coming Up In The Next Month’
Tony Snow Signals His Resignation, Plus ‘A Couple’ More ‘Coming Up In The Next Month’
After the recent resignation of Karl Rove, media outlets speculated on what the rest of President Bush’s term will look like without “the Architect.” The President is “fighting lame duck status,” reported the AP. In response, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow shot back: “As the president has said many times, he’s going to sprint to the tape.”
But even Tony Snow doesn’t want to be around for that sprint. In an interview with the conservative Hugh Hewitt show, Snow signaled that he will not stay until the end of the term. He also mentioned that there are “probably a couple” of other high-level resignations “coming up in the next month or so.”
HEWITT: Are there any other resignations upcoming, Tony Snow?
SNOW: I think that probably…as Josh said the other day, he thinks there are probably a couple coming up in the next month or so. [...]
HEWITT: Your intention to go the distance, Tony Snow?
SNOW: No, I’m not going to be…I’ve already made it clear I’m not going to be able to go the distance, but that’s primarily for financial reasons. I’ve told people when my money runs out, then I’ve got to go.
Snow’s upcoming departure makes him one of a bevy of top administration officials who, since November, have left their posts. ThinkProgress has compiled a list of some of the key resignations:
- White House Senior Political Adviser Karl Rove
- White House Counselor Dan Bartlett
- White House Budget Director Rob Portman
- White House Counsel Harriet Miers
- White House Political Director Sara Taylor
- White House Director of Strategic Initiatives Pete Wehner
- White House Deputy National Security Adviser J.D. Crouch
- Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty
- Acting Associate Attorney General William Mercer
- Justice Department White House liaison Monica Goodling
- Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld
- Army Secretary Francis Harvey
- Joint Chief of Staffs Chairman Peter Pace
- Secretary of Veterans Affairs Jim Nicholson
- U.N. Ambassador John Bolton
- USAID Director Randall Tobias
With so many key staff departures, the AP reports that “Bush has decided he might get more done in his final months by going it alone,” making increased use of executive orders and veto power.
UPDATE: Former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta writes on this subject. From this morning’s Washington Post: “Did the edict from White House chief of staff Josh Bolten that anyone still working by Labor Day was expected to stay until the end really influence Rove’s decision to leave? That’s an edict I did not and would not issue, because I assumed that the people who gave 110 percent every day wanted to be there to make a difference, not because of obligation.”
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I have this image of Bush alone in the White House, not even Barney around to keep up his spirits. He calls the kitchen for a peanut butter sandwich and the phone rings and rings...
August 16th, 2007 at 1:16 pmSnowjob needs to stop and smell the roses.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:16 pmHow is Snow running out of money?
August 16th, 2007 at 1:16 pmGood riddance to bad rubbish.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:17 pmHopefully Darth Cheney will be the first of those "other" officials to call it quits.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:18 pmAnd then the question becomes how much Bush enabling were these Bush "officials" actually up to....i.e. will Bush actually be able to handle the presidency on his own? With the brain gone one has to wonder.
WTF is Tony Snow talking bout? Out of money? Huh? Anyone understand this?
August 16th, 2007 at 1:18 pmThe man has cancer, for Christ's sake. He has medical bills to pay. Don't use that as a reason to bash him or Bush, hell, it could happen to anyone.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:19 pmI certainly don't see Gonzo going anytime soon. Especially since he has the power to fast track death penalty cases.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:19 pmAbandon Chimp!
-GSD
August 16th, 2007 at 1:20 pmI don't put too much stock in this phenomenon. It's been pretty common in our history for people to leave an administration as it winds down. Rove and others like him, however, should be closely watched in their untethered state.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:20 pmHere's hoping the other two are the POTUS and the VPOTUS...
August 16th, 2007 at 1:21 pmI'm sure he had to take a huge pay decrease to work for the President. And with his illness, it's not inconceivable that he would be out of money.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:21 pmAs a cobinet official Snow has some of the best medical insurance in the world, (outside of France). Surely his cancer is not why he is running out of money.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:21 pmI don't want to see any of these people quietly depart into the sunset. I want to see them escorted to a court where they are tried for crimes against our country and the world. And, if convicted, served just punishment.
These people have trashed our liberties, our Constitution, our reputation.
As for Snow, the guy is a smart-ass liar. For somebody who has a fatal form of cancer, one would think he would show more compassion for Americans in general and much less compassion for the man he lies for.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:23 pmHow is Snow running out of money?
Comment by squegeeboo — August 16, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
No Health Insurance?
August 16th, 2007 at 1:23 pmHere’s hoping the other two are the POTUS and the VPOTUS…
I wish. If Rice goes, though, we're in deep trouble.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:24 pmwhat a weak pack of wussie quitters.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:24 pm#
The man has cancer, for Christ’s sake. He has medical bills to pay. Don’t use that as a reason to bash him or Bush, hell, it could happen to anyone.
Comment by dumplings — August 16, 2007 @ 1:19 pm
Maybe if he didn't sell his soul to the devil he'd have a decent healthcare program that could help him with that, although I doubt he's without medical insurance.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:24 pm"As a cobinet official Snow has some of the best medical insurance in the world, (outside of France). Surely his cancer is not why he is running out of money."
Perhaps he's lost tons of money in the stock market :)
August 16th, 2007 at 1:24 pmCya, shitstain!
August 16th, 2007 at 1:25 pmIt seems like a lot of administration officials are "cut and runners"
August 16th, 2007 at 1:25 pmI’ve told people when my money runs out, then I’ve got to go.
so he IS a whore...
August 16th, 2007 at 1:25 pm.
When his money runs out???? - Maybe he has to pay a quarter for every lie he tells.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:26 pm"The man has cancer, for Christ’s sake. He has medical bills to pay. Don’t use that as a reason to bash him or Bush, hell, it could happen to anyone.
Comment by dumplings — August 16, 2007 @ 1:19 pm"
He has the BEST insurance known to this nation, thanks to the US tax payers.......
He does not have to pay for SQUAT!!!! Well, maybe a SMALL deductable but that is it.......
So what is his money issue??????
It's a DAMN excuse!!!! Nothing else.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:26 pmHow is Snow running out of money?
Comment by squegeeboo — August 16, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
It's not Snow, it's America in general, they've stole as much as they can, even stole the money we borrowed to pay off the last money we borrowed.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:26 pm...
and bad financial planning on his part...
whaaaat? ... thought cons were all about those bootstraps...
August 16th, 2007 at 1:27 pmwhatever those are...
"The man has cancer, for Christ’s sake. He has medical bills to pay. Don’t use that as a reason to bash him or Bush, hell, it could happen to anyone."
It happens to people every day. Unlike Most Americans though, Snow is fortunate enough to have insurance and a six figure salary.
Don't use his affliction as a shield.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:28 pmNearly everyone on this list of Bush resignees is under threat of subpeonas, if they haven't actually received one.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:29 pmdeclare a 'national emergency', martial law, suspend congress/ supremem court, he and shooter mc-dickless rule by decree,...........
August 16th, 2007 at 1:29 pm"I have this image of Bush alone in the White House, not even Barney around to keep up his spirits. He calls the kitchen for a peanut butter sandwich and the phone rings and rings…
Comment by Krazny"
Ah yes, imagery reminiscent of nixon's final days.
Except nixon had the sense to resign; shrub likely will simply amble around that big empty white house, shouting orders to non-existent deputies and looking around for barney when he feels like giving something a kick.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:29 pmIt happens to people every day. Unlike Most Americans though, Snow is fortunate enough to have insurance and a six figure salary.
Don’t use his affliction as a shield.
Comment by Master Shake — August 16, 2007 @ 1:28 pm
You're right, people with cancer run out of money and seek new employment opportunities ever day. I'm sorry. Go right ahead and lay into him!
August 16th, 2007 at 1:31 pmThis exposes the lie about Rove having to leave before Labor Day. It was put out that everyone was told that they either needed to leave by Labor day or they were expected to stay to the end. So, why did Rove leave now?
August 16th, 2007 at 1:32 pmYou’re right, people with cancer run out of money and seek new employment opportunities ever day. I’m sorry. Go right ahead and lay into him!
Comment by dumplings —
What? People with cancer quit jobs with great health insurance so they can look for other work? Either provide some examples or pull your head out of bush's ass.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:34 pmBush, in his twilight years, endlessly mowing the grass in Crawford, winding inward in ever tightening circles on the brown and dusty landscape, getting up the next morning and starting all over again.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:35 pmBush and Cheney should resign.
That would give history at least one good thing to say about them.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:36 pmGod bless Tony Snow. I hope he leaves the White House and finds a deal more lucrative than being a Wall Street CEO.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:39 pm"when the money runs out". What is Mr. Snow talking about?
August 16th, 2007 at 1:39 pmI understand Tony Snow's health is a prime consideration. But "when my money run's out"? Is it that his health insurance benefits as an employee of the President don't cover his pre-existing condition? He's not working for free and without benefits is he? I'm sure he had to set up blind trusts or some such thing to take the job in the administration but I'm really confused about how he would even have to consider that he's running out of money. Didn't he make 6 or 7 figures a year working for FOX? He must be being paid at least a 6 figure sallary to take flak for the boss. Is he just being disingenuos or being guarded to keep from talking about his health? He can't be saying that money comes first over service to his country so he must just be covering for his leaving for health concerns.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:39 pmThe anchor chain is getting crowded.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:40 pmBush, in his twilight years, endlessly mowing the grass in Crawford, winding inward in ever tightening circles on the brown and dusty landscape, getting up the next morning and starting all over again.
Comment by Raven — August 16, 2007 @ 1:35 pm
Raven, this visual brought a small smile of contentment to my lips. Depraved of power, alone - sigh.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:40 pmThe Bush trolls have forgotte the Coulter Rule. Because someone is sick or injured or victimized, that doesn't make them immune from bitter, partisan political attack.
As a matter of fact the Coulter rule would allow that the person be attacked just for being ill. For instance Rush Limbaugh mocking Michael J. Fox.
I am not advocating attacking Tony Snow, but I am pointing out the Republican/Right Wing hypocrisy surrounding such matters.
-GSD
August 16th, 2007 at 1:41 pmTony Snow is going to hell when he dies. He has contributed to the death and suffiering of untold 1000's of innocent Iraqies with his daily cover up dance at the press briefings. This also goes for everyone who voted for bush in 04 and claims to be a Christain. You people put politics in front of faith and you will burn.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:42 pmBush, in his twilight years, endlessly mowing the grass in Crawford, winding inward in ever tightening circles on the brown and dusty landscape, getting up the next morning and starting all over again.
Comment by Raven — August 16, 2007 @ 1:35 pm
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Bush will sell his "ranch" the second he leaves office. It's only for show, remember...
August 16th, 2007 at 1:42 pmAnyone else watch 'The Sixties' on PBS last night?
I bring it up because, not only was it a great show in examining the political processes at the time, but how closely Viet Nam parallels Iraq.
Bush, at this point, is in much the same shoes as Nixon. No credibility, caught lying to Americans, and a long history of dirty politics.
Will he resign? I don't know. I never thought Nixon would, but he did.
Is Vegas taking odds on this?
W, if you think it's lonely at the top, wait 'till you bottom. Again.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:45 pm"You’re right, people with cancer run out of money and seek new employment opportunities ever day. I’m sorry. Go right ahead and lay into him!
Comment by dumplings"
Yeah, you're right, what is everyone thinking?
Why, if *I* had access to the best medical care the american taxpayer could provide for me, plus a six- (or seven-) figure salary on top of that, with guaranteed cash flow from book deals, appearances, my own show back at my last employer, etc. the moment this adminstration ends in less than 18 months, *I* would want to get the hell-outta-dodge asap too.
You make perfect sense.
Thanks for clarifying.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:45 pmCaption Contest: "Forgive me Father, for I have sinned...and sinned...and sinned...and sinned...and sinned...and sinned..."
August 16th, 2007 at 1:46 pmBush will be living in his 'secure compound' in Paraguay
August 16th, 2007 at 1:46 pmMr. Snow's comment about leaving only when "the money runs out" casts him as the stoic victim of self-sacrifice, the Good Samaritan who clings to doing good until he is unable to do more. That seems to ignore the decades he spent in private media, which paid him considerably more than low six-figures.
The principal difference between him and the ueber-partisan KKKarl Rove is that he's better looking. He may be going because his health does not permit him to stay; he is not going because the money's run out
August 16th, 2007 at 1:48 pmBarney's gonna have more to do than just lick his own b*lls.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:50 pmI wonder if Darth-Deferment-Heart Attack-Dead-Eye Cheney is going to feign medical reasons and leave. And then they'll install, say, Romney (i.e.) -and that person will run as the VP for Prez.
something to think about.
1-20-09
Are we there yet?
August 16th, 2007 at 1:53 pmWhat? People with cancer quit jobs with great health insurance so they can look for other work? Either provide some examples or pull your head out of bush’s ass.
Comment by Bobwurst — August 16, 2007 @ 1:34 pm
Snow not left a higher paying job to become the WH Spokesman. He always had concerns about bills and a busy schedule.
Snow did not take the job because of the money, he took accepted the position because it is an honor. There is a point for everyone in which money out-weighs a position of honor. For Snow it is now.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:55 pmFox "News" wants its idiot back.
August 16th, 2007 at 1:55 pmSnow did not take the job because of the money, he took accepted the position because it is an honor. There is a point for everyone in which money out-weighs a position of honor. For Snow it is now.
Comment by dumplings — August 16, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
I always thought the job was more of a lateral move ;P
August 16th, 2007 at 1:57 pmLets make a list of Bill "The Zipper" Clinton's, Commander in Heat, resignations. But why? A better list would be of the pardons he gave (or sold) away, or a list of Justice Department attorney's he demanded resignations from, or how about the list of the unfortunate ones who didn't see eye to eye with Bill and are not counted with the living ?
August 16th, 2007 at 1:58 pmWaaaaaaahhhhh!!!
Clinton did it too!
August 16th, 2007 at 2:00 pmSo dumplings, if he took a massive cut in pay then you would think he has some money saved up somewhere. Don't be a fool and think his illness is costing him any money like it would a regular joe. Maybe he spent all his money living a lavish lifestyle thinking he was 'like' the Bush family. At any rate, the excuse is just another cover up.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:00 pmBill Clinton did it TOO!
Besides the Bush Haters can't deal with Bush being president! Unlike the Clinton Haters who obsess about a man out of office almost 8 years!
-GSD
August 16th, 2007 at 2:00 pmWhat's this about running out of money? The press secretary job doesn't pay enough to live on? Do the taxpayers know how impoverished our public servants are?
If Snow has an opportunity for a job with better pay, he has the freedom to leave his current job and go for it. But it's an insult to us middle-class working Americans who manage to pay our bills (with some struggle, at times) on our average middle-class wages to say he's "running out of money" on what to us would appear as a generous income.
And before I get blasted for not making allowances for Snow's medical bills -- I'm sure that he has a very nice medical plan, paid for by us.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:00 pmOh for shiite sake, it's the 'Clinton did it too' defense.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:02 pmre 51
So how is cutting and running honarable?
August 16th, 2007 at 2:03 pm"...or how about the list of the unfortunate ones who didn’t see eye to eye with Bill and are not counted with the living ?"
Comment by Blazestop — August 16, 2007 @ 1:58 pm
Are you suggesting that Bill ordered people killed? Care to give some evidence with that accusation?
August 16th, 2007 at 2:04 pm#38 dxwood
August 16th, 2007 at 2:04 pmI was composing my thoughts for a comment, when I saw that you have already said all I was thinking.
I agree entirely - this is a false claim - but his reasons for saying it are unknown for now. I think he will be leaving for health reasons which he doesn't want to elaborate on right now, and publicly lying for Bush on a daily basis is too stressful on his weakened health.
Soon to be just another broken rusting snowblower,
August 16th, 2007 at 2:04 pmunder a heap of empty cans in Bush's garage.
Comment by dumplings — August 16, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
Oh shut up. He's not feeding a family on minimum wage, is he???
Hi Zooey, how's life??
August 16th, 2007 at 2:06 pmSnow earns $168,000 a year. (of course for the rich elitist republicans this is below the poverty level)
August 16th, 2007 at 2:06 pmhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/graphics/2007stafflistsalary.html
anybody here in chidago city right now?
my kid just called... a bit unnerved... jets flying around the lakefront...
August 16th, 2007 at 2:06 pmpracticing for the chicago air show...
kinda cool, too...
Question: What does Blazetop say when his mom catches him spanking his monkey while looking at coulter's website?
Answer: Clinton did it too!
August 16th, 2007 at 2:06 pmSnow did not take the job because of the money, he took accepted the position because it is an honor. There is a point for everyone in which money out-weighs a position of honor. For Snow it is now.
so where's his honor now if he's quitting?
August 16th, 2007 at 2:07 pmFox “News†wants its idiot back.
That's no fair, they're hording them all...
August 16th, 2007 at 2:07 pmMaybe if he didn’t sell his soul to the devil he’d have a decent healthcare program that could help him with that, although I doubt he’s without medical insurance.
Comment by Smoke much weed?
Be careful what you wish for, I treat many pts from Canada because they cant wait 6 months or a yr to see a Dr, These people are paying 40 and 50% income tax rates for a horrible health care system. You may hear people say that its a good system if you only go in for a checkup once a yr, but getting any sort of fast growing cancer you cant wait for the tests- you come to the US. You know it would be cheaper if they forced us to buy health insurance out of our paycheck instead of taxing us another 20-30% above what we already pay in income taxes. They take out fed,state,medicare and ss taxes, so they may as well just take out the insurance premiums as well, however give the people a choice in what plan they want and what Dr they want.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:07 pmWhen Hillary is installed as Queen in 2008 and she inherits all the blows to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, are people going to be saying the same thing in 2016?
Hillary did it...
August 16th, 2007 at 2:08 pmAren't you supposed to sprint PAST the tape? I think that's what he was looking for to make that work properly.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:08 pmWhat amazes me is that anyone cares he is leaving. It's not like they can't easily find another spokes-liar courtesy of Fox Noise.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:09 pmSnow earns $168,000 a year. (of course for the rich elitist republicans this is below the poverty level)
Who says that also his take home is probably only 100k or less and living in washington thats not a lot of money
August 16th, 2007 at 2:09 pm"Snow did not take the job because of the money, he took accepted the position because it is an honor. There is a point for everyone in which money out-weighs a position of honor. For Snow it is now."
Comment by dumplings — August 16, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
And that's fine. But there's a difference between "I could be making more money doing something else" and "My money is running out while I'm in this job". Anyone who is running out of money on a six-figure salary, even in a high-rent city like Washington, needs some basic lessons in personal budgeting.
He would look less stupid if he would just mumble something about seeking opportunities in the private sector, like everybody else does. Or wanting to spend more time with his family.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:09 pmFunny, the trolls were a lot less supportive of Steve Skvara (the retired steel worker who spoke during the MSNBC Dem Debate. He lost his pension and health coverage because his former company claimed bancruptcy). As I recall, the Repig trolls ranted endlessly, deriding this poor gentleman for his unfortunate position. Where are they now to say that Snow should have been prepared and that his situation is of his own making?
August 16th, 2007 at 2:11 pmThis simply means that Tony Snow has been living beyond his means...something many Americans do. Most don't have the luxury of quitting their current lower income job, as Tony is doing, to just take a job with more money. Tony clearly has another position, paying more, lined up...otherwise he wouldn't be giving up the steady salary he has now.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:11 pmWho says that also his take home is probably only 100k or less and living in washington thats not a lot of money
Comment by realist
Tell that to the folks who clean the pressroom after tony's done for the day. tell that to the folks in the guard houses that surround the whitehouse. tell that to the barristas who make tony his vente latte with skimmilk every morning. tell that to someone who buys your line of bullshit.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:12 pmSnow did not take the job because of the money, he took accepted the position because it is an honor. There is a point for everyone in which money out-weighs a position of honor. For Snow it is now.
Comment by dumplings — August 16, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
Where's the "honor" in lying constantly for the worst president in US history ?
Are you high ?
Drunk?
Retarded?
August 16th, 2007 at 2:13 pm# 38 (DXWOODS) "Is it that his health insurance benefits as an employee of the President don’t cover his pre-existing condition? "
Actually, ironically thanks to Bill Clinton's passage of HIPPA insurance companies can't hold his cancer as a pre-existing condition as long as Fox gave him Health Insurance.
And yes, the Republican controlled Congress definitely helped. It was one of the few decent things they pulled off.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:14 pm"Tony clearly has another position"
Or there's some embarrasing news on the horizen. Maybe his name is on the DC madam's list.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:15 pmIt appears Snow's time is running on empty anyway.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:15 pmTP - With so many key staff departures, the AP reports that “Bush has decided he might get more done in his final months by going it alone,†making increased use of executive orders and veto power.
... scary...
...
August 16th, 2007 at 2:16 pmCut and run.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:17 pmWith so many key staff departures, the AP reports that “Bush has decided he might get more done in his final months by going it alone,†making increased use of executive orders and veto power.
… scary…
…
Comment by katy
Yeah, and with Cheney as his remaining advisor, get ready for bombs to fall in Teheran, and the Straits of Hormutz to be shut done.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:19 pm"The man has cancer, for Christ’s sake. He has medical bills to pay."
I believe the American taxpayers are already footing the bill for Tony's cancer treatment.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:20 pmComment by dumplings — August 16, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
Yes katy scary, but if noone's there to heed his executive orders, and if Congress/Senate overruled his vetoes?
August 16th, 2007 at 2:20 pm#74
August 16th, 2007 at 2:20 pmMedian household income in Washington DC is $40,127.
However, I do agree with you. Snow's income is not very high. Maybe the government should provide him with food stamps.
Snow, with his cancer not getting any better, should spend his last days, doing something good and meaningful for his family and fellow man instead of lieing for Bush and taking part in an evil war that continues to kill and distroy. Too bad he can not see that his life could be put to much better use.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:21 pmAre you high ?
Drunk?
Retarded?
Comment by MCMetal — August 16, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
I'm drunk and high, and I can tell you he's just stoooopid like every bush supporter.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:22 pmPoor Tony needs some dough 'cause he took a pay cut to lie full-time for the fascists, huh? Tough shit. Iraqi women are resorting to prostitution to pay for food to feed their kids. Tony deserves every cancerous cells he's got.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:22 pmWith so many key staff departures, the AP reports that “Bush has decided he might get more done in his final months by going it alone,†making increased use of executive orders and veto power.
Yeah , because the grinning , braying , stupid arrogant jackass has done such a stellar job to this point ....................
August 16th, 2007 at 2:22 pmWhen the money runs out??!!! WTF???
Since when does money run out on a mammonist? Never!
Snowblower, if you and your family live so freaking high on the hog that you can't survive on the salary of a White House Press Secretary, it's no freaking wonder you're a Republican. Hey, I have no problem with rich people like you voting your self-interests. If you're that filthy rich, well, hey, go for it pal.
But I do have a problem with people like you, Snowblower, who lie to con other people into voting against their interests. Snowjob, you're at the tippity-tip of the propaganda pyramid, and all sh!t flows downhill from there.
So a schadenfreudian adios, there, Slick.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:22 pm"When the money runs out, I've got to go." Classic neocon.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:22 pmHe, of course is talking about the broke American economy. The economy that bushco has buried in bad credit. The economy that Bush knows so well. The economy he repeats from his Harkin Oil days. Tony is fleeing the American economy. And just where is he headed? To the protecting of the European bond market? That's where Dickie boy is going. Did Dick give you some insider trading advise, tony?
Go it alone? Other than his inner circle he has been alone.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:23 pmNow, hopefully some of them will go alone to prison.
Funny, the trolls were a lot less supportive of Steve Skvara (the retired steel worker who spoke during the MSNBC Dem Debate. He lost his pension and health coverage because his former company claimed bancruptcy). As I recall, the Repig trolls ranted endlessly, deriding this poor gentleman for his unfortunate position. Where are they now to say that Snow should have been prepared and that his situation is of his own making?
Comment by a patriot acting — August 16, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
Very good point. We recently had a thread (Sicko?) that included a story about a retiree who had a chronic disease and had lost his health care benefits when his former employer tanked. One of our trolls claimed it was the guy's own fault for not having a backup plan. Somehow, I think we'll not hear from that troll about Snow's failure to properly plan his life.
During WWII, a lot of successful businessmen came to Washington for a dollar a year in order to help with the war effort. In spite of their loud noises about the War on Terra, I don't think we'll see much of that from the "conservatives."
August 16th, 2007 at 2:23 pmMaybe Tony can man the ladle at one of the many soup-kitchens that his boss in the process of creating.
-GSD
August 16th, 2007 at 2:24 pmBring on the stooges. There are plenty of of wantabee whoo will sacrifice for a title after their names.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:25 pmMedian household income in Washington DC is $40,127.
However, I do agree with you. Snow’s income is not very high. Maybe the government should provide him with food stamps
40g is about what i make as well, However living frugally for the past 6 yrs (after911) I paid off my house and have no other debt. I dont fault tony for leaving, I sure his job isnt helping his cancer any and any time he has left he probably needs to get out of washington, As far as him needing money, i doubt it as many people would help him pay his medical bills.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:28 pm... if no one’s there to heed his executive orders, and if Congress/Senate overruled his vetoes?
Comment by doro — August 16, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
it had better, is all i can say... we all better hope.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:28 pm...
It might be that when you die, you run out of money...
I'm sorry, but I feel for Snow. It's a horrible way to go.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:28 pmTony has the look of a soon-to-be-dead-man and wants to spend his last months with family. Understandable!
As to going to hell, I don't believe in it, but for the neocons there are days I get so angry with them that I wish there were.
I seldom quote the Bible but "they know not what they do". The "why" of that is what baffles me.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:29 pmBoo f'n Hoo
You don't feel sorry for him because of the cancer, you feel sorry for him because he went from most likely a million a year salary down to perhaps $300,000 a year PLUS free health care. Maybe you make the same and can feel his pain? To SnowJob I guess that's just scraping by. He couldn't afford the new Lexus this year.
What's really pathetic is that he didn't even bother to use the more acceptable excuse that Rove used - spending more time with the family. It's all about "running out of money". Running out of superfluous spending cash. Greed. Book deals and new Reich Wing shrill show offers are just too tempting to fulfill his "honor(able)" term.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:32 pmI wish Tony would go home now and spend the remaining time he has on this earth being near his family, playing with his kids. Time is short for all of us, and he's pissing it away shilling for this failure of a president.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:36 pmCome on, the guy's got cancer and a family. And frankly, he's ntelligent enough to see that Cheney is running the country and can't be stopped by Bush's press spokesman.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:37 pm'Running out of money' is akin to 'spending more time with the family', me thinks.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:38 pm"...he’s ntelligent enough to see that Cheney is running the country and can’t be stopped by Bush’s press spokesman."
As if he wanted to. Yeah, right.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:42 pmOh Bush could be all alone in the White House with a potted petunia for company and an approval rating hovering around 1%, and the Democrats would STILL be afraid of him.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:43 pmGuess Dana better brush up on her lying skills.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:45 pmWay back in 1994, our Congressman (David Price, D-NC) was defeated by a guy named Fred Heineman, who was swept into office via Newt's Contract With America.
Fred only lasted one term. Price beat him in the 1996 election. It wasn't that Fred voted the wrong way -- he was an obedient Republican -- it was that he SAID something stupid that convinced the folks back home that he was completely out of touch with their reality.
What could he have possibly said to turn off voters? He said that his $133,000 salary put him at "lower middle class". When asked by his rather incredulous interviewer what "middle class" would be, Fred pegged that level at around $300,000 to $700,000 per year.
I am reminded of the political demise of Fred when Snow talks about running out of money.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:45 pmWhen his money runs out? How much does he make? I'm sure its more than most people that I know.
What a complete ass...
True patriots would not leave the White House because they wanted more money... greedy Republicans however, are not true patriots.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:47 pm...and may every one of them rot in hell for the damage that they have done.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:47 pmDemocrats would STILL be afraid of him.
Comment by Grimmlok
Photo-ops are skeery!
August 16th, 2007 at 2:47 pm"Tony has the look of a soon-to-be-dead-man and wants to spend his last months with family. Understandable!"
Comment by JOAN — August 16, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
I think almost anyone could be sympathetic to that, but why didn't he just say he was leaving to spend more time with his family because of his illness? That seems a lot more pallatable than taking the money-grubber way out.
As an aside, to all those that are still using Canada as "the example" of Universal Healthcare(#70), remember they are ranked pretty far down on the WHO list of quality of healthcare systems (just above us I believe), so I'm thinking they aren't the best source of comparison. Also, living in the deep south, a co-worker just had to wait 4 months and drive 800 miles just to get a procedure done by a urologist because there are none practicing in our area (it isn't profitable enough because most of the people where I live are poor). So it seems to me you have pretty bad things potentially in any healthcare system that isn't administered properly.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:48 pm"Tony deserves every cancerous cells he’s got."
Comment by John — August 16, 2007 @ 2:22 pm
Not cool. NOBODY deserves this awful disease, no matter what they've done.
But I do agree with the rest of your post.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:49 pm"Bush could be all alone in the White House with a potted petunia for company and an approval rating hovering around 1%, and the Democrats would STILL be afraid of him."
-even the bravest people stay away from wildly flailing retards
August 16th, 2007 at 2:52 pmI wouldn't give Snow a black penny I found in the sewer.
They can jump ship like rats, fleeing from Chimp in Charge, but resigning does not change the crimes pertetrated by this cabal. It really is pathetic to see how gung ho this group was about Iraq and now they're all slinking away into the shadows. Snow and the rest of Bush' s gang-you can all rot in hell.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:53 pmI don't have any compassion for anyone in this Bunch of Thugs posing as an American Presidency.
Snowball is a liar and a purveyor of Mendacity of the Bush Killing Machine.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:57 pmSnow is dying. He just didn't want to say it. I despise the guy but he chose to use the financial excuse as opposed to the pity me excuse.
August 16th, 2007 at 2:59 pm"anybody here in chidago city right now?"
Heh. Yep, I was just out at lunch and I freaked out when I hearing the roaring engines. Then I remembered the date.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:02 pmSnow is dying. He just didn’t want to say it. I despise the guy but he chose to use the financial excuse as opposed to the pity me excuse.
Comment by shades — August 16, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
I have compassion for Snow, and I believe there's an excellent chance that he IS leaving for health reasons and doesn't want pity from anyone.
However, the lie he came up with still calls for pity -- not for his ill health, but for his stupidity.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:06 pmIt's realllly hard for me to have any compassion for Snowball. In the general sense, yes.
Just think of how many people have died (Americans, Iraqis, etc) becuse of the Chimperor's phony baloney war on terror.
Whats one more death.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:11 pm**These guys are hysterical. It's not just Tony Snow (who probably WILL die if he stays in his soul-devouring job). They want to show us that they have been making huge "sacrifices" by working for the White House. Their families. Their finances. How many of them have used either "need more time with my family" or "need more money," as their reason for leaving? How many of them got "real" jobs (non-lobbyist) afterwards, or spent any more time with their families?
August 16th, 2007 at 3:15 pmI'm surprised Snow didn't just say that he may leave to "spend more time with his family and evaluate his opportunities." This would have been more dignified than saying that when the money runs out, he's out of there, and is a rare lapse for Tony.
It would also keep his options open. If he is too sick to work, the all-purpose alternative explanation above covers it, without having to explicitly say that he is too sick to work. And he will undoubtedly be evaluating his opportunities, because as a former W.H. spokeman and Bush apologist, he will undoubtedly have them.
If he has the strength, he can write or narrate a book. He can give seminars to corporations on how to represent themselves effectively. He can give private advice to clients.
And if indeed you are running out of money, I guess that's what you get for working for people who believe in "winner take all."
August 16th, 2007 at 3:24 pmI have zero compassion fro Tony Snow. He can rot from the inside out for all I care. Did anybody have compassion for Hitler when he took his cyanide pill? Snow is only getting what he deserves.
That was a little compassionate conservatism for you.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:25 pmSince when is it an honor to go to work for KKKarl Rove? That's what Snow did. He is dishonorable in the extreme, starting with his lies and propaganda on FAUX, and, without missing a beat, taking the same lies and propaganda in to our White House. Now he sinks even lower into the gutters with his excuse about money. Disgusting.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:30 pmI think Tony Snow should be doing something worthwhile in his life -- not defending a dictator.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:33 pmA true Republican of the criminal Bush Administration as a quote from Tony Snow:
I’ve told people when my money runs out, then I’ve got to go.
Nothing is more important then the money says Tony even his family and sickness take a back seat to the all mighty money. Tony stood in front of the American people and out right lied for the White House all this for money. Tony can be brought by even Satan.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:36 pmGee,,,,, I wonder if Tony feels bad about the hundreds of thousands of cancer cases caused by depleted uranium for generations to come through his actions as a war enabler.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:38 pmto miss molly...google Clinton list of dead. Start reading.
August 16th, 2007 at 3:39 pmSomething big is coming. Something REALLY big that would cause the ever-smirking Rove quit before the cover is blown. Wonder what it is?
August 16th, 2007 at 3:43 pm"Healthy body, sick mind / it's just a matter of time / Sick body, sick mind"
August 16th, 2007 at 3:46 pm---Operation Ivy
choke on the money, pathetic lying gasbag
August 16th, 2007 at 3:49 pmdear dumplings dont you know when you are being lied to ? must be a troll
August 16th, 2007 at 3:51 pm"... and the Democrats would STILL be afraid of him."
Comment by Grimmlok — August 16, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
Along w/ large parts of the civilized world. Actually, fear is a pretty reasonable response when dealing w/ a delusional dry drunk (God talks to him remember? God TOLD George to smite Saddam...)!!!
August 16th, 2007 at 3:58 pmWho says that also his take home is probably only 100k or less and living in washington thats not a lot of money
Comment by realist — August 16, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
This coming from the crowd that fights every time Dems want to raise the minimum wage above $5.15 per hour (10k)! Unlike 47,000,000 Americans, Snow has health insurance. Doesn't he also have investment income from all those millions he made at Fox?
Reminds me of the 1992 campaign. Clinton proposed raising taxes on individuals with incomes over 200k per year. Demi Moore said "He shouldn't do that. It's pretty hard to live on 200k a year".
Bill O'Reilly likes to tell the story of growing up working class in Levittown. He never lived there and his father's income was in the top 10%. Limbaugh gets $25 million per year from NBC (GE).
August 16th, 2007 at 4:00 pmSpudgeBoy,
I guess you could call Hitler's last days in the bunker "going it alone".
August 16th, 2007 at 4:03 pmHe took a 90% pay cut to take this job. He's lived the American dream, to be in hock up to his eyeballs. His current pay isn't covering the expenses he incurred when he was with Pox.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:04 pmSNOW: No, I’m not going to be…I’ve already made it clear I’m not going to be able to go the distance, but that’s primarily for financial reasons. I’ve told people when my money runs out, then I’ve got to go.
Well, time IS money...
August 16th, 2007 at 4:05 pmWHEN THE MONEY RUNS OUT?
August 16th, 2007 at 4:07 pmThis tells me that Tony Snow is getting paid more than his salary, some bonus probably based on the illegal activites of BushCo that are grinding to a halt because the Congress is paying attention.
WHAT MONEY, TONY? Tell us?
Wait, you'd just lie anyway.
It's a shame Snow is leaving. He was such a great propagandist in the same great vein as Goebbels and the Iraqi Information Minister.
Sigh
August 16th, 2007 at 4:11 pmFinancial reasons? Did I miss something??? Is Snow working for free? Seems unlikely...
August 16th, 2007 at 4:22 pmTen months ago, according to The National Journal, he had between $691,539 and $2.16 million.
If he was living in any other developed country in the world, he would have complete health coverage---no deductible and no co-pay.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:23 pmHe can drink alone.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:23 pmBDS in full effect.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:23 pmRumor is Bush bought a big ranch in Paraguay. Apparently no extradition agreement there.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:24 pmWhy TP needs registration (if this sounds familiar to you, there's a valid reason):
I ran a discussion forum for about 4 years from 2000-2004 called "The Dumbya Chronicles". You can still search on the name on the net and read all the messages. I left it out there so people can see the things we discussed.
I had to censor people. First of all were the Republicans and Freepers who were intent on disrupting the site. Free Republic (Freepers) in particular has groups of people who get together and attempt to overwhelm left wing sites with right wing posts and will do just that if you allow them unfettered access. Imagine if all the right wingers Rob has already kicked out of here were still here doing there thing.
Then came the crazies. People like the person on the web that calls themselves Kathaksung. Kat showed up on my forum one day and started posting some of the wildest and darkest paranoid conspiracy theories you can imagine. You can see some of Kat's stuff here
I wrote Kat a personal email urging he/she to get help and that although I was not a practitioner, I thought I clearly recognized the symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia and that there were drugs that would help him/her and that I cared about him/her and wanted them to get help and be happy. I'm not sure what ever happened.
So, we have censorship of Republicans/Freepers and censorship of those I was reasonably sure were insane.
I then discovered that there were some people who were determined to fight with and insult people. They didnt attack arguments, they attacked people. Membership began to drop as these people were harassing and driving away people who didnt want to have to deal with that. I had to ban those who behaved this way.
That is just the beginning. You can say you should never censor anyone on an internet forum but if you ever try to run one, if you make it your policy not to censor or limit any discussion, you would watch it degenerate into chaos and anarchy very quickly where no sort of rational and decent discussion can occur. That isnt what I wanted for my forum.
by sleser001 (122 articles, 572 comments) on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 at 7:42:48 PM
http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/opedne_kyle_pom_070815_an_open_letter_to_ma.htm
August 16th, 2007 at 4:25 pmgives a whole new meaning to "cut and run"
August 16th, 2007 at 4:38 pmHe's running out of money because of all the cash he laid out for the fine ladies managed by the "DC Madam" and the subsequent hush money he paid the madam to have his number removed from her phone records!
Sorry for all the people who have cancer, but some deserve more sympathy, others don't.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:47 pmHow lame! Running out of money! That's as feeble as Karl Rove "wanting to be with his family"! How do all these liars look at themselves in the mirror? Sorry you've got cancer, Tony, but how 'bout being upfront with people for once in your life? I've heard that some people facing serious illness like to "clean up their house" a bit and come clean. Not you? Well what can you expect from someone who cut their teeth on Fox Noise channel?
August 16th, 2007 at 4:55 pmDoes that rather cryptic quote give anyone else a bad feeling?
Did the edict from White House chief of staff Josh Bolten that anyone still working by Labor Day was expected to stay until the end
Kinda like something is going to happen post Labor Day. And if you want out, get out now before then or you're committed to the end.
August 16th, 2007 at 4:58 pmMoney runs out? What's he talking about? I think he makes $168,000 a year plus benefits and the best healthcare available for the rest of his life. What's he talking about?
August 16th, 2007 at 5:14 pmComment by Thought of the Day — August 16, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
thank you for that... please forward that on to TP...
August 16th, 2007 at 5:18 pmsee contact link above, right (hot tip?)...
very good advice...
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So let me get this straight. When the money runs out and he has high medical bills, the solution is to quit his job? Definitely sounds like a Bush way of handling finances.
August 16th, 2007 at 5:31 pmThe only patients you'd get from Canada that do that is the very wealthy because they know the wealthy can buy better health care than the poor get in the U.S. Wealthy people hate meritocrasies because they can't buy their way in and hate waiting behind the poor or those in greater need. Canada's heath care is not horrible at all. It ranks well above the U.S. We have a life expectancy 3 years longer than you. Only the rich and the least needy (but biggest whiners) complain about waiting lengths which are not really any worse than the U.S. and include those without health insurance, except if you only look at the wealthy.
August 16th, 2007 at 5:40 pmYou know it's bad when you wish for ol Scott Mc to come back.
August 16th, 2007 at 5:40 pmGlad to see an end to the Snow job. What a tool. His propaganda was weak, as is all the rest of what comes out of the WH.
Snow has to get his affairs in order, and prepare for eternity in Hell for selling his soul to Cheney.
August 16th, 2007 at 5:42 pmGeorge W. Bush is . . . living, breathing poison !
Bwaaaahahahah
August 16th, 2007 at 5:46 pm“Did the edict from White House chief of staff Josh Bolten that anyone still working by Labor Day was expected to stay until the end really influence Rove’s decision to leave? That’s an edict I did not and would not issue, because I assumed that the people who gave 110 percent every day wanted to be there to make a difference, not because of obligation.â€
If Bolton actually said those words, then Dubya is treating his staff like he treats the military..... with a stop loss order. How funny is it that he has to use that tactic to keep both his "team" on board as well as a way to have a back door draft becuase he has destroyed the military!
Hope all the Chickenhawk NeoCOns are happy with this.
August 16th, 2007 at 5:56 pmHow silly you people are. The real reason Tony Snow announced this, was so you people could rage on and on about things you know nothing about. I have seen how you think....it ain't much, it ain't much.
What a bunch of losers.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:05 pmcould it be they want out before cheney bombs iran?
August 16th, 2007 at 6:13 pmThe real reason Tony Snow announced this, was so you people could rage on and on about things you know nothing about. I have seen how you think….it ain’t much, it ain’t much.
What a bunch of losers.
Comment by tammy durrin
So you know THE "real" story (kinda like rover's THE math.)?
If so, I would love to have you enlighten us with your inside knowledge.
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August 16th, 2007 at 6:24 pmOkay, look, as much as I bitterly resent Tony Snow and his constant lies for Bush, I have to say that you should include the fact that Tony Snow has terminal cancer. Oh, yes, I know, he's said he'll be around for a long time. But the simple truth is, liver cancer, spread to the nodes, he's a goner. He's retiring because quality of life doesn't include telling lies for Bush anymore.
Basically Tony Snow deserves to quit more than any of them. I'm glad he's going to do so. As far as I'm concerned, politics ends at the diagnosis of terminal cancer. Let's do cut Tony some wee bit of slack on that point, shall we? Whatever he is, or has been in the past, he's dying now. He deserves to quit lying before he goes to meet his maker.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:31 pmIf you were wondering what Karl Rove was planning to do after he resigned, after spending more time with his family, of course, it's to trash Hillary Clinton. More dirty work and dirty tricks for Karl. It's what he does best. I wonder if he's still being paid by the Republican Party? Does anyone know? The MSM should investigate. Rove is out of the WH and should stay out of sight.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:32 pmIf the White House is paying Snow by the lie, then he oughta be the wealthiest guy in the world.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:37 pmHe's probably running out of money because every time he lies he has to put a quarter in the "Liar Jar."
August 16th, 2007 at 6:43 pmThey blew their horns
And the walls came down
They all were warned
Still the walls came down
They just stood there laughing
They're not laughing anymore
Sanctuary fades
The congregation splits
Fights and military raids
The congregation splits
There are no terrorists
And there ain't no Yanks
Just corporate criminals
Playing pranks
The wall may be crumbling, but the handwriting is still legible.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:47 pmProphesied by The Call
The WH Press Corps appear to be morons, and, yet, Tony struggles at each press briefing to keep things moving. He'll probably line up a network and a book deal to make lots of money for his family's sake. I find him likable, and maybe too nice for the job he has.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:48 pmTony Snow is full of crap. I don't believe anything that poor man has to say.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:50 pmBush, in his twilight years, endlessly mowing the grass in Crawford, winding inward in ever tightening circles on the brown and dusty landscape, getting up the next morning and starting all over again.
Comment by Raven
Thank you Raven! I have not had that good a laugh since this criminal administration began. What a visual.
August 16th, 2007 at 6:52 pmOh please. Tony Snowjob? How do we even know he really has cancer. This administration lies about everything!
August 16th, 2007 at 6:52 pm172. Tammy - way over the top, IMHO
August 16th, 2007 at 6:57 pmSnow has medical expenses to pay? Hell, just go to the emergency room.
August 16th, 2007 at 7:15 pmSnowjob commenting about the money running out has some merit. Certainly his salary at the WH is substantially less than he made at Fox. A downward move like that is calculated, because the opportunities post-WH days(lucrative consulting gigs, book deals) can more than make up for it.
The curve ball thrown him was the caner recurrence and as much as I disagree with his toeing the Bush Cabal line, I wouldn't wish that disease on anyone. If you've lived with it or lost a loved one to it, you'd better understand.
August 16th, 2007 at 7:22 pmI'm hoping, wishing on Boosh and Chainey's resignations.
Incompetence, failure, followed by cowardice.
Who said Rove was a political genius again?
Snow's dying you say? Well almost 4000 are dead for a lost cause. I'm sure he has better health care than you or i.
August 16th, 2007 at 7:34 pmI have this image of Bush alone in the White House hanging from the end of a rope with his last few staff members standing around him with their notebooks in hand jotting down notes to fax to Carl Rove asking for the correct words to explain to the press corp just why the president's pants were hanging just below his knees.
August 16th, 2007 at 7:37 pmEverytime someone resigns, Bush and Cheney, slip in another zealot-incompetent so it really doesn't matter who leaves or fills any of these positions. They are all disgusting creatures who have no respect for our government or our country and all lack integrity or they wouldn't join this corrup administration. They belong in prison or a mental health facility where they can begin to learn to accept responsibility for all of their actions and the damage that they have caused us and others throughout the World.
Don't you wonder at times why more of these failed officials won't tell us the truthl--and, nothing but the truth. Some even swore on a Bible that they would defend our Constitution.
August 16th, 2007 at 7:56 pmTP...
...you're showing your true stripes again...
August 16th, 2007 at 8:00 pm"Clinton did it, too! Wahhhhh!!"
These people claimed to be oh so much better than Clinton. But, it has all turned out so much worse! If they were better than Clinton why did they do the same things? They promised better, and we got much worse than anything Clinton ever did.
Yes, Mr. Bush, I too am eagerly awaiting history's verdict. In the meantime you should begin preparing your defense for the final judgment. After all, "I can't Recall", really is not going to fly with the Big Guy.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:12 pmMy favorite memory of Snow: When , after a slurry of Snow-white jibberish , said: "You know, you're not really speaking English"
And my favorite memory of Rove:..........................
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Snow was using a metaphor when he speaks of "when the money runs out". He is known for his folksy, albeit nebulous metaphors. He also has a WH medical plan which includes using a taxpayer funded (you pick the governmental agency) jet to get any form of treatment he wants, anywhere in the world. Keep your eye on the ball folks, otherwise you'll continue to buy into the whole "born again/compassionate conservative/I have no recollection of that" bullshit. No, it's Tony's way of saying he's not going to be the last pair of lying lips standing at the lectern from hell, especially as the GOP continues to crumble like stinky cheese. That too is a metaphor.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:13 pm"If you’ve lived with it or lost a loved one to it, you’d better understand."
Virtually everyone either has had cancer or had a loved one with cancer.
The odds of getting cancer at some point in your lifetime are about 50%, so if you know more than one person during your lifetime, chances are pretty good that you will understand the tragedy of it.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:14 pmThis long list of resignations only indicates that Bush's own staff doesn't think he can accomplish much of anything as he has become a lame duck president. While every president goes through this Bush in particular will accomplish even less as a lame duck than Clinton. The reason for this is his sagging approval rating and the daily American casualties from Iraq from which he will never recover politically.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:15 pmBush and Cheney alone in the White House? God help us! Bush has done enough damage to this country with all his handlers. Now that the rats are leaving the ship, Bush and Cheney can finish off what they almost did--destroy this country.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:15 pmNotice that the ratpack will leave in September just as or after the report from Iraq is due. Does it mean they have a conscience after all?
For Tony Snow to give the excuse that he's leaving because of financial reasons is about as credible as Bush's claim that success is achievable in Iraq. Just how much does this guy need to live on? He makes enough. He can always go back to Fox--where he belongs--along with the rest of the right-wing hacks who have towed Bush's line.
This long list of resignations only shows that Bush's own staff doesn't think he can accomplish much of anything as he has become a lame duck president. While every president goes through this Bush in particular will accomplish even less as a lame duck than Clinton. The reason for this is his sagging approval rating and the daily American casualties from Iraq from which he will never recover politically.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:15 pmWe're reaching flashpoint here folks, soon we will have Star Destroyers , Bush-troopers and a DeathStar orbiting Earth. With the increasing ocean temperature, we will have mutant sharks with frickin laserbeams.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:16 pmToo bad we can't get Cheney to resign...
August 16th, 2007 at 8:20 pmGeorge bush may even lose Barney in the end, but he'll always have Gonzo.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:21 pmWell, didn't boy bush tell us that he could just go to the emergency room?
August 16th, 2007 at 8:24 pmWho says that also his take home is probably only 100k or less and living in washington thats not a lot of money
Comment by realist
Wow, only a right wing zealot would say that. Thank you, good "doctor" (or is it plastic surgeon)?
August 16th, 2007 at 8:42 pm"How silly you people are. The real reason Tony Snow announced this, was so you people could rage on and on about things you know nothing about. I have seen how you think….it ain’t much, it ain’t much."
Do you not see the irony in your statement? You say we know nothing but you have a clear sight into Snow's motives. What you just did? It is called BS.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:44 pmFor God's sake, stop already with the "Clinton did it too!" crap. This country was in nowhere NEAR as bad of shape as it has been under Bush. Hell, the WORLD was in better shape than it has been under Bush. "I'm a uniter, not a divider." Yeah right. How many members of our military died during a war that was trumped up by the executive branch under Clinton? How many miners died under the Clinton administrations? These rats jumping off the sinking Bush and Cheney ship deserve no pity, because they are just as complicit in the lies and deception to the American people as Bush and Cheney themselves. I don't have DAMNED bit of pity for those megalomaniacs. There are families of our soldiers, sailors, Marines, airmen, and guardsmen that are still wondering what in the hell Bush and Cheney really, I mean really, got our troops into in Iraq, and why they have to suffer the loss while others of privilige send them into harm's way without a plan. Don't you DARE tell us to pity Tony Snow or any of those criminals. At most, they deserve to be convicted of treason of their own war and have the strongest sentence of the crime carried out on the White House lawn to bring decency back into the White House. The LEAST they can do is resign and stop America's bleeding on the homefront and abroad. It's time to get back to reality and the hell out of Bushworld.
This administration is a failure. They just haven't finished failing America yet. Give 'em time. They haven't proven me wrong yet. In the meantime, let 'em jump ship. It's the most relief we've had in a long time.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:47 pmFWIW, as of 2004, the press secretary's salary was $157,000, as per the Washington Post. Many highly paid people who enter government service have severe financial hardships. I wish him the best in his fight with the Big C. But this administration is the worst in my lifetime, and surely one of the worst in American history.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:51 pmBagdad Bob, now there was a press secretary with class. Lied almost as good as Snow. What happened to him? Anyone know?
August 16th, 2007 at 9:00 pm#172, Tammy--"How do we even know he has cancer? This administration lies about everything."
While I agree that virtually word spoken by the Bushies is a lie, I have to take exception to your question, "How do we even know he has cancer?" Have you LOOKED at him recently? He is a dying man. What he is running out of is not money, but time. And if a dying man prefers not to tell the world that, it's OK with me. Probably the least offensive lie ever to come out of the Bush administration.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:12 pmWho cares if Tony Snow has cancer? He's the getaway driver for this gang, and now that his time is running out both on this planet and in this admin we're supposed to care? Yes he has cancer. He's also a sanctimonious prick, a liar, and an unindicted co-conspirator.
Sounds to me like Snow is cutting and running.
And anyone who thinks Snow is short of cash or that he can't suddenly get millions for "speaking engagements" has a head full of DUMPLINGS.
August 16th, 2007 at 9:20 pmOh, Goodie! Now we get stuck with Dana Perino and that Fratto character.
Those two make Snowjob look like the reincarnation of Pope John Paul II
August 16th, 2007 at 9:33 pmTony Snow is a piece of trash. No doubt. But he's a piece of trash who just had cancer, so the financial reason may actually be legit.
Of course, the instant and obvious distrust directed towards him and the Bush/neocon admin shows how much damage they've done. They've lied so much about so many different things that they are suspect about even the most simple of subjects.
Bush and the neocons have done great damage to the relationship between the Presidency and U.S. citizens. We can only hope that the next President is wise enough to see this and visionary enough to see how to fix it.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:08 pmI'm sure King George will find a new lier!
August 16th, 2007 at 10:18 pmIn my opinion the Bush Crime Family combined with the Clinton Crime Family has destroyed our country. The looting of a country is the last act of scondrels, and the neoCONs that ride the backs of both the Dems and Reps like a circus performer have destroyed the USA. Why? For Israel our friend and worst enemy!
August 16th, 2007 at 10:20 pmPerhaps there are some things coming down the (Albert) pike that not even these guys can stomach to be connected to publically. You know, the stuff that's gonna male curious king George look in the history books of the future as good as say, ol' Julius C.
Maybe Snow's leaving because his predicament has changed some of his philosophy and he knows there's no way he's gonna be standing up and spinning it. Looking objectively at the relative speed with which the constitutional rights of U.S. citizens have been eroded, the highest level of overt entanglement in armed conflict and declared wars by a U.S. administration and running up a bigger debt in 2 terms than all previous U.S. gov'ts combined, one wonders what's left to do, why it has to be accelerated and what will be entailed in this "sprint to the tape."
August 16th, 2007 at 10:28 pmAs an employee of the government at such a high level as Mr. Snow, I cannot imagine his claim he is considering resignation because of the money. I retired from a state job because I could make more and still get insurance and not deal with all the crap that going to work was causing me. Of course, I only worked as a Child Protective Services intake and investigating worker closer to the mininum wage than I can only expect Tony did not have. I went to bed at night worrying if my decisions were right... Tony only wondered if he was stating a losing position "right." A few years ago, I experienced the death of a child on my caseload. Tony has felt it was his role to protect his employer Bush when all we have to show for our loss of American lives in Iraq are Tony's saying it is all right. You, Tony, have a lot more grief to digest than I could ever expect. I feel for you, but you (like I) asked for it... mine for a better purpose than you, however. I will sleep better than you given the above... and I have problems.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:35 pmi live in bush country (texas). i use to work at bush airport. subjected to management sponsored harassment which lead to severe depression and heavy drinking...
four years of tsa and the only 'terrorism' i saw came from management and some kind of Texas surveillance gestapo; who track your life and intimidate people you associate with.
pure fascism.
-quiz-
Germany was to europe
what Texas is to ______?
PS please help
August 16th, 2007 at 10:43 pm204. so Bush was also responsible for your drinking problem...? I see...
August 16th, 2007 at 10:47 pmpolitical capitol. Bush is broke. Tony should of left a long time ago.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:48 pmWith all this talk of W being gone one way or the other I have visions of larry king doing a "Statesman" interview with him. the year should be no sooner than 2067.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:48 pmThe money is political capital. Bush is broke. Bye-Bye Tony.
August 16th, 2007 at 10:54 pmYou think tony snow would give micheal moore permission to film his, (atwater style), deathbed confession?
August 16th, 2007 at 10:58 pmsnow will get a TEMPORARY job, then die..then become " just another number"... thats how it works
August 16th, 2007 at 11:00 pmThey Are Simply Playing It Smart, Once They Have Resigned Congress Can not Block Their Use Of The 5th Amendment Right. President Bush, Dick Chenny, Even Gonzales and Rove Come Out Clean.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:14 pm"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, THE TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE." -- Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945
August 16th, 2007 at 11:15 pm"The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of an eye: the more light you pour on it, the more it contracts."
Chief Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, U.S. Supreme Court
"When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.†-Sinclair Lewis
I DIDN"T READ THE REST OF THE COMMENTS BUT TO #7.... HE DOESN'T HAVE MEDICAL BILLS TO PAY... GOVERNMENT WORKERS GET FREE HEALTH CARE.. AND WHEN YOUR CLOSE TO W, THEN IT'S THE BEST HEALTHCARE
August 16th, 2007 at 11:16 pmIsn't anyone else worried that people are leaving because they don't want to be part of the expansion of the war into Iran? Or if they don't know it's coming that it will leave Cheney even more unfettered from talking Bush into it?
August 16th, 2007 at 11:18 pmIf Everyone Can Recall Monica Goodling Used The Same Tactic. She Resigned Then Used Her 5th Amendment Right To Further Elude Harsh And Vital Question During Her Testimony. This Will Same Tactic Will Be Use By All The High Level Bush Bangers.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:19 pmListen guys, Tony Snow it dying. That's why he's quiting.
It has nothing to do with money and nothing to do with healthcare.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:33 pmRather than belabor a sorry point, or berate the masses...I'll simply say this: The President is not going short of staff, period, President Cheney remains, with the exception of Libby, quite ably served.
The Chimp has Gonzo the Toad, and is apparently quite content, primate puppets are like that.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:38 pm#213--"GOVERNMENT WORKERS GET FREE HEALTH CARE." That is completely untrue. Rank and file Federal employees pay big bucks for health insurance. I know, because both my husband and I are part of that large group, far beyond the beltway. Perhaps employees of the Executive Branch who are at the White House receive free health care, but that is absolutely not the case for the rest of us.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:47 pmDon't forget Wolfie's resignation from the WB for that list... great list, thanks TP.
(Is the gf, Ali Riza, Still at state?)
August 16th, 2007 at 11:48 pmPUSSY LOSERS CUTTING & RUNNING !!!
JUSTICE IS GONNA CATCH UP WITH ALL OF YOU WAR CRIMINALS AND TREASONOUS BASTARDS NO MATTER HOW FAST NOR HOW FAR YOU CRAVEN COWARDS RUN !!!
BAWAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
August 16th, 2007 at 11:48 pmDont Think his comment was ment for the lower to middle class government workers patricia.
August 16th, 2007 at 11:51 pmI feel sorry for Tony Snowjob. He's going to have a tough time explaining all the lies.
August 17th, 2007 at 12:10 amthey're not the RIGHT ones...
August 17th, 2007 at 12:12 amDumplings...what planet are you living on? Tony Snow took the job as chief liar for Bush and that is an honor? Are you serious? What are you smoking?
August 17th, 2007 at 12:20 amDumpling: Have you ever watched Faux News???? Pray for Tony's "soul", if he has one. His is going to be a "bumpy ride".
August 17th, 2007 at 12:23 amKarma Gets Snow Job through CANCER!
Ol' Johnny Cash said "Gods' gonna cut you down..."
August 17th, 2007 at 12:24 amFor someone facing a life-threatening illness, Snow has hastened his demise by working in that viper's nest. Most people facing the end of their life usually have some sort of spiritual experience, which allows them to have compassion for their fellow man. Snow is still a lying piece of complicit scum, cancer or no cancer. His lies have killed more people than his cancer will.
August 17th, 2007 at 1:07 amI worry more about the average, hard working American than Tony Snow. We all know he has complete health care and a salary and pension that will keep him in millionaire status regardless of medical crises.
It is disingenious of him to use this as an excuse. He works for an administration that doesn't give a shit about healthcare for people with less than a 6 figure salary.
August 17th, 2007 at 1:41 amYou idiots are so lame.
The real reason I am quitting is to move to Canada so I can get some decent health care.
And they don't hate me as much up there.
And when I die (the doctors have given me a date, it is 23 October, 2007), I do plan to go to hell, since I have caused so much suffering and death with my lies. But that's OK, I have it on good authority that I will have a great position down there, as Satan's press spokesman, the only problem will be that I won't have a tongue. Go figure.
August 17th, 2007 at 1:41 amTony was responsible for the Clinton "Ripping everything out of the White House as they left" lie.
Then he made some lame ass-non apology.
Tony, you have a Reckoning ahead of you. A full life's Accounting.
You've made your bed of lies. Sleep tight.
August 17th, 2007 at 2:28 amTony Snow is running out of money. Too bad! Can we all get together and give him a loan? There's nothing worse than a broke fat cat-in this case, one who lies for one of the most dishonest administrations in history.
August 17th, 2007 at 4:19 amWell, at least he's not saying that he wants to spend more time with his family.
August 17th, 2007 at 4:29 amsnow lives in a high security flat not far from the WH at over 6k a month...chrome bottom pool, driving range, etc. I'm not falling for it.
August 17th, 2007 at 4:41 amWhat hope do you have against people fighting to protect their homeland? On their side: strength, persistence, dignity, anger, nothing-to-loseness; on your side, greed, selfishness,incompetence, George Bush
Yankee go home! Enuf said!
August 17th, 2007 at 5:46 amWho knew that Snow was an unpaid volunteer??
August 17th, 2007 at 6:59 amTime for them all to go.
August 17th, 2007 at 7:04 amSnow looks to me to be showing the effects of chemo. Probably he cannot physically carry on much longer. God bless him.
August 17th, 2007 at 7:06 amMost people with cancer do not quit their jobs no matter how much they would like to because of the little matter of pre-existing conditions make it impossible to get coverage for their cancer with a new insurance. Another reason why single payer national health insurance is the way to go.
August 17th, 2007 at 7:12 amI can't wait till Larura quits...then Jenna, Barbara...Barney has left the building!
August 17th, 2007 at 9:43 amOh gosh, Don't I feel silly! I thought being a public servant wasn't about money, I thought it was about serving the interest of the people.
There I go...back to square one!
August 17th, 2007 at 10:14 amDoes anyone really think Snow is running out of money? Sheesh, that's worse than "spending more time with my family!"
August 17th, 2007 at 10:27 amDid anyone stop and think that maybe these retirees did not want to be around when Bush declares that the country is under military law. That they wanted no part of his plans to destro our Constitution. Just a thought.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:38 amExcuse me. Tony works for the president's office, and he DOESN'T GET ALL HIS HEALTH CARE PAID FOR? He has to pay, out of pocket for his cancer treatment?
Wow, Does Michael Moore know this? This would make an awesome addendum to Sicko.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:43 am"Looks like it's just you and me now, Jeff Gannon...Jeff?...Jeff?"
(as Jeff wrests his hand free and Dumbya begins to sob quietly)
August 17th, 2007 at 10:51 amThe man has cancer, for Christ’s sake. He has medical bills to pay. Don’t use that as a reason to bash him or Bush, hell, it could happen to anyone.
Comment by dumplings — August 16, 2007 @ 1:19 pm
Snow is not a working class middle american.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:53 amhe has the best insurance in the world, provided by tax payers, he does not spend one dime.
Snow is likely carrying fixed periodic expenses that he initially incurred while he worked for Fox with a much larger salary, like very large monthly mortgage payments. He probably did accept the White House job with the knowledge that he would not be able to cover his ongoing expenses out of his government pay but figuring he had a certain amount of money with which he could cover the excess expenses for some period of time. Now that money is gone, so he's going back to Fox or its ilk.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:55 amYou forgot Jenna. She's decided to move on too.
August 17th, 2007 at 11:16 amThis thread makes me embarrassed to be a progressive.
Wake up, people.
One look at him tells you he is leaving because he's becoming too frail to work.
It must be a very difficult thing to hear oneself say, so he made a "stiff upper lip" comment about needing money, probably without thinking it through. Whether or not he has good health insurance, who he has to thank for it, how high his salary is or was, etc. are all beside the point with regard to his explanation of why he is leaving. He is leaving because he can't do the job.
True, an illness does not exculpate a person, and an illness should not make someone immune from criticism.
But the gloating tone of some comments with regard to his finances/ health is very bad form.
August 17th, 2007 at 12:53 pmTony,
Just hurry up and die.
Sincerely
August 17th, 2007 at 1:02 pmSnow is talking about the parking meter where he has parked his car!
August 17th, 2007 at 1:06 pmI sent Bushie a bag of Pretzels which he can eat all alone so he doesn't have to share :-)
August 17th, 2007 at 1:19 pmSnow's battling cancer - that's as good a reason to leave as any. Maybe that's the real reason - in any case, so what? Bush can get prettry much anyone to stand up there and lie - Snow should take care of himself instead.
August 17th, 2007 at 1:38 pmMaybe Snow took some bad real estate advice. Bought the most expensive house he could get a mortgage on with a jumbo no interest loan. Now he's got his insurance co. dicking him around on his cancer treatment payments, messing with his credit. Stuck in a white elephant that's lost a third of it's value since he moved in that he can't refinance. Welcome to George Bush's Your On Your Own Society Tony.
Once everybody else bails out of the WH maybe Bush can get Henry Kissinger to come over and pray with him.
August 17th, 2007 at 2:45 pmSnow's money comment is an insult to all middle Americans including those in the Bush base. The idea is that he could have been making a lot more money in the private sector, but made a huge financial sacrifice to serve the country by aiding the conservative cause. But surely Snow expected that his time as presidental press secretary would qualify him for a financially rewarding position in the conservative establishment, but his unexpected cancer will probably remove that possibility.
August 17th, 2007 at 4:32 pmSnow claims to be running out of money and that's his reason for leaving. I'd treat this the same as everything else that's come out of his mouth over the span of his WH spokesman career. But honestly, why does anyone care? The only part that matters is that he's leaving...good riddance Mr. Snow, you big lying pile of sh!t.
August 17th, 2007 at 4:58 pmHow the heck is Tony Snow's money running out? I know the dear man is ill, but he has government coverage, doesn't he? So does he really mean his ability due to his illness is causing him to pack up and take off.
August 17th, 2007 at 5:10 pmTo Elsie -- then go to Snopes.com and search for the same thing. The whole thing is debunked!
August 17th, 2007 at 5:24 pmYea - Snow has cancer and claims to be running out of money! This, if nothing else, goes to show the state of this country's healthcare system. After all, he earns a nice piece of change, doesn't he?
August 17th, 2007 at 5:37 pmWaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Tony has ass-cancer. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, he's goinbg broke from the insurance. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, now he has to retire. That's what Tony gets for supporting and lying for the Bush Crime Family. Hey Snowjob, NOW DO YOU SUPPORT A SINGLE PAYER HEALTH PLAN? Ya big dork! This is God's way of punishing you for f-ing up America!!!!!!!!
August 17th, 2007 at 8:30 pmI would be happy with a Hilly-Condi election.
Obviously Hillary would be the better President, but Ms Rice would be a nine-story-upwards improvement on what we have now.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:52 pmTime is money. Tony's money has run out.
August 17th, 2007 at 11:16 pmMy sympathy to Mr. Snow for his health problems. The rest of the liars of this administration should have a wake up call...we're all going to die. They will have a lot to answer for to the Man upstairs. Too much to list here...1million dead Iraq. 911 coverup...............on and on
August 17th, 2007 at 11:20 pmwhy is it that when conservatives post, it is usually utter propaganda or misinformed ignorance? maybe it is because if they knew what they were talking about.... they would not be conservatives. as for MR SNOW , he has been one of the most effective spokesman in recent years but at what cost? he is basically a hotshot hired gun professional liar taking the position to new lows much the same as all the others in this administration (containing nearly 150 graduates of PAT ROBERTSON UNIVERSITY). i thought religous people were supposed to be honest and trustworthy? good riddance to them all.
August 18th, 2007 at 1:07 amSnow running out of money? Humm, wonder if his healthcare insurance has something to do with? He should have gone over the border to Canada.
August 18th, 2007 at 11:09 pmTony knew the pay cut he was taking when he took the job as press secretary. I think the reason he is quitting is because he can't take the heat from the media.
HEY TONY, IF YOU CAN'T TAKE THE HEAT GET THE HELL OUT OF THE KITCHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 21st, 2007 at 7:48 pmTony Snow is not quitting because of the money - he can't take the heat from the media. Hey Tony, if you can't take the heat get the hell out of the kitchen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You knew in the beginning when you took this job the pay cut you were going to take - you're not that stupid that you could not figure it out! DUH! I honestly think the reason you are leaving is because you are a WHIMP! Get you butt out ASAP.
August 21st, 2007 at 7:52 pmI have a list complied of approx. 50 casulties/resgiantions of the Bush Adminsitration since 2001. I'm certain it's only a partial list. It should be posted every where for all to ponder...
August 28th, 2007 at 2:20 pmPeace.