Comments on: CIA unprepared for al Qaeda before 9/11. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:29:39 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: daytripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4028963 daytripper Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:52:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4028963 Bill, Al Qaeda is merely a constructed bete noir. All the evidence needed for this assumption is in Iraq, where, given the perfect oppurtunity to attack US forces they make up but a tiny fraction of the belligerent factions. Without coming to terms with this basic understanding, nobody is ever going to realise what is really going on. You all want wars like this to end? Then i suggest you start lobbying for fuel efficiency standards. And not just minor standards, equivalent to EU standards. The root cause lies in the USAs (deliberately) decadent use of oil. Bill, Al Qaeda is merely a constructed bete noir. All the evidence needed for this assumption is in Iraq, where, given the perfect oppurtunity to attack US forces they make up but a tiny fraction of the belligerent factions.

Without coming to terms with this basic understanding, nobody is ever going to realise what is really going on.

You all want wars like this to end? Then i suggest you start lobbying for fuel efficiency standards. And not just minor standards, equivalent to EU standards. The root cause lies in the USAs (deliberately) decadent use of oil.

]]> By: Bill in Chicago http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4028961 Bill in Chicago Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:27:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4028961 Yes, they're still unprepared for Al Qaeda, and will continue to be until they focus on these guys: www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com How many big red flags do they need? Yes, they’re still unprepared for Al Qaeda, and will continue to be until they focus on these guys:

http://www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com

How many big red flags do they need?

]]> By: blackie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4028955 blackie Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:01:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4028955 "The good news - you're getttin' a medal. The bad news - you're the fall guy. thanks for takin' one fer the team. Heckuvajob." “The good news – you’re getttin’ a medal. The bad news – you’re the fall guy. thanks for takin’ one fer the team. Heckuvajob.”

]]> By: Argusauge http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4028932 Argusauge Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:30:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4028932 @Snidely Whiplash, you were warned by perhaps 20 intelligence agencies around the world, see the 911 timeline (http://tinyurl.com/2awtb2). @Snidely Whiplash,

you were warned by perhaps 20 intelligence agencies around the world, see the 911 timeline (http://tinyurl.com/2awtb2).

]]> By: Probus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4028828 Probus Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:32:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4028828 Unfortunately not enough was done to protect us from bin Laden. The fault clearly lies with Tenet. He didn't deserve the medal of freedom. He failed to protect Americans. Unfortunately not enough was done to protect us from bin Laden. The fault clearly lies with Tenet. He didn’t deserve the medal of freedom. He failed to protect Americans.

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4028445 Bob Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:32:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4028445 Bush did it too. nanananananan Bush did it too. nanananananan

]]> By: The Oracle http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4028417 The Oracle Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:20:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4028417 The 9/11 Commission Report stated that Bill Clinton's administration held cabinet-level counterterrorism meetings three times a week, meaning that in the last eight months in office, top Clinton officials held 100 of these meetings to address the al Qaeda right-wing terrorist threat. Sooo, how many top level counterterrorism meetings did the incoming Bush administration hold in the first eight months of his entrance into our White House and up until the 9/11 attacks occurred? ONE. And this ONE meeting was held just ONE week before the 9/11 attacks and ONE month after Bush was briefed by the CIA at his hog farm outside Crawford TX that "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the U.S." In fact, Condi Rice (NSA chief at the time) stated that this ONE meeting was not called to specifically address the al Qaeda terrorist threat, but was called so that the Bush administration could develop it's own Middle East "regional strategy" (as opposed to Clinton's "regional strategy") with dealing with the al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and elsewhere, just being part of the Bush strategy...a small part. Hmmm, anyone want to bet that 90 percent of this ONE meeting held ONE week before the 9/11 attacks dealt with Bush's obsession to attack Iraq and kill Saddam Hussein? Awww, you know I'm right. 100 to 1. These indicates to me that Bill Clinton's administration was 100 times more vigilant in addressing the al Qaeda terrorist threat than the Bush administration was...which is the real reason why some right-wing religious terrorists succeeded in attacking us on 9/11. Bush, Cheney and all the wingnuts had Iraq on their minds...not al Qaeda. The 9/11 Commission Report stated that Bill Clinton’s administration held cabinet-level counterterrorism meetings three times a week, meaning that in the last eight months in office, top Clinton officials held 100 of these meetings to address the al Qaeda right-wing terrorist threat.

Sooo, how many top level counterterrorism meetings did the incoming Bush administration hold in the first eight months of his entrance into our White House and up until the 9/11 attacks occurred?

ONE.

And this ONE meeting was held just ONE week before the 9/11 attacks and ONE month after Bush was briefed by the CIA at his hog farm outside Crawford TX that “Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the U.S.”

In fact, Condi Rice (NSA chief at the time) stated that this ONE meeting was not called to specifically address the al Qaeda terrorist threat, but was called so that the Bush administration could develop it’s own Middle East “regional strategy” (as opposed to Clinton’s “regional strategy”) with dealing with the al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and elsewhere, just being part of the Bush strategy…a small part.

Hmmm, anyone want to bet that 90 percent of this ONE meeting held ONE week before the 9/11 attacks dealt with Bush’s obsession to attack Iraq and kill Saddam Hussein?

Awww, you know I’m right.

100 to 1.

These indicates to me that Bill Clinton’s administration was 100 times more vigilant in addressing the al Qaeda terrorist threat than the Bush administration was…which is the real reason why some right-wing religious terrorists succeeded in attacking us on 9/11.

Bush, Cheney and all the wingnuts had Iraq on their minds…not al Qaeda.

]]> By: db http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4028399 db Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:13:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4028399 The failure to even understand foreign languages for intelligence reasons translate into "was hampered by insufficient analytic focus,”. The failure to even understand foreign languages for intelligence reasons translate into “was hampered by insufficient analytic focus,”.

]]> By: ipod http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4028235 ipod Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:54:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4028235 Clinton let Osama go. Go figure! Comment by Bob — August 21, 2007 @ 3:56 pm so did bush - at tora bora in 2001 Clinton let Osama go. Go figure!

Comment by Bob — August 21, 2007 @ 3:56 pm

so did bush – at tora bora in 2001

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4028047 WaltTheMan Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:34:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4028047 Comment by Gerald Gibson — August 21, 2007 @ 7:11 pm I believe that it was Tenet. Bush's comment was to the effect - 'OK, now you have covered your ass.' Then Bush went fishing. Comment by Gerald Gibson — August 21, 2007 @ 7:11 pm

I believe that it was Tenet. Bush’s comment was to the effect – ‘OK, now you have covered your ass.’ Then Bush went fishing.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4027991 big papa Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:01:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4027991 ...do we take back the Medal of Freedom now? …do we take back the Medal of Freedom now?

]]> By: Gerald Gibson http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4027846 Gerald Gibson Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:11:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4027846 who was it that delivered the briefing to bush on Bin Laden determined to strike? who was it that delivered the briefing to bush on Bin Laden determined to strike?

]]> By: Uriah Heap http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4027699 Uriah Heap Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:00:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4027699 Comment by Badger — August 21, 2007 @ 4:48 pm Chalmers Johnson make a very good case that Bush/Cheney were also after oil pipelines across the oil rich countries above Afghanistan. The former Russian provinces are weak politically and have lots of untapped oil. Comment by Badger — August 21, 2007 @ 4:48 pm

Chalmers Johnson make a very good case that Bush/Cheney were also after oil pipelines across the oil rich countries above Afghanistan. The former Russian provinces are weak politically and have lots of untapped oil.

]]> By: flamethrower http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4027607 flamethrower Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:23:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4027607 "Operation Ignore" “Operation Ignore”

]]> By: wm http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4027597 wm Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:20:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4027597 For Oil For Oil

]]> By: wm http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4027595 wm Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:19:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4027595 Failure leads to Bush and Cheney as they were stratagising on Iraq. Failure leads to Bush and Cheney as they were stratagising on Iraq.

]]> By: wm http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4027586 wm Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:17:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4027586 Hey, wait a minute. Wasn't it Bush and Condi who blew off all attemps by the CIA to raise red flags and alerts. They did zero until after 9/11. Clinton made a few attemps but Bush didn't even listen to the warnings of his own counter terrism guy and then fired him when he was right. Wm Hey, wait a minute. Wasn’t it Bush and Condi who blew off all attemps by the CIA to raise red flags and alerts. They did zero until after 9/11. Clinton made a few attemps but Bush didn’t even listen to the warnings of his own counter terrism guy and then fired him when he was right.
Wm

]]> By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4027569 Exley Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:12:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4027569 Now, having said that, let me say that I am not blaming Clinton for the atrocity of 9/11. I am simply pointing out what the report says and thus showing that any attempt by people here to blame Bush for 9/11 is equally futile. The people responsible for 9/11 are Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda. Now, having said that, let me say that I am not blaming Clinton for the atrocity of 9/11. I am simply pointing out what the report says and thus showing that any attempt by people here to blame Bush for 9/11 is equally futile. The people responsible for 9/11 are Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.

]]> By: Frank J http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4027558 Frank J Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:08:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4027558 Another Clinton failure. Shocking! Another Clinton failure. Shocking!

]]> By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/comment-page-1/#comment-4027555 Exley Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:07:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/21/cia-unprepared-for-al-qaeda-before-911/#comment-4027555 '[T]he report said, as “the CIA had made no comprehensive report on Osama bin Laden since 1993, had not examined the potential for terrorists to use aircraft as weapons, and had done only limited analysis on the potential of the United States as a target.” ' Hmmmm...Who was president from 1993 to 2001???? Let me think.... ‘[T]he report said, as “the CIA had made no comprehensive report on Osama bin Laden since 1993, had not examined the potential for terrorists to use aircraft as weapons, and had done only limited analysis on the potential of the United States as a target.” ‘

Hmmmm…Who was president from 1993 to 2001???? Let me think….

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