Arianna connects the dots.
By on Aug 20th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
Arianna connects the dots.
Karl Rove’s unprecedented use of federal assets for political gain meant relaxing federal regulations on big GOP supporters. Arianna Huffington writes that the fallout is predictable; in some cases, the public safety has suffered. “Coal mining interests have donated more than $12 million to federal candidates since the Bush-era began with the 2000 election cycle, with 88% of that money — $10.6 million — going to Republicans. And what did that largess buy the coal mining industry? Mine safety regulators far more interested in looking out for the financial well-being of mine owners than for the physical well-being of miners.”
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August 20th, 2007 at 7:08 pmMine safety regulators far more interested in looking out for the financial well-being of mine owners than for the physical well-being of miners.â€
Heaven forbid the actual workers should be protected.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:09 pmWell, duh!!!
August 20th, 2007 at 7:10 pmThis became apparent after the last mining disaster in Sago, West Virginia.
How many more times does this situation have to repeat itself before there’s some accountability?
August 20th, 2007 at 7:10 pmMine safety regulators far more interested in looking out for the financial well-being of mine owners than for the physical well-being of miners.â€
Heaven forbid the actual workers should be protected.
Comment by Zooey — August 20, 2007 @ 7:09 pm
Republicans could care less about the physical well-being of miners and minors.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:11 pmShe just made some asinine statements after the fact. Anyone can do that.
Comment by Makarios — August 20, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
As you have just proven.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:13 pmI’m surprised that it took you Lefties so long to figure out a way to blame Bush for the recent coal mine colapse.
Your getting off the ball.
Maybe this website can help: http://blamebush.typepad.com/
August 20th, 2007 at 7:16 pmShe just made some asinine statements after the fact. Anyone can do that.
Comment by Makarios — August 20, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
Be specific! Which statements? Prove anyone can do it. After which specific fact? List all the asinine statements and respond to each.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:16 pmIt’s very simple: you simply cannot count on corporations to “do the right thing.” Impossible. Corporations MUST be regulated. Capitalism MUST be regulated. Every time we allow corporate capitalism to operate in a non-regulated environment, it destroys itself and screws up society.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:19 pmRepublicans could care less about the physical well-being of miners and minors.
Comment by Egreggious — August 20, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
Maybe they’ll pass an unfunded mandate, or toothless miner safety bill. That’ll make it ok.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:19 pm/sarc
Be specific! Which statements? Prove anyone can do it. After which specific fact? List all the asinine statements and respond to each.
Comment by Joefriday — August 20, 2007 @ 7:16 pm
Wow, Joe. Did you get hold of some of the same tainted Kool-Aid michael’s been drinking? :-)
August 20th, 2007 at 7:19 pmMaybe they’ll pass an unfunded mandate, or toothless miner safety bill. That’ll make it ok.
/sarc
Comment by Zooey — August 20, 2007 @ 7:19 pm
Most of us don’t need the /sarc from you if it is you. Did you really give your name to a troll and did you take it back? I feel like I am at a comedy club and the guy/girl says “this is going to be a joke”.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:22 pmComment by Joefriday — August 20, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
A troll took my name, and I took it back.
Back off, Joe.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:24 pmI’m surprised that it took you Lefties so long to figure out a way to blame Bush for the recent coal mine colapse.
Your getting off the ball.
Comment by Ringo — August 20, 2007 @ 7:16 pm
We were blaming Bush before this TP post.
Bush has done a heckuva job setting himself up to be blamed for every disaster that occurs.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:24 pmWow, Joe. Did you get hold of some of the same tainted Kool-Aid michael’s been drinking? :-)
Comment by Egreggious — August 20, 2007 @ 7:19 pm
August 20th, 2007 at 7:25 pmSee #16. How obvious does a person have to be that it is a “/sarc” post without saying it?
Ringo: “I’m surprised that it took you Lefties so long to figure out a way to blame Bush for the recent coal mine colapse.”
Unsafe worker conditions don’t just happen magically any more than large fish dieoffs. The largest salmon dieoff in the history of the west happened as a result of a political policy by Rove in 2002. The lack of safety in the mining industry is also the result of political policy. Poison in our food is the result of policy.
But, look, we know what’s most important to the average Bush cultist – the overwhelming urge to make sure nobody lays any blame at the cultleader’s feet even though he IS the leader. That’s fine, but stop trying to compare him to Harry Truman, OK?
August 20th, 2007 at 7:26 pmBack off, Joe.
Comment by Zooey — August 20, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
I am on your side-back off from what?
August 20th, 2007 at 7:26 pmWhat we need right now is for the families of the miners to sue not only the owner of the mine but also the creep that was supposed to be regulating the mines (you know, the guy who had numerous violations in his mines before he was appointed by Bush).
I’m quite sure that those families would have a lot of support.
I am hoping that I will live long enough to see us go from the United Corporations of America back to the good old United States of America.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:28 pmI am on your side-back off from what?
Comment by Joefriday — August 20, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
I know you’re on our side. You seemed rather aggressive in your comment. Maybe I mis-read it.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:29 pmArianna has only further proven that she will say anything to slander Republicans.
The Democrat Smear Machine will not win when this is over.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:34 pmThe Democrat Smear Machine will not win when this is over.
Comment by Mommy, Why Do They Hate Us? — August 20, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
It’s not about winning, dipshit, it’s about putting this country right again — regulating the corporations to make sure they protect their workers, etc.
You wouldn’t understand.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:36 pmMommy, Why Do They Hate Us? sez:
*Yawn*…
August 20th, 2007 at 7:36 pmTroll w/mommy issues: “The Democrat Smear Machine will not win when this is over.”
Let’s review: Republicans are the ones who DON’T want regulations and rules for worker safety. Democrats are the ones who DO want regulations and rules for worker safety. Get it? No smearing involved. Just facts. Unregulated corporate capitalism vs. regulated corporate capitalism.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:40 pmWe were blaming Bush before this TP post.
Comment by Egreggious
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Of course you were….I’m sorry.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:40 pm#25 – I believe in the right to choose on economic matters. Get the govt out of business and my wallet.
#26 – that YAWN will be heard when Democrats nominate Hillary and she tries to play victim to the American people. If Arianna can attack Republicans, you better bet we’ll destroy Hillary.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:41 pm#
Arianna has only further proven that she will say anything to slander Republicans.
The Democrat Smear Machine will not win when this is over.
Comment by Mommy, Why Do They Hate Us? — August 20, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
Validation, or it’s just nonsense.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:41 pmHow many more accidents due to poor management and/or cost-cutting in order to give tax cuts to the rich and to sustain this hopeless war in Iraq?
August 20th, 2007 at 7:41 pmAre the American people awakening yet? Have enough people died in Katrina, in mines, in broken bridges yet? Have enough children been left behind? Have enough poor, sick, and old suffered yet?
#27 – I believe in the right to choose on economic matters. Get the govt out of business.
AND Arianna is smearing Karl Rove. We will smear Hillary since you’re saying it’s fair game.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:42 pm#31 – people died in Katrina because they didn’t listen to the feds and their Democrat leaders (Blank-O and Nagin) HATE black people.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:43 pmI wonder if TP poster TheTruth has figred out a way to blame the Jooooooos for the coal mine accident?
August 20th, 2007 at 7:44 pm#25 – I believe in the right to choose on economic matters. Get the govt out of business and my wallet.
Comment by Mommy, Why Do They Hate Us? — August 20, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
The right to choose what? You want the right to choose such shoddy bridge maintenance that it falls down during rush hour? Or the right to use mining practices that cause the collapse of the mine onto 9 miners? What would you be choosing here?
August 20th, 2007 at 7:44 pm“Arianna has only further proven that she will say anything to slander Republicans.
The Democrat Smear Machine will not win when this is over.
Comment by Mommy, Why Do They Hate Us? “
Oh really, please tell us what Arianna said was slander. I’m sure the people she slandered would love to know so they can sue her. What…everything she said can be proven. Oh well, you lose.
I always love to hear Republican trolls talk about the “democratic smear machine”. If only there was one….and if there was one, they would have learned their tactics from the experts, the Republicans lead by KKKarl rove.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:44 pm#31 – people died in Katrina because they didn’t listen to the feds and their Democrat leaders (Blank-O and Nagin) HATE black people.
Comment by Mommy, Why Do They Hate Us? — August 20, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
Wrong. People died in NO because they had no way out, and then had no one giving a shit afterward. I just love that picture of Georgie looking out his airplane window, trying to look concerned for the brown people.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:45 pm#36 – Democratic smears…
-George W. Bush did coke. NO evidence.
-George W. Bush paid for an abortion. NO evidence.
-CBS’ false attack on Bush’s national guard service
-George W. Bush was behind 9/11. NO evidence
With your standards, in 2008, the GOP will claim that Hillary whacked Vince Foster, her husband raped Juanita Broderick and they were in bed with the Chinese govt to fund their campaigns.
YOU LOSE.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:48 pmRingo, I found the link.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:48 pm“What would you be choosing here?
Comment by Zooey”
It doesn’t matter Zooey because it hasn’t happened to him or anyone he knows. But, if his wife perished when the bridge collapsed, he would be the one yelling the loudest for heads to roll.
Mommy, Why Do They Hate Us?
I can tell you why we hate you. We hate you because you are an uncaring, soulless human being that does not deserve to live on this planet. All you care about is you and yours and to hell with everyone else. I hope some day you get into some kind of a situation where you need the help of the people around you and none of them step up to the plate to help you. It would be your karma…what you deserve.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:48 pmWow, Joe. Did you get hold of some of the same tainted Kool-Aid michael’s been drinking? :-)
Comment by Egreggious — August 20, 2007 @ 7:19 pm
Notice how well it is working?-No more Make-a-roast.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:48 pm“If Arianna can attack Republicans, you better bet we’ll destroy Hillary.
Comment by Mommy, Why Do They Hate Us”
And how do you plan on doing that when you are the minority with no power at all? It’s going to be fun watching you try!
August 20th, 2007 at 7:50 pmIt would be your karma…what you deserve.
Comment by bilbogaggins — August 20, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
Careful bilbo, your wish for him carries karma as well. :)
August 20th, 2007 at 7:51 pmWhen Obama becomes President of the United States no coal mine will ever collapse agian.
GO OBAMA!
/Hows that?
August 20th, 2007 at 7:52 pmArianna “connects the dots”?
“FLASH- (Rangoon 4:50PM)
The GOP is a party of wealth and plutocracy, that doesn’t give a flying f**k about working class America”.
See what I mean? I can connect the dots too.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:53 pmblah, blah, blah, Arianna…blah, blah, blah, slander Republicans…blah, blah, blah, democrat smear…blah, blah, blah, will not win…blah, blah, blah, ad nauseum…
August 20th, 2007 at 7:54 pmNotice how well it is working?-No more Make-a-roast.
Comment by Joefriday — August 20, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
Kudos!
August 20th, 2007 at 7:54 pmWhen Obama becomes President of the United States no coal mine will ever collapse agian.
That’s probably not likely. But it would be nice if after one of these disasters it doesn’t end up that the person responsible for preventing said disaster was a crony of the Pres. It would be nice if the person was put in that position because of experience & skill rather then loyalty. Sh!t will still happen but it’s a huge uplifting experience if the govt does all they do to prevent these things from happening rather then giving their buddies posh jobs that they’re unqualified to do.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:55 pmWhen Obama becomes President of the United States no coal mine will ever collapse agian.
Comment by Ringo — August 20, 2007 @ 7:52 pm
At least if it does happen, we won’t be able to blame it on his negligence.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:55 pm#45 – of course you want me dead. I want you dead, too. Please keep having abortions so Democrats don’t reproduce.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:57 pmRingo: “When Obama becomes President of the United States no coal mine will ever collapse agian.
GO OBAMA!
/Hows that?”
That’s pretty stupid. OK, how about this: in Canada, there are more regulations which are designed to protect miners. For example, there are “safe rooms” in mines. Less miners die in mine disasters in Canada. So, try to follow this – if Obama or someone like him is running the executive branch, they will treat mineworker safety as the important issue it should be and there will be more regulations. This won’t stop mine collapses, but it may save lives.
Did you follow that?
August 20th, 2007 at 7:57 pmPlease keep having abortions so Democrats don’t reproduce.
Comment by Mommy, Why Do They Hate Us? — August 20, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
That is a completely stupid statement.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:58 pmDid you follow that?
Not likely.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:59 pmKudos!
Comment by Egreggious — August 20, 2007 @ 7:54 pm
I had the same effect on M.A eons ago.
August 20th, 2007 at 8:00 pm“When Obama becomes President of the United States no coal mine will ever collapse agian.
Comment by Ringo”
I propose we award Ringo the “straw man of the year” award.
August 20th, 2007 at 8:01 pmI propose we award Ringo the “straw man of the year†award.
“… if he only had a brain….”
August 20th, 2007 at 8:03 pmShe just made some asinine statements after the fact. Anyone can do that.
Comment by Makarios — August 20, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
What is assinine about her statements?
August 20th, 2007 at 8:04 pmPlease keep having abortions so Democrats don’t reproduce.
Comment by Mommy, Why Do They Hate Us? — August 20, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
I think I’ll just stick with the gay sex.
August 20th, 2007 at 8:07 pmI’m surprised that it took you Lefties so long to figure out a way to blame Bush for the recent coal mine colapse.
Your getting off the ball.
Maybe this website can help: http://blamebush.typepad.com/
Comment by Ringo — August 20, 2007 @ 7:16 pm
It didn’t take this long, just for you to access the data. We also blame him for the two dead firefighters in NYC. A building at ground zero that should have been dealt with years ago that didn’t have enough water for the firefighters to put it out. And not getting money to the states to fix bridges, how many dead in MN. You like this less government and politicizing every department. Well we blame you and your ilk for the failing infrastructure and no oversight for worker safety.
August 20th, 2007 at 8:09 pmLogic does not come lightly to the fu*king trolls here.
August 20th, 2007 at 8:11 pmI think I’ll just stick with the gay sex.
Comment by Egreggious — August 20, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
I think you just summoned Daryll. :}
August 20th, 2007 at 8:14 pmIf Arianna can attack Republicans, you better bet we’ll destroy Hillary.
Comment by Mommy, Why Do They Hate Us? — August 20, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
You mean the way you tried to destroy Bill Clinton. You guys made up the game, we’re just playing by your rules. The game being it’s fine to disrespect the President. Of course you guys crucified a guy doing a great job and were just calling em like we see em. If Bush wasn’t so incompetent it wouldn’t be so easy, since we have consciences.
August 20th, 2007 at 8:19 pmHow many more U.S. citizens have to die (or be severely injured) due to corrupt, greedy and anti-American Republican policies?!?!?!
I just finished reading the Star-Tribune article out of Minnesota that indicates that someone in the Republican-controlled Minnesota governor’s office nixed MnDOT plans earlier this year to start repairing (if not outright condemning) the I35W bridge that recently collapsed and killed U.S. citizens. The “cost” of doing either the repairs (or condemning the bridge and replacing it) apparently was the primary factor behind the decision to only do some more inspections of the bridge.
The head of MnDOT, a die-hard Grover Norquist Republican, who is also Lt. Governor, was probably the Republican who put “cost” over the safety of Minnesotans. This Republican with this die-hard “anti-tax” obsession just caused some of her fellow Minnesotans to die hard. Heckuva job. And Gov. Pawlenty is just as responsible. Heckuva, heckuva job Republicans. Too bad these two haven’t been arrested and charged with criminal negligence yet.
August 20th, 2007 at 8:36 pmpeople died in Katrina because they didn’t listen to the feds and their Democrat leaders (Blank-O and Nagin) HATE black people.
Comment by Mommy, Why Do They Hate Us? —
people died in Katrina because they did not drive and or had no funds as it was the end of the month.
The present possible hurricane heading towards Texas has the attention of Bush… Heard he has already made Fed preparations for it. Why did he do nothing with the warning of Katrina? It is on video Bush being counseled about the potential problem of Katrina… nothing done… once again big business benefiting from the devastation of others .
August 20th, 2007 at 8:40 pmIt would be your karma…what you deserve.
Comment by bilbogaggins — August 20, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
Careful bilbo, your wish for him carries karma as well. :)
Comment by Zooey #42
Wishing for JUSTICE…
…that is RIGHTEOUS…
…can only carry good karma…
…are we not pre-disposed (indeed admonished)…
…to hate EVIL?
…to wish for its demise?
August 20th, 2007 at 8:48 pmComment by big papa — August 20, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
I don’t disagree, big papa, but bilbo was not wishing only for justice.
August 20th, 2007 at 8:51 pmThere is no such thing as “EVIL.â€
Comment by Makarios — August 20, 2007 @ 8:57 pm
Why must you always criticize our president?
August 20th, 2007 at 9:02 pmGood evening progressive poster’s…..I am amazed at the child like mean post by these recent ignorant black hearted troll’s..It’s as if they are over medicated or truly insane just like their dictator…Sad realy…..In fact I haven’t seen such immature crap since I was in the 5 grade. and watched jealious children fight over who’s friend was who’s….
After all we have been through with 6+ year’s of misery caused by bush and his miserable buddies by design and neglect, created war’s, stolen treasury and day’s of no response for Katrina victom’s I think these people are truly the lunatick fringe and all need to be jailed…..Don’t argue with them turn them in as evil to some agency, if there is one left that is not corrupt…Complain to TP…Boot them out, shun them, what ever…None of them has a soul and all of them act like the next unabomber…..Blessings
August 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pmThere is no such thing as “EVIL.†But we are predisposed to hate and to wish for the demise of the things we hate.
Comment by Makarios — August 20, 2007 @ 8:57 pm
I’d like to see you prove evil does not exist.
August 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pmlet’s talk about what insurance companies have done to disabled Americans……. please.
August 20th, 2007 at 9:17 pmAs there is light and dark so there is good and evil…Blessings
August 20th, 2007 at 9:19 pmI bet you would. But we all know that those values are nothing but the pathetic judgment of humans.
Comment by Makarios — August 20, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
Now you’re dissing values?
You are going to lose your wingnut base if you keep this up.
August 20th, 2007 at 9:29 pmI bet you would. But we all know that those values are nothing but the pathetic judgment of humans.
Comment by Makarios — August 20, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
Since we are human, and evil is one of our values, it exists.
Would you say love does not exist? Does honor exist?
August 20th, 2007 at 9:33 pmI think the black hearted troll was saying it isn’t human….Made my point for me…Who would of thought…I would….Blessing, progressives.
August 20th, 2007 at 9:34 pmComment by Sharon — August 20, 2007 @ 9:34 pm
That’s why you’re a Great Lady, Sharon. :)
August 20th, 2007 at 9:37 pmbet you would. But we all know that those values are nothing but the pathetic judgment of humans.
Comment by Makarios — August 20, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
You mean… like the judgement just made in the above statement?
August 20th, 2007 at 9:39 pmArianna rules.
August 20th, 2007 at 9:40 pmBack at ya Lady Z…Blessings
August 20th, 2007 at 9:42 pmI hope human history does not judge me to harshly for being such a pawn of corporate militarism.
August 20th, 2007 at 9:47 pmI’m only doing what I’m told, and using other peoples words and ideas, so it’s not like I’m really guilty of anything…
Am I?
You mean… like the judgement just made in the above statement?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 20, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
Pee is a child. He hasn’t had time to witness evil……but he will.
August 20th, 2007 at 9:50 pmPee is a child. He hasn’t had time to witness evil……but he will.
Comment by Zooey — August 20, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
p has had plenty of time. it chooses its path. it’s hoping it will be able to
cash in at a later date. remember, Zooey, it’s all about who you know.
not what one is capable of doing.
August 20th, 2007 at 10:06 pmTo align one self with evil, such as murderer’s lier’s and thieve’s one is guilty of all these thing’s by association…..
A good person would never go along with any of the above even if it ment bringing harm to self…Blessings and Karma are ever present and working…
August 20th, 2007 at 10:06 pmBush’s chosen stooge, Richard Stickler, is partly responsible for the mine collapse in Utah, because he allowed Bob Murray to do “retreat mining” which removes coal support pillars and that caused the mountain above to crush the mining caverns trapping/killing 6 miners. 3 others were killed trying to rescue them.
August 20th, 2007 at 10:17 pmi’m pro-choice youngin.
you’ve made yours.
sleep in it.
August 20th, 2007 at 10:58 pmsleep in it.
Comment by alp3 — August 20, 2007 @ 10:58 pm
He does, alp3, every night…
August 20th, 2007 at 11:05 pmAs long as the Bushits appoint cronies and industry yesmen as overseers of things like mine safety, nothing like what happened to those nine miners should really surprise us.
August 20th, 2007 at 11:07 pmArianna has only further proven that she will say anything to slander Republicans.
The Democrat Smear Machine will not win when this is over.
Comment by Mommy, Why Do They Hate Us? — August 20, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
Why do the cons always use the words “slander” and “smear” like they are supposed to be weapons of some kind?
Let’s focus some of that buckshot a little bit. What did Arianna say that was slanderous? Did she say something untrue? Did she ruin the reputation of anyone with false statements?
And what is this “Democratic Smear Machine”? We actually have one? Did it come with a warranty? Did we get the model with the extra features?
Using words like “slander” and “smear” when you clearly don’t know what either one means is a rather weak rebuttal.
August 20th, 2007 at 11:08 pmI thought the words slander and smear were copyrighted by Madam’s apple Coulter?
August 20th, 2007 at 11:18 pmheh.
you think?
no, i didn’t misunderstand your post.
misunderstood? heh.
you.
August 20th, 2007 at 11:31 pmyou may know, lil buddy.
are you making sense…?
good question, friend. sleep on it.
August 20th, 2007 at 11:49 pmArianna is right. In return for political contributions Rove and Bush relaxed federal regulations. This amounts to a bribe. Coal mining company executives gave most of their contributions to republicans in return Bush has put only mine owners on the federal entity that overlooks mine safety. Instead of protecting worker safety Bush has chosen to line the pockets of the RNC.
August 21st, 2007 at 2:13 amSurprised Arianna is still around. That vampire turned her first husband gay, and is now trolling for new victims, but alas, no takers.
August 21st, 2007 at 11:39 amSo, are you a volunteer troll or are you being paid to spew this nasty, hateful screed?
August 21st, 2007 at 1:01 pmMakarios: “But we all know that those values are nothing but the pathetic judgment of humans.”
Yes, we humans have what we call “values.” Please enlighten us on how you determine right from wrong on your planet.
August 21st, 2007 at 1:37 pm