I see no reason to ever tolerate a liar like Jonathan. He is spreading lies to try and bolster his weak defenses of his political position. He is a typical rightwinger in this, he thinks it is acceptable to lie to further his own cause.

Cleland’s injuries were sustained when a fellow soldier’s grenade popped out of his jacket. Cleland thought the grenade was his, picked up and it went off. They were exiting from a Helicopter at the time, and entering battle. Somehow I doubt the US military is so nice as to host booze ups on the way to the combat zone.

The young, other soldier in question had been wearing a jacket full of grenade’s with straight pins, making him a disaster waiting to happen.

Of course, don’t let the facts get in the way of your propaganda you lying sack of shit.

Cleland was not wounded in combat. He dropped a grenade on himself drunk.

The Haditha Marines were cleared of all charges, you seditious scumbag. Charges that were alleged by the enemy. It is only because of dirt merchants like yourself that this even goes on.
It addition the prosecutor in the Haditha case is now being charged.
Murtha should be as well, along with you, rounded up and thrown in Leavenworth for Sedition.

In addition you are all over the map, praising one soldier then accusing another of murder. Which is it Bruce? I see the Marines did not publicly denounce Chaney, and the Liar Cleland has your same agenda-Sedition.
You Dick and George all have a lot in common.

The pig is you for disseminating propaganda to undermine and tarnish the United States Marine Corps.

Now Bruce after some Prozac and a trip to a bondage club, you can go desecrate the Statue Of Iwa Jima, you crackhead.

Traitor. A pox on your House.

Yeah, you Jonathan, it is really a good thing when America gets idenitified with killing women and children now isn’t it?

You are a pig, a sick, disgusting pig Jonathan.

Also from Wikipedia:

[edit] 2005 Haditha massacre
Main article: Haditha killings
On 19 November 2005, 24 Iraqi noncombatants, including 11 women and children, were reported to have been killed by 12 Marines from 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines. The US military is investigating these claims,[7] and two captains and a lieutenant colonel have been relieved of duty.[8] Some allege the massacre was in retribution for an incident earlier in the day in which US Marine Lance Corporal Miguel Terrazas was killed in a roadside bomb attack on Marines from Kilo Company.[9] In August of 2006 a commission reviewing the killings found probable cause for charging the Marines.[10] The same day, one of the accused Marines sued Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) for libel because of Murtha’s characterization of the incident saying the Marines killed the civilians “in cold blood.”

From Wikipedia

Cleland served in the United States Army during the Vietnam War, attaining the rank of Captain. He was awarded the Silver Star and the Bronze Star for valorous action in combat, including during the Battle of Khe Sanh on April 4th, 1968.

This is opposed to a guy who stayed out of Vietnam via four deferments and a knee injury.

Oh, and the Grenade being Clelands?

No, actually. It was not. It was a case of accidental friendly fire.

Of course, it is much easier for a chickenhawk coward like you to lie about this sort of thing, then to actually check up on your own facts.

Oh, and while we are on about that, what about that Chambliss guy who attacked Max Cleland on homeland defense?

Comment by Bruce Gorton — August 23, 2007 @ 8:00 am

Max Cleland was a war hero who lost his limbs as a result of Viet Cong grenades, giving him the stature to gleefully taunt George Bush and Dick Cheney. “Where the hell were you in the Vietnam War?” Cleland responded to Cheney. “If you had gone to Vietnam like the rest of us, maybe you would have learned something about war.”

Then we learned Cleland was a victim only of his own clumsiness and had dropped the grenade on himself in Vietnam after stopping for a beer.

Bruce you gutless, femenized lying coward, Cleland dropped a grenade on himself, drunk in a non-combat situation.

The type of of coward you and your scumbag treanous buddies love to fawn over.

Go back to bath house Bruce.

If you look a little closer, Antonio, you’ll see that most sexual references here, homo and hetero, are made by lefties. ;)

Just a thought, because frankly I thought the Web was supposed to be about democratic participation, but sometimes it just seems like a big pissing contest.

I was raised more on the idea that this is not the fifth form at Saint Fanny’s.

I insult people quite frankly, because I am a short tempered liberal with enough of a sense of what is happening to not tolerate some little snot accusing his textbooks of being liberal, when his real problem is he doesn’t like school.

You will note the lack of sexual inuendo in my posts when I say that to you.

Waaah, waaah, waaah, my teacher gave me an F for my book report just because I didn’t read the book, waaah.

Kid, maybe you should stop trying to pretend that all sources have a liberal bias, and just accept that the facts do.

Should read

Oh, and while we are on about that, what about that Chambliss guy who attacked Max Cleland on homeland defense?

The real seperation comes not in the leaders, but the followers.

Joe

The Democrats are, in real terms, a centre right party. Its only the extreme rightwing philosophy of the Republicans that make them look sort of left.

Jonathan

Aaawe, you no likey when the left points out the foibles of your gods? The guy could fly a plane. Doesn’t make him any less of a crook.

Oh, and while we are on about that Chambliss guy who attacked Max Cleland on homeland defense?

You know Cleland, a triple amputee Vietnam war hero, and Chambliss, the guy who got four student deferments and a knee injury?