Sen. Larry Craig arrested, pleads guilty.
Sen. Larry Craig arrested, pleads guilty.
Roll Call reports today that Sen. Larry Craig (R-ID) was arrested in June at a Minnesota airport for “lewd conduct” in a men’s public restroom. On Aug. 8, he pleaded guilty to “misdemeanor disorderly conduct. He “paid more than $500 in fines and fees, and a 10-day jail sentence was stayed. He also was given one year of probation.” The arresting officer’s report explains:
My experience has shown that individuals engaging in lewd conduct use their bags to block the view from the front of their stall. From my seated position, I could observe the shoes and ankles of Craig seated to the left of me. [...]
At 1216 hours, Craig tapped his right foot. I recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct. Craig tapped his toes several times and moves his foot closer to my foot. I moved my foot up and down slowly. While this was occurring, the male in the stall to my right was still present. I could hear several unknown persons in the restroom that appeared to use the restroom for its intended use. The presence of others did not seem to deter Craig as he moved his right foot so that it touched the side of my left foot which was within my stall area.
UPDATE: Larry Craig called Bill Clinton “a bad boy, a naughty boy” in 1999.
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Yea I saw this on CNN a few minutes ago.
Another self righteous republican, busted.
In a mens room.
:|
August 27th, 2007 at 5:42 pmHe was coming on to Sali, who smelled so good.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:43 pmAnother 'Family Values' act...
August 27th, 2007 at 5:43 pmMore details than we really need here, we know this poor fool is done for politically. Senator, please resign and do your self a favor.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:43 pmOr, have the guy in the next stall do you a favor.
Okay, so what is going to be the right-wing take on this? Defer to "Cold Cash Jefferson", or say that liberals are gay bashing? At least the Senator plead guilty, so this doesn't have to be another long, drawn out, Tom Delay, Bob Ney, Duke Cunningham, Mark Foley thing.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:43 pmWhere is Zooey? She will eat this up!
August 27th, 2007 at 5:44 pmYou have to be kidding! Family values strikes again. I just can't believe there are people like that in high office. What a potatoe head.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:44 pmGOP=Group of Perverts
August 27th, 2007 at 5:45 pmA Republican and lewd conduct. Let's see the trolls line up to stand behind this man.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:45 pmMaybe he thought the officer was black and didn't want to be attacked. Isn't that how the Republican logic works?
August 27th, 2007 at 5:45 pmYes but the good, conservative folk in Idaho believed he would represent their values.....
Dumbshits. (except Zooey, of course)
August 27th, 2007 at 5:45 pmWhat a romantic, classy set of facts.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:45 pmYou republicans sure are a seedy lot for a bunch of stump preachers.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:45 pmA republican and lewd conduct. They go hand in hand.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:45 pm#
A Republican and lewd conduct. Let’s see the trolls line up to stand behind this man.
Comment by hellinabucket — August 27, 2007 @ 5:45 pm
#
AWW! Bad visual!
August 27th, 2007 at 5:45 pmBeing from Idaho, the right honorable senator had heard how easy it was to get laid in a Sodom and Gommorah state like Minnesota.
I mean, c'mon. Those guys are easy!
August 27th, 2007 at 5:45 pm.
Tap three times on the stall floor if you Waaaant me!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 5:46 pmMaybe he does represent the values of the men in Idaho.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:46 pmLibtard! Libtard!
ct
August 27th, 2007 at 5:47 pmI recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct.
Oh crap. Can you imagine that your job is such that you know such things? Next time I'm in a public washroom, I'm going to remain as still as possible. You just never know if a closet gay christian is looking for some action.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:47 pmSomeone is gonna need the "Ted Haggard" salvation treatment. Then he'll be as good as new.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:47 pmThe trolls may not stand behind this man--but they'll sure kneel in front!
August 27th, 2007 at 5:47 pmIs this more of Foley's, "no childs behind left behind" program?
August 27th, 2007 at 5:47 pmYou mean the architect of the GOPr omnibus energy policy made lewd gestures? Tell me more!
I thought he had a totally diff idea what "energy" was.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:48 pm#
Libtard! Libtard!
ct
Comment by ct — August 27, 2007 @ 5:47 pm
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Yeah, I figured that would be the republican response.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:49 pmHow close was his office to Foley's?
August 27th, 2007 at 5:49 pmWhat a romantic, classy set of facts.
Comment by James — August 27, 2007 @ 5:45 pm
Yes. So classy.
:|
Very sophisticated.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:49 pmThat's hot!
What was he gonna do, crawl under, join the guy in the other stall, and blow him while he was taking a _____ ?
"Tap,tap.....oh look a foot.....tap,tap....and he's gay...YES"
August 27th, 2007 at 5:49 pmMaybe he was just looking for Bob Filner's(D-CA) luggage.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:49 pm...Twice on the pipe...
Man, that's pretty gay.
"Not that there's anything wrong with that."
August 27th, 2007 at 5:50 pmMmmm...nothing like a good tap in the foot while taking a sh*t.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:51 pmCupid is old-fashion now.
Note to self ... Don't listen to iPod in airport restroom, especially not to music that would have you a tappin...
August 27th, 2007 at 5:51 pmSen. Larry Craig (R-ID)
August 27th, 2007 at 5:51 pm- - Make that, Sen. Larry Craig (R-IDiot)
Dang, its difficult enough as it is to use a public restroom, now I gotta watch out for Republican Senators.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:52 pmComment by alan — August 27, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
Thanks! I was hoping someone would take that plunge and ask that. I did not know what words to use.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:52 pmFrom ontheissues.org: Sen. Larry Craig
August 27th, 2007 at 5:53 pm* Rated 100% by the Christian Coalition: a pro-family voting record. (Dec 2003)
* Voted NO on implementing the 9/11 Commission report. (Mar 2007)
* Voted NO on preserving habeus corpus for Guantanamo detainees. (Sep 2006)
* Voted NO on requiring CIA reports on detainees & interrogation methods. (Sep 2006)
* Voted YES on reauthorizing the PATRIOT Act. (Mar 2006)
* Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex basic training. (Jun 1998)
* Voted YES on confirming Samuel Alito as Supreme Court Justice. (Jan 2006)
* Voted YES on confirming John Roberts for Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. (Sep 2005)
* Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
* Voted YES on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
* Voted NO on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
* Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
* Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
* Voted YES on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)
* Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999)
* Voted YES on banning human cloning. (Feb 1998)
* Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
* Voted YES on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)
* Voted YES on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
* Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
* Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)
* Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
* Voted NO on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)
* Voted YES on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)
* Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
* Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)
* Voted YES on Amendment to prohibit flag burning. (Dec 1995)
* Voted YES on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds. (Jul 1995)
* Supports anti-flag desecration amendment. (Mar 2001)
* Rated 25% by the ACLU, indicating an anti-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
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Why is an arrest that happened in June only being reported upon in late August, weeks after a plea deal was entered? Was this reported locally back then? Seems with a Senator involved it would have made national news immediately. Is this normal? What am I missing?
August 27th, 2007 at 5:53 pmCan't these guys get a hotel, and call for a "massage".
August 27th, 2007 at 5:53 pmSo, after he spends his ten days in jail, will he return to the senate?
August 27th, 2007 at 5:53 pmRUC...
Im laughing... to tears...
August 27th, 2007 at 5:53 pmHe ADMITTED to the crime? How un-GOP. He could have AT LEAST dragged out the Marion Barry defense... Still working after all of these years, too!
August 27th, 2007 at 5:54 pmWhy wouldn't he just go crawl in a hole. How bloody embarrassing - hiding in the closet - I mean bathroom. Come on Larry, just say it out loud - "I'm gay". It's ok Larry you can do it.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:54 pmPoor Zooey, Sali and this idiot? Maybe Idaho will elect some democrats now?
August 27th, 2007 at 5:54 pmYeah, and some Democrat was gay once...
August 27th, 2007 at 5:54 pmI'm betting this guy was another anti-gay conservative activist, right? I mean, it would fit the perfect conservative pattern of hypocrisy.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:54 pmEver since Jeff Gannon got busted for his escort service, all these republican trolls are getting busted. Does anyone find this kinda strange?
August 27th, 2007 at 5:54 pmCraig...there are gay bars, you know?
August 27th, 2007 at 5:56 pmMmmm…nothing like a good tap in the foot while taking a sh*t.
Cupid is old-fashion now.
Comment by Juan C — August 27, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
LOL Good one Juan C.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:57 pmOh crap. Can you imagine that your job is such that you know such things?
Graffitti in many restrooms will actually EXPLAIN the etiquette to you. The one in my building had the cops in it many a time to bust guys who'd been a bit ... to assertive.
Feh. You boys get a room.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:57 pm.
He's on probation for a year? lmao! This story is just too rich. What a day this has been.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:58 pmthanks Grand Moff Texan for his voting record. Another GOPer that votes one way and lives another.
Republicans stand for lies.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:58 pmLarry's sex life is in the crapper.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:58 pmL.Craig will claim later that he went to senior citizen's rehab. center and was cured...
August 27th, 2007 at 5:58 pmSo that's how grown men play footsie (with other grown men)
August 27th, 2007 at 5:59 pmAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
haha ha ha ahhahaha ah ah ah haha ahah ah ah ah ah ah ah ahha ha hahaha ha ha ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah aha ah ahha hahahahhahah ah ah ah aah ah ha ah hahahah h aa
*inhale*
ahha ha ha ha ahha haha haha h aha ha ha ha ha hah a ah ahah ha ha haah ah ah.
More republican family values.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:00 pmTapping your foot is lewd conduct?
How about Monica sucking the Presidents top secret missile?
That' why they call it the Oral Office:)
August 27th, 2007 at 6:00 pmApparently Craig was exposed on the Ed Schultz show last year.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:00 pmGraffitti in many restrooms will actually EXPLAIN the etiquette to you. The one in my building had the cops in it many a time to bust guys who’d been a bit … to assertive.
Feh. You boys get a room.
.
Comment by Grand Moff Texan — August 27, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
Oh shit GMT, I guess I don't use public washrooms much. Graffitti was a bit different when I was in University.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:01 pmJudging by this guy's voting record, he's just another piece of crap GOPervert, who does not know who he is, and is not interested in knowing himself. He denies his own humanity to keep his position of power. He does not think for himself, he does what he is told to do by the Administration, and the Bible.
The ones who are most adamently against something, are the most likely to be engaged in whatever they are against.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:01 pmLarry’s sex life is in the crapper.
Comment by alp3
I...cant...stop..laughing...
August 27th, 2007 at 6:01 pmA Republican and lewd conduct. Let’s see the trolls line up to stand behind this man.
Comment by hellinabucket — August 27, 2007 @ 5:45 pm
"Stand BEHIND this man".....I don't think so nutbuket.... this guy should have his balls smashed with a "ball" peen hammer on an anvle then locked in a room handcuffed with Loraina Bobbit high on crack with a pair of needle nose plyers and a blow torch. So again, your wrong as usual...........
August 27th, 2007 at 6:01 pmThanks President Bush for keeping us safe from terrorist throughout your Presidency . . . oh, wait . . . weren’t you the one who allowed Osama bin Laden to fly jet airliners into the World Trade Center and The Pentagon — the worst terrorist attack EVER to occur on American soil . . . never mind.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:01 pmPresident Bubba had such high moral standards. Integrity none.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:02 pmDirty Bird!
August 27th, 2007 at 6:02 pmConservatives, what's worse:
1) Getting a blow job from a female in your office.
2) Getting a blow job from a male in an airport washroom.
HEHEHEHE
HAHAHAHA
August 27th, 2007 at 6:03 pmCompletely off topic, but if anyone is interested in defending Keith Olbermann from the wingnuts, go to the NBC Sports message boards. Looks like Rush and Billo sent their minions over there to try and bully NBC into canning Olbermann from Football Night in America on Sundays.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:04 pmZed,
You sound a bit homophobic yourself there, Buck.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:04 pmThrow your rocks you hypocrites.
Stone him oh pure ones with pure hearts.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:05 pm#65: You should have added:
1) ... with a consenting adult.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:05 pm2) ... beginning with physical touching of a stranger in the next bathroom stall.
AAARRRRGGH! My link didn't show up in post 66. Just google to get there.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:05 pm1) Getting a blow job from a female in your office.
2) Getting a blow job from a male in an airport washroom.
Comment by yikes
I bet they are really thinking it.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:05 pmNow I understand the term "Daddy Party",thats what republicans call a bathroom stall hook-up.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:06 pmAt first, I thought this story was about the Republican who offered an undercover cop $20 to give him a blow job in a public restroom. But now I realize that was Republican Congressman Bob Allen who was busted a couple of months ago. This involves yet another Republican restroom escapade. There are so many of these now I can't keep track anymore.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:06 pmClinton did lewd conduct too!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 6:06 pmGOP Religious values continued. Now the people of Idaho are represented by a Senator who performs
August 27th, 2007 at 6:06 pm“lewd conductâ€. The numbers keep climbing with the GOP and their sick actions. Is this the new definition of US Republican Christian Values. Fingers Foley had alot of friends that were just as sick as he is, who's next.
I am a constituent of Senator Craig's. In my several letters to him, he has always responded in a condescending way, not addressing the issues I raised. The letters written by me to him were respectful and courteous, however, he seemed to always act like he knew better than me, that he was morally superior.
Craig has now proven what I have known for many years. He is a fraud. More interested in power than doing the will of the people of Idaho.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:06 pmClinton did lewd conduct too!!!
Remember Clinton did it too.
No one remembers? Oh well.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:08 pmMore Republican stall tactics...
August 27th, 2007 at 6:09 pm#66: Good off-topic post.
Here's the link to the Olbermann topic (I hope it works):
http://boards.nbcuni.com/nbcs/index.php?showtopic=314
August 27th, 2007 at 6:10 pmMore interested in power than doing the will of the people of Idaho.
Comment by Tom
Well, he sure wasnt looking for power in the stall next to him.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:11 pmTapping your foot is lewd conduct?
How about Monica sucking the Presidents top secret missile?
That’ why they call it the Oral Office:)
Comment by Bob — August 27, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
Derherher, that's a funny one, Bob Nugent.
Craig: Zzzzzzip. "Whatcha think of that!?!"
August 27th, 2007 at 6:11 pm#77: Nice try, Bob. Guess what, sex between consenting adults in private isn't against the law. Want to try again?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:11 pmGood thing Clinton did not run on family values.
That lets him off in the libtard handbook of virtues.
You can trust a man of integrity like Bill Clinton.
Ask his wife Hillary.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:11 pmZed is offended by this man but doesn't see the pattern. He apparently can't see sarcasm either.
Care not do I for I do not care.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:12 pm#77: Nice try, Bob.
Comment by Snidely Whiplash
Nice try? That was pathetically lame.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:13 pmZed,
You sound a bit homophobic yourself there, Buck.
Comment by ForTruth — August 27, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
I could not care less if you and your boy friends blow each other to death...I pay this guys salary and bennies AND he is a Representative of the people in the senate ..... I not only have a right to criticize it is my duty as an American to speak up....you should be just as outraged at public servants who brake the laws no matter which party they are from............
August 27th, 2007 at 6:13 pmClinton loved doing the "business of the people"
Doin' Monica was "business of the people" right?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:14 pmComment by Bob — August 27, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
It took the troll almost 30 minutes to go to the "Clinton did it!" meme. I think they were busy on a different thread, much like flies on flypaper.
How are things in Virginia, "Bob"?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:14 pmHA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA.
I bet that 1/4 of the Repugs are closet homosexuals. Just sayin!
August 27th, 2007 at 6:16 pmClinton loved his presidential powers and so did Monica.
Hey presidents get horny too:)
August 27th, 2007 at 6:16 pmWhy do we even have to break down the difference between what Clinton did and what this guy did? Oh yeah, the trolls are stupid.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:17 pmRepuke values at their finest. It says a lot that this rt-wing perv knew the foot "codes" used by these sorts of guys.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:17 pmI am amazed.
Can _anyone_ explain to me why in the US there are cops doing undercover work in men's stalls, undercover work that looks suspiciously like something that the Thought Police would come up with?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:18 pmBob, just admit your gayness.
It´s ok. I guess you can play football and get laid without a shower in the middle.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:18 pmTapping your foot repeatedly and placing it next to the foot in the next stall is more than just about gay sex - it's about power and dominance.
It's about Power Over Others - or POO
August 27th, 2007 at 6:18 pmDo you think this guy thought to himself in that stall, "hey, Clinton did lewd acts so I should be able to do it too?" as he is pulling down in his pants in that public restroom.. Yeah, that makes sense to me.. I'd like to hear him use that defense in court. ;-)
August 27th, 2007 at 6:19 pmI know the GOP blows but I had no idea there was warrantless tapping even in the restroom! I have a feeling we haven't seen the climax of this yet.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:19 pmZed,
I have plenty to be outraged over. You, however, seemed to be overly reactive to gayness, and then generalized your outrage to "breaking the law".
Zed you are homophobic.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:19 pmYou figure he should make enough cash to find someone not in a restroom. I guess he figured if he hired someone it would be in a phone record somewhere heh
August 27th, 2007 at 6:19 pmI don't think Clinton ever did what this guy is guilty of. Now he's going to do some hard time. Confined with other men doing hard time.
yeah, that's bad. I'm done.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:19 pmThe bathroom BJ...these folks make Bill Clinton seem like a real stand up, normal guy for getting oral from a female intern. I'd always looked at it that if I was the President of the most powerful country in the world couldn't I get some decent action...that is the real disappointment. Now we see that maybe that isn't so weird as Senators and congressmen have to resort to a Bathroom BJ from some random person...wow bad judgement for your BJs so to speak. Being in Govt. appears not to get you laid anymore.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:20 pmTp
I love threads like this cause I get to bring up "Clinton did it too" again and again. thanks
Libs worship Clinton as a god here.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:21 pmComment by hellinabucket — August 27, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
Grrrrrrooooooaaaaaannnnnn
August 27th, 2007 at 6:21 pmComment by LibStl — August 27, 2007
Done! Thanks for the heads up.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:21 pmHow did the Repubican know the Gay signals? I guess somebody "toed" him all about it!
August 27th, 2007 at 6:21 pmThanks Snidley @79. No matter what I did, I couldn't get the link to work.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:21 pmTHis is about power not sex
August 27th, 2007 at 6:21 pmLarry "Gloryhole"Craig.
Heh.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:21 pmSenator Craig, you have a phone call from a republican state senator from Florida, his name was Bob Allen if I remember right.....something about mens room activities.....and a rev Ted Haggard is on line 2,
Oh and before I forget, a Jeff Gannon called about your new position....
August 27th, 2007 at 6:22 pmAnd Clinton laying down the pipe for some consenting younger female intern relates to Craig wanting to suck a d!ck while taking a sh!t matters how?
Clinton didn't run on family values and voting against adult heterosexual consensual sex. Your posts are empty as usual.
Careful, you might blow a gasket thinking about pu$$y when you never get it.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:22 pmLarry Craig is too old for Mark Foley.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:23 pmClinton loved doing the “business of the peopleâ€
Doin’ Monica was “business of the people†right?
Clinton loved his presidential powers and so did Monica.
Hey presidents get horny too:)
Good thing Clinton did not run on family values.
That lets him off in the libtard handbook of virtues.
You can trust a man of integrity like Bill Clinton.
Ask his wife Hillary.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:24 pmJesus F*cking Christ.
That f*cker has the nerve to send me a condescending email A WEEK after HE'S arrested for being a sick f*ck in a public restroom?
He's getting a two word email from me right now.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:24 pmI have plenty to be outraged over. You, however, seemed to be overly reactive to gayness, and then generalized your outrage to “breaking the lawâ€.
Zed you are homophobic.
Comment by ForTruth — August 27, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
OK.....?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:24 pmComment by troqua — August 27, 2007 @ 6:21 pm
Saw your post on there! Nicely done.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:24 pmAnd Clinton laying down the pipe for some consenting younger female intern relates to Craig wanting to suck a d!ck while taking a sh!t matters how?
Clinton didn’t run on family values and voting against adult heterosexual consensual sex. Your posts are empty as usual.
Careful, you might blow a gasket thinking about pu$$y when you never get it.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
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Spuddie your such a family type guy.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:25 pmLook at Craig's voting record
A quick review of his voting record above shows a pattern where any bill with the word 'ban' in it he voted for.
Any bill that gave people power - marriage, stem cell research - he voted against
So he's about keeping power to a small group that includes himself. That's what white male Republicans are about - keeping power within an elite circle and keeping power away from everyone else
August 27th, 2007 at 6:26 pmClinton laying down the pipe for some consenting younger female intern relates to Craig wanting to suck a d!ck while taking a sh!t how?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:26 pmZooey--I love your posts. Go get 'im!
August 27th, 2007 at 6:26 pmSaw your post on there! Nicely done.
Comment by LibStl — August 27, 2007
Thanks for the heads up!
August 27th, 2007 at 6:26 pmComment by Bob — August 27, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
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Republican logic 101: A republican soliciting sex from an undercover police officer is much better than two democrats having consensual sex. One is worth impeachment, the other is an actual crime. Watch, after his 10 days in jail he will be welcomed back to the senate by his fellow repubs.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:27 pmIf I take one lesson from this story it is this: do not play rock and roll on the iPod while taking a dump in the Minneapolis airport men's room.
"Whipping Post" is definitely a bad plan.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:27 pmWhat's the matter Bob? Do you get all flustered when you know that other people are enjoying sex while all you are left with is whacking it in your mom's basement?
Not my fault bud.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:27 pmBeing in government totally gets you laid, it's just that Repukes are dysfunctional about it. They wrassle with biology and the voting base.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:29 pmMSNBC is reporting that yet another Cop has died being a part of the presidential motorcade. Not a good day for the idiot in chief.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:29 pmso where's the troll droppings on this one? c'mon, defend your perv republican buddy!
August 27th, 2007 at 6:30 pmShouldn't you homos be progressive and embrace this guy? Because right about now Republicans aren't crazy about him.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:30 pmBut I would have thought that you lefties would consider homosexual "foot touching" in a public restroom to be a good thing.
Why all the hate?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:31 pmI in no way mean to defend Senator Craig, especially in view of the fact that he has repeatedly voted to make gays second-class citizens.
But as long as society continues to consider homosexuality shameful and indecent, some gay men will engage in illicit behavior to obtain sexual gratification. Many gays feel they are forced to live in the shadows, that they are by definition "sick immoral perverts" anyway, and live their lives accordingly.
The stigma on homosexuality needs to be lifted, homophobia needs to be eradicated, so that more healthy and safe methods for gays to meet and "hook up" will become the norm.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:31 pmThrow your rocks you hypocrites.
Stone him oh pure ones with pure hearts.
Comment by W.J.Clinton — August 27, 2007 @ 6:05 pm
uhhh, sanity check Charlemene.
We're not the ones selling our campaigns based on stamping out homosexuality, or so called "christian values" or "family values".
Thats your guys schtick.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:31 pmYeah Gummitch,
Don't tap your foot to anything in the men's washroom. Not that I ever felt that comfy in there anyway. There's always some guy who's already taken the nastiest sh!t, he's in some kind of pain it seems. Maybe it was Craig.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:32 pmClinton laying down the pipe for some consenting younger female intern relates to Craig wanting to suck a d!ck while taking a sh!t how?
Comment by Spudge_Boy — August 27, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
Seems like the moderators could catch some of these typos if they wanted to.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:32 pmso where’s the troll droppings on this one? c’mon, defend your perv republican buddy!
Comment by joe cantwell
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Why would I defend him?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:33 pmSanctimonious, self-righteous moral arbiters for the rest of us are so often the most despicable, disgusting sexual perverts.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:34 pmIf they aren't adulterers, they are perverts or both. Their numbers seem to be in disporportion to the general propulation.
But I would have thought that you lefties would consider homosexual “foot touching†in a public restroom to be a good thing.
Why all the hate?
Comment by Ringo — August 27, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
All that time spent on this site and you still know nothing about us "lefties." How sad. And there's no hate from me. I just think the guy's a huge hypocrite.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:34 pmGOP = Gay Old Party
Isn't it great that Bill Clinton only has sex with adult women in private places?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:34 pmEggy,
I'm not all up to speed on the gay hook up stuff, but the internet and gay bars seem more healthy than the airport restroom. We do need to be progressive, and start a campaign for the closeted Goopers, call it something like "OutRight".
August 27th, 2007 at 6:34 pmhoo boy... away for a few hours... figured this thread would
be good for some needed laughs...
so far (50s), this is the best... good call!
Tap three times on the stall floor if you Waaaant me!!!
Comment by Tony Orlando — August 27, 2007 @ 5:46 pm
oh, and "twice on the pipe means the answer is no", btw...
August 27th, 2007 at 6:35 pm...
Why would I defend him?
Comment by Ringo — August 27, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
You're right.
His attorney will do that.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:35 pmI just think the guy’s a huge hypocrite.
Comment by LibStl
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I would agree.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:35 pmBill Clinton again? From the same overstimulated pen? You can sure tell when a guy is jealous of Bill Clinton's preference for females. All these years and he can't keep Bill Clinton out of his mouth. It can't be his mind putting out those arguments. It took 40 million tax dollars to half-nail Clinton on private hanky panky and it took a few minutes of a mall security guard's time and no taxes to nail this guy soliciting public sex. Admit your obvious obsession and accept that prefers Hillary to you.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:36 pm"Tapping your foot is lewd conduct?"
If what Craig did wasn't illegal, he would not have pleaded guilty.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:36 pmSURPRISE!!
Craig's email address is not functioning.
I'll just have to call instead.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:36 pm“But I would have thought that you lefties would consider homosexual “foot touching†in a public restroom to be a good thing.
Why all the hate?
Comment by Ringo — August 27, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
Wow, is foot touching all it takes to be a homosexual these days?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:37 pmI see Dingo's finally learning.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:37 pmLarry Craig on Meet the Press, 1994:
That's just cracking me up! Naughty!
August 27th, 2007 at 6:37 pmThe stigma on homosexuality needs to be lifted, homophobia needs to be eradicated, so that more healthy and safe methods for gays to meet and “hook up†will become the norm.
Comment by Egreggious — August 27, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
This is true, Egg, but it certainly doesn't help when people like Craig can't even pretend to be neutral about it.
It's also possible that Craig is one of the people, gay or straight, who gets satisfaction from the dangers of public sex and who would have been trying to hook up in a restroom regardless of whether there was a stigma attached to gay sex or not.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:37 pmCall me naive, but I had not clue about this. The next time I am in a public stall, I'm going to have to watch where I put my attache case and beware of people in the next stall tapping their foot.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:38 pmoh, and “twice on the pipe means the answer is noâ€, btw…
…
Comment by katy — August 27, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
I hope you're embarrassed to know that.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:39 pmUPDATE: Larry Craig called Bill Clinton “a bad boy, a naughty boy†in 1999
Who's the "naughty boy" now, hypocrite?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:39 pm"President Bubba had such high moral standards. Integrity none.
Comment by Bob"
Predictable "Clinton did it too" defense.
Clinton got impeached; what do you suggest should happen to this republic party self-hating assimilator?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:39 pmWhy all the hate?
Comment by Dingo — August 27, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
I would put it no higher than pathos.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:39 pm"Was this reported locally back then? Seems with a Senator involved it would have made national news immediately. Is this normal? What am I missing?"
It's that damn liberal media. They covered it up!
August 27th, 2007 at 6:39 pmShouldn’t you homos be progressive and embrace this guy? Because right about now Republicans aren’t crazy about him.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
? call yourself a troll?!
August 27th, 2007 at 6:40 pmTime to start a Sali rumor, like he was caught having sex with a sheep.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:41 pmSen. Craig was just being "FRIENDLY" to his neighbor that's all. Doesn't everyone tap three times to indicate you want to play footsie with the guy in the next stall? Leave it to liberals to make this innocent flirtation into something GAY bashing. What's a little touching between girls, got to do with anything. I mean, guys, of course. I didn't mean to imply the Senator is gay. Just because he let his emotions get the best of him, doesn't mean he's gay. When is the last time you saw a GAY Republican. They believe in family values, so they can't possibly be gay. They look down on Gays when they are on top of them. Larry, I mean, "loraine" is a good ole boy, he couldn't be gay. They just don't have openly gay guys in I-da- Ho, or should we say, "he-da-he", when describing Craigs advances toward a cop?
Who Knows? The Shadow knows!
August 27th, 2007 at 6:41 pm"But I would have thought that you lefties would consider homosexual “foot touching†in a public restroom"
Another clueless righty who does not understand liberals and what they think. The legal problem here is public restroom. The moral problem is that he has been exposed as a hypocrite who preaches one thing and practices the opposite.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:41 pmNo child's behind left, or especially no grown mense's.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:42 pmanother self- righteous hypocritical CONTRD, Republi-SCUM.
The reason he was tapping his foot was because he was listening to a peppy George Michael tune on his ipod.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:42 pmWhy do we even have to break down the difference between what Clinton did and what this guy did? Oh yeah, the trolls are stupid.
Comment by ForTruth
It's not so much that they are stupid, it's just all they have. If they couldn't blame Clinton to bring up a straw man and change the subject they would have nothing to say.
But, on the other hand, they are pretty stupid.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:43 pmOne Question;
Will the Senator be registering with the Idaho state Sex Offender Registry to protect our children?
Especially the teen age males who use public restrooms?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:44 pmThe legal problem here is public restroom. The moral problem is that he has been exposed as a hypocrite who preaches one thing and practices the opposite.
Comment by CaptainVideo
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I get it.
I agree with you, he's a pervy and a hypocrite.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:45 pmI said on a different slow thread that all the sanctimonious libs must have come over here to post, and I was challenged on it.
Thanks for proving me right.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:45 pm"Predictable “Clinton did it too†defense"
Clinton did not solicit sex with a male in a public restroom. He only engaged in sex (or everything but in Mona's case) with adult women at private locations.
But Craig's most serious problem is that he has been exposed as another family values hypocrite.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:45 pmI wonder if this is the same Senator on whom Larry Flynt has the goods, as far as using prostitutes is concerned. Or is that going to be another story coming up?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:45 pmLiberals should embrace Gay Republicans? It's YOUR party (and WHAT a party!)
Gays are as American as Betsy Ross but I'll leave the support for public, random sex to you and your closeted heroes.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:45 pmThe reason he was tapping his foot was because he was listening to a peppy George Michael tune on his ipod.
Comment by Ringo — August 27, 2007 @ 6:42 pm
You know Ringo, I disagree with you on almost everything, but I have to say, this was pretty funny.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:46 pmWe have a president who is a closet homosexual and the wife of the vice president who is also in the closet, why should we be shocked by a republican senator in the same boat. "Daddy Party" indeed.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:46 pmThe reason that family values hypocracy is so prevalent among Republicans is that for many of them family values is just a ploy to get lower income people to vote against their economic self interest by voting for the party of the rich.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:47 pmY'all libs can surely sniff blood in the water. Good for you, you homo hypocrites, and thank you and Roll Call for making hay, because MSM was not gonna say a peep until October next year. They call it "the Foley gambit".
They say it doesn't matter how you win. I say it does, and you're scum.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:47 pmNot sure where r gets the "sanctimonious" from.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:48 pmBTW does being ON Probation mean he can't enjoy the republican cloak room perks in the US senate?
Or will the other re-pubies keep covering up for him?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:48 pmChristof*ckingmighty! Another Repug oozes out of the closet. Are they all hypocrites? Is there something in the water? Is there a gay virus on the bottom of the collection plate?
St. Daryll, we need an expert opinion here, what’s up with Repugs and butt sex?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:48 pmThey say it doesn’t matter how you win. I say it does, and you’re scum.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 6:47 pm
So you think Senator Craig's illegal actions are irrelevant to his political service?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:50 pmThe reason he was tapping his foot was because he was listening to a peppy George Michael tune on his ipod.
Comment by Ringo — August 27, 2007 @ 6:42 pm
Ok Ringo, come out of the closet. You are a closet liberal and you know it. No Repug has a sense of humor, and that was pretty good.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:50 pmOk Ringo, come out of the closet. You are a closet liberal and you know it. No Repug has a sense of humor, and that was pretty good.
Comment by nanlichi — August 27, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
Ha. He stole my joke! See #122.
Another frickin' plagiarist.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:52 pmHa. He stole my joke! See #122.
Another frickin’ plagiarist.
Comment by gummitch — August 27, 2007 @ 6:52 pm
Yes bummitch, this site is all about you.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:53 pmThe Repukes have fully taken advantage of their "base" and fooled all the religious types into voting for them. Just ask Karl.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:54 pmYes bummitch, this site is all about you.
Comment by r — August 27, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
Mr Pee's not going to like hearing that.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:54 pmRove is probably gay too.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:55 pmRove is probably gay too.
Comment by ForTruth — August 27, 2007 @ 6:55
Guckert/Gannon would agree.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:56 pmI guess Brassmask is gonna bring up the 1971 incident where a Dem paid a hooker with a check again.....the only one he can come up with, the loser.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:57 pmHey Bassface, that was one Dem 36 years ago, go suck an egg (code for you know what) ya sicko.
Yes bummitch, this site is all about you.
Comment by r — August 27, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
Apologies about the misspelling. It probably looks like a silly slur, but it’s just fat fingers.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:58 pmThey say it doesn’t matter how you win. I say it does, and you’re scum.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 6:47 pm
So you think Senator Craig’s illegal actions are irrelevant to his political service?
Comment by Egreggious — August 27, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
No, I think they're relevant, that if the story is true I'm ashamed of him, and I'm glad it came out now rather than October 2008.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:58 pmATTENTION US GOVERNMENT
The Pope wants his perverts back.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:59 pmYes bummitch, this site is all about you.
Comment by r — August 27, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
You're a fool, and apparently one who cannot read.
August 27th, 2007 at 6:59 pmAll he needs is Billo and a felafel in hand and his secret dream will come true.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:00 pmNo, I think they’re relevant, that if the story is true I’m ashamed of him, and I’m glad it came out now rather than October 2008.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 6:58 pm
I really misread your previous post then.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:01 pmThe only thing better than Gonzo resigning is;
Gonzo resigning with a hypocritical re-pubic-an getting outed as a lying hypocrite the same day.......
August 27th, 2007 at 7:01 pm... because MSM was not gonna say a peep until October next year...
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 6:47 pm
Can I get a link to this please?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:02 pmOk Ringo, come out of the closet. You are a closet liberal and you know it. No Repug has a sense of humor, and that was pretty good.
Comment by nanlichi
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I am fairly liberal on many social issues.
I think that homosexuals should be allowed to serve openly in the armed forces.
I am pro-choice through the first trimester.
I think that most drug usage should be de-criminalized and that marijuana should be legalized.
And I am in favor of civil unions for same sex couples.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:04 pmSo no, Craig ain't better than Clinton The Rapist.
Now YOU say it.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:04 pmYes bummitch, this site is all about you.
Comment by r — August 27, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
You’re a fool, and apparently one who cannot read.
Comment by gummitch — August 27, 2007 @ 6:59 pm
Of course I can read, it’s obvious by my posting comments to things I’ve seen on this site. But you probably didn’t really mean what you posted – as usual. And you call others a fool. Pot – Kettle.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:05 pmThe stigma on homosexuality needs to be lifted, homophobia needs to be eradicated, so that more healthy and safe methods for gays to meet and “hook up†will become the norm.
Comment by Egreggious — August 27, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
You're right, Egg. Sen Craig is quite literally unreachable right now, but that's the message I left on his Washington voice mail.
He needs to resign immediately -- not because he's a gay man, but because he's a filthy hypocrite.
I don't like Sen Craig one bit, but it's because of his assholierthanthou attitude and horrible voting record -- not because of his sexuality.
He perpetuates the fear and loathing of "the gay" by hiding in the closet, and I don't know how he lives with himself.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:05 pmClinton The Rapist?
Not familiar with that character.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:06 pmSomeone's having fun with Craig's Wiki entry.
He grew up on a ranch outside Midvale, a ranch he likes to brag his grandfather "homesteaded" in 1899. Now, unfortunately, it will be viewed as the Brokeback Mountain of the Potato State (lol).
and
Craig believes that discharging your weapon is protected by the U.S. Constitution (no pun intended).
August 27th, 2007 at 7:06 pm"The court docket said the Republican senator was fined $1,000, plus $575 in fees. He was put on unsupervised probation for a year. A sentence of 10 days in the county workhouse was stayed."
August 27th, 2007 at 7:06 pmClinton The Rapist?
Not familiar with that character.
Comment by Egreggious — August 27, 2007 @ 7:06 pm
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Clinton took advantage of young women and interns.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:07 pmRingo just got a little bit cool. If he meant it.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:07 pmClinton The Rapist.
Got a LINK to a guilty verdict?
Or is innocent until the guilty pleads out forgotten now a days?
Oh I forgot only the reichwing gets to make UNSUBSTANTIATED and unproven accusations even when one of their own PLEADS GUILTY.
Silly me.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:08 pmRingo just got a little bit cool. If he meant it.
Comment by ForTruth
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I do.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:08 pmClinton took advantage of young women and interns.
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 27, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
Clinton who?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:08 pmI hope you’re embarrassed to know that.
Comment by gummitch — August 27, 2007 @ 6:39 pm
not at all... it was a fun song to sing along with...
August 27th, 2007 at 7:08 pmgot old real quick, but still a "classic"...
Silly me.
Comment by clif — August 27, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
me Swifty.
Swifty!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 7:09 pmZooey,
This guy lives with himself by heaping misery on others, he likes the company.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:09 pmNow Craig is compounding the problem. His office is saying that he didn't really mean to plead guilty. He's denying the charges to which he previously admitted. What kind of a Senator would plead guilty to a crime and then say it didn't count and it never happened because he didn't really mean to plead guilty to the charge? Is this the type of person who is competent to enact laws?
And why has this story been around for weeks and not been reported in the media?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:11 pmGosh what a weird bunch these pukes. Represed sexually but love war as long as they do not have to go.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:11 pm… because MSM was not gonna say a peep until October next year…
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 6:47 pm
Can I get a link to this please?
Comment by Egreggious — August 27, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
No -- since I'm commenting on the ABSENCE of news on such a hot topic, am I not.
Put more simply, it's too much of a stretch to believe that CNN, ABC, AP and the rest just did not hear about a juicy story that played out in a public courtroom. They must have sat on it.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:11 pmUPDATE: Larry Craig called Bill Clinton “a bad boy, a naughty boy†in 1999.
"i want it and i need it and i gotta gotta have it" - craig
August 27th, 2007 at 7:11 pm...
Sounds like this guy is the epitome of "sick"! Lewd behavior in an airport bathroom...ewwwwwwww! Has he no shame? Has he no sense of hypocrisy? Certainly he's so demented that he no longer can serve the people of the good state of Idaho with his bible-thumping, christofascist version of hypocrisy, that's for sure.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:13 pmGrand Old Perverts.
I suggest they nominate Caligula for 2008. He's got their family values.
-GSD
P.S. Chimpy's trail of death continues.
NM police officer dies in Bush motorcade.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:13 pmAnother Repuke Piglican bites the dust! There won't be many left once the people find out the truth on all of these hypocrites.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:13 pmI wonder if Senator Craig is also into diapers.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:14 pmThe site owners have already said that we are free to call you fu*king idiots if we want. The fu*k filter is to keep us from saying other things besides fu*k. Also, there is no moderator. It is a software FITLER.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:14 pmMr. Pus finally shows up and immediately discredits itself. What a surprise.
NEXT ALIASS PLEASE!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 7:16 pmClinton The Rapist.
Got a LINK to a guilty verdict?
Or is innocent until the guilty pleads out forgotten now a days?
Oh I forgot only the reichwing gets to make UNSUBSTANTIATED and unproven accusations even when one of their own PLEADS GUILTY.
Silly me.
Comment by clif — August 27, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
Oh, right. Silly ME. Fine. Not proven guilty. Just like OJ.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:16 pmPut more simply, it’s too much of a stretch to believe that CNN, ABC, AP and the rest just did not hear about a juicy story that played out in a public courtroom. They must have sat on it.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
#
And they still are. Although a few MSM outlets are reporting it now, I've had to dig to find it.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:17 pmThe more sanctimonious, self-aggrandizing and pontifacatory they are seems to be indicative of that old disease: "you spot it, you got it" around the Republican side of Congress these days. Let's take a harder look - no doubt there are many more perverts, whoremongers, and frauds under every GOP rock where they're hiding - either that or they're quitting before their term expires. We know a few of them right now, don't we?? Time will tell their stories....time will show us how they'll be sitting in prison jumpsuits along with Craig.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:17 pmThey must have sat on it.
Comment by trillium
You know they did.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:17 pmArrest and court records are public and most local papers publish arrest records at least weekly.
Someone hushed it up.
Either it wasn't published in a timely manner or the record of arrest wasn't released normally.
Fu*k this guy. he has been an anti-gay homosexual for way too long. We don't care if he is gay. We do care that he personally has been repsonsible for gays being targets of abuse.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:17 pmFree like O.J. all day!!!
Swifty!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 7:17 pmThis is just Satan hard at work this afternoon trying to distract us all from the glorious news that Michael Vick acknowledged today that he has found Jesus.
Praise the Lord!
enombre
August 27th, 2007 at 7:17 pmThe stuff Craig said about our God, Bill Bubba Clinton, almost sounds wistful.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:18 pmSo, will he continue to stay on in the Senate?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:18 pmI bet Ashcroft wonders what Craig was thinking as they sang into the same microphone during their singing days......and has used up three bottles of mouthwash by now......
August 27th, 2007 at 7:18 pmComment by Swifty the Boat — August 27, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
You discredited yourself you little Pus spot.
NEXT ALIASS PLEASE!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 7:20 pmNot sure where r gets the “sanctimonious†from.
Comment by Egreggious — August 27, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
remember, r is the "sensitive" trooll... poor dear...
August 27th, 2007 at 7:20 pmmany issues...
...
Grand Old Perverts it is! GOP! Nothing too grand about them unless you are using the adjective to describe their level of perversity.....or their horrendously tired, old brain-farted codgers that they are.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:20 pmI'm especially suspicious of these kinds of voting records, not an ounce of individual thought, all in complete lock step. Like my buddy Jon Kyl down here in AZ. Ol' Jon was investigated for camping trips with young people, but he was cleared of any whoring, I mean wrongdoing.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:20 pmFauxNews hadn't reported on this story either apparently.
It's a librul media conspiracy, I tell you!
August 27th, 2007 at 7:21 pmThis pervert needs to leave Congress without passing "go" and head straight to handcuffs.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:21 pmMemo: To Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi
Re: Republican colleagues' offices
Dear Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid:
I urge you to add large walk in closets for all your colleagues on the other side of the aisle to make them more comfortable in their apparently long standing minority role.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:21 pm...just keep chanting "Clinton...Clinton...Clinton" Heck, put a bull horn on your car and drive around your hood, "Clinton...Clinton...Clinton." That's it! Nobody hears the negative crap anymore..."Clinton...Clinton...Clinton"
August 27th, 2007 at 7:22 pmThis guy is like an aerobic cell being anti-oxygen.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:22 pmShouldn’t you homos be progressive and embrace this guy? Because right about now Republicans aren’t crazy about him.
Comment by trillium
He persecuted a section of the US population for something he does in secret.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:23 pmHe made his own bed, or stall rather.
Let him sleep in it now.
Fscking Hypocrite.
Larry Johnson at No Quarter asked the question last week:
Are Republicans c*cksuckers?
Now more than ever, this is an important question.
-GSD
August 27th, 2007 at 7:23 pmEither it wasn’t published in a timely manner or the record of arrest wasn’t released normally.
Comment by Wayne — August 27, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
Right, and Roll Call scooped CNN and the rest. I don't think so. Roll Call, like Drudge, wanted to get it out as soon as they found out.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:24 pmI hate when guys sleep in stalls.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:24 pmSenator Craig, the LAWMAKER, says, in hindsight (haha) he should have gotten counsel.
GEE, ya think? And I guess you pulled that guilty plea out of your a$$ (haha) because you weren't guilty?
Really, he needs to shut up and go trout fishing or something. He's just making it worse.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:24 pmIt looks like Senator Craig has been smoking bone for more than a quarter century:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RntWGPEjoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZXaaFbo6Oo
August 27th, 2007 at 7:24 pmClinton took advantage of young women and interns.
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 27, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
That doesn't make you a rapist, you f*cking moron.
Please provide a link to any Judgment of Conviction of Bill Clinton as a rapist. Make sure the court stamp and Judge's signature are included.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:24 pmLeave Larry Craig alone! Just because he wanted to give a blumpkin or get a Cleveland Steamer it doesn't make him a bad Repudlickin.
-GSD
August 27th, 2007 at 7:25 pmWhy don't I know what blumpkins and Cleveland Steamers are?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:27 pmMust be a lot of toe tapping sounds in the restrooms on the Republican side of the aisle in the Capitol building.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:27 pmA republican troll answering the door...
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/Republican%20Cocksucker.bmp
August 27th, 2007 at 7:28 pmThat's not all folks:
"Disgraced minister Ted Haggard is asking that donations to support him and his family be sent to a Monument group run by a twice-convicted sex offender."
GOP: The sex offender party.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:29 pmlibs libs libs libs
August 27th, 2007 at 7:30 pmComment by clif — August 27, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
Bookmarked for reference on future TP threads.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:30 pmFauxNews hadn’t reported on this story either apparently.
It’s a librul media conspiracy, I tell you!
Comment by Egreggious — August 27, 2007 @ 7:21 pm
It's a little more believable to say one news outlet did't hear this (Fox), than to say NO news outlet did.
Who knows why Fox didn't put it out. Maybe they didn't hear; maybe they have one agenda or another. They're only one outlet though. But no one ELSE? Hard to believe that just happens.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:32 pmComment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
Both MSNBC and CNN HAS reported on this today so what is your Bitch son?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:34 pmSenator Craig knew about this story. Has he issued a press release? Did he keep it a secret from his Republican colleagues? None of them have publicly mentioned it. Why the secrecy?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:36 pmComment by clif — August 27, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
Those red pumps are to die for. :D
August 27th, 2007 at 7:36 pmBoth MSNBC and CNN HAS reported on this today so what is your Bitch son?
Comment by clif — August 27, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
Yeah, AFTER it came out. Yo, I'm saying they sat on it to f*ck us up next year, bitch.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:37 pmThose red pumps are to die for. :D
Comment by Zooey — August 27, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
It looks like some critter is dying for them.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:38 pmYo, I’m saying they sat on it to f*ck us up next year, bitch.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 7:37 pm
If you didn't want to be f*cked up by it, you should have come out with the news yourselves.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:39 pmIt looks like some critter is dying for them.
Comment by Egreggious — August 27, 2007 @ 7:38 pm
Well, I was pretending not to notice....
Heh.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:41 pmIn other words by trillium's logic larry craig wanted to keep his little "public record secret" until right before the election...right dufus?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:42 pmYo, I’m saying they sat on it to f*ck us up next year, bitch.
Comment by trillium
Excuse me?
That was in no way necessary.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:43 pmNot a gentleman at all.
In other words by trillium’s logic larry craig wanted to keep his little “public record secret†until right before the election…right dufus?
Comment by clif — August 27, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
To be fair, I expect trillium though Craig wanted to keep his "public record" secret beyond the upcoming election.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:44 pmBecause larry craig was definitely sitting on this one since June, and before if you believe the stories which have been printed before about his actions....
August 27th, 2007 at 7:44 pmThe stories the liberal press failed to follow up on election cycle after election cycle from 1982 at least if the U tube videos are correct.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:46 pmHowever the liberal press were going to "out" him 28 years after he comes to washington?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:46 pmtrillium,
It's been ten minutes since your last post. I miss you.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:47 pmIf you didn’t want to be f*cked up by it, you should have come out with the news yourselves.
Comment by Egreggious — August 27, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
Hallelujah. Almost as good as if Craig wouldn't have done the bone dance with Mr. Sphincter while talking the other way. Allegedly.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:50 pmCraig just resigned from his Idaho chairmanship of the Romney campaign.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:51 pmclif,
Those were nightly newscasts. I believe their validity.
I'm still stifling a comment re: your post #259.
;P
August 27th, 2007 at 7:51 pmAllegedly.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
Too bad Craig plead GUILTY eh son?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:51 pmComment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
That hanging curve ball was on purpose...
he he he
August 27th, 2007 at 7:53 pmNot suprised TP never mentioned this
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/08/20/324363.aspx
August 27th, 2007 at 7:53 pmThat was a good one, clif.
:)
August 27th, 2007 at 7:53 pmCraig just resigned from his Idaho chairmanship of the Romney campaign.
Comment by Marie — August 27, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
romney campaign... imagine that...
August 27th, 2007 at 7:54 pm...
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August 27th, 2007 at 7:54 pmNice dodge Tracy defend a hypocritacal re-pubic-an d!ck sucker with a non sensational story....
August 27th, 2007 at 7:55 pmIn other words by trillium’s logic larry craig wanted to keep his little “public record secret†until right before the election…right dufus?
Comment by clif — August 27, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
I'm sure Craig wanted to keep it secret until right after the election. DEMS would have loved to keep it secret until right before. The Foley Gambit.
I am glad it came up now.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:55 pmSenator Larry Craig (R-eacharound)
August 27th, 2007 at 7:55 pmI am glad it came up now.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
More mens room fantasies?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:55 pmI think that it is reasonable to assume that one who is guilty of nothing would admit nothing.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:56 pmAnother GOP bathroom stall scandal...P.r.i.c.e.l.e.s.s.!
August 27th, 2007 at 7:56 pmWhat is it with these queers that they think they have to hide behind being conservative or religious? Do they know that their disgusting choice of life style is an abomination and feel the need to hide it? Out them all and treat them like the filthy perverts that they are.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:57 pm....so to speak.....
August 27th, 2007 at 7:57 pmComment by pete — August 27, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
Unless good ole Larry thinks he needs more street-cred in the re-pubic--an party of pervert protection and criminally organized corruption.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:57 pmAs a gay man tjis news makes me both happy and sad. Happy that another anti-gay hypocrite is getting a taste of his own medicine. And sad because people's view of gay men is going to be tarnished by creeps like him and Mark Foley.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:58 pmI’m sure Craig wanted to keep it secret until right after the election.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
What a jerk!
August 27th, 2007 at 7:58 pmzooey is hot did i ever tell you guys that?
August 27th, 2007 at 7:59 pmOut them all and treat them like the filthy perverts that they are.
Comment by Ted — August 27, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
Glad to see the reprogramming has worked, Ted.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:00 pmI think that it is reasonable to assume that one who is guilty of nothing would admit nothing.
Comment by pete — August 27, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
you'd think, but, well, there's that torture thing...
August 27th, 2007 at 8:00 pm...
Allegedly.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
Too bad Craig plead GUILTY eh son?
Comment by clif — August 27, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
Guilty of disorderly conduct. Everybody I saw is still quoting Roll Call for the lewd behavior. I'd like another source before I'm on board. There's still a small chance it's all a big mistake, but I'll be happy to boot the bastard if it's true.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:03 pmTed,
Read a book. Really. Your ignorance is showing.
HappyAndSad,
Not all of us feel that way.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:04 pm:)
... but I’ll be happy to boot the bastard if it’s true.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
Why do you think he's a bastard?
August 27th, 2007 at 8:04 pmComment by trillium
He plead GUILTY, he did not fight the charges.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:05 pmDuh!!
The dude paid more than $500. in fines.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:06 pmCheapskate!
A lot of $20.00 Hummers had he paid a willing hustler.
Not to split hairs or anything, but facts do matter and the fact is that Monica Lewinsky, at the time of their affair, was a 22-year old paid staffer, not an intern. It's still ridiculous, but let's pay at least some attention to the facts.
But, again, it must be asked, what is it about the current conservative movement that attracts so many self-loathing, closeted homosexuals who spit hate and venom at gay people publically while hanging out in sleazy public restrooms trying to pick up guys privately? It's just very, very strange.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:06 pmYo repubie pervert protector..water carrier try this, he was charged with INTERFERENCE WITH PRIVACY, but in the plea deal he made got it reduced to disorderly conduct....
Here's the info from Minnesota's MNCIS case tracker system on Craig:
Register Of ActionsCase No. 27-CR-07-043231State of Minnesota vs LARRY EDWIN CRAIG §
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Case Type: Crim/Traf Mandatory
Date Filed: 07/02/2007
Location: Hennepin Criminal Southdale
Party Information Lead Attorneys
Defendant CRAIG, LARRY EDWIN
1000 WATER ST SW #6
WASHINGTON DC
20025
20025
Jurisdiction State of Minnesota
None
Charge InformationCharges: CRAIG, LARRY EDWIN Statute Level Date
1. INTERFERENCE WITH PRIVACY 609.746 Gross Misdemeanor 06/11/2007
2. Disorderly Conduct 609.72.1 Misdemeanor 06/11/2007
Events & Orders of the Court DISPOSITIONS
08/08/2007 Plea (Judicial Officer: Larson, Gary R.)
1. INTERFERENCE WITH PRIVACY
None
2. Disorderly Conduct
Guilty
08/08/2007 Disposition (Judicial Officer: Larson, Gary R.)
1. INTERFERENCE WITH PRIVACY
Dismissed
2. Disorderly Conduct
Convicted
08/08/2007 Continued (Judicial Officer: Larson, Gary R.)
2. Disorderly Conduct
Condition - Adult:
1. No same or similar (08/08/2007) Active 08/08/2007
2. Conditions, other (08/08/2007) Active 08/08/2007
Fees - Adult: (Grand Total: $575.00)
Due 08/08/2007
Fine: $1,000.00
Fees: (Fees Total: $75.00)
Criminal Surcharge: $72.00
Law Library: $3.00
Stay of $500.00 for 1 Yr
Local Confinement:
Agency: Hennepin County Workhouse - Adult Corrections
Term: 10 Days
Time To Serve: None
Stay 10 Days For 1 Yr
Status: Active 08/08/2007
Probation - Adult:
Type: Unsupervised probation
Agency: Hennepin District Court
Term of 1 Yr
08/08/2007 - 08/08/2008
Status: Active 08/08/2007
OTHER EVENTS AND HEARINGS
07/02/2007 Complaint Summons
SENT 07/03/2007
07/02/2007 Converted SIP Activity
ALL CT: COMPLAINT FILED
07/25/2007 First Appearance (9:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Brandt, Gina M.)
ASSIGNMENT: SOUTHDALE A S227
07/25/2007 Reset by Court to 07/25/2007
Result: Held
08/08/2007 First Appearance (9:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Larson, Gary R.) Result: Held
08/08/2007 Petition to Enter Guilty Plea
08/09/2007 Criminal History Disposition has been processed
Financial Information Defendant CRAIG, LARRY EDWIN
Total Financial Assessment 575.00
Total Payments and Credits 575.00
Balance Due as of 08/27/2007 0.00
08/09/2007 Transaction Assessment 575.00
August 27th, 2007 at 8:08 pm08/10/2007 Counter Payment Receipt # SD27-2007-0690 CRAIG, LARRY EDWIN (575.00)
Another GOP bathroom stall scandal…P.r.i.c.e.l.e.s.s.!
Comment by Tomike — August 27, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
Another GOP bathroom stall scandal: disgusting. Having it blow up in libs claws waaay before November 2008? Priceless.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:09 pmBut, again, it must be asked, what is it about the current conservative movement that attracts so many self-loathing, closeted homosexuals who spit hate and venom at gay people publically while hanging out in sleazy public restrooms trying to pick up guys privately? It’s just very, very strange.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 27, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
I think it's the "closet" part that explains it. If you are ashamed of your homosexuality and you wish to hide it, you do things that are not stereotypically gay. You drive a big truck, you talk tough, and you affiliate yourself with the party of "family values". This is how a closeted individual attempts to stay in the closet.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:10 pmHe plead GUILTY, he did not fight the charges.
Duh!!
Comment by Wayne — August 27, 2007 @ 8:05 pm
A Hennepin County court docket showed Craig pleading guilty to the disorderly conduct charge Aug. 8, with the court dismissing a charge of gross misdemeanor interference to privacy.
(http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/27/politics/main3210196.shtml)
The attempted bone dance with Mr. Sphincter is not on the list. CBS quotes Roll Call for that.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:12 pmYo son, it didn't"blow up in anybody's face to the disappointment of larry, but it will be remembered in a little over a year....
August 27th, 2007 at 8:12 pmWhy are you so full of hate, trillium?
August 27th, 2007 at 8:13 pm#
Why are you so full of hate, trillium?
Comment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
It's that reichwing repression thingy at work.....
August 27th, 2007 at 8:14 pmHaving it blow up in libs claws waaay before November 2008? Priceless.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 8:09 pm
It would have been cooler if it this news had hit right before the election. It would have been fun to see a Dem win Idaho.
But I'll take the repercussions of the current timing as well. The further undermining of the "family values" crowd is always welcome.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:14 pmAnother GOP bathroom stall scandal: disgusting. Having it blow up in libs claws waaay before November 2008? Priceless.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 8:09 pm
yeah, but they never end, these GOPervert scandals. there will be another dozen of so before the elections. Keep the homo fires burning!
August 27th, 2007 at 8:15 pmYou mean foot tapping is a sign of perversion , good gawd I went to a concert and the stage was FULL of perverts .
August 27th, 2007 at 8:17 pmWhat did Demint from South Carolina say, it could happen to any of them?
Does he want to reveal something?
August 27th, 2007 at 8:17 pmCall me old fashioned but...
I think that initiating ANY contact with a person in a bathroom stall is perverted.
Also, the way "plea bargains" work is; one admits to a lesser, or less embarrassing, charge in return for saving trouble for the prosecution. I find it incomprehensible that a public official would enter a plea bargain if the original charge were without merit.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:19 pmWouldn't it be fun to hear Larry's explanation to... Mrs Craig?
That would be priceless.........
August 27th, 2007 at 8:19 pmOnly a sick and perverted GOP troll could think that having a member of their party convicted of lewd conduct in a restroom is "priceless" because it happened far enough before an election.
Talk about a pack of moral degenerates.
-GSD
August 27th, 2007 at 8:19 pmtrillium...
August 27th, 2007 at 8:20 pmhttp://news.google.com/?ncl=1120013493&hl=en&topic=h
...
The further undermining of the “family values†crowd is always welcome.
Comment by Egreggious — August 27, 2007 @ 8:14 pm
I've always known that 'undermining of the “family values†crowd is always welcome' by libs. There's almost nothing we differ on more than that.
Glad to hear someone admit it though.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:20 pmWhat this really shows is that if a person has reached tle level of depravity where he could engage in homosexual activities, he will have no compunctions about lying about it when convenient for him to do so. So, a sodomite also turns out to be a liar -- is that anything to be surprised about? Telling lies is stock in trade for sodomites.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:21 pmAnswer, please, Trillium.
Why are you so full of hate?
August 27th, 2007 at 8:21 pmAnger is always concerned with individuals,...whereas hatred is directed also against classes:We all hate any thief and any informer.
Morover, anger can be cured by time; but hatred cannot. The one aims at giving pain to its object, the other at doing him harm; the angry man wants his victim to feel; the hater does not mind whether they feel or not.
--- Aristotle, Rhetoric
August 27th, 2007 at 8:22 pmHey trillium, these things happen on about a monthly basis these days. Your party is so filled with perverts that I'm sure there will be a few boners pulled in the months before the next election. But, even if republicans magically become good citizens, there is nothing that will stop supermajorities for Dems in both houses and a Dem president in 2008. Repubs are retiring all over the place. They can see the writing on the wall. Your movement is OVER! Have a frickin nice day, a-hole!
August 27th, 2007 at 8:22 pmBill Clinton is “a bad boy, a naughty boy†- Larry Craig
Larry, time to take your foot out of your mouth.
Ooops, sorry, I guess that's not a foot in there....
August 27th, 2007 at 8:23 pmThat's a mighty wide stance you've got there, you naughty bad boy.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:24 pmGlad to hear someone admit it though.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 8:20 pm
Absolutely. And you will notice that I put "family values" in quotes, because, of course, the "family values" crowd is not really about family values at all. They are about hate; the ostracism of family members who happen to be gay and the resulting higher suicide rate amongst the gay population; and the denial of the right of gay couples to share in the benefits of family status.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:25 pmKinda late to the party...don't know if anyone has already posted this, but I always like to drop this link whenever 'Republicans' and 'moral values' are used in the same sentence:
August 27th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
I'm an Independent conservative who left the GOP precisely because of phony, pompous "conservatives" like RINO Larry Craig! When one is caught with his pants down, literally, and caught in the act of not practicing what he preaches, he's a goner, peroid. Radio egotist Michael Savage is currently using his show today to defend Craig, saying [Savage] thinks it's a left-wing set-up as it happened in a Minnesota airport. Savage may be being toungue-in-cheek when he says this, but he postulates that Craig was simply tapping his feet to Beethoven or some Swing or Jazz tune and accidentally...Yeh, right!
By the way, I had no idea that psychotic Lindsay Graham is gay! What a lyin' sack of crap!
It's high time conservative anti-Invasion county commissioner Robert Vasquez ran for Craig's seat...He would have my vote...
August 27th, 2007 at 8:26 pmWhat this really shows is that if a person has reached tle level of depravity where he could engage in homosexual activities, he will have no compunctions about lying about it when convenient for him to do so. So, a sodomite also turns out to be a liar — is that anything to be surprised about? Telling lies is stock in trade for sodomites.
Comment by Christopher Witmer — August 27, 2007 @ 8:21 pm
nice try, guy... tap tap tap. why do you lie?
August 27th, 2007 at 8:27 pmHey trueblue. I think I can answer.
Trolls hate what they fear. They fear what they can't understand. All they understand is Bush and Jesus. Bush and Jesus are full of lies.
It must suck to be a troll.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:28 pmGOP Fla. Congressgurl ALLEN,Fla. claiming his Miranda Rights Vilolated, some evidence was tossed today...Now his hired liars"Lawyers" are claiming the cop propositioned him....Case continued....but he's not off the hooker yet!
August 27th, 2007 at 8:28 pmThe same cop gave me a speeding ticket.....he's as str8t as an arrow. 6-10 mph over .I paid it.
I’ve always known that ‘undermining of the “family values†crowd is always welcome’ by libs. There’s almost nothing we differ on more than that.
Glad to hear someone admit it though.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 8:20 pm
Of course, it's not we libs doing the "undermining", but the very hypocrites whose lies are bought hook, line and sinker by the thoughtless tools of the right. If libs were listened to, these scandals wouldn't exist, because they wouldn't be necessary. It's just amazing that republicans can continue to talk out of both sides of their 2 faces about private, personal behavior that should affect nobody. You rightards really need to spedd up your evolutionary process and catch up to the human race.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:29 pmOkay, how long before Fauxxxx News labels Craig as the "Democrat Senator from Idaho."
August 27th, 2007 at 8:29 pmOnly a sick and perverted GOP troll could think that having a member of their party convicted of lewd conduct in a restroom is “priceless†because it happened far enough before an election.
Talk about a pack of moral degenerates.
-GSD
Blaming the group for the action of an individual is imoral. Making political points against the group by timing a news release is imoral. Covering up for your messed-up buddy is imoral. (Dems and Clinton. Clinton and Marc Rich. Etc.) Being glad that a pervert and a hypocrit got what was coming to him is not imoral.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:29 pm"I’ve always known that ‘undermining of the “family values†crowd is always welcome’ by libs. There’s almost nothing we differ on more than that." - trillium
True. Libs actually value families for real, while conservofreaks merely use families as a symbol, much as they use the flag.
"Undermining the 'family values' crowd" really means "undermining hypocrites". It does not mean "undermining families" or "undermining family values".
Anyone but a hypocrite would understand that.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:30 pmWhat this really shows is that if a person has reached tle level of depravity where he could engage in homosexual activities, he will have no compunctions about lying about it when convenient for him to do so. So, a sodomite also turns out to be a liar — is that anything to be surprised about? Telling lies is stock in trade for sodomites.
Comment by Christopher Witmer — August 27, 2007 @ 8:21 pm
And of course you have it completely backwards.
A society that values its members, regardless of sexual orientation, produces individuals with healthy and productive means of expressing themselves. The shattering of self esteem, the lack of inclusiveness, is what contributes to the anti-social behavior of some.
I have a wide circle of gay friends whose sexual activities I am familiar with. Through the support of friends and family, almost all of them have risen above the humiliation heaped on them by bigotry and religion, and do not engage in behaviors which are illegal.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:31 pmYO!
Trillium - Twice I've posted specifically to you.
Even quoted Aristotle. You have no response?
Meaningful response, I should add.?
Wow. You have nothing.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:33 pmI’m an Independent conservative who left the GOP precisely because of phony, pompous “conservatives†like RINO Larry Craig!
Comment by levotb — August 27, 2007 @ 8:26 pm
Larry Craig is a phony and pompous.
He's a conservative and a Republican through and through.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:34 pmHe is NOT a RINO.
Does anyone else find it odd that this story broke the same day Gonzo announced his "resignation".
August 27th, 2007 at 8:34 pm"What this really shows is that if a person has reached tle level of depravity where he could engage in homosexual activities, he will have no compunctions about lying about it when convenient for him to do so. So, a sodomite also turns out to be a liar — is that anything to be surprised about? Telling lies is stock in trade for sodomites." - Christopher Witmer
Is it dark in your closet, Chris?
August 27th, 2007 at 8:35 pmBlaming the group for the action of an individual is imoral. Making political points against the group by timing a news release is imoral. Covering up for your messed-up buddy is imoral. (Dems and Clinton. Clinton and Marc Rich. Etc.) Being glad that a pervert and a hypocrit got what was coming to him is not imoral.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
Sorry, if the group is immoral, and it's very hard to argue that the GOP isn't thoroughly immoral, then each member has to assume his responsibility. The GOP is full of perverts such as Craig, and more will be exposed as we head towards the elections, because perverts can't help themselves, no matter what's at stake. Clinton was sandbagged by Republican operatives, plain and simple. Linda Tripp and Monica Lewinsky were on the RATwing payroll, and the GOP spent $70 million taxpayer dollars, to come up with a consensual blowjob between two adults. There is NO comparison, and bringing up Marc Rich just raises the question of his lawyer, Scooter Libby, who begged Clinton for the pardon; begged. This is the GOP hypocrisy at work, night and day, so save it for somebody as clueless as you are. Take it to Redsate, they're pretty f*cking stupid over there.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:37 pmSo, a sodomite also turns out to be a liar — is that anything to be surprised about? Telling lies is stock in trade for sodomites.
Comment by Christopher Witmer — August 27, 2007 @ 8:21 pm
I didn't know the entire Bush administration were sodomites.
Now I understand all the lies....
Thanks, Christopher!
August 27th, 2007 at 8:38 pmFlush the bastard.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:39 pmEgreggious,
Thank you for your post.
It's great that they have support.
Imagine if we all loved each other for who they were.
What a wonderful world it would be.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:39 pmI didn’t know the entire Bush administration were sodomites.
Now I understand all the lies….
Thanks, Christopher!
Comment by Zooey — August 27, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
You must be kidding. You really didn't know?
August 27th, 2007 at 8:39 pmtrillium sez:
Not just 'an individual', trillium, but numerous 'individuals', as you would have seen, had you clicked on the link in my earlier post.
You mean like this administration timing their 'terror alerts' to maximize political advantage?
"Clinton Did It" (â„¢)? PLEASE.
Nice try, jackass, but that was not what prompted the exclamation "priceless" from you. Your exclamation of "priceless" referred specifically to the timing of this incident, relative to the 2008 elections. Nice try, but you lose.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:40 pmtrillium has no ancient greek quote to oppose me.
Thus his hiding.
I almost feel sorry for him.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:41 pmOf course, it’s not we libs doing the “underminingâ€, but the very hypocrites whose lies are bought hook, line and sinker by the thoughtless tools of the right.
Comment by ronjazz — August 27, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
Sure it's the libs.
We COULD agree that Craig is a hypocrite pervert, and that he is NOT representative of GOP in general. We COULD agree that Gay Pride Parade in lederhosen is not exactly stuff between consenting adults behind closed doors. We COULD agree that gay sex is disgusting to straights, yet homosexual attraction is -- occasionally -- a genuine and unalterable disorder. We COULD agree that Clinton is a piece of scum who disapointed you and confirmed our worst fears. We could agree that MSM is biased and public education a joke.
But no. Libs would rather see everything go to hell in a puff of smoke from joints given away free by the government.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:41 pm"I didn’t know the entire Bush administration were sodomites." - Zooey
Apparently you haven't been paying attention to the news for the past, oh, six years. Jeff Gannon's butt buddies are dropping like flies.
Or opening their flies.
Or sumpin, I dunno.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:42 pmComment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 8:41 pm
Next troll, please. This one is vapor-locked.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:44 pm"We COULD agree that Craig is a hypocrite pervert, and that he is NOT representative of GOP in general." - trillium
We COULD agree Craig is a hypcrite....
you should have stopped there. The rest of your post is about as compelling as Craig's crusty underwear.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:45 pmSure it’s the libs.
We COULD agree that Craig is a hypocrite pervert, and that he is NOT representative of GOP in general. We COULD agree that Gay Pride Parade in lederhosen is not exactly stuff between consenting adults behind closed doors. We COULD agree that gay sex is disgusting to straights, yet homosexual attraction is — occasionally — a genuine and unalterable disorder. We COULD agree that Clinton is a piece of scum who disapointed you and confirmed our worst fears. We could agree that MSM is biased and public education a joke.
But no. Libs would rather see everything go to hell in a puff of smoke from joints given away free by the government.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 8:41 pm
Anger is always concerned with individuals,…whereas hatred is directed also against classes:We all hate any thief and any informer.
Morover, anger can be cured by time; but hatred cannot. The one aims at giving pain to its object, the other at doing him harm; the angry man wants his victim to feel; the hater does not mind whether they feel or not.
— Aristotle, Rhetoric
Comment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
comment?
August 27th, 2007 at 8:45 pmBeing glad that a pervert and a hypocrit got what was coming to him is not imoral.
Nice try, jackass, but that was not what prompted the exclamation “priceless†from you. Your exclamation of “priceless†referred specifically to the timing of this incident, relative to the 2008 elections. Nice try, but you lose.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 27, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
I don't get what's imoral about it. Should I be sad that libs can't delay the news until just before elections, like they did with Mark Foley?
August 27th, 2007 at 8:46 pm#272
Comment by clif — August 27, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
Who said I was defending him? I was just pointing out more TP hypocrisy.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:46 pmComment by ronjazz — August 27, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
Comment by gorn by any other name — August 27, 2007 @ 8:42 pm
I don't think any of us really knows anything for sure about why Gannon was there.
Frankly, I'd rather have the Insane Bush Posse gone because they've trashed our country and the Constitution -- not because of a little slap & tickle.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:46 pmThe "Log cabin" MUST be filling up!
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/08/log-cabin-fills-up-as-idaho-u-s.html#links
August 27th, 2007 at 8:47 pmWe COULD agree that Craig is a hypocrite pervert, and that he is NOT representative of GOP in general. We COULD agree that Gay Pride Parade in lederhosen is not exactly stuff between consenting adults behind closed doors. We COULD agree that gay sex is disgusting to straights, yet homosexual attraction is — occasionally — a genuine and unalterable disorder. We COULD agree that Clinton is a piece of scum who disapointed you and confirmed our worst fears. We could agree that MSM is biased and public education a joke.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 8:41 pm
we could agree on most of that... if I was as f@cked in the head as
you seem to be. So we wont.
a genuine and unalterable disorder...
was that a joke? keep postin' ... the jokes just write themselves -
August 27th, 2007 at 8:48 pmwith a lot of help from you.
#272
Comment by clif — August 27, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
Oh, so it has to be exciting and sensational. Not that a congressman assaulting a TSA offical is the same.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:49 pmnot because of a little slap & tickle.
Comment by Zooey — August 27, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
Clinton lover.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:49 pmI gotta GO Pee ! in private. PLease. Whodathunkit!
August 27th, 2007 at 8:49 pmTp
I love threads like this cause I get to bring up “Clinton did it too†again and again. thanks
Libs worship Clinton as a god here.
Comment by Bob — August 27, 2007 @ 6:21 pm
Bob, you are hardly the first troll to bring up the "Clinton did it, too" line, and unfortunately you probably won't be the last, either. It seems that is only line of "defense" you Kool Aid drinking trolls can think of. So I will ask you what I have already asked several times of one of TP's most persistent reminders of Clinton's BJ, Tracy-troll, to explain what male hooker/phony journalist Jeff Gannon/James Guckert was doing in the White House all those nights when press conferences weren't even scheduled. Or does only male-female oral sex bother you?
August 27th, 2007 at 8:50 pmBTW, I don't worship Clinton or any other human being as a god.
comment?
Comment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
You know nothing about Aristotle.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:51 pm"Frankly, I’d rather have the Insane Bush Posse gone because they’ve trashed our country and the Constitution — not because of a little slap & tickle." - Zooey
Either reason, or any of a hundred others, would make me equally pleased.
BTW, it goes without saying I don't care who slaps and tickles whom. It's the sanctimonious hypocrisy that flips my stomach.
So, I'm calling for the first annual TP Slap and Tickle Convention. Who wants to join?
Sorry, trolls not welcome.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:51 pmwhy switch names again, trilly/swifty?
can't answer a question posed to you?
Coward.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:51 pmComment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
I've been
Swifty!!!
since last night.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:52 pm“We COULD agree that Craig is a hypocrite pervert, and that he is NOT representative of GOP in general.†- trillium
We COULD agree Craig is a hypcrite….
you should have stopped there. The rest of your post is about as compelling as Craig’s crusty underwear.
Comment by gorn by any other name — August 27, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
Oh, what a surprise.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:53 pmBut does Craig smell like Aqua Velva?
August 27th, 2007 at 8:54 pmI’ve been
Swifty!!!
since last night.
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 27, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
You'll always be Mr Pee around here.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:55 pm"Libs worship Clinton as a god here." - Comment by Bob
Clinton is a human, as "libs" all recognized. It's you looney crazies on the right who confuse their president with Jesus.
BTW, I never voted for Clinton. Instead of attacking your strawman, why not do the honorable thing and distance yourself from the excrement running the White House.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:55 pmKazooey,
Don't you have homework??
You better hit the books!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 8:56 pmSo, I’m calling for the first annual TP Slap and Tickle Convention. Who wants to join?
Comment by gorn by any other name — August 27, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
Sounds even better than a cesspool party!
August 27th, 2007 at 8:56 pmRe: Comment #9 --
I'm sure the trolls are already lined up to "stand behind" Craig -- the line leading straight into the men's shower room.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:56 pmDon't tell her what to do, jerkoff!
And I don't buy the swifty since last night crap, since trillium showed up the moment you left today.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:58 pmComment by Swifty the Boat — August 27, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
DISCREDITED! NEXT ALIASS PLEASE!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 8:58 pmNot suprised TP never mentioned this
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/ archive/ 2007/ 08/ 20/ 324363.aspx
Comment by Tracy — August 27, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
But I did see that story on the liberal Huffington Post, which often cross-references to TP.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:58 pmAnd how many stories has RedState run on Jeff Gannon, the State Senator arrested for a similar bathroom incident in Florida, etc.?
And I don’t buy the swifty since last night crap, since trillium showed up the moment you left today.
Comment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
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oh.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:58 pmSwifty,
Shouldn't you be over at NewsHounds? We libtards here aren't really worthy of you.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:59 pmtrillium sez:
Of course you don't. It's obvious you're incapable of making moral judgments. Not surprising that you're also unable to spell 'immoral'.
Rejoicing that the incident happened long before the 2008 elections = immoral.
Subsequently portraying your elation as a result of the Senator's arrest, rather than the timing of the arrest, = immoral.
Get it now? (probably not, but that's OK....we really don't expect you to...)
August 27th, 2007 at 8:59 pma genuine and unalterable disorder…
was that a joke? keep postin’ … the jokes just write themselves -
with a lot of help from you.
Comment by alp3 — August 27, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
It's no joke mon! These genuine homos have a real problem. They sure aren't happy about it, at least not those I've spent time with, colleagues and such. Those who do the bone dance with Mr. Sphincter just to spice things up, those are the nasty ones.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:00 pmStill won't answer, creep Pee-brain.
Go on, dazzle me with a counter quote.
That or drop your holier than thou crap.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:00 pmDon’t you have homework??
You better hit the books!!!
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 27, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
Ya think?
Well, I just put a blog post up on the Soc site, and I'm writing a paper for English.
I think I'll manage.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:01 pmIt's too bad that Idaho is still so heavily populated by Mormons that they will probably put yet another Republican in his place. I grew up Mormon, and I can tell you that they live with ultra-conservative blinders on.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:01 pmRejoicing that the incident happened long before the 2008 elections = immoral.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 27, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
Not that it happened long before, but that it wasn't put away for later use.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:02 pmNot suprised TP never mentioned this
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/08/20/324363.aspx
Comment by Tracy — August 27, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
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Even RALPH!!! covered this one!!!
DEMLIB VIOLENCE ERUPTS AT AIRPORT!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 9:02 pmThat or drop your holier than thou crap.
Comment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
Correction: Assholierthanthou crap
August 27th, 2007 at 9:03 pmOK, yet another:
Whoever thinks that he alone has speech, or possesses speech or mind above others, when unfolded such men are seen to be empty.
--Sophocles, Antigone
August 27th, 2007 at 9:03 pmStill won’t answer, creep Pee-brain.
Go on, dazzle me with a counter quote.
That or drop your holier than thou crap.
Comment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
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What do you want, an Aristotle quote that is against gays?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:04 pmStill won’t answer, creep Pee-brain.
Go on, dazzle me with a counter quote.
That or drop your holier than thou crap.
Comment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
WTF?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:04 pmThose who do the bone dance with Mr. Sphincter just to spice things up, those are the nasty ones.
Comment by trillium — August 27, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
Nasty!
August 27th, 2007 at 9:04 pmWhoever thinks that he alone has speech, or possesses speech or mind above others, when unfolded such men are seen to be empty.
–Sophocles, Antigone
Comment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
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That's nice and all, but... umm...
What are you trying to prove exactly?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:05 pmCorrection: Assholierthanthou crap
Comment by Zooey
Thanks, Zooey.
That's much better.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:06 pmWhat are you trying to prove exactly?
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 27, 2007 @ 9:05 pm
Hey! That's my question for trillium!
August 27th, 2007 at 9:06 pmtrillium sez:
That's not what you said in your earlier post, liar.
Here's how you tried to spin your earlier statement:
Again, nice try. Again, you lose.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:06 pmWell, I just put a blog post up on the Soc site, and I’m writing a paper for English.
I think I’ll manage.
Comment by Zooey — August 27, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
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Oh.. Oh... I want to read it!!! What's the URL?!?!?!?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:07 pmLooks like Mr. Pus is in for the night. Now that I know it won't be molesting children, I bid you humans good night.
You too Mr. Pus.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:07 pmMr. Monkey,
Did you see that there was another certified "TripMaster" on TP the other day?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:07 pmFunny that TRILLIUM would answer a post address to PEE BRAIN!
You are so f-ing transparent!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
August 27th, 2007 at 9:07 pmSh*t, look at the time... Man, how it flies when you have a good time!
August 27th, 2007 at 9:08 pmFunny that TRILLIUM would answer a post address to PEE BRAIN!
You are so f-ing transparent!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
Comment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 9:07 pm
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Why is that funny?
And how does that make me transparent?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:09 pmtrillium sez:
That’s not what you said in your earlier post, liar.
Here’s how you tried to spin your earlier statement:
Being glad that a pervert and a hypocrit got what was coming to him is not imoral.
Again, nice try. Again, you lose.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 27, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Ok. I give up. I don't know wtf you're telling me.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:09 pmOh.. Oh… I want to read it!!! What’s the URL?!?!?!?
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 27, 2007 @ 9:07 pm
You bet, Mr Pee.
You get your UI fees paid, and get your access code. Then you can read it.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:10 pmMaybe because you answered that one as "swifty"???
So stupid.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:10 pmI am Swifty!!!
Swifty!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 9:11 pmTB,
If you have a question, ask.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:12 pmtrillium sez:
I give up. Getting you to admit to your own dishonesty is like trying to keep the Repukes' hands off the male pages.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:12 pm"These genuine homos have a real problem. They sure aren’t happy about it, at least not those I’ve spent time with" - trillium
Maybe you need to improve your technique.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:13 pmCraig is the same low-life hypocrite who was outed by gay activist and blogger Mike Rogers.
http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2007/08/sen-larry-craig-r-arrested-for-being.html
August 27th, 2007 at 9:13 pmThat's pathetic,StB.
Why don't YOU answer to my now 3 posts.
That or STFU.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:14 pm"Why is that funny? And how does that make me transparent?" - Comment by Swifty the Boat
And why are you asking so many questions?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:14 pmTB,
What is your question.
I'm not going to read the nearly 400 posts to answer a question you asked someone else!
August 27th, 2007 at 9:15 pmgorn,
because he's avoiding any answers.
coward. coward. coward.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:16 pmAlmost 400 posts and no daryll..Hmmm
August 27th, 2007 at 9:16 pmIs he afraid to come out and claim this hypocrite?
And why are you asking so many questions?
Comment by gorn by any other name — August 27, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
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AHA!!!! Trueblue is busted!!!!
You answered that as "gorn by any other name."
You are so transparent!
August 27th, 2007 at 9:17 pmgorn by any other name sez:
BWAH HA HA HA HA!
gorn, that's priceless! ^_^
August 27th, 2007 at 9:17 pmTB,
What is your libtarded question?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:20 pmAHA!!!! Trueblue is busted!!!!
You answered that as “gorn by any other name.â€
You are so transparent!
Comment by Swifty the Boat —
Ok, that was stupid even by YOUR standards!
Try again.
You don't have to look that far back.
Your hatred issues. The 3 quotes I fed you, with nothing in return.
COWARD. Stop asking me questions in response to my ONE question.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:20 pm"AHA!!!! Trueblue is busted!!!! You answered that as “gorn by any other name.†You are so transparent!" - not so Swifty
Now wait a minute. I thought it was already established that I was TRoS. I'm starting to feel schizo.
And if I'm trueblue, that means I have some gender issues too.
Hmmm. Could be interesting.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:21 pmStop asking me questions in response to my ONE question.
Comment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
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TB,
What is your libtarded question?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:21 pmAlmost 400 posts and no daryll..Hmmm
Is he afraid to come out and claim this hypocrite?
Comment by RUCerious — August 27, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
Daryll is probably on vacation on Fire Island or that resort near Cairns, Australia (can't recall its name right now) for gays.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:23 pmVick, the Dick...
August 27th, 2007 at 9:24 pmFound JesuZ.....
zzz..That's good newz for BAD Newz Kennels.zzz
"Craig- claim's to sit with a wide standz"... whatz nextZ?
Mor manz?
Ringo,
August 27th, 2007 at 9:24 pmI agree with you on all that IF you mean it.
I am also a LIBERAL that has had a license to carry a firearm since I was 21 years old. I am 50.
TB,
What is your libtarded question?
Comment by Swifty the Boat —
Why are you so full of hate?
Comment by trueblue —
You did answer me, that I had no idea about Aristotle, so you DID read the posts.
Yet another lie that you've been caught in.
You really suck at this, did you know that?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:26 pmgorn,
:)
August 27th, 2007 at 9:26 pmguntotingliberal,
I haven't seen you around these parts in ages.
Nice to see you.
:)
August 27th, 2007 at 9:28 pmWhy are you so full of hate?
Comment by trueblue —
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When did you ask me this?
I only responded to a post that had a random quote possibly from Aristotle (As you did not cite the page and line number it is hard to verify).
Anyway, your answer is:
I'm not.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:29 pmyou are such a dick.
this is exactly how repukes operate.
they keep up with nonsense non-ressponses until we give up.
you are no kind of man the greeks would have respected.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:31 pmComment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 9:31 pm
Provide the Bekker numbers, please, so that I may verify your quote.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:33 pmSwifty the Boat sez:
Aristotle's Rhetoric, Book II, Chapter 4.
Hope that helps, dolt.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:33 pmDaryll is probably on vacation on Fire Island or that resort near Cairns, Australia (can’t recall its name right now) for gays.
Comment by Lora
Maybe he's waiting in line for a seat in the men's room in MN? I bet it's crowded these days with neoclosets.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:33 pm*S-NAP*, TMM.
Thanks.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:34 pmComment by TripMaster Monkey — August 27, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
Bekker numbers, please.
I just did a bunch of homework and I don't feel like reading one of Aristotle's minor works.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:35 pmSwifty the Boat sez:
1382a
Is that enough, or will you try to stall a bit longer?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:36 pmThe guy who broke this story at Roll Call appeared on Dan Abrams' show and said that it appeared Craig DID have a lawyer involved in this. He said Craig was arrested in June and only pleaded to the charges on August 8th. Craig requested time, according to the guy from Roll Call, in order to show the charging documents to his lawyer for advice. Craig spent more than one month mulling over how and whether he should plead to the charges or fight it in court. I find it inconceivable that a U.S. Senator would not run this by his lawyer before committing himself to a guilty plea.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:36 pmI also threw Sophocles at him (Antigone) but he hasn't responded to that, either.
And such an expert does not need such verification.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:36 pmFRAUD.
Has Fox Noise 'accidentally' identified Craig as a Democrat, yet?
And can they bring themselves to cover this as vigorously as they did Filner's airport episode? I do hope they can get as many chuckles out of it.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:37 pm1382a
Is that enough, or will you try to stall a bit longer?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 27, 2007 @ 9:36 pm
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No, that's cool. Thanks!
August 27th, 2007 at 9:38 pmNo, he stalls.
Idiot.
Whenever he shows up, let him defend Greek Wisdom, which he violates every day.
Such a pompous fraud.
Thanks, TMM.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:38 pmI appreciate it.
Swifty,
August 27th, 2007 at 9:42 pmAre you a toe tapper?
trueblue sez:
No prob, trueblue. You could almost feel his shock when he realized I knew what Bekker numbers were. I love taking the wind out of the sails of these pseudo-intellectual trolls. ^_^
August 27th, 2007 at 9:43 pmAnyway, your answer is:
I’m not.
Comment by Swifty the Boat — August 27, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
You're full of fear. That's worse.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:43 pmAristotle is generally credited with developing the seminal system of rhetoric that "thereafter served as its touchstone" [1], influencing the development of rhetorical theory from ancient through modern times. The Rhetoric is regarded by most rhetoricians as "the most important single work on persuasion ever written." [2] Gross & Walzer concur, indicating that, just as Whitehead considered all philosophy a footnote to Plato, "all subsequent rhetorical theory is but a series of responses to issues raised" by Aristotle's Rhetoric. [3]
He also thought his assertion that it was a "minor work" couldn't be debunked.
What a "minor" troll.
:D
August 27th, 2007 at 9:45 pmOkay...
Seems pretty straight forward.
What's the question?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:45 pmIf according to Senator Craig, Clinton was a naughty boy...what does this make him?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:45 pmThe dude tried to play the " I'm a Senator Biz Card " saying to the cop "what do you think of that? " ..... He couldn't FIX IT...
August 27th, 2007 at 9:46 pmIt's not the crime, It's the lies and cover-up attempts..
Comment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 9:45 pm
The Rhetoric is one of Aristotle's minor works.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:47 pmGOP - Gay Old Perverts
August 27th, 2007 at 9:48 pmWhenever he shows up, let him defend Greek Wisdom, which he violates every day.
I don't think highly of Aristotle, so you can trash him all day long for all I care.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:51 pmIf according to Senator Craig, Clinton was a naughty boy…what does this make him?
Comment by dlet — August 27, 2007 @ 9:45 pm
In line for a good spanking?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:51 pmSwifty the Boat sez:
Two problems with that statement, Swifty.
One. It's not "The Rhetoric". It's simply "Rhetoric".
Two, as "the most important single work on persuasion ever written" (according to Golden, James L., Goodwin F. Berquist, William E. Coleman, Ruth Golden, & J.Michael Sproule (eds.). (2007). The rhetoric of Western thought: From the Mediterranean world to the global setting, 9th ed. Dubuque, IA (USA): p.67.), Rhetoric is hardly a "minor work".
Other than that, your statement is correct.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:53 pmIt's greek to me, but isn't Greek a Position?
August 27th, 2007 at 9:53 pmI don’t think highly of Aristotle,
Comment by Swifty the Boat
And a deep sigh of relief is heard in an ancient Greek cemetery.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:54 pmRhetoric is hardly a “minor workâ€.
Other than that, your statement is correct.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 27, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
How's this:
Aristotle's Rhetoric is one of Aristotle’s minor works
August 27th, 2007 at 9:54 pmHe'll never debate these statements, will he, TMM?
Such a coward and fraud.
He'll get this thrown in his face each and every time I see him posting.
(I hope you'll be around to help.)
;)
August 27th, 2007 at 9:56 pmAristotle’s Rhetoric is one of Aristotle’s minor works
Comment by Swifty the Boat
After many revisions and help from others, the "expert" is starting to get it right.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:56 pmYour thoughts are very sloppy. You need to work on that.
Comment by dlet — August 27, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
Look at yourself, Sloppy.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:59 pmHe’ll never debate these statements, will he, TMM?
Such a coward and fraud.
He’ll get this thrown in his face each and every time I see him posting.
(I hope you’ll be around to help.)
;)
Comment by trueblue — August 27, 2007 @ 9:56 pm
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Sure I will. The passage you cited was boring, run-of-the-mill, and mundane. That is... unless your a rhetorician, I guess.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:59 pmAfter many revisions and help from others, the “expert†is starting to get it right.
Comment by dlet — August 27, 2007 @ 9:56 pm
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Actually, I always qualified my statement by saying it is one of Aristotle's minor works.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:00 pmMy God, could this discussion have strayed any farther from the issue at hand? It seems it now consists of nothing more than about 5 people throwing irrelevant insults at one another. Political discourse at its finest.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:02 pmComment by r — August 27, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
Wrong thread, genius.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:02 pmSwifty the Boat sez:
That's not debate, Swifty. That's your usual mudslinging garbage. Not surprising that you'd think that that qualifies as 'debate', though...
Oh, don't worry. You'll never be mistaken for one.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:06 pmComment by TripMaster Monkey — August 27, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
You libs never posited a debatable position.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:11 pmThat is… unless your a rhetorician, I guess.
Oh, don’t worry. You’ll never be mistaken for one.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 27, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
Or a grammarian.
Or an adult.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:12 pmHere, read this debate I had with Prof. Mark Trollby:
Aristotle
In the mean time....
Swifty!!!
August 27th, 2007 at 10:17 pmSwifty the Boat sez:
We didn't have to. You provided that for us in your earlier post:
We've established conclusively that you are the one who knows nothing about Aristotle.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:19 pmWell, gotta sign off. That alarm's gonna ring awfully darned early.
'Night, trueblue. See you soon.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:22 pmHere, read this debate I had with Prof. Mark Trollby:
Comment by Swifty
Hahaha. Stupid me. I actually thought I was going to see a transcript from a debate that some scholars had about Aristotle and his teachings. Oh man...he just linked to another TP thread....hahahaha...what a hack....
August 27th, 2007 at 10:22 pmComment by dlet — August 27, 2007 @ 10:22 pm
What's wrong?
You can't read!
August 27th, 2007 at 10:24 pmA closeted gay Senator, who fears being outed, is a national security risk. There is a high potential for blackmail. Senators often receive highly classified information.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:25 pmYou can’t read!
Comment by Swifty — August 27, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
and you can't think, or tell the truth. Typical repugnant.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:26 pmYou can’t read!
Comment by Swifty
Well "debate" is a pretty heavy word. Conversation would be more appropriate. But you are an expert so debate away....
August 27th, 2007 at 10:27 pmAnd that music you like....it's just noise!
August 27th, 2007 at 10:27 pmWTF is up with Republicans! LOL, sheesh it is seems like every 5th conservative politician in this country is looking for cheap, sleazy, public, homo, quickies. This is just the ones that happen to hit on vice cops! Freaking hypocrites, make my day I tell ya.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:30 pmYou little bitch. So you finally decide to show your face when you know I’ve left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You’re a fake, and… I dub thee:
Professor Mark Trollby
Comment by Mr. President
Yeah, Mr. Pee, I can read your "debate".
August 27th, 2007 at 10:31 pmI guess it takes a neocon to "Dub ya"
August 27th, 2007 at 10:35 pmI can read your “debateâ€.
Comment by dlet — August 27, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
Apology accepted.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:41 pmMy mother always warned me: Beware of people who are openly religious or selfrighteous - they're all a bunch of hypocrites, they're more often than not, the worst offenders.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:42 pm........ mother's always right, aint she ......
I could hear several unknown persons in the restroom that appeared to use the restroom for its intended use.
That's getting me so hot!
August 27th, 2007 at 10:47 pmAs a Mormon Bishop, Mitt Romney had (or still has) the resources to refer his buddy Craig to curative electroshock therapy like that adminstered in the basement of the BYU student center in the past. Sensors are attached to the genitalia and if there is the wrong response to the homosexual ponography, a shock is adminstered to the arms, hands or wrists. If there is the correct response to the hetrosexual ponography shown, there is no shock (I wonder which Mormons went out and bought the ponography?) Or maybe if Craig prefers, the Reverend Dobson could have him "cured" in three weeks like Ted Haggard.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:52 pmThe Republicans may as well all, "Come out of the closet", they are all gays who used gay bashing to advance in politics. Not that there is anything wrong with being gay. If Senator Craig doesn't have the guts to admit he's gay, then he can stay in that hot closet and sweat it out. Being married doesn't mean a thing to gay men, they just live a double life until they get caught. Then they claim they pleaded guilty to a crime they didn't commit. The person who said Karl Rove is gay is probably right. I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out now that he's a private citizen again. Rush Limpbaugh is gay too. He's a cross dresser from way back. Why do you think he smokes such BIG cigars? It's not because he likes them, he's just practicing for later.
Who knows? The shadow knows!
August 27th, 2007 at 10:55 pmI'd love it if it turned out that the PATRIOT Act was somehow responsible for the increased restroom surveillance (?) that made it possible to bust Larry Craig.
Thank you, PATRIOT Act, for making the bathrooms of America's airports safe for law abiding citizens!
August 27th, 2007 at 11:03 pmYet another outed holier-than-thou Republican - wonder if he and Ted Haggard were ever an item??
August 27th, 2007 at 11:04 pmBill Clinton did it while he was President of the United States.
Coolest president walking the planet.
Scored lots of womenpussybeaverhunter! Raped a few along the way too.
August 27th, 2007 at 11:29 pmGot away with it Bubba. That's Slick Willy's willy at work.
Being an Idahoan, I heartily applaud Craig's "stall tactics"! This will really help the repubs in the next elections. What is worse than his actions is his CONTINUAL LYING as to his conduct. LIE, LIE, LIE........and we are supposed to trust A@@holes like this preaching the GOP line? My biggest fear is that he slips out of the noose. But I bet the pressure for him to be gone TOMORROW will be intense from the GOP.
If this gets dragged out, it will only be worse for the repuklicans.....so I say drag it out for everyone to make their own judgements. I guess Craig never heard "When you find youself at the bottom of a hole, stop digging!"
Adios, LIAR.
August 27th, 2007 at 11:47 pmConservatives never seem to comprehend:
Since their candidates run on the campaign platform: "Vote for Me---I don't have the wrong type of Sex and my evil opponent Does",
Then what Craig and the dozens of other conservatives did is outrageous hypocrisy while Barney Frank or Bill Clinton getting caught is not. Because their campaign platform was not "I am morally superior sexually to my opponent".
August 27th, 2007 at 11:52 pmBill Clinton did it while he was President of the United States.
Coolest president walking the planet.
Scored lots of womenpussybeaverhunter! Raped a few along the way too.
Got away with it Bubba. That’s Slick Willy’s willy at work.
Comment by Bob — August 27, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
Boob, you were asked by me to explain what male hooker Jeff Gannon was doing in the White House so many nights when no press conferences were even scheduled. You were asked by someone else (Zooey, I think) to provide reliable documents that Clinton raped some women. Since you haven't and probably can't, please STFU already!
August 28th, 2007 at 12:15 amEgreggious wrote:
A society that values its members, regardless of sexual orientation, produces individuals with healthy and productive means of expressing themselves. The shattering of self esteem, the lack of inclusiveness, is what contributes to the anti-social behavior of some. I have a wide circle of gay friends whose sexual activities I am familiar with. Through the support of friends and family, almost all of them have risen above the humiliation heaped on them by bigotry and religion, and do not engage in behaviors which are illegal.
Egreggious, I don't single out homosexual acts as somehow uniquely immoral; all sex outside of marriage is immoral and people who engage in immoral behavior try to hide the facts of what they are doing; hence, they become liars. In the broadest sense, one does not need to become a homosexual to become a sodomite. As an example, Bill Clinton showed himself to be cut from essentially the same cloth, even if he never engaged in sex with a man. Most of modern society can be called "Sodom" and most moderns are "sodomites" because they have the heart of a sodomite. Whether that is manifested in "dignifying" one's self by shoving one's reproductive organ up another man's rectum, or by sleeping with the neighbor's wife, the destructive effects on the perpetrator's soul are the same. Immoral behavior is self-destructive behavior, regardless of whether or not it happens to be technically legal. (Don't make the mistake of equating legality with morality -- there are plenty of currently legal things that are inherently immoral, and homosexual acts are among them.)
Only a society characterized by love of our Creator is a society that can truly value its members, because each person is created in the image of God, and that fact necessarily limits the range and forms of legitimate self-expression. Homosexual acts can never be legitimate because they do not properly image God. God created human beings to manifest TRUE queerness, not the faux queerness, the pseudo-queerness of homosexuality. Because homosexuality is a love of sameness; indeed, it is primarily a LOVE OF SELF, and it is love of self that motivates all sexual immorality. The queerness that God calls man to is the queerness of a man loving a woman -- now there's a genuine difference! There's true diversity! -- and furthermore God calls us to monogamous, life-long faithfulness in the context of marriage. That is absolutely the queerest thing anyone ever heard of: look at all the people who can't seem to make a marriage work. Yes, life-long marriage between one man and one woman, with no sex outside of that relationship, is almost the queerest thing anyone could think of, and it is that queerness that God calls us to. About the only thing queerer than that is a God who loves sinful human beings so much that He willingly sacrifices Himself on a cross for their sakes.
You and your wide circle of gay friends are wilfully ignorant fools (because you ought to know better, but refuse to) and I call you to repentance. Come out and join in the only truly gay and for sure the queerest life anyone could ever imagine -- a life peacefully reconciled to our Creator and Savior and His created order. The truth shall set you free . . .
August 28th, 2007 at 12:21 amGod created human beings to manifest TRUE queerness...
Comment by Christopher Witmer
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WTF is this freak not on? Really bizarre. Schizophrenic off his medicine again.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:50 amClinton was a serial rapist.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:52 amLook at the testimony of the women he raped.
HEyOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooOOOO!!!!!!! Bob!
August 28th, 2007 at 12:56 amClinton was a serial rapist.
Look at the testimony of the women he raped.
Comment by Bob — August 28, 2007 @ 12:52 am
Two convictions required before someone can be labelled a serial criminal?
August 28th, 2007 at 1:02 amClinton was a serial rapist.
Look at the testimony of the women he raped.
Comment by Bob — August 28, 2007 @ 12:52 am
Any links or specific names, Boob?
August 28th, 2007 at 1:02 amBTW, someone in the Bush White House--maybe Dumbya himself--pays for gay hookers. Google "Jeff Gannon." See: I gave a specific name--which is more than you've been able to do in your more numerous posts.
"Bob" was that Larry Craig's pet nickname for you, given what you did for him at the National Airport mens room?
August 28th, 2007 at 1:10 amQuit bashing Homosexuals!
After all, Sen. Craig was only participating in typical Republican behavior.
August 28th, 2007 at 1:21 amVery Interesting;
Party Information Lead Attorneys
Defendant CRAIG, LARRY EDWIN
1000 WATER ST SW #6
WASHINGTON DC
20025
from the court documents about larry's failed attempt at mens room romance......
Jenny's Asian Fusion ($$$$)
Pan-Asian & Pacific Rim
1000 Water St SW, Washington 20024
At 9th St SW
from here....
http://washingtondc.menupages.com/restaurantdetails.asp?areaid=45&restaurantid=23324&neighborhoodid=0&cuisineid=0
Larry was SO proud of his being a Senator he tried to use it to intimidate a cop, but when it comes time for his ADDRESS, he neither uses his HOME address in Idaho NOR his official Washington address, but a restaurant's address.....what was he trying to HIDE?
And from whom, the little Ms I wonder?
His staff, (those who do not participate in his petulance for mens room romance...)
The dumb reichwing voters?(as if there was any other kind in the party of pedophile protection and criminally organized corruption and perversions.
August 28th, 2007 at 1:22 am"Come out and join in the only truly gay and for sure the queerest life anyone could ever imagine" - Christopher Witmer
Chris, did you know that talking to yourself in public is not socially advisable?
Clearly you're stoned. I think you've been taking bong hits for phallic reasons.
August 28th, 2007 at 1:35 amYou and your wide circle of gay friends are wilfully ignorant fools (because you ought to know better, but refuse to) and I call you to repentance. Come out and join in the only truly gay and for sure the queerest life anyone could ever imagine — a life peacefully reconciled to our Creator and Savior and His created order. The truth shall set you free . . .
Comment by Christopher Witmer — August 28, 2007 @ 12:21 am
Shut the f*ck up, you insufferable prick.
August 28th, 2007 at 1:48 amHey TP how about that LA Democrap mayor horndog Villagossa.
Oh that's right it was consenting adults.
Libs book of virtues( low) excludes fuking around on your wifey poo as it is legal. No laws broken here al legal stuff. He can still govern and be trusted.
August 28th, 2007 at 2:16 amLarry Craig called Bill Clinton “a bad boy, a naughty boy.
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I guess Larrys a bad boy for wanting homo sex.
Lighten up libtards no one died. Here is a slogan for libtards, not original of course:
"When Larry Craig lied no one died". :)
August 28th, 2007 at 2:19 amHail to Swifty!
HeyoooOooooOOooOoOoooo!
Be very quiet I am undercover till 12 am :)
August 28th, 2007 at 2:23 amLibs book of virtues( low) excludes fuking around on your wifey poo as it is legal. No laws broken here al legal stuff. He can still govern and be trusted.
Comment by Bob — August 28, 2007 @ 2:16 am
I didn't know that Newt Gingrich, Henry Hyde, Bob Barr, Senator Vitter, Rudy Giuliani, Robert Livingstone--just to name a few--are liberals. Speaking about cheating on one's wife, Boob!
August 28th, 2007 at 2:32 amYou still haven't explained what male hooker Jeff Gannon was doing all those nights in the WH, or provided the names of the women Clinton supposedly raped, because you obviously can't. So now you're trying to divert the discussion to mention of the mayor of LA, whose name you misspelled, BTW. Sorry, Boob, but it only shows how lame your piss-posts are.
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Swifty!!!
August 28th, 2007 at 4:47 amMan oh man do I miss out on alot of interesting threads when I go home to the family:
August 28th, 2007 at 7:53 amA few comments:
1) any one who refers to Clinton as a "bad boy, a naughty boy", has a few strings loose in the upper cranial region. It appears that Senator Craig wishes he was the "bad boy, the naughty boy"!
2) who the hell wants any sexual activity, in a mens room? Hell, I have anxiety attacks when I'm doing my duty there (call it restroomaphobia, but I prefer my privacy, thank you very much)
3) The party of family values?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HEYOOOOooooOOOOOooooOOOOOooooOOOOooo
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Those of us raised in Idaho remember another similar sex scandal; the "Boys of Boise". It was in the 50's, and didn't have the stink of hypocriscy that this does. Great to see the phone Craig finally caught in the act. It was just a matter of time.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:28 am"When Craig lied, nobody died."
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"When Craig lied, nobody died."
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"When Craig lied, nobody died."
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I just love this slogan:)
August 28th, 2007 at 10:44 amHey TP how about that LA Democrap mayor horndog Villagossa.
Oh that’s right it was consenting adults. Dems love to elect horndog fukers.
"Scoring snatch comes to the Dems as natch"!
Libs book of virtues( low) excludes fuking around on your wifey poo as it is legal.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:50 amNo laws broken here all legal stuff.
He can still govern and be trusted.
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Hey Lora
Here is my lame post again:)
He was arrested for tapping his foot and placing his luggage in the stall with him? Are you kidding me? I hate hypocrasy as much as the next guy but this is bizzare to say the least. I'd better not listen to my IPOD in the john anymore because if I tap my foot I might get busted for lewd behavior. What a country!!!
August 28th, 2007 at 11:17 am#364
Comment by Lora — August 27, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
"And how many stories has RedState run on Jeff Gannon, the State Senator arrested for a similar bathroom incident in Florida, etc.?"
"But I did see that story on the liberal Huffington Post, which often cross-references to TP."
We aren't talking about the Huffington Post. Also I am suprised they reference TP....seems pretty risky most of the time.
I have never even been to the RedState web site. Never even heard of it. You must cruise the blogs alot more that I do. Do you have a link to the story where Gannon was arrested in Florida of what you say?
August 28th, 2007 at 11:49 amFoot tapping is illegal? obsene?
TP so puritanical.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:20 pmCraig tapped his right foot. I recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct.
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Oh how evil and vile that foot tapping Larry boy.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:23 pmLock him up before he gets to the children.
Save the children!
"When Clinton lied, no one died".
"When Larry tapped, I was takin' a crap".
August 28th, 2007 at 12:28 pmI can't believe the amount of HOMOPHOBIA in the above posts, this is a bunch of @@@@@ everyone of the above posters have probably done something similar at some point, by something similar I mean stretching tapping or adjusting, this is so off the wall to be highly questionable!!! And I am not a fan and never have been a fan of Sen Craig. All I am seeing is knee jerk homophobia.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:31 pmadministrator1: your comment is something out the '50's, it shows the shallowness of your understanding of being gay. Wake up, as in a previous comment, tapping your foot, lewd and lascivious, they get away with it because it no one fights the system and wins. That's also why entrapment works, period! And I've never been a supporter of Craig's politics, in some wyas he's hoist by his own petard. But questions still have to be mnade as to lthe legitimacy of the whole police action!
August 28th, 2007 at 2:54 pmIt's the toilet room that just makes ya wanna scream. A Senator can't do any better than look for whatever in the can? He could have shown a little more discretion and intelligence.
August 28th, 2007 at 3:53 pmIts amazing that senators like him would vote to ban gays from doing something respectable and decent like get married! But its just fine to hook up in a scummy public bathroom! I get it...keep'em hiding in the scummy latrines, unmarried and unrespected, so you don't limit the opportunity for republicans to get "serviced" whenever they want...its like keeping people oppressed for one's own pleasure. Sick . I think they get off on the fact that THEY have coined it as sinful...it turns them on. Gays are like republicans' and fundamentalist preachers' sex slaves, "Focus on the Family" the "bossman" that whips them into "staying in the kitch-"--oops, I mean "bathroom"...
August 28th, 2007 at 4:36 pmIf I could interview the man, I'd ask this: "So let me get this straight (no pun)...gays can't get married or have rights that other people have, but they should feel free to blow you in public bathrooms...?"
August 28th, 2007 at 4:43 pm...and by the way, Witmer, that crap about legitimacy/God's image...lovely how you Christians write and re-write your own book and call it "truth." Did you not hear how gay marriage WAS legitimate 600 years ago in Europe? Did you not even read the VATICAN's OWN historical records about Edict of Nantes, etc., when numerous times through history (esp. 800 A.D. and the 1300's, when there were three popes...) a bunch of men re-wrote the bible? Uhhh, yeah, dude...apparently, Mary wasn't a virgin until hundreds of years after the original "bible" was written. I have a holy bridge I'd love to sell ya...ignorant cretan. If you lived in the middle east, you'd probably be lined up and eager to be a suicide bomber.
August 28th, 2007 at 4:52 pmHe wasn't busted for foot tapping, he was busted for foot tapping, then putting his foot against the other guys, and then putting his hand under the stall wall (which for you who don't know, is generally the signal for the person wanting to "give"), it was a series of signals. And this guy has been under rumors for a long time.
As far as Bill Clinton goes, at least he wasn't hypocritical. While he wasn't that much a friend to gays while in office (he gave the country the DOMA act, which is probably unconstitutional since states have the right to define marriage, not the feds) he wasn't this pious, I am with the Lord type either. Craig voted straight religious right, cited his family values, his faith, you name in lockstep with the other GOP'ers.
And while politicians of all stripes have done immoral things (give me a break, people like Rayburn, Fulbright, Wilbur Mills, Bob Barr, Henry Hyde, Nixon, all had affairs, had sexual flings, etc to show you the bipartisan nature) when you have a member of a political party who practically has done everything but change their name to "Hezbollah" ("party of God" in English), whose major agenda has been to appease religious conservatives, and when members like Craig and Allen who vote and publicly demonize gays and others in the religious right crosshairs they take in one level lower, because then their hypocrisy is obvious, that the GOP is no more moral then the Dems, that it might apppeal to the racists and the religious right bigots as a political maneuver but in practice they are just as scummy as any other politician.
If the religious right keeps falling for this, then they really are stupid, if they think any party is going to bring their heaven on earth, they really are deluded and mentally ill.
And honestly, I have more sympathy for a Barney Frank, who had affairs with pages, then for this bag of crap from Idaho, because Frank never put himself out there as some sort of pious saint of a politician.
August 28th, 2007 at 5:23 pm———————–
Hey Lora
Here is my lame post again:)
Comment by Bob — August 28, 2007 @ 10:50 am
Boob, repeating the same post doesn't mean you answered any questions or supplied any requested links. You didn't.
August 28th, 2007 at 6:19 pmOh, and BOB, people HAVE died because Craig lied. Instead of being truthful and speaking up, he sided with intolerance, added to it through his words and voting records, and thus contributed to the loss of jobs, family, respect, and even lives. He may not have directly physically gay-bashed, but he helped maintain the atmosphere, the bigotry, and the oppression that leads to it. And btw, that phrase you are using originally applied to Bush's lies, so I am at a loss as to why you are trumpeting it. I guess it just goes to show you can give a Republican any senseless phrase and they will repeat it, like a parrot...with no thought at all. No one teach you critical thinking? Methinks you were a "child left behind."
August 28th, 2007 at 6:22 pmI have never even been to the RedState web site. Never even heard of it. You must cruise the blogs alot more that I do. Do you have a link to the story where Gannon was arrested in Florida of what you say?
Comment by Tracy — August 28, 2007 @ 11:49 am
You either have a bad memory or are lying, because I pointed out to you previously on TP that some bloggers here have claimed to have been banned on RedState, and your reply was to the effect that I should demand proof. I have looked at RedState maybe twice in the past year. Unlike you, a frequent troll, I don't spend much time on sites I dislike.
August 28th, 2007 at 6:30 pmI didn't say that Gannon was arrested in Florida. I mentioned a Florida State Senator who was arrested for pandering to a man in a public toilet--the one who headed McCain's campaign there. I specifically wrote:“And how many stories has RedState run on Jeff Gannon, the State Senator arrested for a similar bathroom incident in Florida, etc.?â€
I see that you can interpret the comma after Gannon's name as part of a modifier for what follows, but the "etc." at the end of the sentence implies that there are more similar stories (of GOP sex scandals). Besides, don't you even know that Gannon is not a State Senator?
Just saw that assertion of Bob's re. Clinton as a serial rapist...wow, where were you when the team of republican lawyers were trying to take him down? Clearly you have some evidence that they are unaware of! Gee, you should be a lawyer--oops, I forgot, you actually have to be willing to exert yourself mentally. Bit of an obstacle for you, eh? Its funny how people vote republican--often against their own financial interests--because someone implied they'd be a girlie-man if they voted dem/liberal. Thank god the steel mill workers and early union men weren't as insecure about their manhood as modern men, or we'd still have wages and work conditions like China--the Pinkerton soldiers could have just called the picketers girlie men and been done with the whole thing. So Bob, wht exactly do you get out of voting republican? I have a funny feeling you are not a corporate CEO with big tax deductions...
August 28th, 2007 at 7:29 pmI specifically wrote:“And how many stories has RedState run on Jeff Gannon, the State Senator arrested for a similar bathroom incident in Florida, etc.?â€
I think, perhaps, you are thinking, Lora, of Bob Allen, An McCainAide.
August 31st, 2007 at 1:58 am