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Gonzales’ grammatically incorrect farewell.»

The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank looks at the fitting departure of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales:

From “good morning” to “God bless America,” he spoke for all of one minute and 41 seconds — during which he managed to consult his written statement 26 times and to avoid saying a single word about the roiling scandals that finally forced him to quit. He entered the Justice Department conference room with a grin and departed without taking any of the questions shouted at his back:

“Why are you leaving?”

“Why now?”

“Why did you deny the resignation?”

Neither were the questions answered by Gonzales’s resignation letter, which the White House released later — complete with a grammatical error in the second sentence.

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229 Responses to “Gonzales’ grammatically incorrect farewell.”

  1. Strike Says:

    Good riddance gonzo


  2. RUCerious Says:

    I never did get the rules about me and my or my ___ and I.
    Not much of a story here, TP.


  3. isis Says:

    Where did Gonzo get his degree anyway? Does anyone know? Probably mail order.

    Now that Fredo is gone, it’s time to reverse all of the anti-constitutional things he approved (which were totally illegal, BTW) like torture, illegal spying, etc. This guy has done more to destroy the rule of law in this country than anyone in the entire history of the country.

    We all knew that the “Texas Two-Step Bunch” were nothing but sick, twisted, demonic puppets (Miers, Rove, Gonzo, et al)….time to set the sights on the next Texas Fraud sitting you know where!


  4. Wilco Says:

    Holy mother of crap. He used “I” when he should have used “me”. Scandalous!


  5. HeckuvahJob Brownie Says:

    There is incorrect tense shift there too.

    Should say, “After much thought and consideration, I have come to believe thatthis is the right time….”

    Good riddance.


  6. isis Says:

    If anyone really watched Gonzo’s appointment hearings, you’d have to have known back then that he was either a village idiot or just someone with a less than room temperature IQ. I don’t believe that I’ve ever heard this man utter an intelligent sentence during his tenure. Soooo many people thought “WTF” when he was confirmed….we all knew that he didn’t have an original thought in that empty cranium of his.


  7. Wilco Says:

    RU, you wouldn’t say, “it’s the right time for I”
    So you wouldn’t say, “it’s the right time for [my family and] I”
    But you’re right, this is a ridiculous post. Many many people don’t know the proper way to use me and I. Or their, there or they’re for that matter.


  8. isis Says:

    #4 Even is his parting words, he managed to expose his lack of education and intelligence.


  9. RUCerious Says:

    Now the last sentence of the article, does say a lot, metaphorically.

    the Department of Justice plaque, suspended from the ceiling with the help of blue masking tape.
    like
    Our Constitution, dangling by its thumbs, recovering from its waterboarding.


  10. Geekfather Says:

    Really? Of all the shit this guy pulled, we’re going to take issue with his GRAMMAR?!?!


  11. isis Says:

    The fact that he was permitted to function in one of the most key positions in this country is downright frightening. One can only imagine what the level of intelligence is in other positions in this administration. I think we need to be scared right now….really scared.


  12. HeckuvahJob Brownie Says:

    #2, the rule is simple. Take out the “my family and” and see if the sentence reads well.

    Try it. “After much thought and consideration, I believe that this is the right time for …. I to begin a new chapter….

    Doesn’t work. Does it?


  13. caliph garrett Says:

    Compared to the Republicans’ deliberate adjectival use of “Democrat,” this subject/object pronoun misuse is pretty minor.


  14. katy Says:

    i’m with you, RU… i don’t get it…
    i know it’s proper - family and me - but it sounds dumb…
    the english language must be the hardest to learn…

    the better story about dana millbank was when he commented that gonzo wanted to spend more time spying on his family… funny…
    sorta…
    .


  15. troqua Says:

    Anybody have a cure for schadenfreude hangover?


  16. HeckuvahJob Brownie Says:

    #7 wrote “Many many people don’t know the proper way to use me and I. Or their, there or they’re for that matter.”

    But I attorneys general aughtto know.


  17. ace Says:

    Any one of the displaced Federal Judges that were fired by Rove & Gonzo would make an EXCELLENT replacement. You’d have to assume they each have a heightened awareness of fairness and Constitutionality, and its importance in our nation’s survival, in the aftermath of the criminality that led to their own ouster - and the attempt to politicize every FEDERAL agency.


  18. mroome Says:

    Oh come on, LOTS of people, including educated types, get the “I” vs “me” useage wrong. That is the least of the issues we should be talking about concerning the AG. At least he didn’t refer to himself as “myself”.


  19. Brian Spence Says:

    To add to what #7 said, it should read, “I believe this is the right time for me and my family.”

    That said, I’m sure TP knows this is a non-story, but it’s a nice little jab at a guy who’s been helping to ruin this country. Also, in a way, it helps illustrate that this guy isn’t that bright. At least, not bright enough to hold the office of AG. In a job where parsing words is a daily routine, you would assume that Gonzales had a grasp on proper grammar.


  20. Lora Says:

    What do you expect from an administration whose commander-in-chief has his own well-documented problems with speaking correct or intelligible English?


  21. ace Says:

    As for Gonzo’s replacement - it’s as simple as ABC…

    ANYONE BUT CHERTOFF!!!


  22. Wilco Says:

    Brian, “me” or “I” comes at the end of any list. So it should be “my family and me”
    And I feel a bit of an ass for going on with this


  23. missmolly Says:

    This is one misuse of grammar that always irks me. And many educated people make this mistake, which makes me wonder a bit about our education system. And yes, Clinton did it too — he frequently said “the difference between President Bush and I” during the 1992 campaign, causing me to grit my teeth each time he did so.

    It’s as if the default rule to sound grammatically correct is to always say “I” and never say “me” if in doubt. Which, of course, is wrong.

    That said — this is excruciatingly small stuff when compared to the rest of what Gonzo and this administration has done. I’m sure TP included this item merely for amusement instead of scandal.


  24. Fan_of_Man Says:

    um… SO


  25. isis Says:

    Hi Ace! Good to see you again!


  26. katy Says:

    heh… yes, wilco, i remember that rule…
    where’s “english teacher” when needed?!
    .


  27. Croaker Says:

    I’m glad he’s leaving, but with all of the many allegations against him, isn’t mocking him him for a minor grammatical error a bit petty? Really- we complain about the lame jabs from the Right all of the time- no need to do it ourselves.


  28. km4 Says:

    Actually it reveals quite a bit about Bush i.e. he likes to surround himself with B and C players so he can feel more confident about his role as ‘ The Decider’.

    Vanity ( in addition to Stupidity ) is Bush’s strong suit.


  29. isis Says:

    Ace: What are your feelings vis-a-vis the departure of Gonzo during the Congressional hiaitus? Methinks that there is something HUGE afoot here. Hopefully, the dems and the attorneys involved in the scandal got together and did some real digging during all of this free time and this is just the tip of a very large, GOP-encompassing iceberg.


  30. GOP Says:

    Do you liberal loonies ever understand that posts like this make you guys look even more absurd then you already are? This guy was a Harvard-educated lawyer, it’s not a huge mistake, it’s irrelevant. You loonies are just out for blood. Leave the guy alone when it comes to a grammatical error. Either way, this guy rose from immense poverty, put himself through the Air Force Academy (briefly), Rice, and Harvard Law–three of America’s best academic institutions. You guys are just desperate for a story. Pathetic. God forbid someone make a typo in their career! I’m sure this shitty liberal website is completely free from all typos.


  31. isis Says:

    #

    Actually it reveals quite a bit about Bush i.e. he likes to surround himself with B and C players so he can feel more confident about his role as ‘ The Decider’.

    Vanity ( in addition to Stupidity ) is Bush’s strong suit.

    Comment by km4 — August 28, 2007 @ 9:59 am

    I think it has to do with surrounding himself with complicity myself. These people have been with him for decades and have gotten his sorry butt out of heap big trouble during that time. It’s like political blackmail. He props them up to the bitter end so they won’t turn him in on their way out of town.


  32. missmolly Says:

    I find it even more amusing that during his one minute and 41 second farewell speech, he had to consult his written statement 26 times — which is about once every four seconds. Maybe the guy truly DOES have memory problems. Either that, or he just can’t say anything without idiot cards.


  33. why Says:

    ahhhh….don’t you love it, the “compassionate”, “all inclusive”, “tolerant” Liberals making fun of a grammatical error of a Latino.

    Can you imagine the uproar from you hypocritical Liberals if it would have been a Conservative making fun of a grammatical error of a Latino serving in a Democratic administration?

    Not to mention that TP’s headlines and blog entries are filled with grammatical and spelling errors all the time.

    but we all know that Liberals hold others to standards that they aren’t willing to meet first.


  34. isis Says:

    GOP: Since when is Harvard graduating morons? Give me a break here…we all know that certain individuals can “pay their way” to a degree. Looks around this administration will you. It’s you who looks like a moronic idiot criticizing people who find themselves more intelligent than Gonzo and yourself. You are the one looking like a fool.


  35. Arthur C. Says:

    Like Wilco and others, me thinks this is a non-story. If you ask I, grammar and proofreading is for little people, not for we. Clarity is for losers.


  36. troqua Says:

    Comment by GOP — August 28, 2007

    Relax, Skippy. Learn to smile.


  37. Marie Says:

    #2 RUC
    When in doubt, just take out the other part of the phrase and you’ll usually know which to use.
    Tell my wife and I ? No — leave out “my wife” and the correct pronoun is “me.”
    This is the best time for my family and I to begin… No — leave out “my family” and the correct pronoun is “me.”
    People are so afraid to say “me” because of the illiterate usage in phrases like “me and him are leaving” that they are afraid to use the word me when it is correct!

    This is hardly a topic for TP to discuss, however. Other than pointing out that AGAG is a highly placed person who should know better.


  38. Almighty Latin King Nation Says:

    TP is picking on Gonzales because he’s a Hispnic that doesn’t subscribe to the Leftist ideology that Hispanics must be slave to white people.
    TP is racist!


  39. isis Says:

    molly: Did you see Dumbo’s response yesterday? They keep replaying the clip where he had to consult his notes when he said something about Gonzo being “dragged through the …….(pregnant moronic pause)….mud”..It’s truly a “confederacy of dunces”!


  40. isis Says:

    This may, indeed, be a “non story”;however, it is illustrative of just how brain dead Gonzo actually is. It’s trivial when compared to his track record of illegal advice regarding signing statements, torture, spying, etc. certainly but even in his parting words, he managed to mangle it.


  41. missmolly Says:

    Do you liberal loonies ever understand that posts like this make you guys look even more absurd then you already are?

    Comment by GOP — August 28, 2007 @ 10:00 am

    Lighten up — we’re just having some fun with this. We are not using this for justifying his unfitness for AG — we focus on his actual job performance for that.


  42. Mario Says:

    Common… What’s with you guys lately. Are you so hard pressed for stories that you a grammatical error is news?


  43. Almighty Latin King Nation Says:

    You guys are a bunch of racist slimeballs!


  44. isis Says:

    Maybe this thread needs to become a expose on Gonzo’s pathetically illegal advice - and what needs to be overturned regarding signing statements, torture, illegal spying, and the attorney scandal for openers???


  45. troqua Says:

    isis, I liked this one, too:

    It’s sad that we live in a time when a talented and honorable person like Alberto Gonzales is impeding from doing important work….


  46. isis Says:

    We’ve all known since his confirmation hearings about his below average intelligence. This really is a non story. And, with each passing hearing/statement, he’s always managed to “out” his lack of education. Nothing new here.


  47. Marie Says:

    Some of us have never gotten over diagramming sentences and having the arcane rules of grammar drilled into our fourth grade heads. Although, now that the rules are ingrained, I am grateful for the lessons learned.


  48. missmolly Says:

    TP is picking on Gonzales because he’s a Hispnic that doesn’t subscribe to the Leftist ideology that Hispanics must be slave to white people.
    TP is racist!

    Comment by Almighty Latin King Nation — August 28, 2007 @ 10:03 am

    This is missing from my copy of the Leftist ideology. So this must be just another nonsensical lunatic rave from a troll.


  49. isis Says:

    isis, I liked this one, too:

    It’s sad that we live in a time when a talented and honorable person like Alberto Gonzales is impeding from doing important work….

    Comment by troqua — August 28, 2007 @

    Troqua: This one was priceless!! One idiot speaking about another!! It’s downright embarrassing to see the rest of the world laughing their butts off at people representing us, isn’t it?


  50. Democratic Sycamore Says:

    Sure glad we’re focusing on the right things…

    (Uh oh. Was that grammatically correct?)

    We’re still in a war and the Democratic Party is still turning its back on this nation by doing nearly nothing about that. Let’s try focusing on that which has some importance.


  51. troqua Says:

    Hispnic sounds like a slur to me.


  52. why Says:

    TP is picking on Gonzales because he’s a Hispnic that doesn’t subscribe to the Leftist ideology that Hispanics must be slave to white people.
    TP is racist!

    Comment by Almighty Latin King Nation — August 28, 2007 @ 10:03 am

    Exactly, just like they have picked on Dr. Rice, Justice Clarence Thomas, Gen. Powell, Michael Steele and any other Latino or minority that is not a Democratic party hack.

    Liberals can’t stand minorities that don’t subscribe to their ideology.

    In their eyes, Liberals believe that all minorities should belong to the Democratic party.

    Let us not forget that Democrats in Congress have attacked almost every single minority that Bush has nominated for the Federal judgeships.


  53. isis Says:

    It’s sad that we live in a time when a talented and honorable person like Alberto Gonzales is impeding from doing important work….

    Comment by troqua — August 28, 2007 @ 10:07 a

    Another Bush “freudian slip”….too funny! Truer words were never spoken by Dumbya - Gonzo was an impediment, that’s certain.


  54. isis Says:

    I don’t fully comprehend why those who doth protest too much (those attempting to open discussion about bigotry) are precisely the ones who highlight one’s ethnicity????

    DO NOT FALL FOR THE TROLL BAIT REGARDING ETHNICITY.


  55. upright left Says:

    #4 Even is his parting words, he managed to expose his lack of education and intelligence.

    Comment by isis — August 28, 2007 @ 9:49 am

    Wow, way to slam fellow libs. ;)


  56. isis Says:

    Stupid is as Stupid does! It has nothing to do with race, sex, or creed.


  57. why Says:

    Troqua: This one was priceless!! One idiot speaking about another!! It’s downright embarrassing to see the rest of the world laughing their butts off at people representing us, isn’t it?

    Comment by isis — August 28, 2007 @ 10:08 am

    and this is the problem with Liberals. Instead of doing the right thing and standing on principal, they are always wondering what others are thinking about them.

    That is why many Liberals have no morals because they have to make sure that they are liked and loved by everyone, well everyone that they deem Liberal.

    who the heck cares about what others say or think!!!

    I can assure you that nations like France, England, Germany, China, Russia etc could careless what other nations say about them.

    Amazing how worried Liberals are about what others will say……


  58. criticalthinker Says:

    Oh come on, LOTS of people, including educated types, get the “I” vs “me” useage wrong. That is the least of the issues we should be talking about concerning the AG. At least he didn’t refer to himself as “myself”.

    Comment by mroome — August 28, 2007 @ 9:53 am

    Your post reflects the “common sense” approach that most people seem to not get, or seem to not want to get.

    People who point out speling an grammer errors when the message effectively communicates the writers intent, are people without this aspect of “common sense”.


  59. why Says:

    Stupid is as Stupid does! It has nothing to do with race, sex, or creed.

    Comment by isis — August 28, 2007 @ 10:11 am

    Well, you Liberals do love to pick on the minorities that work for the Bush administration, who are Republican, who are Conservative.

    care to tell us why?

    and I am sure that Alberto Gonzalez, a person that came from complete poverty and became the head of the Supreme Court of Texas and who reached the office of the US Attorney is an idiot, right?

    Gonzalez story is one that Liberals should embrace, but they hate Gonzalez because he came up from poverty without adhering to the Liberal victimhood ideology.


  60. isis Says:

    Amazing how worried Liberals are about what others will say……

    Comment by why — August 28, 2007 @ 10:11 am

    If that’s the case, then why are YOU here?? Outed again my friend!
    But you’ve got it wrong this time around - liberals don’t care about what you have to say.


  61. missmolly Says:

    “Liberals can’t stand minorities that don’t subscribe to their ideology.”

    Comment by why — August 28, 2007 @ 10:09 am

    I think a better way of putting that is “Liberals have a problem with any appointee who marches in lockstep with the far right — regardless of race or ethnicity.” We don’t discriminate. We will attack anyone who is merely a shill for this corrupt administration.


  62. troqua Says:

    Amazing how worried Liberals are about what others will say……

    Comment by why — August 28, 2007

    I believe you meant to type “Amazing how Liberals are worried about what others will say…..”


  63. isis Says:

    Perhaps as we see the daily outing of hypocritical Repukes, we realize that what they have to say is nothing but a pile of hypocrisy and a pack of lies?


  64. isis Says:

    Our Conservatard “Why” is beginning to resemble Mr. Pee…..outed again, huh?


  65. kelso Says:

    Flashbacks of my mom lecturing me over proper grammar are flooding back into my memory right now.


  66. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    missmolly,
    You Leftists are racist.
    That’s why you hate Florida Cubans as they were Hispanics who didn’t subscribe to Leftist belief that non whites are helpless and need the White man’s help to succeed.
    Hispanics in Florida live better than the ones in NY who are bascically slaves to Whites and Jews!


  67. GOP Says:

    61. He has every right to march in lock step with the far right, he was appointed by a President that won more votes (2004) than any other President in American history. Sorry, but America keep electing presidents like W to appoint rightwing cabinet members. I’m so sorry your pathetic Democrat party can’t figure out how to nominate people that can win, it looks like you guys are bound to lose again in ‘08 with Barry Hussein or “fatally flawed” Hillary as your nominees—both are so unelectable.


  68. isis Says:

    Amazing how worried Liberals are about what others will say……

    Comment by why — August 28, 2007

    BOO HOO HOO, Ms/Mr. Why!! Cry yourself into oblivion now….All you have left in your sympathy box now is to try to castigate liberals. It’s a shame that you have nothing left to spin postively these days, isn’t it? Thank the Bush Cabal for that, mon dieu!


  69. GSD Says:

    Of course Republicans pick on Hillary Clinton, James Clyburn, Maxine Waters, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Barney Frank, Joycelyn Elders, Ron Brown, Robert Menendez, Bill Richardson because they hate gays, Blacks and Latinos.

    Colin Powell was run out of Bush’s Whitehouse because he wasn’t in lockstep thought with The Decider.

    -GSD


  70. criticalthinker Says:

    It is EASY to spot ENGLISH abuse because Americans are required to take an English course every year thru high school.

    But it is HARD to spot SCIENCE abuse because Americans are not required to take a Science course every year thru high school.

    Just as people pointed out these EASY to spot errors in Alberto’s letter, other people are pointing out the HARD to spot errors in the offical 9-11 lie.

    So instead of “talking” about UNIMPORTANT ENGLISH errors like this, why are we not “yelling” about IMPORTANT SCIENCE errors like how concrete does not just turn into a fine powder and throw a pyroclastic cloud up in the air simply by being put under too much COMPRESSION FORCE?

    http://www.ce.ufl.edu/ activities/ cdrom/ civil/ concrete.html


  71. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    Leftists hate self thinking Hispanics that don’t subscribe to the “I’m helpless ideology”.
    Heck they don’t even teach that Imperial Spain had White Europe under it’s boot in the 1500’s.
    The Left, the real Leftists!


  72. why Says:

    “Liberals can’t stand minorities that don’t subscribe to their ideology.”

    Comment by why — August 28, 2007 @ 10:09 am

    I think a better way of putting that is “Liberals have a problem with any appointee who marches in lockstep with the far right — regardless of race or ethnicity.” We don’t discriminate. We will attack anyone who is merely a shill for this corrupt administration.

    Comment by missmolly — August 28, 2007 @ 10:14 am

    No, a better way of putting it is that Liberals have a problem with anyone that doesn’t subscribe to their Liberal ideology. I agree that you will not care about their race, color or creed.

    You will hate them because they don’t subscribe to YOUR Liberal ideology.

    But the fact remains that if it would have been a Conservative Blog, a Conservative newspaper, a Conservative radio host who made fun of a Liberal minority in a Democratic administration the left would be going crazy and calling it racism.

    so, what is good for the gander is good for the goose.

    The FACT is that Democrats and Liberals love to attack minorities that do not subscribe to the Liberal ideology.

    They will throw at them terms like Uncle Tom, Aunt Jemima, House ni….er….etc, etc.

    to deny this is to be a pathetic Liberal liar.


  73. O. Bigfoot Says:

    Wow, it really doesn’t take much to get the lefties a’bitchin, does it?


  74. upright left Says:

    Stupid is as Stupid does! It has nothing to do with race, sex, or creed.

    Comment by isis — August 28, 2007 @ 10:11 am

    So those who make this mistake are stupid? How about this post?

    “And yes, Clinton did it too — he frequently said “the difference between President Bush and I” during the 1992 campaign, causing me to grit my teeth each time he did so.”
    Comment by missmolly — August 28, 2007 @ 9:57 am

    By most accounts, Clinton is a very intelligent man. ;)


  75. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    GSD,
    JUst like Democrats pick on Alberto Gonzales, Sen Mel Martinez, Clarence Thomas and Florida Hispanics!

    They also treat NY Ricans and Cali Mexican as their serfs who must do their master’s bidding!


  76. why Says:

    BOO HOO HOO, Ms/Mr. Why!! Cry yourself into oblivion now….All you have left in your sympathy box now is to try to castigate liberals. It’s a shame that you have nothing left to spin postively these days, isn’t it? Thank the Bush Cabal for that, mon dieu!

    Comment by isis — August 28, 2007 @ 10:19 am

    Quite the hateful little Liberal aren’t you. I can assure you that I have much to rejoice and be happy about with Bush on the helm.

    It is you the one spewing hatred and venom at those you disagree with.


  77. Menehune Says:

    Oh come on. This is pretty WEAK. There are enough real things to hurl at Gonzo without harping on something so stupid.


  78. GSD Says:

    That is why the Republican presidential field is chock full of white males.

    The Democrats have whites, Blacks and Latinos running for president.

    But the truth really doesn’t matter.

    Hey Bush Trolls, turn on Rush Limbaugh so he can ridicule African-Americans by telling them to “take the bone out of their nose” or his incessant attacks on Rev. Jacksonnnnnn….

    The Republican Party has run on fear of Blacks and Latinos for decades. Now they see a demographic apocalypse coming their way and they know they are stuck being a party of white Southerners.

    -GSD


  79. Hereindc Says:

    I too have problems with grammer….

    Is widestance one word or two?

    Such as….

    “Larry Craig, Republican Senator of Idaho, denied any lewd intentions and told police he has a “wide stance” in the bathroom and reached down to pick up a piece of paper from the floor.”


  80. why Says:

    Leftists hate self thinking Hispanics that don’t subscribe to the “I’m helpless ideology”.
    Heck they don’t even teach that Imperial Spain had White Europe under it’s boot in the 1500’s.
    The Left, the real Leftists!

    Comment by Almight Latin King Nation — August 28, 2007 @ 10:20 am

    Estas en lo correcto mi amigo! Liberals will never, ever pardon a minority that is a Conservative, a Republican.

    The Liberal mind is incapable of understanding and reasoning why a minority would ever want to be a Conservative, a Republican.


  81. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    GSD,
    “That is why the Republican presidential field is chock full of white males.”

    Not true.
    Rusy is Sicilian.
    Italians and Sicilians aren’t white.
    They’re Latino also.
    Spanish and Italian are very close languages.
    Again Leftist ignorance is amazing!


  82. troqua Says:

    lmao, Herindc! Don’t get me started again. The “wide stance” defense just had me rolling last night.

    And, eww, who picks up random pieces of toilet paper off a public bathroom floor?


  83. GSD Says:

    Between Sen. Craig and Congressman Mark Foley, the Republicans are making moves into the gay community though.

    -GSD


  84. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    “The Republican Party has run on fear of Blacks and Latinos for decades”

    So why do Hispanics in Florida and Texas vote Republican?

    Maybe because they know that the Democratic Party are racist slime that want us to be your little serfs and have our hands out for assistance?

    The Leftist version of Whiteman’s burden!


  85. GSD Says:

    Holy moley.

    Rudy Giuliani is now a LATINO?

    Jeebus, that is the funniest thing I have heard in the last 4 years.

    -GSD


  86. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    GSD

    Answer my point.
    How are Italinas White when they’re Latin?
    Exlain?


  87. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    GSD,
    What language did the Romans speak?
    What did the Roman call themselves?


  88. why Says:

    That is why the Republican presidential field is chock full of white males.

    The Democrats have whites, Blacks and Latinos running for president.

    But the truth really doesn’t matter.

    Hey Bush Trolls, turn on Rush Limbaugh so he can ridicule African-Americans by telling them to “take the bone out of their nose” or his incessant attacks on Rev. Jacksonnnnnn….

    The Republican Party has run on fear of Blacks and Latinos for decades. Now they see a demographic apocalypse coming their way and they know they are stuck being a party of white Southerners.

    -GSD

    Comment by GSD — August 28, 2007 @ 10:22 am

    hELLO!!!! that is why more Latinos voted for President Bush in 2004 than for John Kerry???!!!

    get a clue.

    Latinos don’t vote in blocks like other minorities.

    and sorry, Democrats do not have a Latino running for the Presidency, of course unless you tell us all now that Hillary Clinton has some Hispanic in her.

    and if you think that Barack Obama is the type of black that knows the ghettos that knows the black plight in America, you are a bigger fool than you have proven to be so far.

    Obama might be somewhat black in skin color, but he doesn’t have a clue about the life of a black person in America.

    oh and talking about insulting blacks….I am sure you were outraged when the Liberal LA Times called Barack Obama the Democratic party, the Liberals “Magic Negro”, right?


  89. upright left Says:

    The Republican Party has run on fear of Blacks and Latinos for decades. Now they see a demographic apocalypse coming their way and they know they are stuck being a party of white Southerners.

    -GSD

    Comment by GSD — August 28, 2007 @ 10:22 am

    In my red area of my red state, I’m seeing minorities who have good jobs, nice homes, and investments that they want to protect. They want their children to go to good local schools, not the school that needs them to balance their enrollment. These minorities also realize that conservatives, present administration excepted, generally have policies that are most conducive to their needs and desires. ;)


  90. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    Rusy is Sicilain.
    Sicily was controlled by Aragon then a United Spain for over 600 years.
    Do you know anything about Imperial Spanish history?

    Argentinians are mostly Italian, did you know that?


  91. hacker bob Says:

    All this over a stupid, common grammar mistake.

    Amazing……


  92. criticalthinker Says:

    I’m so sorry your pathetic Democrat party can’t figure out how to nominate people that can win, it looks like you guys are bound to lose again in ‘08 with Barry Hussein or “fatally flawed” Hillary as your nominees—both are so unelectable.

    Comment by GOP — August 28, 2007 @ 10:18 am

    I am a Democrat and I agree with your comment, because it is true!

    Given that the president is not elected by popular vote and the Republicans have perfected the art of stealing elections.

    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/08/04/2976/

    It ain’t rocket science, what do former Democratic presidents Johnson, Carter, and Clinton all have in common?

    If my “pathetic” Democratic party does not nominate John Edwards (whom I personally dislike!) a southern white male, they will WIN the 2008 popular vote but LOSE the 2008 electoral vote!


  93. Hereindc Says:

    Seems there are lots of errors in the news.

    Isn’t it more politically correct to say Depends instead of diapers?

    such as….

    “When Republican Senator David Vitter rented prostitutes back home in New Orleans, there was “more than sex” — he liked the hookers to make him wear diapers.”


  94. why Says:

    GSD

    Answer my point.
    How are Italinas White when they’re Latin?
    Exlain?

    Comment by Almight Latin King Nation — August 28, 2007 @ 10:27 am

    Almight Latin King Nation, most Liberals aren’t educated enough to know that a person that is born in a nation that speaks a Romance language is a true Latino. They are stuck in their racist definition of a Latino. Romanians, French, Italians, Portuguese, Spaniards, all of Latin Americans, these are the true Latinos. But try to get an uneducated Liberal to understand this.

    GSD is your typical Liberal racist that has zero clue to what he is talking about.


  95. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    GSD,
    You’re an ignoranyt Anglo that knows nothing about what Latins are.
    Read some history then come back and discuss about my people.
    You’re dismissed cracker!


  96. troqua Says:

    and sorry, Democrats do not have a Latino running for the Presidency
    Comment by why — August 28, 2007

    That’s going to come as a big surprise to Bill Richardson.


  97. GSD Says:

    Fact slap-down on a troll called Why.

    Why said:

    “and sorry, Democrats do not have a Latino running for the Presidency, of course unless you tell us all now that Hillary Clinton has some Hispanic in her.”

    William Blaine Richardson III was born in Pasadena, California. His mother, María Luisa López-Collada Márquez[2], is Mexican. His father, William Blaine Richardson Jr., was a naturalized American (being the son of an American father and Mexican mother)[3] banker who grew up in Nicaragua.

    That of course makes New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson a Democrat and of Latino descent.

    -GSD


  98. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    “Romanians, French, Italians, Portuguese, Spaniards, all of Latin Americans, these are the true Latinos.”

    Thank you!
    Exactly Latin isn’t a race but a group of people that share language and culture!
    we are mixed with many natiuons!
    It’s funny it seems that Conservatives know what Latins are but Leftists don’t!
    Ha ha!


  99. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    GSD,
    Bill Richardson is on;y 1/2 Latin.
    Rudy is more Latin than he is!


  100. GSD Says:

    I live in NH. I will make sure to stop Rudy Giuliani and tell him that he’s a Latino.

    Then he’ll turn red in the face and yell at me.

    Jeebus, no wonder the Republican Party is bleeding voters. They can’t even be honest about ethnicity.

    -GSD


  101. why Says:

    Fact slap-down on a troll called Why.

    Why said:

    “and sorry, Democrats do not have a Latino running for the Presidency, of course unless you tell us all now that Hillary Clinton has some Hispanic in her.”

    William Blaine Richardson III was born in Pasadena, California. His mother, María Luisa López-Collada Márquez[2], is Mexican. His father, William Blaine Richardson Jr., was a naturalized American (being the son of an American father and Mexican mother)[3] banker who grew up in Nicaragua.

    That of course makes New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson a Democrat and of Latino descent.

    -GSD

    Comment by GSD — August 28, 2007 @ 10:34 am

    hahahahaha!!!! wait, wait, Bill Richardson is a Latino, but Guliani is not? hahahahaha!!!

    the great igorance that is so abound on the left. hahahaha!!!

    Either bill Richardson is as white as Guliani or both are Latino. Can’t have it both ways Liberals.

    I know, I know, you guys like to group us Latinos into one little nice box that you can understand.

    incrediblel the amount of ignorance on the left.

    pobres, pobres…..que lastima


  102. E_I Says:

    If you ever want to know whether to use ‘I’ or ‘me,’ drop the other person from the sentence and read with just ‘I’ or ‘me.’


  103. katy Says:

    More on Gonzales’s Resignation
    By Mike Nizza
    Tags: law, washington

    Following are some interesting nuggets within today’s eruption of news articles on Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’s resignation.
    […]
    http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/ 2007/ 08/ 28/ more-on-gonzaless-resignation/

    .


  104. why Says:

    and sorry, Democrats do not have a Latino running for the Presidency
    Comment by why — August 28, 2007

    That’s going to come as a big surprise to Bill Richardson.

    Comment by troqua — August 28, 2007 @ 10:33 am

    This is like saying that Barack Obama is black.

    1) He has more white in him than most blacks in America.

    2) He has no clue to the black plight in America.

    3) Bill Richardson is as Latin as Guliani. Or they are both whites.

    4) Liberals love to group people into nice little boxes, why?


  105. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    GSD,
    You ignorant fool.
    How is a Spaniard Latin, but not Italians?
    Did not the Latin language and culture come from Rome?
    Also I know plenty of Cubans, Spaniards and Colombians who are Whiter than Italians.
    Why are they people of color, yet a Mulato looking Sicilian or Napolitan is White.
    Ex[plain genious?


  106. mparker Says:

    There are a whole lot of dumb trolls pukin stupid all over this blog.

    That’s a good sign. The desperation of stupidity.

    Keep trying to convince the world that Bush “cares” about minorities or anyone else for that matter.

    Go ahead morons.

    Take as much time as you need.

    I’ll keep laughing.

    And aren’t the latin kings a bunch of murdering thugs?

    Yeah they are.


  107. GSD Says:

    I would like any of these trolls to produce any document, any iota of evidence that states Rudy Giuliani is a Latino.

    I can find proof that he’s a drag queen, but none that he is Latino.

    Please smoke some more Rove p*nis folks, you are getting dumber by the minute.

    -GSD


  108. troqua Says:

    This is like saying that Barack Obama is black.
    Comment by why — August 28, 2007

    Wow. Sorry for questioning your intelligence. Please, carry on.


  109. Almight Latiun King Nation Says:

    mparker,
    No we are not.
    We are Latin self help groupo based on self reliance, self respect and Latin unity.
    We have members that are Latin American, Spaniard, Portuguese, Italian and even Filipino.
    One God, One Empire!


  110. why Says:

    I live in NH. I will make sure to stop Rudy Giuliani and tell him that he’s a Latino.

    Then he’ll turn red in the face and yell at me.

    Jeebus, no wonder the Republican Party is bleeding voters. They can’t even be honest about ethnicity.

    -GSD

    Comment by GSD — August 28, 2007 @ 10:36 am

    ahhhh….stuck on the racist Liberal definition of a Latino aren’t you….sad, sad.

    Please my friend, una educacion te vendria bien. Get an education and stop spewing the racist Liberal comments that you have been making.

    Get out of the racist definition of what a Latino is. A definition which was made by a Liberal administration during the 1960s.

    Latino (obviously the word Latino comes from the world Latin which refers to the Latin language spoken by the Romans) is anyone that is born in a country that speaks a Romance Language. Romance language obviously refers to any language that directly has Latin as its parent language.

    what happened, your Liberal professors didn’t teach you this in college? oops and you thought you got an education, right? better ask for your money back.


  111. GSD Says:

    4) Liberals love to group people into nice little boxes, why?

    Comment by why — August 28, 2007 @ 10:39 am

    Funny stuff from a clown that has been spending the last 1/2 an hour talking about race and ethnicity and claiming that Rudy Giuliani is Latino.

    Jeebus, Mparker, if this is the best minds left in the Republican Party, they are down to the bottom of the barrel.

    All Hail Rudy Giuliani, the newly minted Latin King!

    Funny stuff.

    -GSD


  112. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    GSD,
    So Italians are Anglo Saxon?
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

    So Italinasn born in Argentina or Cuba are Latin, but not Italians born here?
    I guess White paint fell on them ha!


  113. Wilco Says:

    Latino (obviously the word Latino comes from the world Latin which refers to the Latin language spoken by the Romans) is anyone that is born in a country that speaks a Romance Language

    So Rudy isn’t latino as he was born in the US. So Rudy is German, as is everyone born in the US, and therefore white. Since the English language is a Germanic language.


  114. GSD Says:

    I gotta go an get into an argument with some 7 year olds. I need the intellectual stimulation.

    -GSD


  115. why Says:

    This is like saying that Barack Obama is black.
    Comment by why — August 28, 2007

    Wow. Sorry for questioning your intelligence. Please, carry on.

    Comment by troqua — August 28, 2007 @ 10:42 am

    Barack Obama is as black as he is white. I am sure you know that he is 1/2 white, right?

    and you have to be joking if you believe that he is a person that knows the plight of blacks in America.

    Barack Obama was born witha golden spoon in his mouth.

    but according to what Liberals have been saying about Bush, Obama should not be embraced by the Liberals. I mean Obama did cocain, marijuana, was an alcoholic.

    geez, didn’t the Liberals preach day in and day out that Bush shouldn’t be a President because he was an alcoholic, allegedly did drugs?

    oh wait, the Liberal rules only apply to the Republicans, not their Democratic gods. ooops, my bad.


  116. missmolly Says:

    “He has every right to march in lock step with the far right, he was appointed by a President that won more votes (2004) than any other President in American history. Sorry, but America keep electing presidents like W to appoint rightwing cabinet members. I’m so sorry your pathetic Democrat party can’t figure out how to nominate people that can win, it looks like you guys are bound to lose again in ‘08 with Barry Hussein or “fatally flawed” Hillary as your nominees—both are so unelectable.”

    Comment by GOP — August 28, 2007 @ 10:18 am

    OK, I just can’t resist responding to some of the absurdities here.

    First — “won more votes (2004) than any other President in American history”. Is THIS how you are spinning it now? Using this logic, we can also say that in 2004 Dubya had more people voting AGAINST him than any other winning presidential candidate in American history. All this says is that more people VOTED in the 2004 election than in any other presidential election in American history.

    Second — No matter how many votes the president got, Congress can still confirm or not confirm his appointees. And any appointee who is merely a bootlicker for the president won’t get any votes purely for that. If America truly wanted Bush to be surrounded by a phalanx of yes-men, then they would have voted for Bush sycophants as their representatives and senators.

    Third — Obviously our candidates must be pretty good if the worst thing you can say about Barack Obama is to call him “Barry Hussein” and the worst thing you can say about HC is to call her “fatally flawed” with no explanation why.


  117. why Says:

    Latino (obviously the word Latino comes from the world Latin which refers to the Latin language spoken by the Romans) is anyone that is born in a country that speaks a Romance Language

    So Rudy isn’t latino as he was born in the US. So Rudy is German, as is everyone born in the US, and therefore white. Since the English language is a Germanic language.

    Comment by Wilco — August 28, 2007 @ 10:47 am

    Well then, if we use your argument, Wilco, Bill Richardson is NOT a Latino, he is white, right?

    I will agree that Rudy is not of Latin decent if you and all lthe other LIberals agree that Bill Richardson is not a Latino, ok? agreed?


  118. troqua Says:

    Obama was an alcoholic? Link please.


  119. GSD Says:

    Bill Richardson, Hispanic descent.

    -GSD

    P.S. US home sales drop to their lowest in 20 years.

    Bush’s reverse midas touch. Discuss.


  120. missmolly Says:

    geez, didn’t the Liberals preach day in and day out that Bush shouldn’t be a President because he was an alcoholic, allegedly did drugs?

    Comment by why — August 28, 2007 @ 10:49 am

    Nope — we didn’t preach that Bush shouldn’t be president because he was an alcoholic or did drugs. We said he shouldn’t be president because he was an idiot. There’s a difference.


  121. Wilco Says:

    Why, you are exactly right! But it’s not my argument, as you can see in the notes.
    The argument is from your buddy. I simply applied it to people born in Germanic-language speaking countries, such as America. If a latino is someone born in a latin-language speaking country, then it should be the same that anyone born in a germanic-language speaking country is germanic.


  122. troqua Says:

    P.S. US home sales drop to their lowest in 20 years.

    100 foreclosures a day in southern California. Communities are preparing for blight.


  123. katy Says:

    *
    Justice Department Resignation Roll Call
    By Paul Kiel - August 27, 2007, 2:42 PM
    The circle is pretty much complete at the Justice Department with Gonzales’ resignation today. Here’s a rundown of the numerous resignations over the past several months connected to the U.S. attorney firings scandal.
    […]
    http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004012.php

    check out the comments… verrry interesting…


  124. Administrator1 Says:

    The teacher in me makes me do this!

    The phrase for my family and I is a prepositional phrase. The error occurs in the case of the pronoun. I is the nominative case customarily used as the subject of the sentence or as a predicate nominative following a linking verb.

    The pronoun me is in the objective case used as direct object after a transitive verb or as the object of a preposition.

    The sentence in question has a prepositional phrase with a compound object: for my family AND me. The objective case of the pronoun is the correct one.


  125. GSD Says:

    America is about ready to face The Bush Hangover.

    Chimpanomics have fattened the rich and stretched the middle class to a breaking point.

    Congrats Chimpy. This is the end result of the 27 reign of Republic Rule in America.

    -GSD


  126. why Says:

    Bill Richardson, Hispanic descent.

    -GSD

    P.S. US home sales drop to their lowest in 20 years.

    Bush’s reverse midas touch. Discuss.

    Comment by GSD — August 28, 2007 @ 10:53 am

    So, then Guliani is also of Latin descent. You can’t have it both ways GSD.

    either both are of Latin descent, or both are white.

    and amazing, look at how you rejoice at home foreclosures. amazing how Liberals enjoy the pain of Americans.

    Isn’t amazing that bad news for America means good news for Liberals. Incredible.


  127. why Says:

    The teacher in me makes me do this!

    The phrase for my family and I is a prepositional phrase. The error occurs in the case of the pronoun. I is the nominative case customarily used as the subject of the sentence or as a predicate nominative following a linking verb.

    The pronoun me is in the objective case used as direct object after a transitive verb or as the object of a preposition.

    The sentence in question has a prepositional phrase with a compound object: for my family AND me. The objective case of the pronoun is the correct one.

    Comment by Administrator1 — August 28, 2007 @ 11:02 am

    who the heck cares about the small grammatical mistake. You find more grammatical mistakes in TP blogs than any other blog.

    and let us not forget as someone pointed out, President Clinton, many a time, made the same mistake.

    this story is ridiculous.


  128. RUCerious Says:

    Comment by troqua — August 28, 2007 @ 10:57 am

    Jumbo loans (>$417,000) not available in Seattle area per news article yesterday.
    This means that houses selling for 600,00 + must have down payments of about 200,000. Good luck with that.


  129. why Says:

    Obama was an alcoholic? Link please.

    Comment by troqua — August 28, 2007 @ 10:52 am

    read his autobiography……

    and still no one has answered to this fact.

    Using the Liberal standards, that Bush should have never been PResident because of his alcoholic problem and his alleged drug use, Barack Obama should also not be anywhere near the Presidency, right? since he is an admitted cocaine, marijuana user and an admitted alcoholic.

    but we all know that the standards that LIberals set forth for Republican politicians don’t need to be first met by Democratic politicians. isn’t this right?


  130. JoeySoCao Says:

    I bleed blue, but who the eff cares about that grammatical error?


  131. NoOneYouKnow Says:

    The difference between Obama’s drug use and the Chimp’s is that Obama’s took place when he was a very young adult, which is when he sobered up — like a lot of people. Monkey Boy, on the other hand, was snorting coke until he was 40, if not later. He was also convicted of DWI, which shows his substance abuse made him a mortal danger to others.
    Also, while Obama shows none of the psychological traits of an untreated addict, the Chimp has virtually all of them, and it’s been an open secret in D.C. that he’s fallen off the wagon again. The Republicans’ best man for the job is a drunk, and he’s putting the whole world in danger.


  132. HereinDC Says:

    “Liberals love to group people into nice little boxes, why?”

    So what box would David Vitter, Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Ted Harrard be in?

    Diaper Box?
    Only a massage box?
    Wide stance box?
    Boy Box?

    or just one big GOP Box? Gay Old Perverts Box.


  133. NoOneYouKnow Says:

    I care about the grammatical error. Abu Gonzales went to Harvard and is the nation’s top lawyer. Above anything else, lawyers use language to do their jobs. It’s telling that Gonzo can’t handle even basic grammar.


  134. katy Says:

    from the google news front page:

    Average Sat Scores Are Lowest Since 1999
    Guardian Unlimited - 45 minutes ago
    From AP By JUSTIN POPE AP Education Writer Average math and reading SAT scores fell four points for the high school class of 2007 to their lowest mark since 1999.

    SAT Averages Decline to Lowest Scores in Years Washington Post

    American Students Drop to 13-Year Low in Reading, Test Shows Bloomberg

    imagine that…


  135. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    Ok so Dark skin swarthy Italians are White and Fair skined Blue eyed Spaniards are Latin!
    Great logic racist scum!


  136. troqua Says:

    Obama was an alcoholic? Link please.

    Comment by troqua — August 28, 2007 @ 10:52 am

    read his autobiography……

    I have Dreams from My Father right here. Page please?


  137. truthfairy Says:

    the last thing this administration wants it an attorney general that can think


  138. why Says:

    The difference between Obama’s drug use and the Chimp’s is that Obama’s took place when he was a very young adult, which is when he sobered up — like a lot of people. Monkey Boy, on the other hand, was snorting coke until he was 40, if not later. He was also convicted of DWI, which shows his substance abuse made him a mortal danger to others.
    Also, while Obama shows none of the psychological traits of an untreated addict, the Chimp has virtually all of them, and it’s been an open secret in D.C. that he’s fallen off the wagon again. The Republicans’ best man for the job is a drunk, and he’s putting the whole world in danger.

    Comment by NoOneYouKnow — August 28, 2007 @ 11:19 am

    Oh, I get it….the Liberal standards dont’ apply to Democratic politicians, they only apply to Republican politicians.

    your respond is dumb, pathetic and typical of someone that only knows hypocrasy.

    Liberals=hypocrisy.

    Obama is an admitted drug addict. All you have on Bush on drugs is hearsay.

    yet you give a pass to Obama, but not to Bush. Can we say left wing looney toon? yes we can!


  139. AtticusinPa Says:

    As your third grade teacher told you, grammar is important because you must say what you mean in order to mean what you say. For example, the Bush declaration of Katrinia relief listed all of the wrong counties: those in the north and northwest of Louisiana and not Orleans, St. Bernard, Plaquemines, etc. which suffered the most harm. How does the White House issue the wrong declaration? By hiring loyalists who are incompetent and inattentive to detail. The critical parts of life are always in the details. Having an Attorney-General who is illiterate, and a staff of the A-G who cannot or will not proof read, is merely symbolic of all that is wrong with this adminstration. By this point, they do not care. And it shows.


  140. missmolly Says:

    Using the Liberal standards, that Bush should have never been PResident because of his alcoholic problem and his alleged drug use…

    Comment by why — August 28, 2007 @ 11:08 am

    Please provide some evidence that this was the official Democratic Party line. The only time any liberals used this as a talking point when Dubya was running for president was to point out the hypocrisy of the Bush supporters who once decried Clinton’s experimentation with pot.

    There were (and still are) many, many good reasons for not voting for Bush in either of his presidential campaigns. They have to do with his ideology, his stance on issues, his lack of foreign policy experience, and his lack of knowledge in general. His recreational drug use was small stuff — as long as that was behind him.


  141. why Says:

    Obama was an alcoholic? Link please.

    Comment by troqua — August 28, 2007 @ 10:52 am

    read his autobiography……

    I have Dreams from My Father right here. Page please?

    Comment by troqua — August 28, 2007 @ 11:23 am

    don’t carry this idiots autobiography…..read it and you find it.

    why are Liberals always so lazy, why? do your own homework kid.

    Liberals always wanting a free education. how truly sad.

    regardless you seem to have ignored the main point.

    Obama is an admitted heavy drug user, Bush’s drug use is based on hearsay.

    yet Liberals claimed that Bush should never have become President because of this. Yet, the left has embraced Barack Obama despite the left telling us that a drug user should never become our President.

    don’t you think it is pathetic and hypocritical that the Liberals don’t apply their moral standards to their own politicians? they only apply it to the Republicans.

    focus like a laser beam my friend and try to respond to the obvious LIberal hypocrisy on this issue.


  142. why Says:

    Using the Liberal standards, that Bush should have never been PResident because of his alcoholic problem and his alleged drug use…

    Comment by why — August 28, 2007 @ 11:08 am

    Please provide some evidence that this was the official Democratic Party line. The only time any liberals used this as a talking point when Dubya was running for president was to point out the hypocrisy of the Bush supporters who once decried Clinton’s experimentation with pot.

    There were (and still are) many, many good reasons for not voting for Bush in either of his presidential campaigns. They have to do with his ideology, his stance on issues, his lack of foreign policy experience, and his lack of knowledge in general. His recreational drug use was small stuff — as long as that was behind him.

    Comment by missmolly — August 28, 2007 @ 11:26 am

    are you joking? READ the responds that are being given about this issue by you Liberal friends.

    amazing….you must be a youngen.


  143. missmolly Says:

    Obama is an admitted drug addict. All you have on Bush on drugs is hearsay.

    Comment by why — August 28, 2007 @ 11:24 am

    If Obama is an admitted drug addict, that’s news to me. He states in his memoir that he drank alcohol and experimented with drugs as a young man. That’s not the same as being an alcoholic or a drug addict.


  144. why Says:

    I care about the grammatical error. Abu Gonzales went to Harvard and is the nation’s top lawyer. Above anything else, lawyers use language to do their jobs. It’s telling that Gonzo can’t handle even basic grammar.

    Comment by NoOneYouKnow — August 28, 2007 @ 11:20 am

    Abu Gonzalez? nice racist slur there buddy…

    Incredible how racist Liberals are…pathetic!


  145. NoOneYouKnow Says:

    From Webster’s Dictionary: “1. A native or resident of Latin America. 2. A person of Hispanic, esp. Latin-American, descent, often one living in the United States.”
    Rudy’s not Latino.


  146. NoOneYouKnow Says:

    Okay. Using your best wingnut logic, please explain exactly how “Abu Gonzalez” is racist.


  147. missmolly Says:

    Obama was an alcoholic? Link please.

    Comment by troqua — August 28, 2007 @ 10:52 am

    read his autobiography……

    I have Dreams from My Father right here. Page please?

    Comment by troqua — August 28, 2007 @ 11:23 am

    don’t carry this idiots autobiography…..read it and you find it.

    why are Liberals always so lazy, why? do your own homework kid.

    Comment by why — August 28, 2007 @ 11:27 am

    ———————————————-

    It’s so obvious that “why” can’t provide any evidence to back up his own arguments. He pulls his “facts” out of his a$$ and then when challenged, he tells people to look up their own evidence.

    This troll is broken — we need a new one, please?


  148. truthfairy Says:

    141 is very uptight


  149. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    NoOneYouKnow,
    Wrong!
    Latino is used wrong in the United States.
    Latino is then Spanish form of Latin.
    Latins are Italians/Spanirds/Portugues and LATIN Americans!

    Question genuis,
    Why do French Canadians call themselves Latins?

    Latino is made up category done by Leftists to divide the Latin population in America.
    Latino isn’t even a word in the English language!
    It’s a political word.
    Dismissed loser!


  150. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    Italians are Latin you idiots!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_people

    “The Central portion of the Italian peninsula was settled by the Etruscans and Latin peoples.”


  151. alp3 Says:

    wow.

    The trolls hopped on this thread like white on rice.


  152. why Says:

    Ok so Dark skin swarthy Italians are White and Fair skined Blue eyed Spaniards are Latin!
    Great logic racist scum!

    Comment by Almight Latin King Nation — August 28, 2007 @ 11:23 am

    LIberals are the most racist creatures on planet Earth. The sad part is that they believe to be such great open minded, tolerant people.

    Tolerance and open minded for Liberals=a Liberal Latino, a Liberal black, a Liberal Asian, a Liberal white, a Liberal Muslim…..you get the picture.

    Liberals=racist


  153. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/

    “The dialects of modern Italian all have their roots in the spoken form of Latin (Vulgar Latin), in use throughout the Roman Empire.”


  154. truthfairy Says:

    a reply to 147…….liberals arent lazy, they just dont go around stealing everything that isnt nailed down, but hey i don expect you to understand that concept, your screen name suggests you dont know what you are doing


  155. katy Says:


    what kind of word is “almight”?


  156. why Says:

    It’s so obvious that “why” can’t provide any evidence to back up his own arguments. He pulls his “facts” out of his a$$ and then when challenged, he tells people to look up their own evidence.

    This troll is broken — we need a new one, please?

    Comment by missmolly — August 28, 2007 @ 11:33 am

    if it helps you to sleep at night to believe your own crap. Don’t confuse me with the writers of TP and the rest of the crazed out left wingers.

    stop projecting who you are unto others.


  157. why Says:

    From Webster’s Dictionary: “1. A native or resident of Latin America. 2. A person of Hispanic, esp. Latin-American, descent, often one living in the United States.”
    Rudy’s not Latino.

    Comment by NoOneYouKnow — August 28, 2007 @ 11:30 am

    Rudy is of Latin descent you moron!!

    wow, poor Liberals, so brainwashed by Liberalism that they can’t see beyond it.

    sad, sad!!

    Liberal=stupidity


  158. GSD Says:

    Rudy Giuliani, noted Latino!

    Jeebus, that is funny.

    The poor GOoPers have to make up ethnic diversity for their presidential field because it is only full of caucasion males.

    Sad and a little funny.

    -GSD


  159. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    http://www.thenitmustbetrue.com/ gsantaolalla/ gsantaolalla1.html

    “Well, it has to do with our Hispanic heritage, you know our Latin heritage? Latin in a wider sense than what people here say? Latin, they think congas or mariachi hats. (Laughs) But Romanians are Latins, too you know? French are Latins and Italians are Latin. A big portion of Aregentinians let’s say the majority are a mixture of Spanish backgrounds and Italian backgrounds. My parents were Aregentinians; they were kids from Italians or Spanish.”


  160. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    GSD,
    So Italinas aren’t Latin?
    Answer my question smarty.
    Why are Spanirds Latin and Italians Anglo when they both speak similair languages and look similiar?
    Please explain?

    Y0ou can’t because you ignorant and racis.
    Giullinai is not Anglo.
    He’s Latin!


  161. DRxJ Says:

    Notice how the trolls shy away from threads like Senator Craig, but are in a feeding frenzy over this thread.
    Why?
    Good question.
    I feel it’s because while a critique of a Harvard graduate’s grammar (and soon to be ex-Attorney General, for gawds sake)in an official White House resignation letter is justifiable, the trolling sharks can not stand any criticism of this administration, and will defend them until the bitter end.
    But when there is no defense of a situation, they hide like the little moles that they are.
    Thus the 150+ posts here, yet unusually quiet on the others.


  162. alp3 Says:

    ehhh… i don’t mean to nit pick. especially in this particular thread, but
    shouldn’t it be …

    Almight(y) Latin King Nation?


  163. why Says:

    There were (and still are) many, many good reasons for not voting for Bush in either of his presidential campaigns. They have to do with his ideology, his stance on issues, his lack of foreign policy experience, and his lack of knowledge in general. His recreational drug use was small stuff — as long as that was behind him.

    Comment by missmolly — August 28, 2007 @ 11:26 am

    his lack of foreign policy experience? care to tell me what foreign policy experience Obama has? oh wait, since the Liberal media has not made fun of Obama’s lack of foreign policy experience you don’t know he doesn’t have any foreign policy experience.

    Bush’s ideology? millions would vote for him for his ideology. It is YOUR personal believe that his ideology is flawed, since he is not a Liberal.

    His lack of knowledge? says who, Airhead America, TP, HuffanPuff Post, Democratic Underground, CNN, MSNBC….please, please!!!

    You know, it is amazing how little history Liberals know. I am sure that all of you are aware that when Gen. Ike ran for the Presidency in the 1950s, Liberals used the same “Ike is an Idiot therefore shouldn’t be President” mantra.

    For Liberals there hasn’t been a smart Republicans President, ever.

    You are using age old political tactics that the Liberal political machine has been using for decades. You are spewing Liberal talking points. try to think on your own.

    Liberals also claimed that Reagan, Ike etc would be considered the worst Presidents in american history. Well, Liberals better check since history doesn’t agree with what Liberals said when these were Presidents.


  164. Almight Latin King Nation Says:

    http://www.discovervancouver.com/ forum/ topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=97799&whichpage=5

    ” am Italian-American and let me tell you Italians are “Latin”, dumbasses. (Don’t believe me ask German-Americans, British-Americans, and Irish-Americans, they think Italians are Latin) We invented the Latin language and Latin culture, the only true Latinos are of majority or full Italian, Spanish, or Portuguese.”


  165. GSD Says:

    Noted Latino NY Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

    Jaysus, that is funny.

    Soon we’ll be hearing about African-American president George W. Bush.

    -GSD


  166. why Says:

    Notice how the trolls shy away from threads like Senator Craig, but are in a feeding frenzy over this thread.
    Why?
    Good question.
    I feel it’s because while a critique of a Harvard graduate’s grammar (and soon to be ex-Attorney General, for gawds sake)in an official White House resignation letter is justifiable, the trolling sharks can not stand any criticism of this administration, and will defend them until the bitter end.
    But when there is no defense of a situation, they hide like the little moles that they are.
    Thus the 150+ posts here, yet unusually quiet on the others.

    Comment by DRxJ — August 28, 2007 @ 11:45 am

    hmmmm…..haven’t you notice that Liberals are also in here? of course not-hypocrite.

    as for Sen. Craig, he is just acting like any San Francisco Liberal homosexual would act. Why are you attacking him? attacking him would be attacking any and all Liberal homosexuals in San Francisco.

    I am sure that you are aware how Sen. Craig was caught, right?

    Homosexuals had been using the airport bathroom to rape other men, to have homosexual sex. You know all the actions you Liberals embrace. Thus, the airport had to creatae a special task for to catch homosexuals in the act in the airport bathroom.

    so, once again, why are you attacking Sen. Craig for actions that are embraced by Liberals. Or is homosexuality now wrong when a Republican Sen. does it? hypocrite.


  167. shane Says:

    This is not much of a topic and yet the trolls are here drooling more than a rabid dogs. What’s up guys, you having some kind of troll contest today? And Joker, take your meds.


  168. Almighty Latin King Nation Says:

    why,
    As a Latin who lived in NY for many years the most racist vile people I ver met were Jewish, Iraish and WASP Democrats.
    Their ignorancew as to what atins are and how they played off Italians and Hispanics against each othetr sickened me.
    If NYC was nuked I would cheer!


  169. why Says:

    Noted Latino NY Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

    Jaysus, that is funny.

    Soon we’ll be hearing about African-American president George W. Bush.

    -GSD

    Comment by GSD — August 28, 2007 @ 11:48 am

    You moron, Rudy Giuliani is for Latin descent, as much as Bill Richardson.

    you are just too ignorant and uneducated to understand this.

    Listen, just because your Liberal professors didn’t teach you what Latin is and means, it doesn’t mean that King nation is wrong. It means you are wrong.

    poor Liberals just lack of education. sad, truly sad.


  170. Almighty Latin King Nation Says:

    shane,
    Are Italinas Anglo or Latin.
    Answer please?


  171. bboop Says:

    Coming from a family of lawyers and judges, I can assure you that ‘legal beagles’ are extremely versant in the correct