NYT claims ‘anti-war activists’ protest military funerals.
By on Aug 22nd, 2007 at 2:08 pm
NYT claims ‘anti-war activists’ protest military funerals.
Editor and Publisher reports:
In a report [yesterday] on Sen. Barack Obama’s appearance this week at the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention in Kansas City, New York Times reporter Jeff Zeleney took a decidedly wrong turn in referring to one statement.
Zeleney wrote that Obama “said it was wrong for anti-war activists to protest at military funerals, declaring: ‘It needs to stop’.”
The quote at the end was accurate but nowhere did Obama refer to the protesters as “anti-war activists.” In fact, the protesters who have caused much outrage have been anti-gay activists.
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typical slipshod cut-corner generalization of the people in this country who are opposed to the war in iraq.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:13 pmHow could a journalist from the NYT not know about the whack jobs that protest everything because of homosexuality?
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:15 pmobviously, if you hate gays you are bashing the military!
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:17 pmHow could a journalist from the NYT not know about the whack jobs that protest everything because of homosexuality?
Comment by buzzbomb — August 22, 2007 @ 2:15 pm
Aww… give the man a break. He’s just trying to impress Rupert so he won’t lose his job after Murdoch takes over the NYT.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:18 pmThe “liberal media” strikes again!
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:21 pmTP’s lying through its teeth AGAIN by falsifying that these protesters are anti-gay protesters. TP’s obviously suffering from hypersensitivity about even the NYT unmasking just who the lowlives in the anti-war movement are, since progressives refuse to admit that anti-war activists also seriously hate US servicemen. The group in question is actually a fundamental and radicalized “religious” group (this doesn’t make them right-wing because that would be a leftarded oversimplification) which doesn’t protest gays. It gloats at US servicemen’s funerals because it believes that the soldiers’ deaths are punishment for the US’ acceptance of queers. However, because this group protests and relishes the deaths of US soldiers, it more closely identifies with the American left, which does the same atrocity against US soldiers. Further proving this group is really on the left, the ACLU actually represents these devils in court, arguing for their “right” to continue disrupting US servicemen’ s funerals.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:23 pmThat’s the first time I have ever heard Fred Phelps and his merry band of loonies referred to as “anti-war” activists.
Real anti-war activists (unless they are as demented as Phelps) wouldn’t choose military funerals as a venue for their protests. They want to be taken seriously by the public, and they know intruding on the grief of families who have lost loved ones to this stupid war isn’t the way to do it.
Phelps just has a crazy obsession that he is pleasing God, and getting his name in the paper is more important than swaying anybody to his point of view.
Zeleney needs to proof his column a little better. And so should his editor.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:24 pmFred Phelps will surely get his just desserts.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:25 pmive been banned?
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:25 pmTPisevenmoreradicallyleftthanNYT makes phelps look sane by comparison. this troll is so cowardly that it can’t even use the same fake name for it’s posts. what a maroon.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:26 pmok there I am. thanks.
TPisevenmoreradicallyleftthanNYT
you’re an idiot. Fred Phelps is about as left as Tim McVeigh
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:26 pmIts the demonizing machine in full swing. Get ready for the falsehoods to fly. Its election season.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:27 pmZeleney’s a really good guy and a really good reporter. I’m gonna chalk this up to a reporter’s mistake and a failure of editing. It’s ridiculous that it happens, and my opinion in no way makes the mistake less frustrating and destructive, but, again, we’re not talking Nedra Pickler or Judi Miller here…
I do find the Troll posting amusing in that, right there, is the damage this sort of meme causes. It just gives food to people who should be starving for reasons to blame this on Liberals. There’ll always be something.
Also interesting to me: The way the Bush anti-bush/war protest manual that just came out took cues from the gay activists who used similar counter-protests to block out Phelps and friends when they’d harrass families at the funerals of AIDS victims. (The “angels” who’d appear on stilts with long, flowing arms to block out the truly evil Phelps’ signs were always my favorite.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:31 pmI saw this on another thread. It seems very powerful, and it is making me rethink my position on the war….Blessings.
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Vicki Strong lost her son Marine Sgt. Jesse Strong, in Iraq fighting for our freedom. Listen to why Vicki believes Victory is America’s only choice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2rdL_WC4Zo&eurl=
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:32 pmEither very subtle and clever propaganda… or… sloppy beyond words. Either scenario is a lose-lose for the NYT.
But the biggest losers are the American people… because a democracy cannot exist without accurate and complete information being disseminated by our media.
So…We are evolving into a world of propaganda, misinformation and missing information for the profit of global Corporations and their corrupt cronnies who feed off of us, the People.
It is the terrorists within who are destroying our country right now.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:33 pmHaha, hopefully he was doing that to detract from Phelps’ real motives for protesting those funerals.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:35 pmanti-war activists= anti-war protesters all the same leftwing nutts
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:35 pmIf your morning the latest loss of life and carrying a sign that says ‘Stop the War’ you are not protesting the funeral. You are protesting the reason it had to happen.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:35 pmComment by TPisevenmoreradicallyleftthanNYT — August 22, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
Exceptionally repulsive, exceptionally stupid. This freak’s wheels are coming off.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:36 pmWhat freedom are our soldiers dying in Iraq to protect? Our freedom to fund an indefinite occupation? Our freedom to forcefully seize the natural resources of other countries? I find it highly hypocritical when people say our soldiers are protecting our freedoms, while they are actually being eroded by Bush and his crime syndicate at home.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:41 pm#
anti-war activists= anti-war protesters all the same leftwing nutts
Comment by noname1234 — August 22, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
Utterly irrational nonsense.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:41 pmThe group in question is actually a fundamental and radicalized “religious†group (this doesn’t make them right-wing because that would be a leftarded oversimplification) which doesn’t protest gays. It gloats at US servicemen’s funerals because it believes that the soldiers’ deaths are punishment for the US’ acceptance of queers.
Seems like you are contradicting yourself.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:41 pmVicki Strong lost her son Marine Sgt. Jesse Strong, in Iraq fighting for our freedom. Listen to why Vicki believes Victory is America’s only choice.
Comment by Sharon Cox — August 22, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
Take your propaganda somewhere else. Thanks.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:44 pmSeems like you are contradicting yourself.
Comment by Smoke much weed? — August 22, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
Clearly, not nearly enoug weed. Be careful… you’re trying to “reason” w/ the troll by using “logic”.
Why do “reason” and “logic” hate America so?
Freedom Fries comin’ right up! Get’em while they’re hot!
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:47 pmPervOreillly tried the same thing awhile ago and got called on that crap.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:50 pmPhelps is so far off the political spectrum I don’t think he could really be designated as a rightie, or a leftie. He is just plain crazy. Sadly the rightards want to connect him with the anti-war movement so badly they are willing to lie.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:50 pmso badly they are willing to lie.
Comment by Krazny — August 22, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
Righties??? LYING??? Nooooooo!!! It CAN’T be true!
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:52 pmIt’s really disappointing to see people using the word “Victory” as if this is some simple, black and white situation that we have in Iraq. This general misunderstanding of what is going on in Iraq will inevitably lead to more US casualties with the same result. I don’t see how you can “win” an occupation where the population does not want you there and the resistance is backed by the people and the government of the country.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:53 pmHow can “victory” be an option in Iraq when nobody has defined what it is?
And Freddy Phelps was protesting gay funerals before he started protesting military funerals. So the troll is a lying ck of $hit.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:54 pm“… the resistance is backed by the people and the government of the country.”
Comment by ben — August 22, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
You’d think, wouldn’t ya???
Ya know, from the British viewpoint, the “Founding Fathers” **cough cough** would have qualified as terrorists, as they would have to the Indians. Just pointing out what should be obvious, even to trolls.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:55 pmFurther proving this group is really on the left, the ACLU actually represents these devils in court, arguing for their “right†to continue disrupting US servicemen’ s funerals.
Comment by TPisevenmoreradicallyleftthanNYT — August 22, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
That’s the first time I have ever heard
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I usually don’t respond to trolls, but you do realize that the same argument could be used to “prove” that Rush Limbaugh is on the left as the ACLU has represented him in court (at HIS request)
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:57 pmComment by TPisevenmoreradicallyleftthanNYT — August 22, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
I think you win the award for most absurd statements in a single post today. I hardly know where to begin to respond.
Let me ask for a little clarification on some of your ravings, since some of them are truly baffling:
1) When you say “NYT unmasking just who the lowlives in the anti-war movement are”, what are you talking about? Did you think that Zeleney was correct and Obama really WAS talking about anti-war protesters disrupting funerals? Or do you mean something else?
2) “since progressives refuse to admit that anti-war activists also seriously hate US servicemen” — on what do you base this accusation? Anti-war activists aren’t anti-troops. We would like to keep as many of them alive as possible by getting them home and out of an insane conflict. We would like to protect their bodies by getting them armor they need. We would like to protect their minds by getting them the rest between deployments they need. What, exactly, are the right doing for them?
3) “The group in question…doesn’t protest gays. It gloats at US servicemen’s funerals because it believes that the soldiers’ deaths are punishment for the US’ acceptance of queers.” — and by this you are saying this group isn’t against gays, it’s just against acceptance of “queers”? Yeah — this makes sense (NOT).
4) “because this group protests and relishes the deaths of US soldiers, it more closely identifies with the American left, which does the same atrocity against US soldiers.” — why do you think we “relish” the deaths of soldiers? What evidence do you have of this? We are saddened and outraged by these deaths, and we’d like them to stop.
4) “Further proving this group is really on the left, the ACLU actually represents these devils in court” — why do you think this paints Phelps as a leftist? What it really does is debunk the myth that the ACLU is a leftist organization. The American Civil Liberties Union focuses on only one thing — protecting the civil rights of ANYONE, no matter where in the political spectrum they are. They will fight for whistleblowers fired from their jobs, and they will fight for the KKK to be given a parade permit. Civil rights is not just a “lefty” issue, you know.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:57 pmComment by Sharon Cox — August 22, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
I saw both my mother and grandmoter die of cancer. Unfortunately scientists can’t do any research on stem cells which could help cure this disease because of right wing religious conservatives.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:58 pmStem Cell research is America’s only choice.
Comment by Sharon Cox — August 22, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
Thanks for believing everything you hear and read. Are you a prospective treasoner to the U.S.? If so, get deported. Georgie and these troops care about their oil, that’s it.
Thank you and don’t come again.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:00 pmComment by TPisevenmoreradicallyleftthanNYT — August 22, 2007
I would encourage as many anti-war protests as possible at funerals just to watch you squeal.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:02 pmI think somone (Mr. P) name jacked Sharon, She wouldn’t have had a sudden 180º about this.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:07 pmI think somone (Mr. P) name jacked Sharon, She wouldn’t have had a sudden 180º about this.
Comment by Krazny
The sudden appearance of a “Sharon Cox” is highly suspect.
‘veritas’ was name jacked early this morning.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:10 pmLook, it’s talking to itself again. Weird.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:25 pm“However, because this group protests and relishes the deaths of US soldiers, it more closely identifies with the American left, which does the same atrocity against US soldiers.”
Talk about twisted logic. This one takes the cake. How anyone could equate this right-wing fringe religious group with liberals is beyond me. It’s the black is white, up is down thinking again.
BTW, asshat, please link to any article you can find that says that anti-war or liberal crowds have disrupted funerals. I dare you.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:33 pmCut from the same cloth. Semantics
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:37 pmThe thing I like is that ‘the surge is beginning to work!”
Well, gee, so it’s been a disaster up until now, but now, thanks to this brilliant new tactic, we’re starting to win!
It shore is good that George W. Bush came along and fired the guy who was running the war up until now! That old commander-in-chief should be strung up by his privates for the mess he made of the war!
Oh wait…
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:05 pmNYT
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:10 pmAll the new that fits we print.
The posts here by \”Sharon Cox\” are not her. She does not know how to post a link for starters, and the writing style is not hers either.
And we know she would not \”re-think\” her position on the war.
Nice try assburger.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:28 pmVictory in an occupation where the citizens do not want you there is called a Dictatorship.
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:19 pmJeff Zeleney should be fired. This is unacceptable poor reporting at best, unacceptable propaganda at worst, either way it is unacceptable and he should be out a job.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:42 am>The group in question is actually a fundamental
> and radicalized “religiousâ€
>group which doesn’t protest gays.
then why did they protest at the funeral of Matthew Shepard ( a homosexual killed by homophobes)?
and why is thier website called http://www.godhatesfags.com ?
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:22 amYe gods, Zelaney is so zany, referring to Fred Phelps’ Westboro Baptist Church as anti-war protesters. The same people who recorded “We Hate The World”? If they’re anti-war protesters, then Pat Buchanan’s hair is made of astro-turf. Maybe the current admin views Freddie and Friends the same way and has them under heavy surveillance.
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:21 pm