Comment by m12 — August 23, 2007 @ 11:21 am

But as I pointed out earlier (and which you obviously ignored), Bush has no problem going to the FISA court for a domestic-domestic call. So your “point” is bullshit.

Fixed for you.

Why does McConnell hate America?

Cheeky Bastard!

I disagree.

Even the nutcase Democratic Congress didn’t buy into this foolishness.. Then again, half of them want Bush’s job, so they know how essential wiretapping is.

Hmm? It would take 200 hours for international – domestic calls, but since internationals aren’t US citizens, there is no reason to waste the time!

The FISA court is not large enough to process the higher number of wiretaps needed today, compared to 1978. It now takes about 8000 hours for the court to do its garbage!

In 3 days? Yes!

Blantant fear mongering!

As far as the private sector goes all they had to do was act like good Americans like SOME did… help out all the government wants AFTER they hand over a warrant… real simple… then we know the government is being checked on by the courts…real simple… it happens all the time.

One memorable example is when Karl Rove told us all in 2006 that we would die if we didn’t vote Republican. We haven’t died. And I doubt we will die when we elect even more Dems in 2008 (despite predictable dire warnings from the right again).

The much heralded and sought-after victory has already eluded us. If one of the few things it takes to relish being an American are our dearly-beloved personal liberties tranfsfixed by the Constitution, we officially, just lost those too now. The same Constitution that every public official raises a right hand to swear to protect and defend, not to plunder and ignore.

Have the terrorists already won? What do you think? A new campaign is about to be launched to convince the people why they should pressure their congress men and women to support the contnuation of the Iraq war —you..mean Afghanistan, don’t you?

I believe a victory is still possible in AFGHANISTAN if we let ourselves regroup and remind ourselves why we started this squirmish into the wilds.

Is it time to invoke the spirit of the Founding and ask if this is what they had in mind, and if this is what has given the country the awesome reputation it has enjoyed before 2000?

Is another American life/limb worth involvement in a conflict that has roots in a civilization of 5000 years ago?

The much heralded and sought-after victory has already eluded us. If one of the few things it takes to relish being an American are our dearly-beloved personal liberties tranfsfixed by the Constitution, we officially, just lost those too now. The same Constitution that every public official raises a right hand to swear to protect and defend, not to plunder and ignore.

Have the terrorists already won? What do you think? A new campaign is about to be launched to convince the people why they should pressure their congress men and women to support the continuation of the Iraq war —you..mean Afghanistan, don’t you?

I believe a victory is still possible in AFGHANISTAN if we let ourselves regroup and remind ourselves why we started this squirmish into the wilds.

Is it time to invoke the spirit of the Founding and ask if this is what they had in mind, and if this is what has given the country the awesome reputation it has enjoyed before 2000?

Is another American life/limb worth involvement in a conflict that has roots in a civilization of 5000 years ago?

I once called the oversight committee early on in this fiasco, to thank them for all their hard work in constructing the Sword of Damocles in their implementation of the De-Federalization of the Constitutional Government or as commonly know, Competitive Outsourcing of the Federal Government. Somewhat startled they asked why I would thank them… Hehehe

I asked where in this government after the political pendulum swings the other way, would they ever hope to find a republican? The republicans, or more precisely the right wing radicals who have hijacked the republican party to guide it to its demise, have carefully constructed the very sword which will come crashing down on their unwitting heads after they no longer retain any power in government beyond that of a pityfull and yelping minority. The spyall bill, like so many other un-Constitutional attacks on liberty and freedom installed by their own hands, will come back to not only haunt them, but it may well be the wingnuts themselves who wake up in the camps carefully constructed by they so righteous leaders.

The Sword of Damocles is very sharp and cuts both ways.

1. McConnell’s claim that the program is “surgical” — which really deserves to be a highlight — focuses only on voice and not on data (ie, mail, web site traffic, blogs, public records). This deliberate conflation has been a central feature of trad press coverage on this issue, and we shouldn’t fall for it. Taken as a whole, the program is anything but surgical, for which I supply a mountain of evidence.

2. McConnell’s “kill Americans” line is the first use of der dolchstosslegende (”stab in the back” theory) by a major American political figure. We knew it’s coming, now it’s here.