Petraeus To Testify Before Senate On September 11
Petraeus To Testify Before Senate On September 11
The much-anticipated Senate testimony of Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, regarding the situation on the ground in Iraq has now been scheduled for September 11th. Petraeus’ testimony will accompany a September 15 status report from the White House that is expected to be a key moment in the debate over American involvement in Iraq.
The timing of Petraeus’ testimony was first revealed this morning by Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) in a conference call with conservative bloggers. According to the National Review’s Jim Geraghty, McCain said he had “been told” Petraeus would testify on the 11th:
The calendar I’ve been told is that Petraeus testify 11th. We’re off September 13 and 14 for Rosh Hoshannah. The Senate debate will begin September 18th.
Geraghty’s account of the conference call has been confirmed by other bloggers on the call, including the Weekly Standard’s Michael Goldfarb and the American Spectator’s Jennifer Rubin.
White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe confirmed the testimony date during a press briefing on Air Force One today:
Q And the second one is, there’s been some confusion about the whens, hows, wherefores of the Crocker-Petraeus testimony to Congress. Can you say when they’re going to testify before Congress and under what conditions?
MR. JOHNDROE: Yes. General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker will testify in open hearings on the Hill. Administration officials are reaching out to Hill leadership today to discuss with them the potential dates for that testimony. Given the tight schedule leading up to September 15th and the congressional recess with Rosh Hashanah coming up, the likely dates for testimony are September 11th and 12th.
Q That’s really just because of the tight schedule and not because it’s September 11th?
MR. JOHNDROE: That’s right. Congress is not — as of right now, based on the last we checked, Congress is not in session because of the Rosh Hashanah holiday, very much the week leading up to that Saturday, September 15th.
Petraeus is mandated by Congress to testify about the Iraq status report before the document is delivered on September 15.
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Are they serious?
August 20th, 2007 at 2:22 pmwow. thanks again democrats for allowing the bush admin to play you like a fiddle. you fell right into their trap, now they get to use 9/11 again to bash you into the ground and continue this war.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:22 pmSo now they are trying to invoke sept. 11th again? Will Guilani be there. Give me a break we already know the white house has written the speech.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:23 pmFirst Question:
How much of the BS you are about to report on was authored by the White House?
If the answer is over 10%, kindly dismiss the puppet and request the puppeteer deliver the report.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:23 pmSounds like a good day for it.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:24 pmLeave it to Bush & Co. to politicize yet another important decision on Iraq.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:25 pmWill the briefing cover page be entitled “My Pet Goat”?
August 20th, 2007 at 2:28 pmSTILL trying desperately to connect Iraq with 9/11????
OH the charade…
August 20th, 2007 at 2:28 pmSo basically this will receive no news coverage because the MSM will cover the ceremony, the controversy around the ceremony, W at the ceremony, etc etc
How about a story about how 6 years later we still don’t have OBL, EVERYONE hates us now, and we invaded the wrong country….nah- my money’s on flag waving and Guiliani in a fire helmet
August 20th, 2007 at 2:30 pmLooks like more psyops from the administration still trying to ingrain Iraq and September 11th into the psyche of the American people. They could have moved the release of the Patraeus’ report to the 16th and had his testimony on the 12th. Their scumbaggery has no limits.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:30 pm#6: Funny. Actually, Petraeus was going to title the report “Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States,” but he was afraid Bush & Co. would ignore it . . . AGAIN.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:31 pmheres a prediction :
during the testimony, the MSM will have 2 images on the screen. petraeus testifying on one side, and 9/11 images and ground zero on the other.
most people wont see petraeus testimony, and the media wont report it. Bush will come out the next day (or the day before) and tell the media what to report about petraeus, and they will fall into line and report what Bush tells them to.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:35 pmAbsolutely the best day they could do it. September the 11th, the day NO Iraqis attacked America.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:35 pmthe ghost of TP strikes again…
in my house, we call toilet paper TP.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:36 pmWhat a craven attempt to either cover up anything Petraus has to say, not that it matters since the White House has written his report anyway, But also a continued attempt to tie Iraq in with 9/11. Not a very good move politically though. A ham-handed attempt to manipulate the public. I am sensing a certain desperation on the part of neo-cons.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:36 pmTwo bits of irony of the September 11 date here:
1. tie it to 9-11 — inappropriate since there is no connection
2. deliver it the day before the Rosh Hashanah holiday — appropriate since we are fighting this war for Isreal
August 20th, 2007 at 2:37 pmIf the dems had a spine this could backfire. Imagine the questions: “on this solemn anniversary, why haven’t we captured bin laden,?” or “on this solemn anniversary, why have we wasted so much national treasure in the wrong country?”
August 20th, 2007 at 2:37 pmThat means the WH is already working on a draft to be delivered to Betrayus probably around two weeks from today. He’s got to see it well ahead of time to make sure he gets his testimony straight.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:38 pmHow much did you pay for you wife Ringo?
August 20th, 2007 at 2:38 pmin my house, we call toilet paper TP.
Comment by Saint Pimp
Are you in a duplex, or just a one-holer?
August 20th, 2007 at 2:40 pmLMAO
August 20th, 2007 at 2:41 pmlol, Raven!
Priceless!
August 20th, 2007 at 2:41 pmLooks like the progressive military-haters will be excitedly penciling in Sept. 11 (also the day they celebrate the 911 attacks as “America’s fault”) as the day they will all get together and smear Patreaus as just another puppet in the Bush regime! Progressive traitors have been in the run-up to Petraeus’ testimony already preparing their defamatory arguments they will use to further distrust Petraeus and insult the military’s independent and authoritative review of Iraq’s surge. Progs base this on an LAT forgery last week that the WH will actually write Petraeus’ report, but what they conceal is that a certain House resolution actually mandates the WH to write the report while also including Petraues’ separate report on Iraq. If progs deride Petraeus’ testimony, they’ll admit to not just hating Bush’s war policy, but also the US military’s honest testimony if it claims success.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:41 pmHow much did you pay for you wife Ringo?
Comment by bobwurst — August 20, 2007 @ 2:38 pm
Less than I did, betcha.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:41 pmI KNEW THEY WERE ALL JEWS AT HEART!
August 20th, 2007 at 2:43 pmI find it hard to believe anyone falls for this anymore. But then I haven’t been in the middle of the country in a while, so it’s hard for me to gauge. MMMM…a warm shit sandwich–we give it a patriotic name and you swallow it every time.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:43 pmMuqtada al-Sadr: The British are retreating from Basra in an interview with the independent
The British Army has been defeated in Iraq and left with no option but to retreat from the country, claims radical Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. Violent resistance and a rising death toll among UK troops has forced a withdrawal, he said in an interview with The Independent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/
August 20th, 2007 at 2:43 pmIf progs deride Petraeus’ testimony, they’ll admit to not just hating Bush’s war policy, but also the US military’s honest testimony if it claims success.
Comment by IloveGermanShepards— August 20, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
Really? How so?
August 20th, 2007 at 2:45 pmThe only time you can use “wife” and “how much did you pay” in the same sentence accurately is after your divorce. Up until then, you are still running up the bill.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:45 pmIf the Bushbots can get a General to do a dog and pony show on September 11th before our nation’s congress, reading from a politically contrived script written by White House Republican propagandists, there is nothing these immoral scumbags won’t do to continue the bloody destructive mess they’ve created in Iraq. And IF Patraeus is a willing facilitator of denying and or hiding the truth, he should be tried as a traitor to our nation’s military defense. Any soldier that cares more about his career than his troops should be fragged!
August 20th, 2007 at 2:45 pm#19. But, The White House is writing the report, NOT General Patreaus. Do you have anything relevant to add?
August 20th, 2007 at 2:45 pmFRONT PAGE OF INDEPENDENT TODAY
http://www.independent.co.uk/ multimedia/ archive/ 00253/ frontpage200807_253714a.jpg
Muqtada al-Sadr: The British are retreating from Basra in an interview with the independent
August 20th, 2007 at 2:45 pm19 Wow, somebody’s off the meds. “not just hating Bush’s war policy (losing is a policy now), but also the US military’s honest testimony if it claims success (and if it doesn’t is it still honest policy?)”. Pretzel logic.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:46 pm“already preparing their defamatory arguments they will use to further distrust Petraeus and insult the military’s independent and authoritative review of Iraq’s surge.”
The “military’s independent and authoritative review of Iraq’s surge”, written by the Bush White House.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:46 pmPlease ask him:
“Osama bin Laden is a Saudi, correct?”
And:
“15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were also Saudis?”
And:
“Isn’t it true that only 10% of the people killing Americans in Iraq are non-Iraqis?”
And:
“Isn’t it true that of the foreign fighters killing Americans in Iraq, most are Saudis?”
August 20th, 2007 at 2:46 pmAs for the content of the looming report, anyone who has ever used the Microsoft Excel spreadsheet program knows what’s coming next. Americans should expect to see the old “Fill Right” trick. That is, when producing a long-term financial model or forecast, the Excel user in the absence of research, data, or just common sense, simply copies the value or formula from one cell (for, say, monthly or quarterly sales) to all the succeeding cells (months or quarters in ensuing years). The result is an impressive looking spreadsheet, but one whose projections are baseless and without foundation.
As the interim surge report made clear in July, President Bush like any failed CEO has been relying on the old fill-right gimmick since the Iraq war commenced. Starting in 2003, Bush simply selected the cell containing the phrase “We’re Making Progress” and filled right…
For a screen shot and more details, see:
August 20th, 2007 at 2:47 pm“White House to Author ‘Fill Right’ Iraq Report for Petraeus.”
29. Now are you getting the picture?
August 20th, 2007 at 2:48 pmhaha the dems lose again!!!
August 20th, 2007 at 2:49 pmhaha the dems lose again!!!
Comment by Bush destroyed america — August 20, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
Really? How so?
August 20th, 2007 at 2:50 pmWill this be enough time for the White House to give Petraeus his script?
August 20th, 2007 at 2:52 pmthe progressive military-haters will be excitedly penciling in …blah blah blah…
Comment by IloveCNN–not — August 20, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
Yes, absolutely, both of them…
August 20th, 2007 at 2:52 pm34. Everybody loses. All Americans lose, all Iraqis lose, all lovers of truth and democracy lose. Dems pick up several hundred thousand more voters for later. The GOP is very busy hammering its coffin tightly shut with tricks like this.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:52 pmwhen petraeus speaks, the voice that comes out is that of cheney/bush.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:53 pmNext question:
General, state for the record, how many of the 9/11 perpetrators you’ve caught, captured or killed in Iraq.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:53 pmThe only time you can use “wife†and “how much did you pay†in the same sentence accurately is after your divorce. Up until then, you are still running up the bill.
Comment by tom
And kudos to you as well, sir… lol
August 20th, 2007 at 2:55 pmLOL Bush butt wants Betrayus to testify on anniversary date of 9/11/01 terrorist attack. Dubya is still trying to link Iraq to that event.
August 20th, 2007 at 2:59 pmone of my calendars says “PATRIOT DAY” on the 11th…
when did that happen? … let me guess…
August 20th, 2007 at 3:01 pm…
Yes, absolutely, both of them…
So that would be you and….who?
August 20th, 2007 at 3:01 pmSo that would be you and….who?
Comment by MyTeenieBrain — August 20, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
Really? How so?
August 20th, 2007 at 3:04 pmWill this be enough time for the White House to give Petraeus his script?
Well like Reid said, “Listen to the generals”.
Bush must have tricked Reid again and made him vote for Petraeus.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:04 pmAs for the content of the looming report, anyone who has ever used the Microsoft Excel spreadsheet program
All I have is an old Atari 1000 hooked up to a B&W tv…will Excel work on that?
August 20th, 2007 at 3:07 pmSo why are you in here eating it up?
August 20th, 2007 at 3:07 pmthis will make it all the easier to evoke 9.11… I am rolling my eyes already in anticipation…
August 20th, 2007 at 3:07 pmNext question:
General, how are we to believe anything you tell us?
August 20th, 2007 at 3:09 pmAll official statements at the beginning of this conflict were that a duration of months, definitely not years was required.
Now you’re talking about maybe ten to fifteen years.
How do we know that ten to fifteen years isn’t twenty to fifty, or however long it takes to empty the Iraqi oil fields?
I have to wonder what the right-wing would do if Petraeus showed up, took the stand, and said that Iraq is a miserable failure and we should leave immediately?
August 20th, 2007 at 3:09 pmRouge is so excited the British are losing……he’s sent the info to Al Jazeera as well and plans on celebrating with OBL at a later date. News Flash: The British aren’t going anywhere. Watch for the French to join soon: Link
Kind of a sad day when TP is to the left of all sensibility even the Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys understand. Move to Syria and rid us of your ilk.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:09 pmI am rolling my eyes already in anticipation…
Do you have Walleye vision? (ht: Charlie Sheen)
August 20th, 2007 at 3:09 pmThe only time you can use “wife†and “how much did you pay†in the same sentence accurately is after your divorce. Up until then, you are still running up the bill.
Comment by tom — August 20, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
Hey, you……! Um…..hey….not nice. :}
August 20th, 2007 at 3:09 pmThe only time you can use “wife†and “how much did you pay†in the same sentence accurately is after your divorce. Up until then, you are still running up the bill.
Comment by tom
Even if it’s a mail-order bride?
August 20th, 2007 at 3:10 pmRUanidiot still thinks we are there for the oil. Nice sound bite from the loony left. I suppose we should still be in Kuwait then too? I thought the first Gulf War was all about the oil………be a man and try to let that stupid comment fly on a moderate website.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:12 pmHaving Betrayus speak to Congress on 9/11 about Iraq is like having Bush speak on Labor Day: Neither one has any relevance to the actual day.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:13 pmWe celebrete you commitment to the world’s greatest looser.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:13 pmI have to wonder what the right-wing would do if Petraeus showed up, took the stand, and said that Iraq is a miserable failure and we should leave immediately?
Im sure you were thinking we would swoon, stamp our feet, froth at the mouth, throw ourselves on the floor, run screaming into the streets and generally become hysterical while yelling “CONSPIRACY!” just like liberals are going to do when the report shows positive.
Thing is, we arent liberal; I thank God for that every day of my life.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:14 pmSo do we.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:15 pmThing is, we arent liberal; I thank God for that every day of my life.
Comment by LibTeenie — August 20, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
I thank the flying spaghetti monster that you aren’t liberal, as well.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:15 pmWe celebrete you commitment to the world’s greatest looser.
What is a “looser”?
August 20th, 2007 at 3:16 pm#
Im sure you were thinking we would swoon, stamp our feet, froth at the mouth, throw ourselves on the floor, run screaming into the streets and generally become hysterical while yelling “CONSPIRACY!â€
Comment by LibTeenie — August 20, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
And yet this is what you do everyday on this forum? Perhaps Ralph you should go back to your pathetic website, and rant some more.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:17 pmDammit, folks… can’t one of you make a snide reply to TeenieLibbi so s/he can get into the conversation? Teenie keeps trying and trying to bait someone, but no one will take it and run!
August 20th, 2007 at 3:17 pmUnder oath with a transcript? When caught in lies will Bushco pardon? Sept. 11? I would rather start with a non partial honest investigation of 9/11.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:17 pmI thank the flying spaghetti monster that you aren’t liberal, as well.
Well then, we have reached a positive accord. Who says conservatives and libs cant get along?
August 20th, 2007 at 3:17 pmIt’s an extreme loser.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:18 pmjust like liberals are going to do when the report shows positive.
Thing is, we arent liberal; I thank God for that every day of my life.
Comment by MyLilTeenieWeenie — August 20, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Really? How so?
August 20th, 2007 at 3:18 pmDavid Petraeus and Ryan Crocker will both testify, with ChimpCo making each of them wear a cardboard replica of one of the Twin Towers on their heads. At a particularly dramatic moment in their testimony, each cardboard hat will catch fire and come tumbling down.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:18 pmIt’s an extreme loser.
Ah. Good try though.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:19 pmThat’s RIGHT! You’re CONSERVATIVES!
You believe in small government! Even though…you’ve presided over the largest Federal Government expansion in history!
You believe in freedom of religion….just so long as it’s your religion!
You believe that Bush is somehow a Washington outsider, even though he’s been the President of the United States for six years!
You believe he’s a regular guy even though he’s a multi-millionaire who’s father was President and who’s grandfather was a Senator and Investment Banker in New York.
You believe he was born in Texas, when he was in fact born at Yale.
I think we’ve all had quite enough of having the country managed by your questionable set of beliefs.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:19 pmDammit, folks… can’t one of you make a snide reply to TeenieLibbi so s/he can get into the conversation? Teenie keeps trying and trying to bait someone, but no one will take it and run!
See the post right before yours.
Teee heeeee heeeeee
August 20th, 2007 at 3:20 pmWe want you to get along (you little dogie).
August 20th, 2007 at 3:21 pmDumb fu*king trolls always like to say that Bush is the commander-in-chief of the military, except for when it is convenient for them to want the military to have an “independent voice.”
Fu*king idiots have no idea how any of this works and speak straight from their a$$es.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:21 pmI thank the flying spaghetti monster that you aren’t liberal, as well.
Comment by Zooey — August 20, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
Whoa, you’ve seen the flying spaghetti monster too? Damn… I guess I wasn’t that drunk after all.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:21 pmReally? How so?
Thanks, DRxJ
August 20th, 2007 at 3:22 pmRoves last “gotcha”
August 20th, 2007 at 3:22 pmWhoa, you’ve seen the flying spaghetti monster too? Damn… I guess I wasn’t that drunk after all.
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 20, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Nope your were probably drunk, it is the easiest way to see the FSM.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:23 pmThe ostensible “Patreaus Report” is sure to change the reality on the ground.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:24 pmYou believe he’s a regular guy even though he’s a multi-millionaire who’s father was President and who’s grandfather was a Senator and Investment Banker in New York.
Don’t forget - Granddad also had his business assets confiscated for doing business w/ them durn Nazis in WW II!!! Funny how Li’l Georgie never talks about that part of the family history.
Comment by broadsword — August 20, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
August 20th, 2007 at 3:25 pmAt a particularly dramatic moment in their testimony, each cardboard hat will catch fire and come tumbling down.
Comment by UpFromTheSkies — August 20, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
Now THAT would be worth the price of admission!
August 20th, 2007 at 3:27 pmWho says conservatives and libs cant get along?
Comment by LibTeenie — August 20, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
Conservatives.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:27 pmWhoa, you’ve seen the flying spaghetti monster too? Damn… I guess I wasn’t that drunk after all.
Comment by Empire Burlesque — August 20, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Who said I was sober!? :-D
August 20th, 2007 at 3:28 pmThe ultimate fraudulent aspect of GWB is is use of a Texas drawl for the past 6 years. How goddamn embarassed his family must be. He doesn’t even do it well. And the wingnuts think he’ a down-to-earth fellow. What self-deluded fools they be.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:28 pmPadilla Case Seen as a Tainted Victory for Bush
Bush just won , he can now keep even Americans locked up for years whether innocent or guilty
August 20th, 2007 at 3:31 pmWhat is a “looser�
Comment by LibTeenie — August 20, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
A “looser” is someone who incorrectly puts a punctuation mark outside the quotation marks….
August 20th, 2007 at 3:31 pmNext question:
When do you plan on personally visiting each and every gravesite of the men and women who were killed in Iraq on your shift?
August 20th, 2007 at 3:36 pmNext question: Can you point to an historical example of a victory being achieved using any strategy similar that we’ve used in Iraq?
August 20th, 2007 at 3:39 pmNext question:
August 20th, 2007 at 3:42 pmCan you provide any evidence that this occuption does not exactly resemble an imperial expansion?
‘Nother question…
“Can you provide any evidence you’re not lying through your teeth?”
August 20th, 2007 at 3:44 pmNext question:
Can you provide any evidence that this occuption does not exactly resemble an imperial expansion?
Comment by RUCerious — August 20, 2007 @ 3:42 pm
It isn’t a coincidence that both Japan and Germany were looking for oil and raw materials when they started WWII. So teh term Imperilist applies to the US too, much to my shame.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:47 pmNext question:
August 20th, 2007 at 3:47 pmWould you be willing to wager your pension that within six months, every postulation of the report you ostensibly authored will be thoroughly debunked, and that it will be proven that you have been used as a political shill?
next question……
“Does this report contain the number of guns for hire that have flourished and are almost as large as our forces?
and…is it fair to the american people that the number of total forces in Iraq is obscured by the addition of over 100,000 hired guns? That, in fact, the total number of US forces (either thru our military or the hired guns) is closer to the 300,000 that was originally asked for. Isn’t time you come clean with the american people?
August 20th, 2007 at 3:49 pmWhy am I being censored?
August 20th, 2007 at 3:49 pmJust another way for them to link Iraq with 9/11.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:50 pmThe secular, US Congress takes a 2-day recess for the Jewish holiday of Rosh Hoshannah? Oy!
The theocracy-weary, founding fathers are turning over in their graves - a tiny, faith-based theocracy in Palestine has such disproportianate influence over the American government, that Jewish holdays are now considered American Congressional holidays. Anyone who would dare to question this arrangement must be a terrorist-lovin’, antisemite. Right?
No, the Israelis do not take an Easter or Christmas recess to show solidarity with their Christian American benefactors - why not? Could it be that Americans love Israel much, much more than Israelis love America?
Congressman John Boehner has claimed that if the US pulls out of Iraq now, it will be the end of Istrael “as we know it”. The logical conclusion: This lethal and costly US war in Iraq should be considered military aid to the Jewish State, as that ill-conceived, mis-adventure in Mesopotamia is being waged specifically for Israel’s direct benefit.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:51 pm“General Betraeus, please tell us how successful this administration wants us to believe the surge is.” Categorize under Cart Leads Horse.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:53 pm“Can you provide any evidence you’re not lying through your teeth?â€
Comment by Raven”
I like that one. He can’t do that any more than I can prove that I have been spied on by my government.
August 20th, 2007 at 3:54 pmFANTASTIC!
…the Bushite demons can remind the WORLD…
…how AMERICA…
…is the ONLY country on EARTH…
…that has ever been attacked so savagely…
…and whose innocence and benevolence makes it the ONLY nation…
…that has license to GRIEVE…
…for the loss of so many VALUABLE Americans lost on Sept. 11th…
…ONLY America has experienced such pain and tragedy…
…and is therefore justified…
…for BLINDLY, and MURDEROUSLY striking out at…
…a sovereign nation…
…not even responsible for America’s pain…
…while the true culprits at the House of Saud and corporate America’s feeding trough…
…continue to profiteer from the misery and murder in Iraq…
…go ahead BETRAEUS…
…shoot your best shot…
…China, Russia, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, and India…
…can’t wait to see what “lies” (pun intended) ahead…
August 20th, 2007 at 4:00 pmwell written big papa.
August 20th, 2007 at 4:02 pmIf I find out you guys paid less than $20 for Ringo’s wife, I am going to be pissed. Although, I admit that $20 seems like a lot in retrorpect. That also answers the “looser” question.
Methinks there has been some noodly appendage action at Ringo’s house. Maybe Ringo is the FSM?
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh
August 20th, 2007 at 4:05 pmGo ahead, Google retrorpect.
August 20th, 2007 at 4:07 pmComment by big papa
*clapping*
August 20th, 2007 at 4:09 pmWhat lawyer in a civil trial would take the testimony first then followed by a written deposition ??????
There’s a reason for that !
August 20th, 2007 at 4:17 pmOnly a stupid one, MapleStreet.
If nothing else, they have to call Petraeus back to testify after report. Seems silly to do it that way….but the WH manipulates EVERYTHING.
August 20th, 2007 at 4:21 pmThing is, we arent liberal; I thank God for that every day of my life.
Comment by LibTeenie — August 20, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
At last, something we can agree on.
August 20th, 2007 at 4:22 pmWhat is a “looser�
Comment by LibTeenie — August 20, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
It’s somebody like you whose brain is looser in his skull than it’s supposed to be.
August 20th, 2007 at 4:24 pmResponse to #91, Makarios, who asked “Why do we love Israel so?”
Simply put, it is collective guilt for America’s complicity in the Holocaust. FDR could have bombed the rail links to the death camps, he did not. And when the emaciated Holocaust survivors sought refuge in post-war America, they found the the Statue of Liberty’s promise was as empty as the statue itself.
Rather than invite millions of unwanted Jews to America, Truman opted to recognize, arm and bankroll the Jewish State in Palestine. Remember, Jews and “negroes” were personae non gratae in the USA at the time.
Israel is rated as a close ally of the USA, yet no Israeli troops have ever served in any war that the USA has fought in. Why not?
Israel did attack the USS Liberty in June, 1967, a deliberate attack that lasted for several hours - thirty-four US sailors were murdered, 173 wounded. Congress anf LBJ tried to cover it all up.
Israel enjoys US representation without US taxation, the US does not have a reciprocal relationship with the Israeli Knesset.
American evangelicals, the GOP’s base, love Israel because they believe that the State of Israel is prophecied in Holy Scripture and that it signals the beginning of the “end times”. Besides, Israel makes a convenient dumping grounds for the Diaspora, few Christians would prefer that the Diaspora settle in the USA, as their next-door neighbors. It’s the old, “Jews, go home!” phenomenon that Zionism’s founder, T. Herzl, recognized and counted upon.
Many closet antisemites support the state of Israel because they do not want the Jewish Diaspora to settle here in America. Some bigots support Israel becuase the Jewsish State is a huge concentration of Jews and thus they can be more easily annihilated in the future.
The military/industrial complex loves Israel because it is a reliable end-user of US military hardware - government subsidized and always in need of more weaponry.
Nobody dares to question the lop-sided US/Israeli nexus out of fear of being branded an antisemite.
August 20th, 2007 at 4:26 pmI wonder if Betrayus and Crocker are worrying about getting Tillmaned, if they say the wrong thing? I sure don’t envy them…. at all!
August 20th, 2007 at 4:40 pmThis a feeble attempt by the White House to tie in the surge to 9-11. Doing so will not generate the support of the American people. Iraq has nothing to do with al Qaeda, bin Laden and the attacks on the World Trade Center.
August 20th, 2007 at 5:53 pmBush had to back off his demand that Petraeus and Crocker testify in a closed hearing considering Petraeus will testify in an open hearing.
August 20th, 2007 at 5:55 pmSchlozman is actually a great American despite the mudslinging by TMPMuckracker and the defecation that passes as knowledge on the threads of TP. Schlozman is being ruthlessly demeaned as someone who “suppressed” minority voting rights, but this a
August 20th, 2007 at 6:30 pmSimply put, it is collective guilt for America’s complicity in the Holocaust. FDR could have bombed the rail links to the death camps, he did not. And when the emaciated Holocaust survivors sought refuge in post-war America, they found the the Statue of Liberty’s promise was as empty as the statue itself.
Rather than invite millions of unwanted Jews to America, Truman opted to recognize, arm and bankroll the Jewish State in Palestine. Remember, Jews and “negroes†were personae non gratae in the USA at the time.
Israel is rated as a close ally of the USA, yet no Israeli troops have ever served in any war that the USA has fought in. Why not?
Israel did attack the USS Liberty in June, 1967, a deliberate attack that lasted for several hours - thirty-four US sailors were murdered, 173 wounded. Congress anf LBJ tried to cover it all up.
Israel enjoys US representation without US taxation, the US does not have a reciprocal relationship with the Israeli Knesset.
American evangelicals, the GOP’s base, love Israel because they believe that the State of Israel is prophecied in Holy Scripture and that it signals the beginning of the “end timesâ€. Besides, Israel makes a convenient dumping grounds for the Diaspora, few Christians would prefer that the Diaspora settle in the USA, as their next-door neighbors. It’s the old, “Jews, go home!†phenomenon that Zionism’s founder, T. Herzl, recognized and counted upon.
Many closet antisemites support the state of Israel because they do not want the Jewish Diaspora to settle here in America. Some bigots support Israel becuase the Jewsish State is a huge concentration of Jews and thus they can be more easily annihilated in the future.
The military/industrial complex loves Israel because it is a reliable end-user of US military hardw
August 20th, 2007 at 6:33 pmSchlozman is actually a great American despite the mudslinging by TMPMuckracker and the defecation that passes as knowledge on the threads of TP. Schlozman is being ruthlessly demeaned as someone who “suppressed” minority voting rights, but this accusation is only in the context of the libtards’ and the progressives’ slippery conception of what voting rights of minorities are.
August 20th, 2007 at 6:34 pmSchlozman is actually a great American despite the mudslinging by TMPMuckracker and the defecation that passes as knowledge on the threads of TP. Schlozman is being ruthlessly demeaned as someone who “suppressed” minority voting rights, but this accusation is only in the context of the libtards’ and the progressives’ slippery conception of what voting rights of minorities are. Schlozman is a great American because he sought to actively require
August 20th, 2007 at 6:38 pm…but this accusation is only in the context of the libtards’ and the progressives’ slippery conception of what voting rights of minorities are.
Comment by asdf — August 20, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
Please set us straight. What, if any, are the voting rights of minorities?
August 20th, 2007 at 6:38 pmSchlozman is actually a great American despite the mudslinging by TMPMuckracker and the defecation that passes as knowledge on the threads of TP. Schlozman is being ruthlessly demeaned as someone who “suppressed” minority voting rights, but this accusation is only in the context of the libtards’ and the progressives’ slippery conception of what voting rights of minorities are. Schlozman is a great American because he sought to actively require all blacks
August 20th, 2007 at 6:39 pmSchlozman is actually a great American despite the mudslinging by TMPMuckracker and the defecation that passes as knowledge on the threads of TP. Schlozman is being ruthlessly demeaned as someone who “suppressed” minority voting rights, but this accusation is only in the context of the libtards’ and the progressives’ slippery conception of what voting rights of minorities are. Schlozman is a great American because he sought to actively require all blacks to show IDs
August 20th, 2007 at 6:42 pmSchlozman is actually a great American despite the mudslinging by TMPMuckracker and the defecation that passes as knowledge on the threads of TP. Schlozman is being ruthlessly demeaned as someone who “suppressed” minority voting rights, but this accusation is only in the context of the libtards’ and the progressives’ slippery conception of what voting rights of minorities are. Schlozman is a great American because he sought to actively require all blacks to show IDs at polling
August 20th, 2007 at 6:44 pmSchlozman is actually a great American despite the mudslinging by TMPMuckracker and the defecation that passes as knowledge on the threads of TP. Schlozman is being ruthlessly demeaned as someone who “suppressed” minority voting rights, but this accusation is only in the context of the libtards’ and the progressives’ slippery conception of what voting rights of minorities are. Schlozman is a great American because he sought to actively require all blacks to show IDs at polling before they vote; this makes Schlozman a great patriot and someone who cherishes the privilege and integrity of voting
August 20th, 2007 at 6:48 pmPoster 119, BushrulesoverLevin, did a cut/paste on my quote, without comments of his/her own. Hard to say if he/she agrees with me or not… I’m flattered by the attention, and I hope that my comments will, in some small way, cause influential Americans to re-evaluate the problematic US/Israeli relationship.
What’s good for the Jewish State is not always good for the USA. It’s time for American voters to grasp that fundamental truth.
August 20th, 2007 at 6:56 pmWill Patreus betray us or will he pull a MacAruthur on Bush’s politics of war? Would’t it be wonderful if a man in uniform shoved Bush’s lying rhetoric up his AWOL, draft-dodging, cheer-leading ass?
August 20th, 2007 at 7:01 pmLOL Bush butt wants Betrayus to testify on anniversary date of 9/11/01 terrorist attack. Dubya is still trying to link Iraq to that event.
Comment by Jay Randal — August 20, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
and i’ll bet we’ll hear the usual catch-cries - “surge is working” and “we’re making progress”, and “the world has changed since 9/11″…..what an insult that they should have even the gall to whore the events of 6 years ago to try and stir up support and paint themselves red,white and blue on behalf of the bewildered citizens of america…..mind you,could be that most of us see an announcement of one security failure on the anniversary of another
August 20th, 2007 at 8:25 pmTHEY CAPTURED OSAMA!!!!!
***IN IRAQ***
August 20th, 2007 at 8:44 pmSchlossman is a spineless twerp; did you miss his Congressional testimony, or are you just stupid?
Oh, right; you’re stupid. Noted how you’re interested in just blacks identifying themselves at the polls, not *everybody* having to do it.
August 20th, 2007 at 9:04 pmWhy am I being censored?
Comment by Eric — August 20, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
me too - what’s going on TP? - why has my post disappeared?
August 20th, 2007 at 9:40 pmThe White House Report on Iraq, which will be read to Congress by Gen. BetrayUs on Sept 11th:
“9/11, 9/11…terrorism…9/11… The Surge is succeeding. 9/11, 9/11. But we need more time, more money, and more troops. 9/11… terrorism… 9/11…9/11… Bush says everything is going fine. 9/11.”
August 20th, 2007 at 9:47 pmI agree with the drift of this conversation, that it will be a call for patience and continuation of the surge: that was as predictable as sunrise. They are playing for time, since there is no intention of the troops leaving Iraq any year soon.
The Democrats have really bought the Bush policy of an endless stay, with a puppet Iraqi Government, like South Korea, which will never ask us to leave and from which the U.S will “rule” the middle east. They are merely talking trash otherwise to bash republicans politically.
If the Democrats were serious about the U.S. not staying forever, they would stop spending billions on the largest embassy in the world in Baghdad (under construction now to headquarter the U.S. middle east policy). Instead, construction continues.
When it comes to world domination , the Democrats now wear Republican combat boots.
August 20th, 2007 at 11:27 pm#61. RUanidiot still thinks we are there for the oil. Nice sound bite from the loony left. I suppose we should still be in Kuwait then too? I thought the first Gulf War was all about the oil………be a man and try to let that stupid comment fly on a moderate website.
Comment by Partisanship is Dead - Eric
response:
one of the political benchmarks outlined by the WH was an OIL REVENUE BILL; and the WH supports privatization of much of the oil production.
Each of the warring factions of Iraqis are fighting for their own variegated reasons - but one of those reasons is universal for all of the parties - the Oil wealth. how could they not be fighting for that wealth? that’s where the vast majority of the country’s revenue is generated. If you counted the gross value of all natural resources in Iraq, you’d find oil making up a majority of that wealth, with water in a distant second.
so we are there, directly or indirectly, over oil. not solely for our own oil greed, but also to keep other people from fighting over same; and, if the WH is to be believed, to equitably distribute the revenue among Iraqis and privatize its production/distribution for the sake of free trade and supplying the world markets…
and we aren’t in kuwait any more b/c they are our friends and the 1st gulf war was handled much better.
i’m sure people who are left of me (i’m a moderate with liberal more than conservative leanings - was raised by catholic conservs) will point out that it’s American oil corps that will be getting the oil lucrative contracts, and American corporations who are getting all sorts of other lucrative contracts for reconstruction &c.
anyway, RUanidiot is smart enough to know that money pays for wars, and oil is money. i guess that you still think we are there for WMD and to stop 9/11 terrorists. or is it that we’re just there to fix what Bush broke? or temporarily keep it from getting much much worse?
it occurs to me that you probably would not be able to offer any reason for our being there that would reflect well upon our current administration; the best you can do is show that the administration sticks to a cause and pays for its mistakes; but the magnitude of the mistakes that have been made will pale any praises you can sing.
August 21st, 2007 at 5:14 amhaha nice one raven
August 21st, 2007 at 11:15 amI posted some time ago that September 11th would be the day Gen. Petraeous would report to Congress. That was, however, a pretty safe prediction given Bush’s constant harping that Iraq was linked to 9/11.
August 21st, 2007 at 1:00 pmAll you people are nuts. There is always a phantom hiding under a rock with you guys. All of our politicians are also nuts, both sides. In my 60 years I have learned never to trust any of them. They all have personal motives, and if you think that anyone in the Democratic Party or the Republican Party or any other Party for that matter care about anything but their own personal ambition you are living a dream.
August 21st, 2007 at 1:54 pmSince our nominally Christian leaders believes they should recognize the Holiday, I would suggest we all request they truly honor the spirit and intent of it.
I believe we should urge the members of Congress and this administration, in the spirit of ecumenical brotherhood, to participate in Asseret Yemei Teshuva - The Ten Days of Repentance, starting at sunset on September 12. Ten days of self examination and repentance, in preparation for atonement for sins against G*d and their fellow man on Yom Kippur.
So George , when you give your report on the 15th, remember that some of us believe this is the time of year that God reviews and judges our actions. Based on your last few years…make that last few decades….you better hope we are wrong.
August 21st, 2007 at 11:07 pmcensorship is here my friends…. try using any of the following words in a blog, google, yahoo or youtube post…
…R>n P>ul
…d K>ccinth
… J>bb B>sh should be arrested
… L S>lverstein was due to spend a billion on asbestos removal before 911
… jumbo-jet crashes at C>mp D>vid on 9>1
… C>emtrail… Sen K>y H>tchison> Bill S-517
… imp>ach Rock/feller from the F.M.R
this is just the beginning I think… let’s not elect these bumbling F>ee m>sons back before they do away with elections as planned by Pres>ott B>sh when he financed the N>zis
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:49 pm