Despite escalation, Iraqi deaths double.
Despite escalation, Iraqi deaths double.
The Iraqi death toll “from sectarian attacks around the country is running nearly double the pace from a year ago.” Compared to an average daily death toll of 33 in 2006, this year’s numbers indicate approximately 62 Iraqis have died war-related deaths each day this year. The AP reports that the recent bloodshed indicates the insurgency has drifted into northern parts of Iraq as a result of the escalation in Baghdad.
UPDATE: Meanwhile, Brookings analyst Michael O’Hanlon writes today, “the trends [of Iraqi deaths] are moving significantly in the right direction, and the military is now doing a better job of measuring actual casualty levels.” The AP states the military has “offered no statistics to back” its claim that violence levels are down.
UPDATE II: Matthew Yglesias has more. And Kevin Drum.
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Damn, that sucks.
It’s a good thing the US was there, cuz if we weren’t who knows what kind of blood shed we’d be seeing!!!
August 25th, 2007 at 3:50 pmQuick! Ship a drum of industrial-strength pig lipstick over there; and have Lindsey Graham deliver it personally!
August 25th, 2007 at 3:52 pmIt never seems to end – worse and worse every day, in my opinion.
Aggressive war was once punished as a war crime back at Nuremburg, and I believe this aggressive war will also hold some serious moral and legal implications for all those involved…
The killing of innocents is no small issue – no matter what the “rules of war” might dictate…
Here’s some interesting follow up reading:
August 25th, 2007 at 3:53 pm“Collateral Damage is Murder”
http://www.populistamerica.com/collateral_damage_is_murder
CASUALTIES STARTING AUGUST 1st ( 24 days)
Wednesday: 6 GIs, 1 Brit, 178 Iraqis Killed; 188 Iraqis Wounded
August 25th, 2007 at 3:54 pmThursday: 3 GIs, 116 Iraqis Killed; 76 Iraqis Wounded
Friday: 3 GIs, 22 Iraqis Killed; 13 Iraqis Wounded
Saturday: 1 Marine, 38 Iraqis Killed; 26 Iraqis Wounded
Sunday: 4 GIs, 116 Iraqis Killed; 49 Iraqis Wounded
Monday: 8 GIs, 123 Iraqis Killed; 131 Iraqis Wounded
Tuesday: 3 GIs, 1 Briton, 63 Iraqis Killed; 50 Iraqis Wounded
Wednesday: 93 Iraqis, 1 Briton Killed; 63 Iraqis Wounded
Thursday: 3 GIs, 2 Britons, 46 Iraqis Killed; 21 Iraqis Wounded
Friday: 81 Iraqis Killed, 89 Wounded
Saturday: 1 GI, 81 Iraqis Killed; 34 Iraqis Wounded
Sunday: 5 GIs, 1 Fiji Soldier, 57 Iraqis Killed; 37 Iraqis Wounded
Monday: 4 GIs, 41 Iraqis Killed; 20 Iraqis Wounded
Tuesday: 6 GIs Kille, 572 Dead, 1,562 Wounded
Wednesday: 87 Iraqis Killed, 44 Wounded
Thursday: 3 GIs, 64 Iraqis Killed; 40 Wounded
Friday: 4 GIs, 34 Iraqis Killed; 65 Iraqis Wounded
Saturday: 32 Iraqis Killed, 46 Iraqis Wounded
Sunday: 125 Iraqis Killed, 78 Wounded
Monday: 1 GI, 60 Iraqis Killed; 67 Iraqis Wounded
Tuesday: 63 Iraqis Killed, 89 Wounded
Wednesday: 15 GIs, 154 Iraqis Killed; 175 Iraqis Wounded
Thursday: 2 GIs, 72 Iraqis Killed; 59 Iraqis Wounded
Friday: 1 GI, 48 Iraqis Killed; 38 Iraqis Wounded
barfly sez
And you wonder why no one takes you seriously!
August 25th, 2007 at 3:54 pmIt’s a good thing the US was there, cuz if we weren’t who knows what kind of blood shed we’d be seeing!!!
Comment by Makarios — August 25, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
So we’d better get some troops to Darfur asap eh Mr. Humanitarian?
August 25th, 2007 at 3:54 pmFrom last night…
More than 4000 American families who have lost loved ones in Iraq would disagree with you.
Comment by Probus — August 25, 2007 @ 6:21 am
I couldn’t give less of a shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IRAN WILL BE GONE SOON, MARK MY WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU FILTHY LIBERAL, TREE-HUGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Makarios — August 25, 2007 @ 6:23 am
August 25th, 2007 at 3:55 pmdbadass sez
The UN is already on that, no need to worry.
August 25th, 2007 at 3:56 pmComment by Dave C — August 25, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
Despite less than a 24 hour vintage, already a classic!
August 25th, 2007 at 3:57 pmAnd you wonder why no one takes you seriously!
Comment by TripMaster Makarios
Compared to It’s a good thing the US was there, cuz if we weren’t who knows what kind of blood shed we’d be seeing!!! my post is the very soul of rationality. Yours? Not so much.
August 25th, 2007 at 3:58 pmI would say Bush is winning his war.. the war creating genocide to clear the masses for the oil takeover.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:01 pmDAMASCUS, – The massive influx of Iraqi refugees into Syria has brought rising prices and overcrowding, but most Syrians seem to have accepted more than a million of the refugees happily enough.
and to think Bush has not even sent these guys a food parcel or any other refugees IN Iraq
I see mr Bush still claims he cares for Iraqi people
August 25th, 2007 at 4:01 pmbarfly sez
If that’s what you think is rational, I must repeat:
And you wonder why no one takes you seriously!
August 25th, 2007 at 4:03 pmComment by TripMaster Makarios — August 25, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
CLASSIC!!!!!
August 25th, 2007 at 4:04 pmWhere are the Bush turd polishers?
August 25th, 2007 at 4:04 pmComment by TripMaster Makarios — August 25, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
You forgot this line of evasion — “the rest of your post isn’t worth responding to.”
August 25th, 2007 at 4:06 pmBush Cultists speak with forked tongue. They say the US needs to “take off the gloves”, ‘get medieval”, “turn Iraq into a glass parking lot”in order to win.
They never count the current number of Iraqi deaths…says Gen. Franks “we don’t do body counts”.
Yet they have created a new talking point that bemoans the potential large number of Iraqi deaths that will occur in the future were America to leave.
Bush Cultists use Iraqi lives as cheap political talking points and don’t care about them at all.
-GSD
August 25th, 2007 at 4:09 pmComment by TripMaster Makarios — August 25, 2007
Actually, Tripmaster Monkey is taken seriously here. Mr P? He got laughed at so constantly, he just dropped the name.
There’s this new fool, “Makarios”, whose almost as ridiculous as Mr P. The Mackerel, as he is derided, hasn’t made a comment as patently absurd as Mr P’s now famous “Saudis arent’ Moslems” knee slapper, but we feel it’s only a matter of minutes, or even seconds, before Mack self-destructs too. Some of us have actually hurt ourselves from laughing at Mr P. I had sore ribs for weeks after the “Moslems” comment.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:09 pmThe UN is already on that, no need to worry.
Comment by TripMaster Makarios — August 25, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
I thought the right’s take on the UN was a little different
August 25th, 2007 at 4:09 pmComment by TripMaster Makarios — August 25, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
CLASSIC!!!!!
Comment by Blame Bush —
You guys should get a room. While we liberals don’t mind a libertine attitude, we really don’t want to watch you two jerking each other off…
August 25th, 2007 at 4:10 pmYours? Not so much.
Comment by barfly — August 25, 2007 @ 3:58 pm
I suspect that by “no one”, Mr. P meant “I”.
That is a compliment coming from him: It means you were coherent.
(Mr. P = Makarios = Blame Bush)
August 25th, 2007 at 4:10 pmThe surge sounds more like a dirge.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:10 pmBush Cultists use Iraqi lives as cheap political talking points and don’t care about them at all.
-GSD
Comment by GSD — August 25, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
The psychic dissonance they live with must be damned near crippling.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:10 pmBlame Bush sez
I’ll keep that in mind for later, but I have to go now. I’ll check you late, Blame Bush.
As for you Leftanians, you will always lose!
August 25th, 2007 at 4:11 pmGOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!
GOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!
Comment by TripMaster Makarios — August 25, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
Which God would this be again?
August 25th, 2007 at 4:14 pmGOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!
Comment by TripMaster Makarios — August 25, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
All the sadder, to know how quickly this suffering individual could find relief w/ the proper meds… but, first, he must ask.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:14 pm“Tripe Master”? What kind of a name is that?
August 25th, 2007 at 4:15 pmGreat report but what does it mean? who is listening?
August 25th, 2007 at 4:15 pmComment by barfly — August 25, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
Barf-fly is such a bum.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:16 pmThis ASSociated Press article needs to be put in much-overdue context, an alien concept for progtards who live by pathological deception. AP blames the alleged, escalated toll on “sectarian violence.” Now, for any undereducated prog, sectarian violence means, essentially, that all this violence is exclusively the fault of the Iraq Arabs themselves! This means that, as usual, the violent, uncivilized culture of Iraqis is subscribing to the Culture of Revenge mentality, whereby the only way these Arabs know how to settle disagreements along their tribes and ethnicities is by bloodshed. This is what the context of the AP article is. The US military has once again delivered on a silver platter to the Iraqis the necessary conditions for political reconciliation–courtesy of the drop in deaths around Baghdad–but the Iraqis are too obsessed with revenge and murder. And, oh yeah, AP’s death count is doubtful since they don’t believe the official count of the Iraq government.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:17 pmBarf-fly is such a bum.
Comment by Blame Bush — August 25, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
WOO-HOO!!! ZING!!!! ;-D!!!
August 25th, 2007 at 4:17 pmWe’re killing them to keep them safe.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:17 pmAnd, oh yeah, AP’s death count is doubtful since they don’t believe the official count of the Iraq government.
Comment by Progressivesgetoffonbodycountnumbers — August 25, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
Meds, dude, meds. You don’t have to suffer like this, but you have to ask for the help.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:18 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 25, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
Oh. ‘The Democrat of Insanity’ shows its true democrat colors by castigating anyone who wishes good upon his or her own country.
Oh. so. very. surprised.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:18 pmAll the sadder, to know how quickly this suffering individual could find relief w/ the proper meds… but, first, he must ask.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 25, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
RoS,
Remember the tag-team we did on him a few nights ago with Bruce and someone else? Now that was a classic!!! He went into COMPLETE meltdown! Thought we were all the same person.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:19 pmYou do wonder why no one takes you seriously, don’t you? Maybe you should be working on your blog. It reeks of cheese and cheap whine.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:19 pmOne last thing before I go,
^_^
HEyOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 25th, 2007 at 4:19 pmdamn, deleted again!
TP, you win. I’ll not post here again.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:19 pmMakarios loves him some UN!
August 25th, 2007 at 4:20 pmHe went into COMPLETE meltdown! Thought we were all the same person.
Comment by upside00 — August 25, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Yes… extremely funny. Uh, we’re not the same person, are we? I mean, if you’re me, then who am I? And if you’re not you, but me, then who are you, really?
August 25th, 2007 at 4:21 pmMust be the dress.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:22 pmOne last thing before I go,
Comment by TripMaster Makarios — August 25, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
If only we were so lucky! He lied. He’ll be back any second. He’s just changing his panyhose.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:22 pmYes… extremely funny. Uh, we’re not the same person, are we? I mean, if you’re me, then who am I? And if you’re not you, but me, then who are you, really?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 25, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
I am me and you are he and he is you and you is me!
Or maybe the walrus?
August 25th, 2007 at 4:25 pmRepublic of Stupidity, thank you so much for being my inspiration. I want America to lose just as much as you do.
Iraqi insurgents are just too sexy for our troops.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:27 pmBane
August 25th, 2007 at 4:28 pmBane is the god of evil, destruction, hatred, (unjust) law, and tyranny.
He requires his priests to maintain lawful neutral, lawful evil, or neutral
evil alignments. His other followers can be of any neutral or evil alignment.
I don’t believe in Peter Pan – but he makes pretty good peanut butter.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:29 pmRepublic of Stupidity, thank you so much for being my inspiration. I want America to lose just as much as you do.
Iraqi insurgents are just too sexy for our troops.
Comment by The Democrat of Insanity — August 25, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
Mr. p is back after a short potty break, with his next new name.
And a hearty HEYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO to you.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:30 pmComment by Marcus Aurelius — August 25, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
Hey, Marcus!
As any regular democrat, I enjoy licking that peanut butter off of David Brock’s hairy bum. Perhaps we could “spread the love” sometime.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:32 pmComment by upside00 — August 25, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
Peanut butter?
August 25th, 2007 at 4:33 pmLast year Bush should have listened to the Iraq study Group – there would be over 800 US troops still alive
August 25th, 2007 at 4:34 pmComment by Tobey Tall — August 25, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
And if Harry Reid had been sent over to the middle east and told to go wherever he liked, we’d have another member of Al-Qaeda on our hands. Sounds good to me! He’s got Nevada listed as the most dangerous state, anyways!
It’s all fitting perfectly with the democrat agenda — high taxes, high crime, a weak defense, an internal and world-wide struggle against white people. It feels great to be a democrat!
I love you democrats, because I am one!
August 25th, 2007 at 4:37 pmPeanut butter?
Comment by The Democrat of Insanity — August 25, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
Jelly?
Are we playing “the Secret Word” here?
August 25th, 2007 at 4:39 pmComment by upside00 — August 25, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
HeHe. Yaya. I’m a playful demacrat.
Jam?
August 25th, 2007 at 4:40 pmSome of these posts are “Fluff”
August 25th, 2007 at 4:41 pmComment by dbadass — August 25, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
You mean, like my fluffy like Barack H. Obama carebear?
Oh no!
August 25th, 2007 at 4:42 pmComment by Marcus Aurelius — August 25, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
Marcus, don’t run away from your feelings!
August 25th, 2007 at 4:44 pmheres a great read and totally off topic BUt you can see Europe dont like Bush
The Pirate Bay – hollywoods enemy No 1
you can find all recent released DVD etc ..BUT these guys seem untouchable in Sweden ,,,they even quote
“I don’t like the word untouchable, but we feel pretty safe,” said Mr Sunde. He thinks that European enmity towards the Bush administration has bolstered support. “The US government is losing popularity every day in Europe, and people don’t want to see us give in to them.”
so downloading the latest film is Bushes fault ha ha ha
August 25th, 2007 at 4:44 pmhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/aug/25/piratebay
Why is everybody ignoring a fellow democrat?
August 25th, 2007 at 4:45 pmComment by dbadass — August 25, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
Some of these posts are “Fluffâ€
Yes, some of us are professional Chimp Fluffers. It’s true.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:47 pmComment by RepublicanPsychopath — August 25, 2007 @ 4:47 pm
Why, you KKKarl-sniffer, you. HeHe.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:50 pmComment by Tobey Tall — August 25, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
Hi, Tob-man!
August 25th, 2007 at 4:51 pmYou mean, like my fluffy like Barack H. Obama carebear?
Oh no!
Comment by The Democrat of Insanity — August 25, 2007 @ 4:42 pm
My kids are into these things. I think the one your mentioning is known as “Think Bear”.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:53 pmwho will rid the world of this monster Bush, who will soon be responsible for more deaths than Pol Pot.
To rational thinking Americans : TAKE YOUR COUNTRY BACK……PLAN THE COUP. DO THE SAME DIRTY DEEDS THAT YOUR ODIOUS CIA HAS DONE INSIDIOUSLY IN OTHER COUNTRIES AND GET A NEW GOVERNMENT!
August 25th, 2007 at 4:55 pmComment by dbadass — August 25, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
I like to call it “Inexperienced Bear.”
August 25th, 2007 at 4:56 pm63 . well said , yes Bush certainely is a Monster -good word – Ill use that in future
August 25th, 2007 at 4:57 pmHelp! Help! I’m a democrat by nature, so Help me! I’m the victim!
August 25th, 2007 at 4:58 pmAnd you wonder why no one takes you seriously!
Comment by TripMaster Makarios — August 25, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
malarkios is p, everyone. he dances the monkey-liar’s dance just like p, he has all of p’s yic’s pathologies and lies all tied up, and he makes as little sense as p. He’s also subject to hourly meltdowns. There are never more than two trolls here at one time.
August 25th, 2007 at 4:59 pmWhy do folks argue about “politics as usual” but then play the ‘experience” card. Although I am not a commented Obama voter, many have been elected with less experience so I propose “Worthy Bear”.
August 25th, 2007 at 5:00 pmronjazz sez
Seek help, ronjazz.
August 25th, 2007 at 5:15 pmThis article needs to be put in much-overdue context, an alien concept for progtards who live by pathological deception. AP blames the escalated toll on “sectarian violence.” Now, for any undereducated prog, sectarian violence means, essentially, that all this violence is exclusively the fault of the Iraq Arabs themselves! This means that, as usual, the violent, uncivilized culture of Iraqis is subscribing to the Culture of Revenge mentality, whereby the only way these Arabs know how to settle disagreements along their tribes and ethnicities is by bloodshed. This is what the context of the AP article is. The US military has once again delivered on a silver platter to the Iraqis the necessary conditions for political reconciliation–courtesy of the drop in deaths around Baghdad–but the Iraqis are too obsessed with revenge and murder. And, AP’s death count is doubtful since they don’t believe the official count of the Iraq government.
August 25th, 2007 at 5:22 pmAnd, AP’s death count is doubtful since they don’t believe the official count of the Iraq government.
Comment by Iraqisectarianviolenceupthankstolibs — August 25, 2007 @ 5:22 pm
There is no need to suffer like this, but you must ASK for the help.
August 25th, 2007 at 5:26 pmIraqisectarianviolenceupthankstolibs sez
100% true, but the Demlibs don’t quite understand. ^_^
Yep. That’s why they will be thanking us soon for making them civilized.
GOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!
August 25th, 2007 at 5:29 pmComment by Iraqisectarianviolenceupthankstolibs — August 25, 2007 @ 5:22 pm
For the benefit of this poster, whose comments include the concept of “undereducated”…about a quarter of the Iraqi’s…namely the Kurds…Are NOT Arabs.
August 25th, 2007 at 5:30 pmthe only way these Arabs know how to settle disagreements along their tribes and ethnicities is by bloodshed.
Comment by Iraqisectarianviolenceupthankstolibs — August 25, 2007 @ 5:22 pm
W is an Arab?
August 25th, 2007 at 5:33 pmsectarian violence means, essentially, that all this violence is exclusively the fault of the Iraq Arabs themselves!
100% true, but the Demlibs don’t quite understand. ^_^
Ya mean, when someone dropped phosphorus on Falljah…
http://jarrarsupariver.blogspot.com/2005/11/white-heat.html
it was actually Iraqis killing iraqis??? WOW!!! Stop the presses!!!
August 25th, 2007 at 5:35 pmW is an Arab?
Comment by dbadass — August 25, 2007 @ 5:33 pm
He just wishes he were..
August 25th, 2007 at 5:35 pmThe rise in violence if further proof that this poor policy of escalation has not worked. It has not reduced the violence despite what republicans are saying. We lost the Vietnam war because we got in the middle of a civil war. The same is true in Iraq.
August 25th, 2007 at 5:47 pm“Comment by Progressivesgetoffonbodycountnumbers — August 25, 2007 @ 4:17 pm”
“Meds, dude, meds. You don’t have to suffer like this, but you have to ask for the help.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 25, 2007 @ 4:18 pm”
Perhpas a 72hr hold may just do the trick!
August 25th, 2007 at 5:48 pm62 per day and the MSM seem unable to show us ANY visuals of the carnage at all. Hmmmm, now who runs the TV and radio and newspapers in the country…?
August 25th, 2007 at 5:49 pmOnce again O’Hanlon is claiming something to be true when it isn’t. The war supporters are in the minority now. The majority of us don’t believe Bush or Cheney when they proclaim success. The facts don’t support O’Hanlon’s assertions.
August 25th, 2007 at 5:50 pmProbster, both Dems and Reps believe that the War on Terror in Iraq is showing considerable progress.
You, sir/madam, are lying.
August 25th, 2007 at 5:54 pmThe violence in Iraq is actually getting worse. The surge has failed to achieve its goals. The reality on the ground contradicts those who proclaim that the surge has worked. It hasn’t.
August 25th, 2007 at 5:55 pmIf the Iraqis want the numbers of Iraqi deaths to dwindle, then I suggest the Iraqis quit killing each other.
August 25th, 2007 at 6:02 pmPresident George W. Bush’s overall job approval rating has taken a small dip, dropping to 32% positive, down from 34% who gave him positive job marks in mid-July, a new Reuters/Zogby International telephone poll shows.
The survey also shows that the overall job approval rating for the work of Congress remains far below the President’s, as just 15% give the national legislature a collective positive rating, up one point since last month. Changes in both the ratings for the President and Congress are statistically insignificant.
This latest Reuters/Zogby poll included interviews with 1,020 likely voters between August 9-11, 2007. It carries a margin of error of +/- 3.1 percentage points.
August 25th, 2007 at 6:03 pmThe troops have drawn conclusions about fellow citizens back home. Asked why they think some Americans favor rapid U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq, 37% of troops serving there said those Americans are unpatriotic, while 20% believe people back home don’t believe a continued occupation will work. Another 16% said they believe those favoring a quick withdrawal do so because they oppose the use of the military in a pre-emptive war, while 15% said they do not believe those Americans understand the need for the U.S. troops in Iraq.
August 25th, 2007 at 6:05 pmComment by O. Bigfoot — August 25, 2007 @ 6:03 pm
Looks like everyone wants something else. Ideas?
August 25th, 2007 at 6:05 pm“Ninety-three percent (of the troops) said that removing weapons of mass destruction is not a reason for U.S. troops being there,†said Pollster John Zogby, President and CEO of Zogby International. “Instead, that initial rationale went by the wayside and, in the minds of 68% of the troops, the real mission became to remove Saddam Hussein.†Just 24% said that “establishing a democracy that can be a model for the Arab World” was the main or a major reason for the war. Only small percentages see the mission there as securing oil supplies (11%) or to provide long-term bases for US troops in the region (6%).
August 25th, 2007 at 6:07 pmThe continuing insurgent attacks have not turned U.S. troops against the Iraqi population, the survey shows. More than 80% said they did not hold a negative view of Iraqis because of those attacks. About two in five see the insurgency as being comprised of discontented Sunnis with very few non-Iraqi helpers. “There appears to be confusion on this,†Zogby said. But, he noted, less than a third think that if non-Iraqi terrorists could be prevented from crossing the border into Iraq, the insurgency would end. A majority of troops (53%) said the U.S. should double both the number of troops and bombing missions in order to control the insurgency.
August 25th, 2007 at 6:10 pmA majority of the troops serving in Iraq said they were satisfied with the war provisions from Washington. Just 30% of troops said they think the Department of Defense has failed to provide adequate troop protections, such as body armor, munitions, and armor plating for vehicles like HumVees. Only 35% said basic civil infrastructure in Iraq, including roads, electricity, water service, and health care, has not improved over the past year. Three of every four were male respondents, with 63% under the age of 30.
August 25th, 2007 at 6:13 pmComment by O. Bigfoot — August 25, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
… removing weapons of mass destruction is not a reason for U.S. troops being there,†because there WERE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
August 25th, 2007 at 6:18 pmthe real mission became to remove Saddam Hussein.†MISSION ACCOMPLISHED….he’s dead
establishing a democracy that can be a model for the Arab World†what Arab in his right mind would want America’s help in establishing anything.?
That’s the problem with the war in IRAQ….Nobody knows what the mission IS!
Comment by Badger — August 25, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
Heh. What’s wrong, Badger?
Too many facts for you!
August 25th, 2007 at 6:24 pmWhat’s the Mission????
August 25th, 2007 at 6:25 pmHey BigO. Still nuke happy?
August 25th, 2007 at 6:33 pmJust 30% of troops said they think the Department of Defense has failed to provide adequate troop protections, such as body armor, munitions, and armor plating for vehicles like HumVees.
FACTS??? Then why is the military rushing to provide MRAPS to the Army in Iraq after being criticized by the Defense Secretary, stating that Army blood is not less valuable than Marine Blood. Marines have MRAPS (V shaped IED resistant vehicles) while the Army does not.
August 25th, 2007 at 6:34 pmI read the posting and then I take the link ND READ THAT STORY AND IT LEADS ME TO THIS QUESTION— what is wrong with ohanlon? Does he not see the statistics that show him to either be wrong or lying?
August 25th, 2007 at 6:45 pm62 per day and the MSM seem unable to show us ANY visuals of the carnage at all. Hmmmm, now who runs the TV and radio and newspapers in the country…?
Comment by Shirley — August 25, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
If one accounts for the ratio of the Iraqi population to that of the US, that is the equivalent to one nine-eleven every 4 days.
August 25th, 2007 at 6:58 pmOnly small percentages see the mission there as securing oil supplies (11%) or to provide long-term bases for US troops in the region (6%).
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 25, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
Definitely the smart ones!!! :-D!!!
August 25th, 2007 at 7:01 pmO’Hanlon has lost credibility.
August 25th, 2007 at 7:35 pmThat’s odd… where’d Little [ ] go? I mean, just beause we caught him red-handed distorting the facts doesn’t mean he has to run off crying.
He’s changing his knickers?? Oh, I understand.
August 25th, 2007 at 7:44 pmI can see most people here are totally excited. Kill more, kill more
August 25th, 2007 at 8:29 pmI can see most people here are totally excited. Kill more, kill more
Comment by umbra — August 25, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
Please articulate this “position’ of yours. You seem to think you have a “point” to make. Go ahead, expand on it. Be specific, please.
August 25th, 2007 at 8:32 pm10
August 25th, 2007 at 8:50 pmFAILURE .
FAILURExFAILURExFAILURExFAILURExFAILURE. The Republican matrix.
August 25th, 2007 at 8:52 pmTP Iraq coverage seems somewhat disjointed today:
First there has been no reduction in deaths.
“Despite escalation, Iraqi deaths double”
A few items later, there has been a small reduction, but it’s caused by the number of people who have left or been killed, which just happened to coincide with the surge. Or it’s caused by the Iraqi’s thinking the U.S. is pulling out in the midst of the surge.
“Yesterday, the National Intelligence Estimate reported “measurable but uneven improvements†in the security situation in Iraq.”
A few more items down, and back to “the surge isn’t working.”
“Stastics show the downside of the surge”
August 26th, 2007 at 12:23 amJust maybe O’Hanlon is telling the truth for once.
If the as yet unstated goal is to take over Iraq so their oil resources can be handed over to the multi-national oil companies, if Iraqis step their killing of each other, eventually there won’t be anyone left and the United States can take over the country by default.
The neocons can populate the country with a few true believers from the red states, and make Iraq the 51st state (which should be a bright, blood red — the Republicans wet dream come true).
August 26th, 2007 at 3:13 amIf the as yet unstated goal is to take over Iraq so their oil resources can be handed over to the multi-national oil companies…
Comment by curmudgeon — August 26, 2007 @ 3:13 am
But it isn’t, so nevermind. ;)
August 26th, 2007 at 1:59 pm62 people a day.
62 people a day.
62 people a day.
Sixty-Two. People. A. Day.
Holy shiat.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:22 pmDamn, that sucks.
If the u.s. troops were not there they may not be seeing the bloodshed now happening.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:00 amWho know what will happen if we leave, but we do know that we are not stopping the blood shed. WE do not have anyone that can see into the future if that were so, we never would have gone into Iraq in the first place.