Kristol: Let’s ‘Stretch Our Army And Marines’ For ‘Another Year Or So’ In Iraq
Kristol: Let’s ‘Stretch Our Army And Marines’ For ‘Another Year Or So’ In Iraq
On Fox News this morning, Weekly Standard editor William Kristol said that the escalation in Iraq should be extended at least “another six months” or even “another year or so.” “Is the cost of losing in Iraq great enough that we need to stretch our Army and Marines for another year or so,” asked Kristol rhetorically. “I think the President’s gonna make that decision.”
Kristol also attempted to spin the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) released yesterday, which described a failure of the escalation to successfully provide sufficient security for Iraqis, heralding it as proof that “the surge clearly is working” and that current troop levels should be maintained for “another six months or so.” Watch it:
Kristol’s hawkish desire to “stretch our Army and Marines” for “another year or so” is in direct contradiction to the recommendations of the Joint Chiefs Of Staff, whose outgoing chairman, Gen. Peter Pace, “is likely to convey concerns by the Joint Chiefs that keeping well in excess of 100,000 troops in Iraq through 2008 will severely strain the military.”
But disregarding the views of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is nothing new for Kristol. In December 2006, when the Bush administration began arguing for the current troop escalation, the Joint Chiefs unanimously disagreed with the strategy. For his part, Kristol has never served in the military and was one of the most cocksure voices pushing for the current escalation strategy.
Additionally, Kristol’s interpretation of the NIE is dishonest. While the report observed some “measurable but uneven improvements” in Iraq’s security situation, it also cautioned that violence will remain high, the national government will become more “precarious” and the refugee crisis will continue to worsen due to sectarian violence. Hardly a situation that can be deemed as “clearly working.”
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August 24th, 2007 at 11:43 amha ha ha ha , this guys a real prick
August 24th, 2007 at 11:43 amIf I was in the military I would be pissed that the administration continues to take the word of outside sources rather than the opinion of their generals and soldiers. Isn’t that the true meaning of support the troops?
August 24th, 2007 at 11:45 amAnybody read the Op-Ed in the New York Times from the 82nd Airborne?
August 24th, 2007 at 11:46 amHe knows by late next year R’s will be able to bash D’s for cut-and-running again. And D’s will sit by and let it happen.
August 24th, 2007 at 11:47 amIs the military covenant broken?
The Guardian reports that there is growing anger among the forces that the Military Covenant, which says soldiers should expect fair treatment from the state for putting their lives in danger, is not being upheld.
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/ news/ archives/ 2007/ 08/ 15/ is_the_military_covenant_broken.html
August 24th, 2007 at 11:47 amThe military covenant states that while a soldier will put his life on the line for his country , he expects his fellow countrymen to look out for the best of his interests
And we are failing that Covenant Big time
28, 000 soldiers wounded and being thrown out from the hospitals
August 24th, 2007 at 11:50 amI hear from military people all the time about how noble and effective and successful our efforts in Iraq are. We should listen to them equally if we are going to listen to the naysayers.
We simply cannot abandon Iraq. And we won’t, regardless of who is elected President, and regardless of which party controls congress. That much has already been proven.
The Democrats may waffle, and spew a lot of hot air, to get (re-)elected, but when the rubber meets the road, we won’t be leaving Iraq any time soon.
August 24th, 2007 at 11:50 amHow the Military Covenant is totally failing troops
Gillan’s story that refers to the case of a civilian typist with the RAF receiving a payment of £484,000 after injuring her thumb at work “while a 23-year-old paratrooper, Ben Parkinson, who will need care for the rest of his life after a serious landmine injury, will be given £152,150″.
August 24th, 2007 at 11:53 amI think stretching Kristol’s bottom lip up over his head and tucking it into his a$$crack is a better strategy.
August 24th, 2007 at 11:54 amI hear from military people all the time about how noble and effective and successful our efforts in Iraq are. We should listen to them equally if we are going to listen to the naysayers.
-o bigfoot
some people say…
August 24th, 2007 at 11:55 am“The Democrats may waffle, and spew a lot of hot air, to get (re-)elected, but when the rubber meets the road, we won’t be leaving Iraq any time soon.”
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Next spring at the latest.
Republicans in Congress and running for pres. can’t afford to have the biggest mistake in US political history hanging around their necks just before an election.
August 24th, 2007 at 11:55 amis it wrong to want to beat this guy with a piece of rebar until i get tired?
August 24th, 2007 at 11:57 amIn addition to the time period known as Friedman Units, I think we should add Supplemental Units Created by Kristol Militarily Empty
August 24th, 2007 at 11:57 amThe Democrats may waffle, and spew a lot of hot air, to get (re-)elected, but when the rubber meets the road, we won’t be leaving Iraq any time soon.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 11:50 am
“”we” won’t be leaving Iraq any time soon”
August 24th, 2007 at 11:58 am“WE”? are you in Iraq? Or just another chickenhawk repuke who thinks typing pro-war bs from your mother’s basement counts as fighting the good fight?
Is it wrong to want to beat the living crap out of this guy with a piece of rebar?
August 24th, 2007 at 11:58 amis it wrong to want to beat this guy with a piece of rebar until i get tired?
Not at all , it me with the problem
I want to cut his D()ck off and ram it down his throat
August 24th, 2007 at 12:00 pmI can’t afford to go to college because I’m too stupid. I therefore cannot attain any scholarship. It’s all Bush’s fault.
I drive a beat-up car, and it broke down this morning. It’s all Bush’s fault.
This list will continue, as many more mistakes in my life are George W. Bush’s fault.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:00 pmComment by A Patriot Acting — August 24, 2007 @ 11:58 am
Poor baby had to read the word “WE.”
It’s all Bush’s fault.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:01 pmO. Bigfoot why dont you type your stuff into aljazeera.com you could turn public opinion against America far faster than Bush
August 24th, 2007 at 12:02 pmWhat is the percentage of estimated Al Qaeda fighters in Iraq compared to the thousands of sectarian insurgents? Haven’t the Generals themselves said it’s about 1% of the total number of guerrilla fighters? So we’re supposed to stay in Iraq forever, depleting the national treasury and the lives of our soldiers for a handful of foreign fighters who would be easily dealt with by the Iraqi authorities themselves once they sort out their own civil war?
Or are we really in Iraq for oil and Israel and that’s what Mr. Kristol is truly all about?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:02 pmI actually have to type this sentence. It’s all Bush’s fault.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:02 pmThis list will continue, as many more mistakes in my life are George W. Bush’s fault.
Comment by Blame Bush
Well, you voted for him, so suck it up, and soldier on, little chickenhawk.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:02 pmThis list will continue, as many more mistakes in my life are George W. Bush’s fault.
Comment by Blame Bush — August 24, 2007 @ 12:00 pm
Irrational, meaningless comment. No facts, no position. Just nonsense.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:03 pmis it wrong to want to beat this guy with a piece of rebar until i get tired?
Comment by Hubris Sonic — August 24, 2007 @ 11:57 am
yes, it is wrong.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:04 pmbeing tired is a lame excuse for stopping. don’t “beat and run”!
Irrational, meaningless comment. No facts, no position. Just nonsense.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 24, 2007 @ 12:03 pm
And FoxNews wonders why their “funny” news show was a bust. You see, this troll is posting what passes for “humor” among the neocons. Har har.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:05 pmA couple of questions for all the war-loving neo-cons and chickenhawks:
1. Would you say there is some point at which a soldier’s combat deployment should end? I mean, is there a limit to the amount of time a soldier can be on the battlefield, after which he is no longer effective? A point in time after which he becomes a danger to himself and others?
2. If you answer “yes”, what would that length of time be? And how would you know what it should be, being the cowardly little sh*t-talker that you are?
3. If you answer “no”, are you f*cking retarded?!!
August 24th, 2007 at 12:05 pmComment by barfly — August 24, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
Where do you get that I voted for such a meanie pants? I am a liberal just like you. I love you. Please don’t give more power to the trolls.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:06 pm“O. Bigfoot why dont you type your stuff into aljazeera.com you could turn public opinion against America far faster than Bush
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 24, 2007 @ 12:02 pm”
What, you mean this ISN’T aljazeera.com? Well heck…
August 24th, 2007 at 12:06 pmComment by Blame Bush
You’re not fooling anyone, P.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:07 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 24, 2007 @ 12:03 pm
I see. One of the Republicanoids, being you, who wastes their time hating on victims of George W. Bush’s executive reign.
I almost feel sorry for you, troll.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:07 pmThe Kristol Kid lies again.
Any troop extension should have Billy Boy leading the charge.
Sniveling, self-absorbed, sniping strawman = Billy ‘the kid’ Kristol
August 24th, 2007 at 12:09 pmComment by gummitch — August 24, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
I know, right. Fox News….eeww. Their high ratings make my stomach turn.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:09 pmDoes anyone have any idea what business interests Kristol is tied to? He’s got to be making money off of Iraq in ways beside his bloated “pundit” salary.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:09 pmWhy does any one listen to this guy? Why doesn’t he go to Iraq for 15 months and then maybe he would have some credibility.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:09 pmI wonder what everyone’s excuse will be when the summer lull (though the most violent summer yet) is over and the killing goes through the roof again. Will they talk about “measurable progress on the security front”? I’m guessing they will.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:10 pmHe was on Today this morning, too. Same old BS: Another six months, another six months, another six months, etc., etc., etc.
When will someone in the MSM grow a pair of cajones and call these guys on this??? The rolling six month extenstion will NEVER end!
August 24th, 2007 at 12:10 pmI love how Fox “News” references the Weakly Standard as an independent source even though Rupert Murdoch owns both of them.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:10 pmComment by barfly — August 24, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
I blame Bush for being turned down for a loan.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:10 pm“Next spring at the latest.
Republicans in Congress and running for pres. can’t afford to have the biggest mistake in US political history hanging around their necks just before an election.
Comment by barfly — August 24, 2007 @ 11:55 am”
Uh-huh. And your Democrats said it was going to be this past spring at the latest.
By next spring, our continued success in Iraq will be well documented, whether you choose to believe it or not is up to you.
There will be no mood in either party to quit while we are ahead. Turning tail while winning will not win elections.
The front-runners of both parties have already pledged to continue the fight.
Watch, and learn.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:10 pmSure, Straussian/Fascist Kristol wants the military to be stretched out into non-existence just as he wants to destroy this democracy once and for all. This man is madness and evil - all rolled into one. He needs psychiatric intervention and soon!
August 24th, 2007 at 12:11 pmWhy won’t this irrelevant A$$Klown just STF up!!!
Luckily that logo on the bottom left of the screen is all you need to know about how rediculous this Chickenhawk NeoCon is!
He needs to move to Tel Aviv and take his butt-hole buddy Joe L with him.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:11 pmComment by Vet — August 24, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
You can always blame bush. It works for me! Makes me feel sorry for myself in no time.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:11 pmJust google William Kristol and see his involvement in PNAC (Project for a new american century) and their composition of the patriot act well in advance of 911….his grandfather (Irving Kristol) is dubbed “Grandfather of the Neocon Fascist Movement” aka: Bush regime.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:12 pmWho’s giving this moron any legitimate time on the air anyway? He’s nothing but a mentally ill windbag who is intent on driving this democracy into the ground to bring about the rise of a fascist dictatorship. Everyone knows his gig and is well onto this demented sicko.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:13 pmJust like we’ve all been saying… nothing will change until 1/20/09.
Of course that’s just a coincidence.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:13 pmthe military is already stretched to the breaking point. Why doesn’t Kristol enlist? I’d like to see him stretched a bit.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:14 pmI blame Bush for that human-rights-violating show, ‘To Catch a Predator.’
I don’t think I can forgive him for what he has caused our healthy nation. Running from the police used to be easy.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:14 pmWell O. Bigfoot, if you are right about staying in Iraq, you have some tough decisions ahead of you with 5 boys, the oldest being 14.
It’s easy to support Bush’s War when you don’t have a dog in the hunt, but would you really sacrifice your kid’s arms, legs, brain, life for Bush’s catastrophic mistake?
Please take that as a rhetorical question and don’t answer. You will of course respond here with some patriotic pap, but you might answer that to your wife.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:15 pmYou can always blame bush. It works for me! Makes me feel sorry for myself in no time.
Comment by Blame Bush — August 24, 2007 @ 12:11 pm
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I notice that you don’t address my question - you just spout garbage - which is because you have no answer.
Here’s an idea: Go visit your local Army recruiter and be the man you wish you were.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:17 pmBlame Bush
You’re right. We shouldn’t blame Bush for the war he started. We shouldn’t blame him for telling us there were WMDs when there weren’t. We shouldn’t blame him for leaving Osama bin Laden at Tora Bora and launching a war against a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and was not a threat to us. We shouldn’t blame Bush for all the lies he’s told. We shouldn’t blame Bush for all the people he’s responsible for killing.
We shouldn’t blame Bush for anything. He’s the Bubble Boy. He can do anything he wants. His daddy can give him a company to run and when it folds, he gets to keep lots of money. He can skip out on the draft. Daddy fixed that for him. He can even skip out on the Guard duty he signed up for. Can’t blame him for that. Can’t blame him for ignoring the warnings about 9/11 and the warnings about the levees in New Orleans. He’s not responsible for anything. He’s the president and can do anything he wants. But, if things go bad, he’s not responsible for it, because braindead turds like you want to keep him in his protective bubble.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:18 pm“Please take that as a rhetorical question and don’t answer. You will of course respond here with some patriotic pap, but you might answer that to your wife.
Comment by nanlichi — August 24, 2007 @ 12:15 pm”
Nothing rhetorical about it.
We already discussed in another thread here on TP about how my oldest (who is actually my wife’s son from her first marriage) is entering a Military Academy next year, just as his grandfather did.
This is with both his mother’s, and his father’s, blessing. And is being paid for by his grandparents.
In our home, and in our family, we support our country, our troops, and our President.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:18 pmIn our home, and in our family, we support our country, our troops, and our President.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
August 24th, 2007 at 12:20 pm————————-
It’s good to know you supported Pres. Clinton during all his scandals! I was worried you were a hypocrite!
Comment by Vet — August 24, 2007 @ 12:17 pm
What are you talking about? I was just giving you some wholesome advice, that’s all.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:20 pm“By next spring, our continued success in Iraq will be well documented, whether you choose to believe it or not is up to you.”
The current head of media liason is on C-Span right now, talking about the difficulties she’s experienced getting out the good news in Iraq - and given this chance to demonstrate the great successes “on the ground” that the traditional media just aren’t reporting, she gives the truly impressive example of ” the opening of a kebab stand, that wasn’t there the preceding week.”
Yup, I’m convinced.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:21 pmAnd how much military experience did Kristol accumulate in his life outside Fox Network Studios to make such assessments.
While soldiers are dying in Iraq,Kristol is looking to extend war time in Iraq..looking also to help Bush’s legacy of ‘Bring’em on’.
This is not the first time he and other Neocons claimed six more months are now needed to bring us close to victory.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:21 pmIm a retard and have nothing to say except
“Irrational, meaningless comment. No facts, no position. Just nonsense.”
Doesnt matter what the comment is thats all i have to say cause im retarded
August 24th, 2007 at 12:22 pmIn fact, just last night, our oldest came home from school yesterday and during the course of our after school conversation he asked me to please do him a favor: “Don’t vote for Bill Richardson.” (We live in New Mexico, if you didn’t already know that.)
I stated not to worry, I hadn’t yet, and didn’t plan on changing anything.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:23 pmIn our home, and in our family, we support our country, our troops, and our President.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
As we do in my home, except I respect the OFFICE of the President, not the clown currently codpiecing his way through his last lame duck term.
Being a Vietnam vet and having some basic intelligence, I have seen what bad leadership does and we now have even worse leadership then we did when we were in the Vietnam CLusterf@ck.
I just hope your child survivesphysically and mentally. But they might be long odds.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:25 pmI hear from military people all the time about how noble and effective and successful our efforts in Iraq are. We should listen to them equally if we are going to listen to the naysayers.
We simply cannot abandon Iraq. And we won’t, regardless of who is elected President, and regardless of which party controls congress. That much has already been proven.
The Democrats may waffle, and spew a lot of hot air, to get (re-)elected, but when the rubber meets the road, we won’t be leaving Iraq any time soon.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 11:50 am
you lie all the time.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:25 pm“It’s good to know you supported Pres. Clinton during all his scandals! I was worried you were a hypocrite!
Comment by Vet — August 24, 2007 @ 12:20 pm”
Nahh..during the Clinton Presidency, Charlton Heston was my President.
Actually, I did support Clinton’s Welfare Reform, and maybe one or two other things. But certainly didn’t support his military excercises on U.S. soil which resulted in the slaughter at Ruby Ridge and Waco. Nor Clinton’s stormtroopers stealing kids and sending them to Cuba.
I havn’t had to worry about President Bush attacking our own people. He knows who the enemy is.
And I havn’t had to worry about President Bush’s personal indescretions, as there havn’t been any.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:27 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 24, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
I blame Bush for you blaming Bush out of the bush.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:27 pmWhat, you mean this ISN’T aljazeera.com? Well heck…
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 12:06 pm
Usually it’s up to us to demonstrate your level of ignorance. Now you’ve taken that job on y8ourself. Are you still sending money to Al Qaeda as well?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:29 pm“you lie all the time.
Comment by ronjazz — August 24, 2007 @ 12:25 pm”
And here’s ronjazz! Which his illuminating commentary! Welcome back, ronjazz! How’s your mother this morning?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:29 pmComment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 12:27 pm
How could you possible achieve anything in life without blaming Bush?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:30 pmAnd I havn’t had to worry about President Bush’s personal indescretions, as there havn’t been any.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 12:27 pm
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Could your IQ be any lower???
Bush LIED in order to launch an illegal war, but God forbid he cheats on his wife!!! Nice priorities.
WHY ARE YOU STILL ONLINE??? GO TO YOUR RECRUITER AND SIGN UP - BE THE MAN YOU WISH YOU WERE!!!
August 24th, 2007 at 12:30 pmSorry Bush you have failed to bring security to the Iraqi people after all that was the idea of the Surge
Get out , you cant even bring electricity or water to them
August 24th, 2007 at 12:30 pmThe front-runners of both parties have already pledged to continue the fight.
Watch, and learn.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
more lies. what a surprise.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:31 pm>we won’t be leaving Iraq any time soon.
Good to see Bigtwat is happy to give as many american lives as necessary to ensure that Iraqis have the right to live in a country that “has no law that contradicts islam”.
Good to see that Bigtwat is happy to give as many american lives as necessary to ensure that Iraqis have the right to a pro-iranian, pro-syrian government that supports and funds groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
Good to hear that Bigtwat supports Al-Maliki because that is the leader the Iraqi democracy chose.
Because thats what iraqis having the freedom to choose is all about, right Bigtwat?
(waiting for you to explain to me how we can avoid all these things happeneing if we just apply enough military force)
August 24th, 2007 at 12:31 pmIn our home, and in our family, we support our country, our troops, and our President.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
In my home and my family, we support our country, our troops and the Constitution. We also recognize that, for much of our nation’s history, domestic and foreign policy has been formulated to serve the needs of the wealthy and powerful and quite often does little to serve the needs of the rest of us.
We also recognize that a wise person learns from one’s mistakes and knows when it’s idiocy to throw good money after bad.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:31 pmI thought Bill Kristol was pretty funny when he played that homosexual character in the sitcom SOAP. I see he’s still doing outrageous comedy routines.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:32 pmCrystal can’t spend 1 day in Iraq, as a Soldier. But sits in a
August 24th, 2007 at 12:32 pmcushy office, advising the poor Troops that are already burnt
out to spend yet another year with a bullseye painted on
their backs. Pathetic read area swine. So typical of republicans.
Christ these people make you want to vomit.
Faiz and Amanda must be out to lunch.
I blame Bush.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:32 pmAfter seeing this guy on the daily show again, it’s clear that he doesn’t really believe the garbage that comes out of his mouth.
His stances on these issues are nothing but a paycheck. It’s his job to be an ass. What I can’t understand is why he’s taken seriously any network other than FOX. It seems that as long as you take the pro-war position, no matter how assinine your statements are, you’ll always be taken ’seriously’.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:34 pmComment by Vet — August 24, 2007 @ 12:30 pm
Bush lied…Frence fries are too fried….Merv Griffin died…I pour Coca-Cola on termites.
I blame Bush.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:34 pmWe already discussed in another thread here on TP about how my oldest (who is actually my wife’s son from her first marriage) is entering a Military Academy next year, just as his grandfather did.
This is with both his mother’s, and his father’s, blessing. And is being paid for by his grandparents.
In our home, and in our family, we support our country, our troops, and our President.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
No you don’t. You sacrifice your wife’s son so that you don’t have to actually do anything about your fake cause and your phony patriotism. Anybody that sends their kid into the military during a Republican administration is just sending them to enrich the aleady bloated pigs at the trough. Shame on you. Not that you have a conscience.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:34 pmWhat a dick. Kristol is the typical neo-con coward. pretty brave with other peoples lives.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:36 pm>In my home and my family, we support our country, our troops and the >Constitution.
Can you envision any situation where supporting one of these three things would not be supporting one or more of the others?
yes or no?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:38 pmI stated not to worry, I hadn’t yet, and didn’t plan on changing anything.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 12:23 pm
you have the best drugs in New Mexico. Your mother must have sampled all of them when she was pregnant with you.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:38 pmWhat a dick. Kristol is the typical neo-con coward. pretty brave with other peoples lives.
Comment by Jim — August 24, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
exactly like bigmouth the sissy.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:39 pm“more lies. what a surprise.
Comment by ronjazz — August 24, 2007 @ 12:31 pm”
Yup, I’m a liar, just like these guys:
http://kcindymedia.org/ newswire/ display/ 73368/ index.php
August 24th, 2007 at 12:41 pm>is entering a Military Academy next year, just as his grandfather did.
all this flaghumping military namedropping is sounding suspiciously familiar..
August 24th, 2007 at 12:42 pmmethead, is that you?
Comment by ronjazz — August 24, 2007 @ 12:34 pm
If I stop blaming Bush, could you seriously shut up? Accusing parents of “sending their kid to a military academy for the sake of a Republican administration” makes one classified as the “loony type,” wouldn’t you agree?
I blame Bush for bringing out your natural political-hackish state.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:43 pmComment by The High Road into the Null Anus of God — August 24, 2007
I blame Bush for causing you to feel comfortable in revealing your terrorist-humping state of mind.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:44 pmAnd the saddest part regarding the Today show appearance is concerned, is that he followed the call by Senator Warner for 5,000 troops to be withdrawn by Christmas — but of course he wouldn’t vote to force any timelines on Bush.
So the Today show has Warner as a starting point — a Senator who occasionally sees the disaster that is Iraq, but somehow can’t bring himself to vote for a real change — and then has to balance that radical call for 5,000 troops to be withdrawn by the “Serious Person” Kristol.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:44 pmBlame Bush I’m sure you were as deeply troubled by the endless investigations of clinton’s christmas card list and sex life, right?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:45 pm“you have the best drugs in New Mexico. Your mother must have sampled all of them when she was pregnant with you.
Comment by ronjazz — August 24, 2007 @ 12:38 pm”
More wonderful and relevant commentary by that fine liberal representative, ronjazz!
Actually, my mother did grow up in the 1960’s, so she may have sampled of the era, however, she’s never lived in New Mexico.
I suggest either knowing of what you speak, or keeping silent. Then you don’t show your ignorance uduly.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:48 pm>in revealing your terrorist-humping state of mind.
ah, I hate bush to therefore I love terrorists, right?
my enemies enemy is my friend,right?
Saddam hated our enemy Iran so therefore he was our friend, right?
how did that work out for you?
maybe you could answer some of my questions or encourage your cellmate Bigtwat to do so instead of simply hurling baseless allegations that everyone that hates bush loves terrorists..
August 24th, 2007 at 12:49 pmeverybody’s talking at me,I can’t hear a word they say,just the echos in my mind.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:52 pmWell the GOP/Oil Compaines are hoping that they will have secured the OIL appropriations by then. It’s about power and greed, plus they truly want to bomb Iran, and if Iran fights back the GOP + Lieberman need troops there at the border.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:53 pmyou didnt answer so I’ll ask again:
>In my home and my family, we support our country, our troops and the >Constitution.
Can you envision any situation where supporting one of these three things would not be supporting one or more of the others?
yes or no?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:53 pmComment by The High Road into the Null Anus of God — August 24, 2007
I was deeply troubled. To me, defending Bill Clinton’s humping life was the only thing I could defend about his presidency. For that, I somehow blamed Bush (while he was Governor).
I am for the right of presidents (to date, only Bill has accepted) to hump 3+ times-per-day in the Oval office, for them to redefine the presidential salary into a “nymphodential salary,” because that’s the only thing they should do with their time — hump and think about humping sweatily.
I blame Bush.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:54 pmI hate bush to therefore I love terrorists, right?
Pfft. Bush has been the best thing that ever happened to international terrorism.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:54 pm.
we support our country, our troops and the Constitution
Well, lessee: the country wants to end the war, the troops’ lives are being pissed away with nothing to show for it, and Bush keeps shredding the constitution.
So, you’re voting for Obama, I presume?
August 24th, 2007 at 12:55 pm.
“No you don’t. You sacrifice your wife’s son so that you don’t have to actually do anything about your fake cause and your phony patriotism. Anybody that sends their kid into the military during a Republican administration is just sending them to enrich the aleady bloated pigs at the trough. Shame on you. Not that you have a conscience.
Comment by ronjazz — August 24, 2007 @ 12:34 pm”
So I take it you would have supported my sons entry into the military had it been ordered by a Democrat…ala’ Korea or Viet Nam? Interesting.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:56 pmThat mofo is always cheap with other people’s lives.
August 24th, 2007 at 12:59 pmComment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
I blame Bush for not following the directive of “Ronald Jazzera”, to have Ted Kennedy nominate your stepson to his military academy, with an attachment your son would sign — Pledge A-6, Providing aid to Al-Qaeda, later to blame Bush for democrat stupidity.
I blame Bush for EVERYTHING. Progressive patriotism defined — Agree with EVERYTHING WE SAY, or else you are guilty of treason.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:02 pm>I was deeply troubled.
Yeah uhhh huhh.. im suuuuure you were…..”we know where the weapons are”…”i was deeply troubled that clinton was impeached over lying under oath about the earthshattering matter of a blowjob”
wish we could just get bush or cheney under oath about ANYTHING.. for people who claim to be religious, they are awfully phobic about putting their hand on a bible and swearing to tell the truth..
August 24th, 2007 at 1:03 pmSo Kristol things that another 600 to 1000 deaths is worth what? Does he really think that the Iraqi’s will have a functioning government in 6 to 12 months. What is this guy smoking? I would like to try some of it.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:05 pm#60
August 24th, 2007 at 1:06 pmRuby Ridge happened under Bush 1.
Waco happened because an idiot who thought he was god decided to burn himself and his followers up.
Sending a kid back to live with his father seemed like the right thing to do. I guess you disagree with that, but that’s all that was about.
Bigtwat’s logic : Supporting your leaders = supporting your country = supporting your Constitution.
There is no distinction in his mind. Mindsets like these are the type that let to things like the holocaust… the king can do no wrong..
August 24th, 2007 at 1:07 pmBaghdad Bill…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:13 pmSupporting your leaders = supporting your country = supporting your Constitution
This is exactly right. If you knew what the meaning of “constitution” is, then you wouldn’t sound so ignorant.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:15 pmThis is exactly right. If you knew what the meaning of “constitution†is, then you wouldn’t sound so ignorant.
Every Republican spouts that crap until a Democrat is in office. Then it’s their right to do the opposite & question the President. What a crock of shit. Given all of the f*ckups that have happened in the last 6 years it’s mutually exclusive to support your country & support GWB.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:19 pmLet’s stretch Kristol out on a rack for a year or so, then finish it up with a hearty round of waterboarding.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:20 pmNot only does the military need to stay for another year or so, but they WILL stay for another year or so.
Dems and Reps already agree on that one.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:23 pmHow many of our troops are fluent Arabic speakers?
How many officers?
How many officers in charge of field operations are dependent upon Iraqi interpreters in order to know what’s going on?
How can Americans pacify a nation in which they can’t carry on an ordinary conversation?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:24 pmHow can we determine who our allies are if we can’t understand what they’re saying?
Americans will be played for chumps unless this changes. And it won’t.
Comment by pbg — August 24, 2007 @ 1:24 pm
August 24th, 2007 at 1:27 pmTypical Lefto-Defeatist Negative-Nancy
Let this m/f’r sign up and we will stretch him in Iraq.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:29 pmAmericans will be played for chumps unless this changes. And it won’t.
Comment by pbg — August 24, 2007 @ 1:24 pm
America already is! Go oversoeas and see the reaction when they find out you are an American. They just can’t believe this country has sunk to such a low level and that Commander Codpiece was RE-elected!
They feel sorry for those of us who have to live under this NeoCon A$$Klown Flying Circus .. trouble is, it also impacts the rest of the world as well.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:31 pmWhy does anybody even listen to William Kristol on military matters? Does he have some kind of military expertise I’m not aware of?
People who DO have military expertise are saying that our military is currently about as stretched as it can go. There comes a point where the horse is running as fast as it can go, and it won’t get any faster no matter how much you whip it.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:36 pmIt’s one thing for posters on a site like this to have not served in the military. But how can anyone justify the long list of architects of this war who would not stand up & fight for their country when their country called & they were fit for combat? Can any Rep troll on this board defend that fact that Bush, Cheney, Rove, Wolfowitz, Ashcroft & a whole host of the other loons (Delay, Frist etc) never served in the U.S. military? Kristol did nothing either but he’s the biggest chickenhawk going. So by all means toss your limp verbal grenades but spend at least a second and come up with a reason why all of these folks with hardons for war never served.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:38 pmKarma says…
…Baghdad Bill…
…deserves to be…
…collateral damage…
August 24th, 2007 at 1:38 pmThis is your brain on ‘Kristol math’
August 24th, 2007 at 1:40 pmWhy does anybody even listen to William Kristol on military matters? Does he have some kind of military expertise I’m not aware of?
People who DO have military expertise are saying that our military is currently about as stretched as it can go. There comes a point where the horse is running as fast as it can go, and it won’t get any faster no matter how much you whip it.
Comment by missmolly — August 24, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
In response to your first point, it is because the entire run-up to the invasion and the continuing occupation is controlled by the AEI, PNAC and the rest of the NeoCon Cabal. Rove and Darth sold the Repug soul to that group to get elected.
As to the last part, THEY DON”T CARE! When you are at the table playing with other people’s money (and lives) IT DOESN’T MATTER!!! Just roll them bones and keep doubling up on the bet. HOO RAA!!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:41 pmKristol’s eyebrows really help him look all nice and warm and fuzzy. Someone should photoshop Newt’s eyebrows onto Kristol Meth to more accurately portray the bloodthirsty man within.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:45 pmHow many of our troops are fluent Arabic speakers?
How many officers?
How many officers in charge of field operations are dependent upon Iraqi interpreters in order to know what’s going on?
Comment by pbg — August 24, 2007 @ 1:24 pm
Arabic is really hard, ok? All idafa structures and triconsonant roots and patterned measures and conjugated adjectives and implied vowelling and nuanced word meanings that don’t translate to English. And THEN once you know the written language you have to learn Iraqi dialect which has a completely different grammar and vocabulary and pronunciation. Crazy talk!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:46 pm> This is your brain on ‘Kristol math’
Damn! Pea-sized! What now?
Let’s have a hit of Crack Cheney and get it on with Iran, already.
If the Iranian Elite Schutzstaffel is declared a “terro organization”, will the FBI go down to Manhattan and arrest the Iranian delegation for being in cahoots with a “terrorist organization”?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:49 pmArabic is really hard, ok?
Absolutely. Killing em is much easier than learning anything about their language or culture.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:51 pmWeren’t there some homosexuals in the military that spoke Arabic. Where’d they go?
August 24th, 2007 at 1:51 pmKristol: Let’s ‘Stretch Our Army And Marines’ For ‘Another Year Or So’ In Iraq
Kristol Meth should “stretch” his neck.
August 24th, 2007 at 1:53 pmAbsolutely. Killing em is much easier than learning anything about their language or culture.
Comment by RUCerious — August 24, 2007 @ 1:51 pm
Just like in Vietnam. Made them learn OUR language and had to destroy their villages to save them.
Dubya has finally got that part of his comparison right!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:53 pmYou know, if Kristol wants to stretch our army another year, there is nothing preventing he and his children from joining up and helping out beings the army is at the breaking point.. I would like like to see him put his money where his mouth is. He would never do it. He is a coward who talks big. He wants to push for the war as long as it doesn’t touch him personally. I wonder what ‘benefits’ he is receiving for pushing for this war without end..?
August 24th, 2007 at 2:05 pmThe nerve of this twisted PNAC author…Why is it he is too good to serve but has no reservations in suggesting others to serve extended multiple torturous duties? To serve in this evil illegal massacre/occupation HE helped write up?
You go to Iraq Kristol, you perverted worthless vial evil doer.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:25 pmIn the last 6 years, what has Kristol been right about? The only thing I can say he’s been right about is the fact they keep getting another Friendman unit to prolong this mess.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:28 pmLook! Isn’t there anybody else in this country besides me who sees that we are engaged in a global conflict with the Islamic Radicals who amount to 100,000,000-150,000,000 people plus many of the moderates who just don’t want to say what they really believe.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:35 pmIraq is only a part of this problem which also includes Darfur and the world-wide immigration problems with Islamic immigrants.
Islam wants to regain the glories of their past.
Until we start talking about the total picture in this war, we are not facing reality.
FIX YOUR EFFING SITE TP!
August 24th, 2007 at 2:44 pm#125, I’m afraid your zero button is stuck. It seems to type two every time you push it.
That, or you’re incredibly ignorant. Because the number of violent international Islamists not primarily motivated by nationalist or anticolonial impulses numbers in the low thousands, not hundreds of millions.
August 24th, 2007 at 2:45 pmIn our home, and in our family, we support our country, our troops, and our President.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 24, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
translation - the Bigfoots are lemmings.
August 24th, 2007 at 3:06 pmIn our home, and in our family, we support our country, our troops, and our President.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Then you do not support the constitution… and if you support this so called president then you surly do not support the troops
August 24th, 2007 at 3:37 pmLet’s give Kristolmeth a little test. Let’s put a rifle in his hands and put him on the Iraqi front lines. Our troops will stay there (behind him) as long as he’s willing to….deal? Methinks that “6 months” would vaporize into “GET ME OUT OF HERE!!” in less than an hour.
August 24th, 2007 at 3:53 pmThese people are like gambling addicts playing with other people’s money. They’ve been sitting at the same table for 4 years and they haven’t won a single hand. But they don’t care because they don’t have to sacrifice anything of their own.
August 24th, 2007 at 4:00 pmLividLib, you hit another tape-measure shot off Bigfoot, into the upper deck. Excellent!
August 24th, 2007 at 4:14 pmPUKE
August 24th, 2007 at 7:24 pmBigfoot @ 12:18 - “In our home, and in our family, we support our country, our troops, and our President.”
Bigfoot, 10 minutes later - “during the Clinton Presidency, Charlton Heston was my President”
Bigfoot, you are a frickin jackass.
August 24th, 2007 at 7:49 pmMakarios: “Supporting your leaders = supporting your country = supporting your Constitution
This is exactly right. If you knew what the meaning of “constitution†is, then you wouldn’t sound so ignorant.”
Why does it always seem as if the most moronic of posters are the quickest to call others ignorant? Here’s a history lesson for you from one of our greatest republican presidents:
“To announce there must be no criticism of the President, and to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, it is morally treasonous to the American public.â€
– President Theodore Roosevelt
August 24th, 2007 at 7:54 pmI am a Marine vet and the mother two kids serving. I have a son in the Marines who will be headed back to Iraq in September. You have no idea how much this pisses me off to hear this wingnut motherf*cker say this stuff. These people have absolutely no soul. I can’t even stand this anymore! It’s enough that I am already freaking out that he is going back but to hear this kind of warmongering, tasteless crap coming from this troll is too much.
August 24th, 2007 at 8:59 pmHere’s a thought; Let’s stretch Kristol…..on the rack. The Spanish Inquisition did have some good ideas. One good turn deserves another.
August 24th, 2007 at 9:27 pmWilliam Kristol is spot on. We are slowly but surely turning the tide. We should do whatever it takes to achieve a total unequivocal victory, decisively defeating al-qaeda, Iran and Syria and completely marginalizing their domestic enablers in Congress.
August 24th, 2007 at 10:01 pmWilliam Kristol is spot on. We are slowly but surely turning the tide. We should do whatever it takes to achieve a total unequivocal victory, decisively defeating al-qaeda, Iran and Syria and completely marginalizing their domestic enablers in Congress.
Comment by nabalzbbfr — August 24, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
With what Army? We are already stretched too thin. So you’re saying there should be a draft? Why haven’t you signed up yet? Decisively defeating Iran and Syria, that would mean invading and occupying both countries. Yea, that will realllllllllly get the Arabs on are side, they will just love it. Domestic Enablers in Congress? ummm, who gave Congress to the democrats? The american people! So americans are now terrorist enablers?
August 25th, 2007 at 2:31 amKristol is out of touch with the reality on the ground in Iraq. Our military is already being stretched to the point of breaking. It is unfair to the troops. Also giving a year more to a flawed policy will make no difference. The surge is likely to fail no matter how much time it gets.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:47 amIf Kristol had bothered to serve in combat he would not recommend putting our troops and their families through such hardship for a policy that has failed to deliver good results.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:48 amYou libtards can’t even read. It says right on the screen that the surge is working. What part of that don’t you understand?
:)
August 25th, 2007 at 10:58 amKristol hates people –how sad.
August 25th, 2007 at 1:50 pmIt is very easy for Kristol to blithly declare that the Army and Marines should stretch for six months to a year. He never served in the military and I doubt if any of his family or acquaintences have either. He further puts on as though he knows something about the military in deriding Sen Warner’s suggestion to pull back at least 5000 by Christmas, saying that Warner didn’t think it out and it would do harm to adjacent units.
Of course, Kristol doesn’t care about the troops, no matter what the JSC and senior officers are saying. Most of them are goyem, anyway. What does he care.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:52 pmYou Americans are unbeatable in straight warfare and that’s why only a megalomaniac like Saddam took you on. No regular army survives in an all-out guerillawar and that’s a simple, historically proven fact. You can’t win, surge or no surge, so pull out, as gracefully as possible…….
September 1st, 2007 at 3:37 amTo the hawks I would say: read this again in, say, five years?