Escalation Architect Bemoans Label Of ‘Armchair General,’ Claims Iraqi Deaths Are ‘Way Down’
Escalation Architect Bemoans Label Of ‘Armchair General,’ Claims Iraqi Deaths Are ‘Way Down’
This weekend on Washington D.C. ABC affiliate’s Capital Sunday, Center for American Progress Iraq analyst Brian Katulis debated American Enterprise Institute’s military analyst — and Iraq escalation architect — Fred Kagan.
“Right now, Iraq is in civil war. It’s in fact in multiple civil wars,” Katulis said. “And I don’t think that these military tactics that these armchair generals and the academics offer up fundamentally address the core issue — that Iraqis are in a vicious struggle for power.”
Taking issue with Katulis’ description of him as an “armchair general,” Kagan complained that “you only get called an armchair general when you actually advocate doing anything.” Speaking as an armchair general, Kagan went on to claim “sectarian killings are way down,” despite an AP report that Iraqi deaths have doubled so far this year.
Watch it:
Katulis rejected Kagan’s assertion that Iraqi deaths are “way down”:
Sectarian killing is not down. If you look at the NIE, they say the places where Baghdad has become stabilized, it’s because of sectarian cleansing. Baghdad used to be a 65 percent Sunni majority city. Now it’s 75 percent [Shia], and we’re standing there and watching this happen while the militias are right underneath our nose, infiltrated in the very security forces that we’re supporting. And this raises big questions about what the heck we’re doing over there.
Armchair general Fred Kagan has advocated escalation so the U.S. can militarily confront Syria and Iran in the future. He said of escalation last month, “Whatever you can say about the current strategy, it has not failed.”
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I love it. What is failure? I do not know. No one knows. You can only determine success or failure in terms of what your goals are in the operation. Bush and his ilk are quite adept at never really quite defining the goas or the metrics by which to judge the success or failure of their actions.
The is the nonaccountable administration. They can never be judged. Thus, they can never have made a mistake. GOD HELP US ALL.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:51 pmFor those interested in a psychological analysis of warmongering, I have recently completed a 10-minute online video entitled “Resisting the Drums of War.†It examines how the Bush administration has promoted the misguided and destructive war in Iraq by targeting five core concerns that often govern our lives–concerns about vulnerability, injustice, distrust, superiority, and helplessness. Looking ahead, the continuing occupation of Iraq–or an attack on Iran–will likely be sold to us in much the same way. The video examines these warmongering appeals and how to counter them. It’s available for viewing HERE.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:51 pmKagan is correct. The surge has been a huge success.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:52 pmFrodo Kagan has been wrong with every statement, prediction, stance and claim he’s made about Iraq.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:54 pmConsistent, yes, consistently wrong.
“lose the war” - Kagan helped, Bush ok’d it.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:54 pmFred Kagan sits in his armchair and discusses his mighty plans “success” and denies being an armchair general.
It appears that Fred is about to explode from the hypocrisy.
Or perhaps that is just a sympathy surge he has going on?
August 26th, 2007 at 2:55 pmBrian Katulis is the one who got it wrong. He is ignoring all of the success brought on by the surge. He lives in a fantasy world.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:56 pmJohn Kerry is an armchair general. He fabricated his record in Vietnam and now he acts like he knows what he is talking about.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:57 pm[…] “Baghdad used to be a 65 percent Sunni majority city. Now it’s 75 percent,…”
Sunni?
Shiite, I believe.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:59 pmBrian Katulis is the one who got it wrong. He is ignoring all of the success brought on by the surge. He lives in a fantasy world.
Comment by Brassmask
Brassmask, let me introduce you to a fantasy world: YOURS…Geez, I thought we were alomst out of kool-aid. I guess we have a ’surge’ in kool-aid now.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:59 pmIt’s as if wingers were trying to prove they’re insane.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:00 pmJohn Kerry is an armchair general. He fabricated his record in Vietnam and now he acts like he knows what he is talking about.
Comment by Brassmask — August 26, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Prove that, liar. And offer up any proof that the surge is working besides the statements of the proven liars you’re quoting. Otherwise, STFU.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:03 pmPerry, I just checked out your website. You are a freakin kook.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:03 pmThe surge has been a huge success.
Comment by Brassmask — August 26, 2007 @
Success for whom? The dead soldiers? The dead and displaced Iraqis? Or do you mean the continued ruination of our exhausted military? Oh yeah, the private contractors continue to rake in our children’s tax dollars. A success that is dragging our great country down. Keep up the good work traitor.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:03 pmJohn Kerry lied about going into cambodia.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:04 pmBrassmask, let me introduce you to a fantasy world: YOURS…Geez, I thought we were alomst out of kool-aid. I guess we have a ’surge’ in kool-aid now.
Comment by Tom — August 26, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
THis is the reincarnation of mr. p from his meth meltdown last night. Just ignore his rants and he will get mad and go away.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:05 pmBrassmask doesn’t care about the real facts, and that the facts indicate that civilian deaths in Iraq have doubled.
Bassmask only wants them thar downhome good ole boy facts, them god fearin’ chimp lovin’ facts, them facts that only can exist in the mind of a completely insane conservative at this point.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:10 pmThis is the same guy (Kagan) who is also pushing the Deserter in Chief and 5 Deferment Cheney to attack Iran. Truly, a Moron of the 1st order.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:11 pmAnd Perry, I like your site. Just looked at it after Brasshat piqued my curiosity about it. Have to look at it more. I’ve got it bookmarked.
If this was true, every Democrat would be calling for a withdrawl from Iraq and would be willing to cut off funds.
But it’s not true.
Comment by Brassmask — August 26, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
You need to provide proof, not add to your list of lies and treasonous statements. We understand that you are envious of heroes like Kerry who actually did battle against the enemy, showing far more courage than you or any of the members of the Bush madministration, but you don’t get away with those lies here. Take them to the rest of your traitor buddies on redstate or lgf, where the antiAmericans hang out, afraid to enlist, afraid to fight.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:14 pmWe’ve “lost” the war (not that anyone really knows what “won” or “lost” means in Iraq). Time to bring the troops home.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:15 pmAll spin all the time.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:15 pmTHis is the reincarnation of mr. p from his meth meltdown last night. Just ignore his rants and he will get mad and go away.
Comment by upside00
FU. I have been posting here since day one! Not going anywhere. If you are a friend of Brassmask, then you are no friend of mine or America’s. Who needs you anyway?
August 26th, 2007 at 3:16 pmhey, assmask, you’re outnumbered here by 10 to 1, just like the way the whole country is going. What is wrong with you that you can’t see the truth that 90% of Americans see? Keep going after Kerry; you’ll never earn a Silver Star or Purple heart, much less the numerous other medals kerry earned, and the Navy confirmed. Coward.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:17 pmpay attention, Tom. upside00 was refering to assmask, not you.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:19 pmWhat will be gained by staying ???????
the true answer is Nothing or Oil
August 26th, 2007 at 3:19 pmIs an assmask something you wear to hide the identity of your ass? Or is it a mask that looks like an ass but that your wear on your face? Or is it just some demented, psychopathic conservative who lets George Bush sit on his face to mask it in glory?
August 26th, 2007 at 3:22 pm“every Democrat would be calling for a withdrawl” they can’t because they would be skewered by the corporate (republic666an) press with all the usual name calling and the American sheeple with their short attention span would buy into the name calling. This is what a republic666an monopoly on MSM information has gotten us. We deserve just what we get for sleeping at the wheel while these evil self serving cretins destroy our country.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:22 pmhttp://ccoaler.blogspot.com/ 2007/ 08/ akmaydjinedjad-reiterates-nuclear.html
August 26th, 2007 at 3:23 pmLess banal speech from Akmaydjinedjad: he marks new hope for his nuke program.
pay attention, Tom. upside00 was refering to assmask, not you.
Comment by ronjazz
My bad…Too early for thinking. I apologize to you upside00. Your one of us - I should have known since i read your posts almost daily. I walk away ashamed…Too early for thinking.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:27 pmFU. I have been posting here since day one! Not going anywhere. If you are a friend of Brassmask, then you are no friend of mine or America’s. Who needs you anyway?
Comment by Tom — August 26, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
Read the piece more carefully before responding! It was Asshat I had copied and was referring to!
August 26th, 2007 at 3:31 pmLet’s just agree to ignore assmask, since he’s here to disrupt, not converse.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:32 pmTom,
Disregard my post on #29, wrote before I saw your response, sorry. We are all on the good side!
August 26th, 2007 at 3:32 pmJust remember: “WAR IS PEACE”, Black is white, Deaths are way down etc etc… ye olde lie.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:33 pmYeah…It gets confusing sometimes. I get so mad at folks like Brass that i start typing without thinking…Sorry again. No excuses from me. My apolgies again to you.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:35 pmOne question, how in the hell does Kagan expect anyone to think he’s credible?
When you’ve blown as many calls as he has, you shouldn’t expect anything but derisive sneers at your continued flupperations.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:37 pmIf there will be any legacy PudgeBoy rover leaves behind, it will be the GOP ability to spin ANYTHING like a Maytag in full motion that distorts things so the brain-dead Repug sheeple will believe it.
Just like the Jonestown followers, who couldn’t let go of one crazy MoFo long enough to escape back to reality.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:37 pmMaybe an assmask is a special type of oxygen mask a conservative has to wear in order to keep breathing oxygen while they have their head up their ass. That is, they need to wear an assmask until their body gets used to breathing in a pure methane environment. If that’s the case, it must be a very essential item of conservative paraphernalia.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:52 pmWASHINGTON - GOP Sen. John Warner, who wants U.S. troops to start coming home from Iraq by Christmas, said Sunday he may support Democratic legislation ordering withdrawals if President Bush refuses to set a return timetable soon.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:53 pmThat’s good! Now why don’t you buy us all a drink, ya’ cheap bastad.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:58 pmThe surge has been a huge success.
Comment by Brassmask
Thats a completely truthful statement. Remember genius Tony Snows said that success meant more chaos and destruction? There ya go!
August 26th, 2007 at 4:01 pmThe statute of limitations just expired for John Kerry to bring slander charges against the authors of Unfit for Command. All of the statements made in that book are true about Kerry. This is why he refused to file suit. Kerry fabricated his record in Vietnam and lied about going into Cambodia.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:05 pmCertainly. But once two people know a secret, one of them has to die. So, if Kerry lied about Cambodia, who did he kill to keep it covered up?
August 26th, 2007 at 4:06 pmBuy the book in my URI link. It’s all true.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:07 pmThat’s okay - I trust that everything you’ve said is true. I don’t need to buy the book.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:09 pmSen. Kerry permits last statute of limitations for defamation to lapse, forever barring any defamation claim against SwiftVet authors O’Neill and Corsi
http://beldar.blogs.com/ beldarblog/ 2007/ 08/ sen-kerry-permi.html
August 26th, 2007 at 4:10 pmPosters like Brassmask serve a purpose. If he/she makes a point you are unsure about, do your research and respond with facts. If he/she just wants to incite anger with the same old Fox News, Sean Hannity, black is white, white is black, knock this battery off my shoulder, go on I dare you, rant…take a deep breath…post something that actually makes sense, and win every time. :)
John Kerry? Who cares? This is about Iraq, you know, bad policy, criminal execution, no good options left. If you have any ideas beside “stay the course” lets have it.
My opinion, OK
Go BIG or Go Home.
Go big means raising military salaries as much as needed to create the forces needed to place at least 300,00 troops on the ground. Then we put a strongman in place. Then we train and equip him with an army. Now we are at least back to where we started from. Cost no limit, raise taxes and cut domestic programs to pay for it. It should be completed in 7-10 years.
Or go home and watch Iraq burn.
Like Thomas Ricks said this morning on MTP, there are no good options left
August 26th, 2007 at 4:13 pmI guess his his only recourse now is to track down the men what slandered him, and administer a good old-fashioned ass-whuppin’.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:14 pmLike Thomas Ricks said this morning on MTP, there are no good options left
Comment by Samsara — August 26, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
I don’t think this is true, and I’ve been suggesting the same thing for several years: partition. It’s not guarantee of peace in our time, but a reasonable and fair distribution of “Iraq” into northern Kurdistan, central Sunnistan and southern Shiiastan (whew), including an equitable distribution to the Sunnis of oil revenue from north and south, would at least have a chance of some stability.
The biggest hindrance to the idea is the attitude of the surrounding countries, especially Turkey, who is chomping at the bit for an opportunity to subdue the Kurds.
Well, that and the fact the this administration has repeatedly refused to consider partition as an option.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:17 pmComment by Brassmask — August 26, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
Blah blah blah john kerry blah blah blah . . . you’ve got nothing, as usual. “Look over there!”
August 26th, 2007 at 4:19 pmHey, it’s hard to believe a Bush Troll would want to talk about John Kerry instead of George W. Bush’s losing record.
-GSD
August 26th, 2007 at 4:21 pmWhen did Kagan go to Iraq for his four hour tour?
August 26th, 2007 at 4:21 pmThe armchair general keeps raising the meme: “what happens when we leave?” without ever acknowledging that the disaster on the ground is a direct result of an invasion he and his buddies pitched in the first place. We might actually get somewhere if these bast@rds would first concede that they were the ones that screwed everything up.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:22 pmThe statute of limitations just expired for John Kerry to bring slander charges against the authors of Unfit for Command. All of the statements made in that book are true about Kerry. This is why he refused to file suit. Kerry fabricated his record in Vietnam and lied about going into Cambodia.
Comment by Brassmask
So, I guess that the FACTS printed in Kitty Kelly’s
“The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty”
http://www.amazon.com/ Family-Real-Story-Bush-Dynasty/ dp/ 0385503245
are ALSO all TRUE, since the Bushes NEVER brought a lawsuit against her.
Bush’s COCAINE USE, being AWOL, Daddy’s TREASON,
Grandpa’s Hitler TREASON.
Good enough for Kerry,
Good enough for TRAITOR Bushes…
August 26th, 2007 at 4:22 pmHey, it’s hard to believe a Bush Troll would want to talk about John Kerry instead of George W. Bush’s losing record.
Thats cause the truth is George signed up for a 6 year stint then bailed out after 4 years in the Champagne unit protecting the dangerous skies over Texas.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:24 pmFrowm what I know of Kagan his intellectual feat is German war history. That helps explain the ‘Shock and Awe’ mentality we heard so much about. Less troops, technology, a cake walk of a war, only one Friedman Unit long!
August 26th, 2007 at 4:26 pmTaking issue with Katulis’ description of him as an “armchair general,†Kagan complained that “you only get called an armchair general when you actually advocate doing anything.â€
Not when your advocacy results in catastrophe, and quagmire.
If the Iraqis had greeted us with hug and kisses, Kagan would be a god among men. Now, he’s simply another think-tanker, hulled on the rocks of his own hubris.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:26 pmAugust 26th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
Baghdad wikipedia
In April 2004, USA Today reported that a follow-up Gallup poll in Baghdad indicated that “only 13 percent of the people now say the invasion of Iraq was morally justifiable.
Lets try that question again in 2007
August 26th, 2007 at 4:30 pmOr go home in 10 years, and watch Iraq burn. Or, more realistically, our lil’ Dictator wipes out his opposition and the sect they belong to - only burning the city when he really needs to - and terrorizes the remaining population into submission. Nice democracy ya’ got there. If that’s all the Republicans got, I wouldn’t hire one to run a lemon aid stand - much less a war.
There never were any good options. The war was a stupid idea. That’s why anyone who supported the war or GWB can honestly be referred to as an imbecile.
Comment by Samsara — August 26, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
August 26th, 2007 at 4:32 pmThe Right’s biggest fear is that the U.S. will leave Iraq & the killing will stop.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:34 pmGo big means raising military salaries as much as needed to create the forces needed to place at least 300,00 troops on the ground.
Thats what the Generals initially wanted, some 400,000 troops on the ground to secure the country. Instead they went with Rumsfeld and Cheney who thought guided missiles and smart bombs would do the trick with only 140,000 troops. Shock and Awe. Parades of Roses.
Business men and think-tanks slide rule geeks shouldn’t be making war plans. It was a bad plan from the get go.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:37 pmPerpetual peace through perpetual war.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:38 pmNow, as the President seeks another $145 billion to fund the Iraq and Afghanistan wars through September 2008,
http://vcnv.org/ project/ the-occupation-project
August 26th, 2007 at 4:40 pmgummitch
Partition may be an option, but if we are going to do it , there will have to be a re-commitment to Iraq. Money and troops will have to be raised and George Bush lacks the public trust and political clout to do either. It would have to take place after Jan 08, and I don’t know how a new President could rally support for another effort. It would be easier to blame the Iraqi’s, and blame the other party, and move on. Also, you are correct that Turkey would go ape s–t.
I guess I don’t think of partition as being a “good” option.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:40 pmHEALTHCARE & THE WAR ARE “SiCKOâ€
One fourth of the Iraq war budget alone could fund healthcare for every uninsured person in this country.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:41 pmTP is getting pathetic. The war is almost over, as the United States is on the verge of victory, and this is best TP can come up with to smear conservatives.
Ha!
August 26th, 2007 at 4:45 pmComment by Liberal-at-large
Uh oh, there is a convict on the loose!
August 26th, 2007 at 4:46 pmTPmademeaRepublican, define victory in Iraq.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:47 pmNow, as the President seeks another $145 billion to fund the Iraq and Afghanistan wars through September 2008,
so let me get this right your all going to pay $600 for every man women and child in America to watch another 600 troops die IN ONE YEAR
strange mentality going on here ?????
August 26th, 2007 at 4:49 pmIt is so transparent that BUsh and the armchair generals like Kagan will dump all the blame for their debacle onto the next administration.
“We were on the way to victory then a dang democrat got elected.”
August 26th, 2007 at 4:53 pmI can hear it now.
Comment by TPmademeaRepublican — August 26, 2007 @ 4:45 pm
It was a Freedom Operation, remember? To win the Hearts and Minds of the Iraqi people and to install Democracy. If they dont want Democracy then its their loss. (R)Hoekstra has admitted as much.
http://www.freep.com/ apps/ pbcs.dll/ article?AID=/ 20070825/ NEWS06/ 708250330/ 1008/ NEWS06
U.S. Rep. Peter Hoekstra said Iraq’s tribal, Islamic culture is not receptive to democratic ideals. He said Bush should consider other ways to control Iraq, whose government, he said, is floundering under Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
From a FREEP site no less…
August 26th, 2007 at 4:57 pmHoekstra made me a
conservativeDemocratBWAH.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:59 pm#1 you nailed it. When was the last time you had a project to accomplish where you did not have to set the “goal”?? Never probably. Yet Dumbyo-yo gets away with giving the appearance of a legitimate goal when that goal has never been clearly defined. What a trick, indeed. No goal means that success or failure cannot be defined either…stand to reason. Without any measure of success or failure which was agreed upon when establishing the “goal of the project”, guess what??? It all comes down to a semantical argument with nothing being able to be defined or resolved. Precisely what these morons wanted it to be…..an everlasting occupation without goals.
It’s the exact MO they used when they went into Iraq without defining the enemy — which means that without an enemy, there can be no goal.
What illogical bullshit we’ve been fed….and continue to be fed daily.
When they say the “dumming down of america” this is precisely what they mean. People are so dumbstruck that they don’t even know how to logically and legitimately wrap their brains around this level of propaganda and bullshit.
August 26th, 2007 at 5:05 pmTo save any remaining credibility, the Brookings Institute must immediately publicly rebuke and sever ties with Mike O’Whore for taking money as a paid propagandist for the Bush White House. We all knew that Broder was a butt buddy of Rove’s, but Mike too?
Outrageous in the extreme and even more outrageous that the MSM rags continue to fail to disclose and report all of these conflicts of interest.
August 26th, 2007 at 5:07 pmSeriously, the next time Dumbyoyo comes to congress asking for more money, people will be throwing rotten tomatoes at him. The people can’t wait for the election cycle to begin to get this fool on the hill out of the public arena. He’s one huge embarrassment.
August 26th, 2007 at 5:08 pmI got my rotten tomatoes locked and loaded.
August 26th, 2007 at 5:48 pmThink Progress, and the liberal retards that come here, embolden terrorists and hate America. TP liberals are traitors and should be treated as such!
August 26th, 2007 at 5:55 pmAs Mr P writes- HHHHHHEEEYYYYYOoOoOOOooOOOoOOoOOooOOoOOoOOooOOOoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoo!!
August 26th, 2007 at 6:02 pmComment by TPmademeaRepublican
If you dont go to Iraq your a traitor and should be treated as such,
August 26th, 2007 at 6:03 pmHoekstra and the GOP retards that don’t come here, such as (R) Hoekstra and (R) Warner embolden terrorists and hate America. GOP are traitors and should be treated as such!
Comment by TPmademeaDemocrat August 26, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
Fixed Your Latest Histerical Myopic Temper Tantrum To Match Reality Mr P (Or P clone)
Now flop down on the floor, flail your arms, kick your legs, and start moaning like the little baby you are.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:09 pmAmerica in peril thanks to greed of war profiteers, wearing out our over stretched military. Thanks blind GOP followers.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:10 pmNow flop down on the floor, flail your arms, kick your legs, and start moaning like the little baby you are.
Comment by Gen Kaye Hoss — August 26, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
He does this on a regular basis now. So sad to watch, probably even sadder for his mommy.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:23 pmThanks blind GOP followers.
Comment by jb — August 26, 2007 @ 6:10 pm
Think any of them will see the light when the Big Flush comes in 09?
August 26th, 2007 at 6:24 pmThink Progress, and the liberal retards that come here, embolden terrorists and hate America. TP liberals are traitors and should be treated as such!
Comment by TPmademeaRepublican — August 26, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
You can’t be helped until you ask for help.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:28 pmHi folks! (Not Billo’s folks) It sure seems like the trolls, and the criminals thay support, are growing desperate. Their break with reality is becoming their permanent state. Very sad.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:32 pmThe trolls may be growing desperate, but unfortunately the criminals they support are growing RICH. Mission Accomplished
August 26th, 2007 at 6:34 pmThink Progress, and the liberal retards that come here, embolden terrorists and hate America. TP liberals are traitors and should be treated as such!
Comment by TPmademeaRepublican — August 26, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
Ah, the beer must be kicking in.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:37 pmI doubt this last 20% of blind GOP followers will ever wake up. Some know the jig is up, but refuse to say so. Others will have regrets of some sort when the war comes home. And it always does. Depleted Uranium, PTSD, cancer trauma, but hey have you seen the price of Halliburton stock or the profits of the oil Corp.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:38 pmMakes me sick.
Comment by TPmademeaRepublican — August 26, 2007 @ 4:45 pm
“The war is almost over, as the United States is on the verge of victory”
_________
Gee, how long do you think this latest set of insurgent “last throes” will last? How many more 6 month periods until we finally enter the period of the last, last, very last throes?
August 26th, 2007 at 6:40 pmGee, how long do you think this latest set of insurgent “last throes†will last? How many more 6 month periods until we finally enter the period of the last, last, very last throes?
Comment by UpFromTheSkies — August 26, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Then when we reach that point, Kristol will say we are just 6 more months away.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:46 pmSorry if this is a repeat post, but I wanted everyone to know:
Keith Olbermann will be on NBC (yup. Prime time.)
at 7:00 tonight,
I believe it’s his debut.
Let’s all give him our support.
PS - It might have been nice for TP to do a small announcement of this since our cause is so important, but then again, it is the (small though we may be) people who spread the word.
Goodnight.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:54 pmBushco can still do plenty of damage but, desperate people make mistakes. Like citing the “positives” of Vietnam. All that should be necessary is to let them continue discrediting themselves.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:55 pmAh, the beer must be kicking in.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — August 26, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
I don’t think beer can be blamed in this case.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:57 pmAll that should be necessary is to let them continue discrediting themselves.
Comment by pete — August 26, 2007 @ 6:55 pm
Yep. When in a hole, the first you need to do is stop digging, unless your name is George Bush. In that case, by all means, keep digging!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:03 pmThe statute of limitations just expired for John Kerry to bring slander charges against the authors of Unfit for Command. All of the statements made in that book are true about Kerry. This is why he refused to file suit. Kerry fabricated his record in Vietnam and lied about going into Cambodia.
Comment by Brassmask — August 26, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
what book? I never saw a copy anywhere. Did Scaife buy them all up to prevent embarrassment of the Right, like he does Coulter’s trash?
August 26th, 2007 at 7:09 pmReminder:
Keith Olbermann & Countdown On NBC Tonight 7pm EST
it’s great!!! and on PRIME TIME !!!!!!
can the peoples take it???
can they handle the truth???
heh…
August 26th, 2007 at 7:12 pm“Kagan is correct. The surge has been a huge success.
Comment by Brassmask”
It has been a success for the insurgents, but certainly not for us. It has not brought us any closer to closing the oil theft with the Iraqi’s. It has caused 600+ more deaths. It has bankrupted us to the tune of billions per month that we can’t hope to pay back (China now owns us). It has not brought the government in Iraq any closer to any kind of reconciliation.
You are right. Our escalation has been a huge success for the insurgents. Congratulations Rethugs…I’m sure the parents of those 600+ who lost their lives because of you are eternally grateful for your lemming devotion to the man who is leading you off a cliff.
May god have mercy on your souls.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:17 pm“The statute of limitations just expired for John Kerry to bring slander charges against the authors of Unfit for Command. All of the statements made in that book are true about Kerry. This is why he refused to file suit. Kerry fabricated his record in Vietnam and lied about going into Cambodia.”
Wow, this kind of logic boggles the mind. Because Kerry didn’t file a slander suit against someone, that means what they wrote was the truth. Amazing. Where did you get those critical thinking skills? Did you buy them somewhere?
August 26th, 2007 at 7:23 pmDid you buy them somewhere?
Comment by bilbogaggins — August 26, 2007 @ 7:23 pm
Home schooling???
August 26th, 2007 at 7:25 pmComment by katy — August 26, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
Who’s that? Another moonbat, unAmerican, terrorist-coddling, muslim-loving, liar?
Typical.
- VA HU$TLER
August 26th, 2007 at 7:27 pmYOU LIBTARD DEFEATOCRATS CAN’T STAND TO HEAR GOOD NEWS ABOUT PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH’S FREEDOM AGENDA, CAN YOU?
AMERICA WILL WIN, LOSERS!!!!!
FREEDOM IS ON THE MARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:28 pmWhat’s up, RALPH?
It’s me, Konservo!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:29 pmWho’s that? Another moonbat, unAmerican, terrorist-coddling, muslim-loving, liar?
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
Please define your terms - “moonbat”, “terrorist-coddling”, “muslim-loving”, otherwise, your comment has no meaning.
Please explain why someone would be “unAmerican”, too.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:30 pmYOU LIBTARD DEFEATOCRATS CAN’T STAND TO HEAR GOOD NEWS ABOUT PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH’S FREEDOM AGENDA, CAN YOU?
Comment by RALPH — August 26, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
Please define “LIBTARDS” clearly. Otherwise, your comment is incoherent.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:31 pmLIBTARDS: RETARDED LIBS.
REDUNDANT, I’LL READILY ADMIT!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
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“INCOHERENT”????
THIS FROM A TERRORIST-CODDLING, AMERICA-HATING, PIAPS-LOVING DEMLIB WHO CAN’T EVEN THINK!!!!!!
R O T F L M A O ! ! ! ! !
SOMETIMES THESE JIHAD SITE JUST CRACK ME UP!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:36 pmSOMETIMES THESE JIHAD SITE JUST CRACK ME UP!!!!!!
Comment by RALPH — August 26, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
My goodness. What a meaningless comment.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:37 pmLIBTARDS: RETARDED LIBS.
REDUNDANT, I’LL READILY ADMIT!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
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“INCOHERENT�???
THIS FROM A TERRORIST-CODDLING, AMERICA-HATING, PIAPS-LOVING DEMLIB WHO CAN’T EVEN THINK!!!!!!
R O T F L M A O ! ! ! ! !
SOMETIMES THESE JIHAD SITE JUST CRACK ME UP!!!!!!
Comment by RALPH — August 26, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
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Me too!!!
HEyOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooOOOOOOOoooOOooooOOOooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:38 pmAh the cocopuffs
August 26th, 2007 at 7:41 pmHmmm. they seem to be losing their posie. Wonder why.
They really didn’t have much of a valid viewpoint to present, did they?
August 26th, 2007 at 7:41 pmMy goodness. What a meaningless comment.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 26, 2007 @ 7:37 pm
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You just can’t handle the truth, liberal.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:41 pmWhat good news? What freedom agenda? Do you refer to the sectarian cleansing now proceeding in Iraq under our occupation? Estimated 500,000 displaced by surge alone…countless killed….such good news to who. By freedom agenda do you refer to our attempts to monopolize Iraqi oil with our oil corps? We need to cleanse our government of these GOP money grubbing, troop abusing, elitists.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:41 pmComment by jb — August 26, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
Democrats and Republicans all agree that the surge has worked. Only the kook far left fringe (moonbats) think that America is a failure. Because of that, you are traitors to the United States and should be treated as such.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:43 pmThe surge is working to kill 600 US troops further divide and destroy what is left if Iraq and you can’t even get the oil stolen. GOP losers who will go the way of all previous fascist regimes.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:46 pmOnly the kook far left fringe (moonbats) think that America is a failure. Because of that, you are traitors to the United States and should be treated as such.
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
Again, such broad generalizations, they’re meaningless.
Please define “moonbats”.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:47 pmDEM losers (Defeatocrats) will lie in lieu of all the facts that point to the contrary.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:47 pmp, your hourly crackups are proof of the failure of Bushtard’s policies, and the moral emptiness of the remaining 10% of Bush-supporting traitors. There can be no other explanation for such irrational behavior, except meth abuse. Either way, you look and sound like a retarded 4-year-old with diaper rash. Youcan call yourself VA hustler (we know you’re a cheap whore) or RALPH (we know you’re sick), and you can employ whatever juvenile tricks your Mattel computer will let you, but you don’t fool anybody: only the desperation of losing so completely and or being so utterly wrong would drive anyone to the extremes you have taken. it’s the same reason Bush stutters and stammers; lies so open and obvious are hard even for his sociopathic personlity to deliver without giving himself away. You are doing us a big favor, however, by undermining what little speck of credibility the GOP might have been able to find with a magnifying glass and tweezers. We will bury you and your pig party, and you will never again see power as long as you live.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:47 pmDEM losers (Defeatocrats) will lie in lieu of all the facts that point to the contrary.
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
Please define “Defeatocrats” and please substantiate your claim w/ valid facts.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:48 pmDefeatocrats: Defeatist/Democrats
Ex: ronjazz
August 26th, 2007 at 7:50 pmComment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
Please define “Defeatocrats†and please substantiate your claim w/ valid facts.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 26, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
yes, and after that turn this lead into gold, and here’s a loaf of bread, feed all the Iraqis.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:50 pmWe’re winning, we’re winning. Look we have killed a million Iraqis and only lost 3,700+ of our good soldiers, run up a massive debt largely to China, run our military into the ground, tried and failed to steal Iraqi oil, destroyed a massive amount of infrastructure in Iraq while neglecting our own. We’re winning, we’re winning.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:53 pmEx: ronjazz
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
See, you ignorant fool, wrong on both counts. if I were a defeatist, I’d be blowing Bush like you do. If I were a Democrat, I’d be registered as such.
Thanks for exposing your complete and utter ignorance of fact, and proving to all of us what an idiot you are. Not that we hadn’t looked at the evidence and come to that conclusion on our own, but you confirmed it.
We own you, and as the owners, we’re flushing the gOP once and forever. You are even now swirling the bowl along with the turds you “elected”. Hold your nose; lord knows we have to!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:55 pmYoucan call yourself VA hustler (we know you’re a cheap whore)
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Ironic… the same place I’m makin’ figgas at…
Dat dere’s da same land dey usta hang n***as at.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:56 pmEx: ronjazz
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
Yet another reading comprehension problem. I could care less what you consider to be an ‘example” of “Defeatocrat”. What I asked for was a precise, exact definition of “Defeatocrat”. Perhaps it is a meaningless term, no? Care to define your own terms, clearly? Or do you not understand the words you use?
August 26th, 2007 at 7:56 pmWe’re winning, we’re winning. Look we have killed a million Iraqis and only lost 3,700+ of our good soldiers, run up a massive debt largely to China, run our military into the ground, tried and failed to steal Iraqi oil, destroyed a massive amount of infrastructure in Iraq while neglecting our own. We’re winning, we’re winning.
Comment by jb — August 26, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
According to Kagan and the other treasonous Bushista whores, that was the original plan.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:57 pm“… Yes, and after that turn this lead into gold, and here’s a loaf of bread, feed all the Iraqis.”
Comment by ronjazz — August 26, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
Agreed, ronjazz.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:57 pmIronic… the same place I’m makin’ figgas at…
Dat dere’s da same land dey usta hang n***as at.
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
Keep it coming, we know you can sink lower than that. cheap, cowardly racism is just a small chapter in your playbook to weaken America and turn it over to the Saudis.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:58 pmThese last few floaters really do stink. May need to bleach the bowl once they are flushed.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:58 pmComment by ronjazz — August 26, 2007 @ 7:58 pm
If you use the “*” that means it’s not racist.
Nice try.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:00 pmDEATH TO
August 26th, 2007 at 8:02 pmISLAMO-STALINISM!!!!!!!!
GOD BLESS
The UNITED STATES
of AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DOWN WITH The DEFEATIST,
ANTI-AMERICAN,
DemocRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What’s up, RALPH?
It’s me, Konservo!
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:29 pm
HEY, KONSERVO!!!!
DID YOIU READ THAT ANTISEMITIC DRIVEL FROM FISK?!?!?!?!
HE’LL BE DENYING THE HOLOCAUST NEXT!!!!
HE IS A HATEFUL PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:03 pmIf you use the “*†that means it’s not racist.
Nice try.
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
wow, you must think even educated people are as sick as you are. it’s the thought that counts, racist, not the *. Now that you’re thoroughly exposed, p, I think it’s time for you to go. You’ve destroyed even your meager entertainment value with that hateful tripe. This is America, it’s no place for you.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:03 pm9/11 TRUTH [SIC] MOVEMENT = NEO-NAZIS!!!!!
HATERS!!!! HATERS!!!! HATERS!!!!
DEMLIB = TERRORIST = DEMLIB!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:04 pmDOWN WITH The DEFEATIST,
ANTI-AMERICAN,
DemocRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
not this time, traitor. you’re done. move, while you can.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:04 pmHEY, KONSERVO!!!!
DID YOIU READ THAT ANTISEMITIC DRIVEL FROM FISK?!?!?!?!
HE’LL BE DENYING THE HOLOCAUST NEXT!!!!
HE IS A HATEFUL PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!
Comment by RALPH — August 26, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
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I sure did! Thanks for keeping me informed.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:04 pm9/11 TRUTH [SIC] MOVEMENT = NEO-NAZIS!!!!!
HATERS!!!! HATERS!!!! HATERS!!!!
DEMLIB = TERRORIST = DEMLIB!!!!!
Comment by RALPH — August 26, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
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RALPH,
Did you catch the History Channel program where they debunked all of the 9-1-1 Twoofers LIES!!!
It was on last week, they will probably play it again soon.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:06 pm9-1-1 Twoofers = Anti-Americans
so why does Fat Fagan not enlist? Why do none of the war supporters have the balls to actually do something besides lie and steal the taxpayers’ money? Are they all like VA hustler, little scaredy-cat racist morons without a shred of decency or patriotism? Or are they agents of foreign governments, like those with dual citizenships, whose loyalty can be questioned in every way?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:07 pmWhen the asylums were emptied, during the Reagan administration, little did we know they created the base for H.W. Bush’s idiot man-child.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:08 pmIn the meatime, p plays with himself here in public. No shame, these rightards. No morals. Their parents should be jailed for child abuse.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:08 pmRalph,
If you missed it, here is a link from The History Channel regarding the next time the program will be aired:
August 26th, 2007 at 8:09 pmhttp://www.history.com/ shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=242324
THE HISTORY CHANNEL EXPOSED YOU LYING LIBERALS FOR THE TRAITORS YOU ARE!!!!!!
YOU MAKE ME SICK, YOU UNAMERICAN SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:10 pmI thought conservatives were for responsibility. Blessings, even from an imaginary being, must be earned. Killing a million innocents, abusing our own troops for a pack of lies, trying to steal oil from another country, running the USA into massive debt to enrich a few cronies doesn’t strike me as the kind of thing any imaginable God would bless.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:10 pmFigures the rightards would get their “facts” from the Hitler channel. Bush family supported Hitler, Saddam and Noriega, so it’s no surprise that the resident Sybil troll also supports America’s enemies.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:11 pmMr Pus. When you discredit yourself on one thread, you discredit yourself on all threads.
NEXT ALIASS PLEASE!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:12 pmSo the history channel doesn’t reveal that 9/11 happened on bush’s watch, and that he is the sole owner of that responsibility? Or the anthrax attacks, also George’s responsibility? Didn’t defend the USA, doesn’t care if anyone is caught. This is the intellectually and physically laziest leader in the world today, also the world’s leading terrorist, through his laziness and stupidity.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:13 pmYOU MAKE ME SICK, YOU UNAMERICAN SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
well, admitting to being sick is a good first step. now, if you would just get yourself committed, perhaps the world would be a safer place.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:15 pmMy vote is for:
Some demented, psychopathic conservative who lets George Bush sit on his face to mask it in glory?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:16 pmLooks like whatever monitoring TP had done earlier in the day to keep out the trolls has broken down and Mr Pee is back at his most childish. A shame, really. It also looks like the frustration of not being able to post his asinine comments built up a lot of pressure in his tiny brain and he’s snapped earlier than usual. Or, maybe mommy brought him a few extra cans of Red Bull.
And he brought his idiot lover with him.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:16 pmConservatives were never for responsibility, unless it’s someone else’s. there havs never been a movement so craven and cowardly as the modern American conservative movement. And movement is the word, as we hit the flusher.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:16 pmThis is the intellectually and physically laziest leader in the world today, also the world’s leading terrorist, through his laziness and stupidity.
Comment by ronjazz — August 26, 2007 @ 8:13 p
No God I have ever heard of would bless this miserable excuse for a human being….in fact there may be Hell to pay, let alone the real costs we all are incurring thanks to this scum and his blind followers.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:18 pmNo God I have ever heard of would bless this miserable excuse for a human being….in fact there may be Hell to pay, let alone the real costs we all are incurring thanks to this scum and his blind followers.
Comment by jb — August 26, 2007 @ 8:18 pm
YOU ANTI-AMERICAN, TERRORIST-LOVING, ISLAMOPHILE!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR TO The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!
YOU SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:21 pmIf God were present, and involved, in the universe neocons would not survive childhood.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:22 pmKagan is correct. The surge has been a huge success.
Comment by Brassmask — August 26, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
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Exactly right!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:23 pmWhat part of DISCREDITED don’t you understand Mr. Pus.
NEXT ALIASS PLEASE!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:24 pmMust I sink to your level of discourse? OK, then…I know you are, but what am I?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:24 pmBlind faith in miserable failure of a leader is not a responsible or patriotic position.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:27 pmI think there is a lot of compensation going on among pussy armchair warriors like Kagan.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:28 pmMust I sink to your level of discourse? OK, then…I know you are, but what am I?
Comment by jb — August 26, 2007 @ 8:24 pm
Ignore the troll. He’s just here for attention and if you ignore him he’ll get more and more obnoxious but eventually will wander off. Or not, but one thing we know for sure is that responding to him just encourages him to post more infantile comments.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:29 pmkagan apparently does sit in his chair and advocate doing something, instead of getting his fat ass up and doing it himself. that guy really needs to lose some weight. serious, that’s just unhealthy.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:35 pmBuk-buk-buk-buk bbwwwaaakkk! buk-buk-buk-buk-bwaaakkk!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:37 pmKagan is correct. The surge has been a huge success. i just wish he wouldn’t pull out before I surge!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:38 pmRalph & Pee, did you believe your heroes when they said “greeted as liberators, war will pay for itself, Saddam has stockpiles of WMD, in their last throes, just a few dead-enders, etc, etc.”?
BTW, there are plenty of Neo-Nazis in the USA and they are not shy about telling you how they feel. They think EXACTLY like you and despise Progressives.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:48 pmWhat has anyone of the armchair warriors, neo-conservatives, thugs of the crime family, or any of the bootlicking, asskissing, knuckle dragging, tolls been right about in the past six years? They expect anyone to believe them when they say it is a success when every statement they have made for the past six years has been absolute bullshit.
Go to hell warmongers, you are worthless scumbags. Better yet, trolls, get your sorry asses to the recruitment stations immediately, we can do without your kind of insanity and ignorance.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:49 pmExactly how much does American Enterprise Institute pay him for this BS?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:49 pmWhile some trolls may not be members of the Nazi Party, probably can’t afford the dues, they are sympathizers. Just another symptom of their profoundly disturbed nature.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:50 pmExactly right!!!!!!
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 8:23 m
You ought to be ashamed of yourself!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:51 pmCheating all those poor old crotchety men in the Veterans Administration!!!
enough for five meals a day at least? just a guess. probably enough for a membership in a classy health club too, but you know he is so busy “advocating” other people do something, who has the time?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:52 pmExactly how much does American Enterprise Institute pay him for this BS?
Comment by Keith — August 26, 2007 @ 8:49 pm
However much it is, he’s AIPAC’s best friend, I’m sure there’s some side money pouring in, you know, shekels.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:53 pmLIBERALS ARE TRAITORS TO The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!
YOU SHOULD ALL LEAVE THE COUNTRY, YOU PATHETIC LEFTISTS!!!!!
YOUR LEFTO-STALINISM WILL NEVER WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:59 pmWhy isn’t anyone talking about the main reason this mess was started: this desert disaster is a gigantic vehicle for massive profits called a war.They had to put some name on this other than stealing.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:59 pmThis is not a war.
The people responsible and who continue to create imaginary goals and timeframes are the very criminal of the very criminal.
Their only intent or goal is to continue this huge huge open vault stealing with no account.
It’s all sewage and always has been.
If they wanted (or even needed) to take the bad guy out they could have arrested him.The end.Everyone should know that.
But that would have used no military, no distruction to rebuild, and no lable of war where anything goes without all the extra overseight.
Plus vp man and his designated p get to say everything is about war.
What war?They are the only ones saying war all the time.
This is a gigantic distraction from the biggest heist in history.
Boy, am I just absolutely impressed with bold style and lots and lots of exclamation points!
August 26th, 2007 at 9:00 pmWowwed!!
Comment by Johnsnottoodistracted — August 26, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
WHY ARE YOU SPREADING LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
YOU ISLAMOSTALINIST PROPAGANDA-B*TCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 9:00 pmAll about Oil, Iraq’s Oil, and Cheney’s bloodthirsty cabal of friends wanting it.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:02 pmThere’s a damn good reason we never found out who and what was discussed in 2001 when Darth held his Energy symposium.
yeah, enron took over the pentagon and brought arthur andersen along for the ride.
i’ve been referring to this “war” as Operation Money Launder for about four years now. good post… you speak what many feel to be the truth.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:03 pmI’d imagine it isn’t too hard to hustle old men at the VA hospital, but what a despicable thing to be/do.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:03 pm#
Comment by Johnsnottoodistracted — August 26, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
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Precisely correct….not war, but massive Corporate theft of our and our children’s tax dollars thanks to privatization. Lots of blood spilled but W and Company don’t care a whit about Iraqi or US troop deaths as long as the $ holds out.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:07 pm