Family loses second son in Iraq due to Blackhawk crash.
Family loses second son in Iraq due to Blackhawk crash.
The downing of a Blackhawk helicopter in Iraq this week that killed 14 U.S. soldiers was especially devastating for the Hubbard family. The death of Spc. Nathan Hubbard, 21, “was the second tragedy for his family, who lost another son to the war three years ago, family friends said.”
Hubbard’s family was taking his death “very, very hard,” said Clovis police spokeswoman Janet Stoll-Lee, who spoke on behalf of the Hubbards. The soldier’s father, Jeff Hubbard, is a retired 30-year veteran of the police department.
The Hubbards lost Nathan’s older brother, Marine Lance Cpl. Jared Hubbard, to a roadside bomb in downtown Ramadi in 2004. A third brother, Jason, will be returning home from Iraq to be with his family, Stoll-Lee said.
USA Today offers more details on some of the other soldiers.
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August 23rd, 2007 at 11:02 pmYou are a piece of excrement. I can only hope that by the law of averages, or the hand of god – if that’s how you believe – you get what’s coming to you.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:07 pmThe progressives here despise this dead soldier, unfortunately. This is a fact beyond the shadow of a doubt. While progressives will lie through their teeth that they “care” about US soldiers in Iraq–which they impotently try to show by overriding Bush’s CiC role and bringing them home before their mission is finished successfully–they really don’t. Their ideology and policy positions really implicate progressives as cursing US soldiers. In fact, I’m betting that many Toilet Paper hate-site readers think Nathan Hubbard deserved to die and is burning in hell (progs only acknowledge a hell when they hope that US soldiers are burning in it). Here is proof that libs hate US soldiers: Obama accuses US soldiers of bombing civilian villages in Afghanistan; Murtha publicly condemned US soldiers for committing “atrocities” in Iraq; and John Kerry charged that US soldiers were “terrorizing” Iraqi women and children. The progressives here feel the same way.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:07 pmI can only hope that by the law of averages, or the hand of god – if that’s how you believe – you get what’s coming to you.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
Dont you worry. Universe is known for its sense of irony.
Karma is a b*tch.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:12 pmMy codolences to the family. I’m glad the third son will soon be out of harms way.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:13 pmYou trolls should willingly shoulder much of the blame for this tragedy.
MrParagraphofNonsensicalRanting really doesn’t have much to say.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:14 pmWhat a horrible thing to post in a political forum. The libs want to use this death to support their anti-war agenda, causing pain to the man’s family. I pray for this man’s family.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:15 pmHow dare you speak for this Marine or to tell anyone here what they think, you vile piece of crap. You are a coward of the first order, hiding behind a computer terminal to make your wiseass cracks. I suggest you confront a progressive – any progressive – in person and make the same statement to them. Before you do, I suggest that you get a magic marker and number your teeth so that you’ll know where each one goes when you have them put back in your mouth. You coward.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:17 pmI pray for this man’s family.
Comment by Johnny Sausage
Hmmm….sausage prayers. Smells like roasted flesh.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:18 pmI suggest that you get a magic marker and number your teeth so that you’ll know where each one goes when you have them put back in your mouth. You coward.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
Empty threat, from an empty liberal.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:18 pmIf our anti-war agenda had been followed, this young man would be alive right now. You are a cowardly right-wing pussy.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:19 pmSmells like roasted flesh.
Comment by dlet
Here’s another lib who “supports” the troops. How dare you refer to that soldier like this.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:20 pmComment by ProgressiveswillspitongraveofMarine
Response by: RepublicansaretheonesthatputtheMarineinthegrave
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:20 pmYou’re a pussy.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:20 pmIf our anti-war agenda had been followed, this young man would be alive right now. You are a cowardly right-wing pussy.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
You’re a tough guy from behind a computer. I just reported you to TP for abusive remarks.
Most Dems voted for the Iraqi war.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:21 pmYou’re a pussy.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
5th grade name calling. It’s all you’re capable of.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:22 pmWhat a horrible thing to post in a political forum. The libs want to use this death to support their anti-war agenda, causing pain to the man’s family. I pray for this man’s family.
Comment by Johnny Sausage — August 23, 2007 @ 11:15 pm
IF this man’s family is here it’s because they are against the war. And WE are the ones who wanted the war ended and this young soldier home safely. One dead soldier is too many for a war fought for oil revenues of the rich. You are the scum here pushing your political agenda on a progressive site and using the death of a soldier to make your sick point.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:22 pmMarcus,
Exactly what makes him a coward?
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:23 pmSmells like roasted flesh.
Comment by dlet
Here’s another lib who “supports†the troops. How dare you refer to that soldier like this.
Comment by Johnny Sausage — August 23, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
He was talking to you sausagebreath, god you people are stupid.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:24 pmMy condolences to the family. I can’t even imagine their pain.
Support the Troops — Bring Them Home Now.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:25 pmThere is nothing progressive about supporting defeat and surrender in Iraq.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:26 pm#4, obviously you are a very angry person of very limited intellectual capacity. You make a wonderful cowardly sheep, right along the rest in your party and your president, the worst in the history of this country.
You probably took quite a long time to write that post, unfortunately it is full of lies and other right-wing talking points.
It’s really a shame that you and your ilk are such cowards. Typical Archie Bunker types, waving flags and hiding under your bed every time someone shouts “terrorist.” Dude, they’ve beaten you! HA!
You don’t know the first thing about patriotism but I bet you have all of Rush’s books. You wouldn’t know true freedom if it bit your ass. I’d love to hear your views on the constitution, the founding fathers, the system of checks and balances and maybe even the concept of liberty, unfortunately you’ve proven in one post that you know nothing about any of these things.
It’s really sad that you come here to attack REAL Americans who care enough about this country to want to see it live on.
“The progressives here despise this dead soldier…” Dignifying this asinine statement with an answer would be almost as disrespectful as you are.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:26 pmCan we please not respond to the bloodthirsty trolls on this type of thread? Let THEM be the sick f*cks.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:26 pmIt is just sad that people here think there is value in throwing garbage over the memory of this person and the pain of his family. What do you expect to gain from you anonymous slanders?
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:26 pmHe was talking to you sausagebreath, god you people are stupid.
Comment by shane
No.
He was referring to the dead soldier as smelling like roasted flesh. It’s sick and I reported him to TP.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:27 pmNo one has a right to mock any of our honorable soldiers who dies for this country. Doesn’t matter what you think of the war, Bush, the right or the left or the center.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:27 pmSupport the Troops — Bring Them Home Now.
Comment by Zooey
You’re using their deaths to promote your narrow viewpoint.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:28 pmSupport the troops, not the mission. The failed war-of-choice mission is what got this young man killed and brought a terrible tragedy upon a family. Those who continue to support the ego-driven mission of a fool like Bush are the ones who oppose the troops. They are simply putting their desire for Bush and his twisted ideology to succeed ahead of the lives of young men like Nathan Hubbard. You simply cannot support the troops by supporting a mission based upon lie-after-lie, deceit, and distortion by Bush and his ilk. In fact, the more this mission of deceit is supported, the less the troops are being supported. They are the ones paying the ultimate price for Bush’s lies.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:29 pmExactly what makes him a coward?
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:23 pm
Cowards are people like you who dance on the graves of dead soldiers. People like you who pretend to be the criminal officer that ordered the code red on his own man. You probably laugh at the death of Pat Tillman too, don’t you?
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:29 pmTime to get out of Iraq.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:29 pmyour president, the worst in the history of this country.
Comment by thoughtcriminal
Jimmy Carter is probably the worst in history.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:29 pmNo more death.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:29 pmNo more death for the politicians and ruling class.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:30 pmNo more death for Mr. P.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:32 pmShane,
Actually I have served in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don’t dance on anyone’s grave. I’m just trying to understand why people use the arguement that if you support the war then you should enlist, and if not you are a coward. By that reasoning, if you are against deforestation, you should spend your whole life chained to a tree.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:33 pmDamn, that sucks. Those helicopters can be dangerous I guess.
Comment by Makarios
My condolences to the families.
Sand is hard on Helicopters Makarios.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:33 pmtest
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:34 pmI believe we can blame a sand storm on why those copters crashed during the Iranian Hostage crisis.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:35 pmRudy Giuliani is going to be the next president of the united states! I would like to reach out to progressives here who would like to support his run.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:38 pmHiding behind a blog.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:39 pmbelieve we can blame a sand storm on why those copters crashed during the Iranian Hostage crisis.
Comment by ForTruth
Yes, that and a lack of parts to repair them correctly as is probably the case in Iraq today.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:40 pmHere is proof that libs hate US soldiers: Obama accuses US soldiers of bombing civilian villages in Afghanistan;
Comment by ProgressiveswillspitongraveofMarine #4
Please provide proof…
…that he said it…
…(and if he did)…
…that he’s lying…
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:40 pmthose “copters crashed during the hostage crisis” because Carter was given WRONG information by his military commanders so that they could discredit him and get their war-monger buddy Reagan into office. Theres a whole history of this country that you should really learn about.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:40 pmBy that reasoning, if you are against deforestation, you should spend your whole life chained to a tree.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
Any proof you really served? The trolls that come here have ben known to, uh, make up stuff like crazy.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 pmMarcus,
Then you can accuse everyone of being a coward on here.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 pmThoughtcriminal,
You are out to lunch dude.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:42 pm“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else”
- Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:42 pmThen you can accuse everyone of being a coward on here.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
How so?
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:43 pmRepublic,
I was with the 82nd Airborne both times, Afghanistan in 2003, Iraq 2003-2004. Short of posting my records on here, that’s about the best I can do for ya.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:43 pmActually I have served in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don’t dance on anyone’s grave. I’m just trying to understand why people use the arguement that if you support the war then you should enlist, and if not you are a coward. By that reasoning, if you are against deforestation, you should spend your whole life chained to a tree.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
I believe if you are young, and believe in the war you should go fight it. And by that reasoning if you are against deforestation you don’t chop down trees, you plant them. I don’t know how your reasoning works but I doubt that is your real name and most posters who have served in the military believe that the war mongers here, who are in their twenties but don’t serve, should serve.
Since you are not using your real name why would you take the name of an officer who had his own soldier killed. You are no Jack Nicholson.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:44 pmRepublic,
You can accuse everyone of being a coward, because we are all blogging. If one person is “hiding” behind a blog, we all are. There’s no way to tell the difference.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:44 pmShort of posting my records on here, that’s about the best I can do for ya.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
We have a Ranger that comes here to post. maybe you’ll be lucky enough to cross paths w/ him. It’s easy to say you served and not offer up concrete proof.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 pmWhat exactly is a “chickenhawk”? According to The New Hampshire Gazette, “a “chickenhawk” has three qualities: bellicosity (a warlike manner or temperament), public prominence, and a curious lack of wartime service when others their age had no trouble finding the fight
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 pmkernel, maybe do a little research, “dude”. start with iran-contra, admiral john poindexter, ollie north, etc.. work your way back.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 pmThere’s no way to tell the difference.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:44 pm
I don’t agree w/ you.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:46 pmYou can accuse everyone of being a coward, because we are all blogging. If one person is “hiding†behind a blog, we all are. There’s no way to tell the difference.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:44 pm
So you believe it is appropriate for an officer to order a code red on one of his men?
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:48 pmShane,
No I am no Jack Nicholson, but Col. Jessep is a great character cause he doesn’t stand for people who have no idea what it means to do his job, try and tell him how to do it.
As for my reasoning, I believe you can support a cause and not be at the forefront of that cause. IE, you can support a nation at war and not fight.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 pmSomething I posted at the end of an earlier thread. I hope its not too repetitive. Forgive me if it is. I just want everyone to call!
I want to get everyones attention attention for this one! Its quite fun!
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 pmThere is an organization, freedom.org, which has a toll free number, 877-222-8001, who’s purpose is to connect constituents with their members of congress to urge them to “stay the course†in Iraq (probably not many “real†calls).
My friends and I had a great time with the call in line at happy hour today!
When you call there is a whole diatribe about how if the US leaves Iraq the terrorists will “follow us homeâ€! When the operator gets on the line he/she asks do you agree that if the US “cuts and runs†from Iraq that the terrorists will follow us home.
I said sure, I believe that is the case.
I was then transfered to my representative, Jim Wash (r) NY. When the staffer answered the phone I explained that I was transferred by freedom.org and that they were concerned that the terrorists would follow us home if we “cut and run†from Iraq. I told him that I absolutely thought it true because I had a “terrorist†under my bed at the very moment and asked what I should do to get rid of him!
I urge everyone to have a bit of fun with this one, jamming the switchboard, and making them see the ridiculousness of their assumption!
Some of my friends asked how they could get the terrorist out of his trunk, out of the dishwasher etc…
Have fun! Jam the switch boards!
Shane,
It was a movie, let’s move on.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 pmWhy did the family allow all 3 of their sons to go to Iraq? How come NONE of Romney’s 5 sons are NOT in Iraq?
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:50 pmIt was a movie, let’s move on.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
I get this feeling Shane nailed ya.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:52 pmThoughtcriminal,
All I know is the Army trained the unit which eventually became Delta for two years for just such a mission as the Iranian Hostage Crisis. I highly doubt those leaders on the ground that night would have given false ino and endangered the lives of their men, in the off chance Reagan MIGHT get elected.
That;s where I think you are out to lunch.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:52 pmComment by Richard Cowen — August 23, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
Hey Dick, you’re showing some real class posting that on this thread. Pull your head out, ok?
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:53 pmIt was a movie, let’s move on.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
And the topic is the death of soldiers. And you are using the name of a character that ordered the death of one of his men. Since the death of Pat Tillman and the ensuing coverup, I don’t find it very amusing.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:54 pmHow so Republic?
Do I believe in fratricide? Of course not. He’s using a movie to make his point. Why not using something real?
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:54 pmAs for my reasoning, I believe you can support a cause and not be at the forefront of that cause. IE, you can support a nation at war and not fight. -Col Jessep
Well, you would have to stick around a while to find out that we have some particularily heinous folks that come here talking about how torture is a good thing, and how all muslims should be killed etc. etc. Thats who the coward remarks are directed to Col. Jessep they go far beyond just supporting America.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:54 pmyou can support a nation at war and not fight.
Comment by Col. Jessep #49
…now THAT’S definitely…
…cowardice…
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 pmComment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
Hey “Col,”
When are you going to offer your condolences to this young man’s family?
Trolls usually out themselves by their lack of empathy.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 pmShane,
Since you keep brining up A Few Good Men, if you remember, they never intended to kill him in that code red. He died of a heart condition bought on by the stress of the incident and sock in his mouth. Go rent it!
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 pmBig papa,
So my 93 year old grandma is a coward cause she supports me and doesn’t fight? Nice
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:58 pmOperation Eagle Claw, ColJ. google it.
It was some of the worst military advice ever given, but Carter trusted the generals who planned it. They TRICKED him into agreeing to it though they knew it would fail. They USED soldiers to further political gains, just like they’re doing now, get it?? There was much more evidence in the 70s but it was covered up by the same traitorous scum that filled body bags with cocaine and shipped them to America and then funneled the cash to the Ayatollah. Iran held the hostages until the day Reagan took over, do you think Iran was scared of Ronnie and that’s why they released them? No, it was because they’d been greased by criminals like ollie north and john poindexter. Do some freaking research before you come here and start trying to prove your intellect on matters you obviously have no clue about. I appreciate your career choices and the political ramifications that must be considered in such a field, but this is America we’re talking about, a great country that is on a very, very horrible path.
Just because we don’t support illegal, immoral wars does NOT mean that we love our sons and daughters any less that you.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:59 pmSince the death of Pat Tillman and the ensuing coverup, I don’t find it very amusing.
Comment by shane — August 23, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
I agree w/ you, Shane. Considering the topic of the thread and the choice of the name, it’s hard to believe that’s not meant to be provocative.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:59 pmZooey,
If I thought the family would read this I would. Trust me, I feel for this family. I have been to military funerals before. I have presented a folded American Flag to families.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:59 pmNice
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:58 pm
“Colonel”, I suspect you’re a fraud.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:00 amThat;s where I think you are out to lunch.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
It seems unlikely that Pat Tillman would be killed by friendly fire and then the military would allow the administration to lie to his family but it happened. Supposedly. Of course we’ll never know exactly what happened with the President claiming executive privilege on this subject. But we’re still waiting for one of Pat Tillmans fellow soldiers to come forward and tell us exactly what happened. If they won’t come forward, what makes you think anybody involved in those earlier blackhawk crashes would. George Bush Sr. was the man behind the curtain then as he is now.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:00 amHe died of a heart condition bought on by the stress of the incident and sock in his mouth. Go rent it!
Comment by Col. Jessep
Because Jessep ordered those men to put that sock with some chemical substance in his mouth. Thats called murder.
And, on topic, if you think this conflict in Iraq is a fight for survival and you dont enlist, then yeah, it is cowardice not to fight it.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:02 amComment by Col. Jessep
And you post from your Mother’s basement, with Glen Beck.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:02 amSo my 93 year old grandma is a coward cause she supports me and doesn’t fight? Nice
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:58 pm
You’re being deliberately obtuse, Colonel. These punks who post on TP are actively calling for the deaths of all Muslims, oppose any redeployment, and brag about being college students, or having a family as a reason why they shouldn’t serve.
That’s sick. You’re grandmother has nothing to do with it, and you know it.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:02 amMy condolences to the family coping with yet another loss.
President Bush’s recent remarks before the Veterans’ of Foreign Wars Group caused a few to raise their eyebrows. The President drew some parallels between the current situation in Iraq and the Vietnam War.
It’s not surprising that reactions to the comparison were mixed. There are those who agree with the President and those who don’t.
What a great opportunity this dialog affords us to look back. Fortunately, the Vietnam War was well-chronicled. We have primary sources. To be sure some could be called biased, a good adjective if you happen to disagree. But through these sources, we still may arrive at personal conclusions today.
I looked into some sources concurrent with the war in Vietnam, and I present for your consideration– Vietnam or Iraq?
I present this as a question, not a conclusion. Discerning viewers must decide for themselves. Whether one agrees with the President or not, a national dialog about our history as a nation is a good thing.
http://www.massachusettsobserver.com/Vietnam_or_Iraq.htm
If you have any viewing problems, just download one of the plugins linked to on the page.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:02 amRepublic,
Your right I’m not a real Colonel. If you had been paying attention you would know it’s already been established I took the name from jack Nicholson’s character in A Few Good Men.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:03 amJuan,
It’s a volunteer military and I respect that. Many of my friends have not enlisted and I have no problem with that.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:04 amSince you keep brining up A Few Good Men, if you remember, they never intended to kill him in that code red. He died of a heart condition bought on by the stress of the incident and sock in his mouth. Go rent it!
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:56 pm
I own it. That didn’t make him any less dead, did it. Your compassion for dead troops is underwhelming. I’m having trouble believing you actually served.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:04 amHi Frank.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:05 amZooey,
Your right, but I am tired of the arguement that your a coward if you support the war and not fight. It’s a weak arguement.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:06 amAs for my reasoning, I believe you can support a cause and not be at the forefront of that cause. IE, you can support a nation at war and not fight.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
So you can send other people off to die without ever having the conviction to put your own life at risk?
It’s the classic chickenhawk and this administration and the Republican party has chickenhawks coming out their ears already. Virtually all of the neocons are chickenhawks because, after all, they’re the elite smart people and elite smart people don’t risk their lives. That’s what cannon fodder is for.
We have a significant number of keyboard commandos here, as well, people like Mr Pee who claims to be 24 years of age and is rabid to send “Islamofacists” to paradise but somehow never managed to get his butt down to the recruiting office. Better to let the cannon fodder take care of his obsession.
I’ve been listening to this crap since the 60s and the same people who eagerly used deferments to avoid service while calling us Dirty F&cking Hippies for opposing the Vietnam War have provided the core for today’s Republicans. Y’all sicken me.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:06 amExactly. And well said.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:07 amSo my 93 year old grandma is a coward cause she supports me and doesn’t fight? Nice
Comment by Col. Jessep #62
key phrase…
…(grandma) supports “YOU”…
…implying…
…an unconditional support for, love for and devotion to…
…YOU…
QUESTIONS:
“Do YOU believe that YOUR western civilization/way of life is threatened by these “terrorists?”
and if so…
…”shouldn’t YOU be defending it PHYSICALLY?”
August 24th, 2007 at 12:08 amComment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
Thanks for managing to squeak out a few words of condolence. You don’t know the family won’t read this. I really hope they don’t.
Do you support this war? You’re using a false name and rank, don’t pull the “I’m not allowed to criticize the CIC” crap.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:09 amShane,
SPC Marshall L. Egerton KIA Dec 11, 2003 Ramadi, Iraq 82nd Signal BN, 82nd Airborne. Car Bomb exploded on our base. He was INSIDE it. I was there. All the windows in the buildign I worked in were completely blown out. i’m still amazed to this day I ddin’t get it with flying glass.
Don’t question whether I served!
August 24th, 2007 at 12:09 amI took the name from jack Nicholson’s character in A Few Good Men.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:03 am
And why are you afraid to use your own name?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:11 amHe’s a neocon posting inflammatory comments under a pseudonym on a progressive site. He’s an instigator, and he’s a coward. Neocons are afraid of everything, especially military service. They are by nature, cowardly.
So, why are you here?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:14 amT e s t
August 24th, 2007 at 12:15 amThe progressives here despise this dead soldier, unfortunately. This is a fact beyond the shadow of a doubt.
Comment by ProgressiveswillspitongraveofMarine
Yeah, and you’re an equally wonderful human being for politicizing such a matter.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:16 amYour right I’m not a real Colonel. If you had been paying attention you would know it’s already been established I took the name from jack Nicholson’s character in A Few Good Men.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:03 am
Lied about your name, lied about your rank, and have the confrontational attitude of a neocon troll. What are we to believe.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:19 amT e s t Comment by Makarios
got nulled again my little submissive lemming?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:19 amThis is a fact beyond the shadow of a doubt.
Comment by ProgressiveswillspitongraveofMarine
Its your obscene opinion, it is not a truth, it is not a fact, and you cannot ever prove it to be one.
Now, get a new game, this Coulteresque idiocy is older than corprolite.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:21 amZooey,
Yes I support this war. 5 or 10 years down the road I might look back and feel different. But for right now I support it for better or for worse. I might find myself there again someday, and I would probably not but able to function as a soldier if I thought it was all for nothing.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:22 amComment by gummitch — August 24, 2007 @ 12:06 am
Exactly. And well said.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 24, 2007 @ 12:07 am
A(f*cking)men to you both.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:23 amShane,
Why are so worried about the name I am posting under? I doubt that is the real Marcus Aurelius posting tonight. Is you name really Shane?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:24 amYes I support this war. 5 or 10 years down the road. Comment by Col. Jessep
George Bush said while debating Al Gore that our troops should not be used for nation building. Do you agree?
And as I recall Col. this was never declared a war. It is the result of a UN/US resolution to use force. It is, in effect, a police action. It was sold to the American people as a freedom operation.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:25 amT e s t
Comment by Makarios — August 24, 2007 @ 12:15 am
Awe, did da widdle baby get banned, again?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:25 amIf you had been paying attention you would know it’s already been established I took the name from jack Nicholson’s character in A Few Good Men.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:03 am
Hijacking names from movies is a favorite of trolls. I’ve never seen “A Few Good men”. Paying attention? Stick a sock in it. You’re a phony. YOU’VE ALREADY ADMITTED THAT!!! Do you really think anyone here is going to believe anything you say?
GO!!! AWAY!!!
August 24th, 2007 at 12:26 amAwe, did da widdle baby get banned, again?
Comment by shane — August 24, 2007 @ 12:25 am
It was probably that **Squirt Squirt** routine. Say, didn’t he direct that comment at you, Shane? maybe we should ask him what he meant. Let’s hear the explanation right from Makarios’ mouth.
Speak up, m’boy!
August 24th, 2007 at 12:29 amthis Coulteresque idiocy is older than corprolite.
Comment by Frank Burns — August 24, 2007 @ 12:21 am
Love the reference, many of the trolls DO resemble dinosaur dung but they smell much worse.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:29 amWeak argument for support of the war. Self-delusion, especially by someone capable of thoughtful analysis, is intellectual dishonesty. In 5 or 10 years, you will know that the war and the deaths on both sides was for nothing – because you already know it. Facts are – this war is based on lies, for reasons other than those stated by the business interests that started it. There are no natrional interests being served. There is no patriotic goal. There is no political goal. You can’t have “victory”, because you can’t define what “victory” means. I’m sorry you’re in the position you are.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:30 amFrank,
To an extent, troops serve a purpose in nation building. Mostly in building and training military, police force, security force areas. I do wish we had more help from other department in the government. Justice Department to help with the cour system etc. Not sure we are best suited for that even though we do have similar departments in the military.
Ya it’s not offically a WAR, but I still call it that and will continue to do so. Sorry.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:30 amWhy are so worried about the name I am posting under? I doubt that is the real Marcus Aurelius posting tonight. Is you name really Shane?
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:24 am
Yes it is. And I would proudly refuse to serve this President in this war.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:30 am….I would probably not but able to function as a soldier if I thought it was all for nothing.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:22 am
Thanks for your honesty, Mr whatever your rank is.
This was is for nothing. I hope you survive your next trip over there.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:31 amDo you really think anyone here is going to believe anything you say?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
…don’t forget ROS…
…you’re corresponding with someone…
…who “BELIEVES” in Bushiva and L’il Dick’s war…
August 24th, 2007 at 12:32 amDon’t doubt who I am and what I did!
Isn’t that your shtick?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:34 amSpeak up, m’boy!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 24, 2007 @ 12:29 am
And then he referenced my husband. Now that ticked me off. But I don’t get mad, I get even. Everytime he posts something to me distasteful like that I copy it and send it to the administrators. So we can all enjoy it. Could be why the twerp is having trouble posting since he was quite off color on a previous thread.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:34 amMarcus,
In 5 to 10 years we will have a much better idea if Iraq will be a success or not. That’s why I might feel differently then.
I define victory as standing up a government and military force capble of serving the needs of the people of Iraq and denying uninhabited areas as training/staging areas for terrorists.
Also restoring the civil infrastructure and being able to provide basic services to the people.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:34 amCould be why the twerp is having trouble posting since he was quite off color on a previous thread.
Comment by shane — August 24, 2007 @ 12:34 am
Excellent!!! Cyber High-five!
August 24th, 2007 at 12:35 amExcellent!!! Cyber High-five!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 24, 2007 @ 12:35 am
Delicious, isn’t it?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:36 amAlso restoring the civil infrastructure and being able to provide basic services to the people.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:34 am
Gee, that’ll only take ten, fifteen years and trillions of dollars. This country will be bankrupt by then.
Hey, “restoring the civil infrastructure and being able to provide basic services to the people” – why aren’t we doing that here?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:37 amDelicious, isn’t it?
Comment by shane — August 24, 2007 @ 12:36 am
Yeeeeaahh…. sweeeeet….
August 24th, 2007 at 12:38 amAlthough I constantly encourage people not to encourage the trolls by responding to their pointless distractions, I want to commend Marcus Aurelius for their comment at #9.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:38 amI define victory as standing up a government and military force capble of serving the needs of the people of Iraq and denying uninhabited areas as training/staging areas for terrorists.
Also restoring the civil infrastructure and being able to provide basic services to the people.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:34 am
You do understand that there were no terrorists in Iraq before our occupation don’t you. In addition, the infrastructure was perfectly sound before we got there.
Maybe you can answer, what exactly are the 100,000 Blackwater personnel doing there.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:39 amRepublic,
Over the past 6 months a number of countries have written off most of not all of the debt that Iraq owed them as well as providing aid and loans to help rebuild, so we not in this alone.
As for why we aren’t doing that here, I can’t answer that. I don’t know. Will we ever solve all teh problems this country has domesticly? I hope so, but probably not.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:42 amI want to commend Marcus Aurelius for their comment at #9.
Comment by sponson — August 24, 2007 @ 12:38 am
Agreed, Sponson, but 2 points. One, Marcus assumed the troll could count. Two, he assumed the troll still had some teeth left. Outside of that, it was indeed an excellent post.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:43 amAwe, did da widdle baby get banned, again?
Comment by shane — August 24, 2007 @ 12:25 am
Nah. Just testing the water.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:43 amMarcus,
In 5 to 10 years we will have a much better idea if Iraq will be a success or not. That’s why I might feel differently then.
I define victory as standing up a government and military force capble of serving the needs of the people of Iraq and denying uninhabited areas as training/staging areas for terrorists.
Not gonna happen, and you know it. An occupying army can’t “win the hearts and minds” of the occupied population. Never happened in the history of the world, and never will.
Also restoring the civil infrastructure and being able to provide basic services to the people.
You think the military is going to do that? Have they been feeding you drugs? That’s Halliburton’s job to pretend to be doing. You aren’t there for an altruistic purpose – you’re there so that the BA puts up a good front – and each soldier who dies makes it more difficult to leave (we stepped dead into it, and the only thing we can do now id to step more deeply into it. Bad logic). Do not delude yourself. Do you actually think that our Armed forces are providing “basic services” to the people of Iraq? Don’t. Delude. Yourself. It’s dishonest.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:44 amComment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:34 am
Comment by Col. Jessep #103
…How are you planning on PAYING for all of this benevolence…
…especially when you run with the “I HATE taxes crowd”?…
August 24th, 2007 at 12:44 amThank you.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:47 amShane,
I disagree with the asertion that there were no terrorists in Iraq prior to our arrival. I believe there was.
Ask the Shitte’s how they liked their infrastructure after Saddam damed the Tigres and darned all the swamps in the south.
I haven’t interacted with Blackwater personnel so I’m not sure what they, I would only be speculating
August 24th, 2007 at 12:47 amdomesticly?
Comment by Col. Jessep #113
“An Army of ONE”…
…’er more like…
“An Army of Dumb!”
August 24th, 2007 at 12:47 amI think this is the next wave in troll technology here, folks – “The Reasonable Troll”.
We’ve had an endless supply of Mr. Ps. We’ve had the concern trolls. And now we have the “friendly, reasonable, experienced troll”, here to gently explain why George and the GOOPers are right ,and we’re wrong fron not supporting the war.
The “Colonel” has already admitted he lied. Is there really any point in talking w/ him, or her, as the case may be?
Two movie Colonels in one night? Where’s Colonel Klink? Colonel Blimp? Colonel Colonel?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:47 amI didn’t leave the building, son. I was just paying your mamma a visit.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:48 amNot gonna happen, and you know it. An occupying army can’t “win the hearts and minds†of the occupied population. Never happened in the history of the world, and never will.
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That isn’t necessary. The Iraqis have to maintain the gov’t and military force eventually.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:49 amThere is a real Col. Jessep. I found records. Whether he is the same person who is in our thread or not is immaterial. Service in Iraq was in the records.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:50 amMarcus Aurelius – actual dead Roman Emperor
No… really?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:50 amI would only be speculating
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:47 am
Troll’s batteries seem to be running down. Grammar and spelling goin’ to hell.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:50 amMarcus,
We may not have to win the hearts and minds totally. We might just have to present ourselves as the leser of two evils. It’s already startign to happen in Western Iraq. Tribes are standing up for themselves against AQ. They are asking us and teh Iraq government for help. You should haev watched the Daily SHow tonight. Great interview with an Army officer who served there in the past and talked about what is happening now.
We are restoring infrastructure. The Army Corp of Engineers has projects all over the country.
And they Army tests regularly for drugs so no I’m not on them.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:52 am“Eventually,” like when they sign their oil over to us? How about yesterday?
Dude, I thought you got banned. Don’t make me whup your sexually deviant little ass again.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:52 amThe polite, patient, almost paternalistic tone, gently pushing the pro-war viewpoint.
SHILL!!!!
August 24th, 2007 at 12:53 amThose helicopters can be dangerous I guess.
Comment by Makarios — August 23, 2007 @ 11:00 pm
Yes, a coward like you would have to “guess”, but it’s alright, we know how much the right hates the troops. There’s another for your belt.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:54 amMarcus,
Even the Dems know that Iraq is not a lost cause. It’s just you far left fringe moonbats that have the doubts.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:54 amNo Republic, it’s just that someone is finally on here who can make an arguement and combat some of the crap that flies on this site!
August 24th, 2007 at 12:55 amThe progressives here despise this dead soldier, unfortunately. This is a fact beyond the shadow of a doubt. While progressives will lie through their teeth that they “care†about US soldiers in Iraq–which they impotently try to show by overriding Bush’s CiC role and bringing them home before their mission is finished successfully–they really don’t. Their ideology and policy positions really implicate progressives as cursing US soldiers. In fact, I’m betting that many Toilet Paper hate-site readers think Nathan Hubbard deserved to die and is burning in hell (progs only acknowledge a hell when they hope that US soldiers are burning in it). Here is proof that libs hate US soldiers: Obama accuses US soldiers of bombing civilian villages in Afghanistan; Murtha publicly condemned US soldiers for committing “atrocities†in Iraq; and John Kerry charged that US soldiers were “terrorizing†Iraqi women and children. The progressives here feel the same way.
Comment by ProgressiveswillspitongraveofMarine — August 23, 2007 @ 11:07 pm”
Amen, brother.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:55 amHas anyone ever heard of a progressive, liberal, democrat or any one that opposes the invasion/massacre ever make a nasty comment towards those in the military? Post #9 – that is one hideous lie, a lie I have heard all too often. Perhaps it is made to distract from the fact those like you are too cowardice to fight in this evil cause you believe in. This is a lie fabricated by hate America because they need something to talk about – can’t be the truth.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:57 amNo Republic, it’s just that someone is finally on here who can make an arguement and combat some of the crap that flies on this site!
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:55 am
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Hey buddy, I hate to break it to you… but these liberals don’t care about logical arguments. If you aren’t appealing to their emotions, they don’t care.
Remember how Zooey was furious because you didn’t “say nice about the family,” because you never know if they will read this or not?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:58 amNo Republic, it’s just that someone is finally on here who can make an arguement and combat some of the crap that flies on this site!
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:55 am
Told ya so, folks! Paid Repuke shill!!!!
We’ll probably going to get more and more of this here. The nasty fools like Makarios and Bigfoot weren’t gittin’ the job done. Ole KKKarl weren’t gittin’ enough bang for your buck, so now we got the kindly, concerned Ole Colonel here, ’splainin’ patiently why we’re all wrong.
The Surge is working!
August 24th, 2007 at 12:58 amComment by Progressivesblahblah August 23, 2007 @ 11:07 pmâ€Amen, brother. Comment by O. Bigfoo
I see Sybil is talking to itself again. Big old Yawn.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:59 amHas anyone ever heard of a progressive, liberal, democrat or any one that opposes the invasion/massacre ever make a nasty comment towards those in the military?
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Umm… yeah. All the time.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:59 amComment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:52 am
Mister, you are wishful thinkin’, and lives and treasure are being wasted in the meantime. I could look it all up, but we’ve exhausted all of the talking points here before. I disagree, and I have the facts – not the Daily Show, on my side. The problem is that people like you are wasting my countrymen and my tax money. You might be in the military and you might get wasted – I hope not – but the kid at the top of this post didn’t have to die for some misbegotten oil grab. If you believe you are doing the right thing, i can’t change your mind. I can speak the truth.
BTW: there has never been a soldier who, at one point, didn’t think he was doing the right thing.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:59 amWe are restoring infrastructure. The Army Corp of Engineers has projects all over the country.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:52 am
Well that would explain why people in Baghdad have no water and virtually no electricity.
Not to mention the buildings constructed by American contractors which literally leaked sh!t through the ceilings.
Ah, we’re doing a heck of a job.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:00 amThese liberals don’t care about logical arguments. If you aren’t appealing to their emotions, they don’t care.
Comment by Makarios — August 24, 2007 @ 12:58
Riiiight… “The Saudis aren’t Molsems!”
**SQUIRT SQUIRT**
Care to explain your own words?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:00 amAs for my reasoning, I believe you can support a cause and not be at the forefront of that cause. IE, you can support a nation at war and not fight.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 23, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
Yes, but that makes you a coward and a chickenhawk, unless you are ineligible. Especially an unnecessary war against a country that was no threat. You are not and have never been in service.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:00 amthe kid at the top of this post didn’t have to die for some misbegotten oil grab
The crash was caused by “mechanical problems,†the same kind that happen here. You can’t blame this on Bush.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:02 amAll the time.
Comment by Makarios — August 24, 2007 @ 12:59 am
Whatever fantasies you have about yourself, Makarios, you’re not “military”.
Care to explain what **Squirt Squirt** is supposed to mean?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:02 amI see your true colors coming through. Pathetic. Here we go, y’all – just post around my answers.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:02 amHere is some violence and infrastructure metrics from the Brookings institution on Drums blog.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/
August 24th, 2007 at 1:02 amI love it whan you talk like that.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:04 amComment by Frank Burns — August 24, 2007 @ 1:02 am
You link to a site with a quote from Clinton at the top…
Well done, liberal.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:05 amShane did her thing.
Comment by Col. Frank Slade — August 24, 2007 @ 1:02 am
Sorry!!! Not even in the same neighborhood as an “answer”. That was the Mackerel’s comment, and the Mackerel’s alone. Only he knows what he meant. I’m beginning to think he’s arfraid to explain his own words!
You’re a big boy, Mackerel… speak up!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:06 amDepending on your approach, bathing your Sasquatch can be a pleasant or a traumatic experience for all involved. Some Bigfoot species are natural water lovers, while others not only hate the process, they prove the theories about Yeti ESP by uncannily disappearing at bath time. Either way, by following a few simple guidelines, you’ll be able to clean up your canine companion faster than you can say, “Neocon Troll!”
August 24th, 2007 at 1:06 amHey Jessep!
…I’m still waiting for an answer to my ??? about…
…fiscal responsibility and taxes…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:06 amUmm… yeah. All the time.
Comment by Makarios — August 24, 2007 @ 12:59 am
and malarkey takes up the monkey-liar’s dance again. Spin, little liar, get that tutu whirling! dance with your liar buddy jessep, and the perverted bigfoot, do the liar’s chacha, slug the GOP koolaid, dance, dance, don’t stop or a thought might enter y8our empty heads!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:07 amThe deaths of the Hubbard brothers is indeed a tragedy, the type of tragedy which has a long history in the defense of our nation.
The fact that liberals will use those deaths to politicize our War on Terror, when both brothers obviously felt that serving their country was an honorable duty, is shameful.
Gravity works both inside, and outside, of Iraq. A helicopter can crash anywhere.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:07 amOkay, now the lunatic libs are starting to come out of the woodwork!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:08 amHey Frank…
…you finished eating your parents’ corpses in the basement I see…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:08 amEven though we disagree, can I still sex you up?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:08 amt’s just you far left fringe moonbats that have the doubts.
Comment by Makarios
So what was supposed to be shock and awe, a 6 month campaign, according to Rumsfeld, that has gone on much longer than expected is the cause of the doubt. Not the noonbats [you would think someone who knows about greeks would know about astronomy such as Saronic cycles] The doubt comes not from porgressives but from the poor planning and execution of the looney tune freedom operation party.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:08 amHere is proof that libs hate US soldiers: Obama accuses US soldiers of bombing civilian villages in Afghanistan; Murtha publicly condemned US soldiers for committing “atrocities†in Iraq; and John Kerry charged that US soldiers were “terrorizing†Iraqi women and children. The progressives here feel the same way.
Comment by ProgressiveswillspitongraveofMarine
Leave it to Bush supporters that have black hearts and evil thinking as you do.
We all understand, as Murtha understands and Obama understands that those in the military are going to follow orders, it is illegal for them not to. What is so sad about this evil massacre/invasion is many of the soldiers STILL believe they are going after those that struck us on 9/11.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:09 amDon’t distract the real truth with this lie… you evil doers who are just fine watching soldiers die over oil. Think you gas price will go down.. think again.
No Republic, it’s just that someone is finally on here who can make an arguement and combat some of the crap that flies on this site!
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:55 am
Who’s that? Not you! I hope you don’t think that anyone here besides the Dancing Liar’s Club of wingnuts believes any of your bullshit! You’ve never seen service, that’s the only sure thing about you.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:09 amOkay, now the lunatic libs are starting to come out of the woodwork!
Comment by Makarios — August 24, 2007 @ 1:08 am
And STILL it won’t explain its own words…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:10 amComment by O. Bigfoot #150
Hey BigMouth…
…my conscience is clear…
…I asked ‘em NOT to go…
…many times…
…is YOUR house insured against…
…falling helicopters?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:11 amThere is a real Col. Jessep. I found records. Whether he is the same person who is in our thread or not is immaterial. Service in Iraq was in the records.
Comment by WaltTheMan — August 24, 2007 @ 12:50 am
This one admitted to borrowing the name from “A Few Good Men”.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:11 am#128 is pure psychosis on display.
I want to thank all the lowlife Bush/War/Hate/Violence supporters at this site (also known as the trolls) for never letting us forget how despicable they are. You freaks are a real tribute to the Republican party.
My father has been a steady supporter of the GOP for over 50 years. He defended Richard Nixon even after Nixon resigned and lots of serious dirt came out about his criminal activities. He told me that he was considering voting for Hillary Clinton, and he was very favorable about voting for Barack Obama, and if he didn’t vote for the Democrat he probably wouldn’t vote for any presidential candidate. Tonight he spoke of the Republican party’s base with scorn and disgust, and said he couldn’t even use the word conservative anymore to describe the party.
If my father feels this way about the GOP, I can only conclude that the party is heading for total disaster in the coming election.
Thanks, guys. You’ve really done a great job of bringing your party down to PERMANENT MINORITY STATUS.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:11 amGravity works both inside, and outside, of Iraq.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 1:07 am
So does stupidity. And you’re the proof.
Ever figure out the difference between levees and levies?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:11 amThere are no reports it can cause any health effects (other than potentially getting pregnant)!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:11 amThe crash was caused by “mechanical problems,†the same kind that happen here. You can’t blame this on Bush.
Comment by Makarios
Why not? you blame everything on people that have nothing to do with your obscene and baseless opinions.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:12 amThanks, guys. You’ve really done a great job of bringing your party down to PERMANENT MINORITY STATUS.
Comment by VerbalKint — August 24, 2007 @ 1:11 am
High five, Makarios! You’re helping destroy the GOP for 20 years, minimum!!!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:13 am“Has anyone ever heard of a progressive, liberal, democrat or any one that opposes the invasion/massacre ever make a nasty comment towards those in the military? Post #9 – that is one hideous lie, a lie I have heard all too often. Perhaps it is made to distract from the fact those like you are too cowardice to fight in this evil cause you believe in. This is a lie fabricated by hate America because they need something to talk about – can’t be the truth.
Comment by had enough — August 24, 2007 @ 12:57 am”
Yes, I have. Check over posts right here on this blog. When “RagingGurrl” learned my son was going into a military academy, her reaction was that my son was going into the military merely to get ready to do some killing of his own, and she sarcastically suggested I should be proud of him for that reason alone.
Her’s was the most blatant denigration of the military I had seen in a while, most are far more subtle. I congratulated her on coming out of the closet as a known hater of the military. Many of you don’t have her courage to state how they really feel.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:14 amNo Republic, it’s just that someone is finally on here who can make an arguement and combat some of the crap that flies on this site!
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:55 am
How long have you been around this site then, because your name is brand new.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:14 amGravity works both inside, and outside, of Iraq. A helicopter can crash anywhere. Comment by O. Bigfoot
Its said nature abhors a vaccum. Ironically the trolls excel at sucking.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:14 amPERMANENT MINORITY STATUS.
Comment by VerbalKint — August 24, 2007 @ 1:11 am
Does that mean we get preferential treatment?
Just kidding!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:14 amMy apologies Frank Burns…
…#152 was directed at a troll who posts under the moniker Frank J…
…not meant for you…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:16 amThe fact that liberals will use those deaths to politicize our War on Terror, when both brothers obviously felt that serving their country was an honorable duty, is shameful.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 1:07 am
Damn straight, now if we can only get to the bottom of who shot Pat Tillman, and who orchestrated not just one, but two coverups, we can punish them. Oh, wait… that was the Bush Admin… never mind!!!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:16 amThe death of the Hubbard brothers cannot be tied to the defense of the nation, only to the stealing of oil and the mass murder of Iraqi families. Not a single active-duty soldier has been called upon to defend this country since WW2. The USA was in no danger from Korea, Viet Nam, Panama or Iraq. The only danger was to the war-profiteers, led by Cheney, and the big oil cartels, represented by the Bush-Nazi conglomerate. Many thousands of brave, gullible, misled patriotic young men and women are dead for no reason other than greed and sociopathy. Nobody should join the armed services under a Republican administration; they will always send you to die for money and power, and weaken the country’s defenses by doing so. The proof is right here and now. The sick, sad fact is that wingnuts are cowards and sissies who count on the poor and gullible to protect their oil profits and tax breaks. The success of America has been severely limited and set back by the antiAmerican conservative Right wing, from the vey beginnings of this country, when the rightwingers sided with King George, against the forces of freedom and democracy. Nothing has changed.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:16 amI hate to break it to you hate America types… it is not about far left, far right…it is about the Constitution. Either you are for the Constitution or you are against it as this present administration appears to be.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:16 amDo you know the Preamble… We the People…
the kid at the top of this post didn’t have to die for some misbegotten oil grab
The crash was caused by “mechanical problems,†the same kind that happen here. You can’t blame this on Bush.
Comment by Makarios — August 24, 2007 @ 1:02 am
Clearly, you are not an engineer. The sands of the mideast are just about the worst substance that can be introduced into the turbine engines of a modern helicopter. These engines have no air filter as they suck in more atmosphere in one minute than an auto would in a month. Relying on Helos in a dessert environment is equivalent to tossing anchors to drowning victims.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:17 amKeep joking away, freaks. Your time is over, and I think you know it.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:17 amMany of you don’t have her courage to state how they really feel.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007
I wouldn’t matter if I stated what I feel, you would still believe your opinionated garbage and accept it as truth no matter anyone says.
Ergo you don’t accept reality unless its your own fecked up reality.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:17 amHow long have you been around this site then, because your name is brand new.
Comment by shane — August 24, 2007 @ 1:14 am
Nice Shane… ya caught him w/ his own words!!! ;-D!!!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:17 amI’m sure you did the right thing and contacted the appropriate authorities about this serious breach of national security, didn’t you?
Good.
Now, go get me a cup of coffee.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:17 amHow’s this:
Goddamn! You are the ugliest woman I have ever seen!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:19 amMany of you don’t have her courage to state how they really feel.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 1:14 am
It wouldn’t do any good to tell you. Your mind is closed. All you ever do is come here and sneer at people.
Levy??? Levee?? You make the call.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:20 amEither you are for the Constitution or you are against it as this present administration appears to be.
That GD piece of paper as George calls it?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:20 amShane did her thing.
Comment by Col. Frank Slade — August 24, 2007 @ 1:02 am
Sorry!!! Not even in the same neighborhood as an “answerâ€. That was the Mackerel’s comment, and the Mackerel’s alone. Only he knows what he meant. I’m beginning to think he’s arfraid to explain his own words!
You’re a big boy, Mackerel… speak up!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 24, 2007 @ 1:06 am
Wow, his post about me got deleted before I even got to send it to the administrator. darn.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:20 amAgreed!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:20 amhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8545414779301935419
August 24th, 2007 at 1:20 amKeep up the good work, ronjazz. Keep speaking the truth. The trolls can’t hear it, but there are plenty of lurkers out there who can.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:20 amThis one admitted to borrowing the name from “A Few Good Menâ€.
Comment by shane — August 24, 2007 @ 1:11 am
I was looking at military records. Those official government things.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:21 am“My father has been a steady supporter of the GOP for over 50 years. He defended Richard Nixon even after Nixon resigned and lots of serious dirt came out about his criminal activities. He told me that he was considering voting for Hillary Clinton, and he was very favorable about voting for Barack Obama, and if he didn’t vote for the Democrat he probably wouldn’t vote for any presidential candidate. Tonight he spoke of the Republican party’s base with scorn and disgust, and said he couldn’t even use the word conservative anymore to describe the party.
If my father feels this way about the GOP, I can only conclude that the party is heading for total disaster in the coming election.
Thanks, guys. You’ve really done a great job of bringing your party down to PERMANENT MINORITY STATUS.
Comment by VerbalKint — August 24, 2007 @ 1:11 am”
If any of the tripe you posted is even remotely true, it is most likely due to a condition commonly known as “dementia”, or perhaps Alzheimer’s Disease.
May I suggest Aricept?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:21 amNice Shane… ya caught him w/ his own words!!! ;-D!!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 24, 2007 @ 1:17 am
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Nah. Even a quick skim of the threads here can reveal the intense hatred that you liberals feel toward your fellow Americans.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:21 amHer’s was the most blatant denigration of the military I had seen in a while, most are far more subtle. I congratulated her on coming out of the closet as a known hater of the military. Many of you don’t have her courage to state how they really feel.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 1:14 am
And yet the fact remains that your “son” will be trained to kill for oil profits and power, and will be sent in pursuit of money and power, since the USA has had no reason to war since 1945. It’s not hate of the military, as convenient as that seems for someone as shallow and thoughtless as you, it’s the history of the rich sending the poor to do their murdering and stealing. The founders of this country were far smarter than you; they knew a standing army was an invitation for psychopaths on the right to abuse that power, which they do at every turn. The Founders were anti-military; I think that sharing their feelings about it is quite patriotic and decent; you live in the wrong country.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:22 amI congratulated her on coming out of the closet…Many of you don’t have her courage to state how they really feel.
Comment by O. Bigfoot #164
…you mean like your lack of courage in admitting openly how…
…having a $150,000 insurance policy on your kid…
…(or however much a soldier’s life is worth these days)…
…is comforting to you?
…Come on out of YOUR closet why don’tcha?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:22 amThe fact that liberals will use those deaths to politicize our War on Terror, when both brothers obviously felt that serving their country was an honorable duty, is shameful.
Gravity works both inside, and outside, of Iraq. A helicopter can crash anywhere.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 1:07 am
Coming from the group who politicized Pat Tillmans death, and had to coverup and lie to do so, that is rich. You’re the intruder here politicizing this soldiers death.
Oh and that gravity reference, clever, not.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:23 amNah. Even a quick skim of the threads here can reveal the intense hatred that you liberals feel toward your fellow Americans.
Comment by Makarios — August 24, 2007 @ 1:21 am
And STILL you’re not man enough to explain your own words!!! ;-D!!!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:23 amI think this site is down to single digits for numbers of active trolls. This thread has three trolls, tops. Any sort of organized effort at defending Bush and the party appears to have vanished here. It is mostly just random, angry, irrational noise now.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:24 amDid I mention that you’re a really, really homely bit(h? I did? Cool! Wanna’ dance?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:24 amWho you callin’ an Armenian?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:25 am[size=18]Were the trolls first – i.e. “mechanical” – to post on this article comment thread?[/size]
am wondering because it seems like the first couple dozen posts on thread are trollposts.
(RE: “cowards” well…. stand away from your keyboard soldier and get ye on a C-17 to Baghdad ’cause your pResident needs you – now.)
August 24th, 2007 at 1:27 amNah. Even a quick skim of the threads here can reveal the intense hatred that you liberals feel toward your fellow Americans.
Comment by Makarios — August 24, 2007 @ 1:21 am
You’re no American. Hatred towards you is the same as hatred towards Al Qaeda, supported by Bush, Cheney and YOU. Your headlong rush to destroy the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights marks you as a domestic terrorist and a treasonous collaborator with the traitors in the Shite House. Don’t flatter y8ourself with the label American, that’s reserved for those who love their country, not those who drag it down by following a deserter and his vice-pervert.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:28 am“Our War on Terror…” YOUR War on Terror.
Please explain, how do you declare “war” on an emotion?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 1:07 am
As for “politicizing” their deaths… uh, most of us are saddened by their deaths, and furious at the pointless waste of lives. How’s that political?
Is it like using Pat Tillman’s death to shill for that nightmare, and then telling yet another lie when you’re caught in the first? Jes’ askin’…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:28 amI’m sure you did the right thing and contacted the appropriate authorities about this serious breach of national security, didn’t you?
Good.
Now, go get me a cup of coffee.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius – actual dead Roman Emperor — August 24, 2007 @ 1:17 am
This one had me spit water all over my new laptop. Well I’m sure it will dry, eventually. Thanks for the snorts.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:28 am“I wouldn’t matter if I stated what I feel, you would still believe your opinionated garbage and accept it as truth no matter anyone says.
Comment by Frank Burns — August 24, 2007 @ 1:17 am”
Oh, you mean the same way all you America haters parrot every anti-Bush opinion put up for comment on this blog? Yeah, that’s the ticket.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:29 amThis one had me spit water all over my new laptop.
Comment by shane
How many tricks did you turn to be able to afford it?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:30 amIt is mostly just random, angry, irrational noise now.
Comment by VerbalKint — August 24, 2007 @ 1:24 am
I noticed that. I suspect we’ll be getting more trolls like “Col Jessup”… a new tact is called for. The old trolls are gittin’ beatin’ like li’l tin drums these days!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:30 amThis one admitted to borrowing the name from “A Few Good Menâ€.
Comment by shane — August 24, 2007 @ 1:11 am
I was looking at military records. Those official government things.
Comment by WaltTheMan — August 24, 2007 @ 1:21 am
I don’t know how to look those up and apparently neither does OUR Col Jessep.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:31 amIf any of the tripe you posted is even remotely true, it is most likely due to a condition commonly known as “dementiaâ€, or perhaps Alzheimer’s Disease.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 1:21 am
Believe whatever you want. Clearly you cannot recognize the truth anymore (if you ever could). You and your foul leader Bush and his other putrid supporters are living in an ever-shrinking bubble.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:31 amYeah, that’s the ticket.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 1:29 am
“You America haters…” More meaningless, jinogistic claptrap!
Hey, everybody, Bigfoot’s treatin’ us all to Freedom Fries! Chow down! It’s the taste of Liberty!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:32 amNah. Even a quick skim of the threads here can reveal the intense hatred that you liberals feel toward your fellow Americans.
Comment by Makarios — August 24, 2007 @ 1:21 am
Nope we love our fellow Americans, it’s fascists like you we hate.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:32 amHow many tricks did you turn to be able to afford it?
Comment by Shy Sam — August 24, 2007 @ 1:30 am
Ah yes, proof that “moonbats” are deranged.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:34 am“See Spot (troll) Run”…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:35 amYou attack the troops. Why do liberals hate America?
Comment by Mr. Fancy Pants — August 24, 2007 @ 1:34 am
Please explain…
Oh, and how am I talking to myself?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:36 amshy p is dancing up a storm. dance, p, dance, do the dance you’re so good at, the monley-liar’s chacha, spinning, whirling, pirouetting, anything to avoid the reality of sure and utter failure of Bush’s Disaster In The Desert and your own moral emptiness, your shame at being too big a coward to enlist, your mixed feelings about sleeping with your mother, and your inability to find a friend of either sex that doesn’t have hooves! Dance away, monkey, dance to my tune!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:38 amHow many tricks did you turn to be able to afford it?
Comment by Shy Sam — August 24, 2007 @ 1:30 am
Ah yes, proof that “moonbats†are deranged.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 24, 2007 @ 1:34 am
This post must be about my laptop but it got deleted already. TRoS, is that what sam was referring to?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:38 amThat’s very, very funny. Mr Fancy Pants’ posts have disappeared.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:39 amTRoS, is that what sam was referring to?
Comment by shane — August 24, 2007 @ 1:38 am
Yep…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:40 amTRoS who the hell are you talking to?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:40 amHow many tricks did you turn to be able to afford it?
Comment by Shy Sam — August 24, 2007 @ 1:30 am
Oh and Shy Sam, if you were talking to me, the answer is none. You’re confusing me with your mamma.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:41 amTRoS who the hell are you talking to?
Comment by Makarios — August 24, 2007 @ 1:40 am
To you loser. I guess you can get deleted under any name.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:42 am“I think that sharing their feelings about it is quite patriotic and decent; you live in the wrong country.
Comment by ronjazz — August 24, 2007 @ 1:22 am”
No, ronjazz, if your words are even remotely true, then you, sir, live in the wrong country. After all, the United States has been fighting for nothing but oil since the end of WW2, right? That’s probably longer than you have been around.
I’m sorry you feel you’ve been unfortunate enough to have been born in the wrong country. I would suggest Cuba, or perhaps Venezuela, would better suit you. You apparently don’t have the intelligence necessary to understand our Democratic Republic. A Dictatorship would better suit you, relieving you of the necessity to think for yourself, thus taking the pressure off of your feeble intellect.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:42 amUmm… I didn’t post under any other names…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:42 amOh, you mean the same way all you America haters parrot every anti-Bush opinion put up for comment on this blog? Yeah, that’s the ticket.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 1:29 am
well, the deserter-in- chief sure hates America, or at least Americans, he’s killing them off as quickly as he can. substandard, no-bid equipment, 4 and 5 tours for his unnecessary dick-waving, destroying families through his savagery and lack of civilization, and sending all of the good jobs and profits overseas. There is noever any need to “prrot” any anti-Bush opinions, everything about him is despicable, and everything he does is wrong. The small handful of wingnut tools left can carry all his water, but that won’t save him, or you. The GOP is done, the only good thing to come out of the Bush crime cabal.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:43 amA Dictatorship would better suit you, relieving you of the necessity to think for yourself, thus taking the pressure off of your feeble intellect.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 1:42 am
Do you mean the kind of dictatorship Bush wishes he were in charge of? After all, the man called the Constitution a GD piece of paper. Please illuminate the subject for us.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:44 amA sustained burst of projection has just been recorded in comment #214.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:44 amDr. Dog asked me to ask somebody named Wayne about a fax. Does anybody know what this means?
Comment by Mr. Fancy Pants — August 24, 2007 @ 1:41 am
Then tell Dr. Frog that the 10 pages he faxed to me still haven’t arrived. And Wayne was going to hand the papers to him when he handed him his lunch. But the coward lapdog never showed up. But I guess you know all about it already.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:44 amUmm… I didn’t post under any other names…
Comment by Makarios — August 24, 2007 @ 1:42 am
You need to read Pinnochio.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:46 amComment by shane — August 24, 2007 @ 1:46 am
Whatever, psycho.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:47 amDoes anybody know what this means?
Comment by Mr. Fancy Pants — August 24, 2007 @ 1:41 am
Tha Dawg got “tutored” here a couple of weeks ago. He was uncomfortable in public afterwards, felt that people were laughing at him, which they were.
He (Tha Dawg…) decided that perhaps he’d be more comfortable around people, and other dogs, if he got “fixed” up w/ a pair of Neuticles, but he was too embarrassed to inquire himself, so he asked someone here to call a vet and then fax the info to him.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:48 amI’m sorry you feel you’ve been unfortunate enough to have been born in the wrong country. I would suggest Cuba, or perhaps Venezuela, would better suit you. You apparently don’t have the intelligence necessary to understand our Democratic Republic. A Dictatorship would better suit you, relieving you of the necessity to think for yourself, thus taking the pressure off of your feeble intellect.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 1:42 am
Excellent projection, bigmouth, and showing a true aptitude to twist facts and logic until they match your fever dreams and fantasies. You are the one supporting the fool that admitted publicly
August 24th, 2007 at 1:49 amTHREE TIMES he would rather be a dictator. while most of what he says is either lies or ignorance, he has shown that perhaps he should be believed on that subject. Who else would break hundreds of domestid and international laws just to have his own way? Nobody but a tinhorn, banana-republic little shit of a dictator wannabe like Bushie. unfortunately, you and your ilk are bringing America to the point where it more resembles Cuba and Venezuela than the USA, so i’m not moving. you are in the wrong country, however, if you don’t think that the Founders got it right. North Korea is your home, go there. You’ll be very comfortable.
I look forward to the return of Dr. William Dog to TP.
Comment by Mr. Fancy Pants — August 24, 2007 @ 1:50 am
And so do we. We could all use a good laugh. After all, it’s been a while since mr P’s “Saudi” routine.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:52 am“A sustained burst of projection has just been recorded in comment #214.
Comment by VerbalKint — August 24, 2007 @ 1:44 am”
Nah, no projection at all. Merely disagreeing with all you malcontents who have no political power, yet still spout your irrational anti-Bush hysteria as if you do.
Remember, it took Democrats to authorize this war, fund it, and continue it. The Democrats used you, and you were willing tools.
Now the Democrats are admitting the military surge in Iraq is working, and have even less to stand on when it comes to unilateral defeat.
Sorry folks, you lose again.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:52 amHe whipped Kerry and Gore.
Comment by Mr. Fancy Pants — August 24, 2007 @ 1:51 am
Bush “won” the 2000 election by five votes.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:53 amComment by O. Bigfoot #214
BigMouth,
If you can muster enough “courage”…
…Please address the following:
“Does America act in her own self-interest when engaged in foreign policy?”
“Do corporate special interests (including big oil) have a stake in America’s foreign policy (self-interest)?’
“Would the U.S. government USE its military might to advance its self-interest?’
“Are America’s self-interests most often counter to those of the countries/peoples upon which/whom she wishes to advance her agenda/self-interests?”
August 24th, 2007 at 1:53 amSorry folks, you lose again.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 1:52 am
Wow… I bet you drive the wrong way down one way streets too, huh?
LOSER!!!! Please go back to sucking on your big “cigar”.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:55 amHe whipped Kerry and Gore.
Comment by Mr. Fancy Pants — August 24, 2007 @ 1:51 am
Bush “won†the 2000 election by five votes.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity #226
…in the interest of historical accuracy…
…you might want to make that…
…”five CAGED votes”…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:56 amOh, God, yet another “loser for life” showing up.
Stanford grad, war veteran??? Or lying POS??? you make the call!
Say, where did the Colonels go?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:56 am…â€five CAGED votesâ€â€¦
Comment by big papa — August 24, 2007 @ 1:56 am
Agreed…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:58 amGee, where’d Mr Fancy Pants and Jake D go? Was it love at first sight?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:59 amSorry folks, you lose again.
Comment by O. Bigfoot #225
…detached from the rest of us are you?
…a real power elite are you?
…then why the blood sacrifice of your child for this game?
…why aren’t YOU immune?
…talk about “dementia”…
…looks like YOU should be taking that Alzheimer’smedication…
August 24th, 2007 at 2:00 amRemember, it took Democrats to authorize this war, fund it, and continue it. The Democrats used you, and you were willing tools.
Now the Democrats are admitting the military surge in Iraq is working, and have even less to stand on when it comes to unilateral defeat.
Sorry folks, you lose again.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 1:52 am
Fact-free again. republicans didn’t need democrats to do any of that, you can’t blame it on a few morons. the republican majority pushed this through in typical nazi lockstep. the military surge is a myth, another gigantic lie, told ove and over again by paid liars so that cowards like you will mindlessly buy into the program of raping the treasury and people of the USA, then running off to Paraguay. Defeat has already been achieved by the Bush cabal, starting with the total and instaneous surrender to Osama Bin Laden after his successful attack on Bush’s watch, and continuing with the ill-advised, illegal and bungled invasion of a country that brought no threat to us. this police action has lasted longer than WW2, and we have lost. Bush is running out the clock so that he can pass the blame for his treason onto someone else; anyone, he doesn’t care who, being a sociopath. Your side has been spouting the same bullshit for 5 yearsm we’re winning, we’re winning, and now the soldiers on the ground are showing up and telling us we’re not winning, and we can’t win. But what do they know? let’s listen to the Deserter-in-Chief and his sychophantic chickenhawks; they’re bound to be right some day, right? Wrong. LOSERS, all of you. Deadenders, cowards, sissies. Blame the dems, that’s rich. 6 years of both houses and the presidency, but blame the Democrats. What a cowardly little twerp you are, what an irresponsible useless, flaccid liar.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:02 amI wonder what “Col Jessep’s” view is on Gitmo’s prison and torture.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:03 amGee, where’d Mr Fancy Pants and Jake D go? Was it love at first sight?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 24, 2007 @ 1:59 am
They must be playing with the Colonel, waiting by the fax machine for tomorrow’s talking points.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:03 amThey must be playing with the Colonel, waiting by the fax machine for tomorrow’s talking points.
Comment by shane — August 24, 2007 @ 2:03 am
Right… short arm inspection…
August 24th, 2007 at 2:04 amAnd now Jar is gone, just like that! Nice work, TP!!!
August 24th, 2007 at 2:07 amBush can no longer win this war. The cost of staying in Iraq is too high. No amount of troops can effect political progress progress. The surge is a flawed policy from a president who can’t admit mistakes that have put American lives in harm’s way.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:07 amI wonder what “Col Jessep’s†view is on Gitmo’s prison and torture.
Comment by Ernest A. Don — August 24, 2007 @ 2:03 am
“You can’t handle the truth.”
August 24th, 2007 at 2:07 amNah, no projection at all. Merely disagreeing with all you malcontents who have no political power, yet still spout your irrational anti-Bush hysteria as if you do.
Remember, it took Democrats to authorize this war, fund it, and continue it. The Democrats used you, and you were willing tools.
This is from bigfoot’s last screed. anybody notice that we have no political power, but the Dems are responsible? What a moron.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:07 amWhat a moron.
Comment by ronjazz — August 24, 2007 @ 2:07 am
Yeah, really… did you see the Mackerel’s nonsense yesterday about Noam Chomsky, how he could have stopped the war w/ one statement but didn’t?
Holy smokes he must think Chomsky is powerful. No wonder he’s so afraid of him!
August 24th, 2007 at 2:09 amThis is really funny. “Bill Clinton” is already gone. And Jar is back, but for how long?
August 24th, 2007 at 2:12 amNice job on controlling the trolls TP. Bill Clinton and Jar are both gone and what’s happened to the Mackeral?
August 24th, 2007 at 2:20 amNow the Democrats are admitting the military surge in Iraq is working, and have even less to stand on when it comes to unilateral defeat.
Sorry folks, you lose again.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 1:52 am
Ummm…no. The “surge” was supposed to give the Iraqi government room to “restore political processes” by quelling the violence.
Please indicate how this has been accomplished, especially seeing as how the Iraqi government has decided to go, literally, on vacation.
As for quelling the violence? From TP, yesterday:
– Attacks in June “reached their highest daily average since May 2003, showing a surge in violence as President George W. Bush completed a buildup of U.S. troops.â€
– The “number of unidentified bodies in the capital has risen again to pre-surge levels over the last two months,†concluded a report by IraqSlogger.
– Today’s National Intelligence Estimate concludes that “the level of overall violence, including attacks on and casualties among civilians, remains high; Iraq’s sectarian groups remain unreconciled; AQI retains the ability to conduct high-profile attacks; and to date, Iraqi political leaders remain unable to govern effectively.â€
And the other day, from Carl Levin:
The Dems concede that violence is down IN SOME AREAS. This is not a concession that the surge is working, because, and let me put it to you once again in plain English, the main goal of the surge has failed.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:21 am“Remember, it took Democrats to authorize this war, fund it, and continue it. The Democrats used you, and you were willing tools.
This is from bigfoot’s last screed. anybody notice that we have no political power, but the Dems are responsible? What a moron.
Comment by ronjazz — August 24, 2007 @ 2:07 am”
You completely missed it, ronjazz, putting your stupidity on even further display.
The Democrats have given Bush everything he has asked for when it comes to Iraq. Money, more military power, more power to gather intelligence. etc. etc.
The Democrats, on the other hand, used you, the minority kook liberal fringe, to help them gain their power, and then they promptly turned their backs on you once they gained their power and took office.
I never said the Democrats didn’t have any power, I said you, the kook liberal fringe, had no power. You weak-minded liberals merely fell for the same Democrat ploy, just as you always have.
You cannot be blamed for ignorance. Ignorance means you just don’t know any better.
Stupidity is the inability to learn.
You keep crowing about how you are going to put a Democrat in the White House and how the Republicans are through with power for 20 years. Big Deal. Every viable Democrat running for President is going to either continue the Iraq war, or expand it to other countries. Our War on Terror will continue, regardless.
Either way, you, the kook liberal fringe, lose. American, on the other hand, wins.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:26 amNice job on controlling the trolls TP. Bill Clinton and Jar are both gone and what’s happened to the Mackeral?
Comment by shane — August 24, 2007 @ 2:20 am
Funny, isn’t it? About time. It’s really, really hard to shame the mentally ill. Nice job catching the Colonel w/ his own words, Shane. I notice he got “recalled to duty” right then and there.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:27 amAnd from Sen. Gordon Smith (R): more proof of the ORIGINAL GOAL of the surge (from the Washington Post, 1/9/2007):
Google it if you want the link to the source of the above quote. TP has recently shown a distaste for posting links so I’m not gonna try.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:27 amYep TRoS, how can we miss them when they won’t go away. Now all we have are the insane ramblings of Old Bigfootinmouth. But I don’t read his posts anyway.
I’m off to bed, night TRoS.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:30 amEither way, you, the kook liberal fringe, lose. American, on the other hand, wins.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 2:26 am
You are a bitter, desperate, empty person.
“The kook liberal fringe” – please define clearly. “American”??? WTF???
So angry, so shrill, so desperate… for what? Validation? Feeling powerless in your own life, so you come here and twist words?
If you weren’t so obnoxious, we’d feel sorry for you. Here, the Freedom Fries are on me. It’s the taste of Liberty!!
August 24th, 2007 at 2:30 amComment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 24, 2007 @ 2:27 am
You not too bright.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:30 am>I define victory as standing up a government and military
> force capble of serving the needs of the people of Iraq
And if those needs include democratically transforming into an islamic theocracy, allying with Iran and Syria, and electing a government similar to the one palestinians elected, would you consider that victory as well?
Its funny, people like BigfootO claim WE hate the troops, yet he’s one who wants them to stay in Iraq and die so that Iraqis can be free to create an Iranian Allied Islamic Theocracy.
Sorry Bigfwat, I hate the troops so much I’d rather have them alive + looking out for REAL threats that dying so that Iraq can create a government which has “no laws which contradict islam”, which is what you want for them.
Maybe you want them to become like Iran so you can nuke the border of Iran and Iraq and get double your bodycount for your genocidal nuclear fantasies…
August 24th, 2007 at 2:31 amBut I don’t read his posts anyway.
…
Comment by shane — August 24, 2007 @ 2:30 am
—
Do you even know how to read?
August 24th, 2007 at 2:31 amYou not too bright.
Comment by Makarios — August 24, 2007 @ 2:30 am
And you’re a genius, obviously.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:32 amYou not too bright.
Comment by Makarios — August 24, 2007 @ 2:30 am
I make people laugh at you nightly.
**SQUIRT SQUIRT** right in yer eye, D*ckbreath.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:32 amYou not too bright.
Comment by Makarios — August 24, 2007 @ 2:30 am
Did you see what TRoS said, SQUIRTCATCHER?
August 24th, 2007 at 2:36 am>I define victory as standing up a government and military
> force capble of serving the needs of the people of Iraq
And if those needs include democratically transforming into an islamic theocracy, allying with Iran and Syria, and electing a government similar to the one palestinians elected, would you consider that victory as well?
Its funny, people like BigfootO claim WE hate the troops, yet he’s one who wants them to stay in Iraq and die so that Iraqis can be free to create an Iranian Allied Islamic Theocracy.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:37 amSorry Bigfwat, I hate the troops so much I’d rather have them alive + looking out for REAL threats that dying so that Iraq can create a government which has “no laws which contradict islam”, which is what you want for them.
Maybe you want them to become like Iran so you can nuke the border of Iran and Iraq and get double your bodycount for your genocidal nuclear fantasies…
August 24th, 2007 at 2:38 amNo one wants to see a theocracy, you liberal.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:39 amThe progressives here despise this dead soldier,
Typical “tough talk” from another republicunt “Deferment Monkey”.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:39 amI define victory as standing up a government and military force capble of serving the needs of the people of Iraq and denying uninhabited areas as training/staging areas for terrorists.
Also restoring the civil infrastructure and being able to provide basic services to the people.
Comment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:34 am
Yet Bush (and Powell, and Bremer) were ready to pull out of Iraq and declare victory if the Iraqi government asked us to leave.
Funny that if the Democrats, or any anti-war individuals, ask Bush to leave Iraq and bring our troops home, we are told that only the generals on the ground in Iraq will decide when the troops leave. The Dems and war protesters, in making this request, are accused of supporting the terrorists, accused of treason, accused of hating and being disrespectful to our troops, and accused of wanting America to lose the “war.”
And idiots like you don’t see a problem with this obvious contradiction.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:47 amFrom the TP archives:
Bush Said He Would Withdraw U.S. Forces If The Iraqis Asked
On Monday, Iraqi political leaders called on the U.S. to set a timetable for withdrawal. In January, President Bush said that if asked by the Iraqis, U.S. forces would leave the country:
President Bush said in an interview on Thursday that he would withdraw American forces from Iraq if the new government that is elected on Sunday asked him to do so, but that he expected Iraq’s first democratically elected leaders would want the troops to remain as helpers, not as occupiers.
Bush has now been asked to withdraw. Will he stick to his word?
(Thanks to reader chill for the tip.)
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August 24th, 2007 at 2:49 amPosted by Judd November 22, 2005 11:27
From the TP archives:
UPDATE: From the Washington Post, 5/15/04:
Secretary of State Colin Powell emphatically said yesterday that if the incoming Iraqi interim government ordered the departure of foreign troops after June 30, they would pack up without protest, but emphasized he doubted such a request would be made.
… “If the provisional government asks us to leave, we will leave,†Bremer said, referring to an Iraqi administration due to take power June 30. “I don’t think that will happen, but obviously we don’t stay in countries where we’re not welcome.â€
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August 24th, 2007 at 2:50 amPosted by Judd November 22, 2005 10:16 am
“Either way, you, the kook liberal fringe, lose. American, on the other hand, wins.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 2:26 am”
Sorry, typo there. Getting late I guess.
Re-write: “Either way, you, the kook liberal fringe, lose. America, on the other hand, wins.”
Because even the Democrats know that though the thought of defeat in Iraq is currently good for them politically, an actual defeat, during their watch, is NOT good for them. They will have to either fight this war and win it, or they will have to drag it out throughout a Democrat Presidency so someone else can lose it.
Not a good prospect for the Democrats.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:52 amAnd this goodie, from NewsMax:
Citing media reports, (Sen.) McConnell said some lawmakers in Iraq’s parliament wanted a vote to ask the United States to leave.
“I want to assure you, if they vote to ask us to leave, we’ll be glad to comply with their request,” he said.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:56 amThe Iraq war is lost due to Bush’s incompetent leadership. His polices in Iraq have cost too many American lives. In the end this quagmire belongs to Bush and him alone. His failure in Iraq has made us less safe.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:56 am“The Iraq war is lost due to Bush’s incompetent leadership. His polices in Iraq have cost too many American lives. In the end this quagmire belongs to Bush and him alone. His failure in Iraq has made us less safe.
Comment by Probus — August 24, 2007 @ 2:56 am”
I know you would like to think this is true. But thankfully, it’s baloney.
August 24th, 2007 at 3:00 amAnother fag bites the dust.
August 24th, 2007 at 3:06 am“(Bush) His failure in Iraq has made us less safe.
August 24th, 2007 at 3:06 amComment by Probus — August 24, 2007 @ 2:56 amâ€
I know you would like to think this is true. But thankfully, it’s baloney.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 3:00 am”
O.B. How so? If things in Iraq are going so well – why are the republicans spinning like a cotton candy machine at a carnival?
“why are the republicans spinning like a cotton candy machine at a carnival?
Comment by ebbAndflow — August 24, 2007 @ 3:06 am”
And exactly how are they doing that? Bush has gotten everything he has asked for concerning the Iraq war. No problem there.
The surge is working. No problem there.
The Republicans have managed to either halt, or marginalize, every Democrat-inspired, half-baked investigation they have started.
I don’t see where the Republicans are spinning at all. In fact, most libs around here seem to feel they are all still in “lock step” with Bush.
August 24th, 2007 at 3:13 amWell, folks, X-Files is on TNT. I own ‘em all on disk, but love that show…
August 24th, 2007 at 3:15 amTP needs to create user accounts already. I’m getting really sick of wading through all the garbage just to read the substance posts.
In the meantime, responding to trolls makes you just as dumb as they are.
August 24th, 2007 at 3:27 am1,018,263 Iraqi deaths since U.S. Invasion.
The number is shocking and sobering.
It is at least 10 times greater than most estimates cited in the US media, yet it is based on the only scientifically valid study of violent Iraqi deaths caused by the U.S.-led invasion of March 2003.
That study, published in prestigious medical journal The Lancet, estimated that over 600,000 Iraqis had been killed as a result of the invasion as of July 2006. Iraqis have continued to be killed since then. The graphic above provides a rough daily update of this number based on a rate of increase derived from the Iraq Body Count. (See the complete explanation.)
This devastating human toll demands greater recognition. It eclipses the Rwandan genocide and our leaders are directly responsible. Little wonder they do not publicly cite it. Here is simple HTML code to post the counter to your website and help spread the word.
August 24th, 2007 at 3:50 amTp has a phycopathic poster who uses many names and pretends to be a liberal
A very sad story ,
August 24th, 2007 at 4:18 am>No one wants to see a theocracy, you liberal.
GOOD ONE!
Uhm.. well the great part about giving “freedom” to other people is that
they don’t have to do what you want them to.. sooooo.. what you’re saying is that the iraqis don’t have a right to democratically transform
themselves into a pro-iranian, hezbollah supporting islamic theocracy, right?
Do you agree with that big-O? I notice you talk alot of garbage but seem to ignore my questions about how many dead americans is it worth to you to give Iraqis the right to have a country where “no law contradicts islamic law”.
so “freedom” is more like “freedom*”
*= as long as you choose what we want you to…
August 24th, 2007 at 4:29 am>I define victory as standing up a government and military
> force capble of serving the needs of the people of Iraq
And if those needs include democratically transforming into an islamic theocracy, allying with Iran and Syria, and electing a government similar to the one palestinians elected, would you consider that victory as well?
Its funny, people like BigfootO claim WE hate the troops, yet he’s one who wants them to stay in Iraq and die so that Iraqis can be free to create an Iranian Allied Islamic Theocracy.
August 24th, 2007 at 4:30 amIs the military covenant broken?
The Guardian reports that there is growing anger among the forces that the Military Covenant, which says soldiers should expect fair treatment from the state for putting their lives in danger, is not being upheld.
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2007/08/15/is_the_military_covenant_broken.html
August 24th, 2007 at 4:48 amBush “won†the 2000 election by five votes.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 24, 2007 @ 1:53 am
I thought the vote was 5 to 4. Didn’t he win by just one vote?
August 24th, 2007 at 5:37 amTo American Soldiers everywhere, regardless of political party, who serve because they believe in our country, our Constitution, and our freedoms, thank you. For those Soldiers now in conflict, may you be safe at home soon surrounded by those who love and miss you.
August 24th, 2007 at 5:43 amI know you would like to think this is true. But thankfully, it’s baloney.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 3:00 am
Well, all Bush had to do was to listen to his dad, Brent Scowcroft, and Dick Cheney, all three who agreed that invading and occupying Iraq during the first Gulf War would have been a mistake. “Incompetent” fits quite nicely.
August 24th, 2007 at 6:07 amA very sad story , I would not like to be in the Hubbard’s shoes – heartbreaking
August 24th, 2007 at 6:14 amtest
August 24th, 2007 at 6:28 am>I have suggested in the past an extensive,
>psychological and educational supplement
>to the surge. -Phister Pee Mee
hahahah! Mr. P, Mr. P..just when I thought you couldnt say anything more stupid…
What country would these teachers come from? Who would transport them around and keep them safe from insurgents? How much would they get paid for this exceedingly high risk work? Do you really expect that people who have to risk thier lives just to go get food or gasoline are going to endanger themselves further just to go sit in on a glass intited “allah sez bombs arent cool†and “how to love your occupation 101″.
WHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Wow….I don’t think I’ve heard a more ridiculous proposal my entire life..
August 24th, 2007 at 7:31 amThree British soldiers have been killed by an American bomb during a ‘friendly fire’ attack in Afghanistan.
Oh just colateral damage – - what you stupid bas**rds
August 24th, 2007 at 7:44 amEmail sent to Faiz, Amanda, Satyam and Matt this morning…
In the DNI thread, I created this entry:
#341
Cheeky Bastard!
Comment by L. Frederick Yonas — August 23, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
..in response to the ‘jericho’ fella’s – wholescale attack.
This entry was created at entry #342 in response to #341
This morning, my entry shows up at #343 completely convoluting my post. WTF?
What is going on?
Are we having a data integrity issue at ThinkProgress?
Are we to think ThinkProgress is taking an example from the Bush whitehouse and either modifying or getting rid of data.
Is my blogging welcome at ThinkProgress?
I have also noticed that a lot of my posts are not making it up there. Is ThinkProgress gaming the system?
L. Frdederick Yonas
August 24th, 2007 at 8:24 amComment by Col. Jessep — August 24, 2007 @ 12:24 am
Col. Jessep,
I appreciate your willingness to have a civil debate, and I respect your service to this country.
My condolences to the Hubbard family. I can’t imagine how they feel. My groomsman never made it to my wedding because he was killed in Iraq. I can’t imagine the pain if I lose either of my two other close friends that are in (or will be going shortly to) Iraq.
I think many regulars here are fed up with posters that come here to post inflammatory remarks without any basis in fact, and I am afraid you are taking the brunt of the anger. Post #4 is a perfect example. He has the nerve to tell me that I hate the troops. Reading his post makes my blood boil. The last time I put on my uniform was to carry a friend’s casket. I hope I don’t have to put it on again. How dare he tell me that I don’t care.
I am not sure why you support this occupation. The terrorist threat is greater now than it ever was. If we were being effective against “terrorists”, then there should be LESS danger from them after 4+ years of “war”. The NIAs that come out from our intelligence agencies directly attribute this lessened security to our actions in Iraq.
Here’s the problem. Terrorism is NOT AN ENEMY. It is a TACTIC used by those that are desperate and feel that they have no other options. Creating more people that are desperate and feel that they have no alternatives DOES NOT REDUCE TERRORISM. The only way to end terrorism is to lift people up so that they are not desparate. For example, with the money we spent in Iraq, we could have ended world hunger for YEARS or even decades. How many people would be lining up to attack the country that is feeding the world? The heart of the problem is that the military provides security while infrastructure is built. Well, we did our job and provided the security and the reconstruction NEVER CAME – people in Iraq will only tolerate martial law and the immense death for so long – then the hope begins to fade and they want their country back.
Aside from the fact we are making America less secure by this war, the current argument for the war is democracy in Iraq or freedom in Iraq – well, they want us out but we won’t leave – how is that for freedom? Also, if Bush would have said “We need to invade Iraq to give them freedom.” The American people would never have supported him. This occupation was a sham from the beginning and we need to stop pouring gasoline on the fire. All we are doing is creating more enemies and in turn MORE TERRORISTS.
All that I ask is that you look at all the facts and evaluate them with an open mind – it is difficult to see the truth when the administration keeps telling me the things I would LOVE to believe, but we have to look for the truth before we can heal Our Great Country.
August 24th, 2007 at 8:35 amHow many Iraqis have lost all their children? Or both their parents?
August 24th, 2007 at 9:11 amComment by DanCaveman — August 24, 2007 @ 8:35 am
Thank you, DanCaveman, for your eloquent post. The far right will never realize (or admit) that we who wish to see an end to the Iraq occupation are patriots. We care about our soldiers, we care about our standing in the world, and long for the day when Americans are seen as “the good guys” again. There is a tremendous amount of good we can do in the world and for ourselves if we focus less on oil and less on personal political power.
Regarding Nathan Hubbard — he is one of over 3,700 American fatalities resulting from this idiocy so far. That’s 3,700 families grieving (some, like the Hubbards, are two-fers). 3,700 communities losing one of their own. To say nothing of the number of soldiers returning home with missing arms and legs, brain injuries, and other permanent disabilities. Sometimes we need to step back from the numbers and remember these are people.
August 24th, 2007 at 9:11 am“I never said the Democrats didn’t have any power, I said you, the kook liberal fringe, had no power. You weak-minded liberals merely fell for the same Democrat ploy, just as you always have.”
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 2:26 am
OK — you say we have no power, and Mr. Pee says (in a different thread) that if it wasn’t for the evil liberals, we would have won in Iraq already.
I know that the wingnuts are all programmed to chant “libs are bad, libs are bad” — but could you get it together on this power thing? Do we have power or not?
August 24th, 2007 at 9:17 amMissMolly,
Thank you for all your posts. Your posts are a breath of fresh air and are much more eloquent and informative than I could ever be. When I wade through all the insults and posts that are designed to manipulate the facts to fit an ideology I get very discouraged and start losing hope – then your posts refill my hopefulness.
Keep up the good work!
August 24th, 2007 at 9:24 am“I know that the wingnuts are all programmed to chant “libs are bad, libs are bad†— but could you get it together on this power thing? Do we have power or not?
Comment by missmolly — August 24, 2007 @ 9:17 am”
Ask yourself what the Democrats have done for you lately, and you will have your answer.
August 24th, 2007 at 9:44 amStill waiting for my pizza, O. hairball…………
August 24th, 2007 at 9:45 amremember, no pepperoni…
August 24th, 2007 at 9:52 ami’ve been censored, but i’ll still sh*t on cheney’s and bush’s graves if it’s the last thing i do.
August 24th, 2007 at 10:46 am>Ask yourself what the Democrats have done for you lately,
tax cuts for millionaires, but its not cost effetive to send most armored vehicles the troops need via plane.
corporate welfare for multinationals, but moms have to have bake sales to send thier kids the armor the government didnt buy them…
oh wait…those wernt democratic ideals….
August 24th, 2007 at 10:59 amWell done, DanCaveman & missmolly.
August 24th, 2007 at 11:02 am>Ask yourself what the Democrats have done for you lately,
tax cuts for millionaires, but its not cost effetive to send most armored vehicles the troops need via plane.
corporate welfare for multinationals, but moms have to have bake sales to send thier kids the armor the government didnt buy them…
oh wait…those wernt democratic ideas….
August 24th, 2007 at 11:04 amYankee go home!
Yankee go home!
August 24th, 2007 at 11:14 amIraqis fight Americans “over there” so that the rest of the world don’t have to fight Americans “at home”.
Iraqi insurgents are freedom fighters for the whole world!
They help to safe guard our resources from theft.
August 24th, 2007 at 11:22 amYeah, I should go to a conservative site and make vile neocon statements to make conservatives look bad (if that’s possible).
Fact is, progressives are not responsible for the deaths in this poor family. I feel for them, but it’s you neocons who owe them apologies. NOT US.
August 24th, 2007 at 11:22 amHow many Iraqis have lost all their children? Or both their parents?
Comment by Alejandro — August 24, 2007 @ 9:11 am
You can ask this question because you are not a HYPOCRITE!
Unlike those who cry for the FEW perpertrators who die while commiting the crime against humanity called the Iraq War, while shedding nary a tear for the MANY victims.
If it is alright for us to cry and call this dead CRIMINIAL a hero for his allowing himself to be pawn of one one side, then it must be alright to call the dead Al Queda CRIMINALS heros also for their allowing themselves to be pawns on the other side, right?
Or are CRIMES commited by family and friends OK?
August 24th, 2007 at 11:30 amYou are a real gem criticalthinker. Priceless…
August 24th, 2007 at 11:57 amSCREW ‘EM! both him and his bro.
They are both mercenaries helping Bushco kill innocent Iraqi people.
Foreign invaders. Death to the Hubbard family. They get what they deserve.
Osama were at TP are with you!!!
August 24th, 2007 at 12:34 pmDeath to America!!!
A very sad story , I would not like to be in the Hubbard’s shoes – heartbreaking
Comment by Tobey Tall
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Toughen up TT
Break your poor wittle heart huh?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:38 pmHey big papa,
Here is a couple of fresh graves you can piss on.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:42 pmComment by Bob #314
…holding my water for cowards and TRAITORS…
…like YOU Bobby…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:16 pmIf you wanna see O. BigMouth clam up…
…just ask it how it plans to pay for the war in Iraq…
…since its kind HATE taxes so much…
…and the blood sacrifice of its child for the greater glory…
…of its gods Bushiva and L’il Dick…
…won’t do much…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:32 pmHere is a couple of fresh graves you can piss on.
Comment by Bob #314
…lemme guess…
…Mississippi?
…South Carolina?
…Alabammy?
…definitely trailer-schooled…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:41 pmThe idea that if you support a war effort but don’t serve makes you a coward is total BS. I assume most everyone here supports the local and federal law enforcement, which is also voluntary like the military. The police have an ongoing WAR with crime. So considering 99.9% of the posters here are not and have not been a police officer or some other type of law enforcement individual, but demand that these volunteers protect them from criminals, it’s just cowardly on their part if they haven’t served in law enforcement.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:07 pmComment by Bob #314
…holding my water for cowards and TRAITORS…
…like YOU Bobby…
Comment by big papa
August 24th, 2007 at 4:39 pm—————————-
Now you’re talking. Which Defeatotard is first Pelosi, Reid?
SCREW ‘EM! both him and his bro.
They are both mercenaries helping Bushco kill innocent Iraqi people.
Foreign invaders. Death to the Hubbard family. They get what they deserve.
Osama were at TP are with you!!!
Death to America!!!
Comment by KOS Kiddie
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A visitor from Daily Kos tells how he really feels…
August 24th, 2007 at 4:42 pmI’m so sick of right wingers claiming that liberals hate the military. Because we don’t want an uneccessary war that automatically means we have some sort of grudge against the actual folks serving. They’re people, just like you or I. Why in the world would we want bad things to happen to them? Liberals after all are the ones that never wanted to put them in harms way from the get go. You are the ones that continue to support the catastrophe that still endangers their lives. So please explain this reasoning to me
August 24th, 2007 at 5:00 pm#321
Libs enjoy nothing better than a good anti-war slogan like:
When Clinton lied no one died.
The simpler it is the better their little brains can repeat it over & over.
August 24th, 2007 at 6:30 pmAll I asked was for people to look at the facts with an open mind. If they have valid arguments for this occupation, then present them and we can discuss their validity. It seems that people prefer insults and slogans. I am losing hope.
August 24th, 2007 at 10:08 pmLibs enjoy nothing better than a good anti-war slogan like:
When Clinton lied no one died.
The simpler it is the better their little brains can repeat it over & over.
Comment by Bob — August 24, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
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August 25th, 2007 at 6:53 pmHeYooo!
whats so heroic about dying due to mechanical problems or getting sent home in a shoebox because of a homemade bomb?
August 26th, 2007 at 10:33 pm