Comments on: Fleischer Ignorant Of The Name Of Wounded Iraq Vet Featured In His TV Ad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:50:46 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: j. sharp http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4036039 j. sharp Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:10:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4036039 Supporting our troops? Or does Ari Fleischer's campaign ads simply support the GOP? The man couldn't even remember the name of the vet. If this "new" group was truly interested in supporting the troops, they would "swift boat" this administration over their failure to provide proper medical care, testing and benefits here at home for returning troops. As Americans we should be ashamed that we put up with an administration which refuses to fully support our wounded veterans, refuses to provide adequate testing for DU contamination and brain injury, and even allows the Pentagon to interfere with the diagnosis of these vets. It is a national shame that veterans returning from Iraq have to sue the United States government to get these benefits. It's easy to wave the flag isn't it, as long as we close our eyes to the realities? This is a GOP ad campaign that pushes for extended tours, less time at home between tours at the expense of the strength of our military and at the expense of the mental health of our troops. Will this same group rally around the hundreds of thousands of troops suffering from PTSD who will also have to fight for benefits as well? Unless Ari and friends back it up with actual support for our military and demand this administration to do right by our troops.. it's all just PR.. tacky PR at the expense of our veterans. Like I said, a national shame. Supporting our troops? Or does Ari Fleischer’s campaign ads simply support the GOP? The man couldn’t even remember the name of the vet. If this “new” group was truly interested in supporting the troops, they would “swift boat” this administration over their failure to provide proper medical care, testing and benefits here at home for returning troops. As Americans we should be ashamed that we put up with an administration which refuses to fully support our wounded veterans, refuses to provide adequate testing for DU contamination and brain injury, and even allows the Pentagon to interfere with the diagnosis of these vets. It is a national shame that veterans returning from Iraq have to sue the United States government to get these benefits. It’s easy to wave the flag isn’t it, as long as we close our eyes to the realities?

This is a GOP ad campaign that pushes for extended tours, less time at home between tours at the expense of the strength of our military and at the expense of the mental health of our troops. Will this same group rally around the hundreds of thousands of troops suffering from PTSD who will also have to fight for benefits as well? Unless Ari and friends back it up with actual support for our military and demand this administration to do right by our troops.. it’s all just PR.. tacky PR at the expense of our veterans. Like I said, a national shame.

]]> By: American http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4036019 American Sat, 25 Aug 2007 06:31:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4036019 As long asd people play part politics and dont listen to simple logic we will always just get more of the same old political bullshit. As long asd people play part politics and dont listen to simple logic we will always just get more of the same old political bullshit.

]]> By: American http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4036017 American Sat, 25 Aug 2007 06:29:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4036017 The Democrats want war also, the only hope for America is Ron Paul. He hasnt changed his position in 30 years and was oppsed to the Iraq war from the beginning. The Democrats want war also, the only hope for America is Ron Paul. He hasnt changed his position in 30 years and was oppsed to the Iraq war from the beginning.

]]> By: Kevin Quail http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4035117 Kevin Quail Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:43:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4035117 From Source Watch: All the Freedom's Watch-sponsored ads "encourage viewers to 'Call your Congressman and Senator' and provide a phone number: 1-877-222-8001. "Only that number? It ain't Congress",[41] which, by the way, is (202) 224-3121 for the U.S. Senate, and (202) 225-3121 for the U.S. House of Representatives. "Go on, call it," blogger and radio host Taylor Marsh wrote August 22, 2007. Then, "once you get through something amazing happens. The operator asks you a question. Yes, you're expected to take part in a survey before she puts you through to Congress. But there's a catch. The question asked goes something like this: Do you believe the Iraq war is important to the war on terror? They may have changed the question by now, because we're on to them, but that's what I was asked. If you say no, the operator immediately thanks you but doesn't connect you to Congress. Instead, she asks if you have anything else to say and then basically gets rid of you. They're only allowing people who agree with them through."[42] "I called," chrisj at The Daily Kos wrote, "and the person who answered asked me immediately if I thought that the Iraq war was preventing attacks in America. When I answered 'no' she referred me to their website at www.freedomswatch.org and then hung up on me."[43] See the Americans United for Change YouTube video of a call to Freedom's Watch.[44] See entire story here: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Freedom%27s_Watch From Source Watch:

All the Freedom’s Watch-sponsored ads “encourage viewers to ‘Call your Congressman and Senator’ and provide a phone number: 1-877-222-8001.

“Only that number? It ain’t Congress”,[41] which, by the way, is (202) 224-3121 for the U.S. Senate, and (202) 225-3121 for the U.S. House of Representatives.

“Go on, call it,” blogger and radio host Taylor Marsh wrote August 22, 2007. Then, “once you get through something amazing happens. The operator asks you a question. Yes, you’re expected to take part in a survey before she puts you through to Congress. But there’s a catch. The question asked goes something like this: Do you believe the Iraq war is important to the war on terror? They may have changed the question by now, because we’re on to them, but that’s what I was asked. If you say no, the operator immediately thanks you but doesn’t connect you to Congress. Instead, she asks if you have anything else to say and then basically gets rid of you. They’re only allowing people who agree with them through.”[42]

“I called,” chrisj at The Daily Kos wrote, “and the person who answered asked me immediately if I thought that the Iraq war was preventing attacks in America. When I answered ‘no’ she referred me to their website at http://www.freedomswatch.org and then hung up on me.”[43]

See the Americans United for Change YouTube video of a call to Freedom’s Watch.[44]

See entire story here: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Freedom%27s_Watch

]]> By: Don DeVan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4032579 Don DeVan Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:53:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4032579 A page full of useful idiots. Y'all would make Chaiman Moa proud and Marx is absolutely creamin his jeans. Amazing how so many people can be duped so easily. A page full of useful idiots. Y’all would make Chaiman Moa proud and Marx is absolutely creamin his jeans. Amazing how so many people can be duped so easily.

]]> By: Richter http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4032313 Richter Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:22:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4032313 Does Fleischer's return to the spotlight indicate that he no longer wants to spend more time with his family? Does Fleischer’s return to the spotlight indicate that he no longer wants to spend more time with his family?

]]> By: captain vancouver http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4032284 captain vancouver Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:05:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4032284 $15mil pro war ad campaign. I guess you've got to spend money to make money. $15mil pro war ad campaign. I guess you’ve got to spend money to make money.

]]> By: Jacques Mattheij http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4032247 Jacques Mattheij Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:50:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4032247 It's really quite amazing how long this whole thing is allowed to continue. In any other country by the time the government has approval ratings like what we see in the US today the government would fall. That's called honour and it is quite surprising that in the US the only thing that seems to matter is the calendar. Get in on whatever pretext you can manage, then turn tables on your voters *and* the rest of the population and use them as you see fit. How long wil lthis continue ? It’s really quite amazing how long this whole thing is allowed to continue. In any other country by the time the government has approval ratings like what we see in the US today the government would fall. That’s called honour and it is quite surprising that in the US the only thing that seems to matter is the calendar. Get in on whatever pretext you can manage, then turn tables on your voters *and* the rest of the population and use them as you see fit.

How long wil lthis continue ?

]]> By: Pvt Ryan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4031968 Pvt Ryan Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:52:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4031968 An ad campaign for war shows that there isnt enough boxoffice for a sequel. Time to change studio heads. An ad campaign for war shows that there isnt enough boxoffice for a sequel. Time to change studio heads.

]]> By: Hereindc http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4031898 Hereindc Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:14:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4031898 Comment by LibsloseALLargumentstoconservatives — August 22, 2007 @ 6:40 pm this poster wrote these above: "alleged lack of healthcare to vets" "most vets support Bush" "Mullato Obama" Are there actually people out there that really think like this? Comment by LibsloseALLargumentstoconservatives — August 22, 2007 @ 6:40 pm

this poster wrote these above:

“alleged lack of healthcare to vets”
“most vets support Bush”
“Mullato Obama”

Are there actually people out there that really think like this?

]]> By: Linda http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4031850 Linda Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:00:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4031850 I just watched the ad, and the fact that Ari doesn't know the soldiers name is NOT the most important thing. The important thing is that the Administration is HIDING BEHIND a wounded soldier and using that disabled vet to push the Administration message that Saddam = Osama; Iraq was behind 9/11, and we must fight the terrorists there so we don't have another 9/11. This is like a bunch of scared kindergardners hiding behind the kid with glasses. Use a cripple to push the Administration lies because the public wouldn't dare challenge a cripple. Pitiful. WEAK and pitiful. I just watched the ad, and the fact that Ari doesn’t know the soldiers name is NOT the most important thing.

The important thing is that the Administration is HIDING BEHIND a wounded soldier and using that disabled vet to push the Administration message that Saddam = Osama; Iraq was behind 9/11, and we must fight the terrorists there so we don’t have another 9/11.

This is like a bunch of scared kindergardners hiding behind the kid with glasses. Use a cripple to push the Administration lies because the public wouldn’t dare challenge a cripple.

Pitiful. WEAK and pitiful.

]]> By: salty http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4031824 salty Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:41:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4031824 Hey Ari... who's "they" from the ad (as in "They attacked us...")? Just curious. Cause that's kinda vague. I'm all for fighting the "they" who attacked us on 9/11. But I'm kinda curious what that has to do with Iraq... Hey Ari… who’s “they” from the ad (as in “They attacked us…”)?

Just curious. Cause that’s kinda vague. I’m all for fighting the “they” who attacked us on 9/11. But I’m kinda curious what that has to do with Iraq…

]]> By: Carol Lam http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4031762 Carol Lam Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:09:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4031762 Ari is associated with the extremist Jewish group CHABAD LUBIVITCH and the NOAHIDE LAWS - look it up and see Israel's formal plan to behead Christians. That is why there are guillitines in the concentration camps they have prepared for Americans. Ari is associated with the extremist Jewish group CHABAD LUBIVITCH and the NOAHIDE LAWS – look it up and see Israel’s formal plan to behead Christians. That is why there are guillitines in the concentration camps they have prepared for Americans.

]]> By: Carol Lam http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4031757 Carol Lam Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:05:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4031757 Bet you they are really using OUR money to fund this propaganda push. Who’s the actual company producing it — a known republican-operative video production company? One that might also have government contracts for other ads used in other markets, like Iraq? Just sayin’. And I haven’t checked yet, but is there a relationship between these folks who are “out” and listed as involved in this 501(c)4, and the folks who wrote letters on behalf of Libby? Occurred to me there could be an overlap. <em><strong>I would hope they consider bringing six enlisted men from the 82nd Airborne home from Iraq a few weeks early. These six men can testify to the facts on the ground far better than Betrayus or any of the recipients of the Pentagon’s Dog and Pony tours. </strong> Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we could get the 7 that wrote the NYT article to testify before Congress on the same day as the Betray-us report?</em> <strong> One of the seven has been shot in the head since the editorial was first written but before publication and is supposed to be on his way back to the states already. I hope the other six are very careful. Bullets can come from anywhere these days.</strong> ___ Some how I don’t think it is only, or even principally about “their own.” It is also directed as the HRC, Schumer, Lieberlier crowd in the Democratic party as well. These ads are saying “we have drawn the line in the sand,” you are either with us or you are against us (meaning AIP*C) on this. Bet you they are really using OUR money to fund this propaganda push.

Who’s the actual company producing it — a known republican-operative video production company?

One that might also have government contracts for other ads used in other markets, like Iraq?

Just sayin’.

And I haven’t checked yet, but is there a relationship between these folks who are “out” and listed as involved in this 501(c)4, and the folks who wrote letters on behalf of Libby?

Occurred to me there could be an overlap.

I would hope they consider bringing six enlisted men from the 82nd Airborne home from Iraq a few weeks early. These six men can testify to the facts on the ground far better than Betrayus or any of the recipients of the Pentagon’s Dog and Pony tours.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we could get the 7 that wrote the NYT article to testify before Congress on the same day as the Betray-us report?

One of the seven has been shot in the head since the editorial was first written but before publication and is supposed to be on his way back to the states already.

I hope the other six are very careful. Bullets can come from anywhere these days.

___

Some how I don’t think it is only, or even principally about “their own.” It is also directed as the HRC, Schumer, Lieberlier crowd in the Democratic party as well. These ads are saying “we have drawn the line in the sand,” you are either with us or you are against us (meaning AIP*C) on this.

]]> By: Shirley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4031740 Shirley Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:55:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4031740 TOO BAD NEITHER ARI FLEISCHER NOR ANY OF HIS FAMILY ARE DYING OR BEING MAIMED IN IRAQ. Seems not too many Jews are serving in combat on the front lines, huh? But they are apparently adept at manufacturing PROPAGANDA campaigns in the media back here at home.... How much you wanna bet the soldier Fleischer is using as toilet paper is not a Jew? TOO BAD NEITHER ARI FLEISCHER NOR ANY OF HIS FAMILY ARE DYING OR BEING MAIMED IN IRAQ. Seems not too many Jews are serving in combat on the front lines, huh? But they are apparently adept at manufacturing PROPAGANDA campaigns in the media back here at home….
How much you wanna bet the soldier Fleischer is using as toilet paper is not a Jew?

]]> By: Vice President Bush http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4031728 Vice President Bush Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:43:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4031728 I love how we're supposed to listen to Private John Doe in the ad, but not listen to soldiers like Reickoff and John Solz. SUPPORT THE TROOPS! <strong>ALL</strong> THE TROOPS! I love how we’re supposed to listen to Private John Doe in the ad, but not listen to soldiers like Reickoff and John Solz.

SUPPORT THE TROOPS!
ALL THE TROOPS!

]]> By: citizen of a better democracy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4031671 citizen of a better democracy Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:06:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4031671 <i>Democratic institutions are not necessarily the way ahead in the long-term future</i> So the Yankee military is musing about what form of government they should impose on this supposedly sovereign nation... If there's any justice you will get not one whit of Iraqi oil ever. Democratic institutions are not necessarily the way ahead in the long-term future

So the Yankee military is musing about what form of government they should impose on this supposedly sovereign nation… If there’s any justice you will get not one whit of Iraqi oil ever.

]]> By: Free RePubic Readers have sex with their mothers http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4031627 Free RePubic Readers have sex with their mothers Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:49:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4031627 http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.democracy/ " But for the first time, exasperated front-line U.S. generals talk openly of non-democratic governmental alternatives, and while the two top U.S. officials in Iraq still talk about preserving the country's nascent democratic institutions, they say their ambitions aren't as "lofty" as they once had been. "Democratic institutions are not necessarily the way ahead in the long-term future," said Brig. Gen. John "Mick" Bednarek, part of Task Force Lightning in Diyala province, one of the war's major battlegrounds." http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.democracy/
” But for the first time, exasperated front-line U.S. generals talk openly of non-democratic governmental alternatives, and while the two top U.S. officials in Iraq still talk about preserving the country’s nascent democratic institutions, they say their ambitions aren’t as “lofty” as they once had been. “Democratic institutions are not necessarily the way ahead in the long-term future,” said Brig. Gen. John “Mick” Bednarek, part of Task Force Lightning in Diyala province, one of the war’s major battlegrounds.”

]]> By: frenchfries http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4031610 frenchfries Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:48:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4031610 Wow, Ari looks ooold. Seems being a hack is no healthy lifestyle. Wow, Ari looks ooold. Seems being a hack is no healthy lifestyle.

]]> By: Free RePubic Readers have sex with their mothers http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/comment-page-2/#comment-4031595 Free RePubic Readers have sex with their mothers Thu, 23 Aug 2007 07:09:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/22/fleischer-rieckhoff/#comment-4031595 info on "Freedom Watch" constributors: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1643369 info on “Freedom Watch” constributors:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×1643369

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