Comments on: ThinkFast: August 20, 2007 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:57:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Free RePubic Readers Have Sex with Their MOthers http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4026342 Free RePubic Readers Have Sex with Their MOthers Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:59:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4026342 Ah more muck from muckdog, who gets his quotes from people who get paid 4 figures an hour to consult for the OIl industry and who make outrageous claims like "Cigrarettes arent bad for you, and that "asbestos could have saved the twins towers." hahahaha. hey muckdog, you think newsweek is in the pocket of "big Gore"? Oh and jake.. your a lawyer AND a soldier too now? hahahaha. so tell me smart guy, what city and state did you take the bar exam, what year was it, and what was a passing score on the exam you took? how many different exams did you take to get your law liscense? how many digits are in your bar # ? Ah more muck from muckdog, who gets his quotes from people who get paid 4 figures an hour to consult for the OIl industry and who make outrageous claims like “Cigrarettes arent bad for you, and that “asbestos could have saved the twins towers.” hahahaha. hey muckdog, you think newsweek is in the pocket of “big Gore”?

Oh and jake.. your a lawyer AND a soldier too now? hahahaha. so tell me smart guy, what city and state did you take the bar exam, what year was it, and what was a passing score on the exam you took? how many different exams did you take to get your law liscense? how many digits are in your bar # ?

]]> By: J http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4025399 J Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:38:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4025399 "Newsweek implied, for example, that ExxonMobil used a think tank (AEI) to pay academics to criticize global-warming science. Actually, this accusation was long ago discredited, and Newsweek shouldn’t have lent it respectability. . . ." Comment by muckdog — August 20, 2007 @ 3:46 pm link? (Oh, and somewhere other than from Drudge, please.) “Newsweek implied, for example, that ExxonMobil used a think tank (AEI) to pay academics to criticize global-warming science. Actually, this accusation was long ago discredited, and Newsweek shouldn’t have lent it respectability. . . .”

Comment by muckdog — August 20, 2007 @ 3:46 pm

link? (Oh, and somewhere other than from Drudge, please.)

]]> By: LevinLessThanBush http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4025362 LevinLessThanBush Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:17:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4025362 It’s clearly as if they are departing the scene of a crime - hoping against hope that by the time Bush departs that they will be forgotten by the war crimes tribunal in The Hague, for that is where they all deserve to end up: Bush, Rove, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld and Blair for creating such a monumental human catastrophe in Iraq. Everything else Bush has done has the stench of incompetence, of venal greed, of rank stupidity, vile arrogance. He is an abject failure yet the smug swagger and the demented fratboy grin are still there. The man without a clue. Americans should be much more careful not to vote for someone of such obvious staggering banality and whose talent would perhaps have suited a small town council and no more. The world could not be in a worse I just have to say that Schlozman is a great American becasue of the fact that he didn't want to suppress the voting rights of anybody, but rather he wanted to get them to show IDS It’s clearly as if they are departing the scene of a crime – hoping against hope that by the time Bush departs that they will be forgotten by the war crimes tribunal in The Hague, for that is where they all deserve to end up: Bush, Rove, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld and Blair for creating such a monumental human catastrophe in Iraq.
Everything else Bush has done has the stench of incompetence, of venal greed, of rank stupidity, vile arrogance. He is an abject failure yet the smug swagger and the demented fratboy grin are still there. The man without a clue.
Americans should be much more careful not to vote for someone of such obvious staggering banality and whose talent would perhaps have suited a small town council and no more. The world could not be in a worse
I just have to say that Schlozman is a great American becasue of the fact that he didn’t want to suppress the voting rights of anybody, but rather he wanted to get them to show IDS

]]> By: Probus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4025184 Probus Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:00:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4025184 Any effort to raise awareness about global warming is both welcome and needed. Global warming is a very serious concern and Bush should be listening to scientists instead of listening to the AEI and energy company executives who contribute to global warming with their environmentally unsafe practices. Any effort to raise awareness about global warming is both welcome and needed. Global warming is a very serious concern and Bush should be listening to scientists instead of listening to the AEI and energy company executives who contribute to global warming with their environmentally unsafe practices.

]]> By: Probus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4025177 Probus Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:56:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4025177 The violence in Iraq continues to grow and the surge has done nothing to control the civil war violence. The surge is a flawed strategy and Bush should change course. His policies have done made us more unsafe. The violence in Iraq continues to grow and the surge has done nothing to control the civil war violence. The surge is a flawed strategy and Bush should change course. His policies have done made us more unsafe.

]]> By: muckdog http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4025035 muckdog Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:46:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4025035 Newsweek rebuts their own article on global warming! <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20226462/site/newsweek/page/0/" rel="nofollow">Link</a>. Excerpt: Self-righteous indignation can undermine good journalism. Last week’s Newsweek cover story on global warning is a sobering reminder. . . . Newsweek’s “denial machine” is a peripheral and highly contrived story. Newsweek implied, for example, that ExxonMobil used a think tank (AEI) to pay academics to criticize global-warming science. Actually, this accusation was long ago discredited, and Newsweek shouldn't have lent it respectability. . . . Journalists should resist the temptation to portray global warming as a morality tale—as Newsweek did—in which anyone who questions its gravity or proposed solutions may be ridiculed as a fool, a crank or an industry stooge. Dissent is, or should be, the lifeblood of a free society. Newsweek rebuts their own article on global warming! Link. Excerpt:

Self-righteous indignation can undermine good journalism. Last week’s Newsweek cover story on global warning is a sobering reminder. . . .

Newsweek’s “denial machine” is a peripheral and highly contrived story. Newsweek implied, for example, that ExxonMobil used a think tank (AEI) to pay academics to criticize global-warming science. Actually, this accusation was long ago discredited, and Newsweek shouldn’t have lent it respectability. . . .

Journalists should resist the temptation to portray global warming as a morality tale—as Newsweek did—in which anyone who questions its gravity or proposed solutions may be ridiculed as a fool, a crank or an industry stooge. Dissent is, or should be, the lifeblood of a free society.

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4024653 missmolly Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:57:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4024653 Don't feel alone, Wayne -- it's been eating my posts, too. I wanted to post a rebuttal to Jake D's comment that somehow Pat Tillman's death had to do with national security because he died on a battlefield, but I can't get past whatever TP filters are out there. Serves me right -- maybe TP is just trying to tell me not to argue with a troll. Don’t feel alone, Wayne — it’s been eating my posts, too. I wanted to post a rebuttal to Jake D’s comment that somehow Pat Tillman’s death had to do with national security because he died on a battlefield, but I can’t get past whatever TP filters are out there.

Serves me right — maybe TP is just trying to tell me not to argue with a troll.

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4024646 Wayne Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:54:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4024646 This Thinkfast thread hates me. has eaten all my previous posts This Thinkfast thread hates me.
has eaten all my previous posts

]]> By: ed http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4024604 ed Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:26:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4024604 Comment by Juan C — August 20, 2007 @ 11:33 am It seems like a few years ago, I read an item that said Gore would make his presentation to your group for nothing. Maybe it included travel costs. That was a while before the movie made the presentation so well known. Comment by Juan C — August 20, 2007 @ 11:33 am

It seems like a few years ago, I read an item that said Gore would make his presentation to your group for nothing. Maybe it included travel costs. That was a while before the movie made the presentation so well known.

]]> By: Juan C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4024535 Juan C Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:33:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4024535 <em>Do you know where I could see the lecture? I doubt he’ll ever come to my town, but maybe it’s online? Comment by Zooey </em> I was told that, in order to bring him to Mexico, he asked tons of money and a super duper home theater all day on. ???? Well, every former president or vice president will ask that kind of money for sure. Do you know where I could see the lecture? I doubt he’ll ever come to my town, but maybe it’s online?
Comment by Zooey

I was told that, in order to bring him to Mexico, he asked tons of money and a super duper home theater all day on. ????

Well, every former president or vice president will ask that kind of money for sure.

]]> By: Bruce Gorton http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4024534 Bruce Gorton Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:33:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4024534 Zooey I don't know. I want to see it straight too, but I doubt he will come out to South Africa to deliver it. Heck that guy should have been president. Imagine, a president of the world's most powerful nation, who can actually <em>speak.</em> Zooey

I don’t know. I want to see it straight too, but I doubt he will come out to South Africa to deliver it.

Heck that guy should have been president. Imagine, a president of the world’s most powerful nation, who can actually speak.

]]> By: Jason M. Hendler http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4024525 Jason M. Hendler Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:29:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4024525 With all the time spent covering Karl Rove this Sunday, news coverage of Iraq must have dipped to 0%. With all the time spent covering Karl Rove this Sunday, news coverage of Iraq must have dipped to 0%.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4024521 Zooey Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:27:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4024521 Bruce, Do you know where I could see the lecture? I doubt he'll ever come to my town, but maybe it's online? Bruce,

Do you know where I could see the lecture? I doubt he’ll ever come to my town, but maybe it’s online?

]]> By: Bruce Gorton http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4024509 Bruce Gorton Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:22:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4024509 Zooey I know. It was one heck of a lecture, the sort of thing that made one think of what America lost when Bush was named president. Zooey

I know. It was one heck of a lecture, the sort of thing that made one think of what America lost when Bush was named president.

]]> By: barfly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4024503 barfly Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:19:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4024503 Morning folks. Here's some good news for a change: <i>OCEANSIDE, Calif. -- A North County biotechnology firm claims it has crossed a major hurdle in embryonic stem cells research by growing the cells directly from unfertilized human eggs, it was reported Monday. Critics have opposed use of embryonic stem cells, arguing that such research destroys human life. But because the egg cells at Oceanside-based International Stem Cell Corp. were never fertilized, there was no conception and thus no embryo, according to Jeff Krstich, the company's president and chief executive, the North County Times reported. Thus, research involving the company's stem cells should meet President George W. Bush's requirements for federal funding, Krstich told the Times. Citing moral concerns, Bush in 2001 banned the use of federal dollars for research on embryonic stem cells created after August of that year. Evan Snyder, head of the stem cell research program at the Burnham Institute in La Jolla, agrees with Krstich about the funding, but said proving that the company's cells work is the big challenge, the Times reported. Embryonic stem cells are normally taken from days-old human embryos made by normal fertilization. To be used in therapy, stem cells must be transformed, or differentiated, into the needed cell type, then transplanted into the patient. "I just think it remains to be seen how normal they would behave when differentiated, and most importantly, when transplanted," Snyder told the Times. Researchers around the world are investigating whether embryonic stem cells can be used to treat diseases and injuries. Krstich said his company's "parthenogenetic" cells could be used to treat people with diabetes, eye and liver disease by as early as next year, the Times reported.</i> Morning folks.

Here’s some good news for a change:

OCEANSIDE, Calif. — A North County biotechnology firm claims it has crossed a major hurdle in embryonic stem cells research by growing the cells directly from unfertilized human eggs, it was reported Monday.

Critics have opposed use of embryonic stem cells, arguing that such research destroys human life.

But because the egg cells at Oceanside-based International Stem Cell Corp. were never fertilized, there was no conception and thus no embryo, according to Jeff Krstich, the company’s president and chief executive, the North County Times reported.

Thus, research involving the company’s stem cells should meet President George W. Bush’s requirements for federal funding, Krstich told the Times. Citing moral concerns, Bush in 2001 banned the use of federal dollars for research on embryonic stem cells created after August of that year.

Evan Snyder, head of the stem cell research program at the Burnham Institute in La Jolla, agrees with Krstich about the funding, but said proving that the company’s cells work is the big challenge, the Times reported.

Embryonic stem cells are normally taken from days-old human embryos made by normal fertilization. To be used in therapy, stem cells must be transformed, or differentiated, into the needed cell type, then transplanted into the patient.

“I just think it remains to be seen how normal they would behave when differentiated, and most importantly, when transplanted,” Snyder told the Times.

Researchers around the world are investigating whether embryonic stem cells can be used to treat diseases and injuries. Krstich said his company’s “parthenogenetic” cells could be used to treat people with diabetes, eye and liver disease by as early as next year, the Times reported.

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4024499 The Republic of Stupidity Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:15:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4024499 HEY KATY - - I addressed no comments directly to Jake. I did make a couple of snide comments, then left. If these other folks are going to go back and forth w/ him, that's their business. It's called free speech. Stop moralizing. I tried getting people to clean it up and I got called a troll for it (even though it seemed to work, somewhat...). People are going to do what they do when they come here. The lecturing gets old. HEY KATY – -

I addressed no comments directly to Jake. I did make a couple of snide comments, then left. If these other folks are going to go back and forth w/ him, that’s their business. It’s called free speech.

Stop moralizing. I tried getting people to clean it up and I got called a troll for it (even though it seemed to work, somewhat…). People are going to do what they do when they come here. The lecturing gets old.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4024493 Zooey Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:09:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4024493 <em>They were a bit of a mistake though, the lecture was far, far stronger material. Comment by Bruce Gorton — August 20, 2007 @ 10:45 am</em> The movie made me want to see the lecture by itself, but I also enjoyed seeing the source of Gore's inspiration. They were a bit of a mistake though, the lecture was far, far stronger material.
Comment by Bruce Gorton — August 20, 2007 @ 10:45 am

The movie made me want to see the lecture by itself, but I also enjoyed seeing the source of Gore’s inspiration.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4024485 Zooey Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:08:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4024485 <em>Hey Zoo, got your Big Chief tablet and #3 pencils in the shiny new book bag? Comment by upside00 — August 20, 2007 @ 10:48 am</em> All of the above, and a shiny apple for the teacher. :) Hey Zoo,
got your Big Chief tablet and #3 pencils in the shiny new book bag?
Comment by upside00 — August 20, 2007 @ 10:48 am

All of the above, and a shiny apple for the teacher. :)

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-2/#comment-4024461 katy Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:59:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4024461 <em>Comment by DRxJ — August 20, 2007 @ 10:32 am</em> yea yea yea... every day... all day long... i like to give the newbies more credit than that... there are ways to discredit the troolls without directly engaging them. just sayin'... . Comment by DRxJ — August 20, 2007 @ 10:32 am

yea yea yea… every day… all day long…

i like to give the newbies more credit than that…

there are ways to discredit the troolls without directly engaging them.

just sayin’…
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]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/comment-page-2/#comment-4024445 missmolly Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:50:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/20/thinkfast-august-20-2007/#comment-4024445 Yesterday I saw an Inconvenient Truth. Comment by Juan C — August 20, 2007 @ 10:35 am I'm glad to get your recommendation. I just got a copy of it and will watch it at the earliest opportunity. I got another recommendation that was sincere. I met someone who claims to be a "diehard Republican" with "no fondness for Al Gore" watched the film and came away from it saying that "you can't argue with facts, no matter who delivers them". I look forward to seeing it. Yesterday I saw an Inconvenient Truth.

Comment by Juan C — August 20, 2007 @ 10:35 am

I’m glad to get your recommendation. I just got a copy of it and will watch it at the earliest opportunity.

I got another recommendation that was sincere. I met someone who claims to be a “diehard Republican” with “no fondness for Al Gore” watched the film and came away from it saying that “you can’t argue with facts, no matter who delivers them”.

I look forward to seeing it.

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