55 percent:
By on Aug 29th, 2007 at 10:48 am
55 percent:
Number of Idaho voters who want Sen. Larry Craig (R-ID) to resign, according to a new poll taken yesterday. Just 34 percent approve of the job Craig is doing as senator.
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The other 45% have the awareness of a spud.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:53 amBWAHAHAHA! The reddest of the red states, now has a red face over their senior Senator and his bathroom follies.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:53 amPoor Zooey.
something about touch screen machines in voting booths…
August 29th, 2007 at 10:54 amnever mind..
Yep. I called him and told him should resign. Not because he’s apparently gay, but because he’s a f*cking hypocrite.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:55 am99.9 percent: Number of Americans who want Thinkprogress.org to resign from the World Wide Web. The other .01 percent, are the loony morons who post here.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:57 amIsnt it possible to approve of the job that a senator is doing, and still want him to resign?
I only ask this because, a lot of people thought President Clinton was doing a good job, but still thought he should have resigned after disgracing the office with his extramarital affair with an intern.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:57 amWow–that means 54.9999999% of the Republicans and both the Democrats in Idaho want him out!
August 29th, 2007 at 10:57 amComment by Statistico — August 29, 2007 @ 10:57 am
#
And yet, you just posted here? Have fun on your way out.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:58 amComment by Zooey — August 29, 2007 @ 10:55 am
As long as he is punching in the views of those who put him in office, why should he resign over a private matter? It’s not like he did this on government property (e.g., the Senate, Oval Office, etc.).
August 29th, 2007 at 10:59 am#5: interesting statistic, from a TP poster. Haha.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:59 amIdahoans are so red that if Sen. Craig(R-estroom) had actually sucked off the cop, that 55% would have only inched up to 57%.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:59 amComment by Chris L — August 29, 2007 @ 10:58 am
I will.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:59 amWhats the percentage of voters that approve of the job he’s doing as a closeted homosexual?
August 29th, 2007 at 10:59 amWow
That means 45 percent dig his “wide stance”
jack jett
August 29th, 2007 at 11:00 amThe other .01 percent, are the loony morons who post here.
Comment by Statistico — August 29, 2007 @ 10:57 am
Welcome to your own .01 percent.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:02 amHe swore in court that he was guilty, in front of a judge. Now he claims he wasn’t guilty?
So he is now claiming he perjured himself in front of a judge?
Either he is guilty of the charges or he is guilty of perjury. Can’t have it both ways.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:02 am“I’m not gay, I’m just a perjurer.”
I mean, I assume he was under oath when the judge handed down the sentence. So, now he’s saying he lied under oath when he said he was guilty? That will fly.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:04 amAs long as he is punching in the views of those who put him in office, why should he resign over a private matter? It’s not like he did this on government property (e.g., the Senate, Oval Office, etc.).
Comment by Statistico — August 29, 2007 @ 10:59 am
Obviously, 55% of those same voters now want him gone, dingleberry.
Now the criteria is the nasty has to take place on government property? Nitwit.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:04 amThe other .01 percent, are the loony morons who post here.
Comment by Statistico
You just called yourself a loony moron, since you also posted here.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:04 amFunny stuff always coming from the braindead neocon trolls.
Senator Larry Craig: “I am not Gay” ?
29th of August 2007
by Jay Randal
Senator Larry Craig’s behavior in public restrooms is perversion, NOT the antics of average normal Gay male, so while he claims to be innocent of soliciting sex in toilet stalls he infers homosexuals are degenerates?
Larry is being disingenuous about his tawdry events, in bathrooms, seeking quick sex with unknown males who share his lust and doing the nasty in public potty.
He does not seek any loving relationship with another male, nor does he seek one-night-stand in hotel rooms either, so Sen. Larry Craig is a pervert and NOT Gay.
“I am not Gay” he proclaims to the press, and he said the truth about that fact, but he is a liar for denying seeking trashy sex from other perverted guys in johns.
Americans are becoming fed-up with hypocrisy in DC, by Republicans in House and Senate, so Larry Craig must tender his resignation from the Congress ASAP and never run again for political office for rest of his life!
(Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Georgia, USA.)
August 29th, 2007 at 11:05 amIf Senator Craig is so stupid as to plead guilty to a crime without legal representation and which he now claims he never committed, then he is simply too stupid to be writing bills and voting on our nation’s laws anyway.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:05 amEither he is guilty of the charges or he is guilty of perjury. Can’t have it both ways.
Comment by Wayne — August 29, 2007 @ 11:02 am
No judge would have permitted Craig to plead guilty if he seemed unsure of doing so.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:05 amComment by Chris — August 29, 2007 @ 10:57 am
I think it is entirely possible to approve of the job he is doing while simultaneously wanting him to resign for personal reasons.
While I approve of nothing this right winger has to offer, I personally hope he doesn’t resign. I’d like to see the media drag this out for as long as possible. Make America see the Republicans for the hypocrites they are.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:05 amComment by dim wit — August 29, 2007 @ 11:05 am
They can be hypocrites in during personal time as they choose. The point is that they do their job in effectively by entering the views of the people they represent. Assume the Senator outed himself and suddenly began voting for gay rights. Would Idahoans have a legit reason to be taken aback? Perhaps, because they didn’t install their Senator to vote for gay rights.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:12 amPerhaps, because they didn’t install their Senator to vote for gay rights.
Comment by Statistico — August 29, 2007 @ 11:12 am
Sen Craig doesn’t vote for gay rights — never has.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:16 amGlad to see that there at least more than a few discerning, intelligent, perceptive folks in Idaho who aren’t buying this guy’s ridiculous protestations. Craig is OBVIOUSLY gay (AND slimey).
As for the other 45% who aren’t calling for his resignation: well, not much can be said in their defense.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:18 amThe funny thing is, it’s only Republicans and the Hot Air/Pajamas Media crowd who want him to resign. It’s only Republicans in the Senate who want an investigation. Time to purge gays from the party.
Myself, I’m enjoying the story and I hope he’s around through 2008. I’m all about cheap entertainment.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:20 amComment by Zooey — August 29, 2007 @ 11:04 am
That extra 6% (the majority percentage) could have been swayed by the excessive, biased media coverage. It happens.
It all depends on the crime. If some fat lady punched a capital police office while a member of congress, she should probably lose her job. If a Senator accidently stepped on some undercover police officer’s foot in a private airport, it’s absolutely excusable.
What if the Senator really is not guilty and decided to plead an atempt to quickly throw the case to the side, since he knows that Republicans receive unfair press treatment?
August 29th, 2007 at 11:21 amRe: #5 hmmm yes I believe Statistico makes up the .01 he refers to. So, if Craig was not acting lewdly, what was he doing, getting up a prayer meeting in that stall???????
August 29th, 2007 at 11:22 amComment by Zooey — August 29, 2007 @ 11:16 am
I think that was my point, that Idahoans don’t want him voting for gay rights. The scenario was, if he started doing so if he outed himself, against the will of the voter. That’s when they’d have a legitimate reason to oust him — his political record, not a misdeameanor hardly worth mentioning.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:24 amIf a Senator accidently stepped on some undercover police officer’s foot in a private airport, it’s absolutely excusable.
“Accidentally” rubbing on some undercover police officer’s foot in a bathroom stall 3 times, not so much.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:24 amwhat was he doing, getting up a prayer meeting in that stall???????
Comment by Jack — August 29, 2007 @ 11:22 am
Apparently sliding your hand, palm up across the bottom of the divider is asking for a donation..?
August 29th, 2007 at 11:24 amApparently sliding your hand, palm up across the bottom of the divider is asking for a donation..?
Comment by RUCerious — August 29, 2007
lol!
I haven’t got a square to spare…..
August 29th, 2007 at 11:26 amah, yes, I forgot that portion of the service.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:26 amWhat if the Senator really is not guilty and decided to plead an atempt to quickly throw the case to the side, since he knows that Republicans receive unfair press treatment?
Comment by Statistico — August 29, 2007 @ 11:21 am
Bullshit. Craig is receiving “unfair” treatment from Fox, since they’re barely reporting this story.
AND if Craig pled guilty for that reason, he’s too stupid to breathe.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:28 amThat’s when they’d have a legitimate reason to oust him — his political record, not a misdeameanor hardly worth mentioning.
Comment by Statistico — August 29, 2007 @ 11:24 am
Uh huh. What if Hillary Clinton were caught in a similar situation?
August 29th, 2007 at 11:29 amComment by troqua — August 29, 2007 @ 11:24 am
You shouldn’t slander people, troqua. Good dog.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:29 amComment by Zooey — August 29, 2007 @ 11:29 am
Nothing should happen to her, as long as she stays off government property. She’d have her gay-rights groups and the ACLU covering her, regardless.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:31 amYou shouldn’t slander people, troqua. Good dog.
Comment by Statistico — August 29, 2007
What slander is that? Are you calling the police officer a liar?
August 29th, 2007 at 11:32 amComment by Statistico — August 29, 2007 @ 11:12 am
I see your point, but you’re asking the wrong person here. Craig doesn’t represent me – I don’t live in Idaho and I support gay rights, so I would never have voted for him anyway.
However, I can see how his constituents would be upset that Craig’s personal actions are not consistent with his proclaimed morality.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:32 amComment by Statistico — August 29, 2007 @ 11:31 am
Key word being “should.”
August 29th, 2007 at 11:32 amGOP=GAY OLD PARTY, GRAND OLD PERVERTS!
August 29th, 2007 at 11:48 amWhat’s behind the right’s different response to David Vitter’s call girls and Larry Craig’s boy trouble? In a nutshell, the boys.
For the details, see:
August 29th, 2007 at 11:50 am“Behind the Right’s Double Standard on Craig and Vitter.”
Oh please can he not ask jebus for forgiveness and go to rehab for a few weeks and be back for the 2008 elections? All that pink~rainbowing could turn REDaho into BLUEaho.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:57 amI am surprised as many folks want him to go. He is pushing the AGJOBS bill alongside Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer of California. With the probable deals made for Diane’s FISA vote, it probably has a good chance of passing.
Agriculture is extremely important to the economy of the State of Idaho. The AGJOBS bill Craig has been working hard to pass is focal to that strategy and many in the afflicted Senator’s state know it.
Family values on the other hand, still has the jury out.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:11 pmYep. I called him and told him should resign. Not because he’s apparently gay, but because he’s a f*cking hypocrite.
Comment by Zooey
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No law broken by being a hypocrite.
Clinton not a hypocrite?
August 29th, 2007 at 12:19 pmTed Kennedy not a hypocrite?
Sen KKK Byrd not a hypocrite?
Clinton vowed to love and cherish the Hillary.
I guess he had an additional clause in his vow
– To love and cherish Monica to?
no hypocrisy here heh Zo :)
kinda like your ex when you ask him to resign?
August 29th, 2007 at 12:23 pmI ditto Jay Randal.
Craig is a pervert. Period. All perverts are hypocrites, whether they’re gay or not.
Why would any citizen population want a pervert as their representative? I mean, doesn’t Idaho at least a handful of other potential candidates for the job?
Meantime, if this many people are this anxious to get rid of him, how is it that we’ve been stuck with dick bush for 7 years?
Where’s the outrage there? Even a gang of perverts like Craig couldn’t have created the kind of damage those guys have.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:33 pmWhy would any citizen population want a pervert as their representative?
Hell no!
August 29th, 2007 at 12:36 pmClinton not a hypocrite?
Ted Kennedy not a hypocrite?
Sen KKK Byrd not a hypocrite?
Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 12:19 pm
I love it how, whenever the wingnuts can’t defend their own, they have to point their fingers at old “scandals” on the other side.
First, Bill Clinton. His sexual extracurricular activities were reprehensible, but hypocrisy doesn’t come to mind. It would, however, if Bill had spent his career condemning others for like offenses, but he hasn’t.
Second, Ted Kennedy. Ditto above. Furthermore, the Massachusetts voters have returned him to office time and time again since Chappaquiddick, so it’s safe to assume he has their support. If Craig has the support of Idaho voters, I’d say he should stay, too.
Third, Robert Byrd. Still getting bashed for his KKK activities. Having KKK membership in your background (plus holding office in that organization!) should rightly set off warning bells in any reasonable person. However, Byrd’s KKK activities were over six decades ago, and he has renounced the Klan and all it stands for many times since. This could more accurately be called a “change of heart” than hypocrisy. Hypocrisy would be if he condemned the Klan in public but still attended cross burnings under the anonymity of a white pointy hood.
The problem is, Craig got caught in the very type of behavior he condemns with his public face. This IS hypocrisy, no matter how you spin it. As to whether he stays or goes — that should be up to the Idaho voters. Not us, not the press, not the pundits. And it looks like Idahoans aren’t happy.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:43 pmWhy would any citizen population want a pervert as their representative?
Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
See: Comment by James Saville Row — August 29, 2007 @ 12:11 pm
August 29th, 2007 at 12:45 pmComment by missmolly — August 29, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
“Old” doesn’t make it irrelevant, especially if they’re still active in Congress. It means they’ve received a free pass.
Again, breaking any law is hypocrisy, and Kennedy and Byrd, for example, both were given the opportunity to redeem themselves. Mr. Craig should not be held to a higher standard than those who’ve received that second shot.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:54 pmMr. Craig should not be held to a higher standard than those who’ve received that second shot.
Comment by Statistico — August 29, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
I agree. And if the Idaho voters want to give Craig that second shot, so be it. But that’s for them to decide. Since the polling is running 55% against Craig, he’s got a difficult sales job ahead of him.
Oh — I need to correct your definition of hypocrisy. “Breaking any law” does not necessarily make one a hypocrite (although it could very well make one a convicted criminal, depending on the severity of the offense). If it did, we would all be hypocrites for driving 5 miles over the speed limit. Hypocrisy is claiming to hold a set of values that you don’t actually subscribe to, or condemning others for offenses you yourself are guilty of.
For example — both Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton commit adultery around the same time. Gingrich calls loudly for Clinton’s ouster over the offense. Clinton says nothing about Gingrich. Who’s the hypocrite here?
August 29th, 2007 at 1:21 pmCraig needs to be banished and the rest of the queers need to be rooted out and destroyed like the cancer that they are. These deviates are infiltrating every aspect of our society with their perverted choice of life styles.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:40 pmBubba Clinton says (vows) publicly in front of wedding party guests,
” I promise to love and honor, cherish and value Hillary”.
Then commits adultery on multiple ocassions to show how much he “values” Hillary his loving and commited wifey poo.
Family “values” WTF?
August 29th, 2007 at 2:08 pmBubba Clinton says (vows) publicly in front of wedding party guests,
” I promise to love and honor, cherish and value Hillary”.
Then commits adultery on multiple ocassions to show how much he “values” Hillary his loving and commited wifey poo.
Family “values” WTF?
Hypocrisy maybe?
August 29th, 2007 at 2:08 pmMissmolly typical libtardal thinking on hypocrisy. Kinda crazy don’t u think?
August 29th, 2007 at 2:10 pm99.9 percent: Number of Americans who want Thinkprogress.org to resign from the World Wide Web. The other .01 percent, are the loony morons who post here.
Comment by Statistico — August 29, 2007 @ 10:57 am
That gives us 99.91%. You’re missing a .09%.
Also, some of us just read Think Progress instead of posting here (this is my first post on TP; I just had to comment on this mathematical ineptitude). Perhaps those of us who just read are the “rest of” the .09%.
If you’re going to try to insult us, please be polite enough to get your arithmetic straight, lest you come off merely as an irksome ingrate.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:13 pmMissmolly typical libtardal thinking on hypocrisy. Kinda crazy don’t u think?
Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 2:10 pm
C’mon, Bob — you can do better than this ad hominem response. Please explain why dictionary definitions constitute “libtardal” thinking. For bonus points, explain why my post is “crazy”.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:23 pmCraig a hypocrite? The worst kind. A disgusting pervert hiding behind being a religious conservative. Now that’s hypocrisy!!
August 29th, 2007 at 2:30 pmCraig’s resignation doesn’t necessarily have to be tender. Just resign.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:33 pmClinton did it. Or something close enough, right?
August 29th, 2007 at 2:34 pmNo law broken by being a hypocrite.
Comment by Bob
Check it, he was busted in a police “sting” to catch gay men “hooking-up” in a public bathroom which had been listed on a gay website.
He broke the law.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:36 pmRepublicans have used Family Values as a wedge issue to get elected. They have lied repeatedly, using scare tactics, and appealing to the uneducated rednecks that inhabit much of rural America. You won’t find many gay haters in large metro areas, they deal with gay people on a daily basis and find that the sterotypical version preached by the GOP laughable. The GOP should stop trying to dictate morality when their party has as many gays, adulters, liars (Bush & Cheney for staters), thiefs, and perverts. My message to the GOP, “keep your nose out of my bedroom and my personal life”. The GOP is finding out you reap what you sew!
August 29th, 2007 at 3:32 pmClinton a hypocrite? The worst kind. A disgusting pervert hiding behind being a religious liberal. Now that’s hypocrisy!!
August 29th, 2007 at 3:32 pm—————————————————————
Clinton carries a bible when he goes to church. Commits adultery nothing hypocritcal about that huh:)
Check it, he was busted in a police “sting†to catch gay men “hooking-up†in a public bathroom which had been listed on a gay website.
He broke the law.
Comment by RepublicansAreFascists
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Toe tapping is illegal? which law says you cannot tap toes?
August 29th, 2007 at 3:34 pmWell in modern-day Bushthink, that means that 45% of Idahoes support and approve of his toetapping trolling for blowjobs.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:43 pmAt least Clinton wasn’t trolling around public restrooms for handjobs. I mean you don’t get any nastier or sleazier than that.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:44 pmClinton carries a bible when he goes to church. Commits adultery nothing hypocritcal about that huh:)
Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
Churches aren’t museums for saints, they’re hospitals for sinners. Anybody who wants to pray, worship, and get something out of the sermon is welcome (in most churches, anyway).
If Clinton went to church to get in the pulpit, thump his bible, and preach hellfire and brimstone against the evils of adultery while he’s diddling his intern, then yes — he’d be a hypocrite. But there’s nothing hypocritical about a sinner going to attend church — even if he carries a bible.
August 29th, 2007 at 4:41 pmHa ha ha. Get used to it, your Senator is a lying scumbag, and maybe YOU voted for him. No need to say more. Apolgize all you want, we’ve all seen. Typical Republican.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:14 pmStatistico:
Pretty much like all conservatives, your reality is not bogged down by facts. Despite the country being more blue than ever as the crooked and hypercritical republicans drop like flys, all is good in your world. Yup, the world is still flat, women aren’t allowed to vote. and schools are still segregated, things are just peachy in your world. Hang in there, Dude and don’t let world events and reality bog you down on your efforts for maximum ignorance, you are pretty much there. Oh, and be careful not to drop off the edge of earth.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:58 pmBob – At least the Clintons have stuck together and made their marriage work. Remember, judge not lest yee be judged. Before you open your big pie hole, you may want to count on both your fingers and toes the number of marriages and divorces your republican presidential candidates for president have between them. Let’s see, Gulliani’s kids are voting for Obama and hate their father, Fred Thompson married is granddaughter, and the rest are convicted wife beaters…ha! Yea, adultry is much worse thanbeating the wife. You may want to check out the number of divorces and babies in wedlock in red states vs blue states before you totally give away that you have never read a book in your life. Same goes for high school dropouts and juvenile crimes. But go ahead, and keep saying idiotic things don’t let facts drag you down.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:09 pmPoor, poor mis-informed Wingturds…
The police report, transcribed by yours truly.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:45 pm
Pleading guilty in Minnesota is always strongly suggested especially if it is a misdemeaner charge. The way the system works here is that if you don’t, you will need a high priced lawyer and will have
August 30th, 2007 at 11:18 ama case that will drag out for 6 mos to a year with all the bad publicity that goes with it. It is a self serving financial system here.
Every one stands to make money from it. They are always trying to justify their positions so they can keep getting supported by tax dollars. His career stood a better chance of surviving by getting it
over with quickly. The justice system is more interested in destroying peoples lives than actually safeguarding the real judicial system. Now that it is all out there, he has no choice but to resign
so Idaho can move forward. Gay or not is not the issue now….
an ethics investigation should be done to see whether police sitting
in airport bathrooms is actually justified or are they just looking to
increase revenue with fines arrests and fines again.
I bet, at this moment, Bob and Statistico are wedged under a restroom stall together…. enjoying the republican national pastime.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:59 pm