Comments on: Original Iraq War Propagandist Ari Fleischer Returns To Flack For Bush’s Escalation http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:55:34 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: peter http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-3/#comment-4041433 peter Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:38:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4041433 Will Bush now now re-invade Iraq to replace Maliki with Allawi? Could it be that 75% of US population disagree the reasoning to invade Iraq and understand there was no link with 9-11? Hey Marty, you are a loser like our President, Alberto, Rice and all your crew. Will Bush now now re-invade Iraq to replace Maliki with Allawi?
Could it be that 75% of US population disagree the reasoning to invade Iraq and understand there was no link with 9-11?

Hey Marty, you are a loser like our President, Alberto, Rice and all your crew.

]]> By: major tom http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-3/#comment-4036446 major tom Sat, 25 Aug 2007 18:18:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4036446 Not a tax lawyer but their site claims they are a tax-exempt 501(C)(4) or social welfare organization. But a cursory glance at the actual IRS details make me wonder: http://www.irs.gov/charities/nonprofits/article/0,,id=96178,00.html last para- The promotion of social welfare does not include direct or indirect participation or intervention in political campaigns on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office. However, a section 501(c)(4) social welfare organization may engage in some political activities, so long as that is not its primary activity. However, any expenditure it makes for political activities may be subject to tax under section 527(f). For further information regarding political and lobbying activities of section 501(c) organizations, see Election Year Issues, Political Campaign and Lobbying Activities of IRC 501(c)(4), (c)(5), and (c)(6) Organizations, and Revenue Ruling 2004-6. Not a tax lawyer but their site claims they are a tax-exempt 501(C)(4)
or social welfare organization.

But a cursory glance at the actual IRS details make me wonder:
http://www.irs.gov/charities/nonprofits/article/0,,id=96178,00.html

last para-

The promotion of social welfare does not include direct or indirect participation or intervention in political campaigns on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office. However, a section 501(c)(4) social welfare organization may engage in some political activities, so long as that is not its primary activity. However, any expenditure it makes for political activities may be subject to tax under section 527(f). For further information regarding political and lobbying activities of section 501(c) organizations, see Election Year Issues, Political Campaign and Lobbying Activities of IRC 501(c)(4), (c)(5), and (c)(6) Organizations, and Revenue Ruling 2004-6.

]]> By: jane quatam http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-3/#comment-4035958 jane quatam Sat, 25 Aug 2007 04:55:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4035958 Isn't "Freedom Watch" spelled backwards "Haliburton"? or is it "The Project for A New American Century"? Does Ari really need the money or do they have pictures of him and Gannon/Guckert manloving each other up in the Lincoln bedroom? Sometime in early January of 2000 the earth crossed over into "Bizarro World" where everything is backwards, where Freedom Watch means oppression of Civil Liberties, where Homeland Security means todays color is mauve - buy duct tape and being a graduate of Yale and Harvard means you are president of the USA but can't speak the english language. It gets better everyday, you can't tell the cops from the crooks without a program anymore. Isn’t “Freedom Watch” spelled backwards “Haliburton”? or is it “The Project for A New American Century”? Does Ari really need the money or do they have pictures of him and Gannon/Guckert manloving each other up in the Lincoln bedroom?

Sometime in early January of 2000 the earth crossed over into “Bizarro World” where everything is backwards, where Freedom Watch means oppression of Civil Liberties, where Homeland Security means todays color is mauve – buy duct tape and being a graduate of Yale and Harvard means you are president of the USA but can’t speak the english language. It gets better everyday, you can’t tell the cops from the crooks without a program anymore.

]]> By: Firstsai http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-3/#comment-4032753 Firstsai Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:48:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4032753 Anyone who doesn't believe that this ghastly propaganda won't work on Ma and Pa Kettle back in Nebraska, doesn't know the American people very well. Of course they'll believe it, and in the same breath, curse all of you who dare question the obvious spin that will accompany any story coming out of Iraq next month. Patraeus also knows he's treading water...because Bush will leave office, and any of his minions left around will become chum for a new Democrat administration seeking a combination of retribution and accountability. See you at the document shredding party in December 2008. Anyone who doesn’t believe that this ghastly propaganda won’t work on Ma and Pa Kettle back in Nebraska, doesn’t know the American people very well. Of course they’ll believe it, and in the same breath, curse all of you who dare question the obvious spin that will accompany any story coming out of Iraq next month. Patraeus also knows he’s treading water…because Bush will leave office, and any of his minions left around will become chum for a new Democrat administration seeking a combination of retribution and accountability. See you at the document shredding party in December 2008.

]]> By: psychic readings http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-3/#comment-4032094 psychic readings Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:50:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4032094 cooooooool cooooooool

]]> By: saidarr http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-3/#comment-4031905 saidarr Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:16:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4031905 The people who were supposed to win from the invasion of Irag were the government of Israel but as things stand there are no winners just a lot of loosers. The people who were supposed to win from the invasion of Irag were the government of Israel but as things stand there are no winners just a lot of loosers.

]]> By: saidarr http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-4031891 saidarr Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:12:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4031891 Israel must be kept safe in the middle-east regardless of how it behaves towards its neighbours. Israel must be kept safe in the middle-east regardless of how it behaves towards its neighbours.

]]> By: Bill http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-4031831 Bill Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:46:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4031831 The real question is (and I have seen no one ask it yet) who is bankrolling this ads? Who has an interest in keeping this war going? Someone needs to ask that question. - Bill The real question is (and I have seen no one ask it yet) who is bankrolling this ads? Who has an interest in keeping this war going?

Someone needs to ask that question.

- Bill

]]> By: Fred Gardner http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-4031784 Fred Gardner Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:18:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4031784 I heard one of these pieces this morning - in it, a woman says "I lost two loved ones to Al Qaida - one a fireman in 9/11 and one a soldier in Iraq". In one sentence she commits two falsehoods, connecting Iraq and 9/11 and blaming all soldier deaths in Iraq on Al Qaida. Rank and stinking propaganda. I heard one of these pieces this morning – in it, a woman says “I lost two loved ones to Al Qaida – one a fireman in 9/11 and one a soldier in Iraq”. In one sentence she commits two falsehoods, connecting Iraq and 9/11 and blaming all soldier deaths in Iraq on Al Qaida. Rank and stinking propaganda.

]]> By: Charles Knowles http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-4031693 Charles Knowles Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:02:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4031693 If an advertising front by Dems were put together to merely mention the great hidden lie about what we are doing to assorted countries, people might be able to think about it. Yes, their lies need to be cut off at the knees. Start with Depleted Uranium. The ruin in Iraq, particularly, is of Biblical scale. Maybe this is a foot in the sales door. The chicken (hawks) that go there will bring their poisons home to roost, and soon. The Rightist, even Leftist, supposition that things are far, far away seems to have overlooked things like, oh, air currents. And different currents, too, those that come of having babies after being drenched in this madness and toxin. Opposition and resistance to the Ari-currents. Opposition and resistance to the DU-bya cabal! If an advertising front by Dems were put together to merely mention the great hidden lie about what we are doing to assorted countries, people might be able to think about it. Yes, their lies need to be cut off at the knees. Start with Depleted Uranium. The ruin in Iraq, particularly, is of Biblical scale. Maybe this is a foot in the sales door. The chicken (hawks) that go there will bring their poisons home to roost, and soon. The Rightist, even Leftist, supposition that things are far, far away seems to have overlooked things like, oh, air currents. And different currents, too, those that come of having babies after being drenched in this madness and toxin.

Opposition and resistance to the Ari-currents. Opposition and resistance to the DU-bya cabal!

]]> By: Degriz http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-4031682 Degriz Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:24:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4031682 Follow the money people, might give you a good idea of exactly who stands to gain the most from continuing war, certainly isnt the American or Iraqi peoples Follow the money people, might give you a good idea of exactly who stands to gain the most from continuing war, certainly isnt the American or Iraqi peoples

]]> By: ERM http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-4031680 ERM Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:20:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4031680 Saw one this morning as I got ready for work. It was the "we've already had one 11 sept attack" one. My wife asked, "wtf was that?" Saw one this morning as I got ready for work. It was the “we’ve already had one 11 sept attack” one. My wife asked, “wtf was that?”

]]> By: Free RePubic Readers have sex with their mothers http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-4031599 Free RePubic Readers have sex with their mothers Thu, 23 Aug 2007 07:28:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4031599 >Osama spokes-flak and associate planner >,”Dr.” Zawahiri, has referenced the weak-will > of the American Left Valiant Penus Methhead Meagan, are you saying we need to base our foreign policy decisions on the rantings of a foreign jihadi? why do you want to give the guy that much power? Should we base our foreign policy on a p1ssing contest to try and prove this guy wrong? >Osama spokes-flak and associate planner
>,”Dr.” Zawahiri, has referenced the weak-will
> of the American Left

Valiant Penus Methhead Meagan, are you saying we need to base our foreign policy decisions on the rantings of a foreign jihadi? why do you want to give the guy that much power? Should we base our foreign policy on a p1ssing contest to try and prove this guy wrong?

]]> By: The Oracle http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-4030885 The Oracle Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:30:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4030885 Wasn't Ari Fleischer one of the criminal Republicans in the Bush administration who exposed covert CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson's identity while on a presidential trip to Africa??? Why isn't he in jail for having endangered our national security? Why is Karl Rove? Why isn't Scooter Libby? Why isn't Dick Cheney? Why isn't George W. Bush? Why aren't any of the criminals in the Bush administration locked up behind bars, at a safe distance from our government and our nation's children? Wasn’t Ari Fleischer one of the criminal Republicans in the Bush administration who exposed covert CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson’s identity while on a presidential trip to Africa???

Why isn’t he in jail for having endangered our national security? Why is Karl Rove? Why isn’t Scooter Libby? Why isn’t Dick Cheney? Why isn’t George W. Bush? Why aren’t any of the criminals in the Bush administration locked up behind bars, at a safe distance from our government and our nation’s children?

]]> By: rrose http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-4030708 rrose Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:00:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4030708 Ari Fleischer was just on Hardball and was asked the name of the disabled veteran that appeared in his ad promoting continued support of the war. He couldn't name the vet. Apparently Ari doesn't care enough about the disabled vet to learn his name, but is more than willing to use him to help spew his propaganda. Ari Fleischer was just on Hardball and was asked the name of the disabled veteran that appeared in his ad promoting continued support of the war. He couldn’t name the vet. Apparently Ari doesn’t care enough about the disabled vet to learn his name, but is more than willing to use him to help spew his propaganda.

]]> By: agent fkd http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-4030698 agent fkd Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:55:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4030698 i'm sick of hearing this sh@t. why is it so far-fetched to believe that israeli agents are being put in powerful positions around the US govt to drum up support for a war that supports is self-interests in the region. defense companies, with the money they will make off it, just follow along. i just shake my head at all this. and if i'm labeled a nazi or anti-semite for stating my opinion thats foolish bullsh@t. i'm sick of them using that excuse looking for peoples apathy. thats why every year of so they find another israeli spy in the govt stealing our secrets and they barely get a slap on the wrist for it. i’m sick of hearing this sh@t. why is it so far-fetched to believe that israeli agents are being put in powerful positions around the US govt to drum up support for a war that supports is self-interests in the region. defense companies, with the money they will make off it, just follow along. i just shake my head at all this.

and if i’m labeled a nazi or anti-semite for stating my opinion thats foolish bullsh@t. i’m sick of them using that excuse looking for peoples apathy. thats why every year of so they find another israeli spy in the govt stealing our secrets and they barely get a slap on the wrist for it.

]]> By: Susan Elizabeth Siens http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-4030442 Susan Elizabeth Siens Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:08:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4030442 These ads sound like threats: "Support the continued occupation of Iraq, or we'll make sure another 9/11 happens." And yes, these people are making LOTS of money in Iraq, lots of money while Iraqis and Americans die to make the rich richer. Please, everyone, call the Freedom Watch number (877-222-8001) and let them know what you think. These ads sound like threats: “Support the continued occupation of Iraq, or we’ll make sure another 9/11 happens.” And yes, these people are making LOTS of money in Iraq, lots of money while Iraqis and Americans die to make the rich richer. Please, everyone, call the Freedom Watch number (877-222-8001) and let them know what you think.

]]> By: Diane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-4030304 Diane Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:35:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4030304 Is this what our foreign policy has come to? Propaganda wars. Privately funded by Republicans? Are they making money off of the death and destruction? Because unless they are making money there is no logical reason to perpetuate the occupation. It is an occupation, not a war. War implies that there is something to fight for. What is wrong with our country and our people in power? Are the rich so devoid of a soul that they just don't care? This is insane. Is this what our foreign policy has come to? Propaganda wars. Privately funded by Republicans? Are they making money off of the death and destruction? Because unless they are making money there is no logical reason to perpetuate the occupation. It is an occupation, not a war. War implies that there is something to fight for. What is wrong with our country and our people in power? Are the rich so devoid of a soul that they just don’t care?

This is insane.

]]> By: Koe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-4030006 Koe Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:24:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4030006 It's not a front group for the WH if it's privately funded. What sense does that make? It’s not a front group for the WH if it’s privately funded. What sense does that make?

]]> By: dlet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/comment-page-2/#comment-4029659 dlet Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:31:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/ari-fleischer-returns/#comment-4029659 We are? How? Comment by michael Can't you see it happening? Are your eyes open? We are? How?

Comment by michael

Can’t you see it happening? Are your eyes open?

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