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Study: Right-wing radio killed immigration bill.

A study by the Project for Excellence in Journalism finds that right-wing radio hosts helped kill comprehensive immigration reform by repeatedly referring to it as an “amnesty bill.” “If media attention translates into political pressure, the argument that talk radio helped kill the immigration bill in Congress has some support in the data,” the study says. “Thanks to energetic opposition from Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Michael Savage, immigration was the biggest topic, at 16%, on conservative talk radio in the second quarter.”



137 Responses to “Study: Right-wing radio killed immigration bill.”

  1. Marcus Aurelius says:

    This is also statistically representative of a high percentage of gullible morons in our society.


  2. JPark says:

    I think this story is BS. I didn’t support this idiotic bill and I refuse to listen to right wing radio. Nobody liked that piece of crap.


  3. Matt says:

    The vehement opposition of talk radio to this friendly-to-business immigration partly refutes the argument that talk radio is just an adjunct of corporate Republicanism.


  4. dlet says:

    The bill was bad. That’s why it died.


  5. JPark says:

    Not really Matt. Huge corporations move their factories to other countries. They don’t need immigrants, they use foreign labor.


  6. Egreggious says:

    The vehement opposition of talk radio to this friendly-to-business immigration partly refutes the argument that talk radio is just an adjunct of corporate Republicanism.

    Comment by Matt — August 20, 2007 @ 10:15 pm

    I don’t get it. Corporate America won by the defeat of this bill.


  7. JPark says:

    Eggy, with all due respect, everybody won by shooting this ridiculous piece of garbage down.


  8. Egreggious says:

    Eggy, with all due respect, everybody won by shooting this ridiculous piece of garbage down.

    Comment by JPark — August 20, 2007 @ 10:23 pm

    Absolutely.


  9. LimbaughHannitySavageareTrueAmericans says:

    Duh! TP proves how far behind the curve progtards are by only coming to this realization now! Obviously it was talk-radio–only portion of the media not controlled by anti-American lib-vermin–that heroically killed the SHAMNESTY bill being hawked by leading Demoncrats like Reid/Pelosi and Bush (in one of his only mistakes as prez). However, clarification is in order because it wasn’t just the good folks who listen to talk radio who killed the bill: it was actually a broad movement of Americans across the political spectrum who rejected the bill. This bill was so full of amnesty that only progtarded/libtarded traitors could defend it. The bill would’ve let illegals stay and continue to send remittances back home; do nothing to meaningfully tighten border security; not penalize illegals for their violations; and even encourage more of those scum to come in via the guest worker program. Kudos to conservatives like Savage, Hannity and Limbaugh for killing this bill.


  10. JPark says:

  11. Mycelium says:

    #5

    Not always true JPark

    Check out the beef industry and construction. Look who pushed for this thing…BushCo! Do you think this wasn’t written in favor of big business? C’mon…this long time lurker knows you better than that.


  12. JPark says:

    Can we here some more pointless hyperbole LHSTA?


  13. JPark says:

    Mycellium. I am talking BIG business. The ones that Bush administration really care about. There is no doubt that some corps benefit from illegal immigration. I am not too up in arms over that though. I think the outsourcing of American jobs is a whole lot more damaging to us than a few guys slaughtering chickens for Tyson.


  14. Mycelium says:

  15. JPark says:

    Jesus, no, I hadn’t seen that. Where is that daddy state the Rethugs promised us? The one where they were supposed to protect us (rhetorical question, they only protect us from the bogeymen they themselves create).


  16. Jay Randal says:

    It was not just the far-right radio jocks who killed the bogus immigration bill. People on the left like me wanted it stopped, because the Mexican border has to be secured. Mexico must employ its citizenry.


  17. GSD says:

    Attention All Republican-Trolls.

    Cash dispersal will be delayed this week. Please rely on your disability checks for you daily supply of Yoo-Hoos and Little Debbie snacks.

    Please continue on with the pre-digested talking points until further notice.

    -Dick McRoveBush


  18. JPark says:

    The fact is, Jay, it was an Orwellian piece of sh!t that neither the left or the right could live with.


  19. Egreggious says:

    “… immigration was the biggest topic, at 16%, on conservative talk radio in the second quarter.”

    All other topics were too embarrassing to dwell on for very long.


  20. JPark says:

    ‘“… immigration was the biggest topic, at 16%, on conservative talk radio in the second quarter.”

    All other topics were too embarrassing to dwell on for very long.

    Comment by Egreggious’

    Or not racist enough.


  21. Fan-of-Man says:

    amnesty for illegals is a bad thing… glad its dead.


  22. JPark says:

    Why is the right stupid enough to fall for red herrings like immigration? If you are talking border security, that is fine. That is necessary but these guys do nothing about talk about how those dirty Mexicans steal our jobs and how steal our women.


  23. JJ says:

    Study: Right-wing radio killed ….braincells


  24. JPark says:

    Fan-of-Man, so, are they being deported by the millions like you want? Nope. They will get amnesty anyway, without the headlines because only morons think the deportation of 12 million illegals is just a stupid idea (I thought you didn’t like paying taxes? You know how much that would cost?)


  25. JPark says:

    LOL, only morons think it is a good idea, I should say.


  26. Fan-of-Man says:

    deported by the millions?

    got a source to back that up?


  27. TexMex says:

    Aw, the immigration issue was brought up to stop the bleeding Republicans who have been rebeling against the Iraq war. Nobody gave a shit about people who cleanout the toilets till the Bush war don’t seem to be going well. The Republicans just bought it out as a new baby rightwingnut toy for dum dums.
    Not like the war much? How about getting some hate on for that substitute towel head furner,the illegals. “Oh, but wait till she wipes my ol’ mother’s ass before you send her back.”
    Republicans are known for hiding their illegal maids in the basement when people visit. And they’re, “Like one of the family!”


  28. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    “… and Bush (in one of his only mistakes as prez)…”

    Comment by LimbaughHannitySavageareTrueAmericans — August 20, 2007 @ 10:29 pm

    ???WTF??? and Bush…**snort… giggle…** (in one of his ONLY??? **snort… smirk…** ???… mistakes as prez)????

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….

    Whew… wow… AMAZING!!!


  29. TexMex says:

  30. JPark says:

    “deported by the millions?

    got a source to back that up?

    Comment by Fan-of-Man ”

    Well, let’s see. You are an opponent of amnesty. Pretty sure you went them deported. There are millions of them. See the connection?


  31. JPark says:

    TexMex, nice to see their wedge issue backfired, isn’t it?


  32. RUCerious says:

    The bill was Bush’s last hope for some ‘legasee’.
    It died because the only winners were big business.


  33. had enough says:

    Doesn’t the GOP want to preserve immigration as a wedge issue… wedge issues such as abortion, gay marriage….what would they do if they had no wedge issues and were forced to stay on important topics…


  34. JPark says:

    They don’t want to keep this one, had enough. It is political dynamite for them.


  35. Egreggious says:

    what would they do if they had no wedge issues and were forced to stay on important topics…

    Comment by had enough — August 20, 2007 @ 11:07 pm

    Die a quick death.


  36. JPark says:

    Pandora’s box comes to mind.


  37. had enough says:

    it is political dynamite for them

    Exactly


  38. Mycelium says:

    #15

    Speaking about big business…how BIG is that do you think. Supplying the navy since the 1960’s? Bet there’s a lot here we’d like to know about. Don’t want to get ot…but I think this is huge and probably needs its own thread. E-mailed it to TP earlier but…

    Ot. I heard that many “illegal” Mexican construction workers are heading back to Mexico now that the light construction boom has all but ended. Plenty of cash to build their own homes/lives in Mexico.


  39. Dave Chandler says:

    I was a Green Party candidate for Congress in 2006; I am certainly a progressive.

    I opposed this so-called ‘immigration reform’ legislation … and the rightwing radio talkers had nothing to do with my position. Kennedy-McCain was a pro-transnational corporation, cheap labor bill … endorsed by Bush and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the proposal was a dagger aimed at the economic heart of working class Americans.

    Think Progress (and many liberals) are on the wrong side of this issue … working Americans need to be protected from lower wages and benefits — allowing almost unlimited, immigrant labor into the country is not the way to do that.


  40. JPark says:

    Really, Dave, you are Green? I don’t hear ANYBODY but righties suggesting the Dems want unlimited immigrants. Just saying.


  41. Mycelium says:

    Comment by Dave Chandler — August 20, 2007 @ 11:15 pm

    And where might someone be able to vote for you in 08?


  42. Juan C says:

    Plenty of cash to build their own homes/lives in Mexico.
    Comment by Mycelium

    The second source of incoming wealth to Mexico are the cash flow sent by immigrants in the US.


  43. JPark says:

    Immigration is just like Social Security. Yes, there are problems but intelligent, moderate legislation will take care of it, Dave. You might want to tone down the rhetoric if you are actually Green. It is a loser issue.


  44. JPark says:

    If you are a righty, bang away!!


  45. Michael Savage, PhD says:

    This bill was amnesty. We killed the bill. Limaugh+Hannity+Savage=at least 20 million angry calls to the senate.


  46. had enough says:

    The immigration talk has been around for what ….20 years? It seems to only remain talk, angry conversations and then talk again…. a method of getting the masses distracted at given times?

    Solutions to this:

    1. eliminate instant citizenship to those born on US soil from the undocumented

    2. Seriously go after employers that hire the undocumented.

    Before the Reagan years there was enforcement on hiring only US citizens… immigration was not a problem as it is now.

    I am going to say it is big business that is putting the breaks on any kind of immigration reform.


  47. JPark says:

    Michael Weiner, go ahead and take the credit. You bigots had evil motives but you did the correct thing, for once.


  48. ronjazz says:

    This bill was amnesty. We killed the bill. Limaugh+Hannity+Savage=at least 20 million angry calls to the senate.

    Comment by Michael Savage, PhD — August 20, 2007 @ 11:36 pm

    20 million? Bull.


  49. upside00 says:

    I am going to say it is big business that is putting the breaks on any kind of immigration reform.

    Comment by had enough — August 20, 2007 @ 11:37 pm

    And why we will never have an EFFECTIVE and reasonable law. The current program is worth too much money to change it.


  50. Michael Savage, PhD says:

    omment by ronjazz — August 20, 2007 @ 11:40 pm

    The combined audience is about 30 million, assuming some ppl listen to more than one host-id estimate 10-20 million calls.


  51. JPark says:

    Right, Weiner. Delusional?


  52. upside00 says:

    Comment by ronjazz — August 20, 2007 @ 11:40 pm

    The combined audience is about 30 million, assuming some ppl listen to more than one host-id estimate 10-20 million calls.

    Comment by Michael Savage, PhD — August 20, 2007 @ 11:44 pm

    30 million mouth-breathing double digit IQer 28%ers.

    Nothing in those demographics to be proud of.


  53. Michael Savage, PhD says:

  54. JPark says:

    Oh, yeah, don’t forget them. They are all such brilliant thinkers.


  55. Michael Savage, PhD says:

    Savage’s audience doesn’t like Bush, he’s not a fan of W. He calls Rush+Hannity Bushbots.


  56. JPark says:

    He is also a disgusting, racist slimeball.


  57. had enough says:

    And why we will never have an EFFECTIVE and reasonable law. The current program is worth too much money to change it.

    Comment by upside00

    Exactly right…If we could go back to the days of enforcing employers to hire only US citizens, there would be no reason for the undocumented to rob jobs, lowering the salary index. And how hard would this be … to enforce a law? This whole thing stinks… we are under corporate rule. As long as it is They the corporations instead of We the People, there will be no change.


  58. Michael Savage, PhD says:

    Comment by JPark — August 20, 2007 @ 11:51 pm

    Listen to an entire show a few times. You will find he is not racist, but harsh and SARCASTIC.


  59. Mike Wiener says:

    Yeah, that’s right. I frickin’ killed this malicious anti-semitic piece-of-trash bill! And I did it in my pajamas, you scum, all while I was daydreaming of my wonderful dates with Alan Ginsberg back in the day. Ahh, how I secretly miss being a depraved, disgusting homosexual…


  60. JPV says:

    Not really Matt. Huge corporations move their factories to other countries. They don’t need immigrants, they use foreign labor.

    Comment by JPark

    You don’t live in California… do you?


  61. Marcus Aurelius says:

    http://www.talkers.com/ main/ index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=34

    Don’t forget Boortz, Ingraham, Beck, O’reilly, and Levin.

    Comment by Michael Savage, PhD — August 20, 2007 @ 11:49 pm

    I had almost forgotten them, until you brought them up. Thanks, dude.


  62. michael says:

    “This is also statistically representative of a high percentage of gullible morons in our society.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 20, 2007″

    Gullible? How so?


  63. Michael Savage, PhD says:

    Amnesty for illegal aliens is not about racism against mexicans. It is about fairness to the legal mexican imigrants who put a great deal of effort to become legal. Many legal hispanic immigrants call in to express their support for Savage, because they know what it took to become a citizen. This is about illegality vs, legality, not hispanic vs. white.


  64. michael says:

    Thank God for people like Limbaugh, Hannity, and Savage! This was amnesty. This is the one big Bush defeat I applaud!


  65. michael says:

    “This is about illegality vs, legality, not hispanic vs. white.

    Comment by Michael Savage, PhD — August 21, 2007″

    If this is really you Dr. Savage, THANK YOU!


  66. Michael Savage, PhD says:

    Comment by michael — August 21, 2007 @ 12:06 am

    Its not, unfortunately. He would never infiltrate liberal blogs to stir up trouble. Or would he?


  67. had enough says:

    Michael Savage, PhD

    I agree.. I believe in fairness and equality for all. And, If you, myself or anyone on this board became illegally employed in Mexico, they would jail us so fast.


  68. michael says:

    “Or would he?

    Comment by Michael Savage, PhD — August 21, 2007″

    What’s the name of your boat?


  69. firehead says:

    SHAMNESTY is dead. I thank Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, gods of the radio waves.

    Tell me libs, why do you support ILLEGAL immigration? You punks like breaking the law?


  70. Michael Savage, PhD says:

    Comment by had enough — August 21, 2007 @ 12:10 am

    I agree. You are certainy correct about Mexico. They treat the Guatemalan illegals like dirt. The Mexican military beats them and often kills them unless they’re paid off.

    Comment by michael — August 21, 2007 @ 12:10 am

    You’ll have to ask teddy, lol.


  71. michael says:

    “You’ll have to ask teddy, lol.

    Comment by Michael Savage, PhD — August 21, 2007″

    Well you know, the liberals on this blog sometimes think I am Ann! Big compliment!


  72. alp3 says:

    oh, michael.

    it was said you dress as ann.

    please feed your ego elsewhere.


  73. michael says:

    “please feed your ego elsewhere.

    Comment by alp3 — August 21, 2007″

    Why? Do you think that highly of her?


  74. alp3 says:

    i think you may think highly of her.

    does that fulfill your sense of self, mike?


  75. michael orwell says:

    Comment by michael — August 21, 2007 @ 12:10 am

    WOW, the hypocrisy in that post is like crap hitting the fan.


  76. michael says:

    “i think you may think highly of her.

    does that fulfill your sense of self, mike?

    Comment by alp3 — August 21, 2007″

    I think very highly of her after all she helped bring down the pervert clinton!


  77. michael orwell says:

    Well you know, the liberals on this blog sometimes think I am Ann! Big compliment! Comment by michael

    Is that what you think? Bwaha. No, we think Ann is a man.
    But hey if the skirt fits!


  78. michael says:

    “WOW, the hypocrisy in that post is like crap hitting the fan.

    Comment by michael orwell — August 21, 2007″

    Really? Explain?


  79. michael orwell says:

    I think very highly of her after all she helped bring down the pervert clinton! Comment by michael

    While ignoring the pervert Newt [among others]


  80. alp3 says:

    interesting choice of words, mike.

    alter (something) from its original course, meaning, or state to a distortion or corruption of what was first intended : he was charged with conspiring to pervert the course of justice. • lead (someone) away from what is considered right, natural, or acceptable : Hector is a man who is simply perverted by his time.


  81. michael orwell says:

    Really? Explain?

    Comment by michael

    To you? Hold your breath?


  82. michael says:

    “While ignoring the pervert Newt [among others]

    Comment by michael orwell — August 21, 2007″

    So? Your point?


  83. michael says:

    “To you? Hold your breath?

    Comment by michael orwell — August 21, 2007″

    I take it as, you can’t?


  84. michael orwell says:

    I take it as, you can’t?

    Comment by michael

    I take it as, you cant interpolate?


  85. michael says:

    “I take it as, you cant interpolate?

    Comment by michael orwell — August 21, 2007″

    I still take it as you can’t, like most liberals.


  86. michael orwell says:

    So? Your point?

    Comment by michael

    I take it as, your blind?


  87. alp3 says:

    can’t? or won’t, mike?

    why won’t anyone answer your questions? the way you want them to.

    mike?

    why?


  88. michael orwell says:

    still take it as you can’t…
    Comment by michael

    In a dress? On your belly?


  89. michael says:

    “I take it as, your blind?

    Comment by michael orwell — August 21, 2007″

    Blind? Of what?


  90. alp3 says:

    of what are you blind, mike?


  91. michael orwell says:

    Blind? Of what?

    Comment by michael

    Of mind?


  92. michael says:

    “of what are you blind, mike?

    Comment by alp3 — August 21, 2007″

    Can’t answer me? I didn’t think you could!


  93. michael orwell says:

    Can’t answer me? I didn’t think you could!
    Comment by michael

    Couldn’t I? You dont know? Really?


  94. michael orwell says:

    Surely he knows, right Alp?


  95. alp3 says:

    it knows what it thinks.

    it rarely thinks.


  96. michael orwell says:

    Dont you know michael? I though you, of all, shoud know, yes?


  97. michael says:

    ” You dont know? Really?

    Comment by michael orwell — August 21, 2007″

    I sure do! And so does all the other liberals on this blog hoping you can stand up to a Conservative, but once again they are disappointed in the typical liberal non-response.


  98. michael orwell says:

    it knows what it thinks. it rarely thinks.
    Comment by alp3

    It thinks it knows?


  99. alp3 says:

  100. michael orwell says:

    I sure do!

    Can you prove that opinion?


  101. michael orwell says:

    Are opinions truth michael?


  102. michael says:

    Go back to your Michael Moore website to embarrass yourselves, I’ll be back to make fools of you tomorrow.


  103. alp3 says:

    i think it thinks it knows. i don’t know. but i think.


  104. michael orwell says:

    Am I, in truth, what you imagine a liberal to be?


  105. michael orwell says:

    Go back to your Michael Moore website to embarrass yourselves, I’ll be back to make fools of you tomorrow.
    Comment by michael

    I go to michael moore webistes? Got proof of that opinion?


  106. alp3 says:

  107. michael orwell says:

    think it thinks it knows. i don’t know. but i think.

    Comment by alp3

    It thinks an opinion is truth? Why? Isn’t that an odd way to debate?


  108. michael orwell says:

    michael I thought you wanted to debate? And make me look dumb?


  109. gummitch says:

    Go back to your Michael Moore website to embarrass yourselves, I’ll be back to make fools of you tomorrow.

    Comment by michael — August 21, 2007 @ 1:01 am

    Good for you michael? If at first you don’t succeed, try try again.

    You’ll eventually get there. Or, really, probably not, but thanks for trying.

    Seriously, why not try another approach? Other than the stupid interrogatories? As if they made you look smart? When really you look like an idiot?

    Michael Valley Girl?


  110. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Truth doesn’t exist! It’s a made up concept!

    Comment by Makarios — August 21, 2007 @ 1:06 am

    But stupidity is ETERNAL, Makarios.


  111. michael orwell says:

    Truth doesn’t exist! It’s a made up concept!
    Comment by Makarios

    Ah grasshopper, truth is I debated michael, his conception of it, and won.

    Heh.


  112. alp3 says:

    yes.

    very odd indeed.

    such an odd fellow, that mike.


  113. michael orwell says:

    He who asks infinite amount of questions is infinitely unwise.


  114. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    nothing is eternal.

    Comment by Makarios — August 21, 2007 @ 1:11 am

    Yes, “nothing” is eternal, just as “something” is eternal. I your case, it just seems as though stupidity is eternal, seeing as you’re so absolutley devoted to the cause – the proverbial “slow boat to nowhere”.



  115. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    He who asks infinite amount of questions is infinitely unwise.

    Comment by michael orwell — August 21, 2007 @ 1:11 am

    michael is a coward. He is a petty sadist who only comes here hoping to embarrass people. He has no real viewpoint or position to make. He only wants to hurt people’s feelings. He is very, very desperate, a truly bitter, unhappy person.


  116. michael orwell says:

    Yes michael is a bit odd, only his opinion counts and his is always more right than anyone elses.


  117. michael orwell says:

    He is a petty sadist who only comes here hoping to embarrass people.

    Heh. Well I won’t judge him harshly, but he aint gonna have much luck trying to embarrass folks.


  118. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Yes michael is a bit odd, only his opinion counts and his is always more right than anyone elses.

    Comment by michael orwell — August 21, 2007 @ 1:19 am

    You weren’t here the night we pooled money and offered to fly michael and/or mr P (Makarios) to Austin to free spar one of our reg poster’s DAUGHTER. They both took off so fast they left skid marks. Turns out they were both hanging out at a thread we all had left an hr earlier. It’s true.

    michael was haranging me, full well knowing I wasn’t there. mr P went around to deserted thread anfter thread, putting up his name, like a dog marking territory. Tres bizarre, as the French would say.


  119. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Have you been here when he stalks Zooey all night?

    He’s a petty sadist and more than a little creepy.


  120. michael orwell says:

    michael was haranging me, full well knowing I wasn’t there. mr P went around to deserted thread anfter thread.

    I have a feeling they are teenagers out for the summer. School starts soon, so we’ll see.

    Well, tired, gonna sign out, goodnite TROS -Zep


  121. michael orwell says:

    Have you been here when he stalks Zooey all night?

    Yeh, I have chased him off several times before for stalking Zooey -Zep

    GN TROS


  122. alp3 says:

    the one and only absolute truth on this planet in this world is this:

    young republican get-togethers are a f*ckin’ drag.
    always have been, always will be.

    existentialism. heh.


  123. Probus says:

    The immigration bill in the Senate was a good bill. It wasn’t perfect, but it was a good bill that should have passed with broad bipartisan support. Illegal immigrants should have been allowed to become eventual citizens. It wasn’t amnesty. This bill included provisions that all illegal immigrants would have had to follow. Conservatives killed this bill because of racism.


  124. Michael Savage, PhD says:

    Conservatives killed this bill because of racism.

    Comment by Probus — August 21, 2007 @ 2:19 am

    You should have read my earlier post. Not all conservatives are racist. This is about breaking the law, and illegal immigrants are unfairly getting an advantage compared to the latinos who worked hard to immigrate legally, who often praise Savage for his opposition to amnesty (Savage is in favor of legal immigration). If you listen to Savage he is sarcastic and satirical, which can be misunderstood. He is critical of affirmative action but he often says that it is not helping the black community because the problems are with the lack of fathers in the home-a problem that he wants to help fix through church programs and marriage tax incentives. He is critical of gays in a religious context but he will give free gifts to conservative gays who call in his show. He is a biologist and epidemiologist so he often tells scientific stories about his research in Fiji and the pacific. You should all listen to a few shows–it is much better than the bushbots rush and hannity and you will get a different perspective from just liberal blogs (i listen to ed schultz too, as a conservative independent).


  125. mparker says:

    Hate and lies are all the republicans have. It’s all they’ve ever had.

    Immigrants are the new boogyman for the next election.

    Every other topic has already been spun to ruin and nobody believes anything a republican says now.

    Michael Weener is still a racist fool and so is anybody that thinks deporting millions of people is a good idea. It destroys lives,families and communities and will cost a fortune, forever.

    Sure sounds like a republican plan, eh.


  126. Hurricane Dean says:

    In the end, the illegals get their “amnesty” anyway, George Bush gets another kick to the nuts, and America gets to see that the GOP have NOTHING to offer America but a small legion of dullards who worship troubled chemical dependents like Limbaugh.


  127. the fly-man says:

    Regardless of Talk radio’s influence, the spineless GOP sat on their hands for 6 years because they didn’t want their Dear Leader signing a bill that Sen. Kennedy sponsored. So talk radio killed it? Hardly, the spineless GOP did nothing and let the Democrats have at it and then when it came time to draft the bill allll of a sudden their constituncies had major problems with the bill,even thought those problems could have been addresssed FOR 6YEARS, and it had to be defeated. Conservatives are just whiners, they’re balless and the lack of Socical Security and immigration reform bills that they had the votes for while they were in power proves my point.


  128. Guido, Lover, OBGYN says:

    This was win-win for the Repubs. This was a game. Righty radio killed reform for Bush. They still have their secondary working class without voter rights.


  129. Jay Randal says:

    Hurricane Dean’s eye came ashore in the Yucation a few hours ago. At landfall Dean had sustained winds of 165 mph with gusts over 200 mph. 25 miles of the coastline has been wiped out. Damage to the area and about 25+ miles inland is catastrophic.


  130. Steven Johnson says:

    You political persons are simply just a bunch of apes responding to input.


  131. upside00 says:

    You political persons are simply just a bunch of apes responding to input.

    Comment by Steven Johnson — August 21, 2007 @ 9:19 am

    Since you responded, I assume you belong to the ape fami.y as well.


  132. DRxJ says:

    You political persons are simply just a bunch of apes responding to input.

    Comment by Steven’s tiny Johnson — August 21, 2007 @ 9:19 am

    Wow, your direct response is so informative of your intellictual debating skills! Your knowledge on topic of thread is unmatched!
    I sit here, in awe, of your posting skills!

    Ohhhh Ohhhhh Ahhhhh Ahhhhh


  133. Ringo says:

    The bill was killed because the majority of Americans were against it.

    Build a fence first, then we can decide what to do with those people who are already here…..after the fence is built.


  134. Duplojohn says:

    The two blow hards that started most of this debate we’re the clowns on KFI-640 in Los Angeles. John and Ken.

    These are two have turned illegal imigration into a multi-million dollar business (for them) in Southern California where the issue hits hard.

    All of the guys are totally disengenuous to be kind.

    It’s all show folks.


  135. Chad of Chad says:

    Good for Right Wing radio. Only good thing it’s ever done: look out for the sanctity of American borders AND law.


  136. Scott says:

    Sounds like Rush and Co finally did something right. The bill was a bad one and it should not have passed.



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