Rove On Whether He’ll Answer Questions About His Potentially Illegal Acts: ‘Nice Try’
Rove On Whether He’ll Answer Questions About His Potentially Illegal Acts: ‘Nice Try’
On the Sunday shows this morning, Karl Rove was treated largely with kid gloves by the hosts and was not forced to confront many difficult questions about his ethical improprieties while serving in the White House.
In three Sunday show appearances, he was not asked once about his efforts to politicize the federal government, despite the fact that a front-page article appeared on that very subject this morning in the Washington Post. Rove was also not asked about his role in selling the war prior to the invasion. Nor was he asked about his connections to Jack Abramoff, his use of non-White House email accounts, or his stewardship over the Katrina reconstruction efforts.
On Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace attempted to press Rove on two troubling aspects of Rove’s record: his outing of Valerie Plame and his efforts to dismiss U.S. attorneys who refused to comply with the White House’s political orders. When Wallace tried to press for answers on these issues, Rove repeatedly answered, “Nice try”:
WALLACE: Why did you push to fire some U.S. attorneys in the president’s second term?
ROVE: Nice try.
[…]
WALLACE: What do you think of Joe Wilson?
ROVE: I’m not going to comment. Nice try.
[…]
WALLACE: When was the first time you told the president [about leaking Plame’s identity]?
ROVE: I’m not going to — again, nice try.
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Unable to generate substantive answers to legitimate questions, Wallace backed off and moved to other questions.
At the conclusion of the interview, Rove acknowledged that his unwillingness to be candid would intensify congressional pressure on him. “Let’s face it. I mean, I’m a myth, and they’re — you know, I’m Beowulf. You know, I’m Grendel. I don’t know who I am. But they’re after me,” Rove said.
Transcript:
WALLACE: The Constitution does not prevent you from speaking to me so, in fact, I’ll ask you some questions.
Why did you push to fire some U.S. attorneys in the president’s second term?
ROVE: Nice try. You — the president has prerogatives that stand up not only to Congress, but also to you.
WALLACE: Well, I’m simply asking you what you did.
ROVE: And what I advised the president is protected by that prerogative. Nice try, Chris.
[…]
WALLACE: What do you think of Joe Wilson?
ROVE: I’m not going to comment. Nice try.
WALLACE: Finally…
ROVE: What do you think about Mr. Wilson?
WALLACE: Nice try.
[…]
WALLACE: When was the first time you told the president?
ROVE: I’m not going to — again, nice try. I’ve said I’m not going to — there is a civil lawsuit. I’m not going to expand the public record.
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Come on Faiz……
You and I both know that before Rove would talk with them, that they had to promise not too ask those questions….
August 19th, 2007 at 11:35 amI am quite sure that Rove told the interviewers that as a condition of his appearance, they would not ask him any hard questions. So, what was the purpose of having Rove on their shows? A puff piece for Turdblossom. They should be ashamed of themselves, especially if they call their show “news”.
August 19th, 2007 at 11:36 amCan’t wait til they get him under oath and all those “nice tries” become “I don’t recall.”
August 19th, 2007 at 11:36 amKarl Rove’s true legacy? The permanent debasement of American politics itself.
For the details, see:
August 19th, 2007 at 11:40 am“The Base Politics of Karl Rove.”
Rove beat libs in 1994.
Rove destroyed libs in 2000.
Rove pounced libs in 2002.
Rove smashed libs in 2004.
Suck on that, lib scum.
August 19th, 2007 at 11:41 amfirehead, what about 2006?
August 19th, 2007 at 11:43 amAnd 2008?
August 19th, 2007 at 11:43 amYou forgot Rove destroyed the Republican party in 2006 for GOOD. There’s something for you to suck on sonny.
August 19th, 2007 at 11:44 ambeat…destroyed…smashed..?”:..that’s the flaw. Rove took a slim majority victory, and acted like it was a huge electoral mandate. This, plus world class incompetence, is the Bush legacy.
August 19th, 2007 at 11:45 amThe price….? coming to a voting booth next November.
You sure that should be FIREhead?
August 19th, 2007 at 11:46 amWhat the hell do you expect from this sleeping, compliant suck-up to Israel sycophantic LameStream Press?
August 19th, 2007 at 11:48 amRove destroyed libs in 2000
Comment by firehead — August 19, 2007 @ 11:41 am
Stealing an election via the Supreme Court is destroying the Democrats? Now we know who is in the 28%tile…the dumbest people the USA has to offer.
August 19th, 2007 at 11:48 amI don’t think firehead is at a loss for things to suck on.
Right now, he apparently has Rover’s minuscule little dick in his mouth.
August 19th, 2007 at 11:50 amAll of the above trumped by: Rove commits treason in 2005.
August 19th, 2007 at 11:52 amPaid Pundits Rule.
The Intrepid Reporter : an endangered species.
How sad.
August 19th, 2007 at 11:53 amIf Rove “destroyed libs”, then how come we are still here?
Firehead why do you champion corruption? Nice Christian morals.
August 19th, 2007 at 11:55 amI agree that Rove probably laid down ground rules before making, what in all likelihood would be for the foreseeable future, his final appearance on these Sunday talk shows. The only one left who could nail him would be TWw/GS. Note that he appeared on all three of the other shows (MTP, FTN, and FNS) and was even airing at the same time on two of them. (He was on at the beginning of both MTP and FTN. I don’t watch FNC, so I don’t know what time he appeared there.) I watched David Gregory attempt to get answers out of him on MTP. Rove knows that these time-constrained formats would not give the host ample time to press him on issues, so all he has to do is stall and beg off giving answers, and the hosts would accomodate him because they had other questions for him to not answer. It’s a game that politicans have been playing with the Sunday shows for years. If the shows would give up on their silly “roundtable formats” (which, because they have extreme right-wingers versus, at best, moderate liberals, contribute nothing useful to any discussion), they would have more time to grill people like Rove. Who cares of never agrees to appear on the program again? He’s not going to tell the truth, only his warped perception of it.
August 19th, 2007 at 11:59 amIt was so nice of Chris to be on Karl’s show this morning.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:03 pmRose Tyler = Zooey
TP won’t let me post as Zooey for some reason.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:05 pmIt was interesting, however, that in the second segment of MTP, Matt Cooper said that Rove was ‘dissembling’ which is punditspeak for ‘lying’ when it came to what Karl knew and when he knew it. Too bad Cooper made his remark and then we ‘moved on’ to the wit and wisdom of Kate O’Beirne. And how come no one has ever asked Kate about her husband’s role is utterly f*cking up the Green Zone staff in Baghdad? I’m just sayin’.
As I watched David Gregory not press the Rovester on anything really important, I couldn’t help flashing back to the vomit-inducing “I am MC Rove” moment at whatever Washington Beltway function that was. How on earth does GE think the American public is so stupid as to forget that light-hearted bonding moment between the media and the Bush Junta?
Oh….never mind.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:05 pmRove leaves quite a legacy.
A Republican party in such shambles that it cannot even put forward a potential candidate for the next presidential cycle who is not a serial adulterer, a doddering senile fool, or a rich slick flipflopping member of a religion that half of America will refuse to vote for.
A Republican party that is a disaster area, radioactive.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:07 pmRove has destroyed the Republican party.
And himself.
How this man can look himself in a mirror -and- sleep at night is beyond me.
Rove is truly an Evil man.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:08 pmRove is the anti-democratic.
Interesting how firehead doesn’t cite anything past 2004. Selective amnesia runs rampant throughout the Republican party.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:08 pmWho cares of never agrees to appear on the program again? He’s not going to tell the truth, only his warped perception of it.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — August 19, 2007 @ 11:59 am
Right, Wayne. If any of these Corporate News people had any integrity or gave a shit about their country, they would have pressed Rove until he squeaked. So he won’t agree to be on their show again — boo frickin’ hoo.
This roach needs a light shined on him — and a good dose of bug spray.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:09 pmre#19
Nice choice of handle!
Rose Tyler = My 2nd favorite of Dr Who companion
Leela = My favorite Dr Who companion
August 19th, 2007 at 12:11 pmJolly, jolly. Last week, Rove who never graduated from college was quoted Melville and Moby Dick, this week it’s Beowulf and Grendel. What a friggin’ phony.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:11 pmThis roach needs a light shined on him — and a good dose of bug spray.
Comment by Rose Tyler — August 19, 2007 @ 12:09 pm
Can we settle for having Tom DeLay exhale on him? I’m sure he still has enough bug spray in his lungs to do the job.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:11 pmComment by criticalthinker — August 19, 2007 @ 12:11 pm
You’re the second person to recognize the name! Cool!
Leela was the last one I really liked until Rose. I haven’t seen any of the shows with the new companion, can’t wait for the DVD!
August 19th, 2007 at 12:14 pmJolly, jolly. Last week, Rove who never graduated from college was quoting Melville and Moby Dick, this week it’s Beowulf and Grendel. What a friggin’ phony.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:14 pmIn Rove’s own words: “They’re after me.”
He couldn’t say anything because he is certainly going to be called to testify to those matters.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:15 pmCan we settle for having Tom DeLay exhale on him? I’m sure he still has enough bug spray in his lungs to do the job.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — August 19, 2007 @ 12:11 pm
Breathe on him while lounging in a hot tub — photographer standing by…
August 19th, 2007 at 12:15 pmHey Karl,
Just because you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean we’re not out to get you.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:16 pmYou forgot Rove destroyed the Republican party in 2006 for GOOD. There’s something for you to suck on sonny.
What are you smoking?
August 19th, 2007 at 12:16 pmTest….What happened to my only post today, TP?…
August 19th, 2007 at 12:18 pmRove has destroyed the Republican party.
And himself.
How this man can look himself in a mirror -and- sleep at night is beyond me.
Comment by Kay — August 19, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
When you have exchanged your soul for power, there is nothing you won’t do to serve your thirst for it. Those of us who still have our soul, our conscience, our values — we’re the ones with barriers and limits.
Rove is a pathetic creature who will never regain his humanity. When he says that his only mistake was saying something unkind to a co-worker (as described in another thread), and has absolutely no qualms about the lives he’s ruined, the political party he has destroyed, and the country he has damaged, he has ceased to think of others as human beings.
I still have a conscience and a soul. Rove is a great example of what could happen when you give them up.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:18 pmRe 28
Yes, equally phony was rove’s statement that bush is a history buff who reads all the time. Remember when he told brian williams that he was reading “a camuu and some shakespeares”?
August 19th, 2007 at 12:18 pmWhat are you drinking? Oh, yeah - Koolaid.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:19 pmBeowulf? Grendel?
Nice try yourself, KKKarl, but I prefer Nazi and Goebbels
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August 19th, 2007 at 12:25 pmDear Mr. Rove,
I’ve read Beowulf and you’re no Beowulf.
Susan Bryan
August 19th, 2007 at 12:26 pmLeela was the last one I really liked until Rose. I haven’t seen any of the shows with the new companion, can’t wait for the DVD!
Comment by Rose Tyler — August 19, 2007 @ 12:14 pm
Martha Jones is a good ‘un. I had my doubts initially, but I’ve warmed to her character. The actress is half Iranian, half Ghanian, according to IMDB. And, well, she’s purty.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:29 pmI think we’re going to see a gradual diminishing of the “Rove’s a genius” eyewash. Conservative columnists are already writing feeble suggestions that maybe Rove hadn’t really helped the conservative program. Eventually, more of them will be willing to acknowledge that he was simply a hack political consultant that was given far more responsibility for policy than he could handle. The ultimate Peter Principle example. Well, maybe the “ultimate” example is his boss, but still. . . he’s up there.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:32 pmOut of three appearances on Poli shows this morning, not once was Rove asked about the missing emails or his use of the GOP email system to side-step WH communications-protection laws.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:33 pmThe Rove fluffers are funny as hell. They say Rove won in 2000, 2002, 2004! Suck on that!
That is like saying a football team won the first three quarters but then lost the game in the fourth quarter but are still claiming victory because of first three quarters.
No, Rove leaves the Whitehouse after a historical defeat in 2006, after saying he’d win. Not to mention Bush is at 26% in the polls. But troll logic says polls don’t matter until congressional approval levels fall then the trolls get excited about polling.
-GSD
August 19th, 2007 at 12:34 pmYeah. George W. Bush was bragging about reading books that most college students read in their freshman year and Chimpy was bragging about it like it was a great accomplishment.
Bush should read “1984″, that might help.
-GSD
August 19th, 2007 at 12:36 pmI’m a myth, and they’re — you know, I’m Beowulf. You know, I’m Grendel.
Oh, so Rove is not claiming to be a big, fat, out-of-control clump of blubber anymore, but cannot decide whether to be a hero or an out-of-control, man-eating beast. Interesting literary choices…
I am puzzled by Rove casting himself in the role of an epic, mythical figure. I believe there are plenty of real-life people we could compare him to.
For his undying support of, devotion to a leader, and his blind commitment to the leader’s party and/or cause over the well-being of the nation, I would put Rove closer to either Rasputin, Ta Mok, Lavrenty Beria, Hermann Göring, Lin Biao, or a combination thereof.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:37 pmHe should have stuck to the talking point that prosecutors serve at the pleasure of the prez. He clearly has something to hide.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:38 pmTurd blossom is not out of danger yet. We will see fat boy doing the ” perp walk” in the near future.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:39 pmI suspect Rove didn’t quite understand either Moby Dick or Beowulf, assuming he even read these books at all.
“I’m Beowulf. You know, I’m Grendel.”? WTF? This is like saying “I’m Robin Hood, you know, I’m the Sheriff of Nottingham”, or “I’m Harry Potter, you know, I’m Voldemort”.
Although the last one might be too close to comfort for Rove.
And this is Bush’s brain? What an idiot.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:48 pm“Eventually, more of them will be willing to acknowledge that he was simply a hack political consultant that was given far more responsibility for policy than he could handle. The ultimate Peter Principle example. Well, maybe the “ultimate†example is his boss, but still. . . he’s up there.”
Comment by gummitch
I don’t know if Rove’s’s politically radioactive, but he’s certainly damaged goods. Anyone contemplating hiring him might think they’re getting a savvy player, but opponents will use his former involvement in the Bush admin. against anyone who tryies it. His negatives are greater that Cheney’s…
August 19th, 2007 at 12:49 pmRove left the WH to “spend time with his family”. Where are they at? Texas? or in a plush condo off the beltway in Fairfax?
August 19th, 2007 at 12:50 pmHe thinks we are too stupid to think.
By the way, I didn’t watch, did any of the Sunday pundits call him a chump? No?
#49
Apparently Rove’s family is in 3 different TV studios.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:52 pmI think we’re going to see a gradual diminishing of the “Rove’s a genius†[…]
Comment by gummitch — August 19, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
i surely hope so… it is way past “getting old”…
i remember listening to sam seder (great show, sundays 2-5 eastern on
http://www.airamerica.com/ ) last week talking about rove’s leaving…
he said that rove should not be “diefied”… this guy destroyed the repub party… he was trying to destroy the country, the constitution, the rule of law - all for the sake of a very misguided, misbegotten ideal of one-party rule, not even governance, but RULE…
someone so smug and self-righteous NEEDS to be brought down HARD… and SOON.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:53 pm.
keep trying to reply to **/Rose/zooey and the posts get eaten, Freakin weird.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:55 pm“I am puzzled by Rove casting himself in the role of an epic, mythical figure. I believe there are plenty of real-life people we could compare him to.”
I’ll just bet that the “anonymous administration official” who was once quoted saying something about “And when we act, we create a new reality, and you will report it” - or something as bombastic, was Rove. He reads stories of courage and nobility, and thinks in these terms, even while going after a critic’s wife; something even the Mafia doesn’t do.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:55 pmRove: You’re going to let me SKATE on Contempt of Congress charges, and my CRIMINAL ACTS for the past 6 years, right??
Congress: NOPE!! Nice TRY, Karl!
August 19th, 2007 at 12:56 pmIf there is a god, Karl Rove will one day be held to account for his crimes, as will Chaney, Bush and Gonzales. It may not be until after the Democrats take control, but if there is a god it will happen. It has to happen if we are ever going to regain our self-respect as a country and if we are ever going to regain the respect of the rest of the world.
August 19th, 2007 at 12:59 pmComment by Wayne — August 19, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
This thread seems hyper-sensitive. Not sure why. I saw your post on the 82nd Airborne thread. :)
August 19th, 2007 at 1:02 pmI don’t know if Rove’s’s politically radioactive, but he’s certainly damaged goods. Anyone contemplating hiring him might think they’re getting a savvy player, but opponents will use his former involvement in the Bush admin. against anyone who tryies it. His negatives are greater that Cheney’s…
Comment by barfly — August 19, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
Baseball teams regularly make the mistake of paying a lot of money to a player that had a really good year, oh four years back, and has since been a disaster. Rove wasn’t really DFA’d, and some idiot politician would probably be eager to snap him up to add luster to the team. But his ability to add value is simply non-existent.
August 19th, 2007 at 1:04 pmRove’s “genius” was to come into the political arena, already ethically damaged by Lee Atwater, and rip it completely to pieces with his brand of utterly amoral, end justifies the means tactics. 9-11 offered a chance for rank political exploitation as well for someone without conscience, and Rove fit the bill for that as well. Wow, what an innovation.
August 19th, 2007 at 1:08 pmTP must appreciate all the troll-like name-switching they’re forcing us regulars into practicing.
How difficult it must be for them to find an out of work IT person for the simple task of beefing up this site…
August 19th, 2007 at 1:09 pmRose Tyler = Zooey
TP won’t let me post as Zooey for some reason.
Comment by Rose Tyler
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He heeeeee!
They banned your ass!
August 19th, 2007 at 1:14 pm#57-spot on. The smear tactics, swift-boating and up is down mentality worked well on ignorant minions, and played well to the partisans. But so many of the people who proudly called themselves Republicans despise what Rove/Cheney/Bush have done to the nation, not just their party. It isn’t shocking that Rove operated without conscience, but it is shocking he couldn’t see the eventual outcome of his perfidy. Genius-no. Opportunist-yes.
August 19th, 2007 at 1:14 pmRove certainly isn’t Beowulf…
Neither is he Grendel…
He just may be Grendel’s mother.
August 19th, 2007 at 1:24 pmThey should ask him nothing but those kinds of relevant questions. If he wants to go through his professional life from now on saying “I don’t recall”, “nice try”, “no comment”, or some other type of evasion, so be it.
August 19th, 2007 at 1:26 pmThe majority of the comments appearing before mine says it all, this Volley ball Head, Rove is a disaster that walks. Just Look at what he brought on, a worst leader [pres?] ever, a war unjustified, a torn Constitution, that will take years to mend, if ever. This WW2 combat vet has disgust for this administration from it’s inception.
August 19th, 2007 at 1:34 pmPosting problem’s abound……No problem.Exit stage left…
August 19th, 2007 at 1:41 pm#63 As does my father, another WW2 vet who now hates “the boy wonder” more than he did Jimmy Carter 9I never thought that would be possible for him, but wonders never cease).
August 19th, 2007 at 1:42 pmIs this the Chinese internet, yet?
August 19th, 2007 at 1:43 pmWhy bother to ask Karl a meaningful question? You know the answer will be the under oath format “I don’t recall” or its media format equivalent, “Nice try.”
The more meaningful observation is to see when Chimpy starts drooling in his public appearances, thanks to his “Rovebotomy.”
KKKarl will wait a few weeks, then go to work for Twit Romney, inventing plausible rationalizations for his [Romney’s] five sons to not serve in the US Military, meanwhile attacking the patriotism of Obama, Clinton, and Edwards. And he will win thanks to his ability to polarizae the American bias against gay marriage as the only reason to vote in 2008.
And once again, the American people will get what we deserve–four to eight more years of Rove working behind the scenes to sabotage the Constitution.
August 19th, 2007 at 1:50 pmRove, of all people, knowing how much he is despised and hated, should understand that under the system he helped create, the next Democratic President (or Attorney General) could simply declare him to be an “enemy combatant”, have him locked away at Gitmo, denied any chance to have a court review his detention, and there would be nothing he could do about it, even if Bush gave him a full pardon right before leaving office.
And does he really believe that no one would want to do that to him? I know it would be the first thing I would do as president before beginning the process of dismantling those laws. Just apply it to him “one last time”, just to hear him squeal that it’s unfair.
August 19th, 2007 at 1:52 pmI suspect that because of the Hatch Act, Rove will be in court soon. The Washington Post article this morning pointed to numerous violations. I think the Post knows more is coming and that is why they made it the sunday lead. They have the jump on the story. The article alludes to this-excerpts from,”How Rove Directed Federal Assets for GOP Gains”
“Shays wrote Bush on Sept. 8, 2006, to seek the early release - before the election - of heating assistance money for low-income residents in his state. Just four days later, the White House released $6 million.”
snip-
“But the Office of the Special Counsel, which protects whistleblowers, has concluded that the Hatch Act was violated during one such briefing, conducted for General Services Administration political appointees by J. Scott Jennings, the White House’s deputy director of political affairs.”
Whether he ends up in court or in prison or on TV, I hope that Rove stays active in GOPolitics for the next season. He has become the poster child for corrupt Republican politics. He defines them in more ways than they know. Ironically, this morning Rove said that the Republicans lost in 2006, not because of the war, but because of corruption.
August 19th, 2007 at 1:54 pm“Rose Tyler = Zooey
TP won’t let me post as Zooey for some reason.
Comment by Rose Tyler”
Thanks for tipping me off!
August 19th, 2007 at 2:16 pmBut he has “flesh colored hair”!!
August 19th, 2007 at 2:18 pmParanoid schizophrenic?
August 19th, 2007 at 2:22 pmHe heeeeee!
They banned your ass!
Comment by Liberator — August 19, 2007 @ 1:14 pm
and that’s all the rightards have.
hehehehehe, rove cuts and runs, just like reagan and both bush sissies.
August 19th, 2007 at 2:30 pmThanks for tipping me off!
Comment by michael — August 19, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
How slow are you? Common knowledge here for days. You’re really as stupid as your posts. no wonder the GOP is finished.
August 19th, 2007 at 2:31 pmYep, that’s Rove. Somebody calls him a big fish (probably because he’s fat and smells bad) and in his mind, he’s Moby Dick. He’s trying to deflect criticism from his and Bush’s failed Administration. We’re not buying it, KKKarl. Nice try.
August 19th, 2007 at 2:37 pmGrendel? Beowulf? Don’t flatter yourself twerp. You’re just a nasty little bump in the political road. Talk about your delusions of grandeur!
August 19th, 2007 at 2:42 pmAnyone else notice the resemblance of Turdblossom to one of Rush Limbaugh’s anal cysts (the ones that kept him from serving in Vietnam)?
But seriously, given the developments of this week, (Karl needs his family, Tony needs his bankroll, and the ersatz declaration of war against the Iran Republican Guard), does anyone doubt that the vacating of WH offices is due to Cheney’s imminent attack on Iran?
August 19th, 2007 at 2:50 pmRove beat libs…here you have, one more time, the fixed and deluded perspective of someone whose news comes from O’Reilly and the rest of the hate-mongering corporatist coprolites of the right.
August 19th, 2007 at 3:16 pmThe thing Rove has done is tarnish if not outright destroy real conservatism, replacing it with a fiscally deranged collective of fat, rich, power-grubbing bastards. That’s who he plays to, Bush’s “Have and Have Mores”, and the truly sad thing in American politics is that while he’s set to work, faux-”regular Joe” bloviators like O’Reilly have conned the average fools into thinking that giving your wealth to the wealthiest is good for you and everybody else is just an evil liberal. As usual, when it’s painted as “either or” this way, it’s all utter bullshit. Rove would have spontaneously combusted if it hadn’t been for the swine of the media. So why expect hardball questions now?
The current mortgage mess is the new S&L scandal–another occasion of the GOP letting Wall Street and co. loose. It only happens on GOP watches, kids, because it’s all about feeding the rich and f**king the rest. Wall Street won’t be the ones who suffer for this debacle. Again.
As much as I’d like to say how little and insignificant Rove is, I cannot. He has left us with election systems that will lose many millions of votes in 2008. The fabric of our democracy has been shredded. Though he did not do it alone by any means, Karl Rove was a key organizer. He taught the Republican Party the art of smearing and terrorizing political opponents and mobilizing prejudice and religious extremism. All told, he is a truly despicable man whose nefarious activities will continue to harm us for a long time to come.
August 19th, 2007 at 3:21 pmRove is so smart that he couldn’t predict the mood of the American people in 2006. Every major poll favored a democratic win yet he seemed unable to see the obvious. His special math was wrong.
August 19th, 2007 at 5:57 pmRove will eventually have to come clean on a number of issues. While he has received immunity in Plamegate he will have to comply with Congressional subpoenas. He will have to explain his role in politicizing the General Services administration. Jennings broke the law when he held the powerpoint presentation detail how the GOP could win seats in 2006.
August 19th, 2007 at 5:59 pmRove also broke the law by using RNC email accounts instead of the White House email account. It is a pity that he can’t be impeached for his crimes since he didn’t undergo the appointment process in the Senate. However other avenues are available to both Judiciary Committees. A special prosecutor should be appointed to investigate his and Miers’ role in preparing the list of US attorneys to fire.
August 19th, 2007 at 6:05 pmComment by firehead — August 19, 2007 @ 11:41 am
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Hey firehead, the Nazis had a good run at success in Germany during 1933 - 1945 using the very same tactics Republicans have used. Unfortunately, TRUTH has more endurance that victory based on LIES and HATE.
You, and other Republican Fascists, are going to regret you ever supported George W. Bush. One day, you will deny ever supporting him just like those old sad sack German Nazis apologists you meet every now and then. Its always the same old story, “Yea, ya know the Republicans had good ideas but that George Bush and Karl Rove. No, I never voted for them or what they caused. Not me!” Uh huh…. you just wait… that will be you in ten years.
August 19th, 2007 at 7:23 pmYawn……whatever!
August 19th, 2007 at 7:46 pmFirehead has group sex with other free republic readers and their families…
August 19th, 2007 at 7:48 pm..I heard that one FreeRepublic reader got caught having sex with his teacher! But the worst part was that he was “home-schooled”!!!
August 19th, 2007 at 7:53 pmRove destroyed Dems in 2000 when Gore got 600,000 more votes than Bush?? And Nader got 3,000,000. And the exit polls said Gore won Florida by 3.0%. And the exit polls said Kerry beat Bush by 3,000,000 votes!
August 19th, 2007 at 8:50 pmCoulda gone to a girls high school baseball game and seen better softball.
August 19th, 2007 at 9:07 pm>Yawn……whatever!-bm12
truth hurts, huh?
“But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.â€
- Hermann Goring. leader of the nazi party.
the fact is, we arent being attacked or besieged by any sort of army.
this is a lie.
9-11 was a criminal act commited by less than 50 foreigners. it took 50 foreigners to kill only about 8 times as many people as one american chrisitan criminal and a few compatriots killed in oklahoma. SLIPPING IN THE BATHTUB has killed more americans this decade than crimes commited by foreigners.
they have no fighter planes, no tanks, no battleships, no access to nukes or smallpox, and no army. yet somehow they are a grave threat to our existence. BS. frankly, 9-11 was the worst they could do. if thats the worst they could do, they can’t even outdo one month of american on american firearm fatalties. whether we admit it or not, americans are more more adept at kiling each other than foreigners will ever be.
August 19th, 2007 at 9:22 pm>Yawn……whatever!-bm12
truth hurts, huh?
“But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.â€
August 19th, 2007 at 9:23 pm- Hermann Goring. leader of the nazi party.
the fact is, we arent being attacked or besieged by any sort of army.
this is a lie.
9-11 was a criminal act commited by less than 50 foreigners. it took 50 foreigners to kill only about 8 times as many people as one american chrisitan criminal and a few compatriots killed in oklahoma. SLIPPING IN THE BATHTUB has killed more americans this decade than crimes commited by foreigners.
they have no fighter planes, no tanks, no battleships, no access to nukes or smallpox, and no army. yet somehow they are a grave threat to our existence. BS. frankly, 9-11 was the worst they could do. if thats the worst they could do, they can’t even outdo one month of american on american firearm fatalties. whether we admit it or not, americans are more more adept at kiling each other than foreigners will ever be.
August 19th, 2007 at 9:23 pm>I heard that one FreeRepublic reader got
>caught having sex with his teacher! But the worst part was that he >was “home-schooledâ€!!!
whats even worse was he still couldnt get anything better than a D!
August 19th, 2007 at 9:25 pmKarl Rove testifying in front of Congress.
“Nice try, er, I mean, I don’t recall”
August 19th, 2007 at 10:17 pmSince Rove doesn’t know who he is I tried to clarify this for him on this thread, but the TP filter keeps eating my not-so-nice words.
** sigh **
August 19th, 2007 at 10:17 pm#83: Yawn……whatever!
I know, M12–the malicious lawbreaking and smear campaigns engineered by Rove are sooooooooooooo boring. It would be so much better if the media would just forget about him and focus on real stories, like Anna Nicole Smith and Lindsay Lohan.
August 19th, 2007 at 10:51 pmRove may not know who he is , but the rest of us are on to his sleazy, fat, pastey ass.
August 19th, 2007 at 11:03 pmI think Rove is a hot mess, and I want to fack him.
August 19th, 2007 at 11:41 pmGive this guy some credit.He has himself thinking he’s cool.
Problem is: without the restrictions of wh life he can make all kinds of noise without wh taking heat.
August 19th, 2007 at 11:43 pmSo his massive distraction machine can now work at full capacity.
Now the sewage he produces doesn’t even need to look like anything.
He can swing away.
And you know he will.
Watch out in the outfied seats there are balls of roveroolala coming at you.
Maybe he can’t get it that far.Messy infield.
You, and other Republican Fascists, are going to regret you ever supported George W. Bush.
Comment by RepublicansAreFascists
Former Columbia University Professor Robert O. Paxton has written that:
“Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.”[6]
August 19th, 2007 at 11:58 pm\
this sound more like liberalism
#98: “Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.â€[6]
this sound more like liberalism
That’s because you are semi-literate, and have no idea what liberalism is. And because you apparently have paid no attention to the behavior of the Republican Party for the past ten years.
August 20th, 2007 at 12:07 amComment by tony — August 19, 2007 @ 11:58 pm
No, this is definitely the Republican Party of today. Sorry, tony, but you seem to have your terms confused.
August 20th, 2007 at 12:20 am#100: 1. a sense of overwhelming crisis beyond reach of traditional solutions
Yep. “Terrorism is something we’ve never seen before; therefore, we cannot work within existing laws limiting the government’s ability to wiretap American citizens!”
2. belief one’s group is the victim, justifying any action without legal or moral limits
Yep. See Karl Rove’s comment above: “They’re after me!”
3. need for authority by a natural leader above the law, relying on the superiority of his instincts
See the right’s blind trust in their benevolent Supreme Leader, George W. Bush, who needs to be above the law in order to protect the American people.
4. right of the chosen people to dominate others without legal or moral restraint
This explains the right’s apparent willingness to commit election fraud in order to maintain power. They’ve been ordained by God, they believe, and therefore any abuse of power is justifiable.
5. fear of foreign `contamination.â€
Hence the right’s extreme fears about immigration, and its refusal to even talk with anyone perceived as “the enemy.”
Pretty dead-on, if you ask me.
August 20th, 2007 at 1:19 amtony @ 100,
Sounds more like anti-choice clinic bombers to me.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:24 amSorry, that would be Tony@98. I gave him 2 points more credit than he merits. Emphasis on “redemptive violence.”
August 20th, 2007 at 2:28 amSo quick to defend the President. So quick to throw dirt in the eyes of the American people.
We the people…
~Sean
August 20th, 2007 at 8:46 amRecognize a president’s character by the choice of his friends. Rove is Bush’s friend. You don’t have to say more.
August 20th, 2007 at 8:52 amNice try?? We have some of the greatest minds and greatest thinkers trying to take down this dictatorship and we can’t get around their grade school defenses.
Nice try. Make me. I don’t remember.
August 20th, 2007 at 1:07 pmMaybe Grendel.
August 20th, 2007 at 1:09 pmNah, more like the witch in Hansel and Gretel.
#109
August 20th, 2007 at 3:54 pmYou forgot, “I know you are, but what am I.”