Hanson on the ‘real problem’ with Abu Ghraib.
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Hanson on the ‘real problem’ with Abu Ghraib.
“Abu Ghraib was reprehensible for its sexual roguery and gratuitous humiliation, but the real military problem of that prison has been the serial release, not American mistreatment, of Islamic murderers,” writes neoconservative Victor Davis Hanson in the National Review today.
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Sometimes the things these people say really make one ashamed to be a fellow American.
Rest of the world:
Please forgive us. Not all of us are that stupid.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:05 pmWhat a horrendous lie.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:10 pmThe firing of General Toguba after he charged the enlisted men, but before his announced intention to investigate who gave the order to torture and murder show the depth of evil.
Most of these prisoners were picked up in sweeps. Most were innocent of everything except violating curfew to get food for their starving families.
But I must admit that the people who humiliated tortured and murdered inmates at Abu Gahreib had the curtesy not to discriminate: the tortured the innocent with as much enthusiasm as they tortured the guilty.
And I am ashamed.
Oh MY GOD!! I can’t believe he wrote that. Thats about as dumb as any thing I’ve from National Repuke in a long time.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:11 pmthis guy really gives a whole new meaning to the phrase “useless jackass”.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:13 pmHere’s a good example of how honest VD Hanson is:
“But now an errant bomb or single rogue jailer in Abu Ghraib will be blared live — in raw and unedited fashion without much of a context — to a housewife in Frankfurt or a farmer in Anatolia. Any single untoward incident can splash across the computer screens of billions, and serve as an instant referendum on the service of tens of thousands of American soldiers. ”
Oh, right, a “single rogue jailer in Abu Ghraib”. Is even the readership at the National Review this delusional? “Any single untoward incident”? Isn’t this Laura Bush’s line about a car bomb now and then?
The context, meathead, is the occupation of Iraq. How much fkn context do you need?
Oh, right, I forget. He’s a genius.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:14 pmHere’s something else he wrote.
“In Iraq, then, the question arises — can a liberal Western government defeat a barbarous Islamist terrorist insurgency while under constant audit — and remaining true to its own democratic principles?”
The thing that struck me about this was the “remain true to it’s own democratic principles”. Please tell me where in our democratic principles it says that we should invade and occupy a country that was no threat to us. Please tell me where in our democratic principles it says that we should torture people?
This guy is batshit insane and should be put away somewhere so that he can’t hurt anyone.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:15 pm“Please forgive us. Not all of us are that stupid.
Comment by trueblue — August 17, 2007″
Did you even read the article?
August 17th, 2007 at 8:17 pm“Most of these prisoners were picked up in sweeps. Most were innocent of everything
Comment by Brian Keith O’Hara — August 17, 2007″
And you know this how?
August 17th, 2007 at 8:19 pmbiblobaggins
that sounds like something a muslim extremist would say when someone speaks something the culture deems unsatisfactory…no?
August 17th, 2007 at 8:19 pm“Thats about as dumb as any thing I’ve from National Repuke in a long time.
Comment by Jim Wolf359 — August 17, 2007″
You want to explain that?
August 17th, 2007 at 8:19 pm“this guy really gives a whole new meaning to the phrase “useless jackassâ€.
Comment by english teacher — August 17, 2007″
Did you read the entire article?
August 17th, 2007 at 8:20 pmi read the article and i agree that it is incredibly stupid. i would even argue that it is deceptive and dishonest, as are most of the crappy articles this worthless jackass gets published through his right wing media sponsor outlets.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:20 pmi read the entire article jackass. do you have a specific point?
August 17th, 2007 at 8:21 pmso there are no valid points in the article?
August 17th, 2007 at 8:26 pm“biblobaggins
that sounds like something a muslim extremist would say when someone speaks something the culture deems unsatisfactory…no?
Comment by mizuno”
And what does this have to do with what I posted? Sheesh…you guys are making less and less sense. It appears you all have a fragile hold on reality.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:28 pmSaddam Hussein was a threat. That’s why he’s dead now.
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
So if some other country decided George W Bush is a threat, you’re ok with them taking him out, right?
August 17th, 2007 at 8:29 pmVictor Davis Hanson.
This is one of the Hansons right? You know, the guys that recorded “Hum Bop?’
August 17th, 2007 at 8:29 pm“Comment by bilbobaggins — August 17, 2007 @ 8:15 pm
Saddam Hussein was a threat. That’s why he’s dead now.
Comment by Liberator “
A threat to who? He certainly was not a threat to us.
Where do you get your talking points, because they make absolutely no sense. Perhaps you should find a new talking point site to visit for your poop.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:30 pm“The article is 100% valid! Read it for yourself, if you are a True American you will agree!
Comment by Liberator”
You will only agree if you are a bat shit insane lemming marching off the cliff behind Chaney & Bush.
I am a true American. I believe in our constitution and the rule of law. I believe that is what made this country great. But, unfortunately, our once great country is slipping into a fascist state more and more every day. Hopefully we will be able to recover when the Democrats control the government.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:32 pmYou believe in the constitution then why are for the Dems
August 17th, 2007 at 8:34 pmBoth sides are opposers of the constitution.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:34 pmSo if some other country decided George W Bush is a threat, you’re ok with them taking him out, right?
Comment by Zooey — August 17, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
Zooey,
Many in THIS country have already decided he’s “a threat” to our own government. We don’t need a second opinion from Liberator. 8-))
August 17th, 2007 at 8:34 pmhe sent them to Syria. The other payer of suicide bombers’ families.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:36 pmAnd you know this how?
Comment by michael — August 17, 2007 @ 8:19 pm
Because everything about this GWOT has been a failure, or a fraud.
Gitmo, Abu, The surge is a failure, OBL is still on the loose, ports are still wide open, borders allowing millions to come here still wide open.Iraqi deaths on the rise, American deaths on the rise, Iraqi’s are starving, fleeing by the millions, no electricity, no jobs, no food, no clean running water. Our troops are tired, worn out, low morale.
By chance have you been licking your made in China lead painted Action Dubya doll?
August 17th, 2007 at 8:36 pmMany in THIS country have already decided he’s “a threat†to our own government. We don’t need a second opinion from Liberator. 8-))
Comment by dixie blood — August 17, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
GWB is definitely a threat to this country, but I don’t plan on taking him out. I guess Liberator would be fine with it, if someone did.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:37 pmZooey,
Saddam tried to have Bush Sr. taken out and apparently had a mark out on Clinton, too. Also, al Qaeda did, also, hit Washington, D.C. Home the President and many of our “leaders”
August 17th, 2007 at 8:37 pmSaddam tried to have Bush Sr. taken out and apparently had a mark out on Clinton, too. Also, al Qaeda did, also, hit Washington, D.C. Home the President and many of our “leadersâ€
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
I’m sure you can provide a link to show that Saddam wanted to kill bush 41 and Clinton.
You’re right, al qaeda hit Washington DC. IRAQ & SADDAM DID NOT.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:40 pmBoth sides are opposers of the constitution.
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
Bullshit! Only one party, the Repugniscums, hate the working class, suck up to the super rich and sell out our country to Arabs (GW Botch’s BFFs) and the Chinese (GOP’s BFFs) and cut deals to move jobs overseas and screw the average guy into the infertile ground that is a dying Democracy in this country!!!!
August 17th, 2007 at 8:40 pmThat’s why he’s dead now.
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
Actually, he’s probably dead to keep him from talking about the US’s prior involvement w/ his government – ya know, Rummy, Big Dick, etc…
August 17th, 2007 at 8:43 pmThe Constitution is not a suicide pact.
I believe that is what made this country great.
Well, the Patriotism of TRUE AMERICANS is what REALLY makes THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA the GREATEST NATION EVER!!!
You’re high right now. It shows.
Recover from what? We are whooping some Muslim ass right now and you want to reverse that?!?!?!
Liberal.
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
No a suicide pact is occupying a country and trying to steal the oil from them, pissing a crap load of Islamic people off all over the world.
Possibly one of them an extremist who in the future decides to bring a nuke across our wide open borders into your home city.
False patriotism doesn’t make you a good American sorry.
The Constitution like it or not is the law of the land, if you prefer a country that owns you, might I suggest China, or N. Korea.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:43 pmI feel comfortable saying that Victor Davis Hansen would have been a good German in the 1930’s.
-GSD
August 17th, 2007 at 8:44 pmdixie blood
read more before you make such foolish statements. The last administration used monies from the chinese to win re election and gave them technologies to send a nuclear guided missle that could hit you as you sit on the toilet.
They only had to pay a fine.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:45 pmSaddam Hussein was a threat. That’s why he’s dead now.
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
So if some other country decided George W Bush is a threat, you’re ok with them taking him out, right?
Comment by Zooey —
Actually, since he has had dealings with known terrorists – the bin Laden’s – GWB should be labeled an enemy combatant.
(you’ll hear nothing but crickets from the trolls on that one.)
August 17th, 2007 at 8:47 pmSeveral governments have defeated Islamic insurgencies, but usually only after about ten years, and adopting policies of summary executions and carpet bombing or shelling.
The article begins.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:48 pmThat’s a great premise.
What we SHOULD have done, is execute every prisoner immediately.
That way there wouldn’t have been any temptation to abuse them by our poor reservists.
And if their families protest, carpet bomb their entire neighborhoods.
And if they still protest again, kill them all. That’s the NeoColon way.
Actually, since he has had dealings with known terrorists – the bin Laden’s – GWB should be labeled an enemy combatant.
(you’ll hear nothing but crickets from the trolls on that one.)
Comment by trueblue — August 17, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
So the trolls really wouldn’t mind then.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:50 pmAnd if their families protest, carpet bomb their entire neighborhoods.
And if they still protest again, kill them all. That’s the NeoColon way.
Comment by RUCerious — August 17, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
I’m feeling sick now….
August 17th, 2007 at 8:52 pmNoticed in post #24 the black hearted little troll say’s in his last line.”We all know he wanted them”..Sad indeed bull shit bush and company have killed 3,700 of our troop’s along with over 650,000 Iraq men, women and children because their dictator (wanted) WMD and many year’s before our own gov. supplied him with them…..I want this madness to end, bush and all put in jail for war crime’s sand crime’s against our own, what will I and all my neighbors get for our wanting….More of the same madness….Be gone troll’s…
August 17th, 2007 at 8:52 pmMore of the same madness….Be gone troll’s…
Comment by Sharon — August 17, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
Wasn’t that something? They think it’s ok to snuff out the leader of another country — because they say he wanted WMD. Wow.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:54 pmZooey,
If they stick to their morals
(which they say we all lack)
then they’d have no problem with Dubya getting an extended vacation at Gitmo.
Somehow, I think they’ll find a way around it. Sad.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:54 pmZooey
had to find it: here you go…http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3827/is_200209/ai_n9094479
August 17th, 2007 at 8:55 pmSharon,
Hi! Nice to see you again.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:55 pmBlessings.
Ha! Nice try, liberal.
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
You use the word “liberal” as if it’s a dirty word.
Believe me, no one here is offended by being called a liberal.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:56 pmNeocon…that word is so weak now….RUCerious…the dems did the same thing in Vietnam and Korea and WWII….get over it.
Try something fresh like some ideas that might work. Some rationale thought. I know it is tough when you dont like the way things are but throwing around neocon gets nothing done.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:58 pmBelieve me, no one here is offended by being called a liberal.
Comment by Zooey —
Oh!
I almost fainted away – beind called such a horrid name.
Smelling salts!
I need my smelling salts!
:}
August 17th, 2007 at 8:59 pmBack at ya trueblue,…..Blessings
August 17th, 2007 at 9:00 pmWasn’t that something? They think it’s ok to snuff out the leader of another country — because they say he wanted WMD. Wow.
Comment by Zooey — August 17, 2007 @ 8:54 pm
What’s sadder is these idiots wanting war with Iran, after the billions of tax dollars we’ve spent on nukes to keep USSR etc from nuking us, they’re dumb enough to think that Iran, in maybe 5 or more years will have their first nuke, and they think any country would be stupid enough to nuke the USA, knowing that ONE of our subs could turn any country into pretty much a wasteland. I don’t know about them, but I want my nuke tax dollars back since they’re not protecting us any way.
Sadly if we’re ever nuked, it will be a few lone extremists that managed to build, or buy one. Not backed by any country, and America will have to invade/nuke another nation that had nothing do with it. Much like Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:01 pmThe Constitution is not a suicide pact.
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
Does this statement mean anything at all?
August 17th, 2007 at 9:01 pmI dont want to be owned by gov’t that is why I vote against the gov’t every time.
If you really want to raise revenue try the FairTax. That is a revolutionary idea.
Fair to everyone…even gives prebates to the poor children.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:02 pmComment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
Uh huh. Human Events, right?
Ok, I read it. Maybe he tried, maybe he didn’t. If Saddam did try, then maybe there should have been some sort of investigation and maybe a trial. But I know y’all aren’t too hot on actually finishing trials before letting the defendant swing.
Now, you may address the FACT that al qaeda attacked Washington DC — not Saddam or Iraq.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:03 pmmizuno,
I’m sorry, but I disagree.
Republicans were never as volatile as they are these days.
I like to use Barry Goldwater as an example.
Look at his views, and you’ll see that he would not even recognize the Republicans of this age.
He also came to accept gays as he aged.
We should be widening our views, not narrowing.
Even Barry Golwater would agree with that.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:03 pmSmelling salts!
I need my smelling salts!
:}
Comment by trueblue — August 17, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
My my, Mizz true, you do have delicate sensibilities!
August 17th, 2007 at 9:04 pmI beg your pardon, I surely do!
You couldn’t resist throwing in that last strawman, could you, liberal?
Comment by Liberator
You would know all about strawmen, because thats all I have seen you post
Strawmen and pure ignorance.
Keep showing everyone the idiocy of the 28%er mouthbreathers such as yourself.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:04 pmIt will only lower the Republicans in the polls
That’s because you are mentally libtarded. Stewart claimed that GW Bush called him a pussy!!!
NOT TRUE!!! = STRAW-MAN!!! = Jon Stewart got his ass handed to him by The HONORABLE WILLIAM KRISTOL!!!
Comment by Liberator
Is that the BEST you can do????
I believe Stewart was JOKING with Kristol.
Just as Kristol then claimed that Petraeus called Stewart a “pussyâ€.
Kristol is a PNAC WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR to the USA,
just like GW Bush the AWOL coward PNAC WAR CRIMINAL.
NOTHING “honorable†about EITHER Bush nor Kriston, who LIED on the show about Rummy resigning AFTER the election. BEFORE!!
Just LIARS and MURDERERS and TRAITORS to the USA…
August 17th, 2007 at 9:05 pmComment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR
“Abu Ghraib was reprehensible for its sexual roguery and gratuitous humiliation, but the real military problem of that prison has been the serial release, not American mistreatment, of Islamic murderers,â€
Yea, especially after beating them and putting womens underwear on their heads.
:|
Bet they’re pissed.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:05 pmComment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
Your shit is all last century!! Get on board boy! It’s a new millineum you moron!! Stop with all the 1990’s shit!
It’s
phucking
2007 moron!
That’s 70% of a decade past your hatred of Clinton!! How long will you continue to ignore the criminal activity around you just because a guy a got a touchy-feely in the Oval Office 7 PHUCKING YEARS AGO!!!
IS THAT MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PEOPLE DYING EVERYDAY IN IRAQ DUE TO THE REPEATED LIES TOLD BY BOTCH AND CHAINSAW AND RUMSFELT??
YOU HATE THIS GREAT COUNTRY!!!!
YOU LOVE REPUGNISCUMS ONLY!!!
You are shallow and boring!
August 17th, 2007 at 9:05 pmLast I witnessed Saddam was killed by his own people for atrocites more horrible than the libs claim our own military soldiers have commited in Iraq.
Lets not forget to support the troops but kill their morale by saying we cannot win. Instead of giving alternative plans of engagement to help them secure the occupation.
By the way…the already won the war…it is the occupation that is the problem.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:06 pm*Yawn* The old “oil†strawman is getting tiresome. You libs need new talking points.
You don’t take anything seriously, do you? You seem like you’re all for the moral and cultural relativism that could destroy our TRUE AMERICAN VALUES!!!
Oh, I believe you. You certainly know a lot about not being a good American!
LIKE IT OR NOT, THE CONSTITUTION DOESN’T OWN ME, NOR DOES THE GOVERNMENT!!!
You couldn’t resist throwing in that last strawman, could you, liberal?
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
There was no strawmen to my argument, the oil laws America wants imposed there are not of the best interest for a truly free Iraq nation.
As a matter of fact, I take very seriously another “Rogue group” of terrorists very serious, as you should know none of the 9-11 bombers were from Iraq. They we’re a rogue group with backing of OBLs money.
Wow you are really stupid not to think of the Constitution as the ultimate laws of the land. Where did you grow up?
You can claim strawman all you want. But the facts have a liberal bias.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:07 pmSadly if we’re ever nuked, it will be a few lone extremists that managed to build, or buy one. Not backed by any country, and America will have to invade/nuke another nation that had nothing do with it. Much like Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11.
Comment by Capt Morgan — August 17, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
Absolutely.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:07 pmThe Constitution is not a suicide pact.
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
Does this statement mean anything at all?
Comment by Egreggious — August 17, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
Um, no.
I think this guy is some sort of kook. What do you think, Egg?
August 17th, 2007 at 9:09 pmdixie blood
I never said about clinton stepping out on clinton…so stop talking about it…I am talking about the missiles he traded for cash to help his re election bid. Risking our national security. And if 7 years is a long time ago…wait till China decided to aim those missles at your ass.
Follow blindly sheep…follow blindly…
August 17th, 2007 at 9:09 pmYou use the word “liberal†as if it’s a dirty word.
Believe me, no one here is offended by being called a liberal.
Comment by Zooey — August 17, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
Just don’t call me a Democrat, OK?
August 17th, 2007 at 9:10 pmComment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR
Comment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR — August 17, 2007 @ 9:05 pm
—————————————————————-
WILLIAM KRISTOL is a REAL AMERICAN and a TRUE PATRIOT!!!
Comment by Liberator
YOU are about the ONLY one who thinks so.
REAL Americans know he is another Chickenhawk (TM) liar and PNAC TRAITOR to the USA. Like Bush, Cheney, Libby, etc.
ALL TREASONOUS punks and WAR CRIMINALS.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:10 pmSo I guess you have come to terms and accepted the fact that, like a true liberal, you will spend the rest of your life hating yourself and your countrymen!!!
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
Please provide a link proving my self-hatred, and my hatred of my fellow Americans — and my acceptance thereof.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:11 pmIf I may interject – - -
“Liberator” is doing a fine job of hijacking the thread.
Hell, he’s already gotten my Irish up a few times already. But I haven’t answered him.
It’s Friday night. Let’s try to ignore the anger and venom.
:)
August 17th, 2007 at 9:12 pmJust don’t call me a Democrat, OK?
Comment by Egreggious — August 17, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
I’d never do that to you, Egg. :D
August 17th, 2007 at 9:12 pmSo I guess you have come to terms and accepted the fact that, like a true liberal, you will spend the rest of your life hating yourself and your countrymen!!!
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
Please provide a link proving my self-hatred, and my hatred of my fellow Americans — and my acceptance thereof.
Comment by Zooey
He CAN’T.
Just another “straw-man” RAPETARD who supports PNAC TRAITORS like Bush and Kristol and Libby.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:13 pm…wait till China decided to aim those missles at your ass.
Follow blindly sheep…follow blindly…
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
And instead of nuking us, they’re poisoning us, stealing our jobs, poisoning our animals. All while your leader does nothing but hide on his ranch.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:13 pmTP,
mizuno is a really boring troll, can you buy us a new one?
Please?
Please?
August 17th, 2007 at 9:14 pmYou’re cot damn right we’re pissed! Those IslamicAnimals should never have seen another sunrise!!!
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
Mr Pee can’t help pissing himself.
Dismissed.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:14 pmI think this guy is some sort of kook. What do you think, Egg?
Comment by Zooey — August 17, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
I suppose if I really stretched my imagination, I might be able to come up with a scenario where one might have to choose between adhering to the Constitution and saving the country itself. I imagine that was Lincoln’s justification for suspending habeas corpus.
But, in our present circumstances, I think one would have to be fairly kooky to think that the Constitution is not the best instrument yet created by man for preserving a free and prosperous people.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:14 pmLets not forget to support the troops but kill their morale by saying we cannot win.
Comment by mizugo — August 17, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Thats right lamebrain.
Keep ignoring those who put them in that no win scenario and executed it so miserably, and keep deriding those who just happened to notice.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:14 pmDems have it all figured it out. I bet most of you went to public school as was told the gov’t will take care of you, it is your big brother, it is okay to let a woman be hit if their culture deems it fit. It is okay to have a class system and be stuck in it.
In America you can be born poor and become rich. In America you have the right to life (unless not born yet), liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
There is no guarantees to happiness…but you can pursue…so don’t let the dem gov’t or the rep gov’t give you any of their give us your money we know better what to do with it….
both sides are sad cases…
August 17th, 2007 at 9:14 pmboth sides are sad cases…
Comment by wizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
Unlike you, whose just a nut case.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:16 pmlil serf…did you read the whole thing…have a leader step forward with an alternative blame to the people…a real clear one…the Dems claim to want to stop the war but have no balls to persuade a snail.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:16 pmTP,
mizuno is a really boring troll, can you buy us a new one?
Please?
Please?
Comment by dixie blood — August 17, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
What about “Liberator?” That boy done been dropped on his head — two, three times at minimum.
Run up behind him and yell BOO!!
August 17th, 2007 at 9:16 pmlil serf…how so…how am I a nut case because I dont follow closely to the dogma of the left…I guestion the answers and try to come up with my own conclusion instead of just crying and following.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:17 pmSending them into a country with no plan for victory, no cause for going in, not enough men and the wrong equipment,,,. THATS not a problem for you.
However mentioning it is.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:18 pmTHATS why you’re a nutcase.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:18 pmdixie blood
see…exactly proven..cannot have a discussion if we dont agree. That is why this country is so great…sorry, was so great….if you cannot respond, you name call…sweet!
August 17th, 2007 at 9:19 pm*
August 17th, 2007 at 9:19 pmfor some reason, this story gets blocked by this site…
can’t imagine why… can you?
i found it fascinating…
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2007/08/17/003.html
a great picture there also…
…
But, in our present circumstances, I think one would have to be fairly kooky to think that the Constitution is not the best instrument yet created by man for preserving a free and prosperous people.
Comment by Egreggious — August 17, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
I agree 100% — about the necessity of protecting this country, and the importance of the Constitution in that process.
And about the troll’s kookiness.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:19 pmlil serf
we had a plan for victory and we won…occupation is the problem….not enough men for the occupation…so the answer is more men and better equipment to sustain the occupation…is that your conclusion?
August 17th, 2007 at 9:20 pmComment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
See? You’ve got nothing — so you pull the “I bet you guys went to public school” card.
Dismissed.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:20 pma great picture there also…
…
Comment by katy — August 17, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
That is quite interesting, katy. Thank you. :)
August 17th, 2007 at 9:22 pmkaty—good point
I read something similar to that earlier…Interesting…there we go CHina with those damn missiles dixie blood…
August 17th, 2007 at 9:23 pmI did not have the good fortune to be home-schooled, so I get a bit confused sometimes.
If it is not the values embodied in the Constitution which make America the greatest nation on Earth, then what is it?
August 17th, 2007 at 9:24 pmwe had a plan for victory and we won…occupation is the problem….not enough men for the occupation…so the answer is more men and better equipment to sustain the occupation…is that your conclusion?
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
Really? Thats what you call winning huh?
You left your enemy on the battlefield, fully armed, mobile and they are killing you to this day, and thats what you call “won”?
I bet when you get in a fight, and throw one punch, you just claim victory and if your opponent keeps beating your head in, you just say “oh, I won the fight, but I didn’t have enough blood in my legs to keep standing”.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:25 pmComment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
Yes, after days and days of your moronic comments I pull out the “Troll Bomb” and “Moron Bomb” and I toss them at you with glee. You obviously think I’m hurting your cred here otherwise you would shut up and go away like a smart person!!
Haahahahah!!
August 17th, 2007 at 9:25 pmzooey
I gave you alot…the gov’t want to keep us in gov’t schools…why not give vouchers so we can send our kids to the schools of higher learning and more challenging instead of the usual indoctrination…think about it…run by gov’t…taught by gov’t….follow gov’t….maybe not true but I like to have choice…free market competition raises the level of education, no?
I mean how many teachers did you have that bored you to sleep or could not teach to save her/his life…yet, you had no choice…neither did your parents…home school is ridiculed too.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:26 pmYou’re an idiot mizuno. A complete moronic idiot.
Troops are dying in the streets as we type these words, and you want to play word games.
Tell you what. Why not shut up, suit up, and head over and help in the big fight, since you’re so all American worked up about supporting the troops?
:|
Oh yea, I forgot. You can’t. Cause you’re just another inbred big mouth waving his plastic flag and cheering as the troops die.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:27 pmEgregarious….it is the people of this country that make is the greatest nation on the Earth…the constitution guides us and keeps us grounded but we make it happen…you and I
August 17th, 2007 at 9:28 pmTest test.
Zooey, you getting this?
August 17th, 2007 at 9:29 pmEgregarious….it is the people of this country that make is the greatest nation on the Earth…the constitution guides us and keeps us grounded but we make it happen…you and I
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
Are we superior to the rest of the planet’s population?
August 17th, 2007 at 9:30 pmLil serf
Thanks man…nice chatting with you…small minded, hate spewing, sheep…
thought we could discuss and debate…I dont have to agree and neither do you…but that type of talk…go and follow…dont think for yourself…
the name fits you…
August 17th, 2007 at 9:30 pmOh yea, I forgot. You can’t. Cause you’re just another inbred big mouth waving his plastic flag and cheering as the troops die.
Why dont you head over there with him since all I hear from the left is that they luuuuuurrve the troops, show your support also.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:31 pmEgregarious….it is the people of this country that make is the greatest nation on the Earth…
Comment by mizsumo — August 17, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
Correction. We WERE the greatest nation on earth.
Now we’re just the most HATED nation on earth.
Thanks to bloodthiristy inbred pigs like you.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:31 pmThere’s going to be a parade and banners any minute now.
I’m out of here.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:32 pmComment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
Actually, I didn’t have any teachers who bored me. Some were better than others, but I took away the best I could. Still do as a university student.
You can go to school wherever you want, but I’m not paying for it.
Why not just make schools better? Why not pay teachers decently, and cull out the bad ones?
I really don’t want to see “competition” and “free market” associated with schools. Just “education.”
August 17th, 2007 at 9:33 pmAre we superior to the rest of the planet’s population?
I vote yes.
I know I know, Im just a nationalistic neocon.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:33 pmand by the way lil serf….our objection was to get rid of Saddam and his goons…we did…we won…the problem is the insurgents from foreign countries like Iran and Saudi and Syria and yes, some Iraqis…
so learn a bit more…
and dixie blood…one punch from to you…good night…is all I would need….
so HAAAAAA!…oh yeah, did you read katys post…read it and get some education….
cannot have a civil conversation with such SHEEP!
August 17th, 2007 at 9:33 pmmizuno sez:
Pot, meet kettle.
You’re the one who won’t stop parroting this corrupt and criminal administration’s morally bankrupt rhetoric. You’re the one who could do with a good dose of critical thinking.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:34 pmZooey
Good point about education…the only problem lately is the teachers union makes it hard to fire the bad ones…
and with vouchers…it is your tax money your are already paying to the gov’t that is just gonna be moved to another school….
you already pay for the education anyhow
August 17th, 2007 at 9:35 pm“Hey, Americans! Do you have any nukes readily available? Us Axis of Evil morons need to be straightened out!â€
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
They don’t need our nukes moron.
The US has approx 7000 nukes with about 5000 in the silos ready to launch.
Russia has over 15,000, with about 9000 in the silos, ready to launch.
Idiot.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:35 pm*
and then this afternoon on rachel, she talked of another news story, coming after this conference…
putin announced that russia has started up again it’s
COMBAT AIR CONTROL… 24hr fly arounds… which ended in 1991…
“2007 is 1991…except it’s way way worse this time” -rachel
these guys are not gonna take our gruff anymore…
August 17th, 2007 at 9:36 pm’s ok with me… long as we respect that and back off and
MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS.
…
This man is seriously senile or insane…saw an interview that he did the other day with Hugh Hewitt…where he said that because Iran was a “paper tiger” we should attack it. ….he didn’t know that a paper tiger refers to a non dangerous shadow of a tiger.
That the National Review would publish something from this idiot…well…sheesh …I thought they at least pretended to be literate.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:36 pmalso at the university you were able to choose to the most extent where you wanted to go…why not at high school?
August 17th, 2007 at 9:36 pmLinTeenie sez:
Yes, we love the troops…enough to want to see them brought home safe, instead of thrown away in this insane meat-grinder of an occupation.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:36 pmlil serf
still calling names…sorry I hurt your feeling and rationale thought…
but we still are the greatest nation in the world…sorry to have to correct you on that one…
August 17th, 2007 at 9:38 pmEgregarious….it is the people of this country that make is the greatest nation on the Earth…the constitution guides us and keeps us grounded but we make it happen…you and I
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
We are guided by the great idea of our founding fathers, and our belief that it just might work. We had respect for the idea and for the guiding documents — and for one another.
Neo-cons are bent on destroying the whole idea, and you are willing to let them.
BTW — It’s “you and me.”
August 17th, 2007 at 9:38 pmand by the way lil serf….our objection was to get rid of Saddam and his goons
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
Yea, that was my “OBJECTION” too. In fact I OBJECTED to it strongly.
:|
So whats your point?
August 17th, 2007 at 9:38 pmcannot have a civil conversation with such SHEEP!
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
Blame that on your mom.
We told you to stick with the public school system.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:40 pmYes, we love the troops…enough to want to see them brought home safe, instead of thrown away in this insane meat-grinder of an occupation.
And thats about the extent of your involvement, now isnt it?
I will add that I agree with you, I would like to see our troops out of there too, albeit for different reasons than you Im sure.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:40 pmthanks zooey…must be an English major….
and I am a neocon, once again…wow, just because I don’t follow the DNC’s ever changing platform…by the way(hint hint) I dont follow the RNC’s platform either
August 17th, 2007 at 9:41 pmAnd I say, we let them have some!!! Hiroshima style!!!!
Comment by Masturbator — August 17, 2007 @ 9:38 pm
We can’t do it Hiroshima style, because the Japanese didn’t have pver 9000 of them to slam back into us,
August 17th, 2007 at 9:42 pmlil serf…mom’s are off limits…
August 17th, 2007 at 9:42 pmyou already pay for the education anyhow
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:35 pm
Yes, and I’m not having a voucher system take my tax money to pay for religion-led education.
That goes against what this country is about.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:43 pmYou mean like your mom?
Comment by LIL SERF — August 17, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
I see that TP is utilizing their varsity debaters tonight; imagine what the JV sounds like.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:43 pmserf…mom’s are off limits…
Comment by morono — August 17, 2007 @ 9:42 pm
Yea?
Well you should have said something before she stopped by.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:43 pmlil serf how much education did you get…
August 17th, 2007 at 9:43 pmLibTeenie sez:
Seems to be a damn sight better involvement than yours.
Please…elaborate on these “reasons” of yours. I’m up for a laugh.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:44 pmI see that TP is utilizing their varsity debaters tonight;
Comment by Thorpe Abbotts — August 17, 2007 @ 9:43 pm
As opposed to the right wings master-debaters?
August 17th, 2007 at 9:44 pm23,000 American held prisoners in Iraq and growing daily,(good for business)
750 children, ages 11-17
August 17th, 2007 at 9:44 pmalso at the university you were able to choose to the most extent where you wanted to go…why not at high school?
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:36 pm
I don’t know what the solution is to an educational system that spits out idiots like Liberator and michael and other idiot trolls. But I do think that the quality of a child’s education should not be based on their economic status.
What differentiates many colleges and universities from each other in quality has much to do with the amount of money these institutions have to invest. I would hate to see public grade and high schools become even more differentiated by the ability of the children’s families to pay for their education.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:45 pmlil serf how much education did you get…
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:43 pm
From your mom?
Well, I’d say she taught me a lot, but I’ve seen animals doing that before.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:45 pmthere you go serf…just a little pimple on this planet…is that all you have to debate…going back to gov’t middle school, getting picked on because you were so much a loner, nobody liked you…
go get some free assistance from the hand out gov’t you so crave…sloth.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:45 pmand I am a neocon, once again…
Comment by wizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
Yea?
Congratulations.
When did you stop?
August 17th, 2007 at 9:46 pmlil serf how much education did you get…
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:43 pm
I betting that it’s more than you mizuno!!
August 17th, 2007 at 9:47 pmthanks zooey…must be an English major….
and I am a neocon, once again…wow, just because I don’t follow the DNC’s ever changing platform…by the way(hint hint) I dont follow the RNC’s platform either
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
No, not an English major, just a public school education. Pretty basic English skills.
I didn’t say YOU were a neo-con. Reading comprehension problems as well?
How could I know your politics? I simply said that it appears you are willing to allow the neo-cons (who are currently in power, and who would like to stay in power) to trash the Constitution and our rights.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:47 pmgo get some free assistance from the hand out gov’t you so crave
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:45 pm
I can get bombed all by myself thank you.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:47 pmoooOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOOoooo……………..
Comment by Masterbator — August 17, 2007 @ 9:47 pm
Clean that up when you get through.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:49 pmThorpe Abbots sez:
LIL SERF’s comment was in response to this comment by Libertyhater:
Seeing as how you trolls are fielding your JV tonight, you’ll forgive us if we don’t strain ourselves crafting witty, insightful responses to your gibbering garbage.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:49 pmSeems to be a damn sight better involvement than yours.
I doubt it but think what you like, this is America after all.
Please…elaborate on these “reasons†of yours. I’m up for a laugh.
Because the civil war that the muslims have been busy brewing for the last thousand years needs to have some sort of conclusion. Perhaps if the sides finally went at one another they might use up some of the inbred bloodlust that keeps them at each other’s throats.
Corpses piled in the streets throughout the middle east might bring the few sensible ones who live there to decide its time the muslim religion yanked itself into the 21 century.
It might just take a slaughter of gigantic proportions to bring them to their senses, certainly nothing else seems to work.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:51 pmEgreggious
do u understand the voucher system? If a child lives in a run down neighborhood where the school is failing him/her that voucher provided by the gov’t allows that child to go to a better school…almost like a scholarship…rich kids will always have the choice, it gives less privilaged the chance to a better education…a better start.
most gov’t fights it because the teacher’s union pays them….another example of special interest greed.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:52 pmA liberal, making an authoritative assertion about what
The UNITED STATES of AMERICA is about!!!
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
As opposed to a neocon making an authoritative ass of the United States of America?
August 17th, 2007 at 9:52 pmLiberator sez:
So, anyone you label a “liberal” is disqualified from making authoritative statements?
How very convenient for you.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:52 pmWhat differentiates many colleges and universities from each other in quality has much to do with the amount of money these institutions have to invest. I would hate to see public grade and high schools become even more differentiated by the ability of the children’s families to pay for their education.
Comment by Egreggious — August 17, 2007 @ 9:45 pm
Yay, Egg!
August 17th, 2007 at 9:54 pmzooey
I would never allow that…GOOD NIGHT ALL…and GOOD RIDDANCE lil serf
August 17th, 2007 at 9:54 pmA liberal, making an authoritative assertion about what
The UNITED STATES of AMERICA is about!!!
Too funny!
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
Prove that I am wrong.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:55 pmI would never allow that…GOOD NIGHT ALL…and GOOD RIDDANCE lil serf
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:54 pm
Well since you’re the one leaving, I will concur.
Good riddance.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:56 pmAnd don’t let the door hit you,…. you know…. on the way out.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:56 pmIf a child lives in a run down neighborhood where the school is failing him/her that voucher provided by the gov’t allows that child to go to a better school…
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
And eventually no one would end up going to the school in the run-down neighborhood.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:57 pmWell mizuno’s heading for the exit.
:|
My work here is done.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:58 pm“The difference between you and me” seems correct to me.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:59 pmAm I using correct English? I thought that I had mastered the pretty basic English skills? Maybe I’m just an idiot.
Comment by Jon S. — August 17, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
“You” are not the person I was referring to, f*ckwit.
This is mizunos statement — containing his incorrect use of “you and I.”
You think you’re clever, but you’re simply stupid.
August 17th, 2007 at 9:59 pmI would never allow that…GOOD NIGHT ALL…and GOOD RIDDANCE lil serf
Comment by mizuno — August 17, 2007 @ 9:54 pm
It wouldn’t be in YOUR control, would it? Geez….
August 17th, 2007 at 10:00 pmThe difference between you and me†seems correct to me.
Comment by Egreggious — August 17, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
It is correct to everyone but a republican.
They say “The difference between me and ya’ll”
August 17th, 2007 at 10:03 pmAnd eventually no one would end up going to the school in the run-down neighborhood.
Comment by Egreggious — August 17, 2007 @ 9:57 pm
Schools need to be repaired or rebuilt all across this country. Kids can’t learn if the building is falling down around them.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:03 pmNo. I agree, that is one of the reasons why I find it ironic.
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
M’kay.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:04 pmDid you want me to say “the Constitution is just plain silly,†earlier?
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
Actually I was hoping you’d make your pitch for slavery again.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:04 pmLibTeenie sez:
Indeed. You’re entitled to your own views…warped though they are.
What you’re not entitled to is using those warped and fatally flawed views to justify the continued deaths of American soldiers and Iraqi civilians. You can try, but I (among others) will call you on your obscene bullshit every time.
Thank you so very much. I was looking for a good laugh tonight, and you certainly didn’t disappoint.
The moronic assumption that we can somehow bring the millenia-spanning feud between these people to an end is a shining example of American hubris at its finest. You’d probably station American soldiers between lions and leapords with the same demented rationale.
Or maybe…just maybe…it will inspire these muslims to take up arms against the forces of the West that are causing them so much pain and suffering. But you’re probably OK with another generation of terrorists, since that provides justification for your hateful policies.
Worked wonders for us, didn’t it?
August 17th, 2007 at 10:04 pmThey say “The difference between me and ya’llâ€
Bunch of damn suthanus.
Just like Edwards, Clinton and Gore.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:05 pmSchools need to be repaired or rebuilt all across this country. Kids can’t learn if the building is falling down around them.
Comment by Zooey — August 17, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
A lesson they are learning in Iraq, where the walls are literally “falling down around them”.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:05 pmActually I was hoping you’d make your pitch for slavery again.
Comment by Egreggious — August 17, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
He has a pitch for slavery? Great….
August 17th, 2007 at 10:06 pmJust like Edwards, Clinton and Gore.
Comment by IlikeLibTeenies — August 17, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
Better be nice to them.
You’ll be calling one of them Mr\Madam President soon.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:06 pmA lesson they are learning in Iraq, where the walls are literally “falling down around themâ€.
Comment by LIL SERF — August 17, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
Very true.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:07 pmActually I was hoping you’d make your pitch for slavery again.
Comment by Egreggious — August 17, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
lol
August 17th, 2007 at 10:07 pmYou’ll be calling one of them Mr\Madam President soon.
Comment by LIL SERF — August 17, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
Oh my, they’re gonna fuss and whine when the next president has all the powers of THIS president.
Waaahhh!!
August 17th, 2007 at 10:09 pmpssst… on account a’ all da libs….. you know what I mean)
Comment by Masterbator — August 17, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
I’m not even sure if you know what you mean.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:09 pmHe has a pitch for slavery? Great….
Comment by Zooey — August 17, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
yea… and tatoos on forearms too…
August 17th, 2007 at 10:10 pmit needs to be stopped early… before the meth takes over…
…
Oh my, they’re gonna fuss and whine when the next president has all the powers of THIS president.
Waaahhh!!
Comment by Zooey — August 17, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
Actually, I’m starting to hope its Clinton, just because they’ll have to all cowtow to a woman, not to mention a Clinton.
:D
That could be a lot of fun.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:11 pmIn fact, … where’s my checkbook……
August 17th, 2007 at 10:12 pmLIL SERF sez:
Considering Clinton’s AIPAC ties, I’m rather apprehensive about the prospect of a President Hillary.
Not that the American public actually has anything to say about it, though…
August 17th, 2007 at 10:14 pmthey’ll have her assassinated, lil serf… you know it…
August 17th, 2007 at 10:14 pmor obama too…
.
The moronic assumption that we can somehow bring the millenia-spanning feud between these people to an end is a shining example of American hubris at its finest. You’d probably station American soldiers between lions and leapords with the same demented rationale.
Ummm, you did read my post that said I agree with you that we should get our troops out of Iraq? In case you already forgot, its post #129. Heh.
Or maybe…just maybe…it will inspire these muslims to take up arms against the forces of the West that are causing them so much pain and suffering. But you’re probably OK with another generation of terrorists, since that provides justification for your hateful policies.
Im not in the government, they arent my policies, but then you knew that didnt you? How exactly would a civil war between two feuding sides of a religion inspire them to unite against a west (in this case the U.S.) who are no longer an occupying force? Arent we the only thing keeping them apart now, at least according to the current lib talking points? (hint: reference Schumer’s latest statement)
Did you even understand what I said? I want our troops gone because the savages in the middle east who are busy car-bombing one another need to get their ancient struggle over with and get on with joining the rest of the world.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:14 pmThat could be a lot of fun.
Comment by LIL SERF — August 17, 2007 @ 10:11 pm
Ouch. Any other women thinking of running….?
August 17th, 2007 at 10:15 pmthey’ll have her assassinated, lil serf… you know it…
or obama too…
.
Comment by katy — August 17, 2007 @ 10:14 pm
Not Hilary they won’t.
You can’t kill the undead.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:15 pmOuch. Any other women thinking of running….?
Comment by Zooey — August 17, 2007 @ 10:15 pm
Compared to what we’ve had to endure the last 7 years, Hilary would seem like Mother Teresa.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:16 pmthey’ll have her assassinated, lil serf… you know it…
or obama too…
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
-cough-cough-
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Whooooo, this site always cheers me up! I love you guys.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:17 pm:|
At this point I’d vote for Slappy White.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:17 pmmaybe i got you confused with your bff CT… but i don’t think so…
…
that’s mean, lil serf ;-)
…
puppy wants to walk…
August 17th, 2007 at 10:18 pmlater…
Actually, I’m starting to hope its Clinton
I hope its Clinton too, that way HillaryCareâ„¢ can be resurrected and hopefully my wife will get her government station in Honolulu.
Ummmmm…poi.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:19 pmNah, I don’t believe in tattoos.
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
He also denies global warming.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:19 pmI love you guys.
Comment by Ilove2fondleTeenies — August 17, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
I told you we’re all over 12.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:19 pmthat’s mean, lil serf ;-)
…
Comment by katy — August 17, 2007 @ 10:18 pm
Ya liked that one ay?
:D
August 17th, 2007 at 10:20 pmYou do that.
Comment by GLiberator — August 17, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
He’d beat anything you clowns have to offer.
:|
And he’s dead.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:22 pmI told you we’re all over 12.
Physically maybe…mentally….eh.
Ya see, we were having a good time and then “LIL SERF” has to jump in and yelp and slander and so on.
I still love it here, the chuckles keep a’ comin on a regular basis despite the attempts of the lesser beings to start a fight.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:22 pmOf course so is Duncan Hunter.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:23 pmPhysically maybe…mentally….eh.
Comment by LuvTeenies — August 17, 2007 @ 10:22 pm
No role playing either.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:24 pmthe chuckles keep a’ comin on a regular basis
Comment by LikeTeenies — August 17, 2007 @ 10:22 pm
Everytime you open your mouth.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:26 pmI tell ya, I’d love to see that.
Comment by Masterbator — August 17, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
I told you guys we’re all over 12.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:27 pmLet’s hear what the experts themselves say about SCGW!
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
Al Gore has agreed to debate global warming if you will debate this man about the existence of tattoos.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:29 pmNah, I don’t believe in tattoos.
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
He also denies global warming.
Comment by Egreggious — August 17, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
Doesn’t believe in tattoos? That’s a ridiculous statement.
So is the global warming denial. Sheesh…
August 17th, 2007 at 10:31 pmThat is rude.
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 10:26 pm
Now you’re concerned about rudeness? That’s rich.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:32 pmAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Masterbator — August 17, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
Don’t forget to clean that up when you’re done.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:32 pm…debate this man about the existence of tattoos.
Comment by Egreggious — August 17, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
Wow. I think that’s pretty conclusive evidence that tattoos exist.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:35 pmLIL SERF, you are on fire. I’m giving you a standing ovation. Thanks.
August 17th, 2007 at 11:20 pmSo I guess you have come to terms and accepted the fact that, like a true liberal, you will spend the rest of your life hating yourself and your countrymen!!!
Comment by Liberator — August 17, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
No, we’re just hating on the little cowardly pricks like you who have weakened this country andmade it into a laughingsock world-wide and a target. If you had the courage of your convictions, you might have something worth listening to, but you dont so you have no standing. your words are just hot air, farts from your mouth.
August 18th, 2007 at 12:07 am“Don’t LIE by saying that Saddam did not have ambitions to get WMDs! We all KNOW he wanted them!
Comment by Liberator “
Oh Wow…Saddam wanted WMD’s. He didn’t have any but he wanted them. Great reason to invade a country that posed no threat to us. What do you want to do Liberator, invade every country in the middle east until the United States controls all their oil? And if so, how exactly could this be done?
You are too idiotic to even try to talk to. I’m done with you. Continue to throw sh1t on the wall all you want. It does no good. You and yours are on a downward spiral that you can’t stop. I’ll laugh when you hit bottom and crash.
August 18th, 2007 at 1:05 amPardon me.
Comment by Fiberator — August 18, 2007 @ 1:06 am
Talk to Bush.
I hear he’s giving them away.
August 18th, 2007 at 1:28 amSee, the real problem with Abu Ghraib wasn’t the torture, rapes, or murders.
It was those bloody Iraqis who wouldn’t go along willingly.
Of course, it mattered little that most of the tortured at that prison, were not “Islamic murderers”, or even that some were minors.
So speak the sociopathic supporter and cheerleader of an equally sociopathic administration.
August 18th, 2007 at 2:00 amWell hello…we true American patriots just don’t approve of inhumane treatment of fellow humans or animals or the envirement or just about anything, it is just wrong….who would Jesus mistreat?
1. Would he promote the destruction of the environment?
2. Would he promote the destruction of other human beings for control of mid-eastern oil?
3. This list just goes on too long to post on a single thread, but you get my drift.
I am an atheist, but I am smart enough and humane enough to know that most of what Jesus taught was right, just not the God part….can’t be superstitious, but the words he taught to live by are so right on, too bad you Repukian scum can’t see that
August 18th, 2007 at 2:16 amAbu Ghraib was a national embarrassment. Bush can never do enough to undo the damage it did to our moral standing around the world. It also damaged our standing in the Middle East.
August 18th, 2007 at 2:47 ammmm bop!
August 18th, 2007 at 10:58 ammmm bop!
Comment by john m — August 18, 2007 @ 10:58 am
must respond… I LOVE THAT SONG!
i can’t help it… it brought out the teeny bopper in me, all over again!
August 18th, 2007 at 12:04 pmfor me, it’s right up there with DO WA DITTY as an all time FAVE!
(in that bubble gum category)
when hanson came out with that, my daughter, who was of appropriate age, just loved the group, and i loved the song…
still do! … both of us!
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“i read the article and i agree that it is incredibly stupid. i would even argue that it is deceptive and dishonest
Comment by english teacher — August 17, 2007″
Are you going to tell us why? Or are you going to continue slinging liberal mud?
August 18th, 2007 at 1:18 pm“Gitmo, Abu, The surge is a failure, OBL is still on the loose, ports are still wide open, borders allowing millions to come here still wide open.Iraqi deaths on the rise, American deaths on the rise, Iraqi’s are starving, fleeing by the millions, no electricity, no jobs, no food, no clean running water. Our troops are tired, worn out, low morale.
Comment by Capt Morgan — August 17, 2007″
Bla bla bla bla! All the typical cowardly liberal talking points”
August 18th, 2007 at 1:23 pm“it mattered little that most of the tortured at that prison
Comment by Gregor Samsa — August 18, 2007″
There was no torture going on there. Humiliation, yes. Torture, no!
August 18th, 2007 at 1:24 pmHumiliation, yes. Torture, no!
Comment by michael — August 18, 2007 @ 1:24 pm
Even if that is true, it still constitutes a violation of the Geneva Conventions, and a war crime.
Thanks for playing.
August 18th, 2007 at 1:42 pmBush can never do enough to undo the damage it did to our moral standing around the world. It also damaged our standing in the Middle East.
Comment by Probus — August 18, 2007 @ 2:47 am
Yeah, especially since the American miltary is the only one to ever mistreat prisoners. Unprecedented! ;)
August 18th, 2007 at 3:50 pm“it still constitutes a violation of the Geneva Conventions, and a war crime.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — August 18, 2007″
The Geneva Convention does not apply to enemy combatants. What war crime was committed?
August 18th, 2007 at 5:43 pmWhat war crime was committed?
Comment by michael — August 18, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
A lot of the prisoners tortured at Abu Ghraib were civilians, caught in wide sweeps in Baghdad, including the women who were raped and the minors who were sodomised, and the man who was killed.
Any military occupier is bound by the conventions to treat civilians humanely. A systematic failure to do so constitutes a violation of the convention, and hence a war crime.
Thanks for playing.
August 18th, 2007 at 6:16 pm” A systematic failure to do so constitutes a violation of the convention, and hence a war crime.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — August 18, 2007″
What convention are you referring to? Certainly not the Geneva, because it doesn’t apply.
August 18th, 2007 at 7:24 pm“including the women who were raped and the minors who were sodomised, and the man who was killed.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — August 18, 2007″
Who raped and sodomized women and children?
August 18th, 2007 at 7:26 pmComment by michael — August 18, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
The detainees were civilians so the Geneva Conventions certainly apply.
And as for who was doing the raping and the sodomising, it was the American prison guards, you know, the ones who were convicted and are now serving time in prison.
If you read the newspapers more often than once a decade you’d know and I wouldn’t have to repeat any of this. Here is a link to get you started. I suggest you read the text instead of just looking at the pictures.
August 19th, 2007 at 1:53 amThink Progress and TP and libtards and progs progressives
August 20th, 2007 at 6:12 pm