Escalation Architect Blames UK For Iraq Violence, Calls For A British Surge
Escalation Architect Blames UK For Iraq Violence, Calls For A British Surge
Yesterday, Ret. Gen. Jack Keane, who was vice chief of staff during the 2003 Iraq invasion and remains a key adviser to the Bush administration, went on BBC radio and sharply criticized the UK for planning withdrawal from Iraq. He argued that they should instead add more troops, similar to President Bush’s escalation in Baghdad.
“They have never had enough forces to truly protect the people, a mission similar to what the coalition forces are taking on in Baghdad, but I think there is a general disengagement from what the key issues are around Basra,” said Keane.
Listen to a portion of the interview here:
Keane’s comments echo those of another U.S. officer close to Gen. David Petraeus, who recently said of the British: “Quite frankly what they’re doing right now is not any value-added. … The situation there gets worse by the day. Americans are disappointed because, in their minds, this thing is still winnable. They don’t intend to cut and run.”
These statements blame the British for not reducing violence in Basra, a task that the United States has also been unable to achieve in the rest of Iraq. Another surge is not the answer. Since Bush announced his escalation plan in January, the situation in Iraq has continued to deteriorate:
– Attacks in June “reached their highest daily average since May 2003, showing a surge in violence as President George W. Bush completed a buildup of U.S. troops.”
– The “number of unidentified bodies in the capital has risen again to pre-surge levels over the last two months,” concluded a report by IraqSlogger.
– Today’s National Intelligence Estimate concludes that “the level of overall violence, including attacks on and casualties among civilians, remains high; Iraq’s sectarian groups remain unreconciled; AQI retains the ability to conduct high-profile attacks; and to date, Iraqi political leaders remain unable to govern effectively.”
It’s not surprising that Keane’s solution is another surge. He was one of the architects of Bush’s escalation plan, pushing to send 40,000 more troops to Iraq. He also blasted the Iraq Study Group’s recommendations for redeployment, giving the report an “F.” “I think it is wholly inadequate,” said Keane of the report. “It’s a cover story to accept defeat.”
Transcript:
HOST: A senior U.S. military figure is voicing frustration at the way the British army is handling the situation in southern Iraq. Gen. Jack Keane, who is retired, acts as adviser to the American commander in Iraq now, Gen. David Petraeus. Gen. Keane told the Today program that British forces seem to be less engaged.
KEANE: I think there is some frustration with the troops being out at the airport, primarily training the Iraqi 10th division, not as engaged as they had been in the past in what is taking place in central Basra and the surrounding communities.
They have never had enough forces to truly protect the people, a mission similar to what the coalition forces are taking on in Baghdad, but I think there is a general disengagement from what the key issues are around Basra.
HOST: Ret. Gen. Keane also said the situation in southern Iraq is gradually deteriorating and U.S. military commanders might have to intervene if things become worse.
KEANE: From a military perspective, I know what the commanders are trying to avoid, is having to send reinforcements to the south, from forces that are needed in the central part of Iraq, and that situation could arise if the situation gets worse, if and when the British forces leave.
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What a perfect Bushman – his first instinct is to try to find someone else to blame!
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:30 pmYeah that’s it. That bloke over there broke the vase. We were just standing here minding our own business.
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:33 pmsurge this, surge that, time for Americans to “surge” into washington and snatch all these traitors out by their double & triple chins….
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:33 pmHe who smelt it dealt it.
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:36 pmkeane is just one more coolade drinker. I love the fact that this “retired” general is now acting as a international spokes person for the US !
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:36 pmIt is getting more insane by the day. What appears to be the common thread that attaches all of the latest pattern of behavior is a thread of Fear!!!!
Idiot. Liar. What’s the difference?
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:39 pmIt’s kind of like blaming a frog for not being able to fly.
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:40 pmWill my comments start showing up if I use more insults or swear words?? What am I doing wrong that my posts are blocked?
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:40 pmBritish cannot fight along side Gung ho, raping, baby killing America troops
It looks bad for us
thats why Afghanistan has two forces
Nato and America forces
Even Nato forces cannot work with American forces who indescriminately bomb civillians
The main problem is American troops being Gung ho and wrecking everything, its seems basic training is not being taught to American troops
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:40 pmKeane this war’s Westmoreland.
He’s been wrong every step of the way; but is so terrified of Iraq becoming another Vietnam that now he’ll even smear our allies if they decide to withdraw.
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:42 pm“The Norwegian government has routinely limited foreign involvement in the oil industry, Norway’s economic backbone. That means keeping tight control over drilling concessions and holding on to 100% of national oil giant Statoil.” http://www.businessweek.com/1999/99_24/b3633240.htm
Why didn’t they follow your suggestion & hand over a slice to foreigners because they have the know-how. Was it because they’re not stupid? They don’t seemed to have suffered by taking an extra 20%.
In 2003 the combined profit for the 10 largest oil multinationals was a massive $76bn. Assuming conservatively with a much higher oil price & with Iraq’s senior status they should expect £20bn a year. Let’s see how much they make, how much the US steal & how much the Iraqi government steal.
How is it that what’s not good for the US, UK, Russia, Libya, Norway is suddenly good for Iraq. We’re taking your oil – It’s for your own good. The Iraqis heard that lie before – why should they believe it now – from the same liars & thieves?
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:45 pmKeene and GDumbya both have the same malady — all they have is a hammer so every problem looks like a nail.
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:46 pmThe oil and gas industry in Norway is state-owned and I think they’ve done pretty well for themselves (world’s 3rd largest oil and gas producer).
The Norwegian government are also trailblazers in using economic incentives to drive environmentally friendly extraction of fossil fuels.
And you say “populist dogma” has deceived people into believing that “state-managed economies are better”.
Wake up and smell the coffee. Sometimes state-managed economies are better than average, sometimes they are worse. Economics has never been an exact science
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:46 pmFinally, someone is asking the Brits to put in the required investment for the expected windfall of Oil revs. Not that I would necessarily want anything to do with any escalations or continuation, for that matter, in Iraq
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:47 pmStatoil may be seeking a merger with Hydro (another operator in Norway) but the truth remains that Norway has done very well for herself with an oil prospecting company primarily owned by the Norwegian government. That is indisputable. That’s at least ONE country that isn’t an economic disaster with majority government ownership.
What I found grating is the notion that private companies deserve a crack at Iraqi oil. They don’t.
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:48 pmComment by L. Frederick Yonas — August 23, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
Valid point. The Brits should be asked to fight in an area where History shows that we have lost numerous times before.
Oh, to be someone that does not understand History….
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:49 pmBut, but, but, I thought it was CLINTON’s fault?!?!?!
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:50 pmMore blame game?
Please forward all requests for blame to:
1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington DC.
Offer expires 01/19/09
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:52 pmRet. Gen. Jack Keane:
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:52 pmThe Iraq War began in 2003.
Good ol’ Jack just happened to retire from the Army in 2003.
A True Patriot that Jack, retires just as the War begins……
Look, a Republican general leading the mass of accomplices.
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:53 pmAs a Democrat,you know what?
I LOVE Iraq….
because its making Republicans look as dumb as they really are…
Only Republicans could destroy the republican party…. and no better way to do it than starting America’s biggest clusterf*ck war EVER
“you do it to yourself, uh huh, and thats what really hurts”
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:55 pmAnd for all the trolls who claim that liberals are using the war for political purposes, this snippet, from a NYT article about Petreaus’s coming report:
“A White House spokesman said Monday that the Capitol Hill testimony could be expected on Sept. 11 or 12.”
How’s that for cynically using the worst terrorist attack in American history for political purposes?
Again.
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:58 pmYou’d think the Brits would be able to read their history books and locate the chapter that covers the period 1920 – 1932.
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:58 pmJust sayin.
Westmoreland or Le May?
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:59 pmValid point. The Brits should be asked to fight in an area where History shows that we have lost numerous times before.
Oh, to be someone that does not understand History….
Comment by UKBristolDave — August 23, 2007 @ 1:49 pm
Really this whole mess is the Ottoman Empire’s fault.
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:59 pmYep, when all else fails, and there is no shining light at the end of the tunnel, do we take a step back and look at policies and procedures that are not working, and correct them?
Nope, we do what any normal country would do….
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:59 pmBlame Britain (or France, or Spain, or Fiji)
Comment by Borneo_dyak — August 23, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
There are countless other ways to reveal a Republican’s stupidity. Do you love innocent people dying when there are more effective, non-violent ways to expose incompetency?
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:59 pmWestmoreland or Le May?
Comment by norbizness
Westy.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:01 pmWell, Cheney caught in another lie – not that it wasn’t obvious when he said it. When the UK first announced it’s intentions to pull out of Iraq, Cheney said in 2/07
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:05 pm
When the Brits pull out, watch some lame neo Congressman proclaim a menu change to fish and freedom chips. Pfft!
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:05 pm#
When the Brits pull out, watch some lame neo Congressman proclaim a menu change to fish and freedom chips. Pfft!
Comment by Damian — August 23, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
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Thanx. That made me laugh. I have to wonder wht they will propose when Australia, Denmark, and Poland pull out?
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:10 pmAs much as I want to see the Republican leadership exposed for what they are, I am appalled that you think it is worth 4,000 plus of our American soldiers – not to mention the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.
If people will just think for themselves, we could produce the same end without all the death and destruction.
I would rather have my friends back!
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:10 pmReally this whole mess is the Ottoman Empire’s fault.
Comment by toasterhead
Im gonna go further.
The joining of the south and North America in Panama is responsible of cutting off a warm sea current that bathed the west shores of Africa. Once that current was cut off, the green region in Africa became the Savannah with fewer trees.
A particular species of ape that used the trees in order to hunt had to rely on his lower extremities to watch the landscape and freed his upper extremities in order to make more complex tasks.
We all know the story after that.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:11 pmYeah, it’s the fault of everyone else and not Bush, Cheney, Wolfiwitz and the neocons.
The true measure of ineptness is not knowing when you are a failure.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:11 pmBlame EVERYONE except; George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, George Tenet, Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz. These are of the highest moral fiber, beyond reproach. Blame Clinton, blame the Brits, blame everyone except those responsilble.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:12 pmThanks Juan, I was just reading about the conjunction of North and South America, but hadn’t considered how it might have affected Africa.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:14 pmI wandered off into a lament over saber toothed tigers…. :)
General Cracksmoker, the Brits are leaving, not surging.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:16 pmThanks Juan, I was just reading about the conjunction of North and South America, but hadn’t considered how it might have affected Africa.
I wandered off into a lament over saber toothed tigers…. :)
Comment by Raven — August 23, 2007 @ 2:14 pm
To paraphrase Mark Twain, “Often it seems a same that Noah didn’t miss the boat.”
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:16 pmHere is what’s left:
# United States: 250,000 invasion–158,000 current (6/07)
# United Kingdom: 45,000 invasion–5,500 current (5/07)
# Poland: 194 invasion–2,500 peak–900 current (2/07)
# Australia: 2,000 invasion–638 current (2/07)
# Denmark: 300 invasion–430 peak–180 current (7/07)
TOTAL CURRENT DEPLOYMENT AS OF AUGUST 2007
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:17 pm168,786 Regular Troops
~182,000 Private military contractors (118,000 Iraqi, 43,000 Other, 21,000 US)
Ret(arded) Gen. Jack-keane, Off.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:17 pmRaven:
A Short History of Nearly Everything (2003) by Bill Bryson
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:18 pm“this thing is still winnable”
I wish for once, when one of these Bushites talks about winning, they would also define exactly what winning looks like and what it consists of in Iraq. A permanent and docile U.S. colony in the middle east? Or an anti-American but stable and democratic pro-Iranian Shiite led government in Iraq? What? What does “winning” mean?
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:18 pmOh, for a landscape of mammoths and wooly rhinocerous, free of the pesky annoyance of hairless monkeys with fire sticks in their hands…
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:19 pmA Short History of Nearly Everything (2003) by Bill Bryson
Comment by Juan C
Got it thanks, I’m about ready to start Bryson’s “A Walk in the Woods”
Once upon an earlier life I hiked many miles of the Appalachian trail in northern New England.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:21 pmWhat does “winning†mean?
Comment by UpFromTheSkies
These were the same words that the German population used after Germany was defeated in the WWI.
Hitler just used the frustration of those millions of defeated little people in order to get support for his economic ambitions.
Winning is for losers. Winners dont need to win. (yeah, I made that myself. Heh)
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 pm“Winning is for losers. Winners dont need to win”
Comment by Juan C — August 23, 2007
It’s very good.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:27 pmIt’s very good.
Comment by Raven
And you are very courteous. :)
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:29 pmHe’s just annoyed that the British have come to the conclusion that there is no way to “win” an occupation and that they are no longer willing to sacrifice their soldiers to a lost cause.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:37 pmDanish military spokesman Lieutenant-Colonel Jes Rasmussen denied that the early withdrawal was due to security reasons.
“We have found a way of packing our bags more quickly than expected and the soldiers have worked hard for that,” he told TV2.
More than 250 Danish soldiers had travelled to Kuwait en route back to Denmark, it was reported. Another 150 soldiers were expected to leave Basra soon on a date that could not be given for security reasons.
Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen announced in February that Denmark would withdraw the 430 troops it has operating under British command in northern Basra in August this year.
A unit of four Danish helicopters and 55 soldiers will work alongside the British until December.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:37 pmComment by JG
I’ve noticed that using the “bold”, “italic”, etc. java buttons causes an error that prevents the successful posting of a message. Try entering the html tags manually.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:39 pmThe fault ultimately lies with Bush (and Cheney, his co-president). They opened this pandora’s box when they made the decision to invade a country that had not posed a real threat to us. I believe they knew it at the time and went in based on false evidence and riding on the politics of 9/11 in order to take control of the oil resources of that country.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:39 pmThey can’t put the responsibility of any of the consequences of that decision on anyone else. It lies with Bush. He broke it, he owns it.
Report: Denmark Pulls Out Iraq Troops Early
The battalion, stationed in the southern city of Basra since 2003, under British command, was supposed to begin pulling out its soldiers on August 10. But, according to a report by the Iraqi correspondent of the Danish TV channel TV2, sustained attacks by insurgents have led to most of them heading home early.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:39 pm“keane is just one more coolade drinker. I love the fact that this “retired†general is now acting as a international spokes person for the US !”
This “retired general” gets airtime in the MSM but retired general Batiste is ignored. I wonder why that is?
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:40 pmComment by TheToonguy — August 23, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
Thanks for that. It was getting frustrating.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:41 pm“Finally, someone is asking the Brits to put in the required investment for the expected windfall of Oil revs. Not that I would necessarily want anything to do with any escalations or continuation, for that matter, in Iraq”
That’s probably why they are withdrawing. They realize that the “oil windfall” is not going to be coming their way. Now if only the Bush administration would admit this too, we would be on our way out of Iraq tomorrow.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:42 pmDanish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen announced in February that Denmark would withdraw the 430 troops it has operating under British command in northern Basra in August this year.
A unit of four Danish helicopters and 55 soldiers will work alongside the British until December.
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 23, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
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Tobey, thank you. I have been looking for information on how soon Denmark was pulling out. Thanx.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:42 pmGeneral Jack(ass) Keane is actually Gen. Jack D. Ripper of Dr. Strangelove fame.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:44 pm55/ Chris L
Denmark Pulls Out Iraq Troops Early
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Denmark+Pulls+Out+Iraq+Troops+Early&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
I googled the results chosse one of a hundred to check
But they have left already wikipedia needs updated or perhaps it was and Bush changed it …ha
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:47 pmBut they have left already wikipedia needs updated or perhaps it was and Bush changed it …ha
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 23, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
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Thanx. I just tried to update Wikipedia, and they have made the chart sufficiently difficult to update as to discourage the effort.
Have you heard anything on Poland and its future/current plans in the MNF?
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:57 pmThe joining of the south and North America in Panama is responsible of cutting off a warm sea current that bathed the west shores of Africa. Once that current was cut off, the green region in Africa became the Savannah with fewer trees.
Comment by Juan C — August 23, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
Ugh How typical. Another “Blame Laurasia First” liberal. :rolleyes:
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:58 pmHere is what’s left:
Poland possible leaving soon because elections
Australia have mandate from their goverment to mid 2008
( although UN securtiy council mandate runs out 15th December 2007 )
Britain will leave soon I personally think although Browns not saying anything till Oct ( seeing what Bush is saying first even though all british Commanders want out NOW before any more troops die, needlesly, British troops come out only at night and have 60 mortar rounds landing everyday)
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:59 pm#54,
Admit…to who, the American people…or their overfluffed ego. At first, one would think Cowboy Diplomacy. Then it continued after Sadaam’s death. Now, you think they will admit to anything.
Just shake your and say after me: ‘Never heard of it!’ and I will furnish you with a fine Presidential medal tomorrow!
August 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 pm“What? What does “winning†mean?
Comment by UpFromTheSkies”
We have been asking that question of our resident trolls for a long time now. None of them seem to be able to answer it. It’s too bad that there is no one in the MSM with balls enough to ask George Bush that question. I would love to hear his answer.
August 23rd, 2007 at 3:03 pmwhats he wanting another “charge of the light brigade”
sorry mate were losing to many troops, everyday we have 60 mortars landing in the base our troops only come out at night and they know all the routes and were getting bombed the shit out of, we tried to control the oil in 1953 It did not work then and its not going to wash now either
Our top Commanders are saying to leave now
August 23rd, 2007 at 3:20 pmRight-wing solution for Iraq:
1) Send 500,000 troops to Iraq,
2) Kill all Iraqis,
3) Annex Iraq as the 51st state,
4) Suck all the oil from the ground.
Mission Accomplished!
August 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pm#16,
Oh, I am sure Tony Blair was aware of that piece of history. If he didn’t I am sure the QOE told him. You have to understand the Brits are a shrewd business woman as well. There are still wild stretches of uncharted property the world over belonging to the personal estate of the QOE.
The British Museum probably finally completed its Babylonia and Assyria collection by coming into a sudden windfall. During the opening days of the operation, the old Baghdad Museums were looted of its priced possessions of the old civilization.
Let’s see where they show up later. Stay tuned on that.
So, yeah, the Brits no longer need to be there. Maybe that was the initial deal and our Dear Gen. Keane is simply “out of the loop”…
August 23rd, 2007 at 3:29 pmBlame the troops.
Blame the generals.
Blame Maliki.
Blame the Brits.
Blame anyone and everyone.
Just don’t accept responsibility. That’s the Republican motto.
August 23rd, 2007 at 3:34 pmBring the TROOPS home!
Bring the GENERALS home!
Forget MALIKI!
Forget the BRITS!
Consequently, no need to WORRY about ANYONE else!
Resolved!
August 23rd, 2007 at 3:48 pmDanish are ditching due to insurgent fighting? I think you need to check your sources. Don’t fear, the French are coming….
August 23rd, 2007 at 3:56 pmYea, its the Brit’s fault.
Hell anybody’s fault but ours.
August 23rd, 2007 at 4:06 pmHey dumb ass didn’t you get the memo they are leaving. The people have told their elected officials that no more British lives are worth Bush’s illegal war.
August 23rd, 2007 at 4:24 pmGeneral you are a moron.
You are not fighting to win… if you were there would be bombers laying waste to this country. You are OCCUPYING them not trying to win… loser.
August 23rd, 2007 at 4:53 pmBasra for a long time was the model cited because of its relative calm so it is rather big of Gen Keane to now lambast the British for declaring mission accomplished.
August 23rd, 2007 at 5:09 pmHey Bush – Cheney – the honeymoon with Britian is over now that Tony Blair is gone……
August 23rd, 2007 at 5:20 pmKeane’s comments echo those of another U.S. officer close to Gen. David Petraeus, who recently said of the British: “Quite frankly what they’re doing right now is not any value-added. … The situation there gets worse by the day. Americans are disappointed because, in their minds, this thing is still winnable. They don’t intend to cut and run.â€
vs
UPDATE: From the Washington Post, 5/15/04:
Secretary of State Colin Powell emphatically said yesterday that if the incoming Iraqi interim government ordered the departure of foreign troops after June 30, they would pack up without protest, but emphasized he doubted such a request would be made.
… “If the provisional government asks us to leave, we will leave,†Bremer said, referring to an Iraqi administration due to take power June 30. “I don’t think that will happen, but obviously we don’t stay in countries where we’re not welcome.â€
and
President Bush said in an interview on Thursday that he would withdraw American forces from Iraq if the new government that is elected on Sunday asked him to do so, but that he expected Iraq’s first democratically elected leaders would want the troops to remain as helpers, not as occupiers.
Heh heh.
August 23rd, 2007 at 5:33 pmYeah, now its the Limeys fault. It’s Maliki’s fault, it’s Iran’s fault, it’s Clinton’s fault, it’s Chamberlain’s fault, it’s Lindsay Lohan’s fault… The whitey righties will blame anyone and everyone but themselves and the moron. Clock’s ticking… 14 months.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:01 pmLOL
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:03 pmMAYBE Tony Blair will LEAD THE SURGE!
And Bush and Cheney, TOO!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:27 pm# 76
Shut up, you liberal.
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:38 pmCould these guys be any more pathetic? Any more irresponsibly juvenile? Is that possible?? Can anyone probe the deepest darkest chasms of their imagination and imagine how these ReTards could be any more ReTarded?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:03 amKeane is contradicting Cheney and Rice who at the time Blair announced that British troop withdrawal said that it was a sign of success. The problem is an inability to admit how truly flawed this policy is. There is no way to win a civil war. We couldn’t win it in Vietnam and Iraq is also a quagmire.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:51 amKeane is wrong. The American people think this war is a quagmire. Clearly some in the military have not learned the lessons of Vietnam. The American people want to get out of Iraq. Yet Keane is unable to see reality. Americans don’t support Bush or his war. He is the reason we are losing in Iraq.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:53 am>Keane is contradicting Cheney and Rice who at
>the time Blair announced that British troop
>withdrawal said that it was a sign of success.
the right cloven hoof doesnt know what the left cloven hoof is doing!
August 24th, 2007 at 3:10 amHOPEFULLY, the Brits will just send him home – make sure that ALL ports-of-entry into their country have his picture and know that he WILL NEVER GET IN AGAIN!
Is he a fulltime FOX employee yet??
What morons…..
August 24th, 2007 at 10:40 amWhat a jerk. I wonder how he feels today after 3 UK troops were blown up in Afganistan by “Friendly Fire”.
August 24th, 2007 at 10:40 am