National Guard troops cheer call for Iraq withdrawal.
By on Aug 26th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
National Guard troops cheer call for Iraq withdrawal.
Speaking to the National Guard Association general conference yesterday, Puerto Rico’s governor said that the Bush administration has “no new strategy and no signs of success” and called for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. His comments earned him a standing ovation from the more than 4,000 current and former Air and Army National Guard officers.
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Good for them …. Pelosi what you gonna do a that Monster Bush
August 26th, 2007 at 1:24 pmThis must scare the hell out of the Bush/War worshippers.
August 26th, 2007 at 1:27 pmYet, we’ll never see it on TV.
August 26th, 2007 at 1:29 pmWhy do former Air and Army National Guard officers hate our soldiers?
August 26th, 2007 at 1:31 pmTroll apperance in 3, 2, 1,……
August 26th, 2007 at 1:33 pmunlike vets that never understood bush andwho collectively clap when someone else next to them does, ??? instict clappers
If bush can stand up in front of military families and get a cheer to stay …. then I will believe the troops
August 26th, 2007 at 1:37 pmTroll apperance in 3, 2, 1,……
Comment by Jim Wolf359 — August 26, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
I posted their sole talking point @ 1:31 pm.
August 26th, 2007 at 1:38 pmMaybe the Circus Chimp-In-Chief can declare the National Guard a terrorist group and their members enemy combatants and lock the entire Guard in Gitmo. That could be one way to get them out of harm’s way in Iraq.
August 26th, 2007 at 1:56 pmInvade Puerto Rico and fight them there so we don’t have to fight them here.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:30 pmIf this was true, every Democrat would be calling for a withdrawl from Iraq and would be willing to cut off funds.
But it’s not true.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:42 pmIf this was true, every Democrat would be calling for a withdrawl from Iraq and would be willing to cut off funds.
But it’s not true.
Comment by Brassmask
George W. Bush is a Saudi OIL WHOARBAG who suxx the dixx of the Saudi TERRORIST FINANCIERS of Al Queda.
Just like the Bin Ladens FUNDING his failed oil businesses.
And it IS TRUE.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:46 pmIf this was true, every Democrat would be calling for a withdrawl from Iraq and would be willing to cut off funds.
But it’s not true.
Comment by Brassmask — August 26, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
You mean every patriotic Democrat, not the DINOs who are on the corporate GOP dole. And every patriotic Democrat is calling for total withdrawal, as are some of the tiny handful of Republicans who don’t hate American troops. We understand your envy of the troops’ courage, assmask, but you shouldn’t be wishing for their deaths just because you’re a coward.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:09 pmDoes this mean we need to put the national guard on a watchlist?
August 26th, 2007 at 3:24 pmWill the Pentagon add the National Guard to their list of “peace activist” organizations?
August 26th, 2007 at 3:26 pmWhy does the National Guard hate the chymp>?
August 26th, 2007 at 3:33 pmI don’t know RUC, but we sure can’t tolertate Americans wanting…. peace and junk…
Label the National Guard a terrorist organization.
They wan’t out of Iraq and that makes them terrorist sympathizers, right?
August 26th, 2007 at 3:35 pmThat could be problematic, putting them on a no fly list. You’d have trouble sending them to Iraq by train!
August 26th, 2007 at 3:39 pmThat could be problematic, putting them on a no fly list. You’d have trouble sending them to Iraq by train!
Comment by RUCerious — August 26, 2007 @ 3:39 pm
Maybe we are on the verge of bringing back the meaning of that saying from Vietnam: “What if They Gave a War and Nobody Came?”
August 26th, 2007 at 3:48 pmIndeed there are billions and billions of reasons why we’d not want to put them on that list, but the fact remains that we get put on the list for cheering on peace, so they should too.
Lets put the whole country on a watch list.
Course, then who’d do the watching?
:|
August 26th, 2007 at 4:14 pmTP moonbats cheer for Iraq failure and withdrawal
I’m not suprised. They are traitors and terrorist sympathizers. The Left should be treated as such for their crimes against humanity.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:19 pmIf this was true, every Democrat would be calling for a withdrawl from Iraq and would be willing to cut off funds.
But it’s not true.
Comment by Brassmask — August 26, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
Of course it isn’t. This is yet another lie that the idiot TPers eat up, uncritically. These TP moonbats are a disgrace to the United States.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:21 pmAs a learned scientist I present a scientific theory.
Perhaps Bush has found that helmet and the big round room they had on X-Men, where he can go in and listen to the thoughts of everyone in the country at one time.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:22 pmI’m not suprised. They are traitors and terrorist sympathizers. The Left should be treated as such for their crimes against humanity.
Comment by TP madam Republican — August 26, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Well if thats your plan then bring it on sucker.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:25 pmThey are traitors and terrorist sympathizers. The Left should be treated as such for their crimes against humanity.
Comment by TPmademeaRepublican — August 26, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Says the traitor and the terrorist.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:26 pmAhh, I see the brownshirts have come out to threaten the leftists again.
It worked in pre-war 1930’s Germany. It will be interesting to see if it works in America.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:29 pmGEZUSS, Mr. p/RAMBRO/MAXIMUS/TPmad, et al is talking to himself again, since nobody else will. Starting his rants a bit early today.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:35 pmYou’d know a lot about that, wouldn’t you upside? How bout I smack you “upside” your head one time? You’d like that?
August 26th, 2007 at 4:38 pmFortunately the brownshirts eventually got their due.
It will eventually end for these wicked men calling themselves the RNC, and when it does, like their Germanic predecessors, it will most likely end badly.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:42 pmIn fact, one could liken these “trolls” like upside and TPmademeaRepublican (assuming they’re more than one person) to the German “VolkSturm”, or “Peoples Storm”.
The Volksturm were the last hold outs of Hitlers nazi army, mostly old men and boys, who took arms against the advancing allied armies at Hitler’s command, to defend the crumbling reichstag to the last dying man, once the regular army had been descimated.
The Volksturm managed to raise only a small disturbance and did little to impede the impending onslaught of the allied advance.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:50 pmIgnore Sybil, Mr P, its whole point of living is trying to push peoples buttons by pinning its psychotic imagination on others, then agreeing with himself that its true. A trip into Mr P’s head————-
August 26th, 2007 at 4:50 pmMr P1 “Those Liberals hate me.”
Mr P2 “Yes they hate you”
Mr P1 “I hate them for saying they hate me”
Mr P2 “Yes, hate them even though they never said that”
Mr P1 “But they thought it, I know they did”
Mr P2 “Yes we know that, we don’t need proof”
Mr P1 “They hate war so they hate peace”
Mr P2 “Peace is war, stupid peace loving liberals”
Mr P1 “Love is hate”
Mr P2 “Death is life”
Mr P1 “Cant they see the problem?”
Mr P2 “Only we can, we are superior”
Label the National Guard a terrorist organization.
They wan’t out of Iraq and that makes them terrorist sympathizers, right?
Comment by FESTIVUS
Yep, they can be convicted under the Military Commissions Act of 2006…
August 26th, 2007 at 5:13 pmComment by JPV — August 26, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
Under those provisions, the entire executive branch could be punished.
August 26th, 2007 at 5:16 pmTP now stands for Terrorist Progress, as Think Progress is an inaccurate description of the treason that takes place here!
August 26th, 2007 at 6:00 pmSo how does the soldiers cheering for leaving Iraq constitute, “aiding the enemy”?
Is that honestly what you’re saying? That cheering for peace equals aiding the enemy?
If so I hope all of your fellow lunkheads are so likewise deluded, for it will ensure your rapid demise.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:07 pmIf the new plan of the neocon right is that 33 percent of the people are going to imprison 67 percent of the people as traitors, then this should be fun to watch.
August 26th, 2007 at 6:09 pm#
TP now stands for Terrorist Progress, as Think Progress is an inaccurate description of the treason that takes place here!
Comment by TPmademeaRepublican — August 26, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
Then you better get off this site, mr. p. Might cause you to think like a progressive!
August 26th, 2007 at 6:10 pmIf so I hope all of your fellow lunkheads are so likewise deluded, for it will ensure your rapid demise.
Comment by Dr. Carl Sagan — August 26, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
Well said, Dr. Sagan!
August 26th, 2007 at 6:15 pmThis has been one of the most b*st posts I ever saw. Congrats TP
August 26th, 2007 at 6:40 pmAnd just how would this nitwit know what the strategy is?
August 26th, 2007 at 7:02 pm“This must scare the hell out of the Bush/War worshippers.
Comment by VerbalKint — August 26, 2007″
And just why would you think that?
August 26th, 2007 at 7:02 pmBecause everything scares the hell out of you.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:04 pm“Because everything scares the hell out of you.
Comment by Dr. Carl Sagan — August 26, 2007″
The only thing that scares me is liberal ignorance!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:05 pmThe only thing that scares me is liberal ignorance!
Comment by michael — August 26, 2007 @ 7:05 pm
Please give us a detailed, specific definition of “liberal ignorance”. Otherwise, it’s a meaningless comment.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:08 pm“Then you better get off this site, mr. p. Might cause you to think like a progressive!
Comment by upside00 — August 26, 2007″
First off don’t leave? Our presence here pisses the liberals off. Second, no intelligent Conservative would ever think like a progressive!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:08 pm“Please give us a detailed, specific definition of “liberal ignoranceâ€. Otherwise, it’s a meaningless comment.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 26, 2007″
Read some of your posts?
August 26th, 2007 at 7:09 pmRead some of your posts?
Comment by michael — August 26, 2007 @ 7:09 pm
Meaningless comment. I’m waiting for your definition.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:11 pmAn example of stupid liberal ignorance:
but you shouldn’t be wishing for their deaths just because you’re a coward.
Comment by ronjazz — August 26, 2007
August 26th, 2007 at 7:12 pmComment by ronjazz — August 26, 2007
Comment by michael — August 26, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
You seem to have a reading comprehension issue. I didn’t ask for what YOU consider to be an “example”. I asked for a DEFINITION of “liberal ignorance”. You used the term. If you cannot define it, then, clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:16 pmAnother example of stupid liberal ignorance:
Anything zooey posts!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:16 pm“If you cannot define it, then, clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 26, 2007″
And like I said, 75% of all liberal posts on TP are all the examples you need. Just read for yourself, you’ll get the idea eventually!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:18 pmJust read for yourself, you’ll get the idea eventually!
Comment by michael — August 26, 2007 @ 7:18 pm
Hmm… can’t even define your own words. Sad… so sad.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:20 pm“Sad… so sad.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 26, 2007″
For who? You? Cheer up?
August 26th, 2007 at 7:24 pmCheer up?
Comment by michael — August 26, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
Again, you cannot define your own words. Apparently you really don’t know what you are talking about.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:26 pm“Apparently you really don’t know what you are talking about.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 26, 2007″
Oh, I know what I’m talking about!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:32 pmOh, I know what I’m talking about!
Comment by michael — August 26, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
Then you should have no problem providing a coherent definition of “liberal ignorance” here. Otherwise, your comment is meaningless.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:35 pm“Otherwise, your comment is meaningless.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 26, 2007″
Just hang around sonny. As more and more of your liberal TP buddies come home from their busy day of protesting the war, they will clearly demonstrate for you their liberal ignorance!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:37 pmthey will clearly demonstrate for you their liberal ignorance!
Comment by michael — August 26, 2007 @ 7:37 pm
And STILL no definition of your own words. Just broad generalizations that make no sense. No specidics, no facts, no statement of position.
YOU CAN’T EVEN DEFINE YOUR OWN WORDS!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! ;-D!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:40 pm“BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! ;-D!!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 26, 2007″
It’s starting even before they return from their protests and put their white flags in their closets!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:53 pmIt’s starting even before they return from their protests and put their white flags in their closets!
Comment by michael — August 26, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
STILL no explanation of your own terms. Why gone so long? Desperately looking for a definition of “liberal ignorance” in Conservapedia?
August 26th, 2007 at 7:59 pmmichael is going nuts; someone please help him!
August 26th, 2007 at 8:01 pm“someone please help him!
Comment by Mother Theresa — August 26, 2007″
How about you?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:12 pmAnother example of stupid neocon ignorance:
Anything michael posts.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:22 pmOh, I know what I’m talking about!
Comment by michael — August 26, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
I doubt even your psychiatrist knows what you’re talking about.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:24 pmYou know what michael is talking about, you just cant address it.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:25 pm“Anything michael posts.
Comment by FESTIVUS — August 26, 2007″
You just get back from the protest?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:26 pmGood! You have admitted that you need help. Now, tell us, how can we help you?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:26 pmYou just get back from the protest?
Comment by michael — August 26, 2007 @ 8:26 pm
Yea. It was a march to support a bill that says your mom can’t produce any more offspring.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:27 pmIt was a huge rally and for some reason, drew large opposition crowds from the animal rights activists.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:29 pmmichael, you have to stop, your making them cry, and now they’re reduced to namecalling. sad state
August 26th, 2007 at 8:30 pmuhhhh, “umbra” is it? Its spelled “you’re” not “your” and you’re lying.
Because NO WHERE did I call ANYONE a name in either of my last two posts.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:32 pmNow shut up and open wider.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:32 pmduh, festivus, sorry if i offended you, and it depends on the area of the country your in dont it
August 26th, 2007 at 8:34 pmOh and the “sad state”, is the one thats being saddled with the welfare bill for you and your family of inbred deadbeats.
Now THATS name calling, moron.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:35 pmsorry festivus, your the only one thats apparent here. hope your welfare lines are short
August 26th, 2007 at 8:36 pmand it depends on the area of the country your in dont it
Comment by umbra — August 26, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
uhhh, no Wordsworth. The contraction for the words “you” and “are” are spelled the same in schools all across the country.
:|
See folks? I told you homeschoolings a bad thing.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:37 pmPoor homeschooled troll.
I’m embarrassed for him.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:39 pmpoor festivus, dropped out of scool to work in the coal mines, pissed at his own misfortune, has resorted to pointing out spelling or gramatical errors.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:39 pmpoor festivus, dropped out of scool to work in the coal mines,
Comment by umbra — August 26, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
Poor umbra.
Can’t even spell school.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:42 pmur reduced to that, left that in for u, thought id give u something to show ur intelligence
August 26th, 2007 at 8:44 pmIf I’m the one who dropped out of “scool”, then why are YOU the one who can’t spell?
:D
August 26th, 2007 at 8:45 pmdont know, i guess i didnt have to fill in as many claims as you did?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:47 pmdont know,
Comment by umbra — August 26, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
Now THAT I believe.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:49 pmi guess i didnt have to fill in as many claims as you did?
Comment by umbra — August 26, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
Yea being illiterate I guess your mom took care of that, huh?
August 26th, 2007 at 8:50 pmthats the only part u understand? i believe that too.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:51 pmdidnt have to file any, went to college, grad, and post. did ok, unlike my lil dropout festivus, glad your doing well after getting out of the pen.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:53 pmthats the only part u understand?
Comment by umbra — August 26, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
I said believe, homeschool.
Believe.
Not understand.
Believe.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:54 pmno festivus, that was a statement
August 26th, 2007 at 8:55 pmwent to college, grad, and post. did ok, unlike my lil dropout festivus, glad your doing well after getting out of the pen.
Comment by numbskull — August 26, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
Apparently they don’t teach contractions at Messiah U.
:|
Because YOU’RE still spelling you’re, your.
Which proves YOU’RE an idiot.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:56 pmAnd you’re probably another greasy little right wing pug nosed pencil dicked prick, who when confronted in person shrivels up like a little girl, like most right wing dickheads do.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:58 pmWellfare lines and umbra: a sure sign we are dealing with a rose colored (red) neck individual. Nevermind, they are disappearing at a faster rate than North Pole ice sheets.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:59 pmouch, festivus, you poor fool, you have no life? give me your address and ill send you a self help book.
August 26th, 2007 at 8:59 pmsound as if mother theresa was sucking on what festivus was touting as his masterpeace.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:00 pmgive me your address and ill send you a self help book.
Comment by umbra — August 26, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
Give me yours and I’ll teach you a self help course.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:02 pmdr. carl, what could i learn from a 89 year old quadrapalegic
August 26th, 2007 at 9:03 pmhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks
August 26th, 2007 at 9:29 pmThere are so many trolls on this thread that you could raise mushrooms on the dung pile.
August 26th, 2007 at 9:31 pmYou might want to look at where mushrooms are raised
August 26th, 2007 at 9:33 pmShawcross
August 26th, 2007 at 9:50 pm“Those of us who opposed the American war in Indochina should be extremely humble in the face of the appalling aftermath: a form of genocide in Cambodia and horrific tyranny in both Vietnam and Laos. Looking back on my own coverage for The Sunday Times…,I think I concentrated too easily on the corruption and incompetence of the South Vietnamese and their American allies, was too ignorant of the inhuman Hanoi regime, and far too willing to believe that a victory by the Communists would provide a better future. But after the Communist victory came the refugees to Thailand and the floods of boat people desperately seeking to escape the Cambodian killing fields and the Vietnamese gulags. Their eloquent testimony should have put paid to all illusions. “
dr. carl, what could i learn from a 89 year old quadrapalegic
Comment by umbra — August 26, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
Stephen Hawking was born in ‘42. I could learn tons from him
August 26th, 2007 at 10:01 pmYou might want to look at where mushrooms are raised
Comment by umbra — August 26, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
In the US, they are raised on compost. In France, you should not ask. In Germany, they are harvested from the forest (wald) (Where a knowledge of species is important.).
August 26th, 2007 at 10:01 pmI just picked up a flat of mushrooms today, yes, a heaping dose of compost was there. Commercially grown.
August 26th, 2007 at 10:09 pmI just picked up a flat of mushrooms today, yes, a heaping dose of compost was there. Commercially grown.
Comment by umbra — August 26, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
What kinds? It has been super dry here but I quess I have been too busy anyway
August 26th, 2007 at 10:13 pmPortabellas (Portobellos), Shiitakes, Criminis and White
August 26th, 2007 at 10:17 pmDrought here too, tomatoes have already dried up, thats why i had to buy some, bought some tomatoes too
August 26th, 2007 at 10:20 pmSwifty!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 10:20 pm>But it’s not true.
You’re saying this article is false? He didnt get a standing ovation from the troops?
Ps… I think I figured out a good way to cause mr. P some serious serious unhappiness in his online life.. I need some help though, can some regular who posts here and is in off-site communication with other TP’ers please give me a link to a blog or website or something where I can private message them and tell them of my plans?
August 26th, 2007 at 10:58 pmSwifty!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 26, 2007 @ 10:20 pm
Swifty take a pint or two of Amanita phalloides and post me in the morning. We’ll all feel better.
August 26th, 2007 at 11:04 pmI think I figured out a good way to cause mr. P some serious serious unhappiness in his online life.. I need some help though, can some regular who posts here and is in off-site communication with other TP’ers please give me a link to a blog or website or something where I can private message them and tell them of my plans?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:43 amhttp://www.azstarnet.com/metro/198240.php-
Cancer in Iraq vets raises possibility of toxic exposure
Source: Arizona Daily Star
After serving in Vietnam nearly 40 years ago — and receiving the Bronze Star for it — the Tucson soldier was called back to active duty in Iraq. While there, he awoke one morning with a sore throat. Eighteen months later, Army Sgt. James Lauderdale was dead, of a bizarrely aggressive cancer rarely seen by the doctors who tried to treat it.
As a result, his stunned and heartbroken family has joined growing ranks of sickened and dying Iraq war vets and their families who believe exposures to toxic poisons in the war zone are behind their illnesses — mostly cancers, striking the young, taking them down with alarming speed.
The number of these cancers remains undisclosed, with military officials citing patient privacy issues, as well as lack of evidence the cases are linked to conditions in the war zone. The U.S. Congress has ordered a probe of suspect toxins and may soon begin widespread testing of our armed forces.
Read more: http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/198240.php
—Suspect: depleted uranium
None of these soldiers know for sure what’s killing them. But they suspect it’s a cascade of multiple toxic exposures, coupled with the intense stress of daily life in a war zone weakening their immune systems. “There’s so much pollution from so many sources, your body can’t fight what’s coming at it,” Valentin said. “And you don’t eat well or sleep well, ever. That weakens you, too. There’s no chance to gather your strength. These are kids 19, 20 and 21 getting all kinds of cancers. The Walter Reed cancer ward is packed full with them.”
The prime suspect in all this, in the minds of many victims — and some scientists — is what’s known as depleted uranium — the radioactive chemical prized by the military for its ability to penetrate armored vehicles. When munitions explode, the substance hits the air as fine dust, easily inhaled.
Last month, the Iraqi environment minister blamed the tons of the chemical dropped during the war’s “shock and awe” campaign for a surge of cancer cases across the country. however, the Pentagon and U.S. State Department strongly deny this, citing four studies, including one by the World Health Organization, that found levels in war zones not harmful to civilians or soldiers. A U.N. Environmental Program study concurs, but only if spent munitions are cleared away.
Returning solders have said that isn’t happening. “When tanks exploded, I would handle those tanks, and there was DU everywhere,” said Valentin. “This is a big issue.” –”This a a very wrenching case,” said Dr. Harinder Garewal. “This is unusually aggressive behavior for an oral cancer. I would agree it happens in only 1 percent of cases.” When oral cancer occurs in nonsmokers and non-drinkers, it tends to be more aggressive, he
said. “My feeling is the immune system for some reason can’t handle the cancer,” he said.
Jim Lauderdale died on July 14, 2006, and was buried in Arlington National Cemetery.dixie and their two grown children still feel the raw grief of loss, but not anger, she said. “But I am convinced something very wrong is happening over there. Is anyone paying
August 27th, 2007 at 7:30 amattention to this? Is the cancer ward still full?” she asked. “I would hate to see another whole generation affected like this, but I’m very afraid it will be.”
At the risk of putting this thread back on topic (I see that yesterday evening it totally turned to playground name-calling from both sides), I have always thought it dangerous to have our National Guard overseas. We found this out two years ago when Katrina hit and we desperately needed our National Guard HERE, where they belong. We are in the midst of another hurricane season now (September is traditionally a heavy month for hurricane activity and it’s almost upon us) and much of our NG is deployed halfway around the world.
Another outrage is that our Guard is doing sustained active duty fighting alongside regular Army without the same benefits.
The National Guard is designed to protect us at home. If they are deployed for an emergency overseas, it’s not supposed to be for long sustained periods of time. It’s time for our IIC to finally admit that our wars are understaffed. If it’s truly a righteous fight, then no American should mind reinstating the draft. If it’s not, then we must get out.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:06 amSorry folks, this story is completely false.
I was in the audience during the governor’s speech. Not only did his call for withdrawal not get a standing ovation, it didn’t get applause of any kind. It was met with silence.
The applause came when he called for repealing the recent amendment to the Insurrection Act that allows the president to federalize Guard troops during domestic emergencies without a governor’s permission.
So this story is either a fabrication or a misunderstanding, but either way it’s not true.
August 27th, 2007 at 2:00 pmWas “withdrawal” the word Acevedo-Vila actually used? Does anyone have a link to audio/video?
August 27th, 2007 at 2:31 pmDon’t remember if he actually said “withdrawal” but the meaning was clear. Either way, the statement didn’t get any expression of support from the troops there. I don’t think the video is posted anywhere… the NGAUS videotaped it, and I suppose they could provide a copy if someone requested it.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:12 amPress reports now disputing this ever happened
August 29th, 2007 at 1:32 pmHere’s a link…
http://www.armytimes.com/ news/ 2007/ 08/ airforce_guard_ovation_070828/
August 29th, 2007 at 1:33 pmI think I’m beating a dead horse by now, but here’s the latest on this story.
Report of ovation at Guard conference disputed
By Bryant Jordan - Staff writer
Posted : Wednesday Aug 29, 2007 12:04:21 EDT
Army and Air National Guardsmen attending the National Guard Association’s conference in Puerto Rico last week did not break into applause or give a standing ovation Aug. 25 when the governor called for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq, an official for the 45,000-member organization said this morning.
“Categorically not true,†said John Goheen, spokesman for the Washington, D.C.-based group. “To put a standing ovation to the governor’s … comments are beyond a reach.â€
That nearly 4,000 guard members offered up a standing ovation after Gov. Anibal Acevedo Vila called for a withdrawal from Iraq has been widely reported, including by Associated Press.
Goheen said he has been in contact with AP, provided it a recording of the governor’s speech, and expects it will issue a correction. In New York, an AP spokeswoman confirmed the news service is looking into the matter.
Goheen said Acevedo’s speech touched on Iraq, but it also addressed a number of other issues, and it was only when the speech was over that those in attendance gave him the ovation. “To say … that standing and applauding upon his [departure] was in any way an endorsement of the specifics of his views on Iraq is simply beyond a reach,†Goheen said.
Only once during his speech did attendees interrupt with applause, said Goheen, and that was when Acevedo — echoing the view of all U.S. governors — called for repealing a Bush administration addition to the insurrection act that makes it easier for the president to federalize state guardsmen.
Acevedo, who is a Democrat, said the Bush administration has no new strategy or signs of success in Iraq and that increasing the number of Army and Air Guardsmen and reservists in the war places “our soldiers in danger for the umpteenth time since the beginning of the global war on terrorism.â€
The National Guard Association, which was in Puerto Rico for its 129th general conference, is a nonpartisan group representing about 45,000 current and former Air and Army National Guard officers.
Source: http://www.armytimes.com/ news/ 2007/ 08/ airforce_guard_ovation_070828/
August 29th, 2007 at 8:26 pm