Escalation Architect Bemoans Label Of ‘Armchair General,’ Claims Iraqi Deaths Are ‘Way Down’
Escalation Architect Bemoans Label Of ‘Armchair General,’ Claims Iraqi Deaths Are ‘Way Down’
This weekend on Washington D.C. ABC affiliate’s Capital Sunday, Center for American Progress Iraq analyst Brian Katulis debated American Enterprise Institute’s military analyst — and Iraq escalation architect — Fred Kagan.
“Right now, Iraq is in civil war. It’s in fact in multiple civil wars,” Katulis said. “And I don’t think that these military tactics that these armchair generals and the academics offer up fundamentally address the core issue — that Iraqis are in a vicious struggle for power.”
Taking issue with Katulis’ description of him as an “armchair general,” Kagan complained that “you only get called an armchair general when you actually advocate doing anything.” Speaking as an armchair general, Kagan went on to claim “sectarian killings are way down,” despite an AP report that Iraqi deaths have doubled so far this year.
Watch it:
Katulis rejected Kagan’s assertion that Iraqi deaths are “way down”:
Sectarian killing is not down. If you look at the NIE, they say the places where Baghdad has become stabilized, it’s because of sectarian cleansing. Baghdad used to be a 65 percent Sunni majority city. Now it’s 75 percent [Shia], and we’re standing there and watching this happen while the militias are right underneath our nose, infiltrated in the very security forces that we’re supporting. And this raises big questions about what the heck we’re doing over there.
Armchair general Fred Kagan has advocated escalation so the U.S. can militarily confront Syria and Iran in the future. He said of escalation last month, “Whatever you can say about the current strategy, it has not failed.”
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I love it. What is failure? I do not know. No one knows. You can only determine success or failure in terms of what your goals are in the operation. Bush and his ilk are quite adept at never really quite defining the goas or the metrics by which to judge the success or failure of their actions.
The is the nonaccountable administration. They can never be judged. Thus, they can never have made a mistake. GOD HELP US ALL.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:51 pmFor those interested in a psychological analysis of warmongering, I have recently completed a 10-minute online video entitled “Resisting the Drums of War.†It examines how the Bush administration has promoted the misguided and destructive war in Iraq by targeting five core concerns that often govern our lives--concerns about vulnerability, injustice, distrust, superiority, and helplessness. Looking ahead, the continuing occupation of Iraq--or an attack on Iran--will likely be sold to us in much the same way. The video examines these warmongering appeals and how to counter them. It’s available for viewing HERE.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:51 pmKagan is correct. The surge has been a huge success.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:52 pmFrodo Kagan has been wrong with every statement, prediction, stance and claim he's made about Iraq.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:54 pmConsistent, yes, consistently wrong.
"lose the war" - Kagan helped, Bush ok'd it.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:54 pmFred Kagan sits in his armchair and discusses his mighty plans "success" and denies being an armchair general.
It appears that Fred is about to explode from the hypocrisy.
Or perhaps that is just a sympathy surge he has going on?
August 26th, 2007 at 2:55 pmBrian Katulis is the one who got it wrong. He is ignoring all of the success brought on by the surge. He lives in a fantasy world.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:56 pmJohn Kerry is an armchair general. He fabricated his record in Vietnam and now he acts like he knows what he is talking about.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:57 pm[...] "Baghdad used to be a 65 percent Sunni majority city. Now it’s 75 percent,..."
Sunni?
Shiite, I believe.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:59 pmBrian Katulis is the one who got it wrong. He is ignoring all of the success brought on by the surge. He lives in a fantasy world.
Comment by Brassmask
Brassmask, let me introduce you to a fantasy world: YOURS...Geez, I thought we were alomst out of kool-aid. I guess we have a 'surge' in kool-aid now.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:59 pmIt's as if wingers were trying to prove they're insane.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:00 pmJohn Kerry is an armchair general. He fabricated his record in Vietnam and now he acts like he knows what he is talking about.
Comment by Brassmask — August 26, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Prove that, liar. And offer up any proof that the surge is working besides the statements of the proven liars you're quoting. Otherwise, STFU.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:03 pmPerry, I just checked out your website. You are a freakin kook.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:03 pmThe surge has been a huge success.
Comment by Brassmask — August 26, 2007 @
Success for whom? The dead soldiers? The dead and displaced Iraqis? Or do you mean the continued ruination of our exhausted military? Oh yeah, the private contractors continue to rake in our children's tax dollars. A success that is dragging our great country down. Keep up the good work traitor.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:03 pmJohn Kerry lied about going into cambodia.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:04 pmBrassmask, let me introduce you to a fantasy world: YOURS…Geez, I thought we were alomst out of kool-aid. I guess we have a ’surge’ in kool-aid now.
Comment by Tom — August 26, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
THis is the reincarnation of mr. p from his meth meltdown last night. Just ignore his rants and he will get mad and go away.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:05 pmBrassmask doesn't care about the real facts, and that the facts indicate that civilian deaths in Iraq have doubled.
Bassmask only wants them thar downhome good ole boy facts, them god fearin' chimp lovin' facts, them facts that only can exist in the mind of a completely insane conservative at this point.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:10 pmThis is the same guy (Kagan) who is also pushing the Deserter in Chief and 5 Deferment Cheney to attack Iran. Truly, a Moron of the 1st order.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:11 pmAnd Perry, I like your site. Just looked at it after Brasshat piqued my curiosity about it. Have to look at it more. I've got it bookmarked.
If this was true, every Democrat would be calling for a withdrawl from Iraq and would be willing to cut off funds.
But it’s not true.
Comment by Brassmask — August 26, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
You need to provide proof, not add to your list of lies and treasonous statements. We understand that you are envious of heroes like Kerry who actually did battle against the enemy, showing far more courage than you or any of the members of the Bush madministration, but you don't get away with those lies here. Take them to the rest of your traitor buddies on redstate or lgf, where the antiAmericans hang out, afraid to enlist, afraid to fight.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:14 pmWe've "lost" the war (not that anyone really knows what "won" or "lost" means in Iraq). Time to bring the troops home.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:15 pmAll spin all the time.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:15 pmTHis is the reincarnation of mr. p from his meth meltdown last night. Just ignore his rants and he will get mad and go away.
Comment by upside00
FU. I have been posting here since day one! Not going anywhere. If you are a friend of Brassmask, then you are no friend of mine or America's. Who needs you anyway?
August 26th, 2007 at 3:16 pmhey, assmask, you're outnumbered here by 10 to 1, just like the way the whole country is going. What is wrong with you that you can't see the truth that 90% of Americans see? Keep going after Kerry; you'll never earn a Silver Star or Purple heart, much less the numerous other medals kerry earned, and the Navy confirmed. Coward.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:17 pmpay attention, Tom. upside00 was refering to assmask, not you.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:19 pmWhat will be gained by staying ???????
the true answer is Nothing or Oil
August 26th, 2007 at 3:19 pmIs an assmask something you wear to hide the identity of your ass? Or is it a mask that looks like an ass but that your wear on your face? Or is it just some demented, psychopathic conservative who lets George Bush sit on his face to mask it in glory?
August 26th, 2007 at 3:22 pm"every Democrat would be calling for a withdrawl" they can't because they would be skewered by the corporate (republic666an) press with all the usual name calling and the American sheeple with their short attention span would buy into the name calling. This is what a republic666an monopoly on MSM information has gotten us. We deserve just what we get for sleeping at the wheel while these evil self serving cretins destroy our country.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:22 pmhttp://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2007/08/akmaydjinedjad-reiterates-nuclear.html
August 26th, 2007 at 3:23 pmLess banal speech from Akmaydjinedjad: he marks new hope for his nuke program.
pay attention, Tom. upside00 was refering to assmask, not you.
Comment by ronjazz
My bad...Too early for thinking. I apologize to you upside00. Your one of us - I should have known since i read your posts almost daily. I walk away ashamed...Too early for thinking.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:27 pmFU. I have been posting here since day one! Not going anywhere. If you are a friend of Brassmask, then you are no friend of mine or America’s. Who needs you anyway?
Comment by Tom — August 26, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
Read the piece more carefully before responding! It was Asshat I had copied and was referring to!
August 26th, 2007 at 3:31 pmLet's just agree to ignore assmask, since he's here to disrupt, not converse.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:32 pmTom,
Disregard my post on #29, wrote before I saw your response, sorry. We are all on the good side!
August 26th, 2007 at 3:32 pmJust remember: "WAR IS PEACE", Black is white, Deaths are way down etc etc... ye olde lie.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:33 pmYeah...It gets confusing sometimes. I get so mad at folks like Brass that i start typing without thinking...Sorry again. No excuses from me. My apolgies again to you.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:35 pmOne question, how in the hell does Kagan expect anyone to think he's credible?
When you've blown as many calls as he has, you shouldn't expect anything but derisive sneers at your continued flupperations.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:37 pmIf there will be any legacy PudgeBoy rover leaves behind, it will be the GOP ability to spin ANYTHING like a Maytag in full motion that distorts things so the brain-dead Repug sheeple will believe it.
Just like the Jonestown followers, who couldn't let go of one crazy MoFo long enough to escape back to reality.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:37 pmMaybe an assmask is a special type of oxygen mask a conservative has to wear in order to keep breathing oxygen while they have their head up their ass. That is, they need to wear an assmask until their body gets used to breathing in a pure methane environment. If that's the case, it must be a very essential item of conservative paraphernalia.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:52 pmWASHINGTON - GOP Sen. John Warner, who wants U.S. troops to start coming home from Iraq by Christmas, said Sunday he may support Democratic legislation ordering withdrawals if President Bush refuses to set a return timetable soon.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:53 pmThat's good! Now why don't you buy us all a drink, ya' cheap bastad.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:58 pmThe surge has been a huge success.
Comment by Brassmask
Thats a completely truthful statement. Remember genius Tony Snows said that success meant more chaos and destruction? There ya go!
August 26th, 2007 at 4:01 pmThe statute of limitations just expired for John Kerry to bring slander charges against the authors of Unfit for Command. All of the statements made in that book are true about Kerry. This is why he refused to file suit. Kerry fabricated his record in Vietnam and lied about going into Cambodia.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:05 pmCertainly. But once two people know a secret, one of them has to die. So, if Kerry lied about Cambodia, who did he kill to keep it covered up?
August 26th, 2007 at 4:06 pmBuy the book in my URI link. It's all true.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:07 pmThat's okay - I trust that everything you've said is true. I don't need to buy the book.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:09 pmSen. Kerry permits last statute of limitations for defamation to lapse, forever barring any defamation claim against SwiftVet authors O'Neill and Corsi
http://beldar.blogs.com/beldarblog/2007/08/sen-kerry-permi.html
August 26th, 2007 at 4:10 pmPosters like Brassmask serve a purpose. If he/she makes a point you are unsure about, do your research and respond with facts. If he/she just wants to incite anger with the same old Fox News, Sean Hannity, black is white, white is black, knock this battery off my shoulder, go on I dare you, rant...take a deep breath...post something that actually makes sense, and win every time. :)
John Kerry? Who cares? This is about Iraq, you know, bad policy, criminal execution, no good options left. If you have any ideas beside "stay the course" lets have it.
My opinion, OK
Go BIG or Go Home.
Go big means raising military salaries as much as needed to create the forces needed to place at least 300,00 troops on the ground. Then we put a strongman in place. Then we train and equip him with an army. Now we are at least back to where we started from. Cost no limit, raise taxes and cut domestic programs to pay for it. It should be completed in 7-10 years.
Or go home and watch Iraq burn.
Like Thomas Ricks said this morning on MTP, there are no good options left
August 26th, 2007 at 4:13 pmI guess his his only recourse now is to track down the men what slandered him, and administer a good old-fashioned ass-whuppin'.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:14 pmLike Thomas Ricks said this morning on MTP, there are no good options left
Comment by Samsara — August 26, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
I don't think this is true, and I've been suggesting the same thing for several years: partition. It's not guarantee of peace in our time, but a reasonable and fair distribution of "Iraq" into northern Kurdistan, central Sunnistan and southern Shiiastan (whew), including an equitable distribution to the Sunnis of oil revenue from north and south, would at least have a chance of some stability.
The biggest hindrance to the idea is the attitude of the surrounding countries, especially Turkey, who is chomping at the bit for an opportunity to subdue the Kurds.
Well, that and the fact the this administration has repeatedly refused to consider partition as an option.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:17 pmComment by Brassmask — August 26, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
Blah blah blah john kerry blah blah blah . . . you've got nothing, as usual. "Look over there!"
August 26th, 2007 at 4:19 pmHey, it's hard to believe a Bush Troll would want to talk about John Kerry instead of George W. Bush's losing record.
-GSD
August 26th, 2007 at 4:21 pmWhen did Kagan go to Iraq for his four hour tour?
August 26th, 2007 at 4:21 pmThe armchair general keeps raising the meme: "what happens when we leave?" without ever acknowledging that the disaster on the ground is a direct result of an invasion he and his buddies pitched in the first place. We might actually get somewhere if these bast@rds would first concede that they were the ones that screwed everything up.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:22 pmThe statute of limitations just expired for John Kerry to bring slander charges against the authors of Unfit for Command. All of the statements made in that book are true about Kerry. This is why he refused to file suit. Kerry fabricated his record in Vietnam and lied about going into Cambodia.
Comment by Brassmask
So, I guess that the FACTS printed in Kitty Kelly's
"The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty"
http://www.amazon.com/Family-Real-Story-Bush-Dynasty/dp/0385503245
are ALSO all TRUE, since the Bushes NEVER brought a lawsuit against her.
Bush's COCAINE USE, being AWOL, Daddy's TREASON,
Grandpa's Hitler TREASON.
Good enough for Kerry,
Good enough for TRAITOR Bushes...
August 26th, 2007 at 4:22 pmHey, it’s hard to believe a Bush Troll would want to talk about John Kerry instead of George W. Bush’s losing record.
Thats cause the truth is George signed up for a 6 year stint then bailed out after 4 years in the Champagne unit protecting the dangerous skies over Texas.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:24 pmFrowm what I know of Kagan his intellectual feat is German war history. That helps explain the 'Shock and Awe' mentality we heard so much about. Less troops, technology, a cake walk of a war, only one Friedman Unit long!
August 26th, 2007 at 4:26 pmTaking issue with Katulis’ description of him as an “armchair general,†Kagan complained that “you only get called an armchair general when you actually advocate doing anything.â€
Not when your advocacy results in catastrophe, and quagmire.
If the Iraqis had greeted us with hug and kisses, Kagan would be a god among men. Now, he's simply another think-tanker, hulled on the rocks of his own hubris.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:26 pmAugust 26th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
Baghdad wikipedia
In April 2004, USA Today reported that a follow-up Gallup poll in Baghdad indicated that "only 13 percent of the people now say the invasion of Iraq was morally justifiable.
Lets try that question again in 2007
August 26th, 2007 at 4:30 pmOr go home in 10 years, and watch Iraq burn. Or, more realistically, our lil' Dictator wipes out his opposition and the sect they belong to - only burning the city when he really needs to - and terrorizes the remaining population into submission. Nice democracy ya' got there. If that's all the Republicans got, I wouldn't hire one to run a lemon aid stand - much less a war.
There never were any good options. The war was a stupid idea. That's why anyone who supported the war or GWB can honestly be referred to as an imbecile.
Comment by Samsara — August 26, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
August 26th, 2007 at 4:32 pmThe Right's biggest fear is that the U.S. will leave Iraq & the killing will stop.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:34 pmGo big means raising military salaries as much as needed to create the forces needed to place at least 300,00 troops on the ground.
Thats what the Generals initially wanted, some 400,000 troops on the ground to secure the country. Instead they went with Rumsfeld and Cheney who thought guided missiles and smart bombs would do the trick with only 140,000 troops. Shock and Awe. Parades of Roses.
Business men and think-tanks slide rule geeks shouldn't be making war plans. It was a bad plan from the get go.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:37 pmPerpetual peace through perpetual war.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:38 pmNow, as the President seeks another $145 billion to fund the Iraq and Afghanistan wars through September 2008,
http://vcnv.org/project/the-occupation-project
August 26th, 2007 at 4:40 pmgummitch
Partition may be an option, but if we are going to do it , there will have to be a re-commitment to Iraq. Money and troops will have to be raised and George Bush lacks the public trust and political clout to do either. It would have to take place after Jan 08, and I don't know how a new President could rally support for another effort. It would be easier to blame the Iraqi’s, and blame the other party, and move on. Also, you are correct that Turkey would go ape s--t.
I guess I don't think of partition as being a "good" option.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:40 pmHEALTHCARE & THE WAR ARE “SiCKOâ€
One fourth of the Iraq war budget alone could fund healthcare for every uninsured person in this country.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:41 pmTP is getting pathetic. The war is almost over, as the United States is on the verge of victory, and this is best TP can come up with to smear conservatives.
Ha!
August 26th, 2007 at 4:45 pmComment by Liberal-at-large
Uh oh, there is a convict on the loose!
August 26th, 2007 at 4:46 pmTPmademeaRepublican, define victory in Iraq.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:47 pmNow, as the President seeks another $145 billion to fund the Iraq and Afghanistan wars through September 2008,
so let me get this right your all going to pay $600 for every man women and child in America to watch another 600 troops die IN ONE YEAR
strange mentality going on here ?????
August 26th, 2007 at 4:49 pmIt is so transparent that BUsh and the armchair generals like Kagan will dump all the blame for their debacle onto the next administration.
"We were on the way to victory then a dang democrat got elected."
August 26th, 2007 at 4:53 pmI can hear it now.
Comment by TPmademeaRepublican — August 26, 2007 @ 4:45 pm
It was a Freedom Operation, remember? To win the Hearts and Minds of the Iraqi people and to install Democracy. If they dont want Democracy then its their loss. (R)Hoekstra has admitted as much.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070825/NEWS06/708250330/1008/NEWS06
U.S. Rep. Peter Hoekstra said Iraq's tribal, Islamic culture is not receptive to democratic ideals. He said Bush should consider other ways to control Iraq, whose government, he said, is floundering under Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
From a FREEP site no less...
August 26th, 2007 at 4:57 pmHoekstra made me a
conservativeDemocratBWAH.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:59 pm#1 you nailed it. When was the last time you had a project to accomplish where you did not have to set the "goal"?? Never probably. Yet Dumbyo-yo gets away with giving the appearance of a legitimate goal when that goal has never been clearly defined. What a trick, indeed. No goal means that success or failure cannot be defined either...stand to reason. Without any measure of success or failure which was agreed upon when establishing the "goal of the project", guess what??? It all comes down to a semantical argument with nothing being able to be defined or resolved. Precisely what these morons wanted it to be.....an everlasting occupation without goals.
It's the exact MO they used when they went into Iraq without defining the enemy -- which means that without an enemy, there can be no goal.
What illogical bullshit we've been fed....and continue to be fed daily.
When they say the "dumming down of america" this is precisely what they mean. People are so dumbstruck that they don't even know how to logically and legitimately wrap their brains around this level of propaganda and bullshit.
August 26th, 2007 at 5:05 pmTo save any remaining credibility, the Brookings Institute must immediately publicly rebuke and sever ties with Mike O’Whore for taking money as a paid propagandist for the Bush White House. We all knew that Broder was a butt buddy of Rove’s, but Mike too?
Outrageous in the extreme and even more outrageous that the MSM rags continue to fail to disclose and report all of these conflicts of interest.
August 26th, 2007 at 5:07 pmSeriously, the next time Dumbyoyo comes to congress asking for more money, people will be throwing rotten tomatoes at him. The people can't wait for the election cycle to begin to get this fool on the hill out of the public arena. He's one huge embarrassment.
August 26th, 2007 at 5:08 pmI got my rotten tomatoes locked and loaded.
August 26th, 2007 at 5:48 pmThink Progress, and the liberal retards that come here, embolden terrorists and hate America. TP liberals are traitors and should be treated as such!
August 26th, 2007 at 5:55 pmAs Mr P writes- HHHHHHEEEYYYYYOoOoOOOooOOOoOOoOOooOOoOOoOOooOOOoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoo!!
August 26th, 2007 at 6:02 pmComment by TPmademeaRepublican
If you dont go to Iraq your a traitor and should be treated as such,
August 26th, 2007 at 6:03 pmHoekstra and the GOP retards that don't come here, such as (R) Hoekstra and (R) Warner embolden terrorists and hate America. GOP are traitors and should be treated as such!
Comment by TPmademeaDemocrat August 26, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
Fixed Your Latest Histerical Myopic Temper Tantrum To Match Reality Mr P (Or P clone)
Now flop down on the floor, flail your arms, kick your legs, and start moaning like the little baby you are.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:09 pmAmerica in peril thanks to greed of war profiteers, wearing out our over stretched military. Thanks blind GOP followers.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:10 pmNow flop down on the floor, flail your arms, kick your legs, and start moaning like the little baby you are.
Comment by Gen Kaye Hoss — August 26, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
He does this on a regular basis now. So sad to watch, probably even sadder for his mommy.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:23 pmThanks blind GOP followers.
Comment by jb — August 26, 2007 @ 6:10 pm
Think any of them will see the light when the Big Flush comes in 09?
August 26th, 2007 at 6:24 pmThink Progress, and the liberal retards that come here, embolden terrorists and hate America. TP liberals are traitors and should be treated as such!
Comment by TPmademeaRepublican — August 26, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
You can't be helped until you ask for help.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:28 pmHi folks! (Not Billo's folks) It sure seems like the trolls, and the criminals thay support, are growing desperate. Their break with reality is becoming their permanent state. Very sad.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:32 pmThe trolls may be growing desperate, but unfortunately the criminals they support are growing RICH. Mission Accomplished
August 26th, 2007 at 6:34 pmThink Progress, and the liberal retards that come here, embolden terrorists and hate America. TP liberals are traitors and should be treated as such!
Comment by TPmademeaRepublican — August 26, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
Ah, the beer must be kicking in.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:37 pmI doubt this last 20% of blind GOP followers will ever wake up. Some know the jig is up, but refuse to say so. Others will have regrets of some sort when the war comes home. And it always does. Depleted Uranium, PTSD, cancer trauma, but hey have you seen the price of Halliburton stock or the profits of the oil Corp.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:38 pmMakes me sick.
Comment by TPmademeaRepublican — August 26, 2007 @ 4:45 pm
"The war is almost over, as the United States is on the verge of victory"
_________
Gee, how long do you think this latest set of insurgent "last throes" will last? How many more 6 month periods until we finally enter the period of the last, last, very last throes?
August 26th, 2007 at 6:40 pmGee, how long do you think this latest set of insurgent “last throes†will last? How many more 6 month periods until we finally enter the period of the last, last, very last throes?
Comment by UpFromTheSkies — August 26, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Then when we reach that point, Kristol will say we are just 6 more months away.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:46 pmSorry if this is a repeat post, but I wanted everyone to know:
Keith Olbermann will be on NBC (yup. Prime time.)
at 7:00 tonight,
I believe it's his debut.
Let's all give him our support.
PS - It might have been nice for TP to do a small announcement of this since our cause is so important, but then again, it is the (small though we may be) people who spread the word.
Goodnight.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:54 pmBushco can still do plenty of damage but, desperate people make mistakes. Like citing the "positives" of Vietnam. All that should be necessary is to let them continue discrediting themselves.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:55 pmAh, the beer must be kicking in.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — August 26, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
I don't think beer can be blamed in this case.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:57 pmAll that should be necessary is to let them continue discrediting themselves.
Comment by pete — August 26, 2007 @ 6:55 pm
Yep. When in a hole, the first you need to do is stop digging, unless your name is George Bush. In that case, by all means, keep digging!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:03 pmThe statute of limitations just expired for John Kerry to bring slander charges against the authors of Unfit for Command. All of the statements made in that book are true about Kerry. This is why he refused to file suit. Kerry fabricated his record in Vietnam and lied about going into Cambodia.
Comment by Brassmask — August 26, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
what book? I never saw a copy anywhere. Did Scaife buy them all up to prevent embarrassment of the Right, like he does Coulter's trash?
August 26th, 2007 at 7:09 pmReminder:
Keith Olbermann & Countdown On NBC Tonight 7pm EST
it's great!!! and on PRIME TIME !!!!!!
can the peoples take it???
can they handle the truth???
heh...
August 26th, 2007 at 7:12 pm"Kagan is correct. The surge has been a huge success.
Comment by Brassmask"
It has been a success for the insurgents, but certainly not for us. It has not brought us any closer to closing the oil theft with the Iraqi's. It has caused 600+ more deaths. It has bankrupted us to the tune of billions per month that we can't hope to pay back (China now owns us). It has not brought the government in Iraq any closer to any kind of reconciliation.
You are right. Our escalation has been a huge success for the insurgents. Congratulations Rethugs...I'm sure the parents of those 600+ who lost their lives because of you are eternally grateful for your lemming devotion to the man who is leading you off a cliff.
May god have mercy on your souls.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:17 pm"The statute of limitations just expired for John Kerry to bring slander charges against the authors of Unfit for Command. All of the statements made in that book are true about Kerry. This is why he refused to file suit. Kerry fabricated his record in Vietnam and lied about going into Cambodia."
Wow, this kind of logic boggles the mind. Because Kerry didn't file a slander suit against someone, that means what they wrote was the truth. Amazing. Where did you get those critical thinking skills? Did you buy them somewhere?
August 26th, 2007 at 7:23 pmDid you buy them somewhere?
Comment by bilbogaggins — August 26, 2007 @ 7:23 pm
Home schooling???
August 26th, 2007 at 7:25 pmComment by katy — August 26, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
Who's that? Another moonbat, unAmerican, terrorist-coddling, muslim-loving, liar?
Typical.
- VA HU$TLER
August 26th, 2007 at 7:27 pmYOU LIBTARD DEFEATOCRATS CAN'T STAND TO HEAR GOOD NEWS ABOUT PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH'S FREEDOM AGENDA, CAN YOU?
AMERICA WILL WIN, LOSERS!!!!!
FREEDOM IS ON THE MARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:28 pmWhat's up, RALPH?
It's me, Konservo!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:29 pmWho’s that? Another moonbat, unAmerican, terrorist-coddling, muslim-loving, liar?
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
Please define your terms - "moonbat", "terrorist-coddling", "muslim-loving", otherwise, your comment has no meaning.
Please explain why someone would be "unAmerican", too.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:30 pmYOU LIBTARD DEFEATOCRATS CAN’T STAND TO HEAR GOOD NEWS ABOUT PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH’S FREEDOM AGENDA, CAN YOU?
Comment by RALPH — August 26, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
Please define "LIBTARDS" clearly. Otherwise, your comment is incoherent.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:31 pmLIBTARDS: RETARDED LIBS.
REDUNDANT, I'LL READILY ADMIT!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
"INCOHERENT"????
THIS FROM A TERRORIST-CODDLING, AMERICA-HATING, PIAPS-LOVING DEMLIB WHO CAN'T EVEN THINK!!!!!!
R O T F L M A O ! ! ! ! !
SOMETIMES THESE JIHAD SITE JUST CRACK ME UP!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:36 pm
SOMETIMES THESE JIHAD SITE JUST CRACK ME UP!!!!!!
Comment by RALPH — August 26, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
My goodness. What a meaningless comment.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:37 pmLIBTARDS: RETARDED LIBS.
REDUNDANT, I’LL READILY ADMIT!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
“INCOHERENT�???
THIS FROM A TERRORIST-CODDLING, AMERICA-HATING, PIAPS-LOVING DEMLIB WHO CAN’T EVEN THINK!!!!!!
R O T F L M A O ! ! ! ! !
SOMETIMES THESE JIHAD SITE JUST CRACK ME UP!!!!!!
Comment by RALPH — August 26, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
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Me too!!!
HEyOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooOOOOOOOoooOOooooOOOooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:38 pmAh the cocopuffs
August 26th, 2007 at 7:41 pmHmmm. they seem to be losing their posie. Wonder why.
They really didn't have much of a valid viewpoint to present, did they?
August 26th, 2007 at 7:41 pmMy goodness. What a meaningless comment.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 26, 2007 @ 7:37 pm
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You just can't handle the truth, liberal.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:41 pmWhat good news? What freedom agenda? Do you refer to the sectarian cleansing now proceeding in Iraq under our occupation? Estimated 500,000 displaced by surge alone...countless killed....such good news to who. By freedom agenda do you refer to our attempts to monopolize Iraqi oil with our oil corps? We need to cleanse our government of these GOP money grubbing, troop abusing, elitists.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:41 pmComment by jb — August 26, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
Democrats and Republicans all agree that the surge has worked. Only the kook far left fringe (moonbats) think that America is a failure. Because of that, you are traitors to the United States and should be treated as such.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:43 pmThe surge is working to kill 600 US troops further divide and destroy what is left if Iraq and you can't even get the oil stolen. GOP losers who will go the way of all previous fascist regimes.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:46 pmOnly the kook far left fringe (moonbats) think that America is a failure. Because of that, you are traitors to the United States and should be treated as such.
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
Again, such broad generalizations, they're meaningless.
Please define "moonbats".
August 26th, 2007 at 7:47 pmDEM losers (Defeatocrats) will lie in lieu of all the facts that point to the contrary.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:47 pmp, your hourly crackups are proof of the failure of Bushtard's policies, and the moral emptiness of the remaining 10% of Bush-supporting traitors. There can be no other explanation for such irrational behavior, except meth abuse. Either way, you look and sound like a retarded 4-year-old with diaper rash. Youcan call yourself VA hustler (we know you're a cheap whore) or RALPH (we know you're sick), and you can employ whatever juvenile tricks your Mattel computer will let you, but you don't fool anybody: only the desperation of losing so completely and or being so utterly wrong would drive anyone to the extremes you have taken. it's the same reason Bush stutters and stammers; lies so open and obvious are hard even for his sociopathic personlity to deliver without giving himself away. You are doing us a big favor, however, by undermining what little speck of credibility the GOP might have been able to find with a magnifying glass and tweezers. We will bury you and your pig party, and you will never again see power as long as you live.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:47 pmDEM losers (Defeatocrats) will lie in lieu of all the facts that point to the contrary.
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
Please define "Defeatocrats" and please substantiate your claim w/ valid facts.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:48 pmDefeatocrats: Defeatist/Democrats
Ex: ronjazz
August 26th, 2007 at 7:50 pmComment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
Please define “Defeatocrats†and please substantiate your claim w/ valid facts.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 26, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
yes, and after that turn this lead into gold, and here's a loaf of bread, feed all the Iraqis.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:50 pmWe're winning, we're winning. Look we have killed a million Iraqis and only lost 3,700+ of our good soldiers, run up a massive debt largely to China, run our military into the ground, tried and failed to steal Iraqi oil, destroyed a massive amount of infrastructure in Iraq while neglecting our own. We're winning, we're winning.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:53 pmEx: ronjazz
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
See, you ignorant fool, wrong on both counts. if I were a defeatist, I'd be blowing Bush like you do. If I were a Democrat, I'd be registered as such.
Thanks for exposing your complete and utter ignorance of fact, and proving to all of us what an idiot you are. Not that we hadn't looked at the evidence and come to that conclusion on our own, but you confirmed it.
We own you, and as the owners, we're flushing the gOP once and forever. You are even now swirling the bowl along with the turds you "elected". Hold your nose; lord knows we have to!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:55 pmYoucan call yourself VA hustler (we know you’re a cheap whore)
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Ironic... the same place I'm makin' figgas at...
Dat dere's da same land dey usta hang n***as at.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:56 pmEx: ronjazz
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
Yet another reading comprehension problem. I could care less what you consider to be an 'example" of "Defeatocrat". What I asked for was a precise, exact definition of "Defeatocrat". Perhaps it is a meaningless term, no? Care to define your own terms, clearly? Or do you not understand the words you use?
August 26th, 2007 at 7:56 pmWe’re winning, we’re winning. Look we have killed a million Iraqis and only lost 3,700+ of our good soldiers, run up a massive debt largely to China, run our military into the ground, tried and failed to steal Iraqi oil, destroyed a massive amount of infrastructure in Iraq while neglecting our own. We’re winning, we’re winning.
Comment by jb — August 26, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
According to Kagan and the other treasonous Bushista whores, that was the original plan.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:57 pm"... Yes, and after that turn this lead into gold, and here’s a loaf of bread, feed all the Iraqis."
Comment by ronjazz — August 26, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
Agreed, ronjazz.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:57 pmIronic… the same place I’m makin’ figgas at…
Dat dere’s da same land dey usta hang n***as at.
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
Keep it coming, we know you can sink lower than that. cheap, cowardly racism is just a small chapter in your playbook to weaken America and turn it over to the Saudis.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:58 pmThese last few floaters really do stink. May need to bleach the bowl once they are flushed.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:58 pmComment by ronjazz — August 26, 2007 @ 7:58 pm
If you use the "*" that means it's not racist.
Nice try.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:00 pmDEATH TO
August 26th, 2007 at 8:02 pmISLAMO-STALINISM!!!!!!!!
GOD BLESS
The UNITED STATES
of AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DOWN WITH The DEFEATIST,
ANTI-AMERICAN,
DemocRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What’s up, RALPH?
It’s me, Konservo!
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:29 pm
HEY, KONSERVO!!!!
DID YOIU READ THAT ANTISEMITIC DRIVEL FROM FISK?!?!?!?!
HE'LL BE DENYING THE HOLOCAUST NEXT!!!!
HE IS A HATEFUL PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:03 pmIf you use the “*†that means it’s not racist.
Nice try.
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
wow, you must think even educated people are as sick as you are. it's the thought that counts, racist, not the *. Now that you're thoroughly exposed, p, I think it's time for you to go. You've destroyed even your meager entertainment value with that hateful tripe. This is America, it's no place for you.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:03 pm9/11 TRUTH [SIC] MOVEMENT = NEO-NAZIS!!!!!
HATERS!!!! HATERS!!!! HATERS!!!!
DEMLIB = TERRORIST = DEMLIB!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:04 pmDOWN WITH The DEFEATIST,
ANTI-AMERICAN,
DemocRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
not this time, traitor. you're done. move, while you can.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:04 pmHEY, KONSERVO!!!!
DID YOIU READ THAT ANTISEMITIC DRIVEL FROM FISK?!?!?!?!
HE’LL BE DENYING THE HOLOCAUST NEXT!!!!
HE IS A HATEFUL PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!
Comment by RALPH — August 26, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
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I sure did! Thanks for keeping me informed.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:04 pm9/11 TRUTH [SIC] MOVEMENT = NEO-NAZIS!!!!!
HATERS!!!! HATERS!!!! HATERS!!!!
DEMLIB = TERRORIST = DEMLIB!!!!!
Comment by RALPH — August 26, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
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RALPH,
Did you catch the History Channel program where they debunked all of the 9-1-1 Twoofers LIES!!!
It was on last week, they will probably play it again soon.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:06 pm9-1-1 Twoofers = Anti-Americans
so why does Fat Fagan not enlist? Why do none of the war supporters have the balls to actually do something besides lie and steal the taxpayers' money? Are they all like VA hustler, little scaredy-cat racist morons without a shred of decency or patriotism? Or are they agents of foreign governments, like those with dual citizenships, whose loyalty can be questioned in every way?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:07 pmWhen the asylums were emptied, during the Reagan administration, little did we know they created the base for H.W. Bush's idiot man-child.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:08 pmIn the meatime, p plays with himself here in public. No shame, these rightards. No morals. Their parents should be jailed for child abuse.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:08 pmRalph,
If you missed it, here is a link from The History Channel regarding the next time the program will be aired:
August 26th, 2007 at 8:09 pmhttp://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=242324
THE HISTORY CHANNEL EXPOSED YOU LYING LIBERALS FOR THE TRAITORS YOU ARE!!!!!!
YOU MAKE ME SICK, YOU UNAMERICAN SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:10 pmI thought conservatives were for responsibility. Blessings, even from an imaginary being, must be earned. Killing a million innocents, abusing our own troops for a pack of lies, trying to steal oil from another country, running the USA into massive debt to enrich a few cronies doesn't strike me as the kind of thing any imaginable God would bless.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:10 pmFigures the rightards would get their "facts" from the Hitler channel. Bush family supported Hitler, Saddam and Noriega, so it's no surprise that the resident Sybil troll also supports America's enemies.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:11 pmMr Pus. When you discredit yourself on one thread, you discredit yourself on all threads.
NEXT ALIASS PLEASE!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:12 pmSo the history channel doesn't reveal that 9/11 happened on bush's watch, and that he is the sole owner of that responsibility? Or the anthrax attacks, also George's responsibility? Didn't defend the USA, doesn't care if anyone is caught. This is the intellectually and physically laziest leader in the world today, also the world's leading terrorist, through his laziness and stupidity.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:13 pmYOU MAKE ME SICK, YOU UNAMERICAN SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
well, admitting to being sick is a good first step. now, if you would just get yourself committed, perhaps the world would be a safer place.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:15 pmMy vote is for:
Some demented, psychopathic conservative who lets George Bush sit on his face to mask it in glory?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:16 pmLooks like whatever monitoring TP had done earlier in the day to keep out the trolls has broken down and Mr Pee is back at his most childish. A shame, really. It also looks like the frustration of not being able to post his asinine comments built up a lot of pressure in his tiny brain and he's snapped earlier than usual. Or, maybe mommy brought him a few extra cans of Red Bull.
And he brought his idiot lover with him.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:16 pmConservatives were never for responsibility, unless it's someone else's. there havs never been a movement so craven and cowardly as the modern American conservative movement. And movement is the word, as we hit the flusher.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:16 pmThis is the intellectually and physically laziest leader in the world today, also the world’s leading terrorist, through his laziness and stupidity.
Comment by ronjazz — August 26, 2007 @ 8:13 p
No God I have ever heard of would bless this miserable excuse for a human being....in fact there may be Hell to pay, let alone the real costs we all are incurring thanks to this scum and his blind followers.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:18 pmNo God I have ever heard of would bless this miserable excuse for a human being….in fact there may be Hell to pay, let alone the real costs we all are incurring thanks to this scum and his blind followers.
Comment by jb — August 26, 2007 @ 8:18 pm
YOU ANTI-AMERICAN, TERRORIST-LOVING, ISLAMOPHILE!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR TO The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!
YOU SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:21 pmIf God were present, and involved, in the universe neocons would not survive childhood.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:22 pmKagan is correct. The surge has been a huge success.
Comment by Brassmask — August 26, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
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Exactly right!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:23 pmWhat part of DISCREDITED don't you understand Mr. Pus.
NEXT ALIASS PLEASE!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:24 pmMust I sink to your level of discourse? OK, then...I know you are, but what am I?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:24 pmBlind faith in miserable failure of a leader is not a responsible or patriotic position.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:27 pmI think there is a lot of compensation going on among pussy armchair warriors like Kagan.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:28 pmMust I sink to your level of discourse? OK, then…I know you are, but what am I?
Comment by jb — August 26, 2007 @ 8:24 pm
Ignore the troll. He's just here for attention and if you ignore him he'll get more and more obnoxious but eventually will wander off. Or not, but one thing we know for sure is that responding to him just encourages him to post more infantile comments.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:29 pmkagan apparently does sit in his chair and advocate doing something, instead of getting his fat ass up and doing it himself. that guy really needs to lose some weight. serious, that's just unhealthy.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:35 pmBuk-buk-buk-buk bbwwwaaakkk! buk-buk-buk-buk-bwaaakkk!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:37 pmKagan is correct. The surge has been a huge success. i just wish he wouldn't pull out before I surge!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:38 pmRalph & Pee, did you believe your heroes when they said "greeted as liberators, war will pay for itself, Saddam has stockpiles of WMD, in their last throes, just a few dead-enders, etc, etc."?
BTW, there are plenty of Neo-Nazis in the USA and they are not shy about telling you how they feel. They think EXACTLY like you and despise Progressives.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:48 pmWhat has anyone of the armchair warriors, neo-conservatives, thugs of the crime family, or any of the bootlicking, asskissing, knuckle dragging, tolls been right about in the past six years? They expect anyone to believe them when they say it is a success when every statement they have made for the past six years has been absolute bullshit.
Go to hell warmongers, you are worthless scumbags. Better yet, trolls, get your sorry asses to the recruitment stations immediately, we can do without your kind of insanity and ignorance.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:49 pmExactly how much does American Enterprise Institute pay him for this BS?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:49 pmWhile some trolls may not be members of the Nazi Party, probably can't afford the dues, they are sympathizers. Just another symptom of their profoundly disturbed nature.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:50 pmExactly right!!!!!!
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 8:23 m
You ought to be ashamed of yourself!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:51 pmCheating all those poor old crotchety men in the Veterans Administration!!!
enough for five meals a day at least? just a guess. probably enough for a membership in a classy health club too, but you know he is so busy "advocating" other people do something, who has the time?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:52 pmExactly how much does American Enterprise Institute pay him for this BS?
Comment by Keith — August 26, 2007 @ 8:49 pm
However much it is, he's AIPAC's best friend, I'm sure there's some side money pouring in, you know, shekels.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:53 pmLIBERALS ARE TRAITORS TO The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!
YOU SHOULD ALL LEAVE THE COUNTRY, YOU PATHETIC LEFTISTS!!!!!
YOUR LEFTO-STALINISM WILL NEVER WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:59 pmWhy isn't anyone talking about the main reason this mess was started: this desert disaster is a gigantic vehicle for massive profits called a war.They had to put some name on this other than stealing.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:59 pmThis is not a war.
The people responsible and who continue to create imaginary goals and timeframes are the very criminal of the very criminal.
Their only intent or goal is to continue this huge huge open vault stealing with no account.
It's all sewage and always has been.
If they wanted (or even needed) to take the bad guy out they could have arrested him.The end.Everyone should know that.
But that would have used no military, no distruction to rebuild, and no lable of war where anything goes without all the extra overseight.
Plus vp man and his designated p get to say everything is about war.
What war?They are the only ones saying war all the time.
This is a gigantic distraction from the biggest heist in history.
Boy, am I just absolutely impressed with bold style and lots and lots of exclamation points!
August 26th, 2007 at 9:00 pmWowwed!!
Comment by Johnsnottoodistracted — August 26, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
WHY ARE YOU SPREADING LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
YOU ISLAMOSTALINIST PROPAGANDA-B*TCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 9:00 pmAll about Oil, Iraq's Oil, and Cheney's bloodthirsty cabal of friends wanting it.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:02 pmThere's a damn good reason we never found out who and what was discussed in 2001 when Darth held his Energy symposium.
yeah, enron took over the pentagon and brought arthur andersen along for the ride.
i've been referring to this "war" as Operation Money Launder for about four years now. good post... you speak what many feel to be the truth.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:03 pmI'd imagine it isn't too hard to hustle old men at the VA hospital, but what a despicable thing to be/do.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:03 pm#
Comment by Johnsnottoodistracted — August 26, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
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Precisely correct....not war, but massive Corporate theft of our and our children's tax dollars thanks to privatization. Lots of blood spilled but W and Company don't care a whit about Iraqi or US troop deaths as long as the $ holds out.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:07 pm"...another Hearst-a-thon. The History Channel is owned and operated by the Hearst corporation, and of course Pop Mechanics is a Hearst magazine."
...
Coming Soon: The Mother Of All 9/11 Truth Hit Pieces
History Channel, Popular Mechanics, NBC & Hearst Publishing team up for smear job as conflicts of interest run rife
An upcoming documentary entitled The 9/11 Conspiracies, to be aired on the History Channel, may represent the biggest hit piece to date on the 9/11 truth movement and is rife with bias, cronyism and conflicts of interest.
[...]
http://www.911blogger.com/node/10346#comment-156373
long ago, i began referring to it as "hitler-y channel"...
now they've got 9/11 to dwell on also...
Hearst ... knows how to start wars...
August 26th, 2007 at 9:07 pm...
LOOK AT YOUR DAMNED SITE, TP!
THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT?
REGISTRATION - IT TAKES MERE MINUTES, YOU DAMNED HYPOCRITES.
YOUR SITE IS THE LAUGHINGSTOCK OF PROGRESSIVE SITES - GOING DOWN IN FLAMES JUST LIKE YOUR DEAR LEADER HILLARY
"I'LL NEVER BE ELECTABLE" CLINTON.
THIS IS NOW A TROLL HAVEN BECAUSE YOU DO NOTHING!
August 26th, 2007 at 9:08 pmHIL-DAWG (PIAPS) BROKE THE LAW!!!!!!
SHE WILL NEVER BE ELECTED!!!!!
HERE'S THE PROOF:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
August 26th, 2007 at 9:08 pmIf Kagan and his destruction cheerleaders were to have their way, we'd have nuked Iran and Syria and started the third world war.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:09 pmAnd Cheney would be sitting there chuckling over all the bbqd briwn people.
And the final card in the neocon deck would be played.
briwn? how bout brown>
August 26th, 2007 at 9:09 pmI just now got the V.A. hustler joke--hahahaha
August 26th, 2007 at 9:10 pmsorry about the caps to all you fine people here.
I needed to wake some jokers up.
katy, I didn't know that about History Channel.
Now I'm not sure if I'll watch their "Ice Road Truckers" series.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:10 pm;)
We do know something of what happened at Cheney's Energy Task Force. Judicial Watch got the March 2001 map dividing up Iraq into "exploration blocks".
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/466503255_f7bb4d5e85_o.jpg
August 26th, 2007 at 9:13 pmkaty, I didn’t know that about History Channel.
Now I’m not sure if I’ll watch their “Ice Road Truckers†series. ;)
Comment by trueblue — August 26, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
as with most everything - good with the bad...
August 26th, 2007 at 9:18 pmi figured it for a propoganda vehicle long ago, but just found out
today that hearst owns it...
...
Hearst lied us into the Spanish-American War. Remember the Maine
August 26th, 2007 at 9:19 pmAfter the Spanish-American War, we killed 400,000 Filipinos because they didn't want us ruling them.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:21 pmtrueblue, I'm still undecided whether TP should banish the trolls regardless of how annoying they are. It heartens me to see how ineffectual neocons are when left to spout their gibberish. Plus it's kinda fun to poke 'em and watch them discredit themselves.
BTW Mr. Pus.
NEXT ALIASS PLEASE!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 9:23 pmAugustus Markarios Pee, VA Huckster! You get your fanny perpendicular right now young man and take those plastic sheets off your bed and wash the week old dried urine off them!!
August 26th, 2007 at 9:26 pmI am not going to tell you again, next time I am going to hang your wet sheets out the front window for the whole neighborhood to see!
And what is this hate your spewing about those poor oppressed people that suffered under Saddam all those years? We are trying to help free them and win their hearts and minds not make them hate us by your hateful remarks, how do you expect them to create a Democracy when your constantly agitating them with your fascist Stalinist rants?
Just wait till your father Muhammad Rasheed Hussein gets home!
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August 26th, 2007 at 9:27 pmMMRules's blog
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
August 26th, 2007 at 9:27 pmPlus it’s kinda fun to poke ‘em and watch them discredit themselves.
BTW Mr. Pus.
NEXT ALIASS PLEASE!!!
Comment by pete — August 26, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
"The manipulated living will do anything to save themselves from oblivian"
I forget who said it but it seems to fit.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:33 pmSigned in katy, with this message
August 26th, 2007 at 9:36 pmKeep it political, we've got mountains to move where the Rush's have dumped their crap for years.
Comment by Keith — August 26, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
The Kurds are currently allowing the Chinese to explore for oil.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:36 pm[This outta send Mr P into a IslamoStalinist Communist Tizzy]Iraq, China to revive Saddam-era oil deal as Baghdad seeks ...
China and Iraq are reviving a 1997 deal worth US$1.2 billion
Hil-DAWG CLINTOOOON is a criminal. She will be underoath soon.
SHe will pay for her crimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
August 26th, 2007 at 9:37 pmOnly the kook far left fringe (moonbats) think that America is a failure. Because of that, you are traitors to the United States and should be treated as such.
Comment by VA HU$TLER — August 26, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
*chuckle*
So, thinking that America has failed at something is traitorous behavior? Is that right? Are you saying America has never had any failures? If not, the only other option is that you are suggesting that Americans never, ever talk about their failures so as to prevent them from recurring. Either stance is absolutely laughable on its face. Discussing our failures, such as Vietnam, Korea, and Iraq, among countless others, makes us BETTER, makes America STRONGER, and moreover does not DOOM US TO REPEAT THOSE MISTAKES AGAIN.
Nice try. Wait, what am I saying, that was a friggin' pathetic "try".
August 26th, 2007 at 9:38 pmComment by Mrs Pee — August 26, 2007 @ 9:36 pm
Maybe that's why there are rumours of a coming "coup" in Iraq.
I feel funny talking to Mrs. Pee.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:39 pmIsn't Kagan on the list of neocons who are to be rounded up and sent to the Hague for war crimes and crimes against humanity?
August 26th, 2007 at 9:39 pmOh yes, and how could I forget. Mr. VA HU$STLER President the Konservo:
HEYOOOOOOoooooOOOOOoooooOOOOOoooooOOOOOooooo!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 9:40 pmHil-DAWG CLINTOOOON is a criminal. She will be underoath soon.
SHe will pay for her crimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
Comment by http://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks — August 26, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
The dung is everywhere.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:41 pmCLINTOOOOOOON is a felon!!!!!!
She will be underoath soon trying, and failing, to defend herself!!!!!!
CLINTOOOOON BRoke the LAW!!!!!!!!!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
August 26th, 2007 at 9:41 pmhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
Comment by http://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks — August 26, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
The is everywhere.
Comment by WaltTheMan — August 26, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
CLINTOOOOOOOOOOOOON broke the LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
August 26th, 2007 at 9:42 pmIt's as if there is a troll out there suffering from a massive bout of diarrhea.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:46 pmI feel funny talking to Mrs. Pee Comment by Keith
You ever see that British show about the Buckets and she insists her name is really pronounced 'Bouqet'? Heh.
Yeh, I have heard about this possible coup. Seems everyone in Iraq is really fighting for control of the resources and using every thing else as an excuse. The reason the Cheney Energy meetings have been able to keep secrets is because the DOE is one of 14 intelligence communities. Economic security today is National Security.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:48 pmCannot TP use some means to shut this shit (And I use this term civilly.) down?
August 26th, 2007 at 9:50 pmMr P I'm on dialup, what is this youtube thing your flooding about?
August 26th, 2007 at 9:51 pmhttp://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:Rh2i6Lsq_w8J:www.hillcap.org/Appellants_Final_Reply_Brief.pdf+peter+f.+paul&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=10&gl=us
DEMS AND LIBS ARE LIARS AND ARE GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 9:54 pmDEMS AND LIBS ARE LIARS AND ARE GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 9:56 pmCannot TP use some means to shut this shit (And I use this term civilly.) down?
Comment by WaltTheMan — August 26, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
It is annoying but serves to remind us just how out of touch the neocons are. Plus, it would just find a way, by sneaking into a computer lab or something, to whine about censorship. Why give credence to it's paranoid ravings?
August 26th, 2007 at 10:02 pmDEMS AND LIBS ARE LIARS AND ARE GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 26, 2007 @ 9:56 pm
RSS feed for comments on this post.
You wish. You're a fraud.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:07 pmComment by WaltTheMan — August 26, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
Mr P's website is kinda interesting. What heppened between that and what he does here who knows? Besides he certainly isn't winning any converts to the his Republican Greek Platos retreat Bolton Federalist society thing.
Okay, Mr I read that, looks like a frivolous lawsuit to me.
Their interference caused
Oto to renege on a promised $5 million investment in SLM [Paul]
So Paul lost his investor [OTO] and his company SLM folded and hes blaming Hillary Investors do that. And he wants the money back he put into the WJC Gala Salute.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:07 pmComment by Mrs P. Markarios — August 26, 2007 @ 10:07 pm
That's not Swifty's point!
August 26th, 2007 at 10:10 pmThat’s not Swifty’s point!
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 26, 2007 @ 10:10 pm
No, swifty's point is between swifty's ears. swifty is a fraud, as is doug.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:13 pmWhy give credence to it’s paranoid ravings?
Comment by pete — August 26, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
It's so weird as to be enticing. Sort of a siren's song
August 26th, 2007 at 10:15 pmThat’s not Swifty’s point!
Thats what your link directed me to.
Paul [SLM] is accusing Hillary of conspiracy and fraud leading to the demise of SLM because the investor [Oto] reniged on his investment in SLM.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:15 pmSwifty!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 10:16 pmNot content to slander a candidate who's yet to be nominated (obviously a futile effort) Mr. Pus will most likely start on it's philosophical opponents. Untrue accusations? Offensive comments under another's name? Or just more impotent rage?
It's tricks are not terribly tricky.
Let us observe.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:16 pmComment by pete — August 26, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
Comment by ronjazz — August 26, 2007 @ 10:07 pm
My only complaint is that TP devotes more resources to suppressing post by myself, Rose, RUCerious, Zooey, BnF, etc then it does to these creeps. They even delete my job profiles for Jake.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:17 pmComment by Mrs P. Markarios — August 26, 2007 @ 10:15 pm
No. Whether you think it is frivolous or not is besides the point!!!
Swifty!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 10:17 pmComment by Swifty the Boat — August 26, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
State your point in concise terms then and not a bunch of ad-hominem attacks which is your opinion and BESIDE THE POINT.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:24 pmNo. Whether you think it is frivolous or not is besides the point!!!
Swifty!!!!!!!!
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 26, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
Everybody here knows you rightard freaks will make up whatever you think will distract the American people from the matter at hand; the utter treason of the entire bush apparatus. Hillary and Bill Clinton have had every single rightwing hatemonger after them for many years, and nothing has stuck. Nothing. So give it up; your envy of a successful president and his brilliant wife is understandable, but fruitless. Nobody on the right will ever accomplish as much as they did, nobody in the GOP will ever be as popular worldwide as Bill Clinton. Nothing you can do or say will take away the accomplishments of Clinton, the medals of Kerry, the service of Al Gore, or the superiority of governance of the Democratic Party over the repigs throughout modern history. You can't make WW2 a reepuke win, since you all fought against going to war, and you can't make Iraq a liberal loss, since you all defend the murderous policies of a fratboy deserter sociopath and his group of thieves. The right's deceptive, fraudulent, unsubstantiated lies are in full view of the american public, and they get it. The GOP is done, and good riddance; the conservative movement is flushed. America will regain her freedom and place of leadershi in the world when liberals take her back from the Republicant thugs and whores that stole her.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:27 pm>THE HISTORY CHANNEL EXPOSED YOU
> LYING LIBERALS FOR THE TRAITORS YOU ARE!!!!!!
YOu mean like these lying liberal traitors from the reagan administration?
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
what do you have to say about these guys mr. pee
August 26th, 2007 at 10:27 pmhttp://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
are these the lying liberal traitors you speak of?
August 26th, 2007 at 10:27 pmI share your frustration Walt and I have sent a couple "Fix your effing site" e-mails as well. But, consider this; while Mr. Pus is aggravating us he isn't organizing Bownshirt rallies or molesting children.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:29 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_F._Paul
August 26th, 2007 at 10:31 pmjust as i - and most here - had hoped... countdown was great:
Countdown On NBC: Worst Person In The World - Comedian Rush Limbaugh
By: Logan Murphy @ 5:10 PM - PDT
Keith Olbermann made the most of the nationwide, broadcast debut of “Countdown.†Thankfully, NBC chose not to water down the show for the masses and let Keith be Keith. Tonight’s Worst Person In The World winners were as follows: Director of National Intelligence, Mike McConnell gets the worse award, Bill O’Reilly of Fixed News gets the Worser and the winner and Worst Person honors went to comedian Rush Limbaugh for this insane statement earlier this week:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/
note also - keith is up against 60 minutes...
August 26th, 2007 at 10:33 pmi had to watch the One Laptop Per Child segment...
very cool.
...
I told you Mr. Pus, I'm never going to click a link provided by you. Probably end up with a duplicate credit card sent to Uganda. So you have, once again, discredited yourself.
NEXT ALIASS PLEASE!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 10:35 pmIn August 2004, the SEC formally filed its complaint against Peter Paul for the manipulation of Stan Lee Media's stock in violation of the antifraud provisions of Section 17(a) of the Securities Act of 1933, Section 10(b) of the Securities Exchange Act, and SEC Rule 10b-5.[39]
This guy Peter Paul doesn't seem very trustworthy Mr P.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:35 pmComment by pete — August 26, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
Heh. I bet P's initials are RL [Arel]
I dont worry about P's links as I have no credit cards and three hard drive formatted and ready to plug in if something happens to this one.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:39 pmwhile Mr. Pus is aggravating us he isn’t organizing Bownshirt rallies or molesting children.-Pete
I feel sorry for that blow-up doll under his bed always having a little fun poked at it.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:41 pmI dont worry about P’s links as I have no credit cards and three hard drive formatted and ready to plug in if something happens to this one.
Comment by Mrs P. Markarios — August 26, 2007 @ 10:39 pm
I doubt Mr. Pus is capable of damage anyway. However, I don't eat off the floor. One can't be too careful.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:42 pmSounds like Paul was a drug dealer, fraudster, and fled to Brazil to avoid extradition. BTW, Hillary is my least favorite Democrat. Except for Zell Miller.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:43 pmComment by ronjazz — August 26, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
HA... HAHA... HAHAHAHA... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 10:43 pmSwifty!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 10:44 pmuh huh...
First Lady Cancels Trip to Australia
New York Times - 58 minutes ago
By AP CRAWFORD, Tex., Aug. 26 (AP) - Laura Bush has canceled plans to accompany the president on a trip next month to Australia, citing a pinched nerve, her office said Sunday.
Laura Bush Cancels APEC Trip With President Because of Injury Bloomberg
First lady Bush has pinched nerve, to skip APEC Reuters
via the google news...
's ok, laura... we understand...
August 26th, 2007 at 10:45 pmit must be getting quite horrid trying to put up that front...
more drugs... must get numb.......
.
There's the psychotic break. How predictable.
NEXT ALIASS PLEASE!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 10:46 pmThe ArchBishop of Urine can rant his egomaniacal crap all he want's as far as I'm concerned. It takes up bandwidth, and is at times downright humorous. As the previous poster noted, at least it keeps him off the streets.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:47 pmHe's a farce, his site is just a bunch of college curriculum copied and pasted into some nice style sheet with a lot of getty images. He's a sad waste of humanity, and his parents got cheated on their college tuition they paid, as the critical thinking curriculum at George Mason sucks.
Swifty, they need volunteer firemen in Olympia, Greece. Clothing optional.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:47 pmBill Clinton have had every single rightwing hatemonger after them for many years, and nothing has stuck. Nothing.
Um, I think something did stick on that blue dress...
August 26th, 2007 at 10:47 pmThe "BJ that destroyed the world". Aren't you tired of that shtick? The world's still here. Duh!
August 26th, 2007 at 10:50 pmpete, they'll never tire of it, as it is the only thing they cling to as their pathetic raft of twigs and grass swirls down the 08 electoral toilet.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:52 pmComment by ronjazz — August 26, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
Bill Clinton, Commander in Splurt.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:52 pm*
TOTAL LUNAR ECLIPSE EARLY TUESDAY
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=3525380
and that means a full moon... and you know what that means...
August 26th, 2007 at 10:53 pmi suggest plenty of patience and nerves... or a leave of absence...
...
Actually a sign of weakness when one won't argue the points of an argument, but rather attacks the person....see various trolls above. Last few floaters circling the bowl, but not for long.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:54 pmpete, see what I mean. No admission of the clusterfu(k that is Iraq, not worried in the slightest about the trade imbalance and the Chinese owning our debt, not concerned about our military stretched paper thin, you know, fu(king traitors....
August 26th, 2007 at 10:54 pmI fear you're right RU. Which further demonstrates their minuscule level of reasoning ability. Even rats know when to leave a sinking ship.
Hey! That reminds me of a joke.
Q: What's the difference between a troll and a lab rat?
August 26th, 2007 at 10:56 pmA: There are some things a self-respecting rat simply won't do!
Sensible person: What can we do to end this "war" in Iraq and how can we recover our Constitutional rights and how will we repair the badly damaged USA.
Troll: Blue dress sputter sputter.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:57 pmand his parents got cheated on their college tuition they paid, as the critical thinking curriculum at George Mason sucks.
Comment by RUCerious
He appears to have fully bought into the "leadership principle"
[Anti-American Unitary Excutive Theory]
http://patriot.net/~bmcgin/unitaryexecutivetheory.html
Why, Mr P, would you want a King with advisors in America? Thats not what America is about at all and certainly not what George Washington foresaw.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:59 pmQ: What’s the difference between a troll and a lab rat?
A: There are some things a self-respecting rat simply won’t do!
Comment by pete — August 26, 2007 @ 10:56 pm
Did I miss something? Is there a joke here?
August 26th, 2007 at 11:00 pmNeocons and unitary GOP have retreated , but are rallying around there new flag...Blue dress.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:01 pmDid I miss something? Is there a joke here?
Comment by r — August 26, 2007 @ 11:00 pm
Why? Were your whiskers tingling?
August 26th, 2007 at 11:02 pmnot worried in the slightest about the trade imbalance and the Chinese owning our debt -RUC
This jives with an article i was just reading, I'm sure Mr P isn't worried about a recession either,
August 26th, 2007 at 11:03 pmhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml;jsessionid=4EFJ1B0K5B111QFIQMGSFFWAVCBQWIV0?xml=/money/2007/08/27/cnusecon127.xml
US Treasury Secretary Larry Summers warned that the United States may be heading into recession as the biggest victim to date of the sub-prime mortgage debacle was humiliatingly sold for a token sum in Germany.
Sensible person: What can we do to end this “war†in Iraq and how can we recover our Constitutional rights and how will we repair the badly damaged USA.
TP Progressive: Bush is McHitler, Rove is the Devil, Cheney is Darth Vader.
Comment by jb — August 26, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
Sorry about your glass house.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:04 pmNeocons and unitary GOP have retreated Comment by jb
They must have forget to let Mr P know.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:05 pmbut are rallying around there new flag…Blue dress.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:05 pmPerhaps their new anthem is "Devil with a Blue Dress on by Mitch Ryder"??
new flag…Blue dress. Comment by jb
Is that the one Rudia wore?
August 26th, 2007 at 11:06 pmSwifty!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 11:09 pmI'll type this one slow. So slow that r might even get it.
Q: How do you put a gleam in a troll's eye?
August 26th, 2007 at 11:09 pmA: Stick a flashlight in it's ear!
Why? Were your whiskers tingling?
Comment by RUCerious — August 26, 2007 @ 11:02 pm
I guess I don’t possess the progressive funny bone. I didn’t see an initial joke, and this rejoinder isn’t so funny to me.
Sorry, I don’t get it.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:10 pmIronical that swifty the boat is actually the dimmest bulb on the seven seas.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:11 pm#
Sorry about your glass house.
Comment by r — August 26, 2007 @ 11:04 pm
#
Is this a joke? I don't get it.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:12 pmSorry, I don’t get it.
Comment by r — August 26, 2007 @ 11:10 pm
Sorry, r. Did you hear the one about, oh.. well, never mind.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:13 pmTen Postulates of Political Correctness
Political correctness insinuates itself into the body politic under many aliases – multiculturalism, diversity, tolerance, conventional wisdom, progressive thought (how’s that for an oxymoron?), all the smelly little orthodoxies of our time. It comes in a number of varieties and flavors.
As a public service, I have gathered together the ten basic principles of PC. You might call them the Ten Postulates of PC; or maybe they could be couched in the imperative as the Ten Commandments of Multiculturalism.
1. America is uniquely evil.
2. America is never justified in defending itself.
3. Illiterate people from poor societies are superior to Americans.
4. The Earth would be better off without human beings.
5. Making a profit is always immoral.
6. Differences between individuals or groups are unfair.
7. For Designated Victim Groups, strong feelings excuse all behavior.
8. Policies informed by Judæo-Christian principles are inherently suspect.
9. Conservatives are hypocrites; liberals are sincere.
10. There are no acts of God; there are only acts of Government.
There are numerous corollaries, extensions, and exceptions to the Ten Postulates, so a little exegesis is in order.
1. America is uniquely evil.
American “democracy†is a charade. The US is really a fascist dictatorship ruled by the Bush cabal manipulated by Zionist neocons.
Other countries can be arranged in descending order of evil: Israel, Britain, Australia, Italy, and so on, until we arrive at the Arab countries, Iran, North Korea, and Cuba. Cuba, of course, has no evil in it whatsoever.
There are occasionally exceptions to American evil, but only under a Democratic administration, and with the approval of France and Germany.
2. America is never justified in defending itself.
War never solved anything. Negotiations through the UN are always the best way to address issues. Nations coming together in goodwill through common dialogue can work with each other to solve their problems. If Americans were more sensitive to the diverse concerns of other cultures, there would never be any aggression against us.
Etc blah yak.
3. Illiterate people from poor societies are superior to Americans.
People who are raised without all the technological distractions that afflict us in the West are better able to reach intuitive understanding of the world and live in tune with their environment. Just ask Drew Barrymore – she thinks it’s better to live in an earthen-floored hut without electricity than in a Malibu beach house.
Like, y’know, these people, they can, like teach us stuff about Mother Earth and all that.
4. The Earth would be better off without human beings.
Humankind is a scourge, an affliction, upon the face of the planet. We must reduce our ecological “footprintâ€, preferably to zero. The human population must be drastically reduced.
Exception: we Greens will remain, in order to decide who has to die.
5. Making a profit is always immoral.
Property is robbery. All economic activity should be controlled by special government bodies to make sure prices are fair and nobody gets ripped off. See #6 below.
6. Differences between individuals or groups are unfair.
Affirmative action. No child left behind. Everybody is above average. No game has a loser. Nobody is richer than anyone else. Nobody is stupider than anyone else. No one knows more than anyone else.
We await with eager anticipation the equality of the grave.
7. For Designated Victim Groups, strong feelings excuse all behavior.
When South Central LA is burning, it’s understandable because members of a Designated Victim Group were aroused to ire by a court verdict. When Arabs crash jets into skyscrapers, they’re angry because our policies have made them poor and backward, and, besides, Israel oppresses their Palestinian brothers. When a junior thug eliminates half his high school class with gunfire, it’s because he was bullied and held in contempt by jocks.
8. Policies informed by Judæo-Christian principles are inherently suspect.
To act on moral principles is judgmental, and we must not be judgmental. Except, of course, when condemning racists, sexists, homophobes, bigots, fundamentalists…
9. Conservatives are hypocrites; liberals are sincere.
If a conservative’s policies benefit his constituents, he’s being cynical. When a liberal lines his pockets with public funds, sleeps with his secretary, and assaults his subordinates – well, he’s doing it “for the childrenâ€.
10. There are no acts of God; there are only acts of Government.
When a tornado takes out a trailer park, the government’s warning system is inadequate. When a hurricane devastates South Florida, building codes must be improved, and FEMA will pay for the damage. When people die in floods, earthquakes, ice storms, and asteroid strikes, the government is to blame for not warning them or protecting them.
On the positive side, government creates jobs and distributes benefices through the generosity of its welfare programs. Government makes the sun to shine and the rain to fall, especially on subsidized agriculture.
Political correctness is a corrosive ideology that has eaten its way through most of the major institutions of Western culture, leaving them hollowed out and weakened in the face of the Great Islamic Jihad. Our enemy is filled with righteous zeal, ready to die for his beliefs, and has no doubt in the superiority of his religion. We Westerners, with our self-deprecatory posturing and theology of self-loathing, have inadequate spiritual defenses against this onslaught. It is past time to update our virus definitions before the PC Worm shuts us down.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:15 pmI’ll type this one slow. So slow that r might even get it.
Q: How do you put a gleam in a troll’s eye?
A: Stick a flashlight in it’s ear!
Comment by pete — August 26, 2007 @ 11:09 pm
Q: What’s the difference between a troll and a lab rat?
A: There are some things a self-respecting rat simply won’t do!
Comment by pete — August 26, 2007 @ 10:56 pm
Maybe it was the slower typing, but the latter was a lot better than the former.
Thanks.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:18 pmWhat do you get when you cross a pig with a Republican?
Nothing. Pigs won't f#ck Republicans!
Har har!
August 26th, 2007 at 11:18 pmHow about this:
Humans do not have the right, God given or otherwise, to render the planet uninhabitable.
America does not have the right, God given or otherwise, to dominate the world.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:20 pmSurging?
08/24/07
BAGHDAD - Police found nine bodies in different districts in Baghdad on Friday, police said.
08/23/07
BAGHDAD - Police said they found bodies of 15 people in different districts of Baghdad on Thursday.
BAGHDAD - A roadside bomb near a parking lot killed a man and wounded four others in New Baghdad district in eastern Baghdad, police said.
08/22/07
BAGHDAD - A car bomb killed one person and wounded five in the al-Weshash district of western Baghdad, police said.
08/21/07
BAGHDAD - Fourteen bodies were found in different areas of Baghdad in the past 24 hours, police said.
BAGHDAD - Two people were killed and 14 wounded when a roadside bomb targeting a U.S. patrol exploded near a small bus in New Baghdad district in eastern Baghdad, police said.
on and on and on and on....
August 26th, 2007 at 11:21 pmWhat do you get when you cross a pig with a Republican?
Nothing. Pigs won’t f#ck Republicans!
Har har!
Comment by gummitch — August 26, 2007 @ 11:18 pm
My gosh, is this a troll, or is this progressives humor?
August 26th, 2007 at 11:21 pmComment by Frank J — August 26, 2007 @ 11:15 pm
Frank J, you hopeless jerk. You stole this entire piece of writing without giving the original (idiot) author any credit. So, you're not only a jerk, you're a f##king plagiarist.
http://globalpolitician.com/articleshow.asp?ID=3328&cid=1
And, you're stupid, because you thought you could get away with something that took 3 seconds of searching through Google to find in its original format.
Like Mr Pee, you are incapable of original thought.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:21 pmMy gosh, is this a troll, or is this progressives humor?
Comment by r — August 26, 2007 @ 11:21 pm
You don't get anything, do you? Why am I not surprised?
August 26th, 2007 at 11:23 pmHow about this:
Humans do not have the right, God given or otherwise, to render the planet uninhabitable.
America does not have the right, God given or otherwise, to dominate the world.
Comment by pete — August 26, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
This I’m interested in.
Where does the “right†come from if it doesn’t come from God?
August 26th, 2007 at 11:24 pm#257 "Sorry, I don’t get it."
Comment by r — August 26, 2007 @ 11:10 pm"
r you've come to a great realization (that we already knew) - give the troll a kewpie doll.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:24 pmNot very subtle gummitch. Great for trolls.
Q: What would one call a sinking ship full of trolls?
August 26th, 2007 at 11:24 pmA: A promising start!
Hil broke the law.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
Swifty!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 11:26 pmWe made it out of nothing.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:27 pmRights, like respect, are earned not "bestowed". They reflect the mores and ideals of a given society.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:28 pmOk, then by your logic, this should be an equally funny joke:
What do you get when you cross a pig with a Democrat?
Nothing. Pigs won’t f#ck Democrat
Har har!
Comment by gummitch — August 26, 2007 @ 11:18 pm
I still don’t think it’s funny in the least.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:28 pmHey, Swifty!! What's happenin' ya' freekin' dipshit!
August 26th, 2007 at 11:29 pmPerhaps their new anthem is “Devil with a Blue Dress on by Mitch Ryder�
Comment by RUCerious — August 26, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
perish that thought! ... that would be sacrilegious!
they don't deserve such a great song... lord have mercy!
...
and frankj - who tells you that stuff? ... and whyever do you think it could even be true? ... cause some bot says so? ... get a clue...
August 26th, 2007 at 11:29 pmat least source the author, plagiarist...
...
Bill Clinton have had every single rightwing hatemonger after them for many years, and nothing has stuck. Nothing.
Um, I think something did stick on that blue dress…
Comment by r — August 26, 2007 @ 10:47 pm
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Heh. Yep.
And, did I mention, hil broke the law:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
Swifty!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 11:30 pmkaty ~ my best memory of Ft Ben Harrison Indy, is sitting in a pal's convertible listening to Mitch on the radio!
August 26th, 2007 at 11:31 pmNext time you get butter on your blouse, soy sauce on your slacks or juice on your pajamas, head to Stain Central, where we put a wide variety of stain remedies to the test.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:33 pmSwifty!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 11:35 pmYa' git!
August 26th, 2007 at 11:36 pmHey Sfifman: Did Clinton break the Law?
August 26th, 2007 at 11:37 pmWooooooHoooooooo! Killed another thread!
August 26th, 2007 at 11:39 pmHave you forgotten discrediting yourself Mr. Pus?
NEXT ALIASS PLEASE!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 11:40 pmSwifty the boat sounds like a name on a par with Thomas the Tank Engine. Probably cruises around the island of Sodor looking to pimp for Mr. Toppemhat.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:42 pmHow about this:
Humans do not have the right, God given or otherwise, to render the planet uninhabitable.
America does not have the right, God given or otherwise, to dominate the world.
Comment by pete — August 26, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
Rights, like respect, are earned not “bestowedâ€. They reflect the mores and ideals of a given society.
Comment by pete — August 26, 2007 @ 11:28 pm
Your second statement belies the first.
If “Rightsâ€, reflect the mores and ideals of a given society, that society can render the planet uninhabitable if that is what they choose stupid as that might be.
And if the mores and ideals of the American society choose to dominate the world, then they have the right to do so, according to your second statement stupid as that might be.
And the US isn’t trying to dominate the world, or we would have already done it.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:42 pmThe Republican Party is the Party of Ideas - Really, Really Bad Ideas.
How many Bush administration officials does it take to change a light bulb?
The answer is seven:
* One to deny that a light bulb needs to be replaced.
* One to attack and question the patriotism of anyone who has questions about the light bulb.
* One to blame the previous administration for the need of a new light bulb.
* One to arrange the invasion of a country rumored to have a secret stockpile of light bulbs.
* One to get together with Vice President Cheney and figure out how to pay Halliburton one million dollars for each light bulb.
* One to arrange a photo-op session showing Bush changing the light bulb while dressed in a flight suit and wrapped in an American flag.
* And finally, one to explain to Bush the difference between screwing a light bulb and screwing the country.
http://zaiusnation.blogspot.com/2007/08/just-remember-that-republican-party-is.html
August 26th, 2007 at 11:43 pm.
Comment by katy — August 26, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
I believe you need one more Republican to advocate staying in the invaded country even though it had no light bulbs, and another one to push for a military confrontation with yet another country where the original light bulbs are rumored to have been hidden.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:48 pmComment by katy — August 26, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
Not bad, and for the other side:
A video of Bill Clinton wagging his finger on TV saying “I Never, Ever Screwed that light bulb, not one single time.â€
August 26th, 2007 at 11:49 pmHey Sfifman: Did Clinton break the Law?
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 26, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
WooooooHoooooooo! Killed another thread!
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 26, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
Have you forgotten discrediting yourself Mr. Pus?
NEXT ALIASS PLEASE!!!
Comment by pete — August 26, 2007 @ 11:40 pm
Clinton broke the law with a cum stain, Bush is about 273 transgressions ahead of him if you do not include the hundreds of thousands under FISA.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:50 pmEven in America one doesn't have the right to commit suicide.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:50 pmSocietal mores do not grant the right to impose those mores on another society.
America has attempted, and failed, to dominate the world.
I still don’t think it’s funny in the least.
Comment by r — August 26, 2007 @ 11:28 pm
Oh, boo hoo. You done broke ma heart.
I can't help it if you're too stupid to get the joke. It's probably the reason you're a "conservative."
August 26th, 2007 at 11:51 pmQ: How do you put a gleam in a troll’s eye?
A: Stick a flashlight in it’s ASS!
Comment by pete
Better!
And the US isn’t trying to dominate the world, or we would have already done it. Comment by r — August 26, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
Empires aren't built overnite, besides the neo-cons have long spouted their belief in empire and hegemony. Clash of the Civiisations and all that.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:51 pmA video of Bill Clinton wagging his finger on TV saying “I Never, Ever Screwed that light bulb, not one single time.â€
Comment by r — August 26, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
Is that a joke? I don't get it.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:51 pmAccording to Laura, W jacked of a horse - when will those cum stains come to light.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:53 pmIt’s probably the reason you’re a “conservative.â€
Comment by gummitch
You have to call people names like turdblossom, thats funny to a con.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:54 pmIf the moonbats have their way and we run from Iraq to Okinawa and we get rid of those pesky Jews in Palestine will the Islamists leave us alone?
August 26th, 2007 at 11:56 pmThe Cons also like the term "Full Spectrum Dominance"
August 26th, 2007 at 11:56 pmA video of Bill Clinton wagging his finger on TV saying “I Never, Ever Screwed that light bulb, not one single time.â€
Is that a joke? I don’t get it.
Comment by jb — August 26, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
Oh, boo hoo. You done broke ma heart.
I can’t help it if you’re too stupid to get the joke. It’s probably the reason you’re a “conservative.â€
Comment by gummitch — August 26, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
August 26th, 2007 at 11:57 pmI agree Reasonable people would never refer to Mr. Rove as "turdblossom". Reasonalble people call him "Shitstain".
August 26th, 2007 at 11:58 pm"will the Islamists leave us alone?"
Comment by Frank J
Not until we give them Ann Coulter.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:58 pmhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
August 26th, 2007 at 11:58 pmSwifty!!!!!
Comment by r — August 26, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
Are you calling me a conservative?
August 26th, 2007 at 11:59 pmReasonalble people call him “Shitstainâ€.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
I prefer the old "shitsack in a business suit."
August 26th, 2007 at 11:59 pmApparently, many of them also like buns-up, spread eagle, submission.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:59 pmSwifty!!!!!
Comment by Swifty the Boat —
You can say that again...
August 27th, 2007 at 12:00 amIf the moonbats have their way and we run from Iraq to Okinawa and we get rid of those pesky Jews in Palestine will the Islamists leave us alone??
August 27th, 2007 at 12:00 amask gummitch?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:01 amAnd the US isn’t trying to dominate the world, or we would have already done it. Comment by r — August 26, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
You should take a little time to read some history, because you clearly are living in a vacuum.
The US government, regardless of which party is nominally in control, has made very effort for more than a century to maintain control over resources throughout the world. It's a different model than the old colonial system which required actual possession of a country (like the British Empire) but times have changed. Now it is only necessary to assure access to critical resources, whether it be oil, bananas or flowers. The American economy is based on access to cheap, uninterrupted commodities from overseas. As long as that access is granted, "we" don't interfere, but if the citizens of another country decide they're sick of starving so that Americans have cheap coffee, look out!
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August 27th, 2007 at 12:01 amSwifty!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:01 amWell, that's all the witty repartee I can stand. Good night humans. You too trolls.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:01 amHey Swifty, did Hillary Clinron ever commit a crime?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:02 am"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 26, 2007 @ 10:43 pm"
That's it, right? The very best you can do. A perfect example of the emptyheaded wingnut, no answers, no sense, no patriotism, no courage. Only the ability of a chimpanzee with a keyboard. thanks for proving your irrelevance, again.
"We Westerners, with our self-deprecatory posturing and theology of self-loathing, have inadequate spiritual defenses against this onslaught. It is past time to update our virus definitions before the PC Worm shuts us down.
Comment by Frank J — August 26, 2007 @ 11:15 pm"
shorter Frank: To defeat the "enemy" we must become worse than them.
Excellent reasoning Frank, so to live, we must die. You're the stupidest plagiarist of the bunch of wingnut cowards that comes here instead of fighting the great menace. You're a sissy.
r-, as usual, would love to find something important against Clinton, but his jealousy that the Big Dog got a blowjob from a woman instead of a Republican Congressman won't allow him to think straight. Go cry on your boyfriend's nutsack, r-, you poor, poor sissy coward.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:02 amI'll bet you're a really attractive fellow.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:03 amr you an armchair general?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:03 am#310 A rather impressive load of crap.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:03 amHill is criminal
August 27th, 2007 at 12:04 amhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
Swifty!!!!!
Hey Swifty, did Hillary Clinton ever commit a crime?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:04 amIf the moonbats have their way and we run from Iraq to Okinawa and we get rid of those pesky Jews in Palestine will the Islamists leave us alone?
Well, its not just the Democrats that want to pull out of Iraq, some 51% of Republicans, as well. And lest you forget the Democrats also signed off on the resolution to use force in Iraq [WMD thing, unfound]
You also seem to think Democrats are anti-Jewish when they aren't. The Jewish tend to vote Democratically. Osama didn't attack us because of Israel, they never saw Osama as a threat to Israel. Osama wants American out of Mecca and Saudi. Will the Islamists leave us alone? You'd have to ask an Islamist that question. Mr P is an Islamist, I hear.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:05 amComment by Frank J —
Way to go Frank. You got mad plagiarism skillz...
August 27th, 2007 at 12:05 amHill is a criminal
August 27th, 2007 at 12:05 amhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
Swifty!!!!!
Swiffman: I can't get the link. Why don't you just give me a brief encapsulation.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:05 amIs swifty an armchair admiral?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:05 amf the moonbats have their way and we run from Iraq to Okinawa and we get rid of those pesky Jews in Palestine will the Islamists leave us alone??
Comment by Frank J — August 27, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Okinawa? Where did you plagiarize this idiocy?
If you're going to insert non sequitors, at least give the actual author the credit, frankie.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:06 amHill is criminal
Comment by Swifty the Boat
And you're a poor excuse for a man. If you can't control the premature ejaculation, we're through, tough guy!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:07 amhey, the worst, lowest name we can call these rightards is the one they wear most proudly: Republicans. there's nothing lower or nastier or more threatening to life on earth than a Republican, and it's time to destroy them and bury the GOP for all time, even if it's Hillary that has to do it (she's more than capable, especially given the unitary executive Rove put in place). She's kick the crap out of the pussies running for the GOP spot, easily. She's already well ahead of them, and is just getting started. Watch the crying and whining from the rightard sissies as she ramps up.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:07 amHere's a doc, for ya MA.
Hil's a criminal.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:07 amSwifty!!!!
Frank an armchair plagiarist?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:07 amIs swifty an armchair admiral?
Comment by jb — August 27, 2007 @ 12:05 am
Yes, on the island of Sodormy
August 27th, 2007 at 12:08 amI'll just have to trust your judgment on this.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:08 amAuthor says bin laden wanted the US to invade Iraq.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/24/2013753.htm
August 27th, 2007 at 12:09 am#310 A rather impressive load of crap.
Comment by Frank J — August 27, 2007 @ 12:03 am
the truth looks like crap to traitors and antiAmerican scumbags like you Frank. That's why you're such an ignorant plagiaristic loser.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:09 amronjazz obviously is not one of the liberals Pat Schroeder was praising for their reading skills.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:09 amComment by Keith — August 27, 2007 @ 12:09 am
Liar.
Swifty!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:09 amSwifty!!!!
Comment by Swifty the Boat
And for you info, your brother's name is "Slow- poke" loser.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:09 amPlease point out any....any....truth in #310.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:10 amComment by Swifty the Boat — August 27, 2007 @ 12:07 am
I can't open it. Can you cut and paste the contents of the doc into your post, please? It'd be a big help. Thanks.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:11 amBush surrendered to Bin Laden instantly and completely, starting by flying his family out of the USA on 9/13, withdrawing the troops from Saudi Arabia, and then letting Osama go! Is it any wonder we're losing three wars simultaneously?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:11 am-
August 27th, 2007 at 12:11 amhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
Swifty!!!!!
#310 A rather impressive load of crap.
Comment by Frank J — August 27, 2007 @ 12:03 am
Ooooh, a stunner, plagiarist.
It's probably too much to expect that you would be able to address the issues. As in, US foreign policy in Latin America, especially in support of the United Fruit Company in its various incarnations. Or US foreign policy in post-war Greece. Or US foreign policy in Iran, vis a vis the Shah. Or . . . pick one. But, please, produce your own content instead of stealing someone else's words and claiming them as their own. Plagiarists suck, Frank.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:12 amHow can it be a lie? I just said one author said it. Read his book and call him a liar. He did actually interview bin Laden in 1996 and said he was upset he could not get Clinton bogged down in Somalia.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:13 amSwifty!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:13 amMr P gives a link to some long drawn out legal document but wont say what his point is exactly.
The document says Peter Paul, a SEC violator, gave WJC 1.2 miilion to produce a tribute to WJC. And that HRC supposedly commited fraud that caused Pater Paul to lose his investor, Oto, in SLM, Pauls business, when OTO, the investors pulled out SLM crashed and burned.
its a frivolous lawsuit.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:14 amronjazz obviously is not one of the liberals Pat Schroeder was praising for their reading skills.
Comment by Frank J — August 27, 2007 @ 12:09 am
Frank, when you start posting stuff you haven't stolen, then you can make accusations. until then, you're a cheap thief, with zero credibility. I love your ad hominem attacks on me, fact-free and fantastical. Very entertaining. you're incapable of laying a glove on me, or anyone else, for that matter. General Smedley Butler, USMC clarifies post #310 very nicely in his book "War Is A Racket". Maybe Pat Schroeder can find somebody to read it to you.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:15 amYo' limpdick; do you really expect anyone to believe the Bush admin just dropped the case? Why? And where did these tapes originate? Sounds like someone's got a partisan ax to grind, and they're using this boob who posted on Youtube as a front.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:16 amAnd Paul was convicted of fraud (least twice) and dealing cocaine.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:16 amPlease point out any….any….truth in #310.
Comment by Frank J — August 27, 2007 @ 12:10 am
Saudi Arabia
the Philippines under Ferdinand Marcos
Iran under the Shah
Iraq, pre-Kuwait
Tell you what, why not disprove the point, Frank? And, you know, try to use your own words instead of someone else's.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:16 am#
Bush surrendered to Bin Laden instantly and completely, starting by flying his family out of the USA on 9/13, withdrawing the troops from Saudi Arabia, and then letting Osama go! Is it any wonder we’re losing three wars simultaneously?
Comment by ronjazz — August 27, 2007 @ 12:11 am
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Record opium crop in Afganistan this year. Record crop of death is Iraq. Bin Laden hiding in Pakistan while W gives the dictator $$$$$, holds hands sells weapons to Saudi Royalty. Freedom is on the march.....pitiful
August 27th, 2007 at 12:17 amI'm asking the Islamist allies. If we run from Iraq and get rid of the Jews in Palestine will the Islamists leave us alone? If there were no Americans in Saudi Arabia would the Islamists leave us alone?
Why did the Islamists attack us in 1993, 1997, 1998, 2000 and 2001 before we went to Iraq?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:17 amI thought Paul as the Walrus.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:17 amSwifty!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:17 amMarcus Wikipedia talks about Peter F. Paul that discusses the tribute Paul produced.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:18 amen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_F._Paul
Comment by SWIFTPEE — August 27, 2007 @ 12:14 am
Why did it take Kerry 5 years to be honorable discharged?
Swifty!!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:18 ambin Laden attacked us for having troops in Saudi Arabia.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:19 amhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_F._Paul
Say isnt swiftpee the goat the book \/\/ read on 9/11?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:20 amWhy did the Islamists attack us in 1993, 1997, 1998, 2000 and 2001 before we went to Iraq?
Comment by Frank J
Because that traitor Reagan sold weapons to the same terrorists he claimed he would never deal with. That made them think all americans were such two-faced poiltical opportunists as Reagan. Too bad conservatives can't see beyond the ends of their collective noses.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:21 amhttp://www.hillcap.org/default.php?page_id=14
August 27th, 2007 at 12:21 amSwifty!!!!
Why did the Islamists attack us in 1993, 1997, 1998, 2000 and 2001 before we went to Iraq?
Comment by Frank J — August 27, 2007 @ 12:17 am
According to W, it's because they hate our freedoms. He's working at destroying many of those. I suppose you think that is the right plan.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:22 amSwifty!!!!
Comment by Swifty the Boat
Bogus!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:22 amWhy did the Islamists attack us in 1993, 1997, 1998, 2000 and 2001 before we went to Iraq?
Comment by Frank J
Could have something to do with a blind subserviant relationship to Israel, as well as stationing troops in Saudi Arabia. At least that's what the Islamic fundies tell us. Why aren't you listening?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:23 amSwifty!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:23 amBogus!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:23 amFrank armchair fart knocker.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:24 amSwifty!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:24 amWhy did it take Kerry 5 years to be honorable discharged?
WHy did George bail out after 4 years of his 6 year contract with the National Guard?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:24 amI don't know why they did it, but I remember the attacks vividly. I was sitting in my cube at work, when all of a sudden, I look out the window and see the formations of Islamic bombers over the city skyline. When I heard they had taken the ports at New York, Philadelphia, and Baltimore, I knew we were in prettey serious trouble. I remember wondering what Ms. Aurelius would look like in a burqua. Anyway, there was a lot of house-to-house fighting in my neighborhood for the next few weeks, but we finally drove them out.
That was some serious Shit, bro.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:24 amSwifty!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:24 amSwifty armchair bubble blower.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:25 amBaloney!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:26 amSwifty!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:26 amFried bologna!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:27 amSwifty!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:28 amSwifty bathtub bubble blower.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:28 amSwifty!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:28 amComment by jb — August 27, 2007 @ 12:22 am
You can't say the plan isn't brilliant: Patriot Act, no Habeas Corpus, warrantless wiretaps, steam-rolling dissenters, smearing political opponents, working towards a theocratic one-party country, filled with Bush personality cult followers.
All the while claiming to be within the boundaries of the law, because he has a mandate, and is part of his "Executive Privilege".
Brilliant! Stalin would be proud.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:30 am#
I don’t know why they did it, but I remember the attacks vividly. I was sitting in my cube at work, when all of a sudden, I look out the window and see the formations of Islamic bombers over the city skyline. When I heard they had taken the ports at New York, Philadelphia, and Baltimore, I knew we were in prettey serious trouble. I remember wondering what Ms. Aurelius would look like in a burqua. Anyway, there was a lot of house-to-house fighting in my neighborhood for the next few weeks, but we finally drove them out.
That was some serious Shit, bro.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 27, 2007 @ 12:24 am
#
Now, Marcus Aurelius is no armchair general!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:30 amSwifty!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:31 amSo if we completely leave the Middle East then our problems with Islamo Fascism would be over? Would that not be unconditional surrender to the Islamists? Is that what a great historian like ronjazz is advocating?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:31 amSwifty!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:31 amWhy did it take Kerry 5 years to be honorable discharged?
Swifty!!!!!
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 27, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Why would he be in any hurry? he liked the navy, the Navy liked him. the question is, how did a deserter get the GOP nomination? That's the question. Why does the GOP support traitors? Why are Bush and Cheney, Al Qaeda's biggest supporters, not in prison?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:32 amronjazz is an anti-American, Defeatist, Islamophile!!!
Fukc ronjazz!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:33 amSwifty
Comment by Gregor Samsa — August 27, 2007 @ 12:30 am
Don't forget the corporate press with deep self interests. Blackwater mercenaries waiting in the wings.
The one weakness I can see is the personality cult....needs to have one (personality). I think the people are waking up and beginning to look around. They don't like what they see. Let's hope it's not too late.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:37 amWTF is wrong with swifty?
swifty, are you on drugs? It's fine if you are, I'm just trying to figure out your train of thought...
August 27th, 2007 at 12:37 am#383 Don't forget Elvis and Santa Claus.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:38 amComment by whiteyfresh — August 27, 2007 @ 12:37 am
Hill is criminal
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
August 27th, 2007 at 12:38 amSwifty!!!!!
So if we completely leave the Middle East then our problems with Islamo Fascism would be over? Would that not be unconditional surrender to the Islamists? Is that what a great historian like ronjazz is advocating?
Comment by Frank J — August 27, 2007 @ 12:31 am
"We" have no business in the Middle East as an occupying force. There is no IslamoFascism, there are people defending their turf against imperial agression, as usual. We can honorably leave, and try to correct our murderous ways, or we can stay and suffer another defeat at the hands of insurgents, like Viet Nam. You can call it surrender, but it would be honorable, so, under you dishonarable cowards, we will be defeated, again. And you won't lift a finger to do anything about it, which is why we'll be defeated. and, as far as I'm concerned, the sooner the better. I hope they drive us out next week. It's disgusting that our National Guard is being used for empire-building, and we are wrong. I'm not a jock-sniffing My Country Right Or Wrong moron like you, Frank. I'm a Christian atheist, a follower of the philosophy of the Prince Of Peace. All religions cause war and misery, as much as they help, so i won't have any of it, but Jesus had the right idea. Too bad you can't be a good Christian, and bring our brave, screwed troops home before more of them get blown to pieces for nothing.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:39 amWhy did Bush want to turn control of our ports over to the Islamists?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:41 amWanna stop terrorism? Stop buying middle east oil.
Swifty, likes to hold hands with Saudi Princes!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:41 amI’m a Christian atheist -ronjazz
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CONGRATULATIONS, RONJAZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE THE WINNER OF THE MOST LIBTARDED QUOTE OF THE DAY AWARD (tm)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Swifty!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:41 amHill is criminal
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
Swifty!!!!!
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 27, 2007 @ 12:38 am
hey, swifty the moonbat, any bets on how far this gets? this is a nuisance suit with no standing in the courts. you clowns will try anything to avoid getting your asses kicked by a girl next November, but you will lose, and really big. I look forward to it.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:42 amDon’t forget the corporate press with deep self interests. Blackwater mercenaries waiting in the wings.
Comment by jb — August 27, 2007 @ 12:37 am
Ah, yes! I missed to mention those.
See? Since they hate us for our freedoms, it means our freedoms are the problem.
No freedoms, no problem!
Orwell couldn't have said it better ;-)
I think the people are waking up and beginning to look around.
Some are. Many are not. There is still that stubborn 30-some% of the adult population who are still drinking the kool-aid by the barrel. Look around this thread. You'll find them, as rabid and angry as ever.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:43 amI’m just trying to figure out your train of thought…Comment by whiteyfresh
Swift is a ancient Greek [likes empires] modern Federalist. [And Kings with Advisors]
However that works..
August 27th, 2007 at 12:44 amYOU ARE THE WINNER OF THE MOST LIBTARDED QUOTE OF THE DAY AWARD â„¢!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Swifty!!!!
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 27, 2007 @ 12:41 am
Yeah, I knew that would confuse you to no end. You're a very simple-minded simpleton. Thanks for taking the bait, p. sometimes you have a little entertainment value. Most of the time, you're just a sissy coward ignoramus, though.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:44 amWe're Freedom LOVERS(TM).
They're freedom HATERS.
Don't tell Canada.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:45 amSwifty!!!!!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:46 amJust because there are some good Jesus stories out there doesn't mean ronjazz has to go all holy holy. At least he doesn't post the same insipid drivel over and over and think that is actually acomplishing anything. Go blow bubbles in the bathtub swifty.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:47 amHey, the right in America hates our freedoms just as much as the imagined Islamofascists do. The right has taken more freedoms than the terrorists ever dreamed of. Bush has surrendered America to the enemy already.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:47 amSwifty!!!!!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:47 amJohn Kerry shot himself in the ass to be relieved from Vietnam.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:48 am*
Great Explanations
I don't know about you, but I'm buying them.
I did it because black people scared me --conservative Christian legislator and McCain Florida Co-Chair Bob Allen after being arrested for offering a detective $20 to allow him to put the officer's little policeman in his mouth.
I did it because lightening scared me--conservative Christian legislator and McCain Florida Co-Chair Bob Allen after being arrested again for offering a Titusville cop $20 to allow him to put the officer's little policeman in his mouth.
Someone broke into my house, and mimicking my voice, used my wife's cellphone to make the calls--GOP political consultant Roger Stone after being accused of making abusive and threatening calls to NY Governor Elliot Spitzer's father.
A maid stole pictures of me and my wife, descriptions of my thingy and my wife's woowoo, and our checkbook information to place the ads--GOP political consultant Roger Stone responding to charges that he and his wife placed ads in swingers magazines looking for "muscular, well hung, single men" to join them in their procreation-related activities.
President Bush's political appointee said soldiers would die if we didn't do it--Congressional Democrats on why they gave Inquisitor General Gonzales the power to wiretap without warrants or oversight.
http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/
...
i haven't been to the general's site in a long while...
informative as always...
something special for the franks and pees and other pussies also...
start here: http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2007/08/bread-and-circuses.html
the peeman will get a special rise out of the picture at least...
then continue with the latest post at http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/
( Mr. Atkinson responds )
jesus' general leading the way!
enjoy...
August 27th, 2007 at 12:48 amg'nite all...
.
I really like Jesus' long blonde hair and blue eyes. He was a great American.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:48 amSwifty!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:49 amThe ratings are in for Keith Olberman's 7pm Debut.
Only 2 million watched.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:50 amJohn Kerry shot himself in the ass to be relieved from Vietnam.
Comment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 12:48 am
Right. During his SECOND tour of duty.
You're not even as smart as a cookie. although you are nuts.
Hehehehehe...
August 27th, 2007 at 12:50 amDemocrat Jerry Springer paid a prostitute with a personal check.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:52 amHehehehehe…
Comment by ronjazz — August 27, 2007 @ 12:50 am
Lay off the meth, ronjazz
August 27th, 2007 at 12:53 amSome are. Many are not. There is still that stubborn 30-some% of the adult population who are still drinking the kool-aid by the barrel. Look around this thread. You’ll find them, as rabid and angry as ever.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — August 27, 2007 @ 12:43 a
Some of these losers will wake up when the war comes home. There are going to be some ticked off Vets, when they realize how far down the river they have been sold. Jobs gone to China. Generations of debt. I just don't think they can keep the clamps on us for too long. When things get bad enough, the people will rise up. Unfortunately we may have a ways to go before that happens.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:53 amYes. And I'll even throw in a money-back guarantee.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:53 amThe ratings are in for Keith Olberman’s 7pm Debut.
Only 2 million watched.
Comment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 12:50 am
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That's IT!!!
HEyOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 12:53 amDemocrat Jerry Springer paid a prostitute with a personal check.
Comment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 12:52 am
in 1971. That's the best you can do? A mayor, in 1971? No wonder you're going to get your asses kicked in '08. thanks for '06, by the way.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:53 amGulf War and the start of U.S. enmity
August 27th, 2007 at 12:55 amAfter the Russian left Afghanistan...After Iraq invaded Kuwait....The Saudi monarch refused bin Laden's offer, opting instead to allow U.S. and allied forces to deploy on Saudi territory. -Wikipedia
so basically Keith Olberman's viewership for the first time out in that time slot on that network is twice as many as Glen Beck gets in a week? Jeez, that's just awful. I'll bet he's crying all the way to the bank.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:55 amWill the Democrat nominee be advocating the ronjazz policy of total capitulation to the Islamists?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:56 amSo, why you postin' this info here? Did the check bounce?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:57 am#
Hey, the right in America hates our freedoms just as much as the imagined Islamofascists do. The right has taken more freedoms than the terrorists ever dreamed of. Bush has surrendered America to the enemy already.
Comment by ronjazz — August 27, 2007 @ 12:47 am
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Agreed, Islamofascists are invention to excuse the Bush grab of our Constitutional rights. Seems W doesn't take the lessons of Jesus as seriously as you do, yet he professes such "faith". Just another excuse to do what he wants.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:57 amGlenn Beck isn't on network TV as a lead in to an NFL football game oh great historian.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:58 amWhat Constitutional rights or amendments have been overturned other than the tenth?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:58 amSwifty the Boat? WHat are you five years old?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:59 amWill the Democrat nominee be advocating the ronjazz policy of total capitulation to the Islamists?
Comment by Frank J — August 27, 2007 @ 12:56 am
Only if they are patriots and care about the troops and America's future. otherwise, no, they'll just be part of selling us out to the highest bidder. Not murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent families in not capitulating, Frank, you psychopathic chickenhawk. it's being a little bit human, and acting with Christian, American principles, something you GOP ball-lickers lost decades ago.
August 27th, 2007 at 12:59 amAnd if we were living in this fascist dictatorship would Olbermann be allowed on the air?
August 27th, 2007 at 12:59 amGlenn Beck isn’t on network TV as a lead in to an NFL football game oh great historian.
Comment by Frank J — August 27, 2007 @ 12:58 am
And Rush Limbaugh lasted how long on the same broadcast? My legs are getting tired from kicking your ass around this blog, Frank.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:01 amWill the Democrat nominee be advocating the ronjazz policy of total capitulation to the Islamists?
Comment by Frank J — August 27, 2007 @ 12:56 am
Only Republicans advocate that position.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:02 amOf course you forget the fact that they killed Americans before Iraq, unless of course you would actually trust the likes of Bin Laden to not attack us because at the moment we have surrendered to all their demands.
What kind of historian are you?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:02 amI'm not sure if that's part of their platform. Somebody should ask them, directly. I say we should fight them on the beaches. Total capitulation should only be used as a last resort.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:03 amI bet NBC will not repeat this experiment again. It was a disaster.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:03 amAnd if we were living in this fascist dictatorship would Olbermann be allowed on the air?
Comment by Frank J — August 27, 2007 @ 12:59 am
yes, Frank, until he reached 10 million viewers, then he'd be shut down. don't forget that MSGOP tossed Phil Donahue, their highest-rated show, because of these fascists.
man, this is too easy. not even a challenge.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:03 amLimbaugh never had a one hour show on the air before a football game. I guess your historical knowledge is somewhat limited.
If Limbaugh did have one I would wager his ratings would be about ten times larger than Olbermann's rather pathetic debut.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:04 amI expect to see Jerry Springer on HBO's next hookers special. He paid a whore.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:05 amFreudian.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:05 amSwifty the Boat? WHat are you five years old?
Comment by buzzbomb — August 27, 2007 @ 12:59 am
Swifty!!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 1:06 amOnly Republicans advocate that position.
Comment by jb — August 27, 2007 @ 1:02 am
Advocate? They already surrendered to Osama, completely and immediately, and let him escape several times. Bush luvs him some Osama; Cheney is Al Qaeda's greatest ally. there can be no other reason that this has gone on for nearly 7 years. We destroyed the Axis powers in 4 years, and they actually had armies!
August 27th, 2007 at 1:06 am"The ratings are in for Keith Olberman’s 7pm Debut.
Only 2 million watched.
Comment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 12:50 am"
An incomplete 'rating' as it is just now on in the west - those numbers will go up and up and up and up
August 27th, 2007 at 1:07 amOkay. It's a bet. Ten million bucks.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:07 amHey Cookie, ever heard of Vitter?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:07 amWell since he will never reach ten million I guess we will never know will we?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:07 amW is the master of total capitulation as he has demonstrated many times. How can anyone question that he is the King of capitulation after Katrina, after billions lost and totally unaccounted for in Iraq, after massive tax cuts for already obscenely wealthy cronies. etc. etc.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:07 amI checked my TV guide, but they didn't have a Hooker Special scheduled on HBO. When are they going to show it?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:09 amDavid Vitter's approval rating is 66%. Harry Reid would sleep with a whore for that.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:09 amYou're on.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:09 amThere are going to be some ticked off Vets, when they realize how far down the river they have been sold. Jobs gone to China. Generations of debt.
Comment by jb — August 27, 2007 @ 12:53 am
Interesting you should mention this -which, by the way, is what makes me suspect a lot of these trolls don't actually have a job. They come here babbling about the "left", and "free markets" as if they were people of means who could actually take advantage of anything resembling "free markets" (that are actually not so free, but that's a whole other topic).
There is no way, whatever ideology people choose to follow, that the trend towards "offshoring" labor seems like an attractive proposition if their job can potentially be sent off to, say, China. Unless, of course, these people are still living in their parents' basement.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:10 amJerry Springer's debut!
http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/hookers/index.html
August 27th, 2007 at 1:10 amIf Limbaugh did have one I would wager his ratings would be about ten times larger than Olbermann’s rather pathetic debut.
Comment by Frank J — August 27, 2007 @ 1:04 am
hey! A fact! You're right, frank, but Limbaugh was hired as a host of NBC Monday Night Football, and was gone before he could seduce one of the ballboys. Gone, poof, disappeared, without a trace. So you won't be seeing that fat f*ck anytime soon associated with a football game. and let's face it, Olberman is much too smart and truthful for the blithering, beer-swilling idiots that waste their time watching NFL criminals drop punts.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:10 amHey, wait a minute! I only bet one million. What are you trying to pull?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:11 amIf Limbaugh did have one I would wager his ass would be about ten times larger than Olbermann’s.
Comment by Frank J — August 27, 2007 @ 1:04 am
Just thought I'd go ahead and fix that one for you!
August 27th, 2007 at 1:11 amDavid Vitter’s approval rating is 66%. Harry Reid would sleep with a whore for that.
Comment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 1:09 am
yes, among Republican pedophiles. Republicans love whores and perverts, and do their best to protect them against good, patriotic Americans exposing their filthy ways.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:12 amThe Return of Newt Gingrich!
The man who balanced the budget during the 90's.
He's currently advising presidential hopeful Fred Thompson.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:13 amHey, Cookie! You just loves you some whore posts, don't 'cha?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:13 amLimbaugh never worked for NBC and never worked on Monday Night Football on ABC. He did work for ESPN in studio for a while and they booted him for not being PC. What college did you get your degree in history from?
Man this is tooooooooooo.,.,,easy..
August 27th, 2007 at 1:14 amFrank and Jake how much is the RNC paying you? 3.50 and hour, 25 cents a post, you guys are so full of it, it is really laughable.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:14 amThe Return of Newt Gingrich!
The man who balanced the budget during the 90’s.
He’s currently advising presidential hopeful Fred Thompson.
Comment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 1:13 am
WOW!! The Viagra Twins! What a pair those two are!
August 27th, 2007 at 1:15 amThe man who balanced the budget during the 90’s.
He’s currently advising presidential hopeful Fred Thompson.
Comment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 1:13 am
Excellent! The unbalanced serial adulterer who was forced to resign because he's a thief, liar and pig is back.
And Clinton balancd the budget, cookie. No repig has ever achieved, or sought, that result. borrow and spend, borrow and steal, the GOP mantra.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:15 amTwo whores for the price of one! Make sure this check does't bounce. The one you got from Jerry Springer should have cleared the bank by now.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:15 amVitter approval 66%.
Harry Reid approval 19%.
Democrat congress approval on Iraq, 3%.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:15 amThe Return of Newt Gingrich!
The man who balanced the Clinton impeachment hearings with an affair of his own during the 90’s.
He’s currently advising presidential hopeful Fred Thompson.
Comment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 1:13 am
Where does this guy find the time? Impressive!
August 27th, 2007 at 1:15 amHe did work for ESPN in studio for a while and they booted him for not being PC.
Comment by Frank J
Rush boosted their ratings 13% while he was on that show.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:16 amWhat does this have to do with whores?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:17 amSerial adulterer...Newt and what was that other reprobates name that did that? Can't think of it..come on historian help me out..you know the guy who blew up that tent in Afghanistan?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:18 amOh, Frank, i'm cut to the quick. it was ESPN, that diddly-squat network, and Limbaugh couldn't keep his racist hatred under control? Is that what you're saying? Sorry I can't keep idiotic sports shows straight, I'm too busy having a life. Limbaugh was to PC for ESPN? That's very funny. Even the knuckle-draggers weren't having it. wow, pathetic, you wingnut perves.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:18 amComment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 1:15 am
What does this have to do with whores?
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 27, 2007 @ 1:17 am
don't you think cookie is a good name for a whore?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:20 amDemocrat Jim McGreavy appointed his gay lover to head the NJ department of homeland security.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:20 amOkay so sports history and television history are out for you. Anything else you want to add?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:20 amThat's not what my copies of the Neilsen ratings for those shows says. Where are you getting your numbers?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:21 amMy congressperson and Senators is 100%, my approval of the rest of them, pretty darn low, why? The ones that votes for the spying bill suck a$$, the ones that voted for the continuation of this farse I rate 0%. So does that mean that I totally disapprove of congress, NO, I just disapprove of the ones that don't want to do what is right, mine do want to do what is right, so my they are 100% in by book, the rest are not. And so it goes for the rest of america, we like our reps, but not the rest of them.....polls are so dishonest in this respect.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:21 amRush boosted their ratings 13% while he was on that show.
Comment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 1:16 am
Clearly proves my point about the knuckle-dragging football fans. How long is Vick going to be in prison? Will he get engaged to his bunkmate?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:21 amCookie Cream
August 27th, 2007 at 1:22 amLarry Flynt's sleazy tactics used on Vitter backfired in his perverted face. Vitter is now enshrined for life in that senate seat. A Democrat could only dream of having his approval rate.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:23 amDemocrat Jim McGreavy appointed his gay lover to head the NJ department of homeland security.
Comment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 1:20 am
should he have selected Michael Brown? Alberto Gonzales? Some other GOP whore without a clue?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:23 amComment by ronjazz — August 27, 2007 @ 1:18 am
Frank's 3 heroes: Newter, Dubya and the rusher! Probably has carnal thoughts about ann coultergeist too.
That's all we need to know about his moral compass.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:23 amAnd there hasn't been a terrorist attack in NJ since.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:24 amA Democrat could only dream of having his approval rate.
Comment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 1:23 am
Vitter is gone next election. Republicans are done. A democrat doesn't need a a 66% approval rate from Repigs.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:24 amI think Vitter is dreamy! Don't you?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:24 amAlso, note that Vitter didn't deny the allegations.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:25 amHow long is Vick going to be in prison? Will he get engaged to his bunkmate?
Comment by ronjazz — August 27, 2007 @ 1:21 am
I say let's rally Bush to commute the sentence.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:25 amA Democrat could only dream of having his approval rate.
Comment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 1:23 am
Hillary's approval rate in new york has been consistently that high, and higher. You're very stupid.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:26 amBut he did deny the alligator.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:26 amBut he did deny the alligator.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 27, 2007 @ 1:26 am
That's a croc.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:27 amAlso, note that Vitter didn’t deny the allegations.
Comment by ronjazz — August 27, 2007 @ 1:25 am
Of course not, he fits right in with the Repug family values. Just another average Repug's day (and night) at the office.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:28 amAnd there hasn’t been a terrorist attack in NJ since.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
What qualifications did Jim McGreavy's gay lover have to lead that DHS department besides being his boyfriend?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:28 amHillary’s approval rate in new york has been consistently that high, and higher. You’re very stupid.
Comment by ronjazz
She has a net negative approval nationally. I hope she gets the Democrat nomination.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:30 amDuring World War I Jim McGreavy’s gay lover served in France as chief of staff of the 42nd ("Rainbow") Division. Upon his promotion to Brigadier General he became the commander of the 84th Infantry Brigade. A few weeks before the war ended, he became division commander. During the war, Jim McGreavy’s gay lover received two Distinguished Service Crosses, seven Silver Stars, a Distinguished Service Medal, and two Purple Hearts.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:31 amWhat qualifications did Jim McGreavy’s gay lover have to lead that DHS department besides being his boyfriend?
Comment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 1:28 am
A double digit IQ would give him much higher qualifications than ANY of Dubya's appointees. And getting the DUI charges swept under the rug is a great set of credentials to be the highest "ranjing" judicial official in the US, right?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:31 amI think she should change her name to Cookie.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:32 amYes, a Democrat would only dream of a 66% approval rating. Even a Democrat from Redstate Kansas?
Democratic Governor Sebelius at 66% in Kansas.
-GSD
August 27th, 2007 at 1:33 amCookie Clinton.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:36 amCookie, there's nothing wrong with being obsessed about the whole gay thing. Nothing to be ashamed of. According to the Southern Baptists, you can be cured! In the meantime, this might help.
http://www.hrcactioncenter.org/campaign/coming_out_day_kit_standard
August 27th, 2007 at 1:36 amWhat qualifications did Jim McGreavy’s gay lover have to lead that DHS department besides being his boyfriend?
Comment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 1:28 am
Do you remember Rudy's bodyguard, Bernie Kerik, for head of Homeland Security?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:36 amYes it would be unprecedented for a Democrat to have an approval rating over 60%.
I mean, I am sure Governor Bill Richardson, D-New Mexico must be at the bottom of the barrel.
-GSD
August 27th, 2007 at 1:36 amDo you remember a steward of HORSE JUDGES being head of FEMA?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:38 amSurely Hillary Clinton's NY Senate rating is lower than worm dirt.
It must be a Bush low 26% fer sure.
-GSD
August 27th, 2007 at 1:38 amOf course not, he fits right in with the Repug family values. Just another average Repug’s day (and night) at the office.
Comment by upside00
Vitter is helping to finalize a crucial water resources bill to provide much better hurricane and flood protection.
He helped defeat the amnesty bill.
And he's fighting to complete I-49 and LA-28 and LA-1.
He's doing a good job as a senator, and he has a 66% approval rating from the voters of his state.
Harry Reid is only at 19% and sinking.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:38 amY'all are smackin' some dumbass trolls this evening. :)
August 27th, 2007 at 1:39 amSadly, Republicans who spent the last 30 years saying that "character counts" are now happy to have a whoremonger in the Senate as long as he votes Republican.
That is what you call a lack of credibility and very low moral and ethical standards.
-GSD
August 27th, 2007 at 1:41 amI know Harry Reid. Harry Reid is buoyant. the dude floats like a freekin' cork.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:41 am1)Nobody watches PRESEASON NFL.
2)Rush was saying how lousy Donovan McNabb was---when his QB rating was #2.
3)Dateline only just came on in the west.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:42 amThe repukians all are facing the fear that GW and KKKarl have destroyed the repukians for years to come, that is why they come here crying to us.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:43 amSurely those New Yorker's who were attacked on 9/11 have George W. Bush in the highest of poll ratings because Bush claims that he is "on the attack against al Qaeda".
Surely they are all grateful and give George W. Bush sky high ratings.
-GSD
August 27th, 2007 at 1:43 amY’all are smackin’ some dumbass trolls this evening. :)
Comment by Zooey — August 27, 2007 @ 1:39 am
Yeah, but it is tiring. You want to take over?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:44 amComment by Cookie — August 27, 2007 @ 1:38 am
Okay, Cookie - you sold me. Vitter is the man. What's he running for?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:46 amCue troll excuse number 2,900.
Polls don't matter and besides polls are taken by the librul meedeeya so they can't be trusted. That is until they say that Congress has a low approval rating and then they are "the word of the people".
America has been hijacked by a pack of 12 year olds with nuclear weapons.
-GSD
August 27th, 2007 at 1:46 amBecause his wife is chasing him with a shotgun.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:47 amDavid Vitter for Secretary of the Dept. of Pimps and Ho's.
-GSD
August 27th, 2007 at 1:47 amYeah, but it is tiring. You want to take over?
Comment by Keith — August 27, 2007 @ 1:44 am
Hell no! :D
I just stopped in before bed to see what's up, and to determine if I'm allowed to comment again.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:48 amCongress has low approval ratings because they keep giving in to Bush. The criticism is coming from the left.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:49 amYou been saying something you shouldn't have?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:49 amIt looks like your first two were allowed.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:50 amYou been saying something you shouldn’t have?
Comment by Keith — August 27, 2007 @ 1:49 am
Probably, but I don't know how TP would know about it. :-D
I was trying this morning, but no on-topic comments would show up, no matter what I did. If expressed frustration, or just wrote something to see if it would post, it showed up -- naturally.
I gave up. I had enough school work to do today, anyway.
Great to see you Keith. I'm outta here for the night.
Goodnight all!!
August 27th, 2007 at 1:53 amNight Zooey!!
You can SEE me?
August 27th, 2007 at 1:54 amIf expressed frustration, or just wrote something to see if it would post, it showed up — naturally.
Comment by Zooey — August 27, 2007 @ 1:53 am
I had the exact same experience this morning.
All my on-topic comments were filtered out. My one off-topic, frustrated post did show up however.
But the trolls' inane rants never fail to display, it would seem.
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As for Al-maliki: If he wants to lash out at anyone, ... he needs to look in the mirror and at his countrymen and women who refuse to work with him to find a political solution for their country's dilemma!
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/08/iraq-pm-al-maliki-lashes-out-at-us-his.html#links
August 27th, 2007 at 2:23 amHA HA HA SO FUNNY Iraq: British retreat descends into chaos as Shia militia occupy police centre
Shia militia loyal to the firebrand cleric Muqtada al-Sadr have scuppered an attempt by British forces to hand over the Basra joint police command centre to Iraqi police.
Iraqi police reportedly left when the Shia fighters arrived and began emptying the facility. According to witnesses, they made off with generators, computers, furniture and even cars, saying it was war booty - and were still in the centre yesterday evening.
independent co uk
August 27th, 2007 at 4:18 amAs for Al-maliki: If he wants to lash out at anyone, … he needs to look in the mirror
Comment by KYJurisDoctor
Maliki took a stinging shot at Hillary for treating Iraq as one of her villages. The Dems are doing such a great job building allies around the world. Here they are offending our newest ally in the war on terror, Iraq.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:57 amSurely those New Yorker’s who were attacked on 9/11 have George W. Bush in the highest of poll ratings because Bush claims that he is “on the attack against al Qaedaâ€.
GSD: I guess you're speaking of those New Yorkers who did not live close enough to witness Rudy's (aka Bush Lite) actual setting up of his illustrious "command center" in NYC during the days of 9/9 and 9/10 then? Many New yorkers know that he had advance knowledge with his premature set-up of command central.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:58 amOOps....that's right. Supposedly it was for those "war games" which just happened to be taking place on 9/10 and 9/11?? You know the game of airliners being hijacked and crashing into tall buildings in NYC.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:59 amjust google "war games on 911" and you can find a whole s$itload of information - interviews with military families, etc.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:00 amI know Harry Reid. Harry Reid is buoyant. the dude floats like a freekin’ cork.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
The Democrats made your bed with Larry Flynt in it, and now you have to lie with him.
Flynt and the Dems thought they could get Vitter to resign. Instead, his approval skyrocketed to 66% with all Lousianna voters.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:00 amSomeone on Rudy's campaign trail needs to ask him questions about what he knew, when he knew it, etc. Obviously, Rudy was the "annointed one" but it backfired in their faces. No one wants a lisping a$$hole whose own children hate him running for office.....and who has intimate ties to organized crime. Fahgettaboutit!
August 27th, 2007 at 8:01 amTutmosis is a truther. Discount what he has to say. It's garbage.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:03 amAll my on-topic comments were filtered out.
Comment by Gregor Samsa
TP had their filter software turned up to 11, because they were afraid Dr. Dog was going to post this weekend. Their fears were unfounded, as Dog was apparently busy. I did recieve a message from Dog. He'll be back soon.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:08 am#517 - "Discount what he has to say. It’s garbage." Comment by Brassmask — August 27, 2007 @ 8:03 am
And your anti-Democratic statements are different because... ???
August 27th, 2007 at 8:12 am#518 - "I did recieve a message from Dog. He’ll be back soon." Comment by Sonny Red — August 27, 2007 @ 8:08 am
Our sympathies are with you for that experience. ;-)
August 27th, 2007 at 8:13 amTaliban ambush kills 3 U.S. soldiers:
August 27th, 2007 at 8:28 amOur sympathies are with you for that experience. ;-)
Comment by Democrat Soldier — August 27, 2007 @ 8:13 am
Poor mr. p, has to continue talking to, and about himself, because no one else will. How sad his life is!
August 27th, 2007 at 9:05 amKagan complained that “you only get called an armchair general when you actually advocate doing anything.â€
Actually, the "doing anything" has to involve others doing the fighting
August 27th, 2007 at 12:23 pmfor you to be an armchair general.