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White House claims it can keep e-mails secret.

Today in the “the latest effort by the Bush administration to expand the boundaries of government secrecy,” the Justice Department said that “records about missing White House e-mails are not subject to public disclosure. Administration lawyers detailed the legal position in a lawsuit trying to force the White House Office of Administration to reveal what it knows” about the disappearance of at least 5 million White House e-mails.



306 Responses to “White House claims it can keep e-mails secret.”

  1. JPark says:

    My catth name ith Theethee.


  2. Raven says:

    “jffy… mt me n th clk rm…”
    GWowee


  3. RUCerious says:

    So lemmee get this straight, the records ABOUT missing emails aren’t available, and of course the emails aren’t available, and none of the people who sent or received the emails aren’t available, and please go Fu(k Ourselves?> That about it?


  4. pete says:

    Move along now. Nothing to see here. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. We wouldn’t lie.


  5. Jake D. says:

    Too bad Pelosi took impeachment off the table, huh?


  6. pete says:

    Too bad Pelosi took impeachment off the table, huh?

    Comment by Jake D. — August 21, 2007 @ 10:38 pm

    Non sequitor.


  7. JPark says:

    Sure is, Jake. Seems like the Republican Congress is even more pathetic. They won’t even let the cancer that is Bush campaign with them but they will still let him teabag them with self-destructive verve when it comes to voting.


  8. JG says:

    I wonder how many of those emails are the same ones that ended up accidently going to Greg Palast..? If so, then they have been seen already by some members of Congress such as Rep. Conyers. One can hope.
    These guys in the WH are so utterly corrupt and without any integrity or honor. I don’t believe they are going to be held to account, but hopefully we can flush them out and undo some of the damage and stench.


  9. Tom3 says:

    The White House is violating Federal law.

    The Democrats cannot stop this.

    This is the end of the United States of America. The end of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

    Thanks a lot, Repukes. You killed our country.


  10. trueblue says:

    Would anyone have stood for this statement from the executive office in the early 70’s?

    What has America become in the past 30-odd years?

    It’s a tragedy that Americans put up with these daily assaults on our Constitution.


  11. Fan_of_Man says:

    ready…. FIRE…. aim……


  12. Tom3 says:

    This is the Constitutional Crisis that will destroy our great nation.

    Congress lacks the power, will- or otherwise, to stand up to Chimpy and demand that he follow the rule of law.

    Cheney cannot claim to be a fourth branch of government.

    Neither Chimpy nor Cheney can claim an umbrella of executive privilege to shield them from crimes they have committed.

    And they have committed crimes. No doubt about that now.


  13. Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR says:

    Would anyone have stood for this statement from the executive office in the early 70’s?

    What has America become in the past 30-odd years?

    It’s a tragedy that Americans put up with these daily assaults on our Constitution.

    Comment by trueblue

    Nobody except Fred Thompson, Nixon’s MOLE on the Watergate Committee…

    The Rapeublicans are TRAITORS to the USA, and WAR CRIMINALS..

    P.S. Glad you liked the joke. A classic line from “Sanford and Son”


  14. Frank J says:

    Can they get Hillary Clinton White House documents disclosed while they are at it?


  15. JPark says:

    Frankie, baaaahhhhhhh


  16. ForTruth says:

  17. pete says:

    Can they get Hillary Clinton White House documents disclosed while they are at it?

    Comment by Frank J — August 21, 2007 @ 10:49 pm

    Off topic. Next!


  18. ForTruth says:

    I want to see Hillary naked…


  19. VerbalKint says:

    Can they get Hillary Clinton White House documents disclosed while they are at it?
    Comment by Frank J — August 21, 2007 @ 10:49 pm

    Sure, Frank, that sounds like a fair trade. You get a little dirt on Hillary, and American patriots get mountains of proof of massive crimes perpetrated by the Bush administration.


  20. Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR says:

    Can they get Hillary Clinton White House documents disclosed while they are at it?

    Comment by Frank J

    GREAT IDEA!!

    And ALSO the records of Iran/Contra TRAITORS Reagan and Bush Sr.

    Junior sealed them after 9/11…

    Let’s DO it!!!

    BRING IT ON!!!


  21. Tom3 says:

    Frank J is an idiot.

    He doesn’t get it.

    PRESIDENT Hillary is going to inherit all those extra powers Chimpy stole. And Vice President Obama will inherit all those extra powers Cheney stole.

    And they’re going to kick your pasty Repuke fascist ass, Frankie.


  22. ForTruth says:

    I’m afraid the boys in the WH are gonna stonewall to the end, and it appears we have no one willing to really stand up to them. I do look ahead now, to the concern of dealing with the aftermath of this Presidency.


  23. Zooey says:

    Hey, cool.

    The Dem president can keep all kinds of big nasty secrets, and the Repubs won’t mind at all.


  24. JPark says:

    The Dem elected in ‘08 IS going to have a lot of toys, eh?


  25. Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR says:

    Frank J is an idiot.

    He doesn’t get it.

    PRESIDENT Hillary is going to inherit all those extra powers Chimpy stole. And Vice President Obama will inherit all those extra powers Cheney stole.

    And they’re going to kick your pasty Repuke fascist ass, Frankie.

    Comment by Tom3

    AND they are going to RESCIND Shrubbie’s EXECUTIVE ORDER which SEALED the records of Iran/Contra TRAITOR Reagan and Bush Sr.,

    therby nullifying the Presidential Records Act of 1978, established by Congress in order to prevent another “nixon”.

    We have SEEN the result of their “state secret” BS…


  26. Tom3 says:

    Payback’s a beeyotch, Frankie.


  27. Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR says:

    I want to see Hillary naked…

    Comment by ForTruth — August 21, 2007

    I’ve been looking for pics of Martha Stewart…


  28. Zooey says:

    I want to see Hillary naked…
    Comment by ForTruth — August 21, 2007

    I’ve been looking for pics of Martha Stewart…
    Comment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR — August 21, 2007 @ 11:04 pm

    You guys have weird taste. :D


  29. Frank J says:

    And with Hillary in there Al Qaeda will benefit greatly as they did under her reprobate husband.


  30. DutchHenry says:

    Look after they leave the WH the congress can still go after these criminals with a special prosecutor.Just because they leave office doesn’t means the crimes against Americans and the constitution leave with them.


  31. pete says:

    And with Hillary in there Al Qaeda will benefit greatly as they did under her reprobate husband.

    Comment by Frank J — August 21, 2007 @ 11:06 pm

    The story deals with the current criminals in the White House. Next!


  32. JPark says:

    I always liked Marla Hooch. She was hot.


  33. JPark says:

    Don’t bother with Frankie. He is just jealous of Monica.


  34. Tom3 says:

    Frankie the Fascist is wrong as usual.

    Bill Clinton was never on probation.

    Now Chimpy, that’s another story…


  35. pete says:

    Jane Russell
    Hubba, hubba.


  36. Zooey says:

    Jane Russell
    Hubba, hubba.
    Comment by pete — August 21, 2007 @ 11:10 pm

    You can’t be that old!


  37. trueblue says:

    Wow!
    This thread has jumped the tracks big time.

    I like it!

    :)


  38. trueblue says:

    A classic line from “Sanford and Son”

    Comment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR

    It was funny as all get out. Thanks.
    :)


  39. Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR says:

    And with Hillary in there Al Qaeda will benefit greatly as they did under her reprobate husband.

    Comment by Frank J

    Al. Queda has benefitted GREATLY from George W. MORON.

    We attacked Iraq, Al Queda is STRONGER THAN EVER.

    And Bush SAUDI OIL TERRORIST BUDDIES are the ones FINANCING Al Queda.

    Such TRAITORS, just like YOU…


  40. Zooey says:

    Oh for f*ck’s sake, Frank. Call Monica, maybe she’ll give you a mercy s*ck.


  41. Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR says:

    You guys have weird taste. :D

    Comment by Zooey — August 21, 2007

    Well, if you are Mistress Z also, that’s my fantasy with Martha.

    “It’s a BAD thing!!!”


  42. Maddie says:

    You know NANCY can be IMPEACHED for not following throught on her OATH OF OFFICE – right?


  43. Zooey says:

    Well, if you are Mistress Z also, that’s my fantasy with Martha.
    “It’s a BAD thing!!!”
    Comment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR — August 21, 2007 @ 11:25 pm

    Heh. I am Mistress Z. Usually on the weekends. :)


  44. ronjazz says:

    You know NANCY can be IMPEACHED for not following throught on her OATH OF OFFICE – right?

    Comment by Maddie — August 21, 2007 @ 11:28 pm

    ?


  45. Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR says:

    Well, if you are Mistress Z also, that’s my fantasy with Martha.
    “It’s a BAD thing!!!”
    Comment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR — August 21, 2007 @ 11:25 pm

    Heh. I am Mistress Z. Usually on the weekends. :)

    Can you put me in touch with Martha??? :-)


  46. Zooey says:

    Can you put me in touch with Martha??? :-)
    Comment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR — August 21, 2007 @ 11:35 pm

    I’ll do my best. :-D


  47. Marcus Aurelius says:

    Can you put me in touch with Martha??? :-)
    Comment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR — August 21, 2007 @ 11:35 pm

    I’ll do my best. :-D

    Comment by Zooey — August 21, 2007 @ 11:43 pm

    Read it again, Z – he said “Martha”, not “Murtha”.


  48. Marcus Aurelius says:

    Did my last comment kill this thread, or did everybody get all hot and bothered by the thought of mature women, and take a break to rub one off?


  49. Zooey says:

    Did my last comment kill this thread, or did everybody get all hot and bothered by the thought of mature women, and take a break to rub one off?
    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 21, 2007 @ 11:59 pm

    Well…..I don’t know about anyone else, but I was trying to call Martha.

    :-D


  50. Marcus Aurelius says:

  51. Crazy says:

    What a surprise! The fox watching the hen house!

    What’s next??? Congress, the people are WATCHING YOU!


  52. bilbogaggins says:

    George is King and that’s all there is to it. If you don’t like it, lump it.


  53. Briseadh na Faire says:

    Worth Reading:

    Monday, August 20th, 2007
    History Doesn’t Impeach, but it Will Judge …by Dan DeWalt

    One of the more ridiculous utterances coming from the mouths of Democrats who refuse to defend the Constitution and hold the Bush administration accountable is that “History will impeach George Bush” so they won’t have to. Vermont’s Peter Welch has trotted out this phrase, but if he would take a moment to read some history, he would understand that he has it exactly backwards.

    Louis Fisher, citing the 1803 case of Stuart v. Laird in his American Constitutional Law states: “The boundaries between the three branches of government are also strongly affected by the role of custom and acquiescence. When one branch engages in a certain practice and the other branches acquiesce, the practice gains legitimacy and can fix the meaning of the Constitution.”

    In a 1952 ruling, the U.S. Supreme Court declared unconstitutional President Truman’s attempt to take national control of steel mills in order to avert a strike. When they wrote their opinions, the justices took pains to explain how they came to their decisions. And one factor which figured prominently was whether the Congress had taken action to counter the President, or if they had acquiesced and allowed a precedent to be set.

    Justice Jackson, in his opinion concurring with the majority put it this way: Therefore congressional inertia, indifference or quiescence may sometimes, at least as a practical matter, enable, if not invite, measures on independent presidential responsibility. In this area, any actual test of power is likely to depend on the imperatives of events and contemporary imponderables rather than on abstract theories of law.

    Justice Frankfurter also addressed this issue in the same ruling: The Constitution is a framework for government. Therefore the way the framework has consistently operated fairly establishes that it has operated according to its true nature. Deeply embedded traditional ways of conducting government cannot supplant the Constitution or legislation, but they give meaning to the words of a text or supply them. It is an inadmissibly narrow conception of American constitutional law to confine it to the words of the Constitution and to disregard the gloss which life has written upon them. In short, a systematic, unbroken, executive practice, long pursued to the knowledge of the Congress and never before questioned, engaged in by Presidents who have also sworn to uphold the Constitution, making as it were such exercise of power part of the structure of our government, may be treated as a gloss on “executive Power” vested in the President by [sec.] 1 of Art. II.

    Frankfurter also saw fit to include this warning: The accretion of dangerous power does not come in a day. It does come, however slowly, from the generative force of unchecked disregard of the restrictions that fence in even the most disinterested assertion of authority.

    Not only are Welch and his fellow travelers ignoring the Bush administration’s crimes and constitutional over-reaching, they are establishing a precedent of acquiescence that will make it even harder for a future Congress with backbone (should that ever occur) to hold the next runaway executive branch to account.

    We are facing a severe perversion of our Democracy. The Republicans have criminalized the executive branch. The Democrats, rather than fighting to protect the Constitution (or represent the will of the nation in ending the Iraq occupation), are willing actors in the drama that is unfolding. Regaining power matters above all else. And they have cynically decided that the best way to achieve power is to ride the disintegration of the Bush administration to the bitter end, reaping the political benefits and ignoring the “collateral damage” of lives and constitutional damage that the next seventeen months will bring.

    History will judge, not impeach. And the Congress, as well as the President will be condemned for leading the country down such a disastrous and dishonorable path.

    What will History have to say about the American people? Will we too be condemned for our inaction? Or will we take action now and be the only bright footnote in this dismal narrative?

    Dan DeWalt is a woodworker and selectboard member in the town of Newfane, Vermont, and the author of a successful town resolution calling for the impeachment of President Bush.

    http://www.michaelmoore.com/mustread/index.php?id=908


  54. bilbogaggins says:

    “And with Hillary in there Al Qaeda will benefit greatly as they did under her reprobate husband.
    Comment by Frank J “

    Couldn’t benefit any more than they did with Bush.

    1) Bush ignores PTB that Osama was going to strike in America with airplanes.
    2) Osama strikes and Bush flies all his relatives out of the US the day after.
    3) They have Osama at Tora Bora and Bush calls off the dogs.
    4) Bush is no longer interested in Osama
    5) Bush invades Iraq, thereby making lots of new recruits for al Queda.

    So tell me Francine, what did Clinton do to enable Osama?


  55. Marcus Aurelius says:

    After the big economic collapse, while everyone is thinking clearly, we need several Constitutional ammendments to keep this crap from happening again. Here are a few suggestions:

    1. A sunshine amendment: The only secrets the government may keep are the position and strength of our forces, the identities and locations of our spies, and the extent of our military technologies. This ammendment would include a ban on Court ordered non-disclosure settlements.

    2. Military spending will not exceed 10% of the Federal Budget, other than in time of war, in which case it may be increased to 33%

    3. The right of Habeas Corpus will not be infringed.

    4. US laws will cover anyone in the custody of the US government.

    Anybody want anything else while we’re at it?


  56. Jackie says:

    As the criminal White House Mafia continues the public blames the Democrats. Elected officials work for the American people. If Americans don’t like the US laws broken by the White House we can remove the President and Vice President. Pelosi is an employee she works for the people. Americans act like Bush is a King who can’t be removed the the people. We don’t need officials to get Bush/Cheney out of office, we can do it ourselves. Remember the election of the President well fire him. If Americans acted like they do now Nixon would have never had to resign. Even Chancellor Merkel and President Sarkozy are giving Bush orders to fix the Stock Market problem yet Americans sit back and do nothing but complain. As millions lose their homes, jobs, pensions and health care all that’s done is blame someone else. You want these crimes to end look in the mirror to see the person who can stop it right now. 5 more soldiers died today in Iraq while Americans sit back and complained.


  57. Marcus Aurelius says:

    oh yeah:

    5. An elected public official, having been duly convicted of a crime or misdemeanor, will recieve 4X the penalty of a private citizen convicted of the same crime.

    6. The POTUS may not pardon an elected or appointed government official.


  58. I'm a TP Moonbat says:

    O h Dems we cry out to you! Save US!
    I am a victim. Save me from myself.

    Al Gore the saviour of our planet you must redeem our planet.
    —————————————————-
    Please recycle Thanks


  59. Marcus Aurelius says:

    O h Dems we cry out to you! Save US!
    I am a victim. Save me from myself.

    Al Gore the saviour of our planet you must redeem our planet.
    —————————————————-
    Please recycle Thanks

    Comment by I’m a TP Moonbat — August 22, 2007 @ 12:23 am

    How many hits of acid did you drop?


  60. I'm a TP Moonbat says:

    Organic mushrooms only from Seattle man.


  61. I'm a TP Moonbat says:

    Al Gore Jr says stay organic so you won’t get busted.


  62. Marcus Aurelius says:

    Organic mushrooms only from Seattle man.

    Comment by I’m a TP Moonbat — August 22, 2007 @ 12:29 am

    You’d have to be in FL or TX to get those mushrooms. Poseur.


  63. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Organic mushrooms only from Seattle man.

    Comment by I’m a TP Moonbat — August 22, 2007 @ 12:29 am

    Try making “a point”. I swear, you’ll like yourself better in the morning.


  64. james k. sayre says:

    The Gettybush Address

    Four score and seven million lost Emails ago, our forebushers brought forth on this continent a new regime, conceived in lunacy and dedicated to the proposition that all Bush crime family members are created equal.

    Now we are engaged in a great civil discourse, testing whether that regime or any regime, so constipated and so daffy, can long endure…

    (repeated for your reading pleasure…)


  65. Left Coast Mike says:

    You’d have to be in FL or TX to get those mushrooms. Poseur.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:31 am

    Not hardly my friend…we have our own in the great northwest. Just another secret we don’t let out.


  66. Jason M. Hendler says:

    Congressional approval at all time looooooowwww:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293890,00.html

    By all means, keep holding hearings and launching investigations. With your numbers this low, Pres. Bush’s upcoming vetoes will hold, as he will be seen as more responsible. I can’t imagine what the Dem Congress’s approval numbers will sink to then.


  67. Bob says:

    Seattle mushrooms grown from a kit man – High Times style.
    come on dude get with it. Totally organic:)


  68. Left Coast Mike says:

    Congressional approval at all time looooooowwww:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293890,00.html

    Consider the source…


  69. Lescoeurs says:

    The great crime is no longer being committed by the thugs in the White House. That is a given. The greater crime is being committed by the leadership which has shirked its sworn commitment to uphold the Constitution.


  70. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    I can’t imagine what the Dem Congress’s approval numbers will sink to then.

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 22, 2007 @ 12:36 am

    And I can’t imagine why you think you’re making a valid point.

    Fox News? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…


  71. Left Coast Mike says:

    Seattle mushrooms grown from a kit man – High Times style.
    come on dude get with it. Totally organic:)

    Comment by Bob — August 22, 2007 @

    No kits necessary…just find a pasture or a wood pile depending on the spieces,


  72. Marcus Aurelius says:

    Congressional approval at all time looooooowwww:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293890,00.html

    By all means, keep holding hearings and launching investigations. With your numbers this low, Pres. Bush’s upcoming vetoes will hold, as he will be seen as more responsible. I can’t imagine what the Dem Congress’s approval numbers will sink to then.

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 22, 2007 @ 12:36 am

    Dude – I think you’ve got some spinach or something caught in your teeth.


  73. Marcus Aurelius says:

    If the White House didn’t protect our nation’s secrets the traitors of the Left would tell terrorists and alKaida!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:41 am

    I’ll bet you have man tits.


  74. upside00 says:

    If the White House didn’t protect our nation’s secrets the traitors of the Left would tell terrorists and alKaida!
    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:41 am

    I’ll bet you have man tits.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:45 am

    That is only mr p/doggie dung. He is starting one of his infamous rants, from the looks of post #73. Beware of the flying Troll dung!


  75. shane says:

    On the plus side, we can move to any country we choose now and live under less fascism.


  76. Marcus Aurelius says:

    I’ll bet you have man tits.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:45 am

    I’ll bet you have a vag.

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:47 am

    I had your mamma’s, but it was spoiled, so I kicked it to the trash where it belongs.


  77. shane says:

    I can’t imagine what the Dem Congress’s approval numbers will sink to then.

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 22, 2007 @ 12:36 am

    If they’re worried about numbers they should start impeachment proceeding and they will soar through the roof.


  78. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Scram, troll!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:48 am

    So much self importance, yet still so little to say…


  79. Marcus Aurelius says:

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:48 am

    Scram, troll!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:48 am

    I might be an ogre, but I ain’t no troll. BTW: I’ll bet you’ve got a real sweet mouth.


  80. shane says:

    Dude – I think you’ve got some spinach or something caught in your teeth.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:44 am

    That’s not spinach.


  81. Marcus Aurelius says:

    Keep lying to yourself, moonbat.

    by the way:

    **squirt**
    in your eye!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:51 am

    You’re really cute when you’re mad (that’s all of the time). Too bad you’re always an air-head.


  82. shane says:

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:41 am

    I’ll bet you have man tits.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:45 am

    He wears a manssiere and still sags.


  83. shane says:

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:47 am

    I had your mamma’s, but it was spoiled, so I kicked it to the trash where it belongs.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:48 am

    You get what you pay for.


  84. Marcus Aurelius says:

    Comment by shane — August 22, 2007 @ 12:55 am

    These closet-gay rethugs get really upset when the posts get close to the truth.


  85. shane says:

    Fuk You.

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:50 am

    How do you like your fascism?


  86. Marcus Aurelius says:

    My work here i done – for today. G’night Shane and RoS. It’s been fun.


  87. shane says:

    These closet-gay rethugs get really upset when the posts get close to the truth.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:56 am

    Really gay or straight they couldn’t find a partner, no wonder they’re confused.


  88. shane says:

    Night Marcus, thanks for the contribution.


  89. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    *squirt* *squirt* *squirt* *squirt*

    SPLASH!!!!!!!!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 1:05 am

    Does anyone OTHER than Makarios have any idea what this means?

    “Incoherent” is not a statement.


  90. shane says:

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 1:05 am

    Does anyone OTHER than Makarios have any idea what this means?

    “Incoherent” is not a statement.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 22, 2007 @ 1:14 am

    Does anybody other than the Mackeral CARE?


  91. upside00 says:

    Does anybody other than the Mackeral CARE?

    Comment by shane — August 22, 2007 @ 1:17 am

    That is just mr p going off the deep end again. When thathappens, NOTHING makes any sense.


  92. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    When your husband kisses you, you can tell him it is a new brand!!!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 1:27 am

    Again, what the hell is he talking about???


  93. upside00 says:

    Again, what the hell is he talking about???

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 22, 2007 @ 1:29 am

    No one knows, including mr p.


  94. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Shane knows.

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 1:32 am

    Shane? Do you understand this?


  95. shane says:

    Shane knows.

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 1:32 am

    Shane? Do you understand this?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 22, 2007 @ 1:33 am

    Absolutely NOT and he better shut up about my family.


  96. shane says:

    Hey mackeral, you’ll be drafted and fighting this bullshit “war” before you and your fascist friends destroy liberal blogging.


  97. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Absolutely NOT and he better shut up about my family.

    Comment by shane — August 22, 2007 @ 1:35 am

    Perhaps we should ask him to articulate it, so we can all share the joke.


  98. upside00 says:

    Perhaps we should ask him to articulate it, so we can all share the joke.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 22, 2007 @ 1:42 am

    The joke is in his Cheeto-stained underwear.


  99. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    The joke is in his Cheeto-stained underwear.

    Comment by upside00 — August 22, 2007 @ 1:44 am

    Are you sure that’s a Cheeto stain?


  100. Sonny says:

  101. Sonny Black says:

    Let’s put it this way: Shane’s eye is sealed shut right now.


  102. Sonny Black says:

    What is up my man!


  103. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Comment by Sonny Black — August 22, 2007 @ 2:07 am

    Not quite sure why dead mafioi are posting here, but hey, it’s TP!

    Anything goes.

    As far as the meaning of the Mackerel’s comment, he claims he’s a big boy. Let him explain his own remark, in his own words.


  104. Sonny Black says:

    I recieved a message from Dr. Dog. He’s coming back soon.


  105. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    I recieved a message from Dr. Dog. He’s coming back soon.

    Comment by Sonny Black — August 22, 2007 @ 2:11 am

    Unfortunately, people will laugh at him all over again.


  106. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    But I’ll be checking in periodically to make sure the libs don’t get out of hand.

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 2:16 am

    Yeah, we’re all beat up… from laughing so hard.

    Care to explain your remark to Shane, in your own words?


  107. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Shane knows perfectly well, she’s a real pro!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 2:19 am

    I already asked Shane. She already said she didn’t understand it either.

    Now I’m asking you, more than once.

    Can’t you explain your own remark? That’s pretty sad…


  108. Sonny Black says:

    Big Mak,

    I see TROS is violating every single one of his rules. Libs want to write rules for everybody else but exempt themselvs from them.

    Liberals hate the United States, but I found it hilarious when Hillary actually praised the success of the surge. She’s right but I wonder if she just killed her chances at gaining the Libtard Nomination.

    I like your blog, man. It’s a great lay out.

    SB


  109. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    All I’ve done is politely ask the Mackerel what he meant. His comment didn’t make any sense. I’m trying to understand this, but he apparently can’t explain his own words. What did he mean?


  110. Sonny Black says:

    Obama’s wife has bigger balls than Obama has.


  111. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Obama’s wife has bigger balls than Obama has.

    Comment by Sonny Black — August 22, 2007 @ 2:25 am

    This is completely meaningless.


  112. Sonny Black says:

    Big Mak explained it pretty well. You’re just too dense to figure it out.


  113. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Big Mak explained it pretty well. You’re just too dense to figure it out.

    Comment by Sonny Black — August 22, 2007 @ 2:26 am

    Actually, he never did, and now you’re resorting to petty insults.

    Is the Mack afraid to explain it? Is he embarrassed to own his own words? Was it supposed to be a joke? If I am “too dense”, why doesn’t he explain so I can get the joke too?


  114. Sonny Red says:

    This is completely meaningless.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    A candidate’s wife has bigger nuts than the candidate himself and you think it’s meaningless?

    Keep reading TP. You’re brainwashed.


  115. Sonny Red says:

    Is the Mack afraid to explain it? Is he embarrassed to own his own words? Was it supposed to be a joke? If I am “too dense”, why doesn’t he explain so I can get the joke too?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    This is completely meaningless.

    It is just filler. TROS must be getting paid by the word.


  116. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    A candidate’s wife has bigger nuts than the candidate himself and you think it’s meaningless?

    Keep reading TP. You’re brainwashed.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:30 am

    How is that physiologically possible? Are you referring to her ovaries?


  117. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    It is just filler. TROS must be getting paid by the word.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:31 am

    Nah, I just want Makarios to explain his comment, and he refuses to do so. Why?


  118. Sonny Red says:

    How is that physiologically possible? Are you referring to her ovaries?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    I think Black is referring to Mrs. Obama’s large nut sack, and Obama’s tiny one.


  119. Sonny Red says:

    Nah, I just want Makarios to explain his comment, and he refuses to do so. Why?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Everybody gets the joke but you. Why are you so dense?


  120. had enough says:

    I just heard on the Bernie Ward Show, kgo.com, from a caller about the failed mortgages.. this caller stated:

    The at risk loans were bundled, then sold to wall street who then resold them to pension holders who are left holding the bag… of faulty loans. Our pensions may be at BIG risk.


  121. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    I think Black is referring to Mrs. Obama’s large nut sack, and Obama’s tiny one.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:35 am

    How is that possible? Please explain it clearly.


  122. Sonny Red says:

    I just heard on the Bernie Ward Show

    Comment by had enough

    That’s your problem. Why are you listening to that lard ass?


  123. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Everybody gets the joke but you. Why are you so dense?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:36 am

    Why can’t Mack explain his own words? He’s the only one who really knows what he meant. Shane already said she didn’t understand it.

    Was meant to be a joke? An insult? What did it mean?


  124. Sonny Red says:

    How is that possible? Please explain it clearly.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Please explain why you don’t understand the comment.


  125. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Why are you listening to that lard ass?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:38 am

    Again, an insult. Why?


  126. Sonny Red says:

    Why can’t Mack explain his own words? He’s the only one who really knows what he meant. Shane already said she didn’t understand it.

    Was meant to be a joke? An insult? What did it mean?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    We’re all laughing at you right now.


  127. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    *squirt* *squirt* *squirt* *squirt*

    SPLASH!!!!!!!!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 1:05 am

    THAT’s the original comment. What could it mean?


  128. Sonny Red says:

    Again, an insult. Why?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity —

    It’s the truth. Bernie Ward is a lard ass piece of sh!t.


  129. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    We’re all laughing at you right now.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:40 am

    Why? Plese explain.


  130. Sonny Red says:

    THAT’s the original comment. What could it mean?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    You tell me what you think it means.


  131. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Bernie Ward is a lard ass piece of sh!t.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:40 am

    That’s such an incredibly inarticulate statement.

    “Lard ass piece of sh*t”? What could that possibly mean?


  132. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    You tell me what you think it means.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:41 am

    I have no idea. i didn’t make the comment. Makarios did. I’ve repeatedly asked him to explain, and he won’t.

    They’re not my words. They’re his. Makarios, what did you mean?


  133. Sonny Red says:

    Bernie Ward needs to go on a crash diet or he needs bariatric surgery. He’s fatter than sh!t.


  134. Sonny Red says:

    I have no idea. i didn’t make the comment.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    I know it probably hurts but try thinking it through and getting back to me. What do you think it means?


  135. Sonny Red says:

    “Lard ass piece of sh*t”? What could that possibly mean?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    You tell me.


  136. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    What do you think it means?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:44 am

    I’ve told you. It doesn’t appear to mean anything.

    Squirt** squirt** squirt** SPLASH?

    No noun, no verb, no subject, no object. It appears to be nonsense.

    If Makarios knows what he meant, why doesn’t he just clarify it?


  137. Sonny Red says:

    If Makarios knows what he meant, why doesn’t he just clarify it?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Are you really this stupid?


  138. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    What do you think it means?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:44 am

    Again, you make a cooment that seems to be quite irrational. I ask for clairifcation, and you ask me what I think it means.

    Again, I didn’t make the comment. Is Mr Ward really a piece of excrement? How is this possible? And what is a “lard ass”???


  139. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Are you really this stupid?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:49 am

    Why can’t Makarios explain his words?

    And do you feel some need to insult me? Why?


  140. upside00 says:

    If Makarios knows what he meant, why doesn’t he just clarify it?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 22, 2007 @ 2:47 am

    It’s all the same troll (mr. p), and beginning its late night meth rants. mr. p has a LOT of issues!


  141. Sonny Red says:

    What do you mean by “irrational”?

    What do you mean by “clairification”?

    What do you mean by it not being possible that Bernie Ward is a piece of sh!t?

    How do you not know what “lard ass” means?


  142. Sonny Red says:

    Why can’t Makarios explain his words?

    And do you feel some need to insult me? Why?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    He already did. Why are you too stupid to understand?

    I’m not insulting you. You are really dumb. It’s the truth.



  143. upside00 says:

    upside = TROS

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:53 am

    Ya think?


  144. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    How do you not know what “lard ass” means?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:51 am

    It sometimes gets used as an insult towards people w/ weight problems. Why do you feel a need to insult Bernie Ward, or did you mean someting else?

    How could Bernnie be a piece of sh*t? He’s a living, breathing human being. “Pieces of sh*t” aren’t alive.

    What do you mean by “irrational”?

    I can’t see what Makarios means. It appears he was making a statement of some sort, but I can’t beging to understand it. Why won’t he just explain it?

    What do you mean by “clairification”?

    Why won’t he just explain it?


  145. upside00 says:

    REoS,

    It has no logic, too much meth, maybe?


  146. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    He already did. Why are you too stupid to understand?

    I’m not insulting you. You are really dumb. It’s the truth.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:52 am

    He did not. I have reread this thread and Makarios has not explained his own words. Why won’t he just explain what he meant?

    How am I dumb? Please explain?


  147. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    t has no logic, too much meth, maybe?

    Comment by upside00 — August 22, 2007 @ 2:56 am

    I don’t know, upside. That’s why I keep asking makarios to explain his own words.


  148. Sonny Red says:

    Ya think?

    Comment by upside00

    Yes.

    You and TROS are sockpuppets.


  149. Sonny Red says:

    How am I dumb? Please explain?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    You have a very low intelligence.


  150. upside00 says:

    You and TROS are sockpuppets.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:58 am

    Ya think? Why? Got proof?


  151. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    You have a very low intelligence.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:58 am

    And you base this opinion on what?


  152. Sonny Red says:

    Ya think? Why? Got proof?

    Comment by upside00

    Yes.

    You and TROS are trolls.

    All trolls are one.


  153. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    You and TROS are sockpuppets.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:58 am

    Sockpuppets? What does THAT mean?


  154. Sonny Red says:

    And you base this opinion on what?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Your dumb remarks.


  155. Sonny Red says:

    Sockpuppets? What does THAT mean?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    What do you think it means?


  156. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    All trolls are one.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:00 am

    What does that mean?


  157. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    What do you think it means?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:01 am

    AS far as i can tell, it doesn’t make sense. Again, that’s why I asked.


  158. Sonny Red says:

    What does that mean?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    What do you think it means?


  159. Sonny Red says:

    AS far as i can tell, it doesn’t make sense. Again, that’s why I asked.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    What doesn’t make sense? Please explain in detail.


  160. upside00 says:

    All trolls are one.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:00 am

    Then, you being a troll, should know what one is.


  161. Sonny Red says:

    Then, you being a troll, should know what one is.

    Comment by upside00

    What does that mean?


  162. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Your dumb remarks.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:00 am

    Which remarks are you referring to, and why are they dumb? This whole thing started w/ Makarios’ comment. He refuses to explain it.

    Then we had “Bernie Ward is a piece of sh*t”…

    And Obama’s wife magically has “Balls bigger than her husband”…

    And I’m the stupid one? Please explain.


  163. Sonny Red says:

    And Obama’s wife magically has “Balls bigger than her husband”…

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    What do you mean by “magically”? Please explain.


  164. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    What do you think it means?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:02 am

    I don’t know. I don’t assume to understand your statements. Much like makarios, you keep saying things that don’t make any snese, but refuse to explain what you meant. And now you’re just asking me what i mean when i say i don’t understand statement’s like

    “Bernie Ward is a piece of sh*t”, or Obama’s wife has bigger balls”.

    What could you possibly mean by those statements? Can’t you articulate your own words?


  165. Sonny Red says:

    What could you possibly mean by those statements? Can’t you articulate your own words?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    That’s why I’m asking you to explain what you mean. Can you?


  166. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    What do you mean by “magically”? Please explain.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:06 am

    Women don’t have testicles, yet Sonny Black stated “Obama’s wife has bigger balls than Obama has.” How is this possible? Is it magic? Is she a freak of nature? What did Sonny Black mean?


  167. Sonny Red says:

    How is this possible? Is it magic? Is she a freak of nature? What did Sonny Black mean?

    Comment by TROS

    What do you mean? Please explain.


  168. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    That’s why I’m asking you to explain what you mean. Can you?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:08 am

    I asked how could a living, breathing human being such as Bernie Ward be a “piece of sh*t”. It doesn’t make sense. Can you explain it?


  169. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    What do you mean? Please explain.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:10 am

    Women don’t have testicles, yet Sonny Black stated Obama’s wife had bigger balls than Obama. How can this be?


  170. Sonny Red says:

    I asked how could a living, breathing human being such as Bernie Ward be a “piece of sh*t”. It doesn’t make sense. Can you explain it?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    What doesn’t make sense?


  171. upside00 says:

    TRoS,

    You have mr p under control. Later!!


  172. Sonny Red says:

    Women don’t have testicles, yet Sonny Black stated Obama’s wife had bigger balls than Obama. How can this be?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Your comment doesn’t make any sense. How can this be?


  173. Sonny Red says:

    TROS is talking to himself.


  174. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    What doesn’t make sense?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:12 am

    A human being is alive. Excrement is not. The statement makes no sense. Can Sonny explain what he meant? if Sonny has a position to state politcally, this a good forum for it, but that statement makes no sense.


  175. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    TROS is talking to himself.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:13 am

    I’m talking to you.


  176. upside00 says:

    TROS is talking to himself.
    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:13 am

    What does that mean? Please explain.


  177. Sonny Red says:

    A human being is alive. Excrement is not. The statement makes no sense. Can Sonny explain what he meant? if Sonny has a position to state politcally, this a good forum for it, but that statement makes no sense.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    How can you not know what the term “piece of shit” means?


  178. Sonny Red says:

    What does that mean? Please explain.

    Comment by upside00

    You and tros are the same person. Tros is talking to itself.


  179. Sonny Red says:

    I’m talking to you.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    You also responded to yourself as upside.


  180. upside00 says:

    You and tros are the same person. Tros is talking to itself.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:15 am

    Are you sure?


  181. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    How can you not know what the term “piece of shit” means?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:15 am

    “piece of shit” refers to excrement. It is inanimate. Bernie Ward is alive.
    Bernie cannot be a “piece of sh*t”. The statement makes no sense.


  182. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    You also responded to yourself as upside.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:16 am

    I’m not upside. I have no idea who upside is.


  183. Sonny Red says:

    Are you sure?

    Comment by upside00

    Are you?


  184. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    KKK test KKK

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:16 am

    Makerel… are you going to explain your comment, finally?


  185. Sonny Red says:

    “piece of shit” refers to excrement. It is inanimate. Bernie Ward is alive.
    Bernie cannot be a “piece of sh*t”. The statement makes no sense.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Piece of shit also refers to a scumbag like Bernie Ward. And some think that lard ass is inanimate. What do you not understand, stupid?


  186. upside00 says:

    Are you?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:17 am

    More than you are.


  187. Bruce Gorton says:

    As amusing as it is to tie Sonny Red up in his own stupidity, can we please return to the topic?


  188. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Are you sure?

    Comment by upside00

    Are you me, upside? And if you are me, then who am I?


  189. Sonny Red says:

    are you going to explain your comment, finally?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    It was already explained. You’re just too stupid to undertand the joke.


  190. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    can we please return to the topic?

    Comment by Bruce Gorton — August 22, 2007 @ 3:19 am

    Return to the topic? Bruce, ya haven’t been here all night.


  191. upside00 says:

    Are you me, upside? And if you are me, then who am I?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 22, 2007 @ 3:19 am

    Are you the Egg man? Coo CooCaChoo?


  192. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    It was already explained. You’re just too stupid to undertand the joke.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:20 am

    Nope, never was.


  193. Sonny Red says:

    More than you are.

    Comment by upside00

    You, TROS and Bruce are one.


  194. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Coo CooCaChoo?

    Comment by upside00 — August 22, 2007 @ 3:20 am

    Scooby doobie do??


  195. Bruce Gorton says:

    Sonny Red

    Actually, we have enough brains to recognise that you haven’t posted a single argument on this thread, all you have done is launch an irrational ad-hominem attack against Bernie Ward, without even managing to back it up.

    You sir, to put it on your level, are a doo-doo head.


  196. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    You, TROS and Bruce are one.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:21 am

    We are????


  197. Sonny Red says:

    Nope, never was.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Quite a few times. You just don’t get it because you’re stupid.


  198. upside00 says:

    Why won’t TP let me explain what I meant?

    Comment by The Walrus — August 22, 2007 @ 3:21 am

    You didn’t ask nicely!!!


  199. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Quite a few times. You just don’t get it because you’re stupid.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:22 am

    Nope!!!!


  200. Bruce Gorton says:

    Sonny Red

    Hardly. We don’t agree on anything, and your argumentative style merely demonstrates that a monkey on crack has a better grasp of the issues then you do.


  201. Sonny Red says:

    Sonny Red

    Actually, we have enough brains to recognise

    Comment by Bruce Gorton

    You have three heads, but I don’t think you have much brain.


  202. Bruce Gorton says:

    Read everything instead of anything.


  203. Sonny Red says:

    We don’t agree on anything,

    Comment by Bruce Gorton

    What does that mean? Please explain in full detail.


  204. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    You have three heads, but I don’t think you have much brain.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:23 am

    Huh??? three heads?? hey, upside, bruce, are you all me?


  205. Sonny Red says:

    Huh??? three heads?? hey, upside, bruce, are you all me?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    TROS is talking to itself.


  206. upside00 says:

    Are you me, upside? And if you are me, then who am I?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 22, 2007 @ 3:19 am

    If you are me and I am you, then who are we?


  207. Bruce Gorton says:

    Sonny Red

    Awe, is the poor widdle righty unable to come up with an argument?

    Go home to your mommy kid, you have come onto this board and simply exposed your lack of anything resembling a brain.


  208. Sonny Red says:

    Go home to your mommy kid, you have come onto this board and simply exposed your lack of anything resembling a brain.

    Comment by Bruce Gorton

    I am older than you. Please explain what you mean.


  209. upside00 says:

    Huh??? three heads?? hey, upside, bruce, are you all me?
    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    I don’t know, are we? What do you think, Bruce?


  210. Bruce Gorton says:

    The Republic of Stupidity

    I sincerely doubt it.

    Unless… Hey, are we maybe the holy trinity to this kid? You know, three seperate entities which are really all God?


  211. Sonny Red says:

    Tros has 4 browsers open posting back and forth to itself. It is quite fascinating to watch this type of sickness firsthand.


  212. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    I gotta go folks. Bruce, upside, have fun w/ Sonny.

    Bruce, you’re right. He hasn’t made a single coherent statement the entire thread, just endless dodges and ad hominem attacks.

    This all started back around Comment 96 w/ what appears to be a truly disgusting sexual comment on Makarios’ part towards Shane. I just really wanted to hear Makarios say it. He always acts so high and mighty here, but he’s actually a shallow, scatologically inclined fraud.

    It’s been incredibly entertaining watching these fools scramble around when I call them on their petty insults and utter nonsense. They have no facts, no opinions, no position to present. Just gibberish.

    Oops, excuse me, they’re all just Mr P… of “Moslems” fame…

    Ta ta, Sonnys Black and Red and Makarios. You’ve made such a strong case for “conservative values” here.

    **Squirt squirt**??

    “piece of sh*t”???

    “bigger balls”???

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…

    Whew… that was sumpin else…


  213. upside00 says:

    TRoS, Bruce,

    It seems to be working.


  214. upside00 says:

    mr. p and his “friends” have been quite fun tonight.


  215. Bruce Gorton says:

    Sonny Red

    Really, we aren’t God. I only managed to turn water into wine once, and I am not into fish sandwiches.

    Okay, I am not that fond of figs…


  216. upside00 says:

    Conservatives win!

    Comment by Makarios

    No, they lost in ‘06. Guess you didn’t get that email.


  217. Sonny Red says:

    No, they lost in ‘06. Guess you didn’t get that email.

    Comment by upside00

    With an 18% approval of the Dem congress, they are going to win it back next year.


  218. Sonny Red says:

    I am not into fish sandwiches.

    Comment by Bruce Gorton

    You would have never known it by the way you pound down McFish sandwiches, husky.


  219. Bruce Gorton says:

    Makarios

    And the Senate. The Dems didn’t lose a single seat. Kind of unprecedented really, and after only how many years? You know, against those 40 years the Dems managed to hold onto Congress?


  220. Sonny Red says:

    mr. p and his “friends” have been quite fun tonight.

    Comment by upside00

    No.

    You have TROS.


  221. upside00 says:

    With an 18% approval of the Dem congress, they are going to win it back next year.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:38 am

    If it is meaningless, why would you care who wins Congress? Need to stay focused, mr. p


  222. Sonny Red says:

    What are you bragging about husky? Those are DINOs who won in ‘06.


  223. Probus says:

    Fact is the White House knows its position has no legal merit. Bush will do anything to hide potential criminal activity in his administration.


  224. Sonny Red says:

    If it is meaningless, why would you care who wins Congress? Need to stay focused, mr. p

    Comment by upside00

    Whatever you say, TROS.

    The Dems have the lowest approval rating in history for Congress. You’re doing a heckava job.


  225. Sonny Red says:

    Bush will do anything to hide potential criminal activity in his administration.

    Comment by Probus

    What crime was committed? Please explain. And provide proof.


  226. upside00 says:

    What are you bragging about husky? Those are DINOs who won in ‘06.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:41 am

    Not bragging, just stating the facts. And they sure weren’t Repugs, except for Joe L., he is one of yours.


  227. Probus says:

    There is no legal basis for Bush’s claim he can’t hide for long from a Congress that is out to find the truth.


  228. upside00 says:

    Shut up, Probus! It was probably you that made all my information go blank, you piece of sh*t!!!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:43 am

    Now Now, that isn’t any way to debate. Won’t get any points from the judges.


  229. Sonny Green says:

    And they sure weren’t Repugs, except for Joe L., he is one of yours.

    Comment by upside00

    They’re all Republicans. They voted for FISA and for Iraq war funding.

    Webb, Tester, Shuler, Hostetler, et. al. are all GOP conservatives. They are not Dems. They are not one of yours.


  230. Probus says:

    Bush can’t claim privacy for emails on the RNC servers. Congress will find them and he will be impeached.


  231. Sonny Green says:

    There is no legal basis for Bush’s claim he can’t hide for long from a Congress that is out to find the truth.

    Comment by Probus

    This congress is at 18% and sinking. Bush can do whatever the f*ck he wants, spambot.


  232. Bruce Gorton says:

    Makarios

    Awe, is the poor widdle twoll twying to blame the nasty libewals for a pwoblem that has been noted by evewy one on these boards for months now?


  233. upside00 says:

    #

    Fuk YOU TOO, Probus!! All my info went blank again, fuker.

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:46 am

    Losing more points with that potty mouth. Tsk Tsk


  234. Sonny Green says:

    Congress will find them and he will be impeached.

    Comment by Probus

    You’re not too bright, are you?


  235. Probus says:

    Bush is clearly trying to cover his tracks. He is clearly hiding something from Congress. Fact is emails can’t be deleted.


  236. Sonny Green says:

    Awe, is the poor widdle twoll twying to blame the nasty libewals for a pwoblem that has been noted by evewy one on these boards for months now?

    Comment by Bruce Gorton

    This is the way Bruce/TROS really talks, because it is a moron. 5th grade education.


  237. MalarkeyOS says:

    Learn to spell, liberal.

    Comment by Makarios

    Yeah, NUKULAR!!

    AWOL coward Bush the coxucker PUNK is a TRAITOR and a MORON.


  238. Sonny Green says:

    Bush is clearly trying to cover his tracks. He is clearly hiding something from Congress. Fact is emails can’t be deleted.

    Comment by Probus

    LINK or admit you lied, you stinky hippie asswipe.


  239. upside00 says:

    This is the way Bruce/TROS really talks, because it is a moron. 5th grade education.

    Comment by Sonny Green — August 22, 2007 @ 3:51 am

    Be careful, Bruce,

    You have confused him. Don’t even think of trying any igPay atinLay.


  240. Probus says:

    Just like Judge Walton a Bush appointee sentenced Libby to jail a judge Bush appointed will compel Rove to testify before Congress. Rove can no longer hide. He doesn’t work for Bush anymore.


  241. Sonny Green says:

    I just contacted Faiz. Unless Probass starts providing links to his claims he’s going to be banned for spamming the board.


  242. Sonny Green says:

    Rove can no longer hide. He doesn’t work for Bush anymore.

    Comment by Probus

    Beacuse this, not healthcare, not terrorism, is what the American people are clammering for.

    You really are a stupid asswipe.


  243. Bruce Gorton says:

    upside00

    Hey, I was only trying to speak down to his level. Logic, reasoning and good English tend to be a bit beyond these morons.


  244. MalarkeyOS says:

    Just like Judge Walton a Bush appointee sentenced Libby to jail a judge Bush appointed will compel Rove to testify before Congress. Rove can no longer hide. He doesn’t work for Bush anymore.

    Comment by Probus

    Rove needs a baseball bat to the head for his TREASON.

    Or maybe a PATRIOTIC US Soldier MAIMED by Bush’s LIES will
    FRAG Rove.

    USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!


  245. Sonny Green says:

    Be careful, Bruce,

    Comment by upside00

    TROS is talking to itself again.


  246. upside00 says:

    #

    I just contacted Faiz. Unless Probass starts providing links to his claims he’s going to be banned for spamming the board.

    Comment by Sonny Green — August 22, 2007 @ 3:53 am

    And mr. p, where are all your links to refute him?

    Or are you just spamming the board?


  247. ebbAndflow says:

    #263 “Learn to spell, liberal.

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:49 am”

    L-i-b-e-r-a-l that’s how it’s spelled!


  248. Probus says:

    Thank you TP for allowing liberals such as myself to freely post their views without censorship.


  249. upside00 says:

    Bruce, are you talking to yourself? I thought you were talking to me? I am offended!!


  250. Probus says:

    Rove and Libby both deserve to be in federal prison for outing a covert agent.


  251. upside00 says:

    I was just censored because I tried to post the TRUTH!!!
    Fuk you, Probus, you worthless piece of $h!t!!!!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:58 am

    And the truth is supposed to set you free. Maybe it wasn’t so full of truthiness.

    Your thoughts, Probus?


  252. Sonny Green says:

    There are only two liberals here right now:

    Probus, who is a spambot idiot.

    And TROS, who is changing his name to Bruce, upside, and ebbandflow.


  253. Probus says:

    And the truth is supposed to set you free. Maybe it wasn’t so full of truthiness.

    Your thoughts, Probus?

    Comment by upside00 — August 22, 2007 @ 3:59 am

    I couldn’t be happier.


  254. Sonny Green says:

    Rove and Libby both deserve to be in federal prison for outing a covert agent.

    Comment by Probasshole

    She outed herself. Should she be in prison by your logic?


  255. upside00 says:

    There are only two liberals here right now:

    Probus, who is a spambot idiot.

    And TROS, who is changing his name to Bruce, upside, and ebbandflow.

    Comment by Sonny Green — August 22, 2007 @ 4:00 am

    Have proof? Links? Otherwise you are a spammer, according to your logic.


  256. MalarkeyOS says:

    And the truth is supposed to set you free. Maybe it wasn’t so full of truthiness.

    Your thoughts, Probus?

    Comment by upside00 — August 22, 2007 @ 3:59 am

    I couldn’t be happier.

    Comment by Probus

    Maybe because he tried to post the “truth” (hahahahahaha!), the moderators thought it was SOMEONE ELSE!!


  257. upside00 says:

    Me too, Probus.

    Mr. p is getting his Cheeto-stained shorts in a bind tonight.


  258. pitythepoortrolls says:

    Makarios/Sonny is up after hours.

    His e-mails are of no interest to anyone.

    I am sure he regrets that.


  259. Bruce Gorton says:

    upside00

    Nah, he is just a moron. I am posting from South Africa, under my real name.

    TROS is probably an American.


  260. Probus says:

    Everyone is free to express their viewpoints at TP though some folks get really worked about what some of us (liberals) say.


  261. Sonny Green says:

    Probus and TROS are probably paid DNC shills.


  262. upside00 says:

    Makarios/Sonny is up after hours.
    His e-mails are of no interest to anyone.

    I am sure he regrets that.

    Comment by pitythepoortrolls — August 22, 2007 @ 4:03 am

    Yea, it gets real lonely having night desk duties at the Junior college dorms.


  263. Sonny Green says:

    some folks get really worked about what some of us (liberals) say.

    Comment by Probus

    Because you say stupid things. And you provide no proof for your wildassed assertions.


  264. upside00 says:

    Nah, he is just a moron. I am posting from South Africa, under my real name.

    TROS is probably an American.

    Comment by Bruce Gorton — August 22, 2007 @ 4:04 am

    Welcome to the wacky world of repug trolldom. They provide a bit of humor at times.


  265. plunger says:

    Time to put Pelosi ON the table.

    This is enough.


  266. Bruce Gorton says:

    Sonny Green

    Projecting much Makarios? You still haven’t posted a single argument on this thread.


  267. Probus says:

    Those who often ask for proof are unable to back up their own “opinions” with facts.


  268. upside00 says:

    Projecting much Makarios? You still haven’t posted a single argument on this thread.

    Comment by Bruce Gorton — August 22, 2007 @ 4:08 am

    Cheetos, Mountain Dew and Meth will do that to a person. We see the results quite often here from him.


  269. plunger says:

    Let’s see how long my posts last before the TP thought police intervene and delete them, shall we?

    Karl:
    Put your hand on the bible.

    Now, under oath, do you swear that the NSA, AT&T, Comverse and others were NOT conducting Warrantless Wiretaps in advance of 9/11 during the early months of the Bush Administration, so help you God?

    What’s that Karl, I can’t hear you, could you speak up please, you’re mumbling.

    You’re not willing to swear to it under oath?

    You mean the Bush Administration ALREADY WAS engaged in warrantless wiretaps prior to 9/11, and 9/11 happened any way? You mean Tenant was in on it and blocked the CIA from doing its job?

    Well shit, that changes everything, doesn’t it Karl?

    Maybe it’s the case that 9/11 could never have happened WITHOUT your warrantless wiretaps prior to 9/11, and companies like AT&T and Raytheon were directly involved in the operation.

    How else could you orchestrate all of the interference to enable the attacks to be pulled off on the exact same day and at the exact same time as NORAD had been ordered to stand down to conduct drills simulating planes being hijacked and flown into buildings?

    We know Karl.

    We know what you did.

    We know.


  270. Tobey Tall says:

    US Helicopter Crashes In Iraq
    Updated: 09:05, Wednesday August 22, 2007

    An American military helicopter has crashed in northern Iraq killing 14 US soldiers.


  271. Probus says:

    Comment by Tobey Tall — August 22, 2007 @ 4:18 am

    This is tragic news. Our troops deserve a policy in Iraq that is worthy of their sacrifice. Bush must pull out all troops out of Iraq.


  272. ebbAndflow says:

    #283 “…
    And TROS, who is changing his name to Bruce, upside, and ebbandflow.

    Comment by Sonny Green — August 22, 2007 @ 4:00 am” -

    #286 “I am posting from South Africa, under my real name.Bruce Gorton — August 22, 2007 @ 4:04 am”

    I am ebbAndflow from the great state of California.


  273. upside00 says:

    I am Upside and from the mountains of Colorado.


  274. Tobey Tall says:

    Democrats in $7bn plan to turn US green

    America’s politicians are waking up to the moneymaking and job creation possibilities of combating global warming and challenging the Bush administration to invest in a new generation of “green-collar” jobs


  275. Tobey Tall says:

    Democrats in $7bn plan to turn US green

    America’s politicians are waking up to the moneymaking and job creation possibilities of combating global warming and challenging the Bush administration to invest in a new generation of “green-collar” jobs


  276. Bruce Gorton says:

    ebbAndflow, upside00,

    So that makes it, Colorado, California and Gauteng. I somehow doubt our IPs match.


  277. Tobey Tall says:

    Bush Admits ‘Frustration’ With Iraqi PM – antiwar website

    Bush, Sistani back off Support for al-Maliki; – Juan Cole website

    Bush distances himself from the ‘non-functional’ Iraqi government – independent website


  278. Tobey Tall says:

    CIA Didn’t Do Enough to Stop 9/11, Report Finds

    This story is on a few websites and it says that the CIA could have stopped 2 of the 911 highjackers


  279. Tobey Tall says:

    Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani is “disgusted” with the al-Maliki government. He complains that it has ‘filled his heart with pus’ by donning his robes and then neglecting to establish security or provide services to the people.

    If Sistani has soured so badly on al-Maliki, he really could be in trouble. The old man still has enormous moral authority.

    And, if both Bush and Sistani have given up on him, it is hard to see how he can survive.



  280. Mike Crotch says:

    Bush and Cheney think they are escaping. They must realize that one day soon Gonzo will not be running the DOJ. When the New Dem President comes into office they will have no choice but to bring criminal charges against them. The wiretap program and black sites information will have to go to the next President. All of the secrets will come out.
    Bush and Cheney are so dumb they think they are smart. They will be spending there last days on this Earth in Prison when they could have just been impeached. LOL.


  281. Mike Crotch says:

    This may be Bush and Cheneys only hope. A Right Wing think tank that has completely lost it.

    http://wonkette.com/politics/dept%27-of-it.s-good-to-be-king/beloved-dc-think-tank-calls-for-bush-to-nuke-iraq-and-become-world-dictator-291885.php

    President Bush can fail in his duty to himself, his country, and his God, by becoming “ex-president” Bush or he can become “President-for-Life” Bush: the conqueror of Iraq, who brings sense to the Congress and sanity to the Supreme Court. Then who would be able to stop Bush from emulating Augustus Caesar and becoming ruler of the world? For only an America united under one ruler has the power to save humanity from the threat of a new Dark Age wrought by terrorists armed with nuclear weapons.


  282. Mike Crotch says:

    Bush is looking to dump Maliki. Since the Redumblicans believe the right to vote means your free, I can see them trying to have another election across Iraq to buy more time for Bush to attempt to escape prison.


  283. Bruce Gorton says:

    Makarios

    Yeah, because its not like Maliki was thouroughly undermined by the popular perception that he was a US puppet that even had he been a god he would have failed, now is it?


  284. plunger says:

    Rumsfeld admits to at least $2.3 TRILLION in missing DOD funds. Enough to fund a coup. Devout Zionist Dov Zakheim was the comptroller – installed in that position just months prior to 9/11. Ask Dov where the money went, and why. It went to Israel.
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=UaMxaykpi5o

    AIPAC control is the direct result:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm766I5Znqo

    Ask Ari Fleischer if he was in the back seat of the limo with GW enroute to the elementary school on 9/11 when Bush “saw the first plane hit the tower” Got foreknowledge and planning?
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=T_VXgKyJVVU
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=vZOuNEoAWeY

    The role of Wolfowitz, Feith, Pearl, etc.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsun_fGUZ_Q&mode=related&search=

    Rumsfeld ADMITS the plane in Pennsylvania was shot down:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0&mode=related&search=

    This is the one that was SUPPOSED TO strike building 7.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn4Yx1MTgfQ&NR=1

    BBC blew the script – claiming WTC 7 was down BEFORE it actually was:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oNhbsJ81Q4&mode=related&search=

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8soQBZz9Sk&NR=1

    Israeli companies Comverse and Amdocs guilty of wiretapping prior to 9/11 in order to protect the pending 9/11 operation and shut down CIA tracking operations.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1ouKokfONU&mode=related&search=


  285. Bruno Hauptmann says:

    Why do the republicans hate America so much?


  286. Bruce Gorton says:

    Makarios

    Okay, its eaten my other responses. To make it short, your method of stabilising Iraq is precisely what the US did back when Maliki was elected with predictable results.

    If you do it again, all you will achieve is repeating the same stupid mistake you made with Maliki, with the same result – a government which cannot achieve legitimacy in the eyes of Iraqis and which is thus, neutered.


  287. Egreggious says:

    Are you the Egg man? Coo CooCaChoo?

    Comment by upside00 — August 22, 2007 @ 3:20 am

    Why did you have to drag me into that mess?


  288. Martha Stewart says:

    Why did you have to drag me into that mess?

    Comment by Egreggious — August 22, 2007 @ 7:47 am

    Me too!


  289. O. Bigfoot says:

    We all have a way to keep emails from becoming public. It’s called the “delete” button.


  290. Malarkios says:

    I know, I don’t even think about what I’m posting, or whether there’s any sense to what I say.
    I’m happy enough just to throw out a meaningless, two or three sentence blather, with a short non-sequiter as a tag line.
    If any one of you stuck around the whole day, you’d see this pattern, and then all my fun would be over.
    Oh, I also like to give a HEYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO every now and then!


  291. Sasquatch says:

    “We all have a way to keep emails from becoming public. It’s called the “delete” button.”

    Comment by O. Bigfoot

    The point here is that all White House communications are, by federal law, to be saved.

    Oh, while I got you on the line, I’m probably outside of your regular route in Rio Rancho, but I’m just over here in Corrales…
    can I get a pizza?
    Deluxe, no pepperoni.
    Thanks!
    P.S. My cables on the fritz, too, can you bring your tool bag?


  292. Menehune says:

    The bottom line is that the Administration CAN do whatever they want, until someone stops them. Harry? Nancy? Anybody?


  293. missmolly says:

    “the Justice Department said that “records about missing White House e-mails are not subject to public disclosure.”

    Is it just me, or is anybody else sick and tired of the seven commandments on the side of the barn constantly changing?


  294. O. Bigfoot says:

    “US Helicopter Crashes In Iraq
    Updated: 09:05, Wednesday August 22, 2007

    An American military helicopter has crashed in northern Iraq killing 14 US soldiers.

    Comment by Tobey Tall — August 22, 2007 @ 4:18 am

    Comment by Tobey Tall — August 22, 2007 @ 4:18 am

    This is tragic news. Our troops deserve a policy in Iraq that is worthy of their sacrifice. Bush must pull out all troops out of Iraq.

    Comment by Probus — August 22, 2007 @ 4:21 am”

    The force of gravity works equally around the world. Military helicopters crash outside of Iraq as well as inside Iraq.


  295. Sasquatch says:

    Where’s my pizza, ya big loaf?
    Better not be cold when you get here….


  296. O. Bigfoot says:

    Sorry, TP is censoring posts again. Cannot respond.


  297. O. Bigfoot says:

    “The point here is that all White House communications are, by federal law, to be saved.

    Oh, while I got you on the line, I’m probably outside of your regular route in Rio Rancho, but I’m just over here in Corrales…
    can I get a pizza?
    Deluxe, no pepperoni.
    Thanks!
    P.S. My cables on the fritz, too, can you bring your tool bag?

    Comment by Sasquatch — August 22, 2007 @ 9:03 am”

    Unenforceable law. One cannot ask to produce what one knows nothing about. Delete button still applies.


  298. Sasquatch says:

    I fart in your general direction


  299. Bruce Gorton says:

    O. Bigfoot

    Nonsense. If that were the case then destroying any evidence at all wouldn’t be a crime.


  300. O. Bigfoot says:

    Apparently frozen foods and cable tv are banned topics here. TP is still heavily censoring posts..I cannot respond to your other issues.


  301. Raven says:

    “Unenforceable law. ”
    Comment by O. Bigfoot

    Oh, so because a law is deemed “unenforceable”, there is your reason to break it?
    Laws are created, for the the people, and by the people, to give moral and ethical guidelines.
    You betray your own neo-con criminality.


  302. hellinabucket says:

    The republicans should look long and hard at this. Come next election there will be a democratic majority in all of congress and a democratic president.

    It behooves them to act now.


  303. Progressivesarehardcoreliars says:

    Demoncrats are scared to death of FoxNews Channel–the ONLY channel in all of the media landscape that’s fair and balanced, puts on guests of opposing views, and refuses to push stories based on liberal ideology. Demoncrats ought to be ashamed of themselves–and, consequently, be boycotted by the important swing voters and independents–for having the conspiracy-minded gall to blacklist FoxNews! These paranoid and mentally ill ideologues refuse to appear on FoxNews for illegitimate reasons, the primary one among them being they are concerned about being asked the TOUGH questions that the Hannitys and O’Reillys continually ask in their news analysis shows.


  304. Charles Rey says:

    JPark, I think you meant the Democratic congr….
    Oh, never mind.



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