Senate to hold hearings on Utah mine collapse.
By on Aug 23rd, 2007 at 6:30 pm
Senate to hold hearings on Utah mine collapse.
When Congress returns, the Senate Appropriations subcommittee that oversees labor issues will hold hearings on the collapse in a Utah mine that caused six coal miners to go missing. The committee wants mine co-owner Bob Murray to answer questions about the safety of the mine and “whether mining should have been conducted at Crandall Canyon at all because of the potential for collapses.”
UPDATE: Huffington Post notes that, after 17 days of silence, CNN finally offered a critical look into Murray’s record.
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This is a waste of mother%*$#@*& tax dollars!
Everyone knows that Cheney was conducting secret underground nuclear tests which caused the mine collapse. That or his weather machine was set too high.
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:33 pmEveryone knows that Murray wants to collect insurance money and could care less about worker safety!!
And it wasn’t an underground test, it was Limbaugh falling out of his chair when he took too much oxycodone.
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:36 pmCrandall, ruh roh, bad juju!
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:37 pmThis is a waste of mother%*$#@*& tax dollars -LCA
So apparently was the TALON program. And so is your welfare state of Iraq. Besides once Murray pays the big ass fine he’s gonna get it’ll all work out.
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:41 pmBush will claim executive mining privilege.
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:43 pmWhenever I get a glimpse of this Murray character, I get a sudden desire to sprinkle table salt on him. Never been able to tell what he most resembles – Jaba the Hut or a slug.
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:44 pmThis is why the Democrat Congress has 0% approval.
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:45 pmI can see the future for I am a clairvoyant: as soon as these pork barrel-spending, military-hating, gay-subserving Democrats conduct another useless and asinine hearing when their vacation is over, the Dem-controlled Congress’ ratings will go into the SINGLE-DIGITS! I read in a libtarded-leaning AP article earlier this week that regarding anything that could’ve been done differently with the mine, the only thing Murray could’ve done was to hand over communications responsibilities to the MSHA. This means that bringing in MSHA would only have resulted in consolidating and streamlining the updates on search efforts, but it wouldn’t have changed the doomed status of the miners. Watch for the psycho Dems, however, to plot and shift the blame for the whole collapse–all the fault of structural problems Murray allegedly didn’t know about–onto Bush and the MSHA. This will prove that Demoncrats manufacture strawman arguments out of pure $hit.
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:46 pmCNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. Aug. 6-8, 2007. N=approx. 500 adults nationwide. MoE ± 4.5.
“Do you have more confidence in President Bush or in the Democrats in Congress to deal with the major issues facing the country today?”
8/6-8/07
President
Bush 35
Democrats
In Congress 48
Both (vol.) 3
Neither (vol.) 12
Unsure 2
This is a little more perspective for Makarios to shove somewhere…
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:50 pmMarkarios isn’t interested in facts, or differing viewpoints. He can’t even answer simple questions on such basic things as “do the Reps support the troops?” That gets his panties all in a knot because it’s not “on topic”. Coward. Join the Army or STFU.
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:57 pmComment by RUCerious — August 23, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
That poll is bogus. According to your info, only 14% don’t approve of either congress or Bush… we all know that ain’t true!!!
Nice try.
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:57 pm.
Comment by Dave C — August 23, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
ummm…
No. I think I’ll do as I please, douche.
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:57 pmComment by Makarios — August 23, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
You really are a dumbfu(k.
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:58 pmThat’s a CNN poll, asswipe. You got something better?
No. I think I’ll do as I please
Of course you will. No one can force you into manhood. Just like no one can force you into the armed forces… yet. Coward.
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:59 pmWhat, me, understand the word More?
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:00 pmI can see Murray now, wringing his hands, cowing before the Committee, saying:
“It’s evil, m’lords, the mine is EVIL I tell you!
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:00 pmsix coal miners to go missing
“Go missing” is too tepid. How about “six coal miners to be abandoned for dead like it was the 19th century and the labor movement never happened?”
Labor Day is coming soon, and it’s worth noting that the movement in the United States started with the coal miners. Look how far we’ve regressed.
Oh well, let’s have a cookout.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:02 pmThat’s a CNN poll
Comment by RUCerious — August 23, 2007 @ 6:58 pm
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So?
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:02 pmMore hearings…yawn. Way to go Congress. This administration has all but eliminated Congressional oversight. Is anybody there that knows what to do with the unique moments they find themselves in? Sure the GOP is the least respected institution in the US right now and worldwide probably second only to al Qaeda, and yes the Democrats took over the hill for several compelling reasons, but…when is someone like Leahy going to stop making threats every other week and actually follow through?
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:05 pmWhat level of education did you claim to have?
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:06 pmEver take statistics or math?
Comment by RUCerious — August 23, 2007 @ 7:06 pm
Sure.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:07 pmIs GOP strategist Rafael Gonzalez a serial killer?
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:08 pmComment by ccokz — August 23, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
No.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:09 pmNo. Comment by Makarios
When a troll says no it means yes.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:11 pmWhen a troll says no it means yes.
Comment by Conpervative — August 23, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
Yes.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:12 pmDoes every major news scandal have to go before Congress now?
I hear that dogfighting guy was hiding something.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:17 pmI work in the coal mining industry and I have met Murray, and I can say for a fact that no other company in the US will do retreat mining. It’s too dangerous. It’s the cheapest coal available, unless you throw in the cost of paying all the claims.
China does it though, and they lose several hundred workers a year.
My company walks away from the mine and leaves the pillars intact.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:20 pmWOWSEY. I actually got 15 words into this looney tin-foil truth detector rant;
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:21 pmI can see the future for I am a clairvoyant: as soon as these pork
before I stopped reading the looney tin foil truth detector conspiracy bilge.
No. I think I’ll do as I please and douche.
Comment by Makarios
Thanks, it was getting a little rotten in Denmark.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:26 pmTypical grandstanding effort on the part of Congress. Rather than tackle substantive issues, they’ll get a few soundbites off and do nothing.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:32 pmThis is a little more perspective for Makarios to shove somewhere…
Comment by RUCerious — August 23, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
I don’t think there’s any more room up his arse. What with his head and CT both lodged so firmly up there.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:32 pmMarkarios isn’t interested in facts, or differing viewpoints. He can’t even answer simple questions on such basic things as “do the Reps support the troops?†That gets his panties all in a knot because it’s not “on topicâ€. Coward. Join the Army or STFU.
Comment by Dave C — August 23, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
Mackeralhead is complaining about others staying “on topic”? Oh that is too funny.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:34 pmStupid republican sheep obviously can’t read or follow the trail of dead when it comes to their beloved nazi overlords. Just lick the boot, look the other way and let their cowardly traitors nail another board to the coffin of this country they claim to love so much.
As it turns out, the Bu$h appointed MHSA granted permission for this dangerous and probably illegal operation.
THAT is the reason for the hearings, I hope somebody fries for it, preferably someone high up.
After you are done with that one, try this, whistleblowers back in 2005 were warning about this, exposing even more Bu$h crony-ism in his appointments of energy industry executives and CEO’s to head up Mine Safety. And you republican clowns still don’t make the correlation between corrupt business practices and humans dying.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/05/1455200
You trolls (you know who you are) come to this board to derail real conversations and stifle enlightening debate with your childish and often traitorous ill-informed (or worse) nonsense. You offer nothing but insults, lies and sheepish cowardice just like the government that you support- hook, line, and sinker. I feel sorry for you, I feel sorry for your children and I feel sorry for this country that is being destroyed while you tow the line and insult people who care enough to call these fools on their lies, murders and treachery.
@#$%^%^@%!!!
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:41 pmMr. Pus is gonna douche?
And I thought Dr. Frankenfurter was confused.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:41 pmDoes the committee have a goal in mind, or are they just holding a hearing?
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:42 pmComment by thoughtcriminal — August 23, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
Well ranted, thoughtcriminal. :-)
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:43 pmFunny!
CT hasn’t been here all week, but shane can’t stop talking about him!!!
Shane ♥ CT!!!!
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:46 pmThanks # 32
From what I saw of his interview with CNN’s AC, Murphy seemed like a lying scumbag. AC backed him in to a pretty good corner and he squirmed. (Something about changing mine practices to allow retreat mining when Murphy took over last year…denied knowledge of everything even when AC told him of documents.) Showed him in a past testimony too…what a peach!
Sure the Senate should have hearings in the appropriate committee. Murphy is one of the worst in the business for over-all safety violations. Mining is dangerous enough without cutting corners and taking risks for greater profit. With all the new coal-fired powerhouses being built as we speak, there is plenty of profit in coal.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:47 pmNo. I think I’ll do as I please, douche.
Comment by Makarios — August 23, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
We’re not interested in your personal habits.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:50 pmCT hasn’t been here all week, but shane can’t stop talking about him!!!
Shane ♥ CT!!!!
Comment by Makarios — August 23, 2007 @ 7:46 pm
1. Nobody believes anything you say.
2. It is your jealousy that makes you think anybody likes CT.
3. Why don’t you two get a room?
4. Nobody believes anything you say.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:50 pmuh h, dont tell me Leahy’s gonna write a letter!
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:50 pmFor too many years the Republican led congress did no oversight. Now that they are doing the job they’re supposed to do the neocons are crying that they’re doing it.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:53 pmIt is your jealousy that makes you think anybody likes CT.
Jealousy? How so?
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:53 pmDance, malarkios, dance! You’re slowing down! Get those lies up to speed! Dance or you’ll be flunked out, again! Come on, monkey-liar, spin, pirouette, flaunt that tutu!
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:57 pmWhy is this a federal issue?
Yes there should be a bevvy of legal concerns pursuing this, but how is congress the appropriate forum?
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:01 pm#41, exactly.
Deregulate everything, just like Ronald McReagan said, and this is the result you get. Free market? HA! More like “Free to Kill As Long As It Reaps in Billions In Profits”
sad state this country is in…
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:01 pmDance, malarkios, dance! You’re slowing down! Get those lies up to speed! Dance or you’ll be flunked out, again! Come on, monkey-liar, spin, pirouette, flaunt that tutu!
Comment by ronjazz — August 23, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
He’s too fat to dance. He just likes wearing the tutu around the basement. I guess the idiot got kicked out of community college. Probably because of his antisocial behavior.
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:16 pmHow do you ensure a complete cover-up of anything and everything you like in America? You initiate a bi-partisan investigation! Bi-partisan investigations can decide on the outcome they want and then ensure that the “investigation” comes to that outcome. Need any examples?
Independent investigations dig too deeply and could end up with the inconvenient truth. Nobody wants that.
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:17 pmI didn’t know that traitors needed to douche. Weird is that some kind of a troll fetish? How often does a traitor douche? I am just wondering, because I thought this troll was a gay guy all along. Turns out he needs to douche constantly. Learn something new everyday.
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:27 pmI work in the coal mining industry and I have met Murray, and I can say for a fact that no other company in the US will do retreat mining. It’s too dangerous. It’s the cheapest coal available, unless you throw in the cost of paying all the claims.
China does it though, and they lose several hundred workers a year.
Comment by nanlichi — August 23, 2007 @ 7:20 pm
Actually, China is much worse. In a news article on the most recent disaster, where the mines were flooded, it was reported that roughly 2,000 Chinese miners have died already this year.
Of course, it may be that they weren’t all coal miners.
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:32 pmI hope that the survivors of those killed in this mine sue the pants off Murray. I’m fairly sure they will win since their is a lot of evidence that he knew that mining where they were was very risky.
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:44 pmTypical grandstanding effort on the part of Congress. Rather than tackle substantive issues, they’ll get a few soundbites off and do nothing.
Comment by Shawn
You don’t think the death of 9 people, possibly due to gross negligence, to be a substantive issue? What is a substantive issue to you?
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:52 pmComment by thoughtcriminal “
Kudos! Very well said.
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:55 pmSpudge_Boy,
As I’m sure you already know, douching is totally unnecessary as that particular organ is “self clean”.
Makarios, however, may need to flush that dirtier area, especially after any “encounter.” (**cough jeff ganon**cough **karl rove**)
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:59 pmOh, hello trueblue!
*squirt* *squirt* **SPLASH!!!**
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:02 pmIf the mistakes and risktaking of this company can be brought to light, and it saves other miner’s lives, why wouldn’t that be a good use of Congress’ time and energy. They’re not going to impeach the criminals in charge, so investigate away!
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:06 pmOh, hello trueblue!
*squirt* *squirt* **SPLASH!!!**
Comment by Makarios — August 23, 2007 @ 9:02 pm
Please explain what that means, Pee.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:09 pmPlease explain what that means, Pee.
Comment by Zooey — August 23, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
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Well, first of all, it ain’t pee.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:10 pmPlease explain what that means, Pee.
It means he’s a moron.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:11 pmWell, first of all, it ain’t pee.
Comment by Makarios — August 23, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
Sure it is. You’re the Archbishop of Urine.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:11 pmWell, It looks like Mr. Pus is in full melt down. I bid all you humans goodnight. And you too Mr. Pus!
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:12 pmWell, first of all, it ain’t pee.
Comment by Makarios — August 23, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
Uh huh Mr Pee, go on.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:12 pmWell, first of all, it ain’t pee.
As if it matters which moron you are today.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:13 pm“*squirt* *squirt* **SPLASH!!!**”
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:14 pmsounds like Macaroon is blogging from the can with a bad case of the hershey squirts
Methinks the Archbishop would like for true to kiss his Bishopric.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:14 pm#
What level of education did you claim to have?
Ever take statistics or math?
Comment by RUCerious — August 23, 2007 @ 7:06 pm
#
Comment by RUCerious — August 23, 2007 @ 7:06 pm
Sure.
Comment by
Makarios is a known useless jerk… not worth one letter of text.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:14 pmUh huh Mr Pee, go on.
Comment by Zooey — August 23, 2007 @ 9:12 pm
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You’d understand better if you had some hands on experience. If I explained over the internet it wouldn’t be the same.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:15 pmAs if it matters which moron you are today.
Comment by Dave C — August 23, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
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Man, you are dumb.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:15 pmMak certainly can’t interpret a simple preference poll, one must have questions about his intellectual prowess.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:16 pmMakarios is soooo not worth the bandwidth.
He’s a sick#$%^& with sicker fantasies.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:18 pmMak certainly can’t interpret a simple preference poll, one must have questions about his intellectual prowess.
Comment by RUCerious — August 23, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
I have no questions about his “intellectual prowess” because he’s demonstrated over probably thousands of comments that he possesses none. Zero. Zip. Nada.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:19 pmYou’d understand better if you had some hands on experience. If I explained over the internet it wouldn’t be the same.
Comment by Makarios — August 23, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
Well, I don’t need a life-like experience, Mr Pee. You’re good with words, go ahead. I’m waiting.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:19 pmComment by RUCerious — August 23, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
I already told you, that poll is crap.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:19 pmCould you enlighten us as to the flaws you see in it?
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:20 pmRe: post #9
Could you enlighten us as to the flaws you see in it?
Bush’s numbers are too high.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:21 pmtrueblue — FB
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:21 pmCould you enlighten us as to the flaws you see in it?
Re: post #9
Comment by RUCerious — August 23, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
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All the numbers are too high, except for the “neither” option. Even you libs know that.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:24 pmttessttt
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:25 pmAttention all Bush trolls. Due to the crackdown on immigrants the corporate masters are short on lettuce pickers and coal miners.
Please report to your nearest Halliburton Relocation and Re-education Camp for new assignments.
-GSD
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:25 pmArchbishop Makarios? I heard you were dead.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:27 pmComment by Snake Plisken — August 23, 2007 @ 9:27 pm
That’s a different dude.
(by the way, nice job saving LA)
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:29 pmwhy bother? why bother? was it not only approx 2 years ago the Sego mine tragedy happened and what changed, what changed? This slime bucket will get a slap on the wrist, if that much., and give another
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:30 pminfomercial about the importance of coal over alternative energies to save this dying planet, which is dying in more way than one. I am at the point of saying, “yeah, right, whatever” ….go have your hearing. Don’t forget to break for lunch.
Sorry, missed that comment. Put my patch on the wrong eye again.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:31 pmThis is Ted Frank
(prepare yourself for ugly reichwing douchebag)
Ted Frank (a.k.a. THF) Has Altered the ‘SiCKO’ Wikipedia Page 96 Times
http://www.michaelmoore.com/
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:33 pmResponse to # 16, : correct, but let’s not forget to go to bed early the night before Labor Day, as they may open the shopping malls extra early, like 1:00 a.m., so we can GO SHOPPING at WALMART’S before we have the cookout. That’ll be fun! :(
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:33 pmYer doin’ a heckuva job Murray.
-The Deshider
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:33 pmSaving LA? No Jesus saves LA, and I cleared the rebound.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:34 pmAll the numbers are too high, except for the “neither†option. Even you libs know that.
Comment by Makarios — August 23, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
OK, read along with us.
“Do you have more confidence in President Bush or in the Democrats in Congress to deal with the major issues facing the country today?â€
They are asking the respondents which one they have more confidence in
Bush got 35% having more confidence in him, and the Dem Congress got 48%.
I’ll admit that 3% saying both is wierd, but neither = and don’t know = 2, all total up to 100%, so explain how the number are too high?>???
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:35 pmComment by RUCerious — August 23, 2007 @ 9:35 pm
In reality, more people would say neither.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:41 pmMurray ought to be rooting for truffles
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:41 pmSo the 500 adults they interviewed are all wrong and you’re right?
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:46 pmMr Pee,
You still haven’t explained your squirting episode…..
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:47 pmMakarios only considers polls valid that confirm his current beliefs.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:47 pmCan you tell me which of the 500 were supposed to say neither, instead of choosing Bush or the Congress>?
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:48 pmCNN would also like to interview you on this. Go down to their Atlanta HQ and ask to rebut their poll on national news.
Oh, and BTW, how was your fake flight to Austin Tx last wekeend?
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:51 pmWas the fake landing too rough? Was there fake turbulence?
Did it interefere with your fake wifi on your fake notebook?
I’m all for hearings if they result in any action being taken. Thus far, however, we have had a zillion hearings into the wrong doing of the Bushies but not one of those bastards has paid a fine or spent a second in jail. So whats the point? The owner of this mine is well known for not caring an iota for worker safety. And the slob who is in charge of the Mine Safety agency managed mines that had 2 times the normal number of safety violations. Just what exactly will come out of the hearings? More evidence of how corrupt and inept the Bush Administration is and remains, yet not a damned thing will change. So what is the point?
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:51 pmYa know Mak, if you need to emulate crazy religious figures, Rasputin was a monk…Just sayin.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:52 pmIn reality, more people would say neither.
Comment by Makarios — August 23, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
In reality, you should douche more often.
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:53 pmSo the 500 adults they interviewed are all wrong and you’re right?
Comment by RUCerious — August 23, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
Is that a question?
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:05 pmt e s t.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:09 pmyour test came through, mak.
now, why should anyone care?
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:12 pmnow, why should anyone care?
Comment by alp3 — August 23, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
About what?
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:13 pmThe collapse of the mine doesn’t provide disproof that the private sector, when left to its own devices, will provide better wages and a safer work environment than it would under govt regulation.
I do believe in fairies. I do, I do, I do.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:14 pmsay, mak.
i’d like to know. why does a little bopper like yourself feel
that your chickenhawk stance has a smidgen of validity, while
you’re too young to fight your own battles.
tell me, p … what gives you your gusto?
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:17 pmComment by alp3 — August 23, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
Are you even human?
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:19 pmanswer the question, little one.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:20 pmwhat gives you your gusto?
Comment by alp3 — August 23, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
Cheetos and Red Bull.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:22 pmnoted.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:25 pmWhat really caused the mine to collapse?
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:05 pmThe hearings on the Utah mine collapse can serve a purpose, if the criminality of Bob Murray is exposed and his company de-licensed. If nothing is done to him, then the entire Congress would be wise to all commit suicide in the Crandall Canyon Mine together. The mountain would crush them all to death.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:10 pmWhat really caused the mine to collapse?
Comment by Tracy — August 23, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
Unsafe mining practices, and an unstable mountain.
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:29 pmAlthough I feel for the families and all involved I hope that this tragedy does not in anyway encourage any increase in mountain top removal mining.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:11 ambob Murray’s not the problem. The problem is MSHA who allowed him to operate.
The previous mine owner had not even attempted to mine in the corridor where this collapse occurred because the owner thought it was too dangerous. But MSHA approved a plan previously rejected by the owners as too dangerous. What does that tell you about the agency that is supposed to be in charge of safety, rejecting a plan rejected by owners whose main priority is making money.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:19 pmIt all depends on who is in charge,,,
if you got a democrat in the white house then,,, any worker accident or industrial mishap is “just an accident”..
on the other hand,,, if you got the republican,,, well then,,, you know what happens…
The AFL/CIO has no hand in how any of this plays out…YEP
August 26th, 2007 at 12:48 am