Bolton: I ‘Absolutely’ Hope The U.S. Will Attack Iran In The Next ‘Six Months’
Bolton: I ‘Absolutely’ Hope The U.S. Will Attack Iran In The Next ‘Six Months’
Yesterday, Raw Story pointed out that former CIA operative Bob Baer told Fox News that the Bush administration will likely attack Iran in the coming months. “Iran policy is on close hold, but the feeling is we will hit the Islamic Revolutionary Guard corps sometime next six months or so,” said Baer.
Today, former U.N. ambassador John Bolton appeared on Fox News and responded. He said that while he couldn’t confirm Baer’s statements, he “absolutely” hoped they were true:
HEMMER: One final step here, too, that I want to take with you. You told one of our producers earlier today that you don’t know if it’s true — and you’ve made that clear in our interview here, that you don’t know what the odds are or are not against that — but you hope it’s true. Why do you hope it’s true?
BOLTON: Absolutely. I hope Iran understands that we are very serious, that we are determined they are not going to get a nuclear weapon capability, and unless they change the strategic decision they’ve been pursuing for close to 20 years, that that’s something they better factor into their calculations.
Watch it:
Bolton’s calls for strikes against Iran mirror those of other neocons, such as Bill Kristol and Michael Rubin, who also pushed for the Iraq invasion. Bolton’s claim that “Iran is interfering in Iraq and is posing a direct threat to our troops” is not a reason to strike the country. In reality, both Gen. Peter Pace and the National Intelligence Estimate have confirmed that Iran is “not likely” to be a major driver of violence in Iraq.
Transcript:
HEMMER: The Bush administration reportedly deciding to designate Iran’s Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization.
So, what does that mean, huh? Well, according to the former CIA operative Bob Baer, it means the U.S. could be gearing up to launch some sort of military strike on Iran. Bob Baer was here yesterday morning. Listen:
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
FORMER CIA OPERATIVE BOB BAER: Iran policy is on close hold, but the feeling is we will hit the Islamic Revolutionary Guard corps sometime next six months or so.
HEMMER: With such an — that would start another war. Is the administration up for this, Bob?
BAER: Well, it’s not exactly it’s a war. It’s what the administration is convinced of, is that the Iranians are interfering in Iraq and the rest of the Gulf.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HEMMER: Well, that certainly got our attention. So we asked John Bolton, former U.S. ambassador to the U.N., for his take on that today.
Sir, good morning. Welcome back.
BOLTON: Good morning. Glad to be here.
HEMMER: Bob Baer says within six months his sources inform him that there will be a strike on Iran. Do you agree with that?
BOLTON: Well, I don’t think one can tell one way or the other. I don’t think there’s any doubt, based on the information we have, that Iran is interfering in Iraq and is posing a direct threat to our troops.
So I think if President Bush as commander in chief believes that information is accurate, he is fully entitled to take defensive measures, which could include going after the Revolutionary Guards inside Iran. [...]
HEMMER: One final step here, too, that I want to take with you. You told one of our producers earlier today that you don’t know if it’s true — and you’ve made that clear in our interview here, that you don’t know what the odds are or are not against that — but you hope it’s true. Why do you hope it’s true?
BOLTON: Absolutely. I hope Iran understands that we are very serious, that we are determined they are not going to get a nuclear weapon capability, and unless they change the strategic decision they’ve been pursuing for close to 20 years, that that’s something they better factor into their calculations.
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BUSH: Iran is interfering with our illegal occupation of Iraq and the systematic control of their oil. Iran is bad. I am good. They need to be bombed. Plus Cheney said it would be good for us…um I mean him.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:46 pmWe can assume Bolton will be on the ground first, leading the charge?
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:48 pmWhy do GDumbya, Darth Cheney, John (”Got Milk?”) Bolton and Little Billy Kristol have a death wish?
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:49 pmWhy do GDumbya, Darth Cheney, John (â€Got Milk?â€) Bolton and Little Billy Kristol have a death wish?
Comment by tom
Actually, technically speaking, what they have is a “somebody else’s death wish”. It’s a slightly different thing, no?
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:51 pmHow much blood is enough to bathe in for these people?
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:52 pmWhen I heard him say we (USA) were still in Europe to keep the Nazis back/in check I almost fell over. This guy cannot be for real!
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:54 pmTell you what, mr walrus (koo-koo-ka-choo) we’ll take your concerns about Iran’s WMD desires seriously when you produce the WMD that Iraq had.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:54 pmIf we have any evidence that they have helped or have personally attacked US troops in Iraq, we need to bomb the crap out of them at a minimum. Full scale invasion would have to follow if they were still content on attacking us in Iraq and building nuke bombs.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:54 pmSorry that was on BBC…
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:54 pmwhat would the consequences be after attacking Iran
1/ terrorism worse
2/ lots of innocent people dead
3/ military buildups worldwide
4/ The worlds media could not accept another preemptive strike based on a LIE
5/ Anti-Americanism worldwide ( on a massive scale )
6/ A Less safe world
7/ The UN rendered pretty useless at stopping war
IS IT WORTH IT – - quite simply NO
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:55 pmHow bout doin a Dr Strangelove Slim Pickins maneuver, where Bolt-on rides the bomb down the chute, except the only payload is his fat ass.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:56 pm…Neoconic retard lying from his ivory tower. Psychopathic killer. Idiotic schemer. Man, you shoulda seen him kissing Richard Cheney’s butt. He is the eggman. He is the walrus. goo goo ga joob.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:56 pmWhat troops would we use for a full scale invasion of Iran Roger? How would we then secure a country more populated, and 2x as large as Iraq? How would we prevent the Russians and the Chinese from sending their troops after us, after we threatened one of the largest energy partners?
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:56 pmOne has to be a traitor to even have the gall to reject using military strikes against Iran, now the biggest threat in the ME as measured by its terrorist-backing. Everyone from the Iraqi government to Petraeus to the Bush admin. actually concurs that technology and militia terrorists are streaming across the Iran-Iraq border to the detriment of US forces and Iraqi civilians. It’s not that the US has no evidence of this; rather, they have consolidated indications that all point to Iran. You’d have to be an Iranian-supporting Islamophile to deny Iran’s involvement in Iraq; after all Maliki was Iranian-backed and Al-Sadr (the little terrorist wannabe) gets active support from the terrorists in Iran. So, Bolton’s 100% right to want to bomb Iranian facilities in order to discourage them from sending soldier-killing tech across the border. The US military can do this because all it would take is the Air Force bombing facilities while the Army/Marines still contend with Iraq.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:57 pm“Iran policy is on close hold, but the feeling is we will hit the Islamic Revolutionary Guard corps sometime next six months or so,†said Baer.
Won’t a limited strike on a small part of the Iranian amred forces result in solidifying a regime that is bent on defending itself from an attacker? Won’t this escalate the tensions and result in a widening of armed conflict in the region……oh yeah that’s the point, isn’t it.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:57 pmFull scale invasion would have to follow if they were still content on attacking us in Iraq and building nuke bombs.
Comment by Roger_Roger — August 22, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
Uh, “content” or “intent”??? Just checking. Of course, by your logic, if we’re already on the ground in Iran, attacking them, which I’ve heard has been going on for months, would the Iraninas be justified in attacking us?
Just asking…
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:57 pmFull scale invasion would have to follow if they were still content on attacking us in Iraq and building nuke bombs.
Comment by Roger_Roger — August 22, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
I assume that you’ll be one of the first in, right?
Here are a few links to help you out:
http://www.goarmy.com
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:58 pmhttp://www.marines.com
http://www.navy.com
http://www.airforce.com
Gotta wonder when Russia, China, South America, the rest of North America, Africa and the rest of Asia say ENOUGH, and invade and occupy the US.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:58 pmwe need to bomb the crap out of them at a minimum. Full scale invasion would have to follow if they were still content on attacking us in Iraq and building nuke bombs.
Comment by Roger_Roger — August 22, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
How can you follow this “logic?” HOW MUCH BLOOD IS ENOUGH TO SATISFY YOU WARMONGERS?
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:58 pmBolton: I ‘Absolutely’ Hope The U.S. Will Attack Iran In The Next ‘Six Months’
I hope a PATRIOTIC US Soldier MAIMED for the LIES of Bush,
FRAGS Bolton.
Another unamerican TRAITOR gone!!!
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:58 pmHe is simply selling the PNAC(Project For New American Century).
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:59 pmNo surprise there…Neocons talk wars, but they don’t fight wars.
Let us hope that the first wave will include all those discredited senior administration officials…the list to too long to name them all. Have them led by Colin Powell and Tommy Franks – let those two put the spine in the chicken hawks.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:59 pmYou’d have to be an Iranian-supporting Islamophile to deny Iran’s involvement in Iraq; after all Maliki was Iranian-backed and Al-Sadr (the little terrorist wannabe) gets active support from the terrorists in Iran.
Comment by BOLTONwasonlychanceatUNreform — August 22, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Completely wrong. As-Sadr denies any involvement with Iran. You’re thinking of the Badr brigades, who are fighting the Mahdi army.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:00 pmwhat would the consequences be after attacking Iran
1/ terrorism worse
2/ lots of innocent people dead
3/ military buildups worldwide
4/ The worlds media could not accept another preemptive strike based on a LIE
5/ Anti-Americanism worldwide ( on a massive scale )
6/ A Less safe world
7/ The UN rendered pretty useless at stopping war
IS IT WORTH IT – - quite simply NO
Comment by Tobey Tall
ALSO,
Intel has determined that if we attack IRAN, the Shiite majority in IRAQ will rise up and SLAUGHTER the US soldiers and TRAITOR contractors in retaliation…
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:01 pm“If we have any evidence that they have helped or have personally attacked US troops in Iraq, we need to bomb the crap out of them at a minimum. Full scale invasion would have to follow if they were still content on attacking us in Iraq and building nuke bombs.
Comment by Roger_Roger — August 22, 2007″
i agree with you for once! we can’t keep looking the other way and continue to allow saudi arabia to support the sunni insurgents who are responsible for the majority of u.s. military casualties in iraq.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:01 pmSo, Bolton’s 100% right to want to bomb Iranian facilities in order to discourage them from sending soldier-killing tech across the border. The US military can do this because all it would take is the Air Force bombing facilities while the Army/Marines still contend with Iraq.
Comment by BOLTONwasonlychanceatUNreform
Haha…hahaha.hahahahahahaha….insanely comedic. Good job.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:02 pmShorter BOLTONwasonlychanceatUNreform:
You mean that there is more than one KIND of Shiite? Do tell.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:02 pmCompletely wrong. As-Sadr denies any involvement with Iran.
And of course the leftonians believe a fud like Sadr without reservation. Lefturds ALWAYS believe the thugs and dictators, its their own little illness.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:03 pmGo for it John.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:06 pm(Hint… you should go in on your belly,
using your mustache to sweep for mines…)
Gosh, what a fantastic diplomat.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:06 pmI absolutely, absolutely hope this grump gets deported to Israel in January 2009.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:06 pmAnd of course the leftonians believe a fud like Sadr without reservation. Lefturds ALWAYS believe the thugs and dictators, its their own little illness.
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird — August 22, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
And I suppose it’s so much better to fund and support them, like conservatives do.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:06 pmShiites:
The best known and the one with most adherents is the Twelvers which have a large percentage in Iran 60% and Iraq 45%; the others are the Ismaili or Sevener, and Zaidiyyah.
Alawites and Druzes consider themselves Shias, although this is sometimes disputed by mainstream Shias. The Sufi orders among the Shias are the Alevi, Bektashi, Kubrawiya, Noorbakhshi, Oveyssi, Qizilbashi, Hamadani and Fatimid orders and denominations.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:08 pmAnd this, ladies and gentlemen, was the guy Bush sent to the UN to talk America’s enemies into maybe being a bit nicer.
Yeah. Think about it.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:08 pmArak is Irans only heavy water nuclear plant than can produce Plutonium needed for a bomb
and that aint ready in construction till 2009
do you think the world will fall for another Blantant LIE
Geroge Bush and the neocons have been crying WOLF for 5 years and in the last 5 years Bush has said nothing with any ring of truth in it
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:08 pm“Lefturds ALWAYS believe the thugs and dictators, its their own little illness.
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird — August 22, 2007″
and you look the other way when it comes to pakistan and saudi arabia because you either like being lied to or because you enjoy doing what you’re told and not thinking a lick for yourself.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:08 pmAl-Sadr has constantly attacked Iraqi factions (SCIRI and to a lesser extent Da’wa) that spent their exile from Iraq in Iran. The claim that he is an Iranian stooge is absurd; if anyone has been the stooge, it has been Maliki and his predecessor (not to mention the neocons’ favorite, Chalabi).
No one but an ignorant doctrinaire could claim otherwise.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:08 pmThe US military can do this because all it would take is the Air Force bombing facilities while the Army/Marines still contend with Iraq.
Comment by BOLTONwasonlychanceatUNreform — August 22, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
and largely incorrect. It takes boots on the ground to truly defeat an enemy. Airplanes can do lots of damage, but it will still take ground troops. Read up on military history and strategy sometime.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:09 pmAnd I suppose it’s so much better to fund and support them, like conservatives do.
Or become like them, as liberals do.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:09 pm“If we have any evidence that they have helped or have personally attacked US troops in Iraq, we need to bomb the crap out of them at a minimum. Full scale invasion would have to follow if they were still content on attacking us in Iraq and building nuke bombs.
Comment by Roger_Roger”
Except that the only evidence we get is from peope who lied us into a war on the exact same evidence they’re offering now. Why would anyone believe these lying scum. the only people who still support bush are people like BOLTONwasonlychanceatUNreform or whatever it’s name is. Seriously, roger, roger, aren’t you embarrsessed by the kind of people on your side here at TP?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:10 pmAnd my fear is that Bush is just insane enough to do it. Does he think that Iran is going to sit idly by once we bomb their country. Does he really want to take on the Iranian military. Does he really want to start World War III? Because that is what he will be doing.
Hopefully our military has had enough and will mutiny rather than attacking Iran. I read some time ago that there were officers in the military that said that is what they would do if we attacked Iran. I’m not sure if they were talking about nuking Iran or just attacking Iran, though.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:11 pmHmmm, since a great deal of the explosives that are being used for the IED’s is coming from the pillaged weapons site at al qaaqa’ that we were supposed to be guarding after the fall of Baghdad, shouldn’t we be attacking ourselves since we are supplying explosives to the insurgents?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:11 pmAirplanes can do lots of damage,
As a simple point of historical fact, air power, no matter how “precise”, no matter how it is intended, has the primary effect of killing lots of civilians.
Advocating a bombing campaign against anyone is tantamount to calling for the butchery of innocents. It’s only clean and antiseptic for the party with air supremacy.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:12 pmand you look the other way when it comes to pakistan and saudi arabia
I know at least one democrat POTUS wannabe who wont look the other way.
Vote Warmonger Obama ‘08
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:12 pmhttp://foxattacks.com/blog/10777-fox-attacks-iran
all part of the plan…
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:12 pmTime to put trolls out of their misery, time to have them relinquish the power they don’t deserve, and it’s time to have the neo-cons ideologically disarmed and taxed into the slums of Harlem.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:13 pmTobey Tall
Just continuing your list:
8/ Annoying China, America’s No 1 creditor, which gets around 50% of its oil from Iran.
9/ Cutting world oil production by hitting the world’s second largest oil supplier.
10/ Possibly solidifying the whole middle east against America by proving, once and for all, that America is out to conquor the lot of them.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:13 pm“4/ The worlds media could not accept another preemptive strike based on a LIE
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 22, 2007″
What lie?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:13 pmkeep parroting your facist talking points pretty bird, eventually someone will come and clean your cage.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:13 pmFine. Load Bolton into a cannon and fire him at Iran.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:13 pm.
“Full scale invasion would have to follow if they were still content on attacking us in Iraq and building nuke bombs.
Comment by Roger_Roger”
So Roger, exactly how are we going to invade Iran? What troops will we use? Will we use the worn out troops that we have in Iraq? Do you have any idea how many people there are in the Iranian military?
Also, when are you going to sign up?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:14 pmSo, Bolton’s 100% right to want to bomb Iranian facilities in order to discourage them from sending soldier-killing tech across the border. The US military can do this because all it would take is the Air Force bombing facilities while the Army/Marines still contend with Iraq.
Comment by BOLTONwasonlychanceatUNreform — August 22, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
You really honestly believe Iran would be “discouraged” from helping the Shia in Iraq if we bombed them? Just like Al Qaeda has been “discouraged” by our presence in the Middle East from beefing up its ranks?
No, if we bombed Iran, it would strengthen their resolve. Think about it. If another country dropped bombs on the USA, would it discourage us, or would it make us mad as hell?
Once we officially invite Iran into the war, a ground invasion will be necessary to maintain any kind of control, at minimum. We don’t have any resources left for that without reinstating the draft and conscripting our people in large numbers.
Then, of course, once we stalemate on Iran, we will look to see who is helping them — which will lead to some boneheaded politician advocating bombing China and Russia.
Before we get sucked further into the quicksand, we need to seriously think.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:14 pmComment by troll — August 22, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
How about you stop posting?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:14 pmComment by michael — August 22, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
What earth?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:15 pmWhat lie?
Comment by michael
“michael has functioning synapses…”
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:15 pmWhat I wonder is why the administration is so wanting to go into Iran on skeptical intel to say the least some saying Iran is aiding insurgents some saying it is not. While we have a ton of confirmed information on Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and a ongoing resurgent of the Taliban in Afghanistan yet the administration is reluctance to do anything about those situations. Makes it hard to trust this administration as it has been completely wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:15 pmLefturds ALWAYS believe the thugs and dictators, its their own little illness.
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird
In comparison with WMDs claims… yep.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:16 pmFull scale invasion would have to follow if they were still content on attacking us in Iraq and building nuke bombs.
Comment by Roger_Roger Debate_Dodger — August 22, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
…And I hope, I mean I truly hope, that it is YOUR children and grandchildren, neices and nephews, on that very FRONT LINE when the “full scale” invasion of Iran happens
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:16 pm(flippin’ arm chair chickenhawk)
“Everyone from the Iraqi government to Petraeus to the Bush admin. actually concurs that technology and militia terrorists are streaming across the Iran-Iraq border to the detriment of US forces and Iraqi civilians.”
If that is the truth, then where is the proof. All we have thus far is the word of our government, which has often in the past been lies.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:16 pmWhat lie?
Comment by michael’s ann toy — August 22, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
Really? How so?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:17 pmNo, if we bombed Iran, it would strengthen their resolve. Think about it. If another country dropped bombs on the USA, would it discourage us, or would it make us mad as hell?
Once we officially invite Iran into the war, a ground invasion will be necessary to maintain any kind of control, at minimum. We don’t have any resources left for that without reinstating the draft and conscripting our people in large numbers.
Comment by missmolly — August 22, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Not to mention that the largely pro-American people of Iran will immediately turn against us once we start blowing them up.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:17 pmNeo-con propaganda will be nonstop for the next 6 months.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:17 pmThen—ka-boom!
The plan is already set. Only need to prep the idiot public.
Do you pay for FOX? You pay to be propagandized.
keep parroting your facist talking points pretty bird, eventually someone will come and clean your cage.
Someone other than you, I suppose? Paper tiger boy.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:17 pmComment by michael — August 22, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
What 28%-er?
You.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:17 pmHehehe. So easy to convert personal frustrations into warmongering.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:18 pmIn comparison with WMDs claims… yep.
Really? How so?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:18 pmAnother Chimp interim appointment who couldn’t even get approved as our UN Ambassador by a Republican-dominated Senate in 2005 because of his extremely disturbed psychopathology.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:18 pmSomeone other than you, I suppose? Paper tiger boy.
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird
Funny from a keyboard commando master.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:18 pmSomeone other than you, I suppose? Paper tiger boy.
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird — August 22, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
ha another vietnam reference classic!!! When did you get your whitehouse talking points?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:19 pmReally? How so?
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird
Uh…Im sorry that your double digit just missed that one.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:19 pm“Full scale invasion would have to follow if they were still content on attacking us in Iraq and building nuke bombs.”
Comment by Roger_Roger — August 22, 2007
And where, exactly, are you going to find the people necessary to carry out this full-scale invasion? We are out of available combat units:
http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=116&sid=1225074
I take it you believe this cause is righteous enough to reinstate the draft.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:20 pmPretty Pretty Bird
1) It makes a damn site more sense then hitting Iran would. Pakistan is a long term enemy of one of America’s long term allies (India), has a history of selling nuclear technology to rogue states (North Korea) and is currently home to the Taliban.
2) What Obama actually said was more along the lines of boosting aid to Pakistan, trying to get Pakistan to go along with the idea of wiping out the Taliban within their borders, and only once diplomacy has failed, leading a short term mission into the region next to Afghanistan to wipe out the Taliban. – contrast that to Shrub prior to the Iraq war.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:20 pmSomeone other than you, I suppose?
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird
I can drop by…
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:20 pmLefturds ALWAYS believe the thugs and dictators, its their own little illness.
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird — August 22, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
We don’t believe Great Leader Bush anymore – he has lied his credibility away, just like Bolton and Condi. Of course, Cheney never had any to begin with.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:20 pmSo let me get this straight. The President has the sole authority to define groups of people as terrorist organizations. Bush is getting ready to declare the army of another country a terrorist organization. Under the Authorization of Force passed by Congress, he can then attack at will. Geneva Conventions do not apply. And he can do this until he runs out of countries.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:21 pmShameful man.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:21 pm“Full scale invasion would have to follow if they were still content on attacking us in Iraq and building nuke bombs.
Comment by Roger_Rogerâ€
So Iran is attacking you in Iraq?
OH, is there proof of that or just another crappy Power Point?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:21 pmWhat Bolt-on and the trolls (good name for a band?) are missing is that the Iranians, with one communication, can unleash a full scale attack by Sadrist and other militias in Iraq that would lead to the worst massacre of US troops since, well, maybe Yalu.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:22 pm“And of course the leftonians believe a fud like Sadr without reservation. Lefturds ALWAYS believe the thugs and dictators, its their own little illness.”
And, of course, the rightonians believe a fud like Bush without reservation. Righturds ALWAYS believe the thugs and dictators, it’s their own little illness.
There, I fixed it for you.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:22 pmAs soon as these asshats drop one unprovoked bomb in Iran we should gather up all these neocon chickenhawks, trolls, flying monkeys and the staff of FAUX News and send them gift wrapped to Amedinejad. A little diplomacy gesture on behalf of true Americans could go a long way (so we wouldn’t have to fight them here)
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:23 pmRUCerious
No, what they are really missing is that China is not going to sit quietly by while America causes a fuel crisis for it. China has a lot of dollars it can sell, and America owes it a lot of money…
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:25 pm“Full scale invasion would have to follow if they were still content on attacking us in Iraq and building nuke bombs.
Comment by Roger_Rogerâ€
You do know that radio active material can be detected from satelites right. If they had any material you would be able to tell its exact location in Iran. If that information could be provided to the public that would be the smoking gun but it isn’t there that is why the government hasn’t presented it. Start thinking for yourself.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:25 pmAnd he can do this until he runs out of countries.
Comment by Joseph — August 22, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Or out of time. He only has seventeen months left. But he could get a few countries invaded in that time.
Maybe he is thinking like the retreating Iraqi army as they left Kuwait in 1991 — we can’t win, but we can leave a horrible mess for someone else. And then they torched the oil fields.
Perhaps Bush is just boneheaded enough to have adopted that strategy.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:26 pmChina has a lot of dollars it can sell, and America owes it a lot of money…
Comment by Bruce Gorton
Wouldn’t that be a hoot if China sells a big chunk of US debt to say… North Korea? or even Iran… they’ve gotten pretty cozy with Russia in the past week or so as well.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:28 pmIran interfering in Iraq! Supplying WMD’s! Sending in special forces! Threating the Government of Iraq!
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:28 pmThank goodness America wouldn’t do any thing like that.
Watch this and weep:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32dNtm-yX1w&mode=related&search=
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:29 pmThe sooner Iran is annihilated THE BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Another day, another troll with a completely pointless, unjustified comment…
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:29 pmhere we go.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:29 pmThe sooner Iran is annihilated THE BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
Join the army and get your ass over there if you’re so brave. Unless you’re a cowardly chichenshit punk who talks the talk but wont walk the walk?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:29 pmAnd of course the leftonians believe a fud like Sadr without reservation. Lefturds ALWAYS believe the thugs and dictators, its their own little illness.
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird — August 22, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
Crank up the re-history machine for more neocon distortions of the known universe. Because it has been the “conservatives”, for decades, who have argued in favor of supporting thugs and dictators for reasons of realpolitik. Even for a truly butt-ignorant troll, this lie is nearly a new record in ignorance.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:30 pmWhat Bolt-on and the trolls (good name for a band?) are missing is that the Iranians, with one communication, can unleash a full scale attack by Sadrist and other militias in Iraq that would lead to the worst massacre of US troops since, well, maybe Yalu.
Comment by RUCerious
EXACTLY. And Intel TOLD Bush so several YEARS ago…
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:30 pmBolton’s calls for strikes against Iran mirror those of other neocons, such as Bill Kristol and Michael Rubin, who also pushed for the Iraq invasion.
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They are not calling for an “invasion of Iran”, they are calling for airstrikes against Iran’s nuclear facilities and also, perhaps, certain Republican Gaurd facilities….maybe an oil refinery as well, as punisment.
No one is calling for an invasion with ground troops.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:31 pmAnother day, another troll with a completely pointless, unjustified comment…
Comment by missmolly — August 22, 2007 @ 3:29 pm
Same old useless Mr Pee.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:31 pmLook, the Republicans know they aren’t going to keep the Whitehouse in 08. They’ve done too much damage to their own party for that to happen… so they plan to make just as big a mess in the world as possible so the next president, an big evil Democrat, can’t do anything while in office except clean up the mess.
After all, we wouldn’t want a president pushing progressive agendas, now would we?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:32 pmuseless Mr Pee
Is Mr. P still here? Damn…
Hey, Mr. P! Keep up the good work!
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:33 pmNo one is calling for an invasion with ground troops.
Comment by Ringo the Gringo
No one called for a “surge” in Iraq until TRAITOR Bush.
Even his Daddy’s lawyer, Baker, trying to SAVE his miserable skin, said to GET OUT.
Bush didn’t listen.
The result is ANOTHER 14 US Soldiers DEAD today for the LIES of this TRAITOR coxucker PUNK Bush…
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:34 pmWHY is this administration is so wanting to go into Iran
Because Irans Oil is on the Iraqi border in Khuzestan that contains 90% of Iran’s oil wealth.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:34 pmSame old useless Mr Pee.
Comment by gummitch
He’s name-jacking today as well.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:34 pmBurn out.
“They are not calling for an “invasion of Iranâ€, they are calling for airstrikes against Iran’s nuclear facilities and also, perhaps, certain Republican Gaurd facilities….maybe an oil refinery as well, as punisment”
they’re not calling for an invasion of Saudi Arabia either, even though it would be more intellectually honest with regard to their reasoning.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:34 pmSo let me get this straight. The President has the sole authority to define groups of people as terrorist organizations. Bush is getting ready to declare the army of another country a terrorist organization. Under the Authorization of Force passed by Congress, he can then attack at will. Geneva Conventions do not apply. And he can do this until he runs out of countries.
Comment by Joseph — August 22, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Bingo!
These people make Machiavelli look like a two-bit amateur.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmThey are not calling for an “invasion of Iranâ€, they are calling for airstrikes against Iran’s nuclear facilities and also, perhaps, certain Republican Gaurd facilities….maybe an oil refinery as well, as punisment.
No one is calling for an invasion with ground troops.
Comment by Ringo the Gringo
And Iran will just sit back and take it. But thats the beuty of it. If they do just take it the US is strong like bear. If they react and attack back then this would give the neo-cons the reason to fulfill Armageddeon.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmBetter yet: target John Bolton — this guy is truly the enema of the people.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmWhat you mention is not Pretty Pretty Bird’s point, in fact, you have argued against a straw man and not the real position.
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Nice try.
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Comment by Makukoracha — August 22, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
Really? How so?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmREAD BUSHES BATTLEPLANS FOR IRAN
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11743.htm
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmComment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
hmm seems like your ideas are REAL intelligent how many people how posted to your site 1 or 2 I lose count. ……….. Childish reply in 3,2,1
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmBecause Irans Oil is on the Iraqi border in Khuzestan that contains 90% of Iran’s oil wealth.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:36 pmThe stupidity of the Rightards is astounding, they automaticly fall in line at every lie their neocon masters throw at them….you Rightards are a bunch of pathetic sheep.
Don’t the lies about Iraq by the Neocan’ts give you sort of a hint about the lies they are telling you now? Nope, you’re just not bright enough.
And just how many of you Rightard Chickenhawks are gonna go join up to fight for their lies? Oh, right, non of you…because you are all chickenhawks.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:37 pmyou filthy liberals? God Bless the united states after advocating the death of an entire country by Makarios.
War hasn’t been declared anywhere yet. Not Iraq, Not Afghanistan. Not anywhere. All have a say in this country and we will continue to voice opinions and ask for fact before the likes of you start pulling any triggers.
The hatred is thick within this group. Fear has turned these people into the beasts they think they have to attack.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:37 pmSo typical. And in view of the fact that the inspectors have VERIFIED that Iran is in fact building a POWER PLANT, I’d say we’re on t slippery slope to Iraq II.
The sad part is that the Democrats will support it.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:38 pma nifty “How to” video on Resisting the Drums of War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81UKnb5zJbM
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:38 pm“Because Irans Oil is on the Iraqi border in Khuzestan that contains 90% of Iran’s oil wealth.
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 22, 2007″
go a step further: replacing the National Iranian Oil Company’s control of that 90% with the control of all the big oil companies.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:38 pmCheerleaders for Zionism.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:39 pm(I don’t have any ideas of my own, I need other sources that I can distort and malign… Thanks!)
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:39 pmHere’s a counterpunch to your silly seditious video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBMiaSinDpw&mode=related&search=
BOOM!
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:40 pmAsk the neocons whats the point of having all the tea in China with no world to live in
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:40 pm#84
I don’t know what your point was in posting that link. However, it sure likes the recruiters are getting desperate. Go back and read the comments. They are supposed to look like they are coming from 17-year-olds but I suspect that they were really written by recruiters who are trying to make enlistment look like a normal thing to do.
They are falling behind their recruitment goals and pulling out all the stops. We can’t continue GDumbya’s dirty little avoidable war in Iraq — much less invade Iran. We need more canon fodder.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:41 pmBecause Irans Oil is on the Iraqi border in Khuzestan that contains 90% of Iran’s oil wealth.
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 22, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
Wait wait wait – what ARE you suggesting? Are you suggesting that this war might be for OIL instead of FREEDOM?
The fact that we’re saber-rattling against Iran at the same time that The Kingly (al-Maliki) is in talks with Iran about shipping crude across the border to use Iran’s refining facilities is PURELY COINCIDENTAL
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:41 pmI’m losing count of trolls here. Some idiot named ‘Makarios’ is your latest to the crap pile.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:42 pmFrom “Crooks and Liars”
DUBYAT!!!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/08/22/mid-day-open-thread-5/
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:42 pmTobey Tall,
What was the now defunct organization called that had Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, among others, predicting a New World Order of sorts?
The one that predicted America could become the only superpower if it accessed the Middle East oil?
The one that stated this would be a long, drawn out process, unless a catastrophic event, like Pearl Harbor, were to happen?
What was that name again?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:42 pm#116: LOL! That’s what you’d like to believe.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:42 pmBolton is absolutely correct.
Time to toss that shitty little country against a wall.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:42 pmThis guy is/was a diplomat? uh, yeah….
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:44 pm#116: LOL! That’s what you’d like to believe.
Comment by Im filthy, liberals — August 22, 2007 @ 3:42 pm
Really? How so?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:44 pmEnlist, you liberal geeks. I bet none of you have what it takes to be a US Marine!
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:45 pmI’d like to know what conservatives think will be the result of striking Iran. Not the day after, I mean a week after.
You can support dramatic action all you want, but (and this is the tough part for some conservatives) you got to think about what you’re going to do after you punch the air and say “YES! Take that, suckers!”
After the high wears off, there’ll be consequences.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:46 pmTobey,
You’re such a clueless idiot.
Comment by Mihariass— August 22, 2007 @ 3:43 pm.
Really? How so?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:46 pmIn which it reveals its true colors … start with the Limbaughian, oxy-induced insult and work backward towards a “policy position.”
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:46 pmYou’re such a clueless idiot.
Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
Pure projection.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:47 pmIf bush and the strong powerful rightwing facist sect of the republican party, and the troll stooges are so concerned about axis of evil members getting MWD why didn’t you scumbag cowards stop n korea? you let kim jong il build 6 nukes, and now you want to attack another country that doesn’t have WMD instead.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:47 pm#124: There’s plenty of young people here willing to go out and take the war on the terrorists. I don’t know where you get your idea that we’re running out of volunteers. And there’s always the draft. We will not lose this war like you dems lost Vietnam.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:48 pmEnlist, you liberal geeks. I bet none of you have what it takes to be a US Marine!
Comment by You filthy liberals — August 22, 2007 @ 3:45 pm
You’re pushing for war — you enlist.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:48 pmThat’s great, Jonathan, but don’t count our military in on your adventure. Israel is not the 51st state.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:48 pmComment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
This one wants us to believe that a real philosopher could support Gurge W. Bum. What a misleading and crazy website you run.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:48 pm#116: LOL! That’s what you’d like to believe.
Comment by You filthy liberals — August 22, 2007 @ 3:42 pm
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:49 pmReally do you know part of No child left behind requires schools give contact information on every student to recruiters.
#132: I will when I’m old enough.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:50 pmshouldn’t we be attacking ourselves since we are supplying explosives to the insurgents?
Comment by raynman — August 22, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
We probably are. Who knows what Blackwater’s people are doing? Maybe building IEDs to make sure the war keeps going until Iraq signs those oil agreements.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:50 pmLet’s do it we all know how good W is at wars.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:51 pmThis one wants us to believe that a real philosopher could support Gurge W. Bum. What a misleading and crazy website you run.
Comment by Anti-Treason — August 22, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
oh there is he’s called machiavelli
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:51 pmThere’s plenty of young people here willing to go out and take the war on the terrorists. I don’t know where you get your idea that we’re running out of volunteers. And there’s always the draft. We will not lose this war like you dems lost Vietnam.
Comment by You filthy liberals — August 22, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
You first:
http://www.goarmy.com
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:51 pmhttp://www.marines.com
http://www.navy.com
http://www.airforce.com
Comment by gummitch — August 22, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
They libtards are the ones that always trust Maliki and he is the puppet of Mucktard al-Sadist.
Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
You’re such a stupid assh0le you don’t even know that Maliki is the Iraqi Prime Minister and has constantly been supported by the (very much not liberal) White House, do you?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:52 pm132: I will when I’m old enough.
Comment by You filthy liberals — August 22, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:52 pmanother brain washed kid spitting back the same ideas his parents have. Way to become your own person kid.
I will when I’m old enough.
Comment by You filthy liberals — August 22, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
How old are you?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:52 pm#135: No. I didn’t mean that. It’s a good thing that the recruiters are active. What I meant was that there’s no shortage of volunteers or that the recruiters are missing their “quotas” (there’s no such thing anyway).
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:52 pm“4/ The worlds media could not accept another preemptive strike based on a LIE
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 22, 2007″
What lie?
Comment by michael — August 22, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
What truth?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:53 pm#140: As I said, I will sign up with the Corps the day I’m old enough.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:53 pm#132: I will when I’m old enough.
Comment by You filthy liberals — August 22, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
There’s a new twist. The chickenhawks are always either too old or, cough cough, infirm. This one claims to be too young.
Another coward.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:54 pmAnd there’s always the draft. We will not lose this war like you dems lost Vietnam.
Comment by You filthy liberals
Yeah!
If Bush hadn’t been AWOL, we would’ve WON in Vietnam!!
Right On!!
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:54 pmAnd there’s always the draft. We will not lose this war like you dems lost Vietnam.
Comment by You filthy liberals
Yeah!
If Bush hadn’t been AWOL, we would’ve WON in Vietnam!
LOL!
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:57 pmAs I said, I will sign up with the Corps the day I’m old enough.
Comment by I’m filthy, liberals — August 22, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:57 pm132: I will when I’m old enough.
Comment by You filthy liberals — August 22, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
So you get all big eyed thinking war is glorious take a look at this and tell me how honorable this war is. Maybe when you become a parent and have your own kids you’ll understand. I have a brother who is 16 and would be draft eligible and I would not want him in this war he actually stood up to kids at his school bullying a Iraqi student.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.boy/index.html
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:58 pmAnother coward.
Comment by gummitch — August 22, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
I betcha $1 that when “you filthy liberals” turns 18, he develops asthma or a boil on his ass.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:58 pmyou know what, with the sporadic filtering of my posts, as well as the cutting of my content, I’m going to have to say
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:59 pmFU, TP!
FU!
I’m serious- I’d like to know what some of the conservative people here think will happen after the US strikes Iran.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:59 pmAnnexing Khuzestan; battle-plans for Iran
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11743.htm
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:59 pmThe sooner Iran is annihilated THE BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
Now tell us how you worry about what would happen to the people of Iraq if we pulled out now. Your compassion is inspiring.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:00 pmI appears “you filthy cowards” has cut & run.
That little prick can’t even own up to being 12, what good will he be in the trenches?
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:00 pmI’m serious- I’d like to know what some of the conservative people here think will happen after the US strikes Iran.
Comment by David Carlisle — August 22, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
hmm world war III but that’s just a guess ****note not conservative
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:01 pmThe sooner Iran is annihilated THE BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
Coward.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:01 pmIt is easy to fight for ones principles it is harder to live up to them.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:02 pmThis guy is a diplomat?
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:02 pmAs I said, I will sign up with the Corps the day I’m old enough.
Comment by You filthy liberals
hahahaha. Yeah, whatever.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:03 pmI’m serious- I’d like to know what some of the conservative people here think will happen after the US strikes Iran.
Comment by David Carlisle — August 22, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
You assume that conservatives plan for the future. Most likely they haven’t given it a moment’s thought.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:05 pmI thought that after the U.S. struck Iran they’d be greeted as liberators. Maybe that’s applicable this time.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:06 pmtest
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:06 pmPS THE OIL BOURSE STARTED LAST MONTH
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Oil_Bourse
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:06 pmRoger__Roger should be committed to a mental institution. His remarks show a truly insane view of the reality. Roger can not understand that Bush has destroyed the illusion of the United States as the only remaining super power with such awsome military strength that is indeed invulnerable.
Roger__Roger seems to believe that the United States has sufficient military strength to attack Iran and bring it to its knees. First, the Iranians have had sufficient time to build hardened facitlities that will resist current bunker busting weaponry. Second, Iran will react by feeding the fires of terrorism far more than they have now. We can expect a very active war against US troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. Third, such an attack would strengthen the hold of the extremists by uniting a pro-west population base behind the current leadership. Fourth, the United States military sword has been blunted because of the quagmire in Irag.
Roger: WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE TROOPS AND WEAPONS TO WAGE A MAJOR WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST? WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH NOW AND IT WOULD TAKE SEVERAL YEARS TO INCREASE THE FORCE LEVEL TO SUFFICIENT SIZE.
I do not hear these idiots advocating for the kind of military expansion to back up their words. I do not see these cowards flooding into the millitary to provide the manpower. I do not see these fools calling for a draft to fill the ranks. I do not see these weaklings advocating for major tax increases to fund and support the effort.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:06 pmBush has no intention of occupying Iran. Rather, the goal is to destroy major weapons-sites, destabilize the regime, and occupy a sliver of land on the Iraqi border that contains 90% of Iran’s oil wealth. For now, the administration must prevent the incipient Iran bourse (oil-exchange) from opening in March and precipitating a global sell-off of the debt-ridden dollar.
PS THE OIL BOURSE STARTED LAST MONTH
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Oil_Bourse
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:07 pmThe Bee People must be annihilated!
FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER BLESS THE U.S.A.!
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:08 pmYou’re such a clueless idiot.
Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
Well is anybody should know about clueless idiots it’s you Mackeral breath.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:08 pmIranian Oil Bourse – started
March 2007 Tehran based PRESS TV reported that the Iranian Embassy in Baghdad announced a shift of its major currency from dollars to euros. Iraqis traveling to Iran will pay for a visa in euros in line with other Iran Embassy locations.
March 2007 The Scotsman reported that China’s state-run Zhuhai Zhenrong Corp, the biggest buyer of Iranian crude worldwide, began paying for its oil in euros late last year.
July 2007 Iran asked Japan to pay for its oil purchases in Japanese Yen.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:10 pmThere’s plenty of young people here willing to go out and take the war on the terrorists. I don’t know where you get your idea that we’re running out of volunteers. And there’s always the draft. We will not lose this war like you dems lost Vietnam.
Comment by You filthy liberals — August 22, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
But YOU’RE not one of them are you, Keyboard Kommando.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:11 pmYou filthy liberals – you are an ignorant fool, you think war is like a video game. You think you can be a Marine? I think not, the Marines only take the best of the best, you are not even close.
My father was a Marine (worked thru the ranks to Col.), my uncles Army (General), and Navy (Commander), I was airforce (Vietnam).
Idiots like you are really not wanted by the Marines, you are simply not smart enough, you couldn’t think your way out of a paper bag.
You will make some fine cannon fodder for the Army though.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:12 pmOH Yeah Israeli agent Bolton? Then get over there and fight you queer old chickenhawk girl.Bwahahahahahaaaa
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:13 pmHoly crap. Literally.
In its call for a unilateral military attack on Iran and the expansion of Israeli territory, CUFI has found unwavering encouragement from traditional pro-Israel groups like AIPAC and elements of the Israeli government.
But CUFI has an ulterior agenda: its support for Israel derives from the belief of Hagee and his flock that Jesus will return to Jerusalem after the battle of Armageddon and cleanse the earth of evil. In the end, all the non-believers – Jews, Muslims, Hindus, mainline Christians, etc. – must convert or suffer the torture of eternal damnation. Over a dozen CUFI members eagerly revealed to me their excitement at the prospect of Armageddon occurring tomorrow. Among the rapture ready was Republican Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. None of this seemed to matter to Lieberman, who delivered a long sermon hailing Hagee as nothing less than a modern-day Moses. Lieberman went on to describe Hagee’s flock as “even greater than the multitude Moses commanded.”
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:14 pmAs I said, I will sign up with the Corps the day I’m old enough.
Comment by You filthy liberals — August 22, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
What’s the matter CT, you give up on the fake “I’m almost deaf, see” excuse.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:14 pmIf we have any evidence that they have helped or have personally attacked US troops in Iraq, we need to bomb the crap out of them at a minimum. Full scale invasion would have to follow if they were still content on attacking us in Iraq and building nuke bombs.
Comment by Roger_Roger — August 22, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
We deserve whatever the Middle East throws at us to get us out of there. An attack on Iran will turn the whole world against us, and we will lose, as we have lost in Iraq and Afghanistan. We are led by losers, and losers support the losers. Bolton is a coward and a bully, and a danger to all of us, and should be taken down.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:15 pmNice try.
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Comment by Makarios — August 22, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
You’re such an ignorant ass, always wrong, never right, never have links or proof because all you have is lies and fantasies. No wonder you never served and never will, you ignorant coward.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:17 pmFor now, the administration must prevent the incipient Iran bourse (oil-exchange) from opening in March and precipitating a global sell-off of the debt-ridden dollar.
PS THE OIL BOURSE STARTED LAST MONTH
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Oil_Bourse
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 22, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
What ARE you insinuating, Tobey? Are you suggisting that the United States would go to war with Iran simply to keep the dollar from being weakened by losing its status as the sole currency for oil transactions? The United States would never do such a thing!
Yes, we might encourage Israel to launch preventative attacks on Jordan, Syria, and Egypt, wait for the ensuing oil embargo to drive the price of oil up to unprecedented levels, then bribe the Saudis with a massive economic development package into trading all their oil in dollars thus switching the dollar from a gold standard to an oil standard. That we might do.
But we would never bomb the crap out of a country based on trumped-up WMD allegations!
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:17 pmIf only some high-profile journalist would ask Bush why he’s trying to provoke the terrorists to attack the U.S. again.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:18 pmAs I said, I will sign up with the Corps the day I’m old enough.
Comment by You filthy liberals — August 22, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
No you won’t, you’re an ignorant, lying, treasonous coward. You’ll never sign up, and if a draft is started, you’ll run away.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:18 pmAs Conservatives peel off slowly from the pro-Middle-east War agenda what you are left with is Israel First Neocons, otherwise known as supreme traitors to the American people. Now we should return to Sept.** and the Israeli involvement which kicked off this whole sham of ‘war on terra’.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:23 pmBolthead is seriously on drugs.
No way to win that one (without nukes), and think of the love from the world we’ll get.
Oh, wait we don’t care about anyone else’s opinions anyway.
sad, lame and stupid!!!
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:29 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/bolton-we-have-no-interest-in-iraqs-well-being/
Look at this Video of Bolton being ripped to pieces by British TV here on think progress
Bolton is a swear word on this side of the pond
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:31 pmOh and look at Jake the first post – ring any bells
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:33 pmYou’ll note that John Bolton’s daughter is not serving in the U.S. military, but has the other priority of going to college.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:35 pmI say we airdrop Bolton and the rest of the neocon crowd into Iran first.
Without parachutes.
Then we forget the whole thing.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:46 pm…fine – let that pussy/coward lead the charge then, with bill kristol, tucker carlson, and a whole brigade of righty/fundy/chickenhawk c*cksuckers right behind them
worthless idiot
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:51 pmWell? If the country can’t trust George Bush, who can it trust?
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:56 pm“Why do GDumbya, Darth Cheney, John (â€Got Milk?â€) Bolton and Little Billy Kristol have a death wish?”
They are actually Iranian agents like Chalabi.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:59 pmHow in God’s Name do these insane people get on the news? Oops, I forgot, there is no God.
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:02 pmDiscredited on Iraq, they’ve been given a fresh start for a do-over on Iran. Congress, Bolton, and the contractors have their playbook ready. “This won’t be another
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:10 pmVietnamIraq. . .”These batshit crazy people will not be content until we are involved in a full blown, nation-state, religious, world war!
This man needs to have a visit from the men in the white coats. Someone take him away for all our sakes.
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:15 pmJohn Bolton is 31 flavors of crazy.
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:16 pmI am thankful reader of ThinkProgress. Thankful that I can find the truth. But I am disappointed when I see tactics used that I would expect from the other side being used on this site:
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:19 pmI have listened to the Bolten tape a few times, and nowhere does he say that he absolutely hopes that we will bomb Iran as the headline suggests. He does use the word absolutely, but it is not attached to hoping we bomb Iran.
Ok…I see the quotations around ‘absolutely’, but this is a cheap ploy that would be expected on Drudge or some other right-wing blog.
ThinkProgress is supposed to be operating at a higher level. Quit fear mongering. The truth of the Bush administration is bad enough and speaks for itself without resorting to these tactics. Do you want the right-wing to be able to point to ThinkProgress and claim that it exaggerates the truth?
Stop being dishonest!
Yes!!! Attack Iran! Send in the troops….
…after, of course, all the Bush twins, neocon trolls, college republicans and sons of Bush supporters have joined the Army.
Which means it will never happen because they are gutless cowards who hide behind deferments when their country needs them.
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:21 pminteresting that the Batiste piece followed this one.
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:23 pmhow appropriate!
Why does anyone want to unify the Iranian people? That’s just what will happen if we’re Insane enough to attack! Aren’t things bad enough now? Isn’t spending 12 billion dollars a month fighting an insurgency while arming the insurgents insane enough? One war of choice and intermittable quagmire isn’t enought? American respect among the civilized world, our stature as a world leader hasn’t sunk low enough? What Bizzarro world do Bolton and the neocons live in? Obviously there aren’t enough people in the world mad at us, so we’ve got to do better. This Administration can’t hit bottom, ’cause they just won’t stop making the hole bigger.
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:30 pmImpeach Bush, Cheney and Gonzales and Save the Constitution.
What amazes me is that no one on this thread realizes the fact that Putin has planned to have Russian strategic air back in service on September 1st. What this means is that Russian cruise missiles will be within fast striking distance of strategic bases and (undefended) US communications hubs. It could also mean that we will enter a situation reminiscent of the Cuban Missile Crisis should a direct threat to Iran arise. My fear is that Bush is more unbalanced then Khruschev and would not blink.
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:35 pmWill Bolton personally lead the troops in attacking Iran? If not, then he needs to shut his fascist yapper.
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:36 pmStop being dishonest!
Comment by Anon — August 22, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
Dishonest about what?
What question was Bolton replying to when he said “Absolutely!”, then?
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:51 pm-Buck fush
So you are admitting that YOU lost Vietnam?
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmDidn’t Bolton’s evil filthy criminal true persona shine through during the battle of the ‘00 election? I will never forget that piece of work banging on the election doors with the other thugs.
August 22nd, 2007 at 6:16 pmIt strikes me as very weird that pig-sh|ts like this guy ‘hope’ the US will attack Iran.
August 22nd, 2007 at 6:26 pmJust why do you hope so johnny ?
Do you really expect anyone with a single brain cell to believe that you and your warmongering friends want to do what is best for our country ?
As if your foreign policy has anything to do with what is best ?
Fu[kin’ guy is a joke .
Comment by obsolete — August 22, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
In WWII, only 4% of the grunts made it to Col. in the Marines. I think that Buck Fush meant that he was in the Air Force and not the entire Defense Department as commanded by the CIC.
August 22nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmWhat will happen if we drop even one bomb on Iranian territory (lessons from the iran-iraq war)
1. Shiites in iraq will turn on the americans and outright attack american troops; shiites will begin to slaughter sunnis
2. Iran will unify behind the mullahs and you will have not an INSURGENT retaliation but the retaliation of an ENTIRE ARMY. The iranian army is no joke: saddam fell because his people hardly cared about him; the iranians have massive support from there people and a committed and fanatic revolutionary guard – millions of people willing to die.
3. hezbollah WILL attack israel; this means there will be an immidiate wider war between the lebanese hezbollah and sunni salaafis as well as the syrians against israel.
basically, one bomb on iran will cause world war 3, undoubtedly. You will have the russians and the chinese refusing to support the american strike, europe on the brink of chaos with its muslim population rioting.
August 22nd, 2007 at 6:33 pm-Buck fush
So you are admitting that YOU lost Vietnam?
Comment by obsolete
Yeah!
If Bush hadn’t been AWOL, we would’ve WON in Vietnam!!
Right On!!
August 22nd, 2007 at 6:56 pmUgly, ugly bird: “Lefturds ALWAYS believe the thugs and dictators, its their own little illness.”
Ugly, ugly bird needs a history lesson.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:00 pmBolton: I am the walrus, goo goo gajoob.
- Tom
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:05 pmNo wonder they threw Bolton out of the U.N.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:12 pmThese people seem to miss the fact that a conspiracy to commit assault and battery is a crime in every state plus the District of Columbia.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:28 pmCome on you people, what is so wrong about Iran getting nukes? They are no less or more rational than any of the other powers that have them.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:37 pmAnd what gives the US the g*&%damn right to decide who does or does not get them? For those with short memories, this is the only country that has used them before, and more damning, they are the only one who is threatening to use them now. And there is not a millimeter of difference between the Dems and the Pukes on this point. How sad, terribly sad, that people are so narrow-minded in this supposedly great country.
At this point, the feckless turd Bush should do exactly the opposite of what neo-con douchebags like Bolton say he should.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:41 pmIf they did not want Iran to get nuclear weapons, why did they FAIL TO GUARD any of the high-precision machine tools in Iraq?
• Why did they fail to guard the hundreds of tons of HMX dual-use high explosive at Al-Qaqaa and elsewhere — after being warned repeatedly?
If arming our enemies is the result of such negligent policies, that’s TREASON.
Good to see that arch-criminal John Bolton wants to cover up his gang’s multiple acts of treason in order to commit more warcrimes.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:41 pm“Come on you people, what is so wrong about Iran getting nukes? They are no less or more rational than any of the other powers that have them.” –NewCenturyProf
You apparently aren’t paying any attention, if you think that the mullahs are just as rational as say France or the US.
And justifying the collapse of our rational foreign policy BY CITING the collapse of our rational foreign policy is absurd. Yes, Bushco has broken the law, and laid us open to foreign attack. Your point was?
• Bringing up the use of nuclear weapons at the end of the most violent war in history is not a valid point. More to the point is the near-destruction of the world in 1963, and again in 1983, by the superpowers (and other events not known to the public).
REDUCING the number of nukes is in everyone’s interest. Not having their existence spread to other nations is in everyone’s interest. Disarming Israel and the rest of the Middle East remains a logical and correct foreign policy purpose.
Pretending that we’ll be better off if everyone has nukes is the pretense of an idiot.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:46 pmmmm – is this the same iran that offered to help train afghan troops under u.s. supervision when bush went after the taliban? – the same iran that offered financial help to katrina victims? – the same iran who offered to halt its uranian enrichment programmes if other western countries did the same….yep,the same iran that bush has repeatedly told to go f**k themselves
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:51 pmmmm – is this the same iran that offered to help train afghan troops under united states’ military supervision when bush went after the taliban? – the same iran that offered financial help to katrina victims? – the same iran who offered to halt its uranian enrichment programmes if other western countries did the same….yep,the same iran that bush has repeatedly told to go f**k themselves
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:53 pmHow much blood is enough to bathe in for these people?
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:59 pmBecause of the current situation,
if USA takes on Iran, USA will be
be the bad guys and not the good
guys.
The world, Western Europe included,
is out of good will towards USA.
An attack on Iran at this point in time,
will be looked upon as an act of war,
where USA are the wrongdoers.
For this the UN security council should
exist, assuring fairness for all, and all
members should fight to hold off the
wrongdoer.
USA have two important focus points
to concentrate on now and they are:
* domestic economy
without using military policy as a mean.
thats cheating. use fiscal or monetary.
* foreign policy
clean up your mess.
USA will not be given a free pass the next
time. Unless USA cleans up good, and stop
thinking they are more than others when
they are not, and moves out and change
strategy, they’ll keep accellerating on a
blind road.
Unless USA plan to take on the entire world.
Else, USA have truly become the Nazis they
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:03 pmappearently where fighting last century,
and the Nazis won, and are now in power,
stronger than ever.
Fox News has hit a new low by bringing this incompitent idiot on TV. As if Bolton was correct about Iraq. Only fools would watch Fox News.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:03 pmIt’s about time we get some pay back. The Mullahs of Iran have been conducting war against the U.S. since 1978. Let’s get some.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:01 pm“If we have any evidence that they have helped or have personally attacked US troops in Iraq, we need to bomb the crap out of them at a minimum. Full scale invasion would have to follow if they were still content on attacking us in Iraq and building nuke bombs.
Comment by Roger_Roger”
So according Roger_Roger a Soviet attack on the United States would have been justified when we were supplying and training Afghan mujihadeen and their Arab comrades to attack and kill Soviet troops in Afghanistan in the 80s.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:19 pmWorld dominance PNAC Bolton wanted Iran to kick out Arms Inspectors, he tells AIPAC (audio track as well as text)
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:23 pmhttp://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_jim_harr_070302_bolton_wanted_iran_t.htm
“…they have not done anything more dramatic, such as withdrawing from the nonproliferation treaty, or throwing out inspectors of the International Atomic Energy Agency, which I actually hoped they would do – that that kind of reaction would produce a counter-reaction that actually would be more beneficial to us.”
Comment 13 above in reference to Iran’s population.
“2x as large as Iraq”
Actually 3 times more populous than Iraq.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:30 pmBy all means Mr. Bolton…..go to Iran and personally attack it.
I would be ecstatic with the consequences to you.
Take a few other neocons with you, Please!
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:53 pmBetter yet, send your kids…and all those of the other neocons.
Send Jenna and fiance for a honeymoon in Iran. What a great vacation idea!!
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:55 pmThis guy is an even greater idiot than I thought previously.
Where will you be, Mr. Bolton, when we send our troops into Iran? Safe at home lounging on your Lazyboy? What a monumental sacrifice!
August 23rd, 2007 at 12:30 amInsanity is insanity. But why do they have to pull us down into their whirlpool is beyond me.
August 23rd, 2007 at 12:52 amwhy haven’t other countries that neighbour or are near to iran,voiced the same concerns? – again it’s the bush propaganda machine in overdrive trying to scare the american people that in order to be safe,we must bomb the sh*t out of iran – don’t hear anything from israel or jordan or the saudis or pakistan or even the iraqis for that matter – and what acts of terrorism have these revolutionary guards recently claimed responsibility for? – and which other groups have confirmed these guards assistance in recent terrorist attacks that they have carried out? – americans,use your common sense and wake up to the fact that again,a year out from an election,your government is trying to keep you in an elevated state of fear
August 23rd, 2007 at 12:58 amExcerpt from the July 15, 2007 edition of Editor and Publisher:
“The Los Angeles Times reports today that according to a senior U.S. military officer and Iraqi lawmakers, about 45% of all foreign militants “targeting U.S. troops and Iraqi civilians and security forces are from Saudi Arabia.” Only 15% are from Syria and Lebanon; and 10% are from North Africa. This is based on official U.S. military figures made available to newspaper by the senior officer.
Nearly half of the 135 foreigners in U.S. detention facilities in Iraq are Saudis, he said.”
Oh, yes, and going back to 9/11 (assuming that the government-promulgated version of events is true), the U. S. government claimed that there were nineteen hijackers, who originated from the following countries (followed the the number from that country in parentheses):
Saudi Arabia (15), United Arab Emirates (2), Egypt (1) and Lebanon (1). So what does the United States do? Invade Afghanistan and then Iraq.
Supposedly, the United States invaded Afghanistan to capture bin Laden? Remember when G. W. Bush was asked about bin Laden’s whereabouts on March 13, 2002? His response, as reported in the April 8, 2002 issue of “The New American” was, “I am truly not that concerned about him.” At the time of the invasion, the Taliban had reduced the opium poppy crop in Afghanistan to almost nothing. Now Afghanistan provides 90% of the world’s supply.
The U. S. invasion and subsequent occupation of Iraq has been “justified” by so many changing and soon debunked rationales that perhaps the only conclusion we can reasonably draw is that we haven’t yet been told the real reason.
Remember Dubai, which was supposed to take over a large number of U. S. ports, and the destination for Halliburton’s move out of the United States? Oh, that’s right, Dubai is located in the United Arab Emirates, the alleged country of origin for two of the hijackers.
In the meantime, Saudi Arabia, which supposedly supplied 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 and 45% of the foreign militants in Iraq receives no mention whatsoever as a concern.
Again, the administration (and its disciples) are telling us a story that is as unbelievable as claiming that the world is flat. Quite tragically, many in our country will take any statements from the White House on blind faith alone.
“When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in an American flag and carrying a cross.” — Sinclair Lewis
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:07 amSeriously isn’t inciting hatred a serious crime in the US?
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:41 amExcerpt from the July 15, 2007 edition of Editor and Publisher:
“The Los Angeles Times reports today that according to a senior U.S. military officer and Iraqi lawmakers, about 45% of all foreign militants ‘targeting U.S. troops and Iraqi civilians and security forces are from Saudi Arabia.’ Only 15% are from Syria and Lebanon; and 10% are from North Africa. This is based on official U.S. military figures made available to newspaper by the senior officer.
Nearly half of the 135 foreigners in U.S. detention facilities in Iraq are Saudis, he said.”
And the reason that the United States is targeting Iran and not Saudi Arabia is?
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:10 amYou filthy liberals
Kid, you are too young to know what war even is. It isn’t a computer game, it isn’t glorious and it isn’t something which makes you more of a man.
When you are old enough, join the army and go see it for yourself. That should knock the macho bullshit out of you at least.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:36 amhey #221,
Focusing attention outwards (i.e. on a new war) helps stop it from being focused inwards (i.e. on the shaky economy, the subprime lending debacle, and other fascinating domestic issues).
August 23rd, 2007 at 3:11 amYou’d have to be completely brainless, or an incredibly dishonest shameless liar, to suggest that Iranian interference in Iraq would decrease after an American pre-emptive strike on that nation.
Both the Iraqi and Afghan governments say Iran is a force for stabilization and good in their country. It is only AIPAC and the military industrial complex, and their associated think tanks, that want a war.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:25 amThese people are completely out of touch with American citizens. They watch way too much 24 and try to keep the people in fear. The worst thing of all is that they still appear to have the Congress by the balls. They’re last “hail Mary” play may very well be to close their eyes and toss a nuke at Iran… and they’ve already shut their eyes.
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:22 amI think all the midde east countries should help Iraq, that would be the neighborly thing to do. They need to drive our ass out of there. We are there based on lies anyway so it is an illegal war. All of our soldiers should stand down and walk out of Iraq and give shrub the finger.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:00 amWhen Bush tells his little pigs to talk they do and this one just did.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:27 amA Neo Con conspirator dares to speak. Oh wait, it’s Pox News, neofascism’s clarion. Nevermind.
http://www.light-to-dark.com/the_third_act.html
Prosecute and lock-em-up or we’ll get a repeat.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:33 amWe need to put fear in Iran. This is all just a ploy to scare them, don’t jump to conclusions.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:33 amWell, Bolton already LOOKS like a deranged zealot, and then after he opens his mouth, he removes all doubt.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:07 amAnother JEWISH WARMONGER has spoken. Too bad all these Jewish Neo-Cons don’t have family, their children in combat boots on the frontline. Instead of bringing death and destruction to the rest of the world, why aren’t they trying to bring ECONOMIC JUSTICE to Americans here at home?
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:14 amDoes the hypocrisy of the United States telling Iran to not meddle in Iraq register on anyone else’s radar?
According to the LA Times (see my earlier post #230), Saudi Arabia is the largest contributor of foreign militants in Iraq (45% of the total). The other countries mentioned in that article are Syria and Lebanon (15%) and North Africa (10%).
Oh,and then there’s the matter of the United States, where the troop numbers are projected to reach 171,000 this fall, which does not take into account somewhere in the neighborhood of 180,000 contractors.
How is it that Iran is meddling and the United States isn’t?
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:16 amThe majority of insurgents in Iraq come from Saudi Arabia.
Why isn’t the government of the USA wanting to bomb them too?
Some of you probably still think Iraq was responsible for 9/11 and that all of the terrorists came from Canada.
Time to start reading people.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:17 amI have a question. I wonder if the american public is aware of the sizes of the ground forces in IRAN? My guess is it doesn’t. See Iran is not IRAQ. The have a very large Military. I’m not talking about the Unit that the US is is “labeling” terrorist. So if these neo-cons want to see more blood of our military. THen go ahead and do it. I don’t think Iran will go after Israel. They will go for our people in Iraq and possibly else where. Captain Kangeroo is another person that lives in an bubble. Then again. I suppose he like other would have the military be a private firm not subject to law. It would be a good start by have 130k of people killed.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:26 amShirley
Antisemitism won’t score you any points here.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:31 amMy God, this guy throws shoes at fellow employees. He needs to be in treatment, not given an international platform to speak. He’s nuts, so of course he thinks he loves war.
Bolton would puke his guts out at the real sights, smells and sounds of war-just like most chickenhawks who cheer for more.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:42 amRON PAUL in 2008! The neo-cons and the mainstream democrats are clearly evil and insane. We need a REAL CONSERVATIVE for President. Small Government is the answer, not national-socialist imperialism.
Jefferson, Madison, Lincoln…RON PAUL!
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:15 am“Perhaps Bush is just boneheaded enough to have adopted that strategy.
Comment by missmolly — August 22, 2007 @ 3:26 pm”
Nope he’s been called out on his Vietnam service, or lack of it, he knows he’s seen as spineless, dry drunk.
August 23rd, 2007 at 3:47 pmHe thinks by ‘acting tough’ he’s being the deciderer.
When the draft comes (not if), are the politicians children going?
Romney or Cheney or Bushs kids?
Dream on.
Jhon bolton is a terrorist
August 23rd, 2007 at 4:43 pmCongress should be paying attention. We do not have the troops. Besides, I believe the Saudis have been contributing more fighters to this god-forsaken war then the Iranians.
Bush, Cheney, Bolton, Kristol and all the rest of the neo-cons are the real terrorists.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:03 pmwhat would the consequences be after attacking Iran
1/ terrorism worse
2/ lots of innocent people dead
3/ military buildups worldwide
4/ The worlds media could not accept another preemptive strike based on a LIE
5/ Anti-Americanism worldwide ( on a massive scale )
6/ A Less safe world
7/ The UN rendered pretty useless at stopping war
IS IT WORTH IT – - quite simply NO
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 22, 2007 @ 2:55 pm
ANTI-AMERICANISM WORLDWIDE
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:22 pmGET IT RIGHT – IT’S ALREADY ON A MASSIVE SCALE. I LIVE IN NEW ZEALAND AND YOU SURE AREN’T WELCOME DOWN HERE. YOUR ONLY FRIENDS LEFT LIVE IN ALBANIA
You mean the Iranians would fight back? All the more reason to attack them. The only excuse we have left to be in Iraq is because the Iraqis are fighting back. If it’s good enough for Iraq it’s got to be good enough for Iran.
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:08 pmYOUR ONLY FRIENDS LEFT LIVE IN ALBANIA
Comment by John
No, actually in Binghamtonia (about 100 miles from Albania, NY, the capital).
Otherwise I agree.
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:21 pmIf we bomb or invade Iran, you can bet China will cash in their IOUs and the United States will be in a depression wihin two weeks.
Even if that were not so, Iran is not Iraq in any way shape or form. Our military IS broken and we would get our asses kicked. Iran has the very best anti-ship missils availabe and in great numbers. So long to the carrier fleet. For our bombers to hit them, it’s a thousand mile run across heavily defended territory. We’d drop some smart bombs and use some cruise missils but whatever, we would end up on the short end of the stick; and for what purpose? Cheney is insane and cares for Cheney. Bush is a cnfirmed idiot and will do exactly waht Cheney orders.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:12 pmIran and Iranians are not the enemy, but Mullahs are. In fact, Mullahs are Iranians’ enemies too if not the worst!
Best is to support Iranian dissidents such as labor, student, woman movements.
What kind of support you might ask?
Well, Voice of America types of media are very effective in providing TRUE news about different part of Iran to the Iranians living in Iran. Unfortunately, VOA has been not doing what it can for lack of appropriate and qualified staff!!
Student movement in Iran is very strong and they can do a lot with little money, spreading leaflets and organizing a VELEVT REVOLUTION.
Student Movement of Iran is so organized that they have even pick BLUE as their revolution color.
Google Confederation of Iranian Students for news and web links.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:03 pmTwo things always strike me about Bolton:
1. His remarkable resemblance to the Inspector Walrus character from Ozamu Tezuka’s manga and anime “Tetsuwan Atom”/Astroboy.
2. His high-pitched effeminate voice which is so at variance with his attempts to portray himself as a rugged macho tough guy.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:04 pm“And then they torched the oil fields” Comment by missmolly.
Sorry, missmolly. The Iraqi’s didn’t set light to those oil fields. Check out the following link. It exposes the whole filthy lie. In a nutshell the Royal Suidi Airforce was grounded for a while so they wouldn’t see the their own fields set alight. This was actually done by the American Stealth Bombers to jack up the price of oil.
http://www.vialls.com/subliminalsuggestion/falklands.html
August 24th, 2007 at 3:46 amIt would be a mistake to attack Iran unilaterally and preemptively just like it was a mistake to attack Iraq.
August 24th, 2007 at 5:01 amCorrection. I gave that link in haste having not read it for several years. The blame still resides with the Americans but the wells were set afire by countless missions flying AV8B Harrier ground-attack jets with wing-mounted napalm pods.
Please check out that link which is still relevent even today.
August 24th, 2007 at 6:11 amSo Iran is interfering in Iraq and the US isn’t….!!!!!!!!!!!
August 24th, 2007 at 7:55 amWhat a sick joke.
Doesn’t the US ever learn form history. They supported Sadam against Iran then killed him and so we have come full cycle. Empire’s don’t last and nor will theirs.
Insanity, thy name is Bolton, Bush etc.
August 24th, 2007 at 8:05 amWaste another 400billion dollars..
August 24th, 2007 at 9:23 amLook at this useless peice of horse-shit – goading the US and its people to war once again on the pretext of Iran’s Nuclear ambitions.
Didn’t this dog with a walrus moustache say the same things about Saddam and Iraq which these same criminals have made a quagmire??
I suggest this petty war-monger be chased out of town.
August 24th, 2007 at 9:38 amJust enlist him and he’ll scare the Muslims into surrender just with his looks
August 24th, 2007 at 10:08 amBolton may be nuts, but he’s not as nuts as the so-called “progressives” on this blog who fool themselves into thinking the democrats will do anything to stop the madness.
It’s been clear for some time now the democrats are just fascists with softer edges than the republicans.
I read some posts above claiming the world’s media wouldn’t allow another invasion based on lies, but this is the same media that gave us 911…and still claims that heinous wag-the-dog scenario actually happened. The vast majority of the world believes that light-weight aluminum wing-tips can slice through steel and concrete like butter if you go fast enough. Clear evidence the majority has abandoned their abilities of critical thought.
A definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
When the world believes cartoon-images of jets can destroy steel and concrete skyscrapers, they’re capable of believing anything…and are obviously insane.
The government/media/military-industrial complex knows the world believes in fairy tales…they know they’ll get away with another war.
“I get all my papers and smile at the sky, ’cause I know that the hypnotized never lie! – Do ya?” – Townsend
We WILL get fooled again…it’s easier than thinking.
August 24th, 2007 at 10:23 amWhat would the consequences be after attacking Iran?
August 24th, 2007 at 10:32 amNot immediately perhaps, but eventually, New York City, Boston, Washington D.C., extra large portions of the Atlantic Seaboard will become uninhabital for the next half million years due to radiation from Russian, Chinese and Iranian nuclear ICBMs.
We are playing in a big-boys playground and the neo-con wing nuts simply do not understand it.
Bolton and his ilk think like Custer; the only exception being the weapons.
We don’t live in the age of the thirties and forties when war was,for the most part, mano y mano fighting. In todays war, all out war, means the destruction of entire countries for many thousands of years.
John Bolton is a repulsive nutcase. He and his ilk are what invoke hatred of the USA and create “terrorists”. Unfortunately for us, Bush has a talent for appointing fellow asylum escapees.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:06 pmLefturds ALWAYS believe the thugs and dictators, its their own little illness.
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird — August 22, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
Heh. I can disprove *that* utterly ridiculous little theory of yours about how we “ALWAYS believe the thugs and dictators” with just 2 little words:
GEORGE BUSH
August 24th, 2007 at 4:44 pmWingtards ALWAYS believe the thugs and dictators, that’s why they keep putting them in office.
August 25th, 2007 at 12:15 amI “absolutely” hope Mr. Bolton’s children will be standing their posts in the front lines of this conflict, but I won’t be holding my breath…
August 25th, 2007 at 12:17 amIn short, I think attacking Iran is a bad idea simply because doing so has so much potential to snowball out of control.
If we just bomb Iran’s nuke reactor and/or Revolutionary Guard, what makes you think they won’t just openly support Iraqi insurgents? Obviously, they wouldn’t be able to surreptitiously support the insurgents if they didn’t already have continuous cross-border access. Just imagine how much harder to handle it’ll be if they try openly and in earnest. We don’t have enough troops to stop them now or even to quell the insurgency. Those extra soldiers we’d need will have to come from somewhere….and that somewhere is the seat you’re in right now. Then we’d definitely have to start a draft to try to secure Iraq. If we’d done that in the beginning, none of us would be having this debate.
We’ll just entrench ourselves even deeper in Middle East conflicts if we don’t. While I’d agree that “cutting and running” won’t make America safer, I think expanding the conflict will do no better. I don’t condone war, but we should just start a draft now and overwhelm the insurgents. Make it so that we have more Americans in Iraq than iraqis and we could end this ASAP.
Attacking Iran is likely to snowball out of control. Two countries are more than enough. We don’t need a third. Besides, with Russia and China’s attitudes as they are, who’s to say they won’t outmaneuver us while we’ve got our pants down freaking the Middle East?
August 25th, 2007 at 10:29 amBe careful what you wish for, you might just get it. Of course, Bolton is a
August 25th, 2007 at 11:50 ammember of the Bunker Society, so he feels himself safe from any
consequences that might arise from his poison rhetoric. A fully appointed
and well stocked hole in the ground suits him.
Yeah…and just like Hezbollah made south Lebanon into a “graveyard” for the Israeli murderer thieves, so will Iran make Iraq and Iran…a graveyard for these idiots.
Bolton is a creep. Just a very creepy Mark Twain genetic mishap.
August 25th, 2007 at 9:40 pmI just hope the thought of Bolton attacking iran is just a thought. The verbage is not catching on like the the Bush regimes anti rhetorical nonsense about Iraq. As we speak more loyalists are dropping from the payroll.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:22 amWith that in mind the voice of the regime is softer and Cheney has not yet released
himself from his shell to make a dimonstrative statement.
Those Americans holding on to democracy might hope to get to the elections of 2008 before anything stupid happens.
While I agree war is a terrible thing and I do not want any of our soldiers hurt or killed, the thought process of these fanatic Muslims has to be stoped. I quote from Osama himself. Muslims love death, America loves life, that is the difference between us. That was from an interview with him before 9/11. All these Muslims should be eracticated.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:11 amCan’t anyone see that Bolton’s game plan is the same one that pathetic drunk, Moynihan, employed: make a bunch of speeches defending Israel’s interests, kiss the requisite butts in New Yawk, and parlay all the dishonesty and American and innocent blood into a Senate seat.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:50 pmIf we don’t attack or disable Iran’s nuclear facilities what do you think they will do with the bomb??? Better to deal with them now than when they are stronger. Just like 1938 all over again. With another Hitler at the helm. In the end, we will end up saving MORE innocent lives. Think about it.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:44 pmWalk around carrying a loaded gun and you will eventually shoot yourself in the foot.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:42 amleft, right is non operative . . . the criminal Bush family and their toadies is what this is about. If you buy the liberal/conservative distraction you miss the real story . . . how a group of international thieves stole the national treasury and destroyed the what was left of the Constitution and reduced Americans of ALL persuasions to third world serfs bowing to a New World Order.
August 28th, 2007 at 2:57 pmThe idiot “leaders” either did not learn or have forgotten how history repeats itself. The soviets invaded Afganistan for god knows what reasons back in the 80’s. They learned the same lessons as the British Empire and finally left. Of course the US gave arms to the Afgans to help achieve that goal. Did we hear the soviets whining about the CIA and their arms shipments that were killing Soviet soldiers. Ah, but they were the bad guys and we were the good. Now those bad Iranians are helping the Iraqi freedom fighters to kill those good American boys who are helping to bring democracy to Iraq. What goes around comes around and now is the time for the neocons in Washington to suck it up and take their lumps. Oops, sorry, the the poor military grunts who are paying for this with their lives and limbs. If American goes after Iran they will discover themselves in an even worse quagmire that will bleed their taxpaying citizenry to the bone.
August 28th, 2007 at 9:24 pmfirst of all, you fool’s who think the United States Military can’t level all iran’s Military installation’s and destroy any advancing forces are foolish and naive. Iran’s military would be destroyed, there goverment fall, the youth of Iran will rise up and demand Democracy. and the response about Russia and China intervention, could be rough but no way, China needs the Usa and the Usa needs China there economically weaved together for Decades, Russia i don’t think will do anything they both will be given there energy opportunites, Let the people of Iran decide when they experience Liberties. a strong force! There will be no doubt a Military build up and Defensive posture by China and Russia (politics). World war the United States allies would come to aid. It would never come to that Usa is not going to invade Iran it won’t be needed.
August 30th, 2007 at 8:20 pmI thank God for every level-headed comment I’m reading here. My husband is Iranian, and I fear for his family. Before meeting, I had no exposure whatsoever to the Persian culture, to politics specifically, but I knew I was full of doubts and anxiety re Bush’s warmongering in the Middle East. Yes!! Turn an open eye to Saudi Arabia! How many of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi?? How many were Persian? Just as the Iranian youth are beginning to find their voice and express discontent with their own government, here come’s Dubya to BOMB them back 20 years!! God help us all if this is truly his bloody plan.
September 4th, 2007 at 7:53 pmComment by Jim — August 30, 2007 @ 8:20 pm:
“first of all, you fool’s who think the United States Military can’t level all iran’s Military installation’s and destroy any advancing forces are foolish and naive. Iran’s military would be destroyed, there goverment fall, the youth of Iran will rise up and demand Democracy.”
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Very funny….
What makes you so sure the youth will rise up when you drop bombs on their heads? The Neo-Con goons and yourself are so naive and downright stupid: you underestimate Persian nationalism; many Persians hate the government, but they love their country more than they hate the Mullahs, and they will certainly defend it if attacked. Let’s see 160,000 troops versus, say, 30-50 million. I think it’s a no-brainer that Iran will win.
September 4th, 2007 at 10:05 pmYou people kill me! What happened over the generations of people having patriotism for our country? Stayed out of the World War, got attacked at Pearl Harbor and over 3,000 soldiers and sailors died. We nuked Japan twice. Entered the war and hundreds of thousands of Americans died to end a theology of Nazism. Women worked in the factories while the men fought in battle away from home and the nation pulled together as a whole. We destroyed that theology. Let over 3,000 civilians die in a burning building in NY, and we pull together to fly our flag for 6 months, only to start talking ignorance about an illegal war. Theologies have been around and pressed upon nations for centuries; Napolean, Mussalini, etc. Now Islamic Extremism! Wake up people please! Why do people hate war? Because people die! This prevents wars and discourages theologies and oppression! The only thing I disagree with right now is worrying about collateral damage. You cannot fight a war and worry about collateral damage. You must use full force with might that will gain victory quickly! This instills fear as many people die, and ends war. Please remember ya’ll, that we were peacefully minding our business when we were attacked! We didn’t ask to be, they brought us war! What do you give them in return? I didn’t write this to be rude or unjust! But it is the truth to things that are happening that are bigger than us just going on with our daily lives! Please remember also, that there are things that go on in the world that we will never have the knowledge of knowing for our own protection as people would panic if they knew! Please always give your gratitude when you see a soldier, Marine, or Sailor for we love our country to the core! Just wished that everyone felt the same! God Bless!
September 5th, 2007 at 2:28 amI think everyone should relax, watch Fox news because they always report the facts…..hmm perhaps we should be at war with Saudi Arabia……oh they own 12% of the US, hmm maybe we arn’t paying our bills and that is why all the terrorists where from Saudi Arabia, or perhaps its all about making the Bush’s and there cronies more money so they can buy a few more yachts….. I think we the people need to quiet reading the McDonalds version of the news, get our heads out of the sand, stop acting like lemmings and take care of our own problems at home because one day the house of cards will fall and the people left holding the bags will be us, the rest will be yachting away with a smile.
September 8th, 2007 at 12:44 amDo we even have the means to attack Iran? Enlistment is low from the Iraq war and we’re spread thin throughout the rest of the world as it is. I honestly don’t see how we could do this without setting up a draft.
September 8th, 2007 at 7:21 amthis is just another look at whats coming around the corner. Its the end of the world the way i see it. we all will experience the revolution of the bible. raptures will happen. anti christ will rise. and the fear of a nuclear holocaust, its too late. its IMPOSSIBLE to prevent this. THink of the end of the world as a good thing. because its better we get it over with. honestly.
September 16th, 2007 at 5:15 amThe doctrine of preemptive attacks is out of hand. Iran is messing in Iraq because we labelled them as part of the Axis of Evil. Them messing in Iraq is their preemptive action to protect themselves. Kind of like our excuse for attacking Iraq.
(Truthfully, I can’t think of a better group of guys than the Revolutionaty Guards to get bombed. I would love to bomb them, so would everyone else. But we can’t go around doing that sort of stuff.)
There is a reason why starting wars with countries that aren’t at war against you is bad, because there are lots of ways that this whole thing could get out of hand.
Sinking tankers in the Straits of Hormuz? Bombing oil facilities? Iranian subs hiding under tankers to fire torpedos at aircraft carriers?
This is really scary.
Tekakaromatagi
September 16th, 2007 at 12:22 pmIran should have the bomb and be allowed to launch on israel. Or hand 1 off to Hamas,Islamic Jhad and encourage them to use it.
September 17th, 2007 at 7:18 pmBecause on the day after it will no longer be an issue, there wont be anymore Iran or Syria for that matter. You dont think it will happen?
Better study history it always happens because men are fools and power hungry. Stop those nut jobs in charge of that country before its to late i say.
Jesus wept… and still does… how long oh Lord, how long?
September 17th, 2007 at 7:59 pmI agree with Robert Anderson. God forbid this war – PLEASE! But history does show over and over again that these things can and do happen, only on a grander scale. What we are dealing with is Islamic lunacy! It isn’t a military strategy. It isn’t like a business gaining market share on a product. This is an ideology. This is a movement. The Islamists don’t care 1 cent about anything but their idealogy and will stop at nothing to see it through. How about we do absolutely NOTHING everywhere in the world and see what happens. We’ll see how all these pansy ass, anti-war, Bush-bashers respond when the unthinkable does and WILL happen. Truth is, is it will happen whether we do anything or not. The Islamists will MAKE IT HAPPEN one way or the other. – Mar
September 17th, 2007 at 8:20 pmTo American Soldier and the rest…
This is a true story…There was a country, which I will call Country ‘A’, that was pursuing a path of imperialism not so long ago. They had invaded another country, which I will call Country ‘B’, and was involved in an active military campagin against them. The loss of life was horrendous.
Another country, which I will call Country ‘C’ in this expose, was opposed to these imperialistic policies of Country ‘A’ (I believe that this was RIGHT although right and wrong have no meaning in this expose). Now Country ‘C’ had vast natural resources including the main one, oil, and controlled the availabiltity of these resources on the world market. Country ‘A’ did not have enough natural resources to maintain the military aggression against Country ‘B’. Although the wartime economy of Country ‘A’ was booming, as history would have it, that was not going to continue.
What had happened was that Country ‘C’ said “Enough!!!” and cut off the availabilty of natural resources and oil to Country ‘A’.
Well… Country ‘A’, starved of natural resources, set out to attack Country ‘C’ with a pre-emptive strike that would foreshorten a war that Country ‘A’ knew that it could not win if it was not foreshortened. Then Country ‘A’, with Country ‘C’ bombed out of their way, planned to control the oil fields and continue their path of imperialistic conquest.
This is a true story. Does this story sound familiar? It should, then again, those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.
Do you know the definition of insanity? It is repeating a process and expecting a different result.
Country ‘A’ was Japan.
Country ‘B’ was China-Manchuria
Country ‘C’ was the United States of America
The time was 1941 A.D.
The pre-emptive strike…Pearl Harbor
The oil fields were located in Indochina (Vietnam…Ever wonder why we were there?) and the East Indies.
Really, American Soldier, do you really believe the nonsense that you wrote? The way that you wrote it was that the US was just sitting around, doing NOTHING, and… then… all of the sudden, just out of the blue, for no reason whatsoever, the Imperialistic Empire of Japan had nothing better to do than to send six Aircraft Carriers over to Hawaii to annihilate our Pacific Fleet? For what purpose?
GET REAL!!! That is not the way that it happened. Great nations (like ourselves, yes, we are GREAT!!!) act with REASON…not nonsense.
We know what happened to Japan. I just hope not to write this story this way…
Country ‘A’ is the United States of America
Country ‘B’ is Iraq
Country ‘C’ is Iran
The pre-emptive strike…the Nuke plants in Iran
The oil fields…you know…the Persian Gulf oil fields.
The time…2008
This…uh…would meet the definition of insanity. Although GW is Mentally Ill (He suffers from Alcoholism, an INCURABLE MENTAL ILLNESS, supposedly in remission.) I hope that there is someone in power sane enough to stop him.
Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. He said pray for those that persecute you. He said Love your enemy. I never have read in the scripture where Jesus and the Apostles instructed me to kill ANYONE.
Now I know that God had told the Israelites to smite the Hittites and take the Promised Land through the use of military might. But that was not written for us. That was spoken by Yahweh thousands of years ago to another people in another nation. Christians cannot rightfully use this to justify war. Can we just have a little faith in the Father to see us through and GIVE PEACE A CHANCE?
God bless ALL OF YOU.
Tom
September 17th, 2007 at 9:33 pmMan Tom! That’s deep! Most Americans and those in the Western world, especially those who are anti-war, anti-Bush care nothing what’s going on in the word. Most Western nation citizens care about getting their kids to school, buying that nice house in a decent neighborhood, and cushioning their 401k and investing in stocks. I was that citizen – until 9/11 happened. I thought to myself, what the heck is going on in the world? You could get political all you want. You can talk about oil and imperialism. But when it all comes down to it here’s the real deal: When Sarah and Abraham couldn’t have a child (Sarah was baren), God let Abraham lay with his maidservant and they bore a child. When God finally blessed Sarah with a child she sent the maidservant and her child into exile. God promised that the maidservants child she had with Abraham would rise to become a great nation – ISLAM. And Sarah and Abrahams child – CHRISTIANITY. Islam and Christianity believe in the same God. And for all those who believe in God and the words of te Bible and Koran – It Was Written. Destiny is becoming of us now.
If we could give peace a chance, if we could all just smoke a little ganja weed, if we could all just chill out and reflect on how precious life is – just imagine… But NO. We have nations and their leaders who are materialistic, capitalistic, and greedy. We have nations that are religious extremists, and bent on the rebirth of their “One” world under in which all others are infidels, and we have the rulers of the world who care nothing about the common man just trying to survive and raise a healty family. You think with all that going on we really have a chance at peace? Fact is Fact. And with that said, are you willing to sit back and do nothing and wait for some crazy nut job and his homeboys to let off a ‘dirty bomb’ in your town before you say, ‘Hey, what the heck is going on out there?’ I am a realist. I want nothing more than for there to be peace in the world but I know there won’t be, and ain’t gonna be any time soon no matter how many times I turn my cheek to my ememy. And I don’t think I’m willing to sit back and wait. The US is a great nation. THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH. We’re not perfect, but we damn sure have morals, and values that exceed most any other nation and there is a kinship feeling among all patritotic Americans that we are compassionate people who don’t chop heads off and torture people every day because we hate infidels. And when a people despise us so badly, enough so that they woulc commit an act of cowardness on innocents, that bothers me to the core. If America had to dominate the entire world just so some crazy ass group of people don’t try to decimate my hometown it would all be worth it to this American who loves his freedom and his country – a place where he can raise his family and live a life where he is FREE!
–Mar
September 17th, 2007 at 11:38 pmIran has supplied weapons directly and indirectly to various factions in Iraq knowing full well that these weapons would be used to kill U.S. troops. That alone is reason enough to lay waste to Iran.
September 18th, 2007 at 12:48 pm