Petraeus ‘Softened’ Intelligence Community’s Judgments About State Of Iraq Violence
Petraeus ‘Softened’ Intelligence Community’s Judgments About State Of Iraq Violence
The Washington Post reports that Gen. David Petraeus, after reviewing an early draft of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, succeeded in altering the document’s judgments about the violence in Iraq:
The NIE, requested by the White House Iraq coordinator, Lt. Gen. Douglas E. Lute, in preparation for the testimony, met with resistance from U.S. military officials in Baghdad, according to a senior U.S. military intelligence officer there. Presented with a draft of the conclusions, Petraeus succeeded in having the security judgments softened to reflect improvements in recent months, the official said.
The first line of the key judgments of the NIE reported that there had been “measurable but uneven improvements in Iraq’s security situation,” but cautioned that violence will remain high over the next six to 12 months. The Washington Post’s report today suggests that the intelligence community’s initial judgment about the security situation was harsher.
Petraeus and other military officials have repeatedly suggested that sectarian killings in Iraq are down, touting the decline as proof of security progress in Iraq. Media reports, however, dispute the military claims, and the military has thus far refused to provide its statistics to resolve the matter:
U.S. officials say the number of civilian casualties in the Iraqi capital is down 50 percent. But U.S. officials declined to provide specific numbers, and statistics gathered by McClatchy Newspapers don’t support the claim. [McClatchy, 8/15/07]
[T]he death toll from sectarian attacks around the country is running nearly double the pace from a year ago. … Brig. Gen. Richard Sherlock, deputy director for operational planning for the Pentagon’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, said violence in Iraq “has continued to decline and is at the lowest level since June 2006.” He offered no statistics to back his claim. [AP, 8/25/07]
Rep. Tom Davis (R-VA) suggested recently that the White House would “tweak” the upcoming “Petraeus report.” But if Petraeus is so willing to alter intelligence findings, it appears the White House may not have much tweaking to do.
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Yesterday was finally a good day, with even the trolls speechless. September will bring renewed Democratic capitulation and the surge will go on. Enjoy this week, because we have a hard road ahead.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:21 amSunnis sceptical about Iraq deal
Some key Sunni figures on Monday dismissed the agreement as a stalling tactic by al-Maliki to ease pressure from Washington.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:23 amDon’t forget to mention the WMD’s general.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:24 amPetreus’s report will be nothing more than “lies, lies, and more lies”!
August 28th, 2007 at 10:25 amnext six to 12 months > you have the intention in this line alone, bush is staying till out of office
August 28th, 2007 at 10:25 amit appears the White House may not have much tweaking to do.
So the White House is doing meth now?
August 28th, 2007 at 10:25 amPetraeus ‘Softened’ Intelligence Community’s Judgments About State Of Iraq Violence
Did he also carry a big stick?
August 28th, 2007 at 10:26 amWell put Menehune.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:26 amBush: A Legacy of Lies
LIES, whole LIES, and nothing but LIES.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:27 amAs if Petreaus sat down at his desk and simply crossed out the bits he didnt like. The man is the top general, he has advisors and staff of his own to access for advice and opinion on issues like this.
So there ya go, and its not as if you would have believed anything Petreaus would have said anyway; this report was dead to the dems the day he took command.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:27 amComment by RUCerious — August 28, 2007 @ 10:25 am
That explains a lot.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:27 amIt’s time for Congress to shut this nightmare down. It’s time for the people to begin taking notes on who supports the contination of this debacle which is draining this country of all of it’s resources - not to mention the reprehensible and insane loss of lives of some of the most patriotic in this country. This has become a nightmare of the highest order. THIS will be Bush’s legacy - the loss of 4,000+ lives for oil. It has nothing to do with democracy and never did. It’s all been a total Repuke charade.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:28 amSo Petraeus is injecting politics into his report even before it gets to the White House and there are millions of dollars worth of guns and material unaccounted for in Iraq which he is responsible for.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:29 amNope…nothing going on there….nope.
There ya go, witness #4: “lies lies lies”; opined upon before the report is even issued. Dead in the water before the first sentence was written.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:29 amPetreus is a “shill” - nothing more than a “Bush Shill”. What’s more, EVERYONE knows it.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:29 amIt’s time for the people to press for what needs to be done and what should have been done long ago - IMPEACH BUSH AND CHENEY and then hold them accountable to the people for war crimes.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:29 amWhy do you think Congress is getting such bad marks? It’s because the people KNOW unequivocally that this administration is nothing more than a fraudulent act of “smoke & mirrors” - a sham - a disgrace. If Congress fails to take action against Bush & Cheney now, they will all be put out of office by the people.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:31 amIt’s time for Congress to shut this nightmare down.
Then you better start knocking on some dem doors as they dont seem to be working very hard to get it stopped, and dont give me any shat about obstruction.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:31 amWe’ve become an “international joke” at this point. Internationally, we can no longer afford to allow this Bush comedy team to continue to tank us economically, militarily, and now reputationally….It’s over for Bush & Co. and they need to be impeached immediately.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:31 amPillow: Methinks that some “deal was struck” by Bushco and Congress but the people will have none of it. The People will continue to press for impeachment - nothing’s changed. If the Dems fail to heed the wishes of the people, they, too, will find themselves run out of office when their terms expire. The people mean business now and will not be satisfied until we clean up this mess which Bush & Co has foist upon us.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:33 amWhy do you think that none of the Dem candidates is enjoying an overwhelming majority? Because none of them have the balls to do what is necessary and “oust” Team Bush for their dirtywork??
August 28th, 2007 at 10:34 amThey can “cut deals” until the cows come home but it won’t satisfy the people in pursuit of doing what is right and just.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:35 amI’d have to speculate that the hurried departure of Gonzo and Rove signals that there is something much larger now on Bush’s radar screen….something which threatens to take them all down the proverbial tubes. Gonzo and Rove didn’t leave of their own accord, that’s patently clear. There’s more….much more to come. It’s time for the Dems to capitalize on this feeding frenzy and get to the root of the evil: Bush and Cheney.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:37 amWas sure nice yesterday afternoon, driving thru Bellevue, WA around 3:30, seeing five or six bush protesters to each bush supporter. I hope that everywhere the chymp travels over the next year and a half, people come out to condemn his failed presidency.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:38 amPillow: This “house of cards” is falling down of it’s own accord and right before our very eyes. It won’t be long now before there will be a congressional call for the impeachment of Cheney and Bush.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:38 amRU: What you saw is the tip of a huge iceberg of people who will now protest for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney. Clearly, their house of cards is coming tumblin’ down.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:39 amThe Bushco Reign has officially come to a conclusion. The people want more.The hurried departure of Rove and Gonzo bespeak a political party and a white house which is coming unglued. The people no longer have a shred of respect for this administration and want them “gone” now.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:41 amIt should read:
Petraeus -TOLD TO SOFTEN- Intelligence Community’s Judgments About State Of Iraq Violence
August 28th, 2007 at 10:42 amI take it you all have another 145 Billion spare
August 28th, 2007 at 10:42 amComment by isis — August 28, 2007 @ 10:38 am
YES, YES and in case you didn’t hear me the first two times, YES AGAIN!!!
May every deity everybody prays to see the impeachment to success!
August 28th, 2007 at 10:44 amNobody REALLY believes that this report expected by Petraeus in September will be an accurate assessment of conditions in Iraq. Now we find out that Patraeus has succeeded in altering the NIE’s report on Iraq. Patraeus is nothing but another Bush lackey. It’s obvious that Bush will do whatever it takes to keep the surge going indefinitely in iraq.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:44 amI don’t believe this Administration has ever had very high regard for actual facts. Fear mongering and innuendo have been much more effective.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:46 amThe departure of Rove and Gonzales signals the end of the BushCo crime spree.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:49 amMay every deity everybody prays to see the impeachment to success!
Comment by James Saville Row — August 28, 2007 @ 10:44 am
Unfortunately, my deity Crom, doesn’t give a shit about the problems of men. He’d advise us to storm the white house and take back our country ourselves, rather than waiting on a bunch of weak spined lawmakers.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:51 amEveryone knew that Congress knuckled under to the concept of Petreus’ assessment of Iraq at the end of this month. Everyone knew that it was giving BushCo another rope to hang itself….which it has done handily. The people are still extremely disgusted with the Dems in Congress for enabling the continuation of this death march in Iraq. Their actions were downright sycophantic and they all now need to be reminded that it’s the “people who pay their salaries and for whom they work”.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:52 amHi RU! Good to see you. You’re absolutely spot on with your comment above. It’s time for the people to press their ‘paid representatives’ to do what is right and wholesome at this point and impeach both Bush and Cheney.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:54 amCluster Bomb,
You are exactly right, no one will believe Patreus’ report. And why should we? This administration has destroyed the people’s faith in government. Bush and the Boyz are the biggest bunch of lying, cheating, stealing bastards that have our country has ever seen.
What is it Bush mumbles about, “Fool me once… er, er, er…”
When Patreus comes in and says , “it’s working we just need a little more time, we are making real progress” there will be a few 25%er’s that will believe him.
The 75% that see the world through facts and reality see right through the bs.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:54 amPatraeus’ report: Iran is fueling the war in Iraq; lets attack Iran. Iran is the key to stabilizing Iraq and the region.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:55 am#
Nobody REALLY believes that this report expected by Petraeus in September will be an accurate assessment of conditions in Iraq. Now we find out that Patraeus has succeeded in altering the NIE’s report on Iraq. Patraeus is nothing but another Bush lackey. It’s obvious that Bush will do whatever it takes to keep the surge going indefinitely in iraq.
Comment by W.Clements — August 28, 2007 @ 10:44 am
W. Clements: Right on! The people believe NOTHING emanating from this white house at this point. It’s become a total sham. Other governments are laughing their asses off at us for not doing what needs to be done and that is the immediate impeachment of Bush and Cheney in order to save this democracy from the charlatans within.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:55 amPetreus = Bush’s PUPPET
August 28th, 2007 at 10:56 amGen. Petraeus is helping George W. Bush destroy the US military.
-GSD
August 28th, 2007 at 10:56 amSounds like the vaunted report was never meant to be anything but propaganda to keep the war going. I don’t know what the point would be. I am still unsure why Bush and Cheney pushed so hard to invade Iraq. It is clear from Cheney’s statements in 2001 and before he knew it was going to be a mess. To the trolls, no good answer has ever been clearly described for the Iraq war. WMD’s nope didn’t have them, 9/11 wasn’t Saddam or Iraq.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:56 amAlso, in head to head match-up’s in in hard hit 9/11 New York, Hillary Clinton DESTROYS Rudy Giuliani.
Bu, but Rudy said he’d keep NY safe, even though it was attacked twice on his watch.
-GSD
August 28th, 2007 at 10:58 amEVERYONE knew that the Dems in congress were knuckling under by permitting ’sycophant petreus’ this one last parting shot. I wouldn’t want to be the individual charged with telling the parents and families of those killed during this Summer Spree of Insanity that their loved ones died in vain - in order to give this cabal of disgust a chance to save it’s reputation. It would be a tough nut to swallow if you ask me.
Now it is time - time to face the facts - and time for Congress to do the “NEXT RIGHT THING” and bring impeachment charges against Bush and Cheney.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:58 amPetraeus -TOLD TO SOFTEN- Intelligence Community’s Judgments About State Of Iraq Violence
This is precisely what’s going on in this administration of “smoke & mirrors”….softening (aka plagiarizing!) the truth.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:59 amBoy George is a petty, inadequate little man who isn’t strong enough to admit hs failure. Or any of his many failures. Soldiers are dying and our country is being bled to death to salvage the ego of a coward and punk.
And the sycophants enable it. I have more respect for a rabid hyena than the whores who still support the loser instead of our soldiers.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:00 amIt’s time (actually, it’s long overdue) for the people of this country to demand the immediate impeachment of this Cabal of Liars. It’s time for the people to save this democracy from extinction from within.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:00 amPetraeus works under Bush (Commander In Chief)..Bush can fire him ,transfer him..retire him…anytime he wishes.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:02 amSo, Patraeus report must not conflict with what Bush wants…
The suggestion that Patraeus can be indpenedent from Bush..is not realistic.
Why Bush keep saying:” leave it to the Military”? because that means ‘indirectly’ ” leave it to Bush” to write the report..
Boy George is a petty, inadequate little man who isn’t strong enough to admit hs failure. Or any of his many failures. Soldiers are dying and our country is being bled to death to salvage the ego of a coward and punk
Nanlichi: Your’re right on target!~ The people need to storm the bastille now and demand that Bush and Cheney are impeached. Other than CondiCandi who is out buying new shoes, there’s no one left and the veil of protection has been lifted. It’s been a game of dodgeball but the only two left standing are Bush and Cheney. Rice has never had any credibility in this game.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:03 amTarazan: Petreus is Bush’s SHILL - NOTHING MORE.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:04 amI take it you all have another 145 Billion spare
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 28, 2007 @ 10:42 am
Yeah, we do, in fact. China’s loaded with cash!
August 28th, 2007 at 11:05 amWhen this bogus report is introduced, the entire Congress and Country should stand up and laugh their asses off.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:05 amPetreus is becoming one sick joke…..a sick joke which even the Dems in congress knew would occur.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:06 amIm really excited about Sep 15th , just to read the foreign papers its going to be a laugh
August 28th, 2007 at 11:07 am“The suggestion that Patraeus can be indpenedent from Bush..is not realistic.”
that’s awesome news for the 150,000 american soldiers in iraq. way to support the troops.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:07 amComment by nanlichi — August 28, 2007 @ 10:54 am
That is a valid point. The administration said we had to stop Saddam because of WMD’s. They were wrong.
The administration said we would be greeted as liberators and there was no need for large amounts of military. They were wrong.
The adminstration allowed the Iraqi army to be disbanded. This is the core force of the insurgents. The administration was wrong and shortsighted here as well.
The administration has allowed an ever growing force of hired guns to be used instead of the actual military. This is not fiscally responsible, nor is it being honest with the citizens of the US and Iraq.
The report the good General will give to the president to be “tweaked” will not be a watershed moment for anyone. It will be distored by the right and vilified on the left. Largely because of the failures that have been commited by this administration long before a status report of a 5 year conflict was ever thought of.
Cluster Bomb, it’s not a partisan issue (at least with me). It’s holding this administration accountable. Something they haven’t done up til now.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:07 amWith large numbers of wounded and sick civilian contractors severely straining the U.S. military’s hospitals and clinics across Iraq, the U.S. military is considering authorizing the creation of a parallel privately-run medical care system for the 129,000 contractors on the Pentagon payroll in Iraq.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:08 amIm really excited about Sep 15th , just to read the foreign papers its going to be a laugh
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 28, 2007 @ 11:07 am
what’s happening then, tobey?
August 28th, 2007 at 11:08 ami thought the big day was sep 11…
…
A majority of Americans have already said they aren’t going to trust this report. Petraeus and the White House can “soften” and “tweak” all they want to, but the delivery of this report has already been reduced to a meaningless little dance that won’t be worth attracting any attention.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:10 amOh sep 11th then . just to see this report get shredded to pieces by the world media …….. everything about the report will be a lie
August 28th, 2007 at 11:11 amI can just see it now..
August 28th, 2007 at 11:15 amEverything’s getting better, but we are prepared for higher levels of violence if we were to withdraw. We only need a couple more Friedman units and everything’ll be great.
The Iraqi parliament is sipping tea with their falafels and making extraordinary effort and progress signing the rights to their oil away to multi-national corporations.
Just a few more dozen Friedman units and the surge will have worked.
Comment by RUCerious — August 28, 2007 @ 10:51 am
So, how does one get to meet your Crom?
August 28th, 2007 at 11:23 amTobey Tall, do you have a link to the info on the contractor medical care system? This is one of the many things the american people don’t see or care about. At least it’s not being shown by the MSM.
Our own history shows what happens when hired guns are used in a military adventure.
This is the dirty little secret that needs the covers yanked off. This needs to be thrown in the face of any and all supports of GW’s invasion and continued occupation of Iraq.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:25 ami wonder what affect this will have?
from the google news front page:
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Earthtimes.org - 55 minutes ago
Ankara - The Turkish parliament on Tuesday elected Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul as Turkey’s 11th president in a vote that has pitted staunch secularists and the ruling Islamist-rooted Justice and Development Party (AKP).
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August 28th, 2007 at 11:25 am…
The Iraqi parliament is sipping tea with their falafels and making extraordinary effort and progress signing the rights to their oil away to multi-national corporations.
Comment by RUCerious — August 28, 2007 @ 11:15 am
Tea and falafel? That doesn’t sound like a very good combination. Iced tea maybe…
August 28th, 2007 at 11:48 am“Petraeus and other military officials have repeatedly suggested that sectarian killings in Iraq are down, touting the decline as proof of security progress in Iraq.”
If sectarian killings are down (which is doubtful) is because another million Iraqi’s have left Iraq since the escalation began. That’s a million less targets. And the reason why some areas have less violence is because the areas have been “cleansed”. If a city was once Sunni and Shiite, and now it is strictly Sunni (meaning they have driven out all the Shiites) or vice versa, then it would stand to reason that the violence would go down. It has nothing to do with increased military presence.
The only thing our military is doing for Iraq is keeping the fighting going. If we leave and allow Iraq to solve their own problems, I expect that the violence will dissipate.
It will also help if we can get those people working. When you are working, you don’t have time to fight.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:49 amSo, how does one get to meet your Crom?
Comment by James Saviile Row — August 28, 2007 @ 11:23 am
If you have to ask, he doesn’t want to see you.
Or, read any of the Conan The (fill in the blank) Conqueror, Mercenary, etc.. by Robert E. Howard.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:52 amTea and falafel? That doesn’t sound like a very good combination. Iced tea maybe…
Comment by toasterhead — August 28, 2007 @ 11:48 am
I was going to go with BBQ goat, but a vision of Bill O’Biley suddenly came to mind.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:53 amI had to use a gallon of memory bleach to erase it.
Conan series, that takes me back a few years.
Violence is down because it’s frigging 130 degrees in August. It’s no accident that September would be the month for the “report”.
The violence cycles with the weather. A more valid comparison would be August to August. But even that doesn’t take into account the ethnic cleansing and refugees that have fled the country as madcap points out.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:01 pmWhere are the stats showing the violence levels? Where is this information. The stats independant researchers have so far gathered don’t reflect any dramatic slow down. Also, any down turn in deaths don’t necessarily mean there is stability growing. I would like to see what the baseline is for stability.
To me, it would be the basic services have been improved/restored. Electricity, Sanitary systems, running water, garbage collection, police force retention and the like are the barameters that will more accurately show success/failure.
Where are those numbers?
August 28th, 2007 at 12:07 pmSo, how does one get to meet your Crom?
Comment by James Saviile Row
You must have lived a fearless life, died in battle and know the riddle of steel. {geek alarm}
August 28th, 2007 at 12:08 pmSo let me get this straight: The wonderful September report on the state of affairs in Iraq will be the intelligence reports, softened by Petraus and then redacted by the Whitehouse before being rewritten by Bush ?
No bias here at all. Right ?
August 28th, 2007 at 12:08 pmW is running out of sand to stick his head into.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:11 pmYou must have lived a fearless life, died in battle and know the riddle of steel. {geek alarm}
Comment by dlet — August 28, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
Excellent.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:11 pmHil made a deal with alkaida!!!!!
Swifty!!!
August 28th, 2007 at 12:11 pmElectricity, Sanitary systems, running water, garbage collection, police force retention and the like are the barameters that will more accurately show success/failure.
Where are those numbers?
Comment by hellinabucket — August 28, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
Good point. Somehow I doubt the Petraeus report will mention the cholera outbreak in northern Iraq.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:12 pmPetraeus cannot provide statistics to back up his claim about civilian deaths being down because those statistics have been “chimperized” and are therefore top secret. Bush sat down on the printed statistics and farted on them. Fox News therefore said we can trust those statistics completely.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:12 pmwhat’s happening then, tobey?
i thought the big day was sep 11…
…
Comment by katy — August 28, 2007 @ 11:08 am
—————–
Tobs will hopefully get his reverse lobotomy. His brain-damage is affecting not only him, but those around him as well.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:14 pmTime for multiple indictments.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:14 pmHil is in cohoots with alkaida!
She told them that she would be soft on Homeland security!!!
August 28th, 2007 at 12:15 pmHil is a traitor to The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Swifty!!!!!!!!
August 28th, 2007 at 12:15 pmMultiple war criminals are running (ruining) our nation.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:18 pmComment by dlet — August 28, 2007 @ 12:08pm
This discourse is as tired as the over-worn streets of Baghdad. The General was ___TOLD TO___ soften the report. Pure and simple.
I do not know what other codices of philososphy we can derive from stories relating to the 43rd white house’s abuse of executive power.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:36 pm“Senate OKs Bush choice to head troops in Iraq
81-0 vote for Petraeus is in contrast to criticism of Bush plan
WASHINGTON - The Senate on Friday voted unanimously to confirm the nomination of Army Lt. Gen. David Petraeus to command U.S. troops in Iraq at a time when President Bush is building up American forces there.
This is just another example of Democrats voting to send a soldier to do a job and then withdrawing their support as soon as they get there. You think any of the Democrats that voted for Petraeus will be held accountable for sending a “Bush lap dog” to Iraq. I think not.
Link to the vote.
http://www.senate.gov/ legislative/ LIS/ roll_call_lists/ roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00033
I couldn’t have said it better myself…
http://groups.msn.com/ bigdaddyscafe/ general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=145646&LastModified=4675636720974682255
August 28th, 2007 at 12:59 pmComment by O. Bigfoot — August 28, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
Awesome job of research!
You mean…the same way the FISA law was rammed through Congress by the use of the tool of fear?
With due respect to Gen. P, he is not calling the shots. There’s a direct line from 1600 in to his ear.
“We must denounce the Democrats for trying to run the war that only we have the right to run from the south lawn”.
August 28th, 2007 at 1:05 pm“This is just another example of Democrats voting to send a soldier to do a job and then withdrawing their support as soon as they get there.”
So they “withdrawl their support” after they give them the benefit of the doubt, but then they are observed in place as doing a terrible job except as crony for the President?
And???
Oh, I get it. The Democrats “Don’t support the troops”. That’s original… a stretch… and still wrong.
August 28th, 2007 at 1:16 pmCongress should make Petraeus testify under oath in declaring sectarian violence is down and then, when he can’t come up with statistics to back that up, nail him for perjery.
August 28th, 2007 at 1:21 pm“Congress should make Petraeus testify under oath in declaring sectarian violence is down and then, when he can’t come up with statistics to back that up, nail him for perjery.
Comment by rdenbo — August 28, 2007 @ 1:21 pm”
No. Congress should get the hell out of the way and let General Petraeus do the job they sent him over there to do.
August 28th, 2007 at 2:07 pmF**K General Betrayus…he is 100% political hack and bush crony. His word ain’t worth used toilet paper.
August 28th, 2007 at 2:42 pm.
‘There ya go, witness #4: “lies lies liesâ€; opined upon before the report is even issued. Dead in the water before the first sentence was written.’
Uh huh; why would anyone have a complete lack of faith in the report, which for months the administration has touted will be written by Petreaus ALONE? Especially when you consider that in advance of the report, it was revealed last week that it will be written by senior adminstrative staff in THE WHITE HOUSE, and not by Petreaus; and let’s not forget who was in charge of dispensing millions of weapons to the fledgling Iraqi police and armed forces, when those same weapons mysteriously ‘disappeared,’ most likely into the hands of the insurgents.
You guessed it; General Petreaus.
And you honestly can’t understand why people are sceptical of this specious bullshit?
Wake up.
August 28th, 2007 at 3:38 pm“Senate OKs Bush choice to head troops in Iraq
81-0 vote for Petraeus is in contrast to criticism of Bush plan
Comment by O. Bigfoot #84
That’s right B(ush’s) Big Mouth(ful)…
…your criminal gods Bushiva and L’il Dick…
…were given ALL the rope they needed…
…with which to hang themselves…
…nobody’s buying your bullsh*t…
…’cuz had the Dems blocked Betraeus’ nomination…
…your talking point would’ve been…
…”Bushiva denied tools he needs to win the war”…
…now go finish raping your family members…
…in your basement sex torture chamber…
August 28th, 2007 at 4:36 pm> 81-0 vote for Petraeus is in contrast to criticism of Bush plan
Dude Bigtwat spend some time teaching that ant colony you call a family how to change a tire or something else that has some practical use.
Using that limp pr1ck you call an intellect trying to make irrelevant points is taking away from valuable time you could be spending teaching your children to blindly follow thier leaders no matter how many lies they tell…
Does ANYONE believe that if the senators didnt vote for Petraeus that bush would go “oh gosh, well now I guess I better nominate someone whose fair and impartial this time….”? No he wouldnt.. he would nominate another “tow the line” nut who, like Petrius, won’t utter a single word of disagreement with the administration. Bush would just accuse the senators of obstructing the war by not giving him the officers he needs to do the job, and then nominate nut #36.
Bush listens to his generals all right….if they don’t say what he wants to hear, he replaces them…..then listens to the new ones..wash rinse repeat.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:27 amStarted with Shinseki (??) and continuted from there. When Petri makes on statement where he shows some independence (i.e. disagreement with his masters) then I’ll start beleiving him…