Comments on: Sen. Larry Craig arrested, pleads guilty. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:36:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Zep Tepi http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-11/#comment-4049524 Zep Tepi Fri, 31 Aug 2007 05:58:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4049524 I specifically wrote:“And how many stories has RedState run on Jeff Gannon, the State Senator arrested for a similar bathroom incident in Florida, etc.?” I think, perhaps, you are thinking, Lora, of Bob Allen, An McCainAide. I specifically wrote:“And how many stories has RedState run on Jeff Gannon, the State Senator arrested for a similar bathroom incident in Florida, etc.?”

I think, perhaps, you are thinking, Lora, of Bob Allen, An McCainAide.

]]> By: CJ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-11/#comment-4043454 CJ Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:29:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4043454 Just saw that assertion of Bob's re. Clinton as a serial rapist...wow, where were you when the team of republican lawyers were trying to take him down? Clearly you have some evidence that they are unaware of! Gee, you should be a lawyer--oops, I forgot, you actually have to be willing to exert yourself mentally. Bit of an obstacle for you, eh? Its funny how people vote republican--often against their own financial interests--because someone implied they'd be a girlie-man if they voted dem/liberal. Thank god the steel mill workers and early union men weren't as insecure about their manhood as modern men, or we'd still have wages and work conditions like China--the Pinkerton soldiers could have just called the picketers girlie men and been done with the whole thing. So Bob, wht exactly do you get out of voting republican? I have a funny feeling you are not a corporate CEO with big tax deductions... Just saw that assertion of Bob’s re. Clinton as a serial rapist…wow, where were you when the team of republican lawyers were trying to take him down? Clearly you have some evidence that they are unaware of! Gee, you should be a lawyer–oops, I forgot, you actually have to be willing to exert yourself mentally. Bit of an obstacle for you, eh? Its funny how people vote republican–often against their own financial interests–because someone implied they’d be a girlie-man if they voted dem/liberal. Thank god the steel mill workers and early union men weren’t as insecure about their manhood as modern men, or we’d still have wages and work conditions like China–the Pinkerton soldiers could have just called the picketers girlie men and been done with the whole thing. So Bob, wht exactly do you get out of voting republican? I have a funny feeling you are not a corporate CEO with big tax deductions…

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-11/#comment-4043337 Lora Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:30:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4043337 I have never even been to the RedState web site. Never even heard of it. You must cruise the blogs alot more that I do. Do you have a link to the story where Gannon was arrested in Florida of what you say? Comment by Tracy — August 28, 2007 @ 11:49 am You either have a bad memory or are lying, because I pointed out to you previously on TP that some bloggers here have claimed to have been banned on RedState, and your reply was to the effect that I should demand proof. I have looked at RedState maybe twice in the past year. Unlike you, a frequent troll, I don't spend much time on sites I dislike. I didn't say that Gannon was arrested in Florida. I mentioned a Florida State Senator who was arrested for pandering to a man in a public toilet--the one who headed McCain's campaign there. I specifically wrote:“And how many stories has RedState run on Jeff Gannon, the State Senator arrested for a similar bathroom incident in Florida, etc.?” I see that you can interpret the comma after Gannon's name as part of a modifier for what follows, but the "etc." at the end of the sentence implies that there are more similar stories (of GOP sex scandals). Besides, don't you even know that Gannon is not a State Senator? I have never even been to the RedState web site. Never even heard of it. You must cruise the blogs alot more that I do. Do you have a link to the story where Gannon was arrested in Florida of what you say?
Comment by Tracy — August 28, 2007 @ 11:49 am

You either have a bad memory or are lying, because I pointed out to you previously on TP that some bloggers here have claimed to have been banned on RedState, and your reply was to the effect that I should demand proof. I have looked at RedState maybe twice in the past year. Unlike you, a frequent troll, I don’t spend much time on sites I dislike.
I didn’t say that Gannon was arrested in Florida. I mentioned a Florida State Senator who was arrested for pandering to a man in a public toilet–the one who headed McCain’s campaign there. I specifically wrote:“And how many stories has RedState run on Jeff Gannon, the State Senator arrested for a similar bathroom incident in Florida, etc.?”
I see that you can interpret the comma after Gannon’s name as part of a modifier for what follows, but the “etc.” at the end of the sentence implies that there are more similar stories (of GOP sex scandals). Besides, don’t you even know that Gannon is not a State Senator?

]]> By: CJ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-11/#comment-4043313 CJ Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:22:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4043313 Oh, and BOB, people HAVE died because Craig lied. Instead of being truthful and speaking up, he sided with intolerance, added to it through his words and voting records, and thus contributed to the loss of jobs, family, respect, and even lives. He may not have directly physically gay-bashed, but he helped maintain the atmosphere, the bigotry, and the oppression that leads to it. And btw, that phrase you are using originally applied to Bush's lies, so I am at a loss as to why you are trumpeting it. I guess it just goes to show you can give a Republican any senseless phrase and they will repeat it, like a parrot...with no thought at all. No one teach you critical thinking? Methinks you were a "child left behind." Oh, and BOB, people HAVE died because Craig lied. Instead of being truthful and speaking up, he sided with intolerance, added to it through his words and voting records, and thus contributed to the loss of jobs, family, respect, and even lives. He may not have directly physically gay-bashed, but he helped maintain the atmosphere, the bigotry, and the oppression that leads to it. And btw, that phrase you are using originally applied to Bush’s lies, so I am at a loss as to why you are trumpeting it. I guess it just goes to show you can give a Republican any senseless phrase and they will repeat it, like a parrot…with no thought at all. No one teach you critical thinking? Methinks you were a “child left behind.”

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-11/#comment-4043304 Lora Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:19:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4043304 ———————– Hey Lora Here is my lame post again:) Comment by Bob — August 28, 2007 @ 10:50 am Boob, repeating the same post doesn't mean you answered any questions or supplied any requested links. You didn't. ———————–
Hey Lora
Here is my lame post again:)
Comment by Bob — August 28, 2007 @ 10:50 am

Boob, repeating the same post doesn’t mean you answered any questions or supplied any requested links. You didn’t.

]]> By: bill http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-11/#comment-4043051 bill Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:23:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4043051 He wasn't busted for foot tapping, he was busted for foot tapping, then putting his foot against the other guys, and then putting his hand under the stall wall (which for you who don't know, is generally the signal for the person wanting to "give"), it was a series of signals. And this guy has been under rumors for a long time. As far as Bill Clinton goes, at least he wasn't hypocritical. While he wasn't that much a friend to gays while in office (he gave the country the DOMA act, which is probably unconstitutional since states have the right to define marriage, not the feds) he wasn't this pious, I am with the Lord type either. Craig voted straight religious right, cited his family values, his faith, you name in lockstep with the other GOP'ers. And while politicians of all stripes have done immoral things (give me a break, people like Rayburn, Fulbright, Wilbur Mills, Bob Barr, Henry Hyde, Nixon, all had affairs, had sexual flings, etc to show you the bipartisan nature) when you have a member of a political party who practically has done everything but change their name to "Hezbollah" ("party of God" in English), whose major agenda has been to appease religious conservatives, and when members like Craig and Allen who vote and publicly demonize gays and others in the religious right crosshairs they take in one level lower, because then their hypocrisy is obvious, that the GOP is no more moral then the Dems, that it might apppeal to the racists and the religious right bigots as a political maneuver but in practice they are just as scummy as any other politician. If the religious right keeps falling for this, then they really are stupid, if they think any party is going to bring their heaven on earth, they really are deluded and mentally ill. And honestly, I have more sympathy for a Barney Frank, who had affairs with pages, then for this bag of crap from Idaho, because Frank never put himself out there as some sort of pious saint of a politician. He wasn’t busted for foot tapping, he was busted for foot tapping, then putting his foot against the other guys, and then putting his hand under the stall wall (which for you who don’t know, is generally the signal for the person wanting to “give”), it was a series of signals. And this guy has been under rumors for a long time.

As far as Bill Clinton goes, at least he wasn’t hypocritical. While he wasn’t that much a friend to gays while in office (he gave the country the DOMA act, which is probably unconstitutional since states have the right to define marriage, not the feds) he wasn’t this pious, I am with the Lord type either. Craig voted straight religious right, cited his family values, his faith, you name in lockstep with the other GOP’ers.

And while politicians of all stripes have done immoral things (give me a break, people like Rayburn, Fulbright, Wilbur Mills, Bob Barr, Henry Hyde, Nixon, all had affairs, had sexual flings, etc to show you the bipartisan nature) when you have a member of a political party who practically has done everything but change their name to “Hezbollah” (”party of God” in English), whose major agenda has been to appease religious conservatives, and when members like Craig and Allen who vote and publicly demonize gays and others in the religious right crosshairs they take in one level lower, because then their hypocrisy is obvious, that the GOP is no more moral then the Dems, that it might apppeal to the racists and the religious right bigots as a political maneuver but in practice they are just as scummy as any other politician.

If the religious right keeps falling for this, then they really are stupid, if they think any party is going to bring their heaven on earth, they really are deluded and mentally ill.

And honestly, I have more sympathy for a Barney Frank, who had affairs with pages, then for this bag of crap from Idaho, because Frank never put himself out there as some sort of pious saint of a politician.

]]> By: CJ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-11/#comment-4042930 CJ Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:52:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4042930 ...and by the way, Witmer, that crap about legitimacy/God's image...lovely how you Christians write and re-write your own book and call it "truth." Did you not hear how gay marriage WAS legitimate 600 years ago in Europe? Did you not even read the VATICAN's OWN historical records about Edict of Nantes, etc., when numerous times through history (esp. 800 A.D. and the 1300's, when there were three popes...) a bunch of men re-wrote the bible? Uhhh, yeah, dude...apparently, Mary wasn't a virgin until hundreds of years after the original "bible" was written. I have a holy bridge I'd love to sell ya...ignorant cretan. If you lived in the middle east, you'd probably be lined up and eager to be a suicide bomber. …and by the way, Witmer, that crap about legitimacy/God’s image…lovely how you Christians write and re-write your own book and call it “truth.” Did you not hear how gay marriage WAS legitimate 600 years ago in Europe? Did you not even read the VATICAN’s OWN historical records about Edict of Nantes, etc., when numerous times through history (esp. 800 A.D. and the 1300’s, when there were three popes…) a bunch of men re-wrote the bible? Uhhh, yeah, dude…apparently, Mary wasn’t a virgin until hundreds of years after the original “bible” was written. I have a holy bridge I’d love to sell ya…ignorant cretan. If you lived in the middle east, you’d probably be lined up and eager to be a suicide bomber.

]]> By: CJ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-11/#comment-4042909 CJ Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:43:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4042909 If I could interview the man, I'd ask this: "So let me get this straight (no pun)...gays can't get married or have rights that other people have, but they should feel free to blow you in public bathrooms...?" If I could interview the man, I’d ask this: “So let me get this straight (no pun)…gays can’t get married or have rights that other people have, but they should feel free to blow you in public bathrooms…?”

]]> By: CJ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-11/#comment-4042898 CJ Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:36:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4042898 Its amazing that senators like him would vote to ban gays from doing something respectable and decent like get married! But its just fine to hook up in a scummy public bathroom! I get it...keep'em hiding in the scummy latrines, unmarried and unrespected, so you don't limit the opportunity for republicans to get "serviced" whenever they want...its like keeping people oppressed for one's own pleasure. Sick . I think they get off on the fact that THEY have coined it as sinful...it turns them on. Gays are like republicans' and fundamentalist preachers' sex slaves, "Focus on the Family" the "bossman" that whips them into "staying in the kitch-"--oops, I mean "bathroom"... Its amazing that senators like him would vote to ban gays from doing something respectable and decent like get married! But its just fine to hook up in a scummy public bathroom! I get it…keep’em hiding in the scummy latrines, unmarried and unrespected, so you don’t limit the opportunity for republicans to get “serviced” whenever they want…its like keeping people oppressed for one’s own pleasure. Sick . I think they get off on the fact that THEY have coined it as sinful…it turns them on. Gays are like republicans’ and fundamentalist preachers’ sex slaves, “Focus on the Family” the “bossman” that whips them into “staying in the kitch-”–oops, I mean “bathroom”…

]]> By: williamf http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-11/#comment-4042770 williamf Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:53:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4042770 It's the toilet room that just makes ya wanna scream. A Senator can't do any better than look for whatever in the can? He could have shown a little more discretion and intelligence. It’s the toilet room that just makes ya wanna scream. A Senator can’t do any better than look for whatever in the can? He could have shown a little more discretion and intelligence.

]]> By: a wallace http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-11/#comment-4042524 a wallace Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:54:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4042524 administrator1: your comment is something out the '50's, it shows the shallowness of your understanding of being gay. Wake up, as in a previous comment, tapping your foot, lewd and lascivious, they get away with it because it no one fights the system and wins. That's also why entrapment works, period! And I've never been a supporter of Craig's politics, in some wyas he's hoist by his own petard. But questions still have to be mnade as to lthe legitimacy of the whole police action! administrator1: your comment is something out the ’50’s, it shows the shallowness of your understanding of being gay. Wake up, as in a previous comment, tapping your foot, lewd and lascivious, they get away with it because it no one fights the system and wins. That’s also why entrapment works, period! And I’ve never been a supporter of Craig’s politics, in some wyas he’s hoist by his own petard. But questions still have to be mnade as to lthe legitimacy of the whole police action!

]]> By: a wallace http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-10/#comment-4041980 a wallace Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:31:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4041980 I can't believe the amount of HOMOPHOBIA in the above posts, this is a bunch of @@@@@ everyone of the above posters have probably done something similar at some point, by something similar I mean stretching tapping or adjusting, this is so off the wall to be highly questionable!!! And I am not a fan and never have been a fan of Sen Craig. All I am seeing is knee jerk homophobia. I can’t believe the amount of HOMOPHOBIA in the above posts, this is a bunch of @@@@@ everyone of the above posters have probably done something similar at some point, by something similar I mean stretching tapping or adjusting, this is so off the wall to be highly questionable!!! And I am not a fan and never have been a fan of Sen Craig. All I am seeing is knee jerk homophobia.

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-10/#comment-4041975 Bob Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:28:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4041975 "When Clinton lied, no one died". "When Larry tapped, I was takin' a crap". “When Clinton lied, no one died”.

“When Larry tapped, I was takin’ a crap”.

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-10/#comment-4041968 Bob Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:23:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4041968 Craig tapped his right foot. I recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct. ----------------------------------------------- Oh how evil and vile that foot tapping Larry boy. Lock him up before he gets to the children. Save the children! Craig tapped his right foot. I recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct.

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Oh how evil and vile that foot tapping Larry boy.
Lock him up before he gets to the children.
Save the children!

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-10/#comment-4041956 Bob Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:20:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4041956 Foot tapping is illegal? obsene? TP so puritanical. Foot tapping is illegal? obsene?

TP so puritanical.

]]> By: Tracy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-10/#comment-4041846 Tracy Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:49:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4041846 #364 Comment by Lora — August 27, 2007 @ 8:58 pm "And how many stories has RedState run on Jeff Gannon, the State Senator arrested for a similar bathroom incident in Florida, etc.?" "But I did see that story on the liberal Huffington Post, which often cross-references to TP." We aren't talking about the Huffington Post. Also I am suprised they reference TP....seems pretty risky most of the time. I have never even been to the RedState web site. Never even heard of it. You must cruise the blogs alot more that I do. Do you have a link to the story where Gannon was arrested in Florida of what you say? #364

Comment by Lora — August 27, 2007 @ 8:58 pm

“And how many stories has RedState run on Jeff Gannon, the State Senator arrested for a similar bathroom incident in Florida, etc.?”

“But I did see that story on the liberal Huffington Post, which often cross-references to TP.”

We aren’t talking about the Huffington Post. Also I am suprised they reference TP….seems pretty risky most of the time.

I have never even been to the RedState web site. Never even heard of it. You must cruise the blogs alot more that I do. Do you have a link to the story where Gannon was arrested in Florida of what you say?

]]> By: Cal http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-10/#comment-4041743 Cal Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:17:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4041743 He was arrested for tapping his foot and placing his luggage in the stall with him? Are you kidding me? I hate hypocrasy as much as the next guy but this is bizzare to say the least. I'd better not listen to my IPOD in the john anymore because if I tap my foot I might get busted for lewd behavior. What a country!!! He was arrested for tapping his foot and placing his luggage in the stall with him? Are you kidding me? I hate hypocrasy as much as the next guy but this is bizzare to say the least. I’d better not listen to my IPOD in the john anymore because if I tap my foot I might get busted for lewd behavior. What a country!!!

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-10/#comment-4041684 Bob Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:50:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4041684 Hey TP how about that LA Democrap mayor horndog Villagossa. Oh that’s right it was consenting adults. Dems love to elect horndog fukers. "Scoring snatch comes to the Dems as natch"! Libs book of virtues( low) excludes fuking around on your wifey poo as it is legal. No laws broken here all legal stuff. He can still govern and be trusted. ----------------------- Hey Lora Here is my lame post again:) Hey TP how about that LA Democrap mayor horndog Villagossa.
Oh that’s right it was consenting adults. Dems love to elect horndog fukers.

“Scoring snatch comes to the Dems as natch”!

Libs book of virtues( low) excludes fuking around on your wifey poo as it is legal.
No laws broken here all legal stuff.
He can still govern and be trusted.
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Hey Lora
Here is my lame post again:)

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-10/#comment-4041674 Bob Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:44:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4041674 "When Craig lied, nobody died." ----------------------------------------- "When Craig lied, nobody died." ----------------------------------------- "When Craig lied, nobody died." ----------------------------------------- I just love this slogan:) “When Craig lied, nobody died.”
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“When Craig lied, nobody died.”
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“When Craig lied, nobody died.”
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I just love this slogan:)

]]> By: 5th Generation Idahoan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/comment-page-10/#comment-4041621 5th Generation Idahoan Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:28:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/27/sen-larry-craig-arrested-pleads-guilty/#comment-4041621 Those of us raised in Idaho remember another similar sex scandal; the "Boys of Boise". It was in the 50's, and didn't have the stink of hypocriscy that this does. Great to see the phone Craig finally caught in the act. It was just a matter of time. Those of us raised in Idaho remember another similar sex scandal; the “Boys of Boise”. It was in the 50’s, and didn’t have the stink of hypocriscy that this does. Great to see the phone Craig finally caught in the act. It was just a matter of time.

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