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White House claims it can keep e-mails secret.

By Amanda on Aug 21st, 2007 at 10:30 pm

White House claims it can keep e-mails secret.»

Today in the “the latest effort by the Bush administration to expand the boundaries of government secrecy,” the Justice Department said that “records about missing White House e-mails are not subject to public disclosure. Administration lawyers detailed the legal position in a lawsuit trying to force the White House Office of Administration to reveal what it knows” about the disappearance of at least 5 million White House e-mails.

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306 Responses to “White House claims it can keep e-mails secret.”


  1. Raven Says:

    “jffy… mt me n th clk rm…”
    GWowee


  2. RUCerious Says:

    So lemmee get this straight, the records ABOUT missing emails aren’t available, and of course the emails aren’t available, and none of the people who sent or received the emails aren’t available, and please go Fu(k Ourselves?> That about it?


  3. pete Says:

    Move along now. Nothing to see here. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. We wouldn’t lie.


  4. Jake D. Says:

    Too bad Pelosi took impeachment off the table, huh?


  5. pete Says:

    Too bad Pelosi took impeachment off the table, huh?

    Comment by Jake D. — August 21, 2007 @ 10:38 pm

    Non sequitor.


  6. JPark Says:

    Sure is, Jake. Seems like the Republican Congress is even more pathetic. They won’t even let the cancer that is Bush campaign with them but they will still let him teabag them with self-destructive verve when it comes to voting.


  7. JG Says:

    I wonder how many of those emails are the same ones that ended up accidently going to Greg Palast..? If so, then they have been seen already by some members of Congress such as Rep. Conyers. One can hope.
    These guys in the WH are so utterly corrupt and without any integrity or honor. I don’t believe they are going to be held to account, but hopefully we can flush them out and undo some of the damage and stench.


  8. Tom3 Says:

    The White House is violating Federal law.

    The Democrats cannot stop this.

    This is the end of the United States of America. The end of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

    Thanks a lot, Repukes. You killed our country.


  9. trueblue Says:

    Would anyone have stood for this statement from the executive office in the early 70’s?

    What has America become in the past 30-odd years?

    It’s a tragedy that Americans put up with these daily assaults on our Constitution.


  10. Fan_of_Man Says:

    ready…. FIRE…. aim……


  11. Tom3 Says:

    This is the Constitutional Crisis that will destroy our great nation.

    Congress lacks the power, will- or otherwise, to stand up to Chimpy and demand that he follow the rule of law.

    Cheney cannot claim to be a fourth branch of government.

    Neither Chimpy nor Cheney can claim an umbrella of executive privilege to shield them from crimes they have committed.

    And they have committed crimes. No doubt about that now.


  12. Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR Says:

    Would anyone have stood for this statement from the executive office in the early 70’s?

    What has America become in the past 30-odd years?

    It’s a tragedy that Americans put up with these daily assaults on our Constitution.

    Comment by trueblue

    Nobody except Fred Thompson, Nixon’s MOLE on the Watergate Committee…

    The Rapeublicans are TRAITORS to the USA, and WAR CRIMINALS..

    P.S. Glad you liked the joke. A classic line from “Sanford and Son”


  13. Frank J Says:

    Can they get Hillary Clinton White House documents disclosed while they are at it?


  14. JPark Says:

    Frankie, baaaahhhhhhh


  15. ForTruth Says:

    Teabaggin….


  16. pete Says:

    Can they get Hillary Clinton White House documents disclosed while they are at it?

    Comment by Frank J — August 21, 2007 @ 10:49 pm

    Off topic. Next!


  17. ForTruth Says:

    I want to see Hillary naked…


  18. VerbalKint Says:

    Can they get Hillary Clinton White House documents disclosed while they are at it?
    Comment by Frank J — August 21, 2007 @ 10:49 pm

    Sure, Frank, that sounds like a fair trade. You get a little dirt on Hillary, and American patriots get mountains of proof of massive crimes perpetrated by the Bush administration.


  19. Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR Says:

    Can they get Hillary Clinton White House documents disclosed while they are at it?

    Comment by Frank J

    GREAT IDEA!!

    And ALSO the records of Iran/Contra TRAITORS Reagan and Bush Sr.

    Junior sealed them after 9/11…

    Let’s DO it!!!

    BRING IT ON!!!


  20. Tom3 Says:

    Frank J is an idiot.

    He doesn’t get it.

    PRESIDENT Hillary is going to inherit all those extra powers Chimpy stole. And Vice President Obama will inherit all those extra powers Cheney stole.

    And they’re going to kick your pasty Repuke fascist ass, Frankie.


  21. ForTruth Says:

    I’m afraid the boys in the WH are gonna stonewall to the end, and it appears we have no one willing to really stand up to them. I do look ahead now, to the concern of dealing with the aftermath of this Presidency.


  22. Zooey Says:

    Hey, cool.

    The Dem president can keep all kinds of big nasty secrets, and the Repubs won’t mind at all.


  23. JPark Says:

    The Dem elected in ‘08 IS going to have a lot of toys, eh?


  24. Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR Says:

    Frank J is an idiot.

    He doesn’t get it.

    PRESIDENT Hillary is going to inherit all those extra powers Chimpy stole. And Vice President Obama will inherit all those extra powers Cheney stole.

    And they’re going to kick your pasty Repuke fascist ass, Frankie.

    Comment by Tom3

    AND they are going to RESCIND Shrubbie’s EXECUTIVE ORDER which SEALED the records of Iran/Contra TRAITOR Reagan and Bush Sr.,

    therby nullifying the Presidential Records Act of 1978, established by Congress in order to prevent another “nixon”.

    We have SEEN the result of their “state secret” BS…


  25. Tom3 Says:

    Payback’s a beeyotch, Frankie.


  26. Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR Says:

    I want to see Hillary naked…

    Comment by ForTruth — August 21, 2007

    I’ve been looking for pics of Martha Stewart…


  27. Zooey Says:

    I want to see Hillary naked…
    Comment by ForTruth — August 21, 2007

    I’ve been looking for pics of Martha Stewart…
    Comment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR — August 21, 2007 @ 11:04 pm

    You guys have weird taste. :D


  28. Frank J Says:

    And with Hillary in there Al Qaeda will benefit greatly as they did under her reprobate husband.


  29. DutchHenry Says:

    Look after they leave the WH the congress can still go after these criminals with a special prosecutor.Just because they leave office doesn’t means the crimes against Americans and the constitution leave with them.


  30. pete Says:

    And with Hillary in there Al Qaeda will benefit greatly as they did under her reprobate husband.

    Comment by Frank J — August 21, 2007 @ 11:06 pm

    The story deals with the current criminals in the White House. Next!


  31. JPark Says:

    I always liked Marla Hooch. She was hot.


  32. JPark Says:

    Don’t bother with Frankie. He is just jealous of Monica.


  33. Tom3 Says:

    Frankie the Fascist is wrong as usual.

    Bill Clinton was never on probation.

    Now Chimpy, that’s another story…


  34. pete Says:

    Jane Russell
    Hubba, hubba.


  35. Zooey Says:

    Jane Russell
    Hubba, hubba.
    Comment by pete — August 21, 2007 @ 11:10 pm

    You can’t be that old!


  36. trueblue Says:

    Wow!
    This thread has jumped the tracks big time.

    I like it!

    :)


  37. trueblue Says:

    A classic line from “Sanford and Son”

    Comment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR

    It was funny as all get out. Thanks.
    :)


  38. Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR Says:

    And with Hillary in there Al Qaeda will benefit greatly as they did under her reprobate husband.

    Comment by Frank J

    Al. Queda has benefitted GREATLY from George W. MORON.

    We attacked Iraq, Al Queda is STRONGER THAN EVER.

    And Bush SAUDI OIL TERRORIST BUDDIES are the ones FINANCING Al Queda.

    Such TRAITORS, just like YOU…


  39. Zooey Says:

    Oh for f*ck’s sake, Frank. Call Monica, maybe she’ll give you a mercy s*ck.


  40. Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR Says:

    You guys have weird taste. :D

    Comment by Zooey — August 21, 2007

    Well, if you are Mistress Z also, that’s my fantasy with Martha.

    “It’s a BAD thing!!!”


  41. Maddie Says:

    You know NANCY can be IMPEACHED for not following throught on her OATH OF OFFICE - right?


  42. Zooey Says:

    Well, if you are Mistress Z also, that’s my fantasy with Martha.
    “It’s a BAD thing!!!”
    Comment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR — August 21, 2007 @ 11:25 pm

    Heh. I am Mistress Z. Usually on the weekends. :)


  43. ronjazz Says:

    You know NANCY can be IMPEACHED for not following throught on her OATH OF OFFICE - right?

    Comment by Maddie — August 21, 2007 @ 11:28 pm

    ?


  44. Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR Says:

    Well, if you are Mistress Z also, that’s my fantasy with Martha.
    “It’s a BAD thing!!!”
    Comment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR — August 21, 2007 @ 11:25 pm

    Heh. I am Mistress Z. Usually on the weekends. :)

    Can you put me in touch with Martha??? :-)


  45. Zooey Says:

    Can you put me in touch with Martha??? :-)
    Comment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR — August 21, 2007 @ 11:35 pm

    I’ll do my best. :-D


  46. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Can you put me in touch with Martha??? :-)
    Comment by Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL TRAITOR — August 21, 2007 @ 11:35 pm

    I’ll do my best. :-D

    Comment by Zooey — August 21, 2007 @ 11:43 pm

    Read it again, Z - he said “Martha”, not “Murtha”.


  47. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Did my last comment kill this thread, or did everybody get all hot and bothered by the thought of mature women, and take a break to rub one off?


  48. Zooey Says:

    Did my last comment kill this thread, or did everybody get all hot and bothered by the thought of mature women, and take a break to rub one off?
    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 21, 2007 @ 11:59 pm

    Well…..I don’t know about anyone else, but I was trying to call Martha.

    :-D


  49. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    oKay…

    ; )


  50. Crazy Says:

    What a surprise! The fox watching the hen house!

    What’s next??? Congress, the people are WATCHING YOU!


  51. bilbogaggins Says:

    George is King and that’s all there is to it. If you don’t like it, lump it.


  52. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    Worth Reading:

    Monday, August 20th, 2007
    History Doesn’t Impeach, but it Will Judge …by Dan DeWalt

    One of the more ridiculous utterances coming from the mouths of Democrats who refuse to defend the Constitution and hold the Bush administration accountable is that “History will impeach George Bush” so they won’t have to. Vermont’s Peter Welch has trotted out this phrase, but if he would take a moment to read some history, he would understand that he has it exactly backwards.

    Louis Fisher, citing the 1803 case of Stuart v. Laird in his American Constitutional Law states: “The boundaries between the three branches of government are also strongly affected by the role of custom and acquiescence. When one branch engages in a certain practice and the other branches acquiesce, the practice gains legitimacy and can fix the meaning of the Constitution.”

    In a 1952 ruling, the U.S. Supreme Court declared unconstitutional President Truman’s attempt to take national control of steel mills in order to avert a strike. When they wrote their opinions, the justices took pains to explain how they came to their decisions. And one factor which figured prominently was whether the Congress had taken action to counter the President, or if they had acquiesced and allowed a precedent to be set.

    Justice Jackson, in his opinion concurring with the majority put it this way: Therefore congressional inertia, indifference or quiescence may sometimes, at least as a practical matter, enable, if not invite, measures on independent presidential responsibility. In this area, any actual test of power is likely to depend on the imperatives of events and contemporary imponderables rather than on abstract theories of law.

    Justice Frankfurter also addressed this issue in the same ruling: The Constitution is a framework for government. Therefore the way the framework has consistently operated fairly establishes that it has operated according to its true nature. Deeply embedded traditional ways of conducting government cannot supplant the Constitution or legislation, but they give meaning to the words of a text or supply them. It is an inadmissibly narrow conception of American constitutional law to confine it to the words of the Constitution and to disregard the gloss which life has written upon them. In short, a systematic, unbroken, executive practice, long pursued to the knowledge of the Congress and never before questioned, engaged in by Presidents who have also sworn to uphold the Constitution, making as it were such exercise of power part of the structure of our government, may be treated as a gloss on “executive Power” vested in the President by [sec.] 1 of Art. II.

    Frankfurter also saw fit to include this warning: The accretion of dangerous power does not come in a day. It does come, however slowly, from the generative force of unchecked disregard of the restrictions that fence in even the most disinterested assertion of authority.

    Not only are Welch and his fellow travelers ignoring the Bush administration’s crimes and constitutional over-reaching, they are establishing a precedent of acquiescence that will make it even harder for a future Congress with backbone (should that ever occur) to hold the next runaway executive branch to account.

    We are facing a severe perversion of our Democracy. The Republicans have criminalized the executive branch. The Democrats, rather than fighting to protect the Constitution (or represent the will of the nation in ending the Iraq occupation), are willing actors in the drama that is unfolding. Regaining power matters above all else. And they have cynically decided that the best way to achieve power is to ride the disintegration of the Bush administration to the bitter end, reaping the political benefits and ignoring the “collateral damage” of lives and constitutional damage that the next seventeen months will bring.

    History will judge, not impeach. And the Congress, as well as the President will be condemned for leading the country down such a disastrous and dishonorable path.

    What will History have to say about the American people? Will we too be condemned for our inaction? Or will we take action now and be the only bright footnote in this dismal narrative?

    Dan DeWalt is a woodworker and selectboard member in the town of Newfane, Vermont, and the author of a successful town resolution calling for the impeachment of President Bush.

    http://www.michaelmoore.com/mustread/index.php?id=908


  53. bilbogaggins Says:

    “And with Hillary in there Al Qaeda will benefit greatly as they did under her reprobate husband.
    Comment by Frank J “

    Couldn’t benefit any more than they did with Bush.

    1) Bush ignores PTB that Osama was going to strike in America with airplanes.
    2) Osama strikes and Bush flies all his relatives out of the US the day after.
    3) They have Osama at Tora Bora and Bush calls off the dogs.
    4) Bush is no longer interested in Osama
    5) Bush invades Iraq, thereby making lots of new recruits for al Queda.

    So tell me Francine, what did Clinton do to enable Osama?


  54. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    After the big economic collapse, while everyone is thinking clearly, we need several Constitutional ammendments to keep this crap from happening again. Here are a few suggestions:

    1. A sunshine amendment: The only secrets the government may keep are the position and strength of our forces, the identities and locations of our spies, and the extent of our military technologies. This ammendment would include a ban on Court ordered non-disclosure settlements.

    2. Military spending will not exceed 10% of the Federal Budget, other than in time of war, in which case it may be increased to 33%

    3. The right of Habeas Corpus will not be infringed.

    4. US laws will cover anyone in the custody of the US government.

    Anybody want anything else while we’re at it?


  55. Jackie Says:

    As the criminal White House Mafia continues the public blames the Democrats. Elected officials work for the American people. If Americans don’t like the US laws broken by the White House we can remove the President and Vice President. Pelosi is an employee she works for the people. Americans act like Bush is a King who can’t be removed the the people. We don’t need officials to get Bush/Cheney out of office, we can do it ourselves. Remember the election of the President well fire him. If Americans acted like they do now Nixon would have never had to resign. Even Chancellor Merkel and President Sarkozy are giving Bush orders to fix the Stock Market problem yet Americans sit back and do nothing but complain. As millions lose their homes, jobs, pensions and health care all that’s done is blame someone else. You want these crimes to end look in the mirror to see the person who can stop it right now. 5 more soldiers died today in Iraq while Americans sit back and complained.


  56. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    oh yeah:

    5. An elected public official, having been duly convicted of a crime or misdemeanor, will recieve 4X the penalty of a private citizen convicted of the same crime.

    6. The POTUS may not pardon an elected or appointed government official.


  57. I'm a TP Moonbat Says:

    O h Dems we cry out to you! Save US!
    I am a victim. Save me from myself.

    Al Gore the saviour of our planet you must redeem our planet.
    —————————————————-
    Please recycle Thanks


  58. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    O h Dems we cry out to you! Save US!
    I am a victim. Save me from myself.

    Al Gore the saviour of our planet you must redeem our planet.
    —————————————————-
    Please recycle Thanks

    Comment by I’m a TP Moonbat — August 22, 2007 @ 12:23 am

    How many hits of acid did you drop?


  59. I'm a TP Moonbat Says:

    Organic mushrooms only from Seattle man.


  60. I'm a TP Moonbat Says:

    Al Gore Jr says stay organic so you won’t get busted.


  61. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Organic mushrooms only from Seattle man.

    Comment by I’m a TP Moonbat — August 22, 2007 @ 12:29 am

    You’d have to be in FL or TX to get those mushrooms. Poseur.


  62. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Organic mushrooms only from Seattle man.

    Comment by I’m a TP Moonbat — August 22, 2007 @ 12:29 am

    Try making “a point”. I swear, you’ll like yourself better in the morning.


  63. james k. sayre Says:

    The Gettybush Address

    Four score and seven million lost Emails ago, our forebushers brought forth on this continent a new regime, conceived in lunacy and dedicated to the proposition that all Bush crime family members are created equal.

    Now we are engaged in a great civil discourse, testing whether that regime or any regime, so constipated and so daffy, can long endure…

    (repeated for your reading pleasure…)


  64. Left Coast Mike Says:

    You’d have to be in FL or TX to get those mushrooms. Poseur.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:31 am

    Not hardly my friend…we have our own in the great northwest. Just another secret we don’t let out.


  65. Jason M. Hendler Says:

    Congressional approval at all time looooooowwww:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293890,00.html

    By all means, keep holding hearings and launching investigations. With your numbers this low, Pres. Bush’s upcoming vetoes will hold, as he will be seen as more responsible. I can’t imagine what the Dem Congress’s approval numbers will sink to then.


  66. Bob Says:

    Seattle mushrooms grown from a kit man - High Times style.
    come on dude get with it. Totally organic:)


  67. Left Coast Mike Says:

    Congressional approval at all time looooooowwww:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293890,00.html

    Consider the source…


  68. Lescoeurs Says:

    The great crime is no longer being committed by the thugs in the White House. That is a given. The greater crime is being committed by the leadership which has shirked its sworn commitment to uphold the Constitution.


  69. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    I can’t imagine what the Dem Congress’s approval numbers will sink to then.

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 22, 2007 @ 12:36 am

    And I can’t imagine why you think you’re making a valid point.

    Fox News? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…


  70. Left Coast Mike Says:

    Seattle mushrooms grown from a kit man - High Times style.
    come on dude get with it. Totally organic:)

    Comment by Bob — August 22, 2007 @

    No kits necessary…just find a pasture or a wood pile depending on the spieces,


  71. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Congressional approval at all time looooooowwww:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293890,00.html

    By all means, keep holding hearings and launching investigations. With your numbers this low, Pres. Bush’s upcoming vetoes will hold, as he will be seen as more responsible. I can’t imagine what the Dem Congress’s approval numbers will sink to then.

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 22, 2007 @ 12:36 am

    Dude - I think you’ve got some spinach or something caught in your teeth.


  72. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    If the White House didn’t protect our nation’s secrets the traitors of the Left would tell terrorists and alKaida!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:41 am

    I’ll bet you have man tits.


  73. upside00 Says:

    If the White House didn’t protect our nation’s secrets the traitors of the Left would tell terrorists and alKaida!
    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:41 am

    I’ll bet you have man tits.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:45 am

    That is only mr p/doggie dung. He is starting one of his infamous rants, from the looks of post #73. Beware of the flying Troll dung!


  74. shane Says:

    On the plus side, we can move to any country we choose now and live under less fascism.


  75. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    I’ll bet you have man tits.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:45 am

    I’ll bet you have a vag.

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:47 am

    I had your mamma’s, but it was spoiled, so I kicked it to the trash where it belongs.


  76. shane Says:

    I can’t imagine what the Dem Congress’s approval numbers will sink to then.

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 22, 2007 @ 12:36 am

    If they’re worried about numbers they should start impeachment proceeding and they will soar through the roof.


  77. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Scram, troll!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:48 am

    So much self importance, yet still so little to say…


  78. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:48 am

    Scram, troll!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:48 am

    I might be an ogre, but I ain’t no troll. BTW: I’ll bet you’ve got a real sweet mouth.


  79. shane Says:

    Dude - I think you’ve got some spinach or something caught in your teeth.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:44 am

    That’s not spinach.


  80. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Keep lying to yourself, moonbat.

    by the way:

    **squirt**
    in your eye!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:51 am

    You’re really cute when you’re mad (that’s all of the time). Too bad you’re always an air-head.


  81. shane Says:

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:41 am

    I’ll bet you have man tits.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:45 am

    He wears a manssiere and still sags.


  82. shane Says:

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:47 am

    I had your mamma’s, but it was spoiled, so I kicked it to the trash where it belongs.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:48 am

    You get what you pay for.


  83. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Comment by shane — August 22, 2007 @ 12:55 am

    These closet-gay rethugs get really upset when the posts get close to the truth.


  84. shane Says:

    Fuk You.

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 12:50 am

    How do you like your fascism?


  85. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    My work here i done - for today. G’night Shane and RoS. It’s been fun.


  86. shane Says:

    These closet-gay rethugs get really upset when the posts get close to the truth.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 12:56 am

    Really gay or straight they couldn’t find a partner, no wonder they’re confused.


  87. shane Says:

    Night Marcus, thanks for the contribution.


  88. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    *squirt* *squirt* *squirt* *squirt*

    SPLASH!!!!!!!!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 1:05 am

    Does anyone OTHER than Makarios have any idea what this means?

    “Incoherent” is not a statement.


  89. shane Says:

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 1:05 am

    Does anyone OTHER than Makarios have any idea what this means?

    “Incoherent” is not a statement.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 22, 2007 @ 1:14 am

    Does anybody other than the Mackeral CARE?


  90. upside00 Says:

    Does anybody other than the Mackeral CARE?

    Comment by shane — August 22, 2007 @ 1:17 am

    That is just mr p going off the deep end again. When thathappens, NOTHING makes any sense.


  91. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    When your husband kisses you, you can tell him it is a new brand!!!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 1:27 am

    Again, what the hell is he talking about???


  92. upside00 Says:

    Again, what the hell is he talking about???

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 22, 2007 @ 1:29 am

    No one knows, including mr p.


  93. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Shane knows.

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 1:32 am

    Shane? Do you understand this?


  94. shane Says:

    Shane knows.

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 1:32 am

    Shane? Do you understand this?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 22, 2007 @ 1:33 am

    Absolutely NOT and he better shut up about my family.


  95. shane Says:

    Hey mackeral, you’ll be drafted and fighting this bullshit “war” before you and your fascist friends destroy liberal blogging.


  96. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Absolutely NOT and he better shut up about my family.

    Comment by shane — August 22, 2007 @ 1:35 am

    Perhaps we should ask him to articulate it, so we can all share the joke.


  97. upside00 Says:

    Perhaps we should ask him to articulate it, so we can all share the joke.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 22, 2007 @ 1:42 am

    The joke is in his Cheeto-stained underwear.


  98. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    The joke is in his Cheeto-stained underwear.

    Comment by upside00 — August 22, 2007 @ 1:44 am

    Are you sure that’s a Cheeto stain?


  99. Sonny Says:

    test…


  100. Sonny Black Says:

    Let’s put it this way: Shane’s eye is sealed shut right now.


  101. Sonny Black Says:

    What is up my man!


  102. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Comment by Sonny Black — August 22, 2007 @ 2:07 am

    Not quite sure why dead mafioi are posting here, but hey, it’s TP!

    Anything goes.

    As far as the meaning of the Mackerel’s comment, he claims he’s a big boy. Let him explain his own remark, in his own words.


  103. Sonny Black Says:

    I recieved a message from Dr. Dog. He’s coming back soon.


  104. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    I recieved a message from Dr. Dog. He’s coming back soon.

    Comment by Sonny Black — August 22, 2007 @ 2:11 am

    Unfortunately, people will laugh at him all over again.


  105. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    But I’ll be checking in periodically to make sure the libs don’t get out of hand.

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 2:16 am

    Yeah, we’re all beat up… from laughing so hard.

    Care to explain your remark to Shane, in your own words?


  106. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Shane knows perfectly well, she’s a real pro!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 2:19 am

    I already asked Shane. She already said she didn’t understand it either.

    Now I’m asking you, more than once.

    Can’t you explain your own remark? That’s pretty sad…


  107. Sonny Black Says:

    Big Mak,

    I see TROS is violating every single one of his rules. Libs want to write rules for everybody else but exempt themselvs from them.

    Liberals hate the United States, but I found it hilarious when Hillary actually praised the success of the surge. She’s right but I wonder if she just killed her chances at gaining the Libtard Nomination.

    I like your blog, man. It’s a great lay out.

    SB


  108. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    All I’ve done is politely ask the Mackerel what he meant. His comment didn’t make any sense. I’m trying to understand this, but he apparently can’t explain his own words. What did he mean?


  109. Sonny Black Says:

    Obama’s wife has bigger balls than Obama has.


  110. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Obama’s wife has bigger balls than Obama has.

    Comment by Sonny Black — August 22, 2007 @ 2:25 am

    This is completely meaningless.


  111. Sonny Black Says:

    Big Mak explained it pretty well. You’re just too dense to figure it out.


  112. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Big Mak explained it pretty well. You’re just too dense to figure it out.

    Comment by Sonny Black — August 22, 2007 @ 2:26 am

    Actually, he never did, and now you’re resorting to petty insults.

    Is the Mack afraid to explain it? Is he embarrassed to own his own words? Was it supposed to be a joke? If I am “too dense”, why doesn’t he explain so I can get the joke too?


  113. Sonny Red Says:

    This is completely meaningless.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    A candidate’s wife has bigger nuts than the candidate himself and you think it’s meaningless?

    Keep reading TP. You’re brainwashed.


  114. Sonny Red Says:

    Is the Mack afraid to explain it? Is he embarrassed to own his own words? Was it supposed to be a joke? If I am “too dense”, why doesn’t he explain so I can get the joke too?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    This is completely meaningless.

    It is just filler. TROS must be getting paid by the word.


  115. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    A candidate’s wife has bigger nuts than the candidate himself and you think it’s meaningless?

    Keep reading TP. You’re brainwashed.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:30 am

    How is that physiologically possible? Are you referring to her ovaries?


  116. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    It is just filler. TROS must be getting paid by the word.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:31 am

    Nah, I just want Makarios to explain his comment, and he refuses to do so. Why?


  117. Sonny Red Says:

    How is that physiologically possible? Are you referring to her ovaries?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    I think Black is referring to Mrs. Obama’s large nut sack, and Obama’s tiny one.


  118. Sonny Red Says:

    Nah, I just want Makarios to explain his comment, and he refuses to do so. Why?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Everybody gets the joke but you. Why are you so dense?


  119. had enough Says:

    I just heard on the Bernie Ward Show, kgo.com, from a caller about the failed mortgages.. this caller stated:

    The at risk loans were bundled, then sold to wall street who then resold them to pension holders who are left holding the bag… of faulty loans. Our pensions may be at BIG risk.


  120. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    I think Black is referring to Mrs. Obama’s large nut sack, and Obama’s tiny one.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:35 am

    How is that possible? Please explain it clearly.


  121. Sonny Red Says:

    I just heard on the Bernie Ward Show

    Comment by had enough

    That’s your problem. Why are you listening to that lard ass?


  122. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Everybody gets the joke but you. Why are you so dense?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:36 am

    Why can’t Mack explain his own words? He’s the only one who really knows what he meant. Shane already said she didn’t understand it.

    Was meant to be a joke? An insult? What did it mean?


  123. Sonny Red Says:

    How is that possible? Please explain it clearly.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Please explain why you don’t understand the comment.


  124. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Why are you listening to that lard ass?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:38 am

    Again, an insult. Why?


  125. Sonny Red Says:

    Why can’t Mack explain his own words? He’s the only one who really knows what he meant. Shane already said she didn’t understand it.

    Was meant to be a joke? An insult? What did it mean?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    We’re all laughing at you right now.


  126. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    *squirt* *squirt* *squirt* *squirt*

    SPLASH!!!!!!!!

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 1:05 am

    THAT’s the original comment. What could it mean?


  127. Sonny Red Says:

    Again, an insult. Why?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity —

    It’s the truth. Bernie Ward is a lard ass piece of sh!t.


  128. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    We’re all laughing at you right now.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:40 am

    Why? Plese explain.


  129. Sonny Red Says:

    THAT’s the original comment. What could it mean?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    You tell me what you think it means.


  130. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Bernie Ward is a lard ass piece of sh!t.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:40 am

    That’s such an incredibly inarticulate statement.

    “Lard ass piece of sh*t”? What could that possibly mean?


  131. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    You tell me what you think it means.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:41 am

    I have no idea. i didn’t make the comment. Makarios did. I’ve repeatedly asked him to explain, and he won’t.

    They’re not my words. They’re his. Makarios, what did you mean?


  132. Sonny Red Says:

    Bernie Ward needs to go on a crash diet or he needs bariatric surgery. He’s fatter than sh!t.


  133. Sonny Red Says:

    I have no idea. i didn’t make the comment.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    I know it probably hurts but try thinking it through and getting back to me. What do you think it means?


  134. Sonny Red Says:

    “Lard ass piece of sh*t”? What could that possibly mean?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    You tell me.


  135. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    What do you think it means?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:44 am

    I’ve told you. It doesn’t appear to mean anything.

    Squirt** squirt** squirt** SPLASH?

    No noun, no verb, no subject, no object. It appears to be nonsense.

    If Makarios knows what he meant, why doesn’t he just clarify it?


  136. Sonny Red Says:

    If Makarios knows what he meant, why doesn’t he just clarify it?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Are you really this stupid?


  137. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    What do you think it means?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:44 am

    Again, you make a cooment that seems to be quite irrational. I ask for clairifcation, and you ask me what I think it means.

    Again, I didn’t make the comment. Is Mr Ward really a piece of excrement? How is this possible? And what is a “lard ass”???


  138. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Are you really this stupid?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:49 am

    Why can’t Makarios explain his words?

    And do you feel some need to insult me? Why?


  139. upside00 Says:

    If Makarios knows what he meant, why doesn’t he just clarify it?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 22, 2007 @ 2:47 am

    It’s all the same troll (mr. p), and beginning its late night meth rants. mr. p has a LOT of issues!


  140. Sonny Red Says:

    What do you mean by “irrational”?

    What do you mean by “clairification”?

    What do you mean by it not being possible that Bernie Ward is a piece of sh!t?

    How do you not know what “lard ass” means?


  141. Sonny Red Says:

    Why can’t Makarios explain his words?

    And do you feel some need to insult me? Why?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    He already did. Why are you too stupid to understand?

    I’m not insulting you. You are really dumb. It’s the truth.



  142. upside00 Says:

    upside = TROS

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:53 am

    Ya think?


  143. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    How do you not know what “lard ass” means?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:51 am

    It sometimes gets used as an insult towards people w/ weight problems. Why do you feel a need to insult Bernie Ward, or did you mean someting else?

    How could Bernnie be a piece of sh*t? He’s a living, breathing human being. “Pieces of sh*t” aren’t alive.

    What do you mean by “irrational”?

    I can’t see what Makarios means. It appears he was making a statement of some sort, but I can’t beging to understand it. Why won’t he just explain it?

    What do you mean by “clairification”?

    Why won’t he just explain it?


  144. upside00 Says:

    REoS,

    It has no logic, too much meth, maybe?


  145. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    He already did. Why are you too stupid to understand?

    I’m not insulting you. You are really dumb. It’s the truth.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:52 am

    He did not. I have reread this thread and Makarios has not explained his own words. Why won’t he just explain what he meant?

    How am I dumb? Please explain?


  146. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    t has no logic, too much meth, maybe?

    Comment by upside00 — August 22, 2007 @ 2:56 am

    I don’t know, upside. That’s why I keep asking makarios to explain his own words.


  147. Sonny Red Says:

    Ya think?

    Comment by upside00

    Yes.

    You and TROS are sockpuppets.


  148. Sonny Red Says:

    How am I dumb? Please explain?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    You have a very low intelligence.


  149. upside00 Says:

    You and TROS are sockpuppets.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:58 am

    Ya think? Why? Got proof?


  150. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    You have a very low intelligence.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:58 am

    And you base this opinion on what?


  151. Sonny Red Says:

    Ya think? Why? Got proof?

    Comment by upside00

    Yes.

    You and TROS are trolls.

    All trolls are one.


  152. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    You and TROS are sockpuppets.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 2:58 am

    Sockpuppets? What does THAT mean?


  153. Sonny Red Says:

    And you base this opinion on what?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Your dumb remarks.


  154. Sonny Red Says:

    Sockpuppets? What does THAT mean?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    What do you think it means?


  155. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    All trolls are one.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:00 am

    What does that mean?


  156. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    What do you think it means?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:01 am

    AS far as i can tell, it doesn’t make sense. Again, that’s why I asked.


  157. Sonny Red Says:

    What does that mean?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    What do you think it means?


  158. Sonny Red Says:

    AS far as i can tell, it doesn’t make sense. Again, that’s why I asked.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    What doesn’t make sense? Please explain in detail.


  159. upside00 Says:

    All trolls are one.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:00 am

    Then, you being a troll, should know what one is.


  160. Sonny Red Says:

    Then, you being a troll, should know what one is.

    Comment by upside00

    What does that mean?


  161. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Your dumb remarks.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:00 am

    Which remarks are you referring to, and why are they dumb? This whole thing started w/ Makarios’ comment. He refuses to explain it.

    Then we had “Bernie Ward is a piece of sh*t”…

    And Obama’s wife magically has “Balls bigger than her husband”…

    And I’m the stupid one? Please explain.


  162. Sonny Red Says:

    And Obama’s wife magically has “Balls bigger than her husband”…

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    What do you mean by “magically”? Please explain.


  163. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    What do you think it means?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:02 am

    I don’t know. I don’t assume to understand your statements. Much like makarios, you keep saying things that don’t make any snese, but refuse to explain what you meant. And now you’re just asking me what i mean when i say i don’t understand statement’s like

    “Bernie Ward is a piece of sh*t”, or Obama’s wife has bigger balls”.

    What could you possibly mean by those statements? Can’t you articulate your own words?


  164. Sonny Red Says:

    What could you possibly mean by those statements? Can’t you articulate your own words?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    That’s why I’m asking you to explain what you mean. Can you?


  165. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    What do you mean by “magically”? Please explain.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:06 am

    Women don’t have testicles, yet Sonny Black stated “Obama’s wife has bigger balls than Obama has.” How is this possible? Is it magic? Is she a freak of nature? What did Sonny Black mean?


  166. Sonny Red Says:

    How is this possible? Is it magic? Is she a freak of nature? What did Sonny Black mean?

    Comment by TROS

    What do you mean? Please explain.


  167. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    That’s why I’m asking you to explain what you mean. Can you?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:08 am

    I asked how could a living, breathing human being such as Bernie Ward be a “piece of sh*t”. It doesn’t make sense. Can you explain it?


  168. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    What do you mean? Please explain.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:10 am

    Women don’t have testicles, yet Sonny Black stated Obama’s wife had bigger balls than Obama. How can this be?


  169. Sonny Red Says:

    I asked how could a living, breathing human being such as Bernie Ward be a “piece of sh*t”. It doesn’t make sense. Can you explain it?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    What doesn’t make sense?


  170. upside00 Says:

    TRoS,

    You have mr p under control. Later!!


  171. Sonny Red Says:

    Women don’t have testicles, yet Sonny Black stated Obama’s wife had bigger balls than Obama. How can this be?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Your comment doesn’t make any sense. How can this be?


  172. Sonny Red Says:

    TROS is talking to himself.


  173. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    What doesn’t make sense?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:12 am

    A human being is alive. Excrement is not. The statement makes no sense. Can Sonny explain what he meant? if Sonny has a position to state politcally, this a good forum for it, but that statement makes no sense.


  174. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    TROS is talking to himself.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:13 am

    I’m talking to you.


  175. upside00 Says:

    TROS is talking to himself.
    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:13 am

    What does that mean? Please explain.


  176. Sonny Red Says:

    A human being is alive. Excrement is not. The statement makes no sense. Can Sonny explain what he meant? if Sonny has a position to state politcally, this a good forum for it, but that statement makes no sense.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    How can you not know what the term “piece of shit” means?


  177. Sonny Red Says:

    What does that mean? Please explain.

    Comment by upside00

    You and tros are the same person. Tros is talking to itself.


  178. Sonny Red Says:

    I’m talking to you.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    You also responded to yourself as upside.


  179. upside00 Says:

    You and tros are the same person. Tros is talking to itself.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:15 am

    Are you sure?


  180. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    How can you not know what the term “piece of shit” means?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:15 am

    “piece of shit” refers to excrement. It is inanimate. Bernie Ward is alive.
    Bernie cannot be a “piece of sh*t”. The statement makes no sense.


  181. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    You also responded to yourself as upside.

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:16 am

    I’m not upside. I have no idea who upside is.


  182. Sonny Red Says:

    Are you sure?

    Comment by upside00

    Are you?


  183. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    KKK test KKK

    Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:16 am

    Makerel… are you going to explain your comment, finally?


  184. Sonny Red Says:

    “piece of shit” refers to excrement. It is inanimate. Bernie Ward is alive.
    Bernie cannot be a “piece of sh*t”. The statement makes no sense.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Piece of shit also refers to a scumbag like Bernie Ward. And some think that lard ass is inanimate. What do you not understand, stupid?


  185. upside00 Says:

    Are you?

    Comment by Sonny Red — August 22, 2007 @ 3:17 am

    More than you are.


  186. Bruce Gorton Says:

    As amusing as it is to tie Sonny Red up in his own stupidity, can we please return to the topic?