DNI McConnell: ‘Americans Are Going To Die’ If We Keep Talking About Wiretapping
DNI McConnell: ‘Americans Are Going To Die’ If We Keep Talking About Wiretapping
Earlier this month, Congress caved to President Bush and passed legislation updating the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, vastly expanding Bush’s powers to wiretap American citizens without court oversight. In an extensive interview with the El Paso Times, National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell decried continued public discussion of the wiretapping program, claiming Americans, particularly in Iraq, would “die” because of the debate.
Q: So you’re saying that the reporting and the debate in Congress means that some Americans are going to die?
McCONNELL: That’s what I mean. Because we have made it so public. We used to do these things very differently
Despite forewarning of the death of Americans, McConnell freely “pulled the curtain back” on previously declassified information about surveillance in the interview. Explaining details ranging from secret court rulings to information on obtaining wiretapping warrants, McConnell “raised eyebrows” for his “frank discussion of previously classified eavesdropping work” conducted under FISA.
Some highlights of McConnell’s revelations:
Court ruling declared Bush’s program illegal on May 31: “After the 31st of May we were in extremis because now we have significantly less capability” when a federal court ruled part of the wiretapping program illegal, McConnell said.
Private sector actively involved in wiretapping program: “Under the president’s program, the terrorist surveillance program, the private sector had assisted us,” said McConnell. “Now if you play out the suits at the value they’re claimed, it would bankrupt these companies,” McConnell said, arguing for legal immunity for the companies when Congress returns from recess.
McConnell denies White House involvement: “The president’s guidance to me early in the process, was, ‘You’ve got the experience. I trust your judgement. You make the right call. There’s no pressure from anybody here,” McConnell claimed.
Thousands overseas are being monitored via warrants. “Offering never-disclosed figures, McConnell also revealed that fewer than 100 people inside the United States are monitored under FISA warrants. However, he said, thousands of people overseas are monitored,” states the AP.
Takes 200 hours to assemble a wiretapping warrant: McConnell alleged that “the issue is volume and time” as to why he was so adamant about pursuing warrantless wiretapping. “My argument was that the intelligence community should not be restricted. … It takes about 200 man hours to do one telephone number.”
Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) said he believes McConnell declassified the information in this interview because he “wanted to push back on accusations that the legislation gave the attorney general unprecedented new powers.” “I think they felt they had to become more public,” said Hoekstra.
The Bush administration seems to believe it is permissible to talk about illegal wiretapping to save face, but not okay for Americans to question them about it.
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This is simply a precursor for what we know conservatives will say if there is another attack on our soil. They will, of course, blame the attack on Democrats.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:32 pmNeocon wingnuts now want to kill Americans!
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:34 pmBoo. Hehe, tell em again Dick. BOO! Hehehe, see… Watch em run Dick. Do it again. Boo! Hehehe, there they go again Dick. Now their running back to the other side. Hehehe, I just love scaring em how bout you Dick?
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:35 pmfear fear fear fear fear!! So, if we don’t give these people more power….YOU are going to die!
whew, what a relief. At least I’m now “safe”
Seriously, though, are people still falling for this garbage?
Terrorist will never, ever “destroy” America. they will never, ever end our way of life. They can’t.
The only way that will come is from within. From our own dirty, criminal politicians who love power more than your freedom.
Read on if you’d like:
“You Are Destroying America. Yes, You.”
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:38 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/ you_are_destroying_america_yes_you
Give me a friggin break. Does he actually think that the “terrorists” don’t know that we are spying on them? How stupid does he think we are?
For the life of me I can’t understand how our government can’t figure out who the terrorists are when they had three days to wiretap without a warrant before the law was changed. If they can’t find them in the three days, or go to a court and convince the court that they have actionable data, then they are never going to be able to find terrorists.
The only reason why they wanted the law changed is because they don’t want anyone to know who they are wiretapping. Why is that?
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:39 pmI’ve heard of ‘the killer joke’ but ‘the killer debate’?
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:40 pmI’ve got news for you McConnell — people are already dying in Iraq.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:42 pmWho is that old woman…and how did she lose her hair?
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:42 pmMcConnell killed the last beaver in America and put it on his head.
Fish & Game is looking for him.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:47 pmAs usual, the douchebags at TP who intentionally and viciously distort everything out of the mouths of an administration member totally got McConnell’s intentions wrong. Furthermore, the problem regarding the leftarded scum’s double-standard when it comes to classified surveillance programs is their penchant for always revealing these, to the detriment of the US and the benefit of Al-Qaeda. To correct the douchebags at Toilet Paper, the Bush Admin. believes it’s correct to show instances where wiretapping has actually helped US national security, but it doesn’t believe that such classified programs should be divulged…as the leftards’ allies at the NYT have done, for instance. If the progtarded terror-abetters here don’t take the word of McConnell (who knows a hell of a lot more about threats to the US than the libs), then the progs are on record for believing that they think the US government is a bigger threat to their safety than terrorists.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:50 pmlol, i was just gonna ask what furry animal died on his head ZOO
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:50 pmComment by Wiretappingalwayslegal — August 22, 2007
I quit reading at the fourth word and first ad-hominen projectionist rant.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:52 pmComment by Wiretappingalwayslegal — August 22, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
Thanks for making your identity so obvious that we can skip your posts so easily. You do know almost nobody reads them, don’t you, idiot.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:53 pmWell of course this zipperhead is being so adament. He’s the Director of National Intelligence and he doesn’t want anyone to take away his new toy. Noone is saying you can’t listen in on terrorists, we simply want sufficient oversight via warrents. How someone so daft could become head of INTELLIGENCE speaks volumes about this corrupt administration. BECAUSE Bush trusts this a$$hat only makes me more suspicious. If you’ve got nothing to hide McConnell…
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:56 pmWhen someone like McConnel tells you that you have to let them break the law or innocent people are going to die, how is that different from terrorism itself? Perhaps the best weapon against terrorism is not secrecy but courage and confidence in the power of justice.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:57 pm“We must have absolute power to protect the country”- Adolf Hitler & George W. Bush
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:57 pmDemocrats = The party of death and defeat!
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:59 pmmaybe what mconnell is saying is that the bush admin is going to start whacking dissidents.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:01 pmIt takes about 200 man hours to do one telephone number.
Holy crap. Who do they have doing this job? Jason M. Hendler? Is that 2 guys taking 100 hours each or 200 men taking 1 hour each? Sounds like a huge waste of money.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:01 pm“We must have absolute power to protect the countryâ€- Adolf Hitler & George W. Bush
Comment by Uncle Ho — August 22, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
The difference is Hitler had a higher IQ ……. and looked better in his uniform than Dubya in his inflatable codpiece flight suit.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:02 pm… then the progs are on record for believing that they think the US government is a bigger threat to their safety than terrorists.
Comment by Wiretappingalwayslegal — August 22, 2007 @ 7:50
Can I go on record with that please?
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:03 pmWill the dumbass troll still believe all wiretappings are legal when Democrats are running the government? My guess is no.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:04 pmComment by Wiretappingalwayslegal — August 22, 2007 @ 7:50
Can I go on record with that please?
Comment by Egreggious — August 22, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
See who is back, Eg? ast night was fun, though.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:05 pmI know that I die a little bit every time I hear another account of the immoral actions of my government.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:05 pmHitler had a higher IQ.-comment by upside00
True, also, Hitler was a bona fide war hero(won the Iron Cross 1st class- quite rare for an enlisted man).
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:09 pmComment by Wiretappingalwayslegal — August 22, 2007 @ 7:50
This is the same type person who also wanted smaller government [to drown it in a bathtub] or no government at all, who is now, ironically, supporting bigger government.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:10 pmSee who is back, Eg? Last night was fun, though.
Comment by upside00 — August 22, 2007 @ 8:05 pm
You guys went ballistic!
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:10 pmLook it’s very clear. If there is another attack, it will be entirely blamed on the president. The TV heads can say what they want, we’ve all stopped listening to the BS long ago. McConnel’s giant cop out here indicates he doesn’t deserve to be in the job. Shameful really.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:10 pmDemocrats = The party of death and defeat!
Comment by veritas
Republicans= the party of projection and overcompensation for teenieweenies!
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:12 pmTrue, also, Hitler was a bona fide war hero(won the Iron Cross 1st class- quite rare for an enlisted man).
Comment by Uncle Ho — August 22, 2007 @ 8:09 pm
Oh yeah? Well….my grandfather was a corporal three times. :-)
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:13 pmIf we talk about things our government does illegally we will all die!!!!!!!!!AAAAHH!!!!!Die, I tell you…DIE!!!!!
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:14 pmRepublicans= the party of projection and overcompensation for teenieweenies!
Comment by bobwurst — August 22, 2007 @ 8:12 pm
Someone hijacked veritas’ name. It’s been reported.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:14 pmWe must listen in on the conversations of the Quakers or Americans will die.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:14 pmWonder what they’ll think about all that executive power when Hillary is sitting in the oval office?
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:17 pmSomeone hijacked veritas’ name. It’s been reported.
Comment by Zooey
Mr Pee [WTIAL] is still up to his old tricks. Next he will namejack himself then whine about being namejacked and claim to to report himself.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:18 pmZooey- is that really you or some namejacking troll?
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:19 pm“It takes about 200 man hours to do one telephone number”
And he expects us to believe that. Give me a break. They have a template. They fill in the blank for the phone number and they fill in the blank for why they think this is a bad guy. I could do that in 15 minutes tops.
The thing these people don’t realize is that the more lies they tell, the less people are going to believe them. They don’t realize that the more outrageous their lies are, the less people are going to believe them.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:19 pm#19 comment by yikes: It takes about 200 man hours to do one telephone number.
Holy crap. Who do they have doing this job?
Just what I was thinking. He left out the decimal point after the 2 and before the zeros.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:21 pmZooey- is that really you or some namejacking troll?
Comment by Uncle Ho — August 22, 2007 @ 8:19 pm
It’s me, Uncle Ho! :)
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:22 pm200 man hours x 300,000,000 Americans.
That’s a lot of time.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:23 pmThey don’t realize that the more outrageous their lies are, the less people are going to believe them.
Comment by bilbogaggins — August 22, 2007 @ 8:19 pm
Hasn’t the FISA court essentially said that all they really need to do is say, “We think this dude is involved in terrorist activity, and need to wiretap him?”
Like you said, they must have a frickin’ form on the computer. 200 man hours, my ass.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:26 pm200 man hours x 300,000,000 Americans.
That’s a lot of time.
Comment by Egreggious
It’s ok, haliburton has outsourced the project to china.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:27 pmHiya Zooey!!! You set for another term in college? When will you graduate?
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:29 pmIt’s ok, haliburton has outsourced the project to china.
Comment by bobwurst — August 22, 2007 @ 8:27 pm
GOD BLESS HALLIBURTON, CHINA, DICK CHENEY, & TOM TANCREDO!
YoohooOoOOoooOoooOOOoooOOOoooOOOOoooOOOOoooOOOOOooooOOOOOOooo!!!!!!!!!!!
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:29 pmAnd if all of the pretty girls don’t have sex with me, I’ll go blind. At least, that’s what the Doc said.
How ’bout it, ladies?
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:29 pmits ok if Americans die as long as its by the constitution,
trust me
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:29 pmjust get them drunk, MA, libtard girls really like the booze!
ask Zo
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:31 pmIt’s OK if the Constitution dies. I hate our freedoms anyway.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:31 pmCan’t you just hide in the closet, for Christ’s sake?
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:31 pmQ: So you’re saying that the reporting and the debate in Congress means that some Americans are going to die?
McCONNELL: That’s what I mean.
Americans are going to die because we let people smoke and drink. Quick, someone alert the DHSFDABATFNSAOVP.
Cheers,
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:32 pmHow ’bout it, ladies?
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
Time to buy a cane, Marcus.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:32 pmI’m talkin’ to you, biotch.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:32 pmMarcus; send me your address, and I will send you that white cane you’ll be needing. :-)
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:33 pmjust get them drunk, MA, libtard girls really like the booze!
ask Zo Comment by Im a libtarded TP moonbat
As I recall, it was young Republican Michael Flory that raped a drunk girl. Ironically the drunk girl was a conservative.
Nevertheless don’t fall asleep around a conpervative.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:34 pm… the progs are on record for believing that they think the US government is a bigger threat to their safety than terrorists the Bee People.
Comment by Wiretappingalwayslegal — August 22, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:34 pm14 guys…….all night orgy…….=200 man hours… and that’s how the bill reads
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:34 pmDamn!
My strikeout code didn’t work. How do you do that?
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:35 pmZo TPs resident boozer
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:36 pm“It’s OK if the Constitution dies. I hate our freedoms anyway”- comment by Egreggious.
Spoken like a true Nazi!
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:37 pmIt doesn’t seem as though McConnell has captured a single terrorist. So what makes him think he is not wasting our money by spying on us?
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:37 pmI’m talkin’ to you, biotch.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 8:32 pm
I thought your doc said pretty girls [not pretty desperate girls].
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:37 pmUncle Ho? Is that you? Come a little closer…my vision is fading…faaaadiinggg…!
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:38 pmSpoken like a true Nazi!
Comment by Uncle Ho — August 22, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
I guess I’ve been hanging around the trolls too much. :-)
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:38 pmAnd you are the village idiot.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:39 pmZo TPs resident boozer
Comment by Im a libtarded TP moonbat — August 22, 2007 @ 8:36 pm
Condi and I have drank her under the table many times. She’s a lightweight.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:40 pmNeocon wingnuts now want to kill Americans!
Comment by Not Canadian — August 22, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
That’s pretty much where we’re at, isn’t it? Let’s poison judges, hang reporters, and hope the terraists strike again to teach those damned libs a good lesson! Ye Gods… the degree of insanity is off the charts.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:40 pmthen the progs are on record for believing that they think the US government is a bigger threat to their safety than terrorists.
Comment by Wiretappingalwayslegal — August 22, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
Careful, folks. This one’s liable to explode any second. What’s truly astonisihng is that a poster like this thinks he’s making us look bad, but any sane detached person would have to think he suffers from some raging, undiagnosed mental illness. Please continue on.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:44 pmThe Republic of Stupidity sez:
No need to “hope”, when generating another “terrorist incident” is so damned easy…
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:48 pmMcConnell is lying big-time, but all Bush Regime stooges lie. It’s part of their job to lie to Congress and the American public.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:49 pmFACT: The US Government IS graver threat to the American people than Osama Been Forgotten.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:51 pmHiya Zooey!!! You set for another term in college? When will you graduate?
Comment by Uncle Ho — August 22, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
Yep, Uncle Ho, I just started the Fall semester on Monday. Graduate? Oh lordy, 2010 maybe. Heh. I’m starting from scratch.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:51 pmNo need to “hopeâ€, when generating another “terrorist incident†is so damned easy…
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 22, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
True, and therefore scary…
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:54 pmSpeaking of college, I’ve been feeling pretty low lately.
I was thinking about enrolling at Regent’s and committing intellectual suicide.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:55 pmZooey sez:
Don’t feel bad, Z…it took me ten years to work my way through college. ^_^
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:56 pmI know you’ve all been having a lot of fun with Egg tonight, but I need his help “catering” another late-night “affair”.
So say good night, everyone. C’mon, Eggy, let’s go.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:57 pmI was thinking about enrolling at Regent’s and committing intellectual suicide.
Comment by Egreggious — August 22, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
Hell, you don’t even have to enroll, just start believing everything BushCo says, and ask no questions.
You’ll be a goner, for sure.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:58 pmG’bye!
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:58 pmGeez Marth, you spoil all the fun. :(
Have fun, Egg. Goodnight!
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:59 pmCBS NEWS: Bush video from veterans… yeah situation very dramatic… yeah just like Vietnam… no need to discuss the deficit
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:59 pm200 man hours…..how many people does that include? A manager, 3 workers, secretary…some interns, a courier, the mail room guy……..
Add that up and 200 hours goes quickly.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:00 pmDon’t feel bad, Z…it took me ten years to work my way through college. ^_^
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 22, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
If it takes me that long, I’ll just keep going to school until I die.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:00 pmStudent loans be damned. :D
I thought he said it takes about 200 man whores to do one telephone number. Jeff Gannon to the rescue. That man never sleeps.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmCareful, folks. This one’s liable to explode any second. What’s truly astonisihng is that a poster like this thinks he’s making us look bad, but any sane detached person would have to think he suffers from some raging, undiagnosed mental illness. Please continue on.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 22, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
I’m not sure it’s undiagnosed, but it’s sure untreated. I have the impression that the troll is completely exhausted after each one of these bursts of incoherence, because there’s never any follow-up comments. I think it has to go lie down and rest until the next thread appears and it has to crank out more of its fevered babble.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:03 pmComment by Zooey
The best way to leave this Earth, financially speaking, is to have the check you gave to the cemetary bounce.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:03 pmThat man never sleeps.
Comment by Dave C — August 22, 2007 @ 9:02 pm
Except when he’s sleeping around.
All right, Martha, I’m coming!
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:04 pmAll right, Martha, I’m coming!
Comment by Egreggious — August 22, 2007 @ 9:04 pm
Heh. I’m not saying a word…..
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:05 pmZooey sez:
Fortunately, I made it through college without incurring any debt from student loans.
Unfortunately, my better half has $40,000 of student loans outstanding… :(
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:05 pmI think it has to go lie down and rest until the next thread appears and it has to crank out more of its fevered babble.
Comment by gummitch — August 22, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
It certainly is mental illness.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:05 pmThe best way to leave this Earth, financially speaking, is to have the check you gave to the cemetary bounce.
Comment by dlet — August 22, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
Ohhhh, that’s low. :D
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:07 pmZooey; it took me several years for 2 degrees. Financed by a combination of the GI Bill, monthly pay from mandatory weekend warrior(Naval Reserve) participation, and summer jobs.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:09 pmIt certainly is mental illness.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 22, 2007 @ 9:05 pm
At least it gets it out in one comment per thread.
I consider that a plus. :)
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:11 pmZooey; it took me several years for 2 degrees. Financed by a combination of the GI Bill, monthly pay from mandatory weekend warrior(Naval Reserve) participation, and summer jobs.
Comment by Uncle Ho — August 22, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
Cool. What kind of degrees do you have?
I figure it’s taken me this long to start college, it will take as long as it takes for me to finish. Right now, I’m letting student loans and scholarships pay for school and living on savings. I’ll probably start working next summer, at least part time.
I’m having fun!
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:15 pmZooey- degrees in applied biology and medical laboratory technology.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:17 pmUncle Ho,
That’s impressive!
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmclaiming Americans, particularly in Iraq, would “die†because of the debate.
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As DrXJ would say, “How so? Please explain.” (BTW, I really enjoy that response to troll droppings.)
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmAnyone connected to this gang has another agenda.The closer to the scource the more to lose.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmThe whole spy thing is only to protect themselves from people who are aware of the truth and may spread truth.Truth is this gangs enemy.
Come on! Talking about wire taps is going to kill people??
Remember when there was a law against yelling fire in puplic?
These guys have no real reasons for saying anything they say.
What this guy is saying now is only some noise.This has no real meaning.
They have run out of sensible logical word combinations.At least for most thinking people.
Keep talking about wiretapping and they’ll attack us, blame it on “terrorists”, and impose a police state while blaming the “liberals” for making it happen by emboldening the terrorists with all this “bill of Rights” talk. Hell, they may even have to round up the rest of the liberals just to keep the homeland safe.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:24 pmZooey; I did consider becoming a marine biologist, but didn’t think it had a steady employment prospect. What are you studying?
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:26 pmOf course government secrecy and spying… on you and your neighbor offers more security than an open society… but that is fascism…not democracy.
And under a fascist setting both you and your neighbor also run the chance that any particular government might not like you and put you away secretly and without recourse to law.
From Wikopedia:
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:27 pm“Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers individual and other societal interests subordinate to the needs of the state, and seeks to forge a type of national unity, usually based on, but not limited to, ethnic, cultural, or racial attributes. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, authoritarianism, statism, militarism, corporatism, populism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, and opposition to economic and political liberalism.”
So, now that unsupervised spying is allowed to go on, does this mean our new democratic president and future overwhelmingly huge democratic Congress may continue the spying as the president did… but this time spying on the republicans?
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:27 pmi get drunk and go on TP just like TPs resident drunko Zo
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:28 pmIm a libtarded TP moonbat sez:
Big deal. So do I…
As an added bonus, I’m still able to use contractions properly while inebriated. ^_^
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:30 pmComment by Uncle Ho — August 22, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
Marine biology sounds fun, but you’re right, who would pay you to have that much fun? :)
I’m studying Sociology, but am considering switching to Psychology when my required courses are out of the way. I’ll have to see how things shake out.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:31 pmHey loons!
Hillary says the SUrge is working and you loons are still crying about the truth of what you did to us in Vietnam.
PRESIDENT Bush will not cut and run like the Democrats did then and want to do now.
I love watching him outsmart you whackos at every turn.
Troop funding….Fisa….The Surge….
Must be painful to wake up everyday hating your country and yourselves.
Now, back to the coming war with Iran and the self destruction of the Democrat party.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:32 pmCould it be that the disclosure by McConnell (that this article refers to) is being made in order to help deter Congressional inquiry, and lawsuits, regarding warrantless surveillance by the Bush administration; and in particular is designed to deter inquiry by the Senate Judiciary Committee regarding James Comey’s May 2007 testimony and related testimony by the Attorney General ?
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:32 pmThe old joke goes “I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy”. It’s rather scary that some trolls have both.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:32 pmAs an added bonus, I’m still able to use contractions properly while inebriated. ^_^
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 22, 2007 @ 9:30 pm
I type perfectly when I’m tipsy. :)
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:33 pmIf I could spend an evening with you, I’d cherish each minute that we’re together. I’d stare into your crazy eyes , and, without a single word, you’d know how much I want to sex you up.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:34 pm#99….
52 % of AMERICAN Hate Hillary….better not get your hopes up that thunderhips will win.
Now, back to the coming war with Syria.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:34 pmPOAC nailed it.
They’re setting us up for the martial law coup.
They don’t want us challenging their authoritay.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:36 pmComment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 9:34 pm
You make me laugh so hard with your love talk for trollies. :D
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:36 pmHillary says the SUrge is working
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In Fantasy Land words are often spun from logical threads to whole cloth lies.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:37 pmHey, POAC:
Sorry, thought you was a troll (on second reading, I see that you’re not)! I really don’t want to sex you up, and I’m sure your eyes ain’t crazy. Please disregard.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:37 pm“thunderhips”. Why not discuss her cleavage too? The SCLM does. Come on, let’s discuss positions not thighs.
Syria’s not on the list for the US. The Israelis have them covered.
Tobey Tall had the scoop from IHC today about the scale of the attack on Iran.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:38 pmIf I could spend an evening with you, I’d cherish each minute that we’re together. I’d stare into your crazy eyes , and, without a single word, you’d know how much I want to sex you up.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 22, 2007 @ 9:34 pm
bravo, Marcus Aurelius!
bravo!!!
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:38 pmThanks, Z. I’ll keep on posting, you keep on laughing!
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:38 pmbetter not get your hopes up that thunderhips will win.
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If “dunderlips” Bush can win the presidency, it’s true that ANYONE can become President of the United States.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:39 pmI read the bulk of the interview. I think the Administration is trying to have it both ways. While they try to defuse any more calls for Congressional Inquires into the Illegal Programs, they are also saying that this is all the “Info your gonna get so F**K Off.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:39 pmCould backfire on them though (one can hope).
re your earlier post Cepan - please check my comments on the General Batiste thread. Thanks for supporting my thesis.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:40 pmchicky check,
microphone check 1
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:42 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNXg6QOIsJERay Taliaferro - Directive 51 Dictator Bush
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:42 pmIf “dunderlips†Bush can win the presidency, it’s true that ANYONE can become President of the United States.
Well….Bush and Reagan seem to have always figure out how to make you loons do what they want.
How’s that majority working out for you?
PeLOSER and Harry “The Body” Reid are the pefect nutcases to represent the Democrat party.
This gets better each day.
Now, back to the coming attack on Iran as the Democrats cry about the mean old Republicans outsmarting them once again.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:43 pmPLC - anyone with enough money to run a “sock puppet”. I prefer the “any Organ Grinder can buy a Chimp” analogy though.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:43 pmchicky check,
microphone check 2
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:43 pmWhat really jumps out art me is how these guys and gals mange to obfuscate and confuse in such a way that you don’t know what the hell it is they are saying.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:44 pmI thought Nixon’s people were good at it, these guys make it an art form. Really scary.
That’s an interesting take on the geopolitical situation, but did you know that common warthogs have a polygynandrous mating system, and that adult males are usually solitary and join female groups briefly for mating. The females attract boars by sight and smell by urinating in a hunched position.
What are your thoughts in light of this?
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:45 pmIf you talk about wiretaps, terrorists are going to find some other way to plot the killing of Americans, therefore, by making this public, Americans will die.
Are you happy now, liberals.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:46 pmJim Wolf359
It depends on what the meaning of “is”…..is.
Is that what you mean about obfuscate adn confuse????
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:46 pmOr is that just lying to a Grnad Jury?
Syria, now Iran. Can you tell your Shia from your Sunni, Cepan? if you can u r ahead of your Fuhrer. Or perhaps you failed geography - not surprising if you are an American.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:46 pmYes, but who watches the watchers?
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:46 pmHey numbnuts: you probably won’t be able to hear anything untill you take it out of your ass.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:46 pmMarcus Aurelius
Did you know that 9 out of 10 people hate to be squished?
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:47 pmJust checked out Cepan’s blog for the hell of it. This won’t be news to any of us here but Cepan, you are a MORON!
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:47 pmSyria, now Iran. Can you tell your Shia from your Sunni, Cepan?
Who cares?!?! A terrorist is a terrorist!
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:48 pmOh crap - Augustus just let the terrorists know we are wiretapping them. Oh sh*t now what?
Off to a navy brig in Norfolk with him that’s what I say!
/sarcasm off
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:48 pmagain:
Ray Taliaferro - Directive 51 Dictator Bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNXg6QOIsJE
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:49 pmJim Wolf359
A huge number of Bush’s people WERE Nixon’s people and they’ve been working a long time at their art form, waiting for the opportunity to elevate the presidency’s power and devalue the courts, Congress, the media, and the will of the people. Really scary, indeed.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:49 pmCan’t you get anything right? It’s 10 out of 10.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:49 pmTerrytheTurtle:
We need to dust off the bombers and go after BOTH Syria and Iran.
Russian helped move the WMD’s into Syria….(which is why we still say there were no WMD;s in Iraq….can;t piss of the ex-KGB Putin now can we?
and Iran is supplying wepaons to Al Qeada in Iraq.
Get it now?
Or that too much for a non-American elitist to follw?
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:49 pmJim Wolf359:
The truth hurts you loons.
There is more reality in one line of my blog than in your entire puny little lib brain.
You already know this…but you are INSANE!
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:51 pmAnother typical genocidal comment from tonight’s tool, Augustus.
So, please enlighten us how you are going to spot the terrorists in Syria and Iran? be careful here - there’s a twist bear with me.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:52 pmPLC, yeah I just ran that list of people through my head, starting with Darth Cheney and Rummy. Then add people like Gonzo and Condi, among others to the list and it just goes to show that brains don’t qualify for this gang. Just stupidity and blind loyalty.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:52 pmcommon warthogs have a polygynandrous mating system, and that adult males are usually solitary and join female groups briefly for mating. The females attract boars by sight and smell by urinating in a hunched position.
What are your thoughts in light of this?
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
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Who knew that warthogs are the evolutionary advance of the pseudo-family value Republicans? I love coming to TP to learn. Professor Aurelius, you are the best!
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:53 pmNASA admitted a few days ago that they made a huge mistake in temperature readings for the last 100 years. They had to admit 1934 was the hottest year ever, NOT 1998 like the “Global Warming” whackos use as the “proof” of disaster looming.
Chew on that loons.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:53 pmSo? Such a bunch of chickens.
Anyway, banning cigarettes would save many more lives.
But do you want to sacrifice your liberty to save (maybe) a few more lives?
Even if they save thousands of lives, it’s not worth it over the long-term.
We should be increasing liberty, as well as engaging in more positive constructive activity to spread happiness so that people no longer want to attack us.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:54 pmChickenhawk troll sure talks tough from his mom’s basement.
He’s in a hurry to start Dubya Dubya 3.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:54 pmAnother typical genocidal comment from tonight’s tool, Augustus.
Since when is talking about killing terrorists a “genocidal comment”?
What, do you think that we should respect the values of suicide bombers and other muslim extremists?
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:54 pm“The truth hurts you loons.
There is more reality in one line of my blog than in your entire puny little lib brain.
You already know this…but you are INSANE!
Comment by Cepan — August 22, 2007 @ 9:51 pm”
Delusions of grandeur can be cured - check with your medical professional.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:55 pmOh dear Cepan rolled out the Russia-Syria-WMD connection..
If you don’t mind posters, please deal with Cepan - I am trying to eat my fish and chips.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:55 pmWhen your talking points and “facts” are all wing-nut trash that you got from Limpdick, O’lielly, Coultergeist, et; al, then I guess you could call the truth.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:56 pmA very warped and decietful truth that is, also known as a PACK OF LIES>
There is more reality in one line of my blog than in your entire puny little lib brain.
Comment by Cepan
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WOW! You mean, like, you know, as much reality as in the TV reality shows??
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:57 pmSince when is talking about killing terrorists a “genocidal comment�
When a$sholes like you think all 1.5 Billion Moslems in the world are terrorists.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:57 pmWhy are the repubes such chickensh1ts? It is totally inconsistent with their belief that they are going to everlasting glory when they die.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:58 pmWe gave saddam his weapons. Now we’re selling them on the open market all over the middle east. We also “lost” close to 200,000 assault rifles and pistols since we invaded Iraq.
You are a moron.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:58 pmAugustus - your position on Syria and Iran is that they are all terrorists, right? Therefore, your position on attacking both countries is to kill them all s ergo genocide.
Please explain your position if I have connected the dots correctly. Do you wish to exterminate all Iranians and Syrians - if not please elaborate?
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:58 pmWrong Cesspan, and like the wingnuts, you cherry picked. 1998 still ranks as the hottest year on record, WORLD WIDE. The correction is for Climate records for the US. Check it out at the NASA website, which is something you where too lazy to do.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:58 pmTerrytheTurtle
Try Steak and eggs as you ponder the truth about Syria and Russia I gave you…..
NOw…back to Hillary and Nancy PeLOSER singing ” I am an ugly woman hear me nag.”
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:59 pmThose two Repuke trolls need to get a room.
And not their mom’s basement either.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:00 pm#156
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:01 pmOY!
There is more reality in one line of my blog than in your entire puny little lib brain.
Comment by Cepan
so that’s it, ey? awesome.
i thank the flying spaghetti monster for my puny little brain.
who the hell are you anyway?
the Hulk.
hrmmmph… Hulk smash puny little libtard!
hrummmph.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:02 pmAugustus - your position on Syria and Iran is that they are all terrorists, right?
Wrong. I said:
Who cares [whether they are sunni or shia]? A terrorist is a terrorist!
Anything you read into that is all you, liberal.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:03 pmCepan - what truth? Please explain. Use recognised news outlets and journalists. So far you are just a windbag who appears to have crawled out from under the Redstate.org rock just yesterday.
Best of luck finding your proof of what you have said. Without proof you sir are a liar.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:04 pmMarcus Aurelius:
Read the posts here for all but me and a few others and then tell me who the morons are…..loon.
as for you Jim Wolf666—–
You are WRONG….the figures prove the ENTIRE global warming scam is a lie.
It makes ALL the models AL “OZONE MAN” Gore and loons like you used to cry “The Sky is falling!” now seen for what they are …JUNK SCIENCE.
New York city had the coldest day EVER in AUgust yesterday…and you want to talk about so-called “Global Warming”.
Pathetic.
What will you do when in 10 years none of your scares come true?
Go back to global COOLING iike you anti-capitalist environmental whackos did in the 1970’s until the funding fried up?
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:04 pmCepan; Proof of Russia moving moving WMDs from Iraq to Syria or you are a proven liar.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:05 pmAre the suicide bombers you refer to also the muslim extremists? Or are the suicide bombers and the muslim extremists two different groups? It makes a difference, you know.
And these ‘values’ you speak of - please list them in alphabetical order (unless, of course, they are numerical values, then you should list them in numerical order).
When posting on a blog, clarity is important - otherwise, people will think you’re an idiot.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:06 pmOk Augustus - now tell me how you are going to sort the ‘terrorists’ from the local Syrians and Iranians. Lock em all up and stick broomsticks up their arses until they confess? Worked so well in Iraq. Try it again.
Come on - apply yourself. Jobs are opening at the White House everyday right now.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:07 pmThe proof is here…
http://matwellworld.blogspot.com/
read the entire post….then spin twice in your chair and say ” I will never question an American Republican Conservative again.”
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:07 pmNew York city had the coldest day EVER in AUgust yesterday…and you want to talk about so-called “Global Warmingâ€.
Pathetic.
Pathetic is the word alright. Global Warming doesn’t mean that every day is going to be hot. That’s like saying “Tiger Woods didn’t play well yesterday, he’s not the best golfer in the world.” Pure unadulterated ignorance.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:07 pmChimpy didn’t even KNOW there were Sunnis and Shia when he invaded Iraq.
Stupid Repukes are going to start Dubya Dubya 3.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:07 pmUncle Ho:
Pick up the numerous books by Societ and Iraqi military men who moved them….
in the meantime….
prove Hillary is a woman are you are a loon lib….oh, that’s right…you are that already.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:08 pmCepan, provide proof, not the propaganda crap from the right wing that you call “Proof”. Otherwise, you’re a lair.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:10 pmJeez, these trolls are REALLY stupid. They’ll global warming deniers.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:11 pmsorry, but looking at the posts, there are a lot of sick individuals in here. next time you cash your unemployment checks you may want to seek out a doctor to give you a prescription for something a little stronger. a reality pill would be really, really good.
oh and while your in the queue, you might want to talk to the people around you, you’ll find that most want the same thing you want, a free ride, a free meal, the ability to rob the convenience store without having your picture taken, etc.
have a good night, oh, by the way, circle K records your every move
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:11 pmMarcus Aurelius
Sorry, thought you was a troll (on second reading, I see that you’re not)! I really don’t want to sex you up, and I’m sure your eyes ain’t crazy. Please disregard.
No worries. Click my name and you’ll see who I am.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:11 pmDave C :
Thank you loon for proving my point.
Every time there is a hot day all we hear is “Global warming did this…run away!”
Every time there is hurricane or a storm or your toenail hurts it is caused by “global warming” to you nutcsaes.
Now that I used your meathods against you you cry foul and finally see how intellectually dishonest you are all!
Congratulations!
You get a cookie!
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:11 pmnow tell me how you are going to sort the ‘terrorists’ from the local Syrians and Iranians
Libtard!
If I told you that, Americans would die!
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:11 pmCepan - you linked to someones blog. Bloggers can write any crazy shit - look at your posts for gods sake. Try a peer-reviewed science paper or two…..
What a mong.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:11 pmNo worries. Click my name and you’ll see who I am.
Comment by POAC — August 22, 2007 @ 10:11 pm
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Traitor. Moonbat. LibtardefeatocRAT.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:12 pmCepan, check that link you gave against the original article here…
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/246027
You’ll notice that on your link they omitted this bit of information…
NASA officials have dismissed the changes as trivial. Even the Canadian who spotted the original flaw says the revisions are “not necessarily material to climate policy.”
That’s called intellectual dishonesty. It’s like GWB cooking the intelligence and only accepting/considering the parts that fit his needs. It tells you a lot about that site eh?
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:12 pmEvery time there is a hot day all we hear is “Global warming did this…run away!â€
Actually that’s not true. It’s more often used the way you did, pointing to cold days. The Global warming folks usually point at overall warming trends. Educate yourself, it’s not that hard really.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:13 pmOh Augustus - you are a parody troll. Very droll.
I’m a poet and I didn’t know it.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:14 pmPick up the numerous books by Societ and Iraqi military men who moved them….
Comment by Cepan
Did “Curveball” happen to write any of those books you are talking about? Or some of his good buddies that get special treatment when they tell lies that Bushie wants to hear? Yeah…those books….filed right next to the last Harry Potter book.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:14 pmCepen-books written by Ahmed Chalabi and curveball no doubt. Some proof. no doubt you think that ‘Mein Kampf’ is the greatest book ever written too.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:14 pmAl Gore: Cut the damn rigging free before we lose the mast!
Cepan: IIIICEBEEEEERG!
Al Gore: HARD TO PORT!
Jeff Gannon: It’s going to ram us!
Dick Cheney: It wouldn’t dare!
Total, stunning silence.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:15 pmDave C sez:
Nice catch, Dave C.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:15 pmI have a butcher friend who assures me that “meathods” are, indeed, foul and potentially dangerous if eaten raw.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:15 pmI think he’s hopeless Dave C. I think it’s time to ignore this particularly vile troll. Its pretty obvious that there is nothing left to argue with Cesspan.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:16 pmThat proves it: you’re an idiot.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:16 pmDagaDagaDagaDaga
Cesspan’s going down in flames Biffo……… tally ho.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:17 pmJim Wolf359 —Tom3
The BELIEVERS in so-called “global warming” are the stupid ones.
No proof of it exists, not records for 1over 00 years ago exist to prove any of it….no proof of anyhting but made up and rigged computer models and the “hockey Stick”…which has been debunked.
(See the middle ages)
What is sad is that you are all lemmings going off the cliff and trying to take capitalism and the USA with it…well we are all sick of it and people have realized it is a scam.
Try something new to scare us all into giving money to the whacko groups…..like maybe the mercury in those new eneregy saving bulbs will kill us all.
Or how about this: Hillary and Obama will join forces and become the leaders of the “Ban Clothespin springs!” organization.
you are all lunatics and stupid people….go shave your heads.
Time to watch Foxnews for some sanity.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:17 pmCepan - you linked to someones blog. Bloggers can write any crazy shit - look at your posts for gods sake. Try a peer-reviewed science paper or two…..
Check the blog, it’s this dude’s own blog. So now he uses his own writing to prove that his writing here is valid. Yikes.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:17 pmYeah I noticed that about his blog also. Pretty lame if you ask me.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:18 pmMr Pee and his boyfriend, Cepan.
**yawn**
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:19 pmCepan sez:
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:19 pmCepan or bedpan? Both are full of excrement.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:20 pmAnd there we have it - Cesspool says that Global Warming is a matter of ‘belief’. Sorry sonny, science has been cleaning belief’s clock since Galileo.
That’s it - these trolls are broken please send better ones or Ill be off. Night all.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:20 pmThank you loon for proving my point.
Every time there is a hot day all we hear is “Global warming did this…run away!â€
Every time there is a cold day in summer all we hear is that “Global Climate Change is bunk….keep polluting!”
Every time there is hurricane or a storm or your toenail hurts it is caused by “global warming†to you nutcsaes.
Every time there is a snowy day in Buffalo in December it is because Global Climate Change doesn’t exist to you nutjobs.
Now that I used your meathods against you you cry foul and finally see how intellectually dishonest you are all!
I don’t know what a meathod is me thinks you is one.
Congratulations!
Thanks!
You get a cookie!
Hmmm…..oatmeal raisin…hmmmm…
Comment by Cepan
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:20 pmlame is as lame does, but of course i use both sides of my brain. forest would have been proud of you guys
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:21 pmDave C :
NASA is a hack political group when it comes to “global warming”
They got caught in a lie and STILL they have to pretend it means nothing.
I saw that part of the story, it is just not important since NASA had to be TOLD they screwed up.
It IS relevant to “climater change” and proves you are all liars and fools
Nice try though.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:21 pmHe calls that wimpy little thing a blog? I’ve seen women with bigger blogs than that.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:22 pmPretty lame if you ask me.
Comment by Jim Wolf359 — August 22, 2007 @ 10:18 pm
Did you really expect anything else? This is getting both very sad and hysterically funny at the same time. TP has become some sort of “Holy Grail” for these incredibly angry, irrational… Hell, I’m not even sure what they are.
Totally incoherent rants, delusional wack jobs quoting themselves to prove their “points”. Just… astonishing…
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:23 pm