Comments on: Spitzer threatens to sue federal govt over SCHIP. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:13:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4046281 Lora Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:13:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4046281 Tauscher herself only spoke to the US military (getting their “talking points) and spent only 30 hours in Iraq. Comment by fasdfasd — August 29, 2007 @ 3:21 pm Which is still three times longer than Vitter, etc. spent there. And what do your three rants have to do with this thread on child health care, anyway? Typical case of neo-CON lack of reading comprehension, I suppose. Tauscher herself only spoke to the US military (getting their “talking points) and spent only 30 hours in Iraq.
Comment by fasdfasd — August 29, 2007 @ 3:21 pm

Which is still three times longer than Vitter, etc. spent there. And what do your three rants have to do with this thread on child health care, anyway? Typical case of neo-CON lack of reading comprehension, I suppose.

]]> By: fasdfasd http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4045690 fasdfasd Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:21:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4045690 Tauscher proves that ALL progressives are stupid sheeple who are narrow-minded followers who refuse to independently think for themselves. This disease of progs is easily seen in their fanatically automated reactions regarding Tauscher's questionable intrepretation of Iraq's situation. Whenever Demoncrats like O'Hanlon or Levin or Baird return and tell the truth--to their own detriment as they're hated in their own party--progs react with sheeple-like ideology, dismissing the aforementioned as Bush stooges or liars. However, as soon as a slu* like Tauscher returns and massages the progs' preconceived belief of how Iraq's going (it's a "disaster!"), then they all hypocritically laud her and kiss her a$$. This mental laziness among progs is really a damning indictment of their intellectual prowess. Progs are also charlatans for not taking Tauscher to task for the same reasons they disbelieved Vitter and Corker: Tauscher herself only spoke to the US military (getting their "talking points) and spent only 30 hours in Iraq. Tauscher proves that ALL progressives are stupid sheeple who are narrow-minded followers who refuse to independently think for themselves. This disease of progs is easily seen in their fanatically automated reactions regarding Tauscher’s questionable intrepretation of Iraq’s situation. Whenever Demoncrats like O’Hanlon or Levin or Baird return and tell the truth–to their own detriment as they’re hated in their own party–progs react with sheeple-like ideology, dismissing the aforementioned as Bush stooges or liars. However, as soon as a slu* like Tauscher returns and massages the progs’ preconceived belief of how Iraq’s going (it’s a “disaster!”), then they all hypocritically laud her and kiss her a$$. This mental laziness among progs is really a damning indictment of their intellectual prowess. Progs are also charlatans for not taking Tauscher to task for the same reasons they disbelieved Vitter and Corker: Tauscher herself only spoke to the US military (getting their “talking points) and spent only 30 hours in Iraq.

]]> By: fasdfasd http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4045687 fasdfasd Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:20:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4045687 However, as soon as a slu* like Tauscher returns and massages the progs' preconceived belief of how Iraq's going (it's a "disaster!"), then they all hypocritically laud her and kiss her a$$. This mental laziness among progs is really a damning indictment of their intellectual prowess. Progs are also charlatans for not taking Tauscher to task for the same reasons they disbelieved Vitter and Corker: Tauscher herself only spoke to the US military (getting their "talking points) and spent only 30 hours in Iraq. However, as soon as a slu* like Tauscher returns and massages the progs’ preconceived belief of how Iraq’s going (it’s a “disaster!”), then they all hypocritically laud her and kiss her a$$. This mental laziness among progs is really a damning indictment of their intellectual prowess. Progs are also charlatans for not taking Tauscher to task for the same reasons they disbelieved Vitter and Corker: Tauscher herself only spoke to the US military (getting their “talking points) and spent only 30 hours in Iraq.

]]> By: fasdfasd http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4045679 fasdfasd Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:19:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4045679 However, as soon as a like Tauscher returns and massages the progs' preconceived belief of how Iraq's going (it's a "disaster!"), then they all hypocritically laud her and kiss her a$$. This mental laziness among progs is really a damning indictment of their intellectual prowess. Progs are also charlatans for not taking Tauscher to task for the same reasons they disbelieved Vitter and Corker: Tauscher herself only spoke to the US military (getting their "talking points) and spent only 30 hours in Iraq. However, as soon as a like Tauscher returns and massages the progs’ preconceived belief of how Iraq’s going (it’s a “disaster!”), then they all hypocritically laud her and kiss her a$$. This mental laziness among progs is really a damning indictment of their intellectual prowess. Progs are also charlatans for not taking Tauscher to task for the same reasons they disbelieved Vitter and Corker: Tauscher herself only spoke to the US military (getting their “talking points) and spent only 30 hours in Iraq.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4044436 Lora Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:41:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4044436 Each state may have slightly different criteria for measuring who gets what state insurance, but the reality is that NO child is turned away from health care in the United States, whether in some sort of government program or not. Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 28, 2007 @ 11:53 am Any proof that NO child is turned away from health care in the US, Big Foot in the Mouth? There is no shortage of articles documenting cases that say otherwise. Each state may have slightly different criteria for measuring who gets what state insurance, but the reality is that NO child is turned away from health care in the United States, whether in some sort of government program or not.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 28, 2007 @ 11:53 am

Any proof that NO child is turned away from health care in the US, Big Foot in the Mouth? There is no shortage of articles documenting cases that say otherwise.

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4043446 WaltTheMan Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:16:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4043446 Comment by bh3392 — August 28, 2007 @ 1:17 pm It is all you fault, bh3392, it all started when you chose you parents (bad choice) who in turn chose the wrong parents (Your grand parents) who in turn again chose the wrong parents (Your great grand parents)... ab infintinitum. The only way to correct this is to go back in time and encourage your forebears to lie cheat and steal in order to better your lot. Comment by bh3392 — August 28, 2007 @ 1:17 pm

It is all you fault, bh3392, it all started when you chose you parents (bad choice) who in turn chose the wrong parents (Your grand parents) who in turn again chose the wrong parents (Your great grand parents)… ab infintinitum. The only way to correct this is to go back in time and encourage your forebears to lie cheat and steal in order to better your lot.

]]> By: bh3392 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4042151 bh3392 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:17:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4042151 #27 - However, there is no real issue here. Each state may have slightly different criteria for measuring who gets what state insurance, but the reality is that NO child is turned away from health care in the United States, whether in some sort of government program or not. No issue? Then please help direct me to find where a middle income family in NJ can get free healthcare?The cheapest I can find for my family is $800/month and that's not possible on our income. #27 – However, there is no real issue here. Each state may have slightly different criteria for measuring who gets what state insurance, but the reality is that NO child is turned away from health care in the United States, whether in some sort of government program or not.

No issue? Then please help direct me to find where a middle income family in NJ can get free healthcare?The cheapest I can find for my family is $800/month and that’s not possible on our income.

]]> By: AngryOne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4041897 AngryOne Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:05:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4041897 In Washington last week, the White House renewed George W. Bush's war against children's health care that dates back to his days as Governor of Texas. Just two weeks after the House and Senate each approved major expansions of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP), the Bush administration announced draconian new eligibility rules that would trim thousands of low income children from the rolls. But unlike his Texas two-step when he claimed credit for a program he fought tooth and nail, this time George W. Bush isn't running for anything. For the details, see: <b><a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000731.htm" rel="nofollow">"Bush Repeats His Texas War on Children's Health Insurance."</a></b> In Washington last week, the White House renewed George W. Bush’s war against children’s health care that dates back to his days as Governor of Texas. Just two weeks after the House and Senate each approved major expansions of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP), the Bush administration announced draconian new eligibility rules that would trim thousands of low income children from the rolls. But unlike his Texas two-step when he claimed credit for a program he fought tooth and nail, this time George W. Bush isn’t running for anything.

For the details, see:
“Bush Repeats His Texas War on Children’s Health Insurance.”

]]> By: O. Bigfoot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4041856 O. Bigfoot Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:53:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4041856 "The real shame here is there’s only 23 comments. Am I the only person on here whose children don’t have coverage? Keep heckling back and forth at each other. It’s doing so much for the cause. Comment by bh3392 — August 28, 2007 @ 11:35 am" Only 23 comments because this is such a hollow issue. It sounds good for politicians to "do something for the children", and then make the issue a political hot-button to use in labeling each other as either "for the kids" or "child haters." However, there is no real issue here. Each state may have slightly different criteria for measuring who gets what state insurance, but the reality is that NO child is turned away from health care in the United States, whether in some sort of government program or not. My wife and I have 6 kids between us, so I know of what I speak. “The real shame here is there’s only 23 comments. Am I the only person on here whose children don’t have coverage? Keep heckling back and forth at each other. It’s doing so much for the cause.

Comment by bh3392 — August 28, 2007 @ 11:35 am”

Only 23 comments because this is such a hollow issue. It sounds good for politicians to “do something for the children”, and then make the issue a political hot-button to use in labeling each other as either “for the kids” or “child haters.”

However, there is no real issue here. Each state may have slightly different criteria for measuring who gets what state insurance, but the reality is that NO child is turned away from health care in the United States, whether in some sort of government program or not.

My wife and I have 6 kids between us, so I know of what I speak.

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4041839 ForTruth Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:48:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4041839 Healthcare should be a non-issue for everyone. Meaning its provided, end of story. Healthcare should be a non-issue for everyone. Meaning its provided, end of story.

]]> By: bh3392 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4041798 bh3392 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:35:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4041798 The real shame here is there's only 23 comments. Am I the only person on here whose children don't have coverage? Keep heckling back and forth at each other. It's doing so much for the cause. The real shame here is there’s only 23 comments. Am I the only person on here whose children don’t have coverage? Keep heckling back and forth at each other. It’s doing so much for the cause.

]]> By: O. Bigfoot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4041792 O. Bigfoot Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:34:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4041792 "By your reasoning, parents who can afford private school should not expect the government to pay for their children’s education. Comment by TheToonguy — August 28, 2007 @ 10:37 am" Perhaps they shouldn't expect the "government" to pay for their education. However, I have an assessment on my property taxes that pays toward both the public schools and the college in my area. I don't have any kids going to college yet, and if I did, they would have to pay tuition to go there. You see, what some folks forget is that the "government" doesn't pay for anything. They don't have any of their own money. The citizens of the United States pay for everything through taxes. “By your reasoning, parents who can afford private school should not expect the government to pay for their children’s education.

Comment by TheToonguy — August 28, 2007 @ 10:37 am”

Perhaps they shouldn’t expect the “government” to pay for their education.

However, I have an assessment on my property taxes that pays toward both the public schools and the college in my area. I don’t have any kids going to college yet, and if I did, they would have to pay tuition to go there.

You see, what some folks forget is that the “government” doesn’t pay for anything. They don’t have any of their own money. The citizens of the United States pay for everything through taxes.

]]> By: blogbob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4041746 blogbob Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:18:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4041746 Compassionate Conservatism = No Child Left Alive Compassionate Conservatism = No Child Left Alive

]]> By: NoOneYouKnow http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4041732 NoOneYouKnow Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:11:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4041732 Why shouldn't kids have free health care? We give them a free education, don't we? Should we take that away too? Congress's approval ratings aren't in the dumper because they're being partisan -- they're bad because the Dems aren't being partisan enough; they're not doing what the public wants them to do, which is to hunt down and get rid of Bushco. I wonder if that's going to be left to the public as well. Why shouldn’t kids have free health care? We give them a free education, don’t we? Should we take that away too?
Congress’s approval ratings aren’t in the dumper because they’re being partisan — they’re bad because the Dems aren’t being partisan enough; they’re not doing what the public wants them to do, which is to hunt down and get rid of Bushco. I wonder if that’s going to be left to the public as well.

]]> By: veritas http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4041720 veritas Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:07:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4041720 Fire away, spitzer! Fire away, spitzer!

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4041704 toasterhead Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:59:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4041704 <i>If a family of 4 earns 80 grand a year, and chooses to not have health insurance for their kids, that is a personal decision, not the governments problem. Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 28, 2007 @ 10:30 am</i> What if it's not their decision? If both parents are working for Wal-Mart or some other corporation that doesn't offer health insurance to employees, and they have to choose between spending money on private health insurance, food, or heating oil each month, then it's not really their decision not to have health insurance, is it? If a family of 4 earns 80 grand a year, and chooses to not have health insurance for their kids, that is a personal decision, not the governments problem.

Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 28, 2007 @ 10:30 am

What if it’s not their decision? If both parents are working for Wal-Mart or some other corporation that doesn’t offer health insurance to employees, and they have to choose between spending money on private health insurance, food, or heating oil each month, then it’s not really their decision not to have health insurance, is it?

]]> By: dlet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4041701 dlet Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:57:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4041701 Comment by Tobey Tall I say let them rot. Mercenaries and war profiteers...all of them. They can pay for their medical bills from their hazard pay. Comment by Tobey Tall

I say let them rot. Mercenaries and war profiteers…all of them. They can pay for their medical bills from their hazard pay.

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4041686 Tobey Tall Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:51:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4041686 <b>With large numbers of wounded and sick civilian contractors severely straining the U.S. military's hospitals and clinics across Iraq, the U.S. military is considering authorizing the creation of a parallel privately-run medical care system for the 129,000 contractors on the Pentagon payroll in Iraq.</b> With large numbers of wounded and sick civilian contractors severely straining the U.S. military’s hospitals and clinics across Iraq, the U.S. military is considering authorizing the creation of a parallel privately-run medical care system for the 129,000 contractors on the Pentagon payroll in Iraq.

]]> By: WaltinTexas http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4041663 WaltinTexas Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:41:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4041663 Simple explanation- not enough corporate welfare in the program for BushCo friends. Simple explanation- not enough corporate welfare in the program for BushCo friends.

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/comment-page-1/#comment-4041661 Tobey Tall Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:40:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/28/spitzer-threatens-to-sue-federal-govt-over-schip/#comment-4041661 <b>SELFISHNESS as a society is the problem</b> SELFISHNESS as a society is the problem

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